/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>39436674
At this point even when there are no streams on to numberfag over I keep my eye on # anyway. It's got a load of overlap with tons of fanbases and people post /news/ regularly, so I can keep up to date with happenings well in here. This place is easily the more useful thread on the board only for that plus the fact it's slower than global so I don't have to skim through as much shit.

https://twitter.com/ookamimio/status/1605849351011667970
Relay schedule

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>39436774
Recent clip numbers
>>39375965
>>39376005
>>39376092
>>39376124
>>39376169

>>39436803
Ye was right

What is up with the small corpo shills? You guys know small corpos will never be able to perform in a concert venue right?
When Idol, Kawaii or Isegye finally get to step inside a 300-people venue, HoloEN, alongside with JP and ID, will prepare for their debut at Nippon Budokan, a 10k seat arena

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>47,733: Towa (Hololive)
>39,232: Miko (Hololive)
>38,760: Fubuki (Hololive)
>35,708: Koyori (Hololive)
>30,307: Shu (Nijisanji)
>26,762: Luca (Nijisanji)
>26,428: Kanata (Hololive)
>24,300: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,203: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,048: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,561: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,550: VSPO (VSPO)
>13,641: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,627: Nui (Nijisanji)
>13,331: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,207: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,613: Mio (Hololive)
>11,141: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,571: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,187: Met (774 Inc.)
>10,019: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>39436795
So, who's missing?

>>39436831
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Mio, Nijisanji, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Towa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
234x: Hololive
109x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39436803
There are a lot of blatant shills, and they fucking suck at shilling. (Though looking at it it's 1-2 shills and a shitposter or two jumping in alongside them)

>>39436795
>JP only

>>39436828
I'll watch both online it doesn't matter to me

xGrim

Can somebody tell me whether or not those two chuubas on the right actually visited her stream or not?

>>39436849
and that's a good thing

>>39436846
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
233x: Hololive
106x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
36x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru, Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39436828
Hololive and Nijisanji’s main advantage is that they’re JP. That gives them a leg up on that front. Beyond that, they’re really good at doing stupid shit to try to blunt their natural buff.

>>39436849
Good.

Can you guys PLEASE just watch my small corpo oshi, I've been posting on cooldown for 3 hours trying to convert a few numberfags, it'll all have been a waste if you don't check them out

>>39436790
I mentioned way back when that /#/ is basically the crossroads of /vt/ where people from all fandom of vt come to share information and shoot the shit.
Of course then nijiniggers came along and ruined the place because they just couldn't behave themselves

>>39436828
And then nothing will happen afterwards

20K DORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHO'S THE 4VIEW NOW NUMBERFAGGOTS?

>>39436896
Nijisanji is shit, not Hololive

>>39436795
14:00~ Mio
14:20~ Botan
14:40~ Nene

15:00~ Matsuri
15:20~ Choco
15:40~ Sora

16:00~ Polka
16:20~ Ayame
16:40~ Noel

17:00~ Fubuki
17:20~ AZKi
17:40~ Roboco

18:00~ Lui
18:20~ Akirose
18:40~ Koyori

19:00~ Marine
19:20~ Flare
19:40~ Haachama

20:00~ Suisei
20:20~ Iroha
20:40~ Shion

21:00~ Chloe
21:20~ Luna
21:40~ Miko

22:00~ Kanata
22:20~ Pekora
22:40~ Towa...

23:00~ Aqua
23:20~ Watame
23:40~ Mio

I think right now HoloJP and NijiEN have the right amount of chuubas.
NijiJP has too much and HoloEN has too little.
NijiJP should learn from HoloJP while HoloEN should learn from nijiEN, in terms of recruitment numbers.

>>39436828
Small corpos are growing right now because Holo doesn't stream, concerts have nothing to do with it.

>>39436828
I would rather have talents that stream everyday instead of some big concert if it means that they don't stream as often.

>>39436725
EN3 doesn't need to be "better", unless you mean better as in more active and communicative. As long as EN3 exhibit different character from any previous talents (within the limits of Hololive's preferred conduct) they shouldn't be DOA.

>>39436875
I don't think you'll find any NijiJPfags at this hour, anon.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

12/20 DAILY TALLY
41,650: Vox (Nijisanji)
14,904: Enna (Cucksanji)
10,416: Amelia (Hololive)
8,378: Ike (Nijisanji)
8,344: Mumei (Hololive)
6,676: IRyS (Hololive)
5,651: Mumei (Hololive)
5,255: Pomu (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Return Stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,263 (Simulacra)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,166 (1 Million Subscribers Endurance)
15. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 30,277 (Quick talk)
16. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 21,769 (Debut Karaoke)
17. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 17,543 (HANDCAM)
18. Luca (Nijisanji) - 18,712 (Unarchived Karaoke)
19. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,291 (Newly Friend Game w/Marine)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 41,650 (Anniversary Gameshow)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 7
Nijisanji - 13
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Mysta
3x: Gura
2x: IRyS, Meloco
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Fungus, Luca, Baelz, Vox

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
35p: Mysta
19p: Fauna
18p: Gura
11p: Meloco
10p: IRyS
9p: Mumei
8p: Hex, Fungus, Baelz
7p: Vox
5p: Selen, Maria, Luca, Amelia
4p: Mori, Kronii
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver, Millie, Enna
1p: Petra, Shu, Pippa, Pomu

>>39436908
Cope, when will small corpos, or even NijiEN get to perform in front of a live audience?

>>39436832
Mel
Subaru
Lamy
La+
Maybe somebody else, I just took a quick look by memory

>>39436828
indies have done concerts at harevutai and other similar venues.
heck p-maru filled 10k capacity ryougoku kokugikan yes, stuopuri buff was real pre-yab

>>39436920
>NijiEN have the right amount of chuubas.
No, they should've stopped at noctyx, everything past that has been so shit it actually removed value from the nijisanji brand

>>39436901
Dude, you know you suck at shilling/begging, right? Stop it.

>>39436934
So all you want to say is that they're DOA

>>39436925
Kek, while HoloEN are selling out merch without streaming, small corpos have to beg their audience for 3D models. Great work!

holo gold contenders

>22 Lui hostclub, Watame announcement reverse totsu
>26 Holoearth concert
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>23 Kohaku Todo 3D debut
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39436934
They need to be better than the previous gens to attract new viewers and convert old ones

>>39436955
You know that's sarcasm right?

>>39436954
But I like Zaion.

>>39436887
>>39436897
If you want this thread to stay focused on Hololive, maybe stop encouraging moves that encourage EN’s recline. The shills only shill because there’s a giant hole left where HoloEN used to stream.

>>39436954
Should have debut the xsoleil girls + maria in their own gen

>>39436919
Missing

Gen 0: none
Gen 1: Mel
Gen 2: Subaru
Gen 3: none
Gen 4: none
Gen 5: Lamy
Gen 6: Laplus
Gamers: Fubuki, Korone, Okayu

22K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What's the current IQ of this thread?

>>39436795
where's holostars?

>>39436874
Don't forget to include the reason for that 5k

>>39436998
That's the opposite of what I want though

What's with outfits mismatch here kek

You know, I don't now why people keep discussing about "People don't watch chuuba corpo [X] means they watch chuuba corpo [Y]" and conveniently forget the fact that they can just ... Stop watching VTuber all together
Especially with EN, where people have way more to choose in terms of content
I know I do

>>39437000
>Korone
Of fucking course

>>39437000
Oh, I forgot about gamers, I'm retarded
Fubuki is there tho

>>39436832
Korone, Okayu, Laplus, Mel, Subaru, Lamy

>>39437024
lmao why not raid the gyaru next to him?

Damn there's a JP chuuba streaming Dark and Darker to 2k viewers. Based

>>39437017
Room temperature of your average SEA household

>>39437027
Then please do some of the shilling too so I don’t sperg like a retard and make myself look like an idiot.

>>39437000
>Korone, Okayu
OKAKORO CHRISTMAS SEX
I WILL NOT TAKE MY MEDS

>>39437042
The doggo is sick

>>39436919
>14:20~ Botan
why, this hag can't sing ffs

>>39436943
How do you pack out 10k for a concert in the kokugikan? 360 stage/projection and floor seating where the judges and JSA officials usually sit?

>>39437035
That actually looks like a few christmas parties I went to.

>>39437037
Why are you there though?

>>39437035
towa still wearing the summer casual
at least use the winter appropriate outfit

>>39437000
rushia...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>39437075
botan has one of the best original
https://youtu.be/kBfXjNFo3Mo

>>39437093
Who?

>>39437083
Because I like to make fun of vtuber watchers

>>39437104
Fun fact: the anycolor stock opened at 5510 yen, so if it drops by another 200 it's going to be below its opening price

>>39436803
That anons on this board are so fragmented it’s impossible to know everything about all the vtubers who get talked about /here/. So everyone assumes that anyone who likes another corpo and not theirs is a shill.

>>39437035
>normal L2D
>L2D with hand-drawn santa
>normal 3D
>3D with santa outfits

>>39437104
Yeah nijisanji didn't do as well as expected

Reminder that small corpo shills are scumbags who abandoned their oshi. They are the ADHD faggots who click off of an outfit reveal stream as soon as the head is revealed. You NEVER abandon your oshi and you stick with her through thick and thin. They are traitors.

>>39436977
People care about "type".

>>39437080
same way KAF filled budokan. put the stage one one end and filled the floor
https://youtu.be/NxsqHhzs2S0?t=1970

>>39437150
My former oshi changed her content and got boring

>>39437150
My former oshi abandoned me, so I moved on. Problem?

>>39437083
Why not? I don't actively bring myself to watch content, but I still keep tab on the fanbase, in case anything interesting happening

>>39437000
Fbk is there

>>39437138
Yes, SOVL

>>39437168
But she didn't? The budokan doesn't hit stated capacity in concert configuration.

>>39437187
Yeah I'm blind and missed Fubuki.

All graduations in Nijisanji

JP: 16 out of 132, 2 terminations
KR: 15 out of 27, 1 termination
ID: 1 out of 19
EN: 1 out of 32
VR: 14 out of 59, 2 terminations
IN: 3 out of 3

i didnt know they had two terminations in vr, one called ichigo and another called mimoi

>>39437137
Nah, it's one thing to promote the chubbas you like in a short blurb, it's a whole 'nother thing to agendapost with multiple walls of text.

>>39437150
Nigga my oshi was Mori when Myth first debuted. You’re smoking something far more potent than meth if you think I’m going to stick with someone like that.

>>39436849
Nice

>>39437205
You absolute retard, how could you not tell that was fubuki?

>>39437206
It's better for Niji if the shitters graduate

>>39437231
In all seriousness, it’s more like a wash. They can graduate if they want or don’t, Nijisanji doesn’t care. It’s why they accelerate in the first place.

>>39437075
Anon Pekora is right there and you are complaining about Botan?

>>39437206
The en is a termination, don't let the wording convince you otherwise

>>39437206
The EN one is 100% a termination

Actually hit 1m. So now she has 3 non debut 1m Vods. ASMR is stupid. Also added the one that's probably next to hit 1m since it's been climbing even still.

>>39436849
Like half of the EN branch would be on hiatus when this happen, if not more

>>39437259
You either get better or you don't. That'w why Nijisanji is at the level it's at right now due to meritocracy. There's no "everyone is getting a piece of the pie" bullshit that causes laziness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPzV-3vLRd8
how's this doing for numbers so far?

>>39437075
They’re idols so they have to sing. Or something. Idk

>>39437329
Watch Luxiem please

>>39437075
Botan is not even the worst there

>>39437329
>EN
Get that shit out of /here/

>>39437351
Nijiseethe

>>39437351
we love EN here

>>39437329
Probably hit a million within the week at this rate, pretty good for the official channel

>>39437365
Holoseethe

>>39437351
Take your time sister

>>39436790
>>39436907

it's kinda like r/virtualyoutubers but with less pussies and chinks

>>39437351
Remember, no nijiniggers

>>39437312
It’s not a bad business model for the most part. It certainly saves them money by making it part of the company culture that not everyone gets the expensive treatment. But it sure is fucking annoying seeing Luxiem get special treatment for being lucky enough to figure out how to pander to chink fujos.
My willingness to watch the xsoleil girls’ streams is dampened by the knowledge that Vox’s stupid face will haunt the recommended page if I forget to put it on private browsing.

>>39437206
>50 graduations
Entertainment factory or graduation factory?

>>39437329
Low for Gura

>>39437392
Nijiseethe

>>39437312
>That'w why Nijisanji is at the level it's at right now
So about to nosedive into bankruptcy?

>>39437416
That's weird, I watch Zaion and the occasional niji girl and I don't think I've ever seen a nijimale stream or clip pop up

>>39437392
Nijiseethe

>>39437416
>figure out how to pander to chink fujos
Lol, if this was true Vox wouldn't have stepped on multiple landmines and reclined as hard as he did.

>>39437351
Jewcorp shill

>>39437377
No, we don't. Fuck EN.

>>39437329
It's doing pretty well by 2022 standards and for the debuff channel it's on, and people are going to be coping about it in 7-8 days or so.

>>39437302
If Cover treated them better and included them in the relay maybe they wouldn't have been on hiatus in the first place

>>39437468
Yep. Emphasis on “lucky”. That’s the thing about luck…if it’s not also accompanied by skill it doesn’t last

>>39437481
inb4 suisei orisong

>>39437479
Nijiseethe

>>39437301
>didnt even try listen to it
whats the point of numberfagging this?

>>39437479
Nijiseethe

>>39437472
At least they stream, something HoloEN doesn't do.

>>39437351
It's all fun and games to doompost and indulge in negative emotions, because we are indeed at a low point, but you still need to remember that this is the holoboard and specifically the HoloEN board, and that won't change any time soon. You're just a guest here, whoever it is you watch

>>39437329
>1 day
you people are genuinely retarded.

>>39437417
when you have over 300 members in your history, thats not too absurd

>>39436849
Good, tired of EN special guests being forced into every JP event. Make your own shit for once.

>>39437484
This was organized by Mio, Cover doesn't do shit.

>>39437534
>losing 1/6th of your talent base
>not absurd
Do nijiniggers really?

>>39437520
If this is bait to encourage more small corpo shilling, then congratulations anon.

>>39437509
Because it got 1m.
That's it. It's an achievement regardless.

>>39437443
Kek, bankruptcy? Please go back to school to study economics

>>39437329
Good for now. I would worry about legs through consider the channel it's on.

>>39437569
Cope

>>39437559
Exactly, Cover doesn't do shit to protect or help holoEN which is why they aren't in the relay.

>>39437561
That's basically the state of HoloEN already

God I hate nijiniggers so much

>>39437594
Sorry anon, Christmas is family time for EN. No time for streaming.

>>39437417
>50
Yumenographia...

>>39437416
>Lucky
Latest rrat is that they were pushed by b2 staff, since that's what the supposed b2 staff member claimed they did. Note that you gotta take whatever the fucker chinks in charge over there with two heaping spoonfuls of salt, but it's something to consider.

>>39437561
Yes, because Nijisanji literally does not give a fuck. With the level of accelerate they do, they almost certainly expect an absurd level of graduations. I mean, if they didn’t have a bunch of attrition, at some point everyone in Japan is going to be a streamer for Nijisanji.
I’m, like, half-joking. They probably do at least consider a somewhat higher rate of graduation to be a net neutral or even a mild positive

>>39437607
>nijiniggers in charge of math

>>39437559
>Mio hates EN
Holy based

>>39437150
Reminder that the oshi concept is stupid baggage from idol culture that shouldn't apply to any vtuber.

>>39437559
Based witch

>>39437614
>family
That excuse still makes me mad. Christmas for JPs are basically for lovers and yet most of them try to stream something for their fans

>>39437636
As based as it would be, how much you wanna bet that after numerous behind the scenes grumbling and complaining about time zone differences and being generally unenthusiastic about collabing with JP, that JP members slowly stopped thinking about inviting EN?
I genuinely think at this point that JP isn’t doing it on purpose, the members probably just don’t think about including EN in stuff anymore because they don’t seem to ever be into it

>>39437614
Bae…
Mori…
IRyS…
Fauna (probably)…
Ame…

>>39437682
That’s WHY JP streamers stream on Christmas, you idiot. For them, it’s the equivalent of an EN vtuber streaming on valentines to prove they don’t have a boyfriend.
JP vtubers do it to prove (or lie) that they’re single. Nobody pretends that they don’t have family.

>>39437682
Yeah no shit anon, what do you think valentines is

>>39437686
Retard.

>>39437686
>here is my headcanon
Watch streams, it's far more likely JP are just jealous of the attention and popularity EN get and so stopped collabing with them after their attempts at leeching failed

>>39437659
i hope that girl kill herself

>>39437686
I mean the fact that Bae and Irys still get collabs with JP, albeit only semi regularly, kinda confirm the time zone stuff.

>>39437712
You know they stream on Xmas AND Valentines, right?

>>39437686
Why is it EN's responsibility to accommodate to JP time zones? Muh precious JP sleep schedule?

>>39437745
KEK

reminder to mythniggers who still cried out to omegae for kimono outfits even tho they already had their new year outfit. FUCK YOU BEGGARS, its because of you that everything is plastered with en and idshitters

In other news

>>39437755
Idk, I was thinking primarily of the big events like the Minecraft summer festival, that sort of thing. The ones where it’s most or all of the entire agency.

>>39437755
NTA but if the organizer is JP then why the fuck should they adhere to EN timezone?

>>39437686
ID is not there either, I dont see their fans moaning about it.
Why is it always EN who needs help from JP to bandwagon an event?? If you want to be a part of it then organize it yourself

>>39437800
Wow. I think I’m the second reply in that screenshot. That anon got a LOT of (yous) after I left that thread…

>>39437629
>>39437561

Luinee host club predictions?

>>39437803
The one that was thrown up pretty last minute and still had like half of EN show?

>>39437807
Because most of hololive's viewers don't live in Japan and not using JP timezones helps both holoEN and the overall hololive audience

>>39437686
Retard.
This relay has been JP only even last year, unlike sportsfes where a big deal was made about including ID+EN.

>>39437856
>high operating margin
Fancy words to say that they'll stop giving you logistic support once you've debuted.

>>39437808
Maybe they'd actually organize something if Cover didn't fuck them over year after year and make them demotivated

>>39437901
Oh you're that anon, I was stupid for replying.
Carry on.

>>39437901
>most of hololive's viewers don't live in Japan
Clipwatchers who never watch streams, you mean.

You guys know that cross branch collabs need to go through management and that's why most Holo organized collabs don't do that right?

>>39437908
He just wants to do his epic Holo v Holo war anon he doesn’t care about facts

>>39437755
What makes ENsharts this entitled?

I swear to god, if Miko steals Lui or Watame's gold with another meme pokemon stream...

>>39437956
>cross branch collabs need to go through management
>meanwhile Tempus can just drop in discord to answer the call for collabs with holoEN whenever they want
>Kronii can jump in as a last minute replacement for a Tempus collab stream
Hm?

>>39437991
Bae already told people that Tempus and HoloEN have the same management unlike JP, they're the same branch in disguise

>>39438013
Doesn't holostars jp have the same management too?

>>39437981
Hags don’t need no gold, just give them a warm mug of tea and some cuddling and they are satisfied

>>39437991
>What are you talking about anon? THEY ARE THE SAME BRANCH!

>>39437851
Yeah anon he literally dropped that he had sex with his parents as a kid like it was nbd, what did you expect?

>>39438043
this guy/girl might be the most hated non-talent ever in the vtubing history

>HIMA 6k
APOLOGIZE!

Also
>nu-Cocoa mogging iLuna girls
KNEEL! APOLOGIZE TO BRAVE GROUP!

>>39437981
She's battling Star gang, the story is boring. If she was doing Larry's gym then I could see gold.

Where did they go?

>>39436846
So holowin before christmas huh

>>39438117
What happened to OG Cocoa?

>>39438159
outside
zero-covid is over for now

>>39438092
Imagine if omega debuts and is voiced by a cute girl

>>39438159
>Take UR time
it's evolving

>>39438176
touring with her band

>>39438200
Any chinese speaker can tell me the reason why they say "take your time"?

>>39438217
Is the band successful at least?

>>39438159
Tourists really fascinate me. Like where do they come from and why do they always watch one event thing and then nothing else after that? Where do they really go?

More clip numbers.
Split today is 17.5M(-850k) HL to 12.9M(-800k) NJ.

>>39438228
They know very little to no English but still want to blend in with chat so they take the easiest phrases to learn and spam it constantly.

>>39438252
doing pretty well. they're touring around japan soon

>>39438302
Graph.

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>39438302
Split today is 5.7M(-180k) HL to 2.6M(-430k) NJ.

>>39438197
Given that the avatar was just an excuse for Omega to larp as an anime girl on twitter, it would be the ultimate cuck move. The male whose been vtweeting up until now would seethe so hard.

>>39438351
Graph.

>>39438302
More clip numbers by Source.

Looking doubtful but curious to see if Mel gets any noticeable return buff, been 4 weeks since her last stream.

>>39438397
it's been that long?

>>39438264
Well you know, just like people only watch World Cup for like a month then immediately forget about FIFA until 4 years later

>>39438414
Last was offcollab with Calli on November 25th

>>39438397
Doubtful, Mel unfortunately has a history of coming and going, so another round of absences isn't buff worthy.

>>39438397
roru
rumao

Digging up old post

>>39425162
Wasn't that just a reaction to what Mori's roommate did? Afaik she went through her contract with a lawyer before that so I assume management didn't like that idea at all but couldn't do anything about it due to some legal loopholes they didn't really had to care about while dealing with JP talents. Mori have a polak and italian blood in her so of course she would be cheating the system. Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if this experience pushed COVER into rewriting contracts for all future members and just discouraging people who might want to join with a plan to do the same, it's pretty much damage control.

>>39438479
die crossposter die

>>39438479
what

>>39438479

HoloX manga looking wild

Even for normal day thread is a bit too dead
What happened?

>>39438585
Fucking cringe

>>39438479
Absolute fucking retard.

>>39437686
Japan is a colony of the United States. They should cater to HoloEN. Not the other way around.

>>39438629
Christmas is coming up
I know some of you guys are shut ins who never leave your mother's basement but that has long since stopped being 4chan's primary user base

>>39438642
Nijiseethe

>>39436999
Mixed gen concept doesn't really work on the Western market it really doesn't appeal to anyone other than some r/nijisanji faggots. Sisters want their dudes to take their time and goslings want them far away from their waifus, pushing both into the same team is nothing but disadvantage, neutral at best.

>>39438302
Wasn't there an idiot saying IRyS doesn't get good clip numbers? Everytime she streams she is in the top 25 and frequently cracks the top 10.

>>39438642
That’s the point

>>39438646
and indog like you should just suck dutch cocks lmao

>>39438646
increasingly a colony of china sadly

>>39438642
/

>>39438698
If China attacks Japan who is going to be doing the majority of the fighting? Not Japan, lol.

>>39437924
they are talking about the company you retard

>>39438668
Has mixed gender gens ever worked? Serious question, I can't think of one that didn't fall flat. Even hal's company fell flat

>>39438432
this is a good comparison. you should have jsut said soccer instead.

>>39438711
Because instead of trying to get the favor of Rushia and the region as a whole, they choose to spent resources to fight it.

>>39438397
Nah, Mel audience is desensitized to her absences and returns.
Every time she returns she has to start from "zero", sometimes with good luck, sometimes on her career low

>>39438711
China wishes lol

>>39438767
What has Mel been up to?

>>39438752
Unironically why would it work? From the beginning Vtuber corpo have always debut same sex gen and it work, debuting mixed gen is just trying to change what’s working for no good reason

>>39436977
>better

Casuals seem to care more about voice and model than actual personality so "better" can be very subjective, Kronii was the biggest Council despite trying the least and not giving a fuck about anything.

>>39438689
Kronii has half her clip views and hasn't streamed in a while, that's why you don't only look at one day

EN GOLD!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ohLhPMO1s

>>39438752
>>39438796
Gamers, SEEDS, 1st gen, 2nd gen, SMC gumi (Hakase, Rena, Hayato), Meifu (Ibrahim, Furen, Melissa). there are plenty of those in nijisanji itself

>>39438698

>>39438689
Depends on when they said it. They did struggle, but got a noticeable boost from their redesign onwards. However, she moreso relies on recent content rather than old, as seen in the graph of which clips generate views(compared to others around her) >>39438330, meaning she has a much lower floor.

>>39438824
Last two didn't break 10k

>>39438795
vampire stuffs

>>39438783
they're in quite a number of formal and informal trade and military cliques with China anon. aegis ashore or no, they're not really anything for the bugs to worry about and very keen on getting them to invest.

>>39438795
Let's check her return stream because she was active on Twitter so it might have just been a regular streaming break to take care of business

>>39438752
Ex-gamer works really good. The shitter left, the one that care less about stream get shit numbers but those who does stream get decent numbers.

>>39438876
RAPE

Cover will counter the gamer wave with cocksuckers gen

>>39438893
yeah no idea why anon said that. gamers has kanae, kuzuha, sasaki, himawari, akabane and ririmu

>>39438815
That only lasts for so long, though. I get the feeling that there’s diminishing returns on this sort of thing. I.e. a sex model isn’t going to be as beneficial for EN3 than it was for Council.

>>39438819
the clips were tallied awhile back and i can't remember where irys was but i do remember the council rankings were kronii - mumei with a huge powergap to bae and than fauna

>>39438876
HoloATM status?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zsily0/highlights_awards_2022_looking_for_your_favorite/

>>39438752
>>39438796
just look at here and look at numbers to see
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI_(main_branch)

>>39438876
Is she holo

>>39438920
And Luna!

>>39438893
Ex-Gamers is from a very different era on Nijisanji tho, they were not a "mixed gender gen", they were a full blown separate branch.
Maybe the most balanced "mixed gender wave" would be Meifu
>Melissa
>Ibrahim
>Furen
but then Melissa took an arrow to the knee

I think from that point on, other than Lain being the odd exception, Nijisanji went segregated genders for debuts.

>>39438911
HoloEN gamers:
>EN Kaela
>Minecraft autist
>RTS autist
onegai yagoo

>>39438942
>18 minutes
>0 comment
Grim.

>>39438950
Yes.

>>39438988
He will release the non-binary furry gen. Their fan will make Nijiniggers look like a joke

>>39438942
Do they also accept clips from homos?

>>39438988
Okay but I want at least 1 fps pro in EN

>>39438942
will be full of homo collab clips

>>39438988
That but 5 MOBA players.

>>39438942
>Leaving reddit in charge of providing hololive highlights

>Overlapping Persona 5
>Overlapping Karaoke
>Randomly parked in Guras timeslot when they have started 2 - 3 hours later for a year
What the fuck is wrong these two?

>>39439041
And none of homo solo clips

>>39439006

>>39439029
>FPS pro
You mean Homolover

ENTER ANYA

hololivetv got a gold checkmark on twitter now

>>39439029
Fuck off with your fps nigger, I don't want whore like laplus or kobo in my branch

>>39439049
kek no one's going to listen to Bae

>>39438978
Was Melissa first of "graduation among us"?

>>39439049
Idk but it’s funny

>>39439070
Fuck off holoshill

>>39439049
irys wants to assert dominance over the absolute runt of the gen.

>>39439075
You could have a botan

Anya is no longer Japanese....

>>39439049
Overlapping Persona is whatever but overlapping the karaoke is fucking retarded. They could easily do a little mini relay and raid the one starting after. I hope Bae starts later or IRyS starts earlier so they don't overlap.

>>39438815
Voice and model can only give you exposure. Personality and talent dictates how long they can keep those viewers

>>39439132
Nijiseethe

Why does Anyas Japanese sound so advanced? IRyS sounds simple and childish compared to hers.

>>39439132
Holoboard.
Seethe about it

>>39439049
>What the fuck is wrong with IRyS?
Ftfy

>>39439163
you don't speak japanese

>>39439049
hey on the bright side at least theres no mumei karaoke this time!

>>39439049
Why is the personification of IRyStocrat a fucking pleb with a cap?

ENfags complaining about "her timeslot" and overlaps will always be funny

>>39439163
>>39439184
I think anon is confusing the "desu-masu" formality of Anya japanese with "advanced".

>>39439188
Better than clockcuck lmao

>>39438698
hush, they are chink colony now

>>39438815
Kronii is easily the most interesting personality in Council though

>>39318460
what would a hypothetical tortoise Holo's numbers be like?

>>39439132
kys

>>39438013
Didn't one of the homos say they are not under omega? Lot's of confusing information about the whole thing from the start.

>>39439132
Not now nijinigger.
Adults are talking.

>>39439220
kys crossposter

>>39438815
i mean people were pretty quick to give up on kronii, only took a few months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDvSh7Y0rSo
>Axels nickname is Bryan
IRyStokeks........

>>39439137
Since when Botan is an fps autist? I watched her MW2 and I'm sorry, she's fucking shit. Take that 'fps lion' title out from her name

The NijiEN lassies should really move away from this timeslot. Its just not working for them.

This is quite low for a gimmick totsu stream, isn't it?

>>39439213
If being non-binary is the most interesting part of you, then you would be pretty boring.

>>39439213
When she's in-character.

>>39439273
aloucuck...

>>39438228
It's a way to baby their homos I would assume "don't push yourself too hard my anime husbando you work so much" or something like that.

Pictured here are two chuubas that debuted as Fandead
This is Rushias most lasting legacy
How does it make you feel
Are you happy it happened more than sad that it's over

>>39439213
depressed gook is character?

>>39439329
The one above is showing signs she's hunting for boyfriends IRL, though.

>>39439292
Channel debuff. Here are all of Lui streams over 15k in the past six months
>pic related

>>39439329
I'm disappointed that the bitch was a time bomb.

Can anyone get 35k tonight? Else it's going to be Niji gold

>>39439213
but not the best on-stream presence.

>>39439329
What are you deflecting from?

>>39439012
It's from the Hololive EN Twitter, not the holopro one. So I assume not.

All holos got unshadowbanned, but now Ayame got restricted

>>39439213
Self deprecation and irony can only carry you so far, I literally used to listen her streams to fall asleep when my schedule was fucked.

FUBUKI IS A WHORE
A WHORE

>>39439348
5ch has similarly shit quality rrats about Kanata, do you believe those too?

>>39439400
Gangbanged holy shit

>>39439366
Sheep totsu + announcement

>>39439392
Ayame's racism went too far this time

>>39439392
The bot is cruising through the Holo accounts. But based on >>39439070, clearly Holo management is on the case and making their moves to get the accounts in good order

>>39439366
Miko Pokemon

>>39439392
It's probably becasue of the tweets about koreans.

>>39439378
I sometimes think of something that only makes sense as a catalog post but don't want to make a thread over it, so I post it here, I basically use you guys as a booty call when the catalog isn't worth it
The post is made in earnest though, and I didn't really have a reason to make it either, I kinda just felt like it

Can she do it bros? 45k ikz
https://www.youtube.com/live/wc7QT5Yzf6o?feature=share

>>39439075
quiet, indog.

>>39439292
This is the second time she has done it so it lost the novelty.

>mostly english
kek

easy 10k, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qxIG092YR8

>Lui is getting merch
What?

>>39439348
Forget hunting. Pretty sure she's already found one.

Well Pekora get to take a break day again because guaranteed gold. Tomorrow is DQ

>>39439542
>guaranteed gold.
Is it tho

>>39439491
Last time she had Polka as her bouncer and a better cast of guests too, on top of it doubling as a milestone stream.
This type of stream: it's lesbian bait too, isn't it? I can see it appealing more to women than to men

>>39439512
Guess which one is successful

>>39439529
she's holoX. they exist purely to be shilled and to shill stuff.

>>39439542
Pekora need to rest well these few days to make sure cold chicken doesn't happen again this year.

>>39439565
Those on the left side

>>39439512
>a bit of fauna and mumei together
that's an insult to fauna and mumei

>>39439565
kobo fell off

Will Mike stream on the 24th and 25th?

>>39439626
It's a compliment

>>39439075
quiet, indog.

>Enter watame prechat
>welcome to membersheep
How

>>39439642
Here is a bold prediction: I can see Kaela catching up to Kobo live audience around their gen anniversary.
She'll never catch in subs but live audience? I can really see it happening.

>>39439642
More collabs with Regis and Indogs male fleshstreamers are needed.

>>39439644
Who the fuck is Mike?

>>39439565
Stupid indog

>>39439642
She's culled harder than Gura she actually has at least 20k viewers

>>39439691
Don't know if newfag or an advanced shitpost

>>39439644
Was she streaming this month? I don't hear about her at all recently.

>>39439392
Should not racially abuse Ina and Kronii.

I'm tired of hearing that they just need to find someone who wants to stream for EN3. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You can't tell if they will have the same drive two years from now. Especially when the toll on one's body for sitting so long becomes very noticeable.
They should stick with what has made them successful: choosing by talent, experience, and personality. Especially find those that can consistently interact with their chat in positive ways. Ex-pro-gamers seem like an easy choice to also look for. But how many of those want to put up with an idol agency? Kaela is a rare find, living her dream. Her cover is underrated. Female pro gamers (that don't cheat) with good personalities are really rare.

>>39439778
>I'm tired of hearing that they just need to find someone who wants to stream for EN3
Nobody said that.

>>39439400
We know, and it's hot af. You've seen the doujins and fanbox shit for her right? Damn. All of gamers is SEX.

>>39439793
Oh right I forgot about this shill stream

10k sheep

https://youtu.be/yX-irgQXOFE

>>39439793
Joshukun...

>>39439811
>start stream
>10k
it's that easy if she wills it

>>39439797
>Nobody said that.
Blind?

just woke up, and shit happened?!? I don't give a shit about the dude, but Pekora gonna got shit on again.

>>39439778
They should look for people outside of NA. GB is probably a good choice but I don't mind having chuubas from SG or TW.

How many tonight?

>>39439691
Mike Hunt

>>39439270
That's a long fucking time for someone so out of it from the start, at least the rest of Council mostly improved themselves or fucked off. To be fair you might argue Kronii never asked for popularity and was perfectly happy just playing a side-kick going the bare minimum route but for some reason she turned into a stand-out of her gen, part of the blame is on recruitment team because it doesn't seem like she lied to them about motivation. I mean Council wouldn't end up with only part-timers and Fauna if they actually cared about getting the most motivated people for the job.

>>39439793
I'm so fucking tired of seeing HoloX everywhere.

>>39439778
>Especially when the toll on one's body for sitting so long
This reeks of the "reddit retarded reposter" but, heh, this point is too dumb to let slide.

There are millions of people that not only do that but they do it 5 days a week, 8 hours per day for 20 years of their lives, and then go home, sit on their comfy computer gaming chairs and play some four more hours of CoD, or scroll scroll scroll on facebook.

Streaming is not an easy job but it's not the "long hours" that are the problem

>>39439858
>4ch
Lmao

>>39439858
>nijiniggers rewriting history
a tale as old as time

>>39439858
>4ch
>Pekora reacted to it
Nijinog and their misinformation.

>>39439855
Nijiseethe.

>>39439642
She is a foul-mouthed person, and most of her audience are children. Yesterday she almost cried after baited by superchat to say swear word

>>39439858
Pekora didn't even know what was going on. What done Gwelu in was costing Fuwa a sponsorship, forcing him to fall on his sword to cover for Gwelu and Fuwa sisters demanded Gwelu's head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBOeZHYKv6M
Hmm rehearsal

>>39439858
>her fans got upset and sent many emails to Nijisanji
Bitch I just made some popcorn and watched the trainwreck. You think I got time to send a fucking email?

>>39437104
is this still overvalued? Even if riku sells his share now, he'd still be earning hundreds of millions. Also, I advise you all to buy the stocks during this time when it's low. NJU and Nijianniversary concert is gonna be soon.
t. never bought stocks before

>>39439865
>part timers and fauna
people separating fauna from the college students don't realize that the college students do more for holoEN than fauna does

>>39439642
will she recline all the way to ollie tier or will it take a face reveal to do that?

Yeah, Watame isn't beating 33k today. This one does NOT slip today
>CONGRATS ON GAKU (forma de Towa escondido) GOLD AND NIJISANJI TAKES THE MONTH!

>>39439984
>will it take a face reveal
Kobo will be buffed no?

>>39439075
quiet, indog.

Wtf Koyori

>>39439006
>non-binary furry gen

Fagni would love that

>>39439977
What do they do?

>>39439984
vshojo ID is over there sir

>>39439966
No, I wouldn't buy, not yet. Not until the next financial report.

watamage, you shouldn't abuse your powers on a measly clubhouse game...

tempiss status? are they still relevant?

>>39439858
Lol Nịinigger trying to make it look like Pekora somehow took part in this
When all this going down she was literally taking care of the shadowban, completely unaware of the incident