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>>39321144
>>39328684
>>39344735
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What have I missed?

>>39375356
>The suisei summons hoshi rep
Not that much. Couple of timeloops happened and honestly aren't really worth the trouble to check. We have a new /pcg/ and also /hag/ anon. Concerning things that might affect Hoshiyomia, /who/'s got a hydrology map now, and /pcg/'s also undergoing some revisions for their lore.

>>39375494
>Timeloops
Don't care kek
>new anons
Welcome! I am the hoshi rep!
>Concerns
>>Hydrology
Wouldn't mind seeing if mine needs correction in those circumstances. Climate all the same?
>>/pcg/ revisions
Sounds fun, would't mind hearing what their plans anre
>Suisei summons me
I have been waiting for it! kek.

>>39375633
>climate
Think you have Cfa rather than csayour far north west along who border and ocean. With that in mind, do you have any terrain requests at all that can be taken into consideration?

>>39375807
Good to know, if I have any requests, it would be for our borders with /who/ to be a bit more natural by elevation. What I mean is that the ridge they have would be extended down to us and one of my ridges extended down.

The reason for this is that I would think when the Republic and the Grand Principality made their borders, they likely would both take into account the terrain and neither of them, both as proud nation, would want one side to have the high ground along the whole border. As I personally did not create these borders and have no intentions of changing them, I think this is a solid reason that can help make sense of things. Anything else really doesn't matter right now.

>>39376126
And this was the suggestion kek, sorry. As you can see I also let for a valley to form where the river can flow.

>>39376154
Speaking of your map, I don't think you will have a caldera lake at Mount Migo because it is a shield volcano (pic related) like Kīlauea in Hawaii. If you got rid of the Caldera lake or at least moved them, it would work fine. I can say that your hydrology is impressive so I think that any changes that would be made would be solely related to you and /who/

>>39376224
Good to know! I will change it, and thanks for the help Zbro. Do you have any idea where the climate line would change with cfa? Could make for an interesting region.

>>39316996
uhhhhhh
Investors are mostly either the church, the state government or city governments. There are nasfaqg-kronies around who may also invest.

>>39333197
>>39335173
If you get any ideas or specbio anmals in nasfaqg, feel free to share, I'd love to flesh out the biosphere more!

>>39338208
You can consider nasfaqg open to ideas about multi-region animals as well.

>>39341712
>in-universe slurs that arent just a variation of "(insert-word-here)-nigger"
Very based.

>>39360658
100% possible. Nasfaqg could have one, as well as many other nations i suppose.

>>39376290
Give me a few minutes bro, just waking up kek. I'll also take into consideration what your requested changes would do. I think they are reasonable given the circumstances.

>>39376343
Thanks! Good to see you btw, its been a long time I think! Did we ever interact?

>>39376592
Not sure we did. But glad to talk with you!

>>39375633
Right here: >>39344735

>>39376126
Err. First I have some very slight concerns over the formation of that ridge. I'm against making too much changes to the terrian because it might be a problem when considering the geological history and formation of the different features. But that's assuming the map generator we used when the project started in 100% correct, and that we would actually be that autistic over it.

Second, there is really no need because while I don't know what you have planned for hoshi's pre-/vt/ history, Hoshiyomia existed for longer than the Republic. Before the Republic was formed they are mostly a collection of independent petty-states. And only pretty much right up to before the current state was founded did they start to consolidate into notable state entities. So it can go many ways. One is that it is the extent of the core province of the Empire that became the Principality. And the Western coastal bit was a relatively recent expansion when the North was still a bunch of city-states.
Also about that, I wrote that before that point some nobles in the Principality were invited to become princes of some of the petty-states in the north. Does that work for you and won't screw up any of your plans?

>>39377291
Thanks! I'll get to work.
What about a compromise. Not a massive ridge, but on my side you have a line of ridges that in essence accomplish this without messing anything up. Overall, it just makes me wonder why we wouldn't have set the border a little north otherwise. It's not a major issue, but I wouldn't mind seeing it just act as such just because I looked at meps map and got a little jealous over how clean the borders look KEK.

tl;dr: Just have what serves as a natural border instead of major kilometres of ridge changes. Small and neat. Could make good lore too!

>>39377291
>>39377599
Ah you guys caught me on a pretty unfortunate moment, right now I can't quite offer much in discussion, I will ask hoshiyomia to please tell us about the plans for premodern history, and how Hoshiyomia interacted with the pre-republican states, if we do that, we could probably come to some sort of agreement without having to change the border too radically.

>>39377917
No issue!

I personally assume that our nation would also have some degree of division, and probably independent states even for a while. These could even extend up into what is now /who/ around that peninsula. I would assume that you would have a mix of merchant republics, principalities, signores, counties, etc. I think that while we will all follow the same faith, that there would be different cultures that extend into your lands (Pluralism sounds fun for you guys actually). I cannot remember where your nation was formed from, but I will show a map that potentially could have been part of our culture and maybe now is mixed with you.

As for the current borders, It might be a wise idea for there to be some sort of war between us or a series of wars before we ultimate make peace with honour. I still want to have these border mountains or whatever and I am not sure when we are unified. Perhaps some of the hoshi states in your lands actually joined your republic as our nation became more aristocratic as what is now the current Grand Principality was being formed, which I am placing it's region of birth in Melano, Appia and Capital Region. We can make a fun timetable of this stuff, but ultimate I would like to see the little changes in the map so the borders can make some sense geographically on my side.

Think about some of this, perhaps it gives some of your cities and peoples some flavour.

>>39378823
Would be nice to put the map on...

>>39375356
You also missed Z attacking the /hag/ anon for no reason, which probably now led to him quitting because Z could not even be bothered to apologize for it despite him having attacked and insulted others in the past that they should apologize.

>>39378823
>>39378860
Oh that's excellent, sort of a joint warring states period of 2 different cultures, that and the conflict could be on the status of the petty states from the frontier, it'd give us a good reason to have the peninsula under Republican control and to have our contries hold some amount of reasonable deniability on whether or not we did go to war, which would help the governments spin out propaganda depending on the status of the diplomatic relationship.
If we are to have no changes in the map, it could also be reasoned to have come from some peace agreement to facilitate trade across the rivers and plains. If we are to have some small geographic changes, then some smaller hills could be placed as important museums and forts. That and I'd have to revise the hydrology map to see where I could put them.
I'll have to see how I develop the Hoshiyomian cultural influence on the Republic, sounds fun.

>>39379317 (me)
Also, I'll be unable to continue this conversation for a bit, sorry if I can't reply in time, I hope my other fellow will be here to continue it.

>>39379317
Great! I like this. Yeah, I would imagine no matter how well we get on, our cultures will have border forts on hills. Love it. Keep me updated, I might look more into this myself.

>>39378823
Hai, FellOwl desu. Well if you are following the conversion then Hoshiyomia's formation or founding is at 35 VTE. There a couple /jp/ threads before /vt/ was created but they died with barely any replies. It really depends. Hoshiyomia at this point (35 VTE) could be still a quite small state that would expand and grow from a certain area within the contemporary principality.
And yeah that's sort of the idea behind the princely states during the Archaic era of the Republic Might or might not thing of a more creative name for it.. Petty states along the border and coasts would adopt some of the culture and governance from the south which had a deeper and longer Imperial influence.

Regarding the proposal I have. It is of course not 100% accurate but basically, the idea is that Hoshiyomia, previously an imperial province was restricted THAT river can't read it sorry. And then it expanded in multiple stages. But those areas that it expanded into are of course not just uninhabited but might also already be colonized by people hailing from Hoshiyomia, escaping the chaos from the world split.

I do have some ideas on the status of that peninsula but I'd like to hear your thoughts on the formation first

>>39380130
Uhh, this is where my brain isn't sure because as far as I remember it, most of the problems in /jp/ were on the EN side so I cannot give you an idea about the empire since I need to think more of it overall. Thanks for the ideas.

>>39375209
>>39375232
Behave. Final warning.

>>39380130
Sorry I gave a poor response that really didn't make sense. I want to say some things on this however.
>1. I have no idea what the boundaries of the Holo Empire were, when any break happened whether it be directly or vassally, or how this is being handled to the degree that I can say for certain on it. It confuses me that when we look at the map, and take the Council out of play, I am essentially either isolated because of micomet which isn't factored in here from the rest of the empire or that the map you have shown for the province is missing a great amount of territory since micomet as a thread wouldn't exist in jp for obvious reasons, but would likely fall under me and sakuran under this idea.
>2. I want also to say that your nation did not exist until 499, and I would need to check the lore to see where it came from but I did want to mention that I much prefer >>39379317 this to your own proposal since this is more inline with my vision personally. It gives you guys more interesting background and me as well compared to what I think you are proposing currently.
I also am not sold on the concept that after jp, we all are playing a game of Civilization (I might have misread this completely) where the other lands are totally uninhabited either, but lean more towards them being of similar cultures but disorganized.

Overall, I really need to hear the whole story from your side to give you a proper response and if it seems like I am dismissing all of it, I am not as much as I am just sort of in limbo. Thanks!

>>39375209
>>39375232
Do not ritual post before the new thread's posts are complete.

>>39376327
Got a local climate map I can download?

what is this place??? we really have a lot of weird threads on this board...

>>39383022
Yea. Don't mind it.

>>39383022
Ayyy we got another kobokek! No this is not a roblox rp server type thing, just saying that upfront.

If you want to find out more, you can check the OP and click on some links there.

>>39383022
Along with probably Nasfaq (I think we beat them), I would say this is the most autistic part of the board where all kinds of autists tickle their fancy, whether it be in milautism, storyfags, spec bio, economics, history, mapmaking, climatology, geology, chemistry, physics, etc. I would wager we are the most creative thread on this board personally.

As for what we do, what we do is make a nation about our homethread. I represent Suisei's thread, and the genesis of all creation comes down to how /vt/ works, its fanbases, its threads and our oshis.

I personally enjoy this quite a bit and if this appeals to you, I recommend reading this https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro.. I assume you are from /ehe/ and we do not have a writer for them so when you are done, you can try posting the key aspects of what /ehe/ is about and we will try to help. Don't worry about living up to other standards, and just have fun. Thanks for stopping by!

>>39383448
ok.
>>39383525
Thanks spacenigger, but i have no interest in roblox rp so why bring that up?
>>39383525
Hmmm HMMMMM.... Thanks for being the most informative. sounds... a little fun i guess. I'll read this thing and see what i can think of then. I'll stay.

>>39383022
There's also a lot of women larpers here so if they come at you remember the rule Post Tits or GTFO

>>39383661
>>39383448
u are the space nigger, sorry suityan enjoyer.
>>39383672
Like you i guess???

>>39383661
The last koboker that came here was apparently a 14 year old that just wanted roblox rp

>>39383699
>>39383661
Glad you gave us a shot! Dramafags are here, but don't mind them too much.

You are correct about our Pink friend, he hates women so much that I think he is one kek.

>>39383699
No I'm oshi posting. How would I larp as Luna?

>>39383661
We had a kobokek(what's your fanbase called again? Nah for real, I'm drawing a blank and don't want to keep calling you kobokek) that came in and assumed this was that, specifically brought up roblox. He was a funny fellow, even if he didn't stay in the end.

>>39383798
I don't hate anything hoshi, hate is stupid. I simply dislike to varying degrees.

Ok, lets see then. I have questions that need answering!!!
Notes however about some things....:
>koboniggers in warkop
that thread is total shit and they deserve that name.
>mhm
Ela's national intro being that autistic is expected. sasuga bro.
>others
A lot of those sound cool to me.

- What is this chuubanite shit?
- Do we have any other ID writers aside from those listed?
-How many reps recommend do I need to do before i write shit?
-Why is this luknight talking more about women than anything?

Call me what you want, it's 4 chan faggots.

>>39384351
It is because I like to piss people off and drank too much coffee

>>39384351
Welcome, I write for mep
>chuubanite
Its autism in chemical form
>ID
all of aside from anya and ollie have writers!
>reps
A legendary man came in, didnt read and wrote one of the more respected stories here. But really, just go over your neighbors on our map or even talk to us. Dont get caught up in it too much!
>luknight
“He” is one.

>>39384566
https://rentry.org/moon-lore
https://rentry.org/main-risu-lore-doc
Start with Moonafics and the Risuner one, since they aren't at the autism level of the other ID reps.

>>39384294
You can deny it, but it is the truth!
>>39384351
Ah good, let's see if I can help
>chuubanite
We have more qualified people but truthfully, it is sort of like playdoh that is used for our magic system. (NOT AS SIMPLE AS I SAID HOWEVER)
>ID
Think all of the ID threads have writers.
>Reading
As much as you wish, but don't get bogged down or discouraged!
>Luknight
See above kek.

Also one more thing, Koboker. Here is your location on the map as reference and as of now your nation has a flag. I like it, see the archive and one vague piece of lore regarding water shamans.

>>39384893
This is the kino flag.

If you need help, I am around! Would follow hoshis advice about thread concepts.

>>39384351
>What is this chuubanite shit?
Our magic system. Think magic rocks. Each nation has its own version that draws from the concepts of their chuuba or fanbase theme.
>Do we have any other ID writers aside from those listed?
All the ids have writers, aside from Anya, iofi and Ollie iirc.
>How many reps recommend do I need to do before i write shit?
I would suggest at least skimming through your neighbours lore so you know what the area is like, but other than that, no reps needed, really.
>Why is this luknight talking more about women than anything?
Eh, you know how virgins are.

>>39384781
>>39384566
You slander my good name before I can do it myself by suggesting that I'd refuse to post tits and a timestamp as proof. You scum

>>39384566
>>39384689
>>39384781
Thanks, good to know this stuff. Ill look into those two things now.
>>39384893
>>39384958
Cool!!!
>>39384967
I see this magic rock playdoh is complex isn't it? And this luknight is fucking weird.

>>39384981
It's just bants bro, kek. But this is the result of your own actions too ahaha!

>>39385138
Oh absolutely, I'm not a mentally sound individual. Certainly not right now. Enjoy your stay though.

>>39385227
Me either!! Wait, i am sorry if me playing along with the bantz hurt your feelings.

>>39385203
I know hoshi. I am in a strange mood, reminiscent of that time I wrote a ten paged essay on Solomon's Temple without prompting.

>>39385353
Sounds like an interesting mood honestly!

Luna with machine gun go nanananananananananananananananananaaaa~!

Petition to change the name of Chuubanite to «magic rock playdoh»

>>39385430
Fully in favour of this man's motion. Has a certain ring to it.

>>39385387
It is not one that lends itself to sleep

>>39382400
Local climate for what?

I welcome you to our autism kobro. I am the moonafic Meppa mentioned. Candyman is Candyman. If you need help, ask Meppa or Hoshi they are really smart!

>>39385319
Do not worry water man. I am unwell in a well way. I'm not full schizo yet

>>39385571
I also had a brilliant idea and lost it from laughing at some of the posts here.

what is going on here?

>>39385762
Trying to regain my lost brilliance squirrelman, hbu?

>>39385806
listening to Kaela. Holy shit this stream is funny

Enjoy the lewd.

ok, so I read moon and risu lore.

First, 100% sure that the person who wrote history for risu is not the same as the person who did the rest kek. IQ gap it seemed to me lel.

Second, I like moons. Your map is lewd so i will post a lewd for it.

let me think of concepts.

>>39385563
For local flora and fauna.

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>>39386027
War with who??? Me??? Bring it!!!

>>39386014
HAHAHHAHAHA

Thanks for the lewd! Glad you like moonas tits kobro

>>39386014
>they noticed
oi. we have multiple risu writers. i am the smart one dont let anyone fool you

>>39386219
This one, Kobro, is not the smart one. This is OGsuner. Famous on the board for sexuhara.

this concept shit is harder than i thought. Just will say what our thread is about.

>cunny
>correction
>ToT child
>kusogaki kobo
>ojisans

Sometimes Ringo stuff as well, but mostly we are very much a uoh thread and I am proud to be part of men of culture. How do you work with this?

>>39386521
Cheeky brats lead through river magic with oji san correctional police

>>39386521
As expected, I want to make this clear that you absolutely do not have to turn your nation into just non stop sex with children shithole and that horniness doesn't need to be outwardly shown either. You have the freedom to build it how you like however, Moonafic made his thread's horniness rather apparent but it doesn't make his thread "Sex People" in lore at all. Personally, I would play into the Water Shaman stuff for religion and for the cunny aspect, have marriage common at a young age for girls. Ringo is ringo, and we have a few ringofags here. I would recommend also looking into your climate too, and thinking of your neighbors as well. They are ID so you likely have some sort of relations as a thread with them. Just build what you think makes the most sense given what your thread is about and have some fun as I mentioned.

>>39386722
Why does this feel like you roasted OG with the Sex People bit?

>>39386807
He deserves to be roasted for it, his sex culture is shit

>>39386807
It really isn't roasting him as much as I am saying that a horny thread doesn't need to be blantly a copy of what OG does if that makes sense. Nothing at all wrong with OG!

>>39386020
Unfortunately i havent yet made one, but I do have a general idea of what each area is like

>Four Coins Archipelago
Tropical Monsoon Climate with the northernmost island possibly being rainforest.
>Northern Territories
Cfa (Humid Subtropical). Southern areas are slightly drier than the islands.
>Home Island
Mixture of Cfa and Csa (Mediterranean hot summer), switching to Csb (medierranean warm summer) and Cfb (Oceanic) towards the south. Csa and Csb are the largest climate zones.
>Heartflow Coast
Tiny band of Cfa in the north, switches to Csa and Csb for the rest of the area. The far eastern parts may get pockets of Csc (Mediterranean cold summer) in areas where there is high elevation. In the south, in areas of high elevation, may get some Dfb/Dsb (Humid Continental, warm summer)
>Southern Territories
Mostly Cfb. May get Dfb in areas of higher elevation and closer to the west. If there are any Dfb, those areas would be relatively small.

>>39386903
Actually that was mean, I'm sorry OG

>>39386903
its not that bad at all, stupid schizo

>>39386972
i forgiv.

Welcome Kobo. If you want to talk climate then ping me in two weeks.

>>39386632
ToT
>>39386722
Thanks suityan enjoyer. Ngl, the idea of making your nation about sex is boring as shit and thats why i was struggling. No offense to the Risuner at all!!! Good ideas, let me think more.
>>39385571
Hi
>>39387048
Why? Whats the matter?

>>39382103
Currently, I'm a bit too sleep deprived to try and elaborate on the proposal you liked. Sorry.
The Holo Empire as of now is more of a hypothetical used to explain why splits across the northern continent are all hololive related, it doesn't have anything written, and I haven't bothered in making a coherent counter idea to it as of now.
>>39386521
I'll agree with the hoshiyomi, do try to avoid having your nation just be fetish galore, in my opinion, it gets pretty boring too.
Please do try to explore the ideas in a variety ways, for example, how childhood is glorified and importance is placed on it. Or other things.

>>39387168
Court says I cannot interfere with new writers for two weeks.

I Miss Hagu

>>39387203
What courts? Spacenigger, this is 4chan. Jannies?
>>39387190
Yeah... it is boring.

>>39387190
Eh, don't worry about it Hooman. We have all the time in the world to get this holo empire stuff down. Probably need to get more in on it too.
>>39387168
Good. That can be a struggle I think is not realizing that you don't need to be literal and just have some fun.

Fun is everything!

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>>39387268
Well, I guess I do have one idea if you want to hear. The idea is that kobos when they mature still look like children. They can breed and give birth but they don't age past a certain age until close to death. Anyway... That's all I want to say. And I'm the local bread dog.

This risuner lives up to his reputation I can tell already lemao.

Ideas:
>Water Shamans, makes sense to me. Desert and shit it would be important for rain and I am not sure how that works but i will todd howard it. wtf is a shaman anyways?
>stealing suiytan enjoyer's idea for young marriage and hooman's for glorify childhood. I assume there would be attempts to look younger too. Think women will also try to act like children kek.
>No clue on government, but I am not making our language indo, ironic. I guess i will play off the common themes of the other IDs that i noticed around me. It fits.
>Military.... i like this sort of thing but will think later.

Going to read more lore shit before i get any other ideas ready.

>>39387580
fuck you nigger meatbro scares me.
>>39387931
>this risuner
wow rude im just horny like everyone else on this board

Anyway i wont do shit today, got a long work shift but tomorrow i can post more stuff.

>>39385138
Oh yea it can get extremely complex if you want it to be, but for the most part, if you can explain the overall idea and how it would connect to your general, there won't be much objection. I would still suggest you read the rentry on it tho, even if it can be hard to chew through. It can spark some ideas.
Also hi, I'm Cunt btw, forgot to introduce myself.

>>39387931
Sounds good so far. This is a process so take your time!

>>39388096
Eat and mutilate squirrels

>>39387784
hmm good ideas spacenigger, but I think maybe the playdoh can be used for anti aging even. you seem nervous man, are you ok?
>>39388096
I have seen sapling threads and you in wAIfu. I am familiar with your game.
>>39388203
oh there is two spaceniggers? I will check out this chuubanite shit soon.
>cunt
Aussie? Hi.

>>39388224
oops, thanks suityan enjoyer. You have helped a lot

>>39388375
>Aussie
Nah, he is just a cunt
But he is a lovely cunt

>>39388375
>Aussie?
Nah, tho that would be nice. I do get confused for one a lot it seems.

>>39388375
I'm expecting a below freezing blizzard to wreck my internet today and tomorrow. Plus I have to go out of town today this afternoon. I don't want to get caught in the ice.

Ogey Magicmen, tell me how calling in rain works with Rain Shamans and if anyone has any other ideas with it.

Hello kobobro, I am v7 rep or Z. nice to meet you. I can help you with climate shit if you want and also i think my IDbros didn't tell you that there is an ID mountain range that will make your nation totally desert, which actually works out well for you kek.

Need help, ask me and I will try.

>>39389792
Hey there ID3 friend, it's all desert now? Neat. Do you have any idea about what water shamans do? I read that chuubanite document and it talked about glyphs and weird shit that sounds like it is occult so I am confused. Would we just draw pentagrams in the sand for rain?

>>39390060
Sadly, I cannot help you much with how you get the rain, but I absolutely can help with how it effects your nation, and even neighbors depending on how powerful this is. Water would mean a lot to your nation on a symbolic level as it literally would be life, so perhaps that is helpful with culture too.

>>39382103
There are still no concrete boundaries yet. Here are some of the notes I wrote regarding the ideas for the hyperwar and pre-/vt/ /hlgg/.

>/jp/ was a post-scarcity world. A different type of magic exists. But still remarkably similar to chuubanite in terms of function and theory.
>Ranging from high fantasy nations like 2hu related generals to sci-fi nations with mechs
>Natives mostly occupy only a relatively small portion of the world.
>Empire was originally a collection of different tribes with their own gods. Gradually became a Republic (with different polities like kingdoms under its administration) ruled by an Ecclesiastic council with a senate of notable people under it. Each member of the council heads the religion of a particular chuuba.
>All chuuba worshipping peoples are pure magic focused, but unlike /jp/ natives they are nowhere as established. Many require slaves and more fertile land to drive their economy and population upkeep.
>Before the big boom in chuuba religion in ~900 BVT. and Empires like Nijisanji and Hololive Global were established, most chuuba worshippers lived as tribals and clans that are loosely associated with each other
> Relationships start to become tense as the empires expand. Occasional slave raids and the growing power of the barbarians are contributing factors
>Hololive Empire was split into two,
>Finally boiled over as the mass of EN barbarians "joined" the Empire
>More so created their own version of the Empire as they settled in the current capital. Still, the central council allowed their goddesses and priests to be represented. And seats in the senate were opened to the barbarian kings.
>The barbarian's numbers and voracity overwhelmed the /jp/ natives. Thier expansion drove many nations to the brink of extinction.
>The activities of the chuuba worshippers also created a disturbance in the magical field of Japonia. Custodians of /jp/ tried their damnest to maintain the field by suppressing chuuba nations.
>Tension within the Holo Empire started to erupt in ~125 BVT. ホロライブ Split from Hololive due to orthodox faction within the Empire unwilling to cede even more power to the now dominant EN faction.
> Finally in 1 BVT, the world splitting even happened. Tried from maintaining the balance of the world from the activities of the chuuba worshippers, the Custodians pleaded for higher powers to create a new world to contain the encroachment of the fabric that holds Japonia together.
>The calamity engulfed the entire world, destroying most manmade structures, notably in lands still inhabited by /jp/ natives witnessed total destruction both to cull the invading worshippers and so it would set back the barbarians and kings of the tribal empire, protecting Japonoia from another invasion.
>Many of the tribal and chuuba worshipping populations were left on the world by the event. Some were displaced thousands of mile from their homeland. The chaos caused the downfall of the Hololive Empire. /jp/ Magic suddenly no longer works, and many of the systems that maintained the Empire was suddenly severed. Many colonies and provinces under the empire declared independence. In places where chuuba worshippers haven't completely colonized the lands, the natives overthrew their oppressors. A general in the /hlg/ capital seized power, "reclaimed" the Hololive Empire and declared himself the Emperor of /hlgg/. While ホロライブ still remained relatively spared from the disaster.

The idea for me is that it expanded to the Western reaches of the continent. Hoshiyomis, a group that settled or are native to what is currently oshiyomia became a pretty central part of the Empire and controls a province. And the Empire gradually expanded up North to the current council nations. (However it probably stoped up to a point, or maybe not, /jp/ is super high fantasy world afterall). Similar to /morig/ Hoshiyomia would gain independence in one way or the other when the world split happened.
it indeed does not exist prior to 499 VTE.

The warring states idea should still work with what I've written so far but I'd also would need to hear more from you about the state of Hoshoyomia between 0-400 VTE.
Here's the passage
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-who-lore-main#archaic-era-history-1-vte-580-vte

>>39389429
There's a million different ways you could go about it, and I'd be up to you to define the core of the magic. Is it a ritual that has to be kept up for the entire duration of the rainfall or a one and done thing? Does it involve sacrifice, human or otherwise? Would there be specific holy sites it would need to be conducted at? Who would conduct it? Can all shamans bring in rain to the same extent, and is it a lone venture or a group effort?

We can help you once you have the rough idea down, but before then it's on you mate. Get them brain juices flowing!

>>39390259
i will just say we draw something in the sands with a stick and it works for now. So we call in rainstorm, what happens next? How does it effect the soil? Can we even call in storms to strike enemies?

Wow... this Kobofag has more braincells than the last

>>39390561
>Can we even call in storms to strike enemies?
We have magic and magic users in this world. Maybe you can have multiple shamans and mages perform a massive spell to summon a rainstorm

>>39390481
>Core of the Magic.
Is that bit about conceptia. I guess our base core is water then.

>>39390770
Low bar to pass desu

>>39389429
https://rentry.org/chuubanite#detailed-rules-for-perfectionists
Here's a tutorial to guide you brainstorming some ideas. Since /kobo/ is a cunny thread the process for summoning rain can be related to ToT-ing. Maybe one of its effects is condensation?

>>39390561
How it effects the soil depends how often it gets called in and how long this has occurred. Like, you can likely have green grassland patches in your nation if you have been calling in rain consistently for a long time and planting things (Keep in mind, this likely kills the desert fauna too.)

My SIMPLE advice:
>1. You cannot use this to turn your entire nation into lush grassland and forests. That's beyond the power of Chuubanite. You cannot call in Hurricanes with it either or regular Monsoon rains.
>2.However, and other can say otherwise. I think the best bet is to call in rains that would allow farms to be very successful from rivers. You can have some parts of your nation lush and stuff.
>3. Once you figure some of those aspects out, I honestly would think about rivers, lakes and oasises a lot too, I can help further. Think Egypt honestly.

>>39390964
That could be one of the concepts that drive the shaman magic, yes. Now think about how you would want to conduct the rituals. I would personally suggest not making it something that can be easily done, as changing the weather is quite a powerful thing, and might raise some eyebrows if just any shaman with a stick and some sand to draw in could do it. That's just me tho, do it how you see fit.
>conceptia
Google tells me Romanian? We got another europoor in here?

Also one more hint;
Chuubanite magic does not break the laws of physics. But it does provide a shortcut/catalyst. For example, you cannot get rid of heat because it's energy. But you can use chuubanite to speed up heat transfer/entropy.

>>39390939
I see, I saw risuners talking about that shit and made me curious. Lightning?
>>39391234
Of course, cunny is love and life ToT. Like can this turn seawater into fresh water even with what you suggested???
>>39391449
>Whole nation
yeah, that would be boring man. I looked into shamanism, and nature is harmony and key so killing local fauna sounds stupid to me. I guess I can get a big river or two, like the ones in iraq even.

Starting to think that it makes sense for this occuring at holy sites in Rain Temples or something. Just seems broken for me to go draw something in the sand somewhere and call shit in. Wonder if I could use this "power" to trade.
>>39391875
No comment on location, Conceptia is the what the chuubanite doc talked about.

>>39391989
Having temples makes this shit a lot easier for me. As cunt said, this isn't something you can just do since it requires power as all chuubanite does. Blowing your figurative load a bunch of times in a year will just use all of the chuubanite. Rivers and lakes are always fun, so you have several potential hotspots for temples. I taking into account wind here when we think of this because its blowing down from the north so any storm will go that direction (Well, most would.) If I can get him, our wonder Mepman can make you a map with these rivers flowing in a specific direction, ideally south west imo given the wind so you can have a fertile crescent.

>>39392560
thanks zec, Kek, our thread does blow its load a lot though so maybe we should be retarded? Anyways, the merakyat can do it if he wants while I think of more shit.

>>39391989
>cunny is love and life ToT
You'd be impress at the lore for /uoh/

>>39392797
How so?

>>39392790
Speaking of me and maps, Moonafic, it's done. I'll work on yours next kobra.

>>39393025
this is it actually, anyways.

>>39390561
there is a chuubanite autist called pg that you should wait on in terms of this stuff because if i understood him correctly calling in massive rainstorms would be on the list of weapons of mass destruction.

>>39394235
Zec and cunt the spacenigger corrected me so its all good

>>39394339
Yeah is fine, personally i think it would be pretty kino but we just had fallout because of chuubanite stuff with a writer still MIA and i rather not have a repeat of it.

>>39394633
It's all cool by me, if he disagrees, then he disagrees man. Is he the most senior person in that field?

>>39394699
Pretty much, yeah.

Preview of Ehe map.

>>39395407
this is why I joined KEK. I have an idea of having smaller ToTs joining into a big one KEK.

>>39395534
Will attempt.

>>39395751
Cunny Lake.

>>39395407
You got the layout for it already, no need to make weird lakes and stuff. Just make a lowland valley for the mouth and have each mountain have a river flowing from if.

>>39396175
Its that or this. Ehe rep can decide.

>>39396295
This.... could be a very interesting lore thing....

>>39396463
I am not sure if it makes sense really kek. Lake cunny is funny but this is beyond our capacities.

>>39397068 (me)
Instead, we will have lake cunny not look like ToT on the map but rather that it is carved into a mountain where waterfalls look like it.

>>39397068
>>39397260
Ok that works for me bro!

>>39397310
yeah, ill get to working more on this tomorrow. Got some things to do now. Enjoy your stay.

>I have seen sapling threads and you in wAIfu. I am familiar with your game.
Oh fuck...they do know.

>>39400339

>>39390283
That's a nice synthesis of our discussions of the subject, good work. Fun fact, according to the timeline, there's about 23 days of likely chaos-filled silence after the split, and Moriji declared independence 3 days after the first sign of life (First reply to >>1).

>>39390283
My story would likely be different since I am HoloJP (am i the only HoloJP rep?!?) so I will need to think more.)

>>39403749 (me)
No, forgot about Candydudes. Anyways, I think there needs to be some reasoning behind locations and all. I am willing to believe that the GP started around the break but our culture likely had the borders i showed but it is disunited.

Probably will also make a crude "Holo Empire" map with my ideas regarding it right now from the JP perspective.

>>39403993
I also could kill Nuefag for HoloJP, ID, and the Council in nonsensical locations compared to their Genmates.

>>39403311
>>39403749
I guess the point of contention is that it is very focused on an english holo fanbase perspective, mainly that of /morig/'s, the experiences for JP fanbases would have most certainly been different.
I haven't really bothered on getting on the discussion, but I do dislike the idea of /vt/'s geology being some copy of that of /jp/'s hypothetical world.
It also sort of dismisses the whole existence of /vy/ as basically pre-/hlg/ "tribals".
I can't really think of any solution or alternate interpretation thought.

>>39404396
I am really trying to think of a way to make sense of this given how ridiculous the map is, hold on hooman. It is from the EN perspective and Morigs but I am trying my best.

Nuefag didn't die for sins, but he died like a coward! Just like his shitty positioning. Anyways, JP ERA map?

>>39404396
Recent events have shown that even today, some tension remains between /jp/ and ホロライブ, even if it still exists there. Though the input of people who were active in ホロライブ back around the time of the split would be welcome.
What would you do instead regarding geology? To be precise, it's not an exact copy, there is some room for changes, stuff being moved around and stuff. "Errors" in the copy, so to speak.
Maybe instead of "tribals" they could be called "decentralized factions", or "city states"? I don't think considering /vy/ a centralized empire is really it either.
>>39404842
I disagree with making this kind of map. The idea of the province system is to give nations the freedom to reposition their nation if they want.
Also, the Nuefag positioning is pretty alright, it takes into consideration many thread relationships. Nuefag love.

>>39404842
It is my personal opinion that Stars and Gen 5 should be where GGG and Amelia Watson general is but this is all probably politics when this thread started. Why Ahoy and Watamelon are down there, who knows??? Who knows why Infinity is on an island far away from the council nations when the Council doesn't get the JP Era scattering excuse.

>>39404974
You must understand that from an old holoJP fan that there is a degree of annoyance at how we have been thrown around like dolls while EN nations got to choose where they wanted to be practically; and how the history doesn't line up at all with what you guys made on our end.

>>39404842
>Imperial Territory
Glad to see to see you support our claim that hlgg is rightfully the Candy Kingdom's. The Hime Vessel is a divine being and thus a more legitimate ruler.

>>39405135
We must unite against EN, Luknight. They dictate our history! No more, JP will rise again!

>>39404987
kronies wanted to be there, simple as

>>39405304
no one should have ever got special treatment, that is the overall point and I tend to agree with Hoshi on this much. Little consideration was given to whether or not shit made any sense.

>>39404842
>SCHIZOS TRIBALS ALL SORTS OF HEATHENS!!!
All me. This version does give me a nice advantage, in that it makes the supposed migration and colonization of the frontier that the Republic commits a bit more flexible. While also having a reason for Hoshiyomia to have trouble expanding to the north (that being the schizos), hell, the Kronies could have a similar story for their own island.
>>39404974
Honestly, I just would not bother with making a /jp/ geology.

>>39404987
Do remember that a lot of things of today weren't that much of a thing, like how JP era would affect the world, back then. Also there was lot of arguing about who should be where and Nuefag stepped in and made a decision so things can finally move on, otherwise it would have gone on forever. Love or hate how he placed stuff but without his placement, things would not have moved as far as it is today.

>>39405117
Some HoloJP nations did get to decide where they would be placed, including Sakuran and suisei, iirc. There are also multiple EN nations that didn't get to choose where they were placed. It just depended on which nations had reps.
Also, what history are you referring to? I don't think any of the details of this ancient history of the HoloEmpire were even discussed until recently.
>>39405378
No one got special treatment, it was just a matter of whether the thread had a rep.

>>39405117
Your old rep decided that location for you, not Nuefag. So if you want to be angry, then be angry at the old rep.

>>39405435
It's mainly placement that annoys my ocd and how the history doesn't seem to make sense of it for me. Let me be a little angry for little reason kek.
>>39405401
Yes, I also think it allows for the cultural things that are cool such as hoshi themed republics leaning towards who in the future. I am just being a goof rn overall kek.

>>39405203
I agree! Deadbeats have resigned themselves to the island and thus respect their ancestors however the rest of EN is guilty to varying degrees! Hime has personally declared Ame an enemy of the state and they are next after House Bitterbread falls!

>>39405401
>>>39404974
>Honestly, I just would not bother with making a /jp/ geology.
I meant to expand on this but I didn't, sorry.
>>39404974
I mean, /hlg/ still exists in /jp/, but it's ultimately out of the scope of this project, as it's one focused on /vt/. I think the idea of a mythical super city could work for /vy/.
>>39405429
I remember nuefag just ignoring me a few times while I was trying to get /who/'s place, I cannot tell you what his process was at all.

>>39405510
I am not actually angry!
>>39405617
Let us forge a Pact of Steel, from which we shall divide the west. Let the nations of the central plain tremble before our combinded might. It is time for the destruction of the HoloEmpire and for the rise of a New Empire, a Dual Monarchy you could even say. TO ARMS!

Hail to the Himedom Hail! Hail to the Comet King!

>>39405980
AVE AVE AVE!!! Unironically what would happen if the Grand Prince married Hime?

ALL OUT WAR LOL anon would be proud. Sorry is is Horus?

>>39405610
I mean if the placement really annoys you so much, then why not use the province system and petition for a new place? It would mean having to rework or redo a bunch of stuff but if that is worth it to you, then i would see no issues with that if it really is that bad for you.
>>39405774
I am not saying it was perfect or he was without fault, but when i see a bunch of people consistently hating on him when they were not even there at the time and don't even know that he is not even behind a good chunk of the placements and did do what reps wanted, then i feel it is a bit unfair towards him.

>>39406060
The Hime Vessel is married to the state, like that one Virgin Queen. We'd need to bind our nations with relatives to the Hime Vessel instead.

>>39406210
Nuefag saved this thread and each shit upon the province system commends his efforts

>>39406222
Very well, let our royal houses marry. I need to go full habsburg first and get Sakuran kek.

Out of pure curiousity, if there was a Sakuran rep, how would we both handle Micomet?
>>39406210
ohhh, man just let me be a little schizo right now. Nothing is wrong overall!

>>39406210
I don't believe the Hoshiyomi is upset about Hoshiyomia's place on the map, rather on how patchwork some of the placements ended up being, in the end, it was a solution to a problem, and now we also have the province system to rectify some of the more questionable placements. It all worked out in the end in my opinion.

>>39405774
>it's ultimately out of the scope of this project
I agree with that, /jp/ is really only relevant as far as it relates to /vt/'s history, I just mentioned current-day /hlg/ to illustrate they butted head with /jp/ as well, though it was still mostly /hlgg/.
There could be a mythical super city, that sounds pretty cool. Given the breadth of chuubas and fanbases /vy/ looked at, I feel like constraining it to only one city might be a bit too limiting though, unless it's truly some kind of country-sized metropolis. I guess with /jp/ tech that could be plausible.
>>39406210
>I am not saying it was perfect or he was without fault, but when i see a bunch of people consistently hating on him when they were not even there at the time and don't even know that he is not even behind a good chunk of the placements and did do what reps wanted, then i feel it is a bit unfair towards him.
Nothing to add, but I agree with this, it bothers me a bit.

>>39406442
Yes, that is more or less my grumbling. I just have no clue what he was thinking sometimes! Ahhh, well what can I do in the end.

>>39406364
There's a sakuran rep but he dips in and out, we'd probably be more diplomatic and get them on board through Pink Womanism and Baby Unity, Miko and Hime get along pretty well from what I've seen.

>>39406364
>ohhh, man just let me be a little schizo right now. Nothing is wrong overall!
I was merely making a suggestion based on what you said, i thought this is a place for discussion. But hey sure, keep going and shitting on a person that is not even here anymore for something that was not even his fault, that surely will make you look like a good person yourself.

>>39406703
>hoshi is clearly not being totally serious.
>anon is upset at this development and wants to encourage others to hate him.

>>39406663
I want a sacred alliance with Migo. It is only just!
>>39406703
Anon please take your outrage elsewhere. I don't hate anyone nor blame him really. It is what it is!

>>39406801
>Nuefag didn't die for sins, but he died like a coward! Just like his shitty positioning.
Is a bit mean spirited, but I think he got the message by now, let's drop it.

>>39406982
>mean
>on 4 channel to someone not even around that represents more of an idea at this point considering NUEFAG DIED FOR OUR SINS was a player on divegrass.
Just in folks, people can be rude on 4chan. More at 11.

>>39406916
attacking /hlgg/ during or soon after the Fall of House Brittlebread would make for a juicy invasion arc. We gotta get /hlgg/ fully situated though

>>39407083
Nice to see that double standards are still in full swing

>>39407214
Yes... yes... we do.

>>39406801
No i am not. If i wanted hate for him then i would not have suggested a solution to what i thought might actually bother him that much.
>>39406916
I merely pointed out that Nuefag was not even responsible for what you vented and offered a solution for what seemed like an issue. You could have simply said that it's fine and thats it, you decided to react butthurt, so sorry if i am not exactly happy about the attitude thrown at me for nothing. Maybe you should next time vent somewhere else if you are that butthurt about people responding to what you write. I didn't even mean ill towards you at all.

>>39407295
you are the moodiest person here by far that constantly has something shitty to say to someone. ive yet to see you contribute anything beyond bitching. fucking kek man, rope yourself.

Abandon drama, let's talk lore kids. ID brothers, where art thou? Candyman what's cooking with you and Hoshi? Let's talk!

>>39407656
Strategic moves, dear Moonafic. What plans do you currently have.

>>39407506
Fuck off schizo, i am not that petty that i will let you actually turn this into shit because besides some unnecessary sass even i understand this was merely a miscommunication and i am tired of you trying to hijack what others said to push your agenda.

Hoshiyomi, just as advice, don't interact with posts that try to "call you out", especially after a discussion is done.

>>39407506
Schizo chama, when are you gonna finish all those dead end convos you ran from?

>>39407817
Well, I finally remembered my idea that I wanted to present. I was thinking of Pan-IDism and perhaps forming an Imperial ID Council where we could plan games and stuff you know.
>>39407898
Wise words, Mr. Owl.

>>39407898
Well let by gone be by gones, I just wanted to let the anon know I wasn't really that serious.
>>39407970
Interesting! Now with Kobobro, you can have this dream come true!

>>39407817
Also at that point, from my side i do apologize. I am not exactly good at reading the room and took your messages more at straight value. I really only wanted to correct a misconception and make a friendly suggestion.

>>39408074
Ah yes, it will be kino writing with all of those dorks. But I am hung up on the squirrels solely because they really don't have a government right now... Perhaps just invite the organized ones?

>>39408143
Apology accepted and I extend one to you as well if I came off as rude or anything. I overall just was using Nuefag as a concept more than anything personally, it isn't that big of a deal to me aside from confusing kek. All good!
>>39408198
Yes yes... seems to be an issue since you cannot invite 1000 representatives from them. I would wait on OG to find out more, if anything just invite the South for now.

>>39404842
>EN invaders
If you know the history of hlgg/hlg you know its not that EN invaded, its that JP-only-fags threw the biggest hissyfit and split themselves (multiple times, once over the mere appearance of orange woman in the OP image, shit was fucking hilarious)
So, Imperial Province, aka, /hlgg/, embraced the EN, while the /hlg/ side rebelled.

>>39408395
Well we will need to fix that now wont we? /hlg/ will rise again!

>>39408463
Good luck trying to salvage that trashfire

>>39408374
Yes that is exactly the problem. Also, slavery will be a striking issue that might result in disaster overall so I need to figure out what's going on more there. The First ID Games will likely not feature the squirrels and I call for it to be held it.... NOVARIA. Yes, my own capital since its my idea.

>>39408395
I remember when Orange woman was the herald of doom, before the Pink board era... These were the worst of times, these were the best- wait, nah, it wasn't the best times kek.

>>39408395
RETURN TO TRADITION, DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR

>>39408584
Can NijiID send people or have a delegation there?

>>39406210
>>39406290
This. Nuefag is still one of the most important contributors in the history of the project, losing only to the main archive anon (bless his soul). Hate directed toward him is most of the time entirely unfounded.

>>39408374
Accepted as well. I am indeed not a writer, but i do enjoy some of the lore discussion being held here and like to participate in it. Even if maybe at times a bit heated, i do not mean any hate towards anyone and i assume there are others like me. I understand that a lot of negatively towards us has become common at his point but the schizo does not speak for us and i hate that he has gotten that much influence, i will try and more actively point out when i stop talking or see him trying to hijack my points since not doing so seems to have let it come to this in the first place.

>>39408685
Yes! I actually planned on it for the games. But not the council, that is just for us! BUT just NijiID. It's sad that the squirrels aren't going to be represented even though they should.
>>39408786
nta obviously but Please do! Being a writer doesn't make us better than anyone imo!

>>39408724
Nuefag saved this general!

>>39408888
Quads of truth
I dont think this projecct would even be alive anymore without him.

>>39408786
Glad! It does get heated and I hate what you speak of too as I think that non-writers are just as important in terms of opinions personally! Please point him out as sometimes its hard to tell the difference (I could with you but not all can.)

>>39408598
It was fun.

>>39408786
<3 It's not your fault!!!

>>39408861
>It's sad that the squirrels aren't going to be represented even though they should.
I mean... I think they could be present if you want. Antique Greeks managed to have games and they were just a collection of gay city states kek.

>>39409030
We "normal" anons are partly at fault, i will admit that much. I would lie that in the past i might not have reacted more loaded than was needed myself because of the perception of every one of us is a schizo when we critique or when the schizo hijacks that you simply get lumped together as him. I also simply gave up in the past once that happened and didn't really call it out before.

>>39409099
Well… the problem is that they are focusing on their interior right now according to OG and i am not sure us having slaves will help matters.

Any meathead tips on describing the act of cannibalism on an unresponsive subject, or ways to make food porn esque writing more flavorful?

>>39409402
Yes, i understand. There is a two way street. On my side for example, it can seem like a mistake results in non stop attacks while you guys get brushed off because of the schizos. We all need to and will be better as a thread I believe!!! I gave up trying to communicate with the thread for a while mainly because anything I did was a timeloop or hatred… so i can relate to you there

What's going on here? What about not inviting squirrels?

>>39409903
Understandable. I will in fact admit that one of the times that you got called respectless was me. At the time you seemed to get more and more aggressive against everyone and seemed to dismiss anything that was said towards you from people that you did not see in a good light yourself. Looking back however, i also understand that you kind of got pushed into that corner and that my own opinion got painted by the schizo himself. I might as well take this opportunity and apologize for that and the needless stress it caused you. Do know that my view has long since changed and that i am also not responsible for all the times that happened. But this more the reason why i don't want to make the life of the schizo easier anymore.

>>39410006
Me btw

>>39410749
Thank you, love and respect!!! I apologize for the times i acted mean and dismissive as well… wasnt right for me to do it regardless. However, in the end though, glad we all are doing better and are making amends!!!
>>39411168
Think it was something about slavery and your interior, Moonafic tell him!!!

>>39411168
By the way, OG would you mind if the Sea Shoggoth fed in the eastern ocean near Risu? I'm thinking that the biggest are in the artic and feed off hidden chuubanite pockets and that the regular ones just feed off sea life in warmer seas.

Mep

I come in a time of great need, /vtwbg/
What music do you reccommend to have in the background while writing?
I feel like I can't focus otherwise

IT G R O W S

>>39414501
I personally enjoy listening to pilotredsun / pilotredsky

>>39414501
For what exactly? I think what works for you depends a lot on what sort of moods and ideas you associate with certain topics. I have a long list of tracks that work for me, but those might not work for you.

>>39414501
Coli Stetson

>>39386521
I’m a fellow koboker, here’s a couple of ideas i can shit out:
>in the early days of /ehe~/ a french ojisan tardwrangled the thread thus making the thread less shitty, worldbuilding-wise maybe he’s some sort of mythical “great unifier” that elevated /ehe~/ out of the dark age?
>religion: pre-/ehe~/ “koboist shamanism” (chaotic barbarians and kobo supremacists) and /ehe~/‘s “reformed koboism” (cunny, less barbaric practices, more tolerant of other faiths)
>invoke cloud imagery in outfits and stuffs (see picrel)

>>39414501
Been listening to this recently, it's pretty good. I also like synthy electronic music with fast beats for fight scenes.
https://youtu.be/olqaqM21Dro

>>39414903
Thanks bro, I forgot about the history when thinking. If you got any other ideas, would love to hear them when i start typing something up tomorrow for us. Our French ojisan will not be forgotten!

I'm home. I tried to get some ingredients for pumpkin soup out of town after my appointment. However the lines in stores were packed wall to wall. Guess I'll brave the blizzard tomorrow.

>>39414501
Dream on, on loop

>>39415287
another idea is to NOT make ojisans/obasans a separate race/species, but instead their own social class or caste (think the rajputs of India)

>>39415287
Pre-/ehe~/ or /aer/ era can also be referred to as “age of ignorance”, maybe this is the time when koboist shamanism followers attacked /warkop/?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyyah

>>39405401
My idea for the history between 0-400 VTE is that after the protectorate set up but the empire collapsed all of its territories split into may different polities. The extent of the Imperial protectorat's control would be around the lower navigable section of the Raika. However I also sort of planned that Svadoha (the settler city) was first established by a group coming from beyond or within the /rrat/ mountains. Since the East is supposed to be semi-pastoral small polities it gives enough of a reason for there to be
underdeveloped before the Republic moved in. You can also sort of see it in the river map. There's a clear divide between the North and the South, by the Raika which is navigable for most of it's length.

>>39404396
Thing is /vy/ also includes a lot of different indies and such. We do have high fantasy for /JP/ which can explain how the chuuba worshippers expanded to different continents and eventually cover the whole planet but having them all coming from a single point might be a but limiting. Which is why I abondoned that and went with the roaming tribes(don't think strictly of tribes, just one way to say smaller less organized societies) idea. Since there are so many groups we need to take into account it's hard. Which is also why I first suggested things to be more mythical when the discussion on pre/vt/ times first happened. /OG/ can serve as a common origin myth however. Again, magic.

>>39418015
For one, one of the things that council splits differ with myth ones is the fact that we never "split" from global, that's the main reason I'm hesitant to have actual "imperial" presence on such a large area. I mean, yes, we do have an immense amount of influence from global, but I think trying to tie it directly to previous global control would miss out on important context.
The migrants however, would be a variety of multiple holo fanbases and outsiders looking for a new life in the frontier, this is where we could gain the necessary cultural context for our relations to the rest of the hololive fanbases.

For /vy/, I really don't see why the large amount of discussion for indies and corpos besides holo (and niji for that matter) would be a problem, hell, that's why the splits happened on the first place, holo discussion overruning all others. Just representing them as vague tribal organizations sort of loses on how the future would go on to be, in my opinion.

>>39414569
Damn, borderless looks too nice.

>>39419486
The protectorate is kind of indirect. It's a very autonomous polity that just hands in tributes and serve as a buffer state. Presumably against schizos further up north (be we don't know if the north was the dumping ground during /JP/ too) Also served as a reason for why they "civilized". In that the influence came in two waves. First was really more so for states to develop and then split again. Then there are like 500 years of history where it's relatively isolated from the outside world besides hoshiyomia and maybe to the Western maritime nations. Second is from the migrants, and that's where all the actual cultural influence from global happened.

Migration we can fit in as both there being previously sparsely populated and wad depopulated by the War.

Maybe. I guess it can be done in parallel. City of /vy/ as common origin of the various faiths.

>>39420471
I guess that, as a buffer state (or states), it could also serve as more of a claim than actual mark of ownership or influence, sort of how the chinese empires paid off the nomads to the north to fuck off.

>>39421318
If you want to set up some sort of modern /who/-/hlgg/ conflict then corpo tribalism could be the thread of it. ("""Unity""" with big quotation marks) The Republic originating from a bunch of rebellious cities that overthrew the Imperial backed government would be an element that cement /hlgg/'s current claim.

And well many of the nomadic people to China's north also sinicized. The process could be more complex than that. But the result would be that the North was left alone until the Council nations were founded. Can be explained by both technology and population movements.

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>>39375209
Is this what you truly desire?

>>39390060
>Would we just draw pentagrams in the sand for rain?
this is why it's important to identify noncanon, and make sure our magic system is actually followed. people get confused with all the "added flavor" and assume that's how things actually work. there is a chuubanite rentry in op, and we just got through discussing how that is not how any of this works, but because there was lore that did not follow those mechanics, there is a way for new people to get confused about the lore.
>>39394235
it would be a wmd if you could just summon a rainstorm anywhere and strike a specific target with lightning or whatever. you could create highly charged smoke that would act like a mini-lightning storm, fit with it's own electromagnetic field, but it wouldn't be anywhere near the power of an actual one, and you can make a passive interaction of the chuubanite be to increase the likelihood of lightning storms in the areas where it is most prevalent (see /morig/ for an example, usually it only really has an effect in it's nation, but we typically explain it as a mini-matter vs antimatter sort of situation, and the nation just happens to coincide with it. see some of the more "quantum mechanics"-like side of chuubanite) and if the region already has a high likelihood of thunderstorms, you can have systems for controlling where lightning strikes, but each of these options will have different weaknesses to work around. luckily, most of them rely on different properties of chuubanite, so you might be able to have all of them function from the same chuubanite, you'd just need to find a way to make it work. for instance, climate is a chaotic system, so dramatic changes can occur seemingly from nowhere.
you can't change the weather in an instant, but you can have chuubanite that makes an area's climate somewhere between 3 or so different possible states (the weather would allow for 3 states, normal, rainstorm, and thunderstorm, lets say, and very small changes in the climate can decide which of those 3 states will be dominant, most likely humidity and charge) so all you need to do is make it so that the effect of a certain chuubanite is to force the climate into one of those 3 states (ie, adding humidity gives dominance to rain/thunder storms, and adding charge gives dominance to thunderstorms/normal) and you could have glyphs that cause things to have a strong negative or positive charge that would allow you to control where the lightning strikes. then maybe you make it so that the chuubanite has a activator substance in the form of water that will create a compact mini-cloud with a strong electrical charge that will slowly dissipate into the wind that allows you to make use of it on a small scale, or outside of the regions that have an abundance of it. the key is that it was already like that before you tried to use the chuubanite to control aspects of it, as a result, you can't really use it elsewhere. if you can control the weather of another nation, you can basically create artificial natural disasters, which would absolutely be a wmd, but having that kind of power over your own area is perfectly fine.

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>>39431707
now that i'm thinking about it, i have a better idea for the mini thunderstorm. chuubanite that naturally comes in the form of water, but that, in the presence of oxygen, creates a strong magnetic field that can absorb nearby energy to 1) heat up the water, turning it into steam, and 2) electrically charge the steam cloud. now imagine i have a pot with a lid on it, and whenever i open the lid, a magnetically contained steam cloud quickly comes out. then, with a staff of some kind with maybe a contained version of the chuubanite on the end (or really, anything else with a magnetic charge i guess), i can direct both the cloud and the electric charge, allowing me to smite someone by touching the end of the staff to them, but it will also strike things passively. the cloud can only exist for so long before it dissipates, either from wind or when the chuubanite runs out, but it exists much longer due to the magnetic field keeping everything together, powered by the chuubanite.
perhaps there could be a way to gather it back before it fully dissipates by bringing the cloud to an area without any oxygen, likely involving very strong magnets and some kind of vacuum, but it might be difficult, especially since water is part oxygen, and electricity can be used to separate that bond, thus causing the chuubanite to produce it's own activator substance, likely releasing energy in a self-perpetuating cycle until it either dissipates, or loses enough energy to keep itself going, sort of like a chemical version of critical mass. the stronger the magnetic field it generates, the more energy will be trapped, the more chemical reactions, the stronger the magnetic field, the more self-sustaining the cloud will be, the more self-perpetuating the cloud will be, the more difficult it will be to halt the reaction. interesting dynamic. make it too weak and it dissipates too soon. make it too powerful and it will have a strong, lasting effect, but it can't be contained before it finishes. make it powerful, but not too powerful, and it might not be all that strong, but you can more efficiently store what you have of it before it dissipates after you are done using it.
if you have better technology, you can make the pot a superconductor with a rmf generator, and you can make the pot magnetically repulsive if you want to expel the cloud, and magnetically attractive if you want to contain the cloud, then it can keep the chuubanite in while trying to create a vacuum by getting rid of all of the non-magnetic air. lets say the staff has a rechargeable battery in it, and circuits through the handle connecting to the tip where the contained chuubanite is, and some mechanism that will change which current is functional, allowing you to either generate or store electricity from the tip. that way you can add more energy to the cloud if you want to use it, and remove energy from the cloud when you want to store it, reducing the likelihood of the self-perpetuating chemical reaction, and making a sort of radiant electricity machine like what tesla wanted, but that never produced enough energy to be viable as a technology.
of course, now that i think of it, i might be retarded. if the magnetic field is sustained by oxygen coming into contact with what is essentially a kind of water, then whose to say it would ever not be activated, and if each interaction strengthens the magnetic field, then the magnetic field would be strengthening and weakening on it's own, so there would never be a situation where the magnetic field would be so strong that the cloud would last until it was dissipated naturally without the ability to halt or contain the cloud at any stage, it just means there is a minimum to the amount of it you would lose every time you used it, even under perfect conditions. if it's a good idea, people will take it and refine it to be more realistic, i would hope.

>>39436410
you know, a lot of the advanced technology stuff could just be done with glyphs, so forget that part of it.

>>39430482
Yes

>>39431707
>>39436410
PG, if this is down to holy sites and can only be done a few times per year (being a collection of ToT unleashed), do you think this is feasible?

>>39437964
depending on how you do it, it might not require even that much. keep in mind that the weather is volatile, but ultimately pretty simple compared to other chaotic systems, so as long as things don't get in your way, you can have a lot of influence over it if conditions allow for it. holy sites might play a role in making sure the local atmosphere is under the right conditions. /morig/ gets it's chuubanite to change the climate via mostly natural processes, but if you have chuubanite that wouldn't otherwise do that, you can have certain locations that take up that role. as for doing it a few times a year, i'd say that 1) you'd probably only need to do it a few times a year, and 2) it depends on how much chuubanite you already have. if it's in low supply, you obviously will have a hard time doing it all that much, so if you really want to restrict the amount of times it can be used, that would be a good way of doing it. if it only effects your own region, i wouldn't call it unbalanced, and there are simple ways to make it work, so it shouldn't be too difficult to do it whenever you want as long as you have the right resources.
>being a collection of ToT unleashed
so do you want it to be a natural process that reflects those kinds of posters irl, or do you want people to be like that in universe, and for that to be an element of some kind of ritual to call forth rain from the heavens or whatever. either could work, maybe it would be the chuubanite-infused tears of those kinds of people that is used for >>39436410 instead of oxygen or water or whatever. ultimately, we can make this kind of interaction in a few ways depending on how you want to represent it, as long as the necessary conditions, as defined by the mechanics of the system, are sufficiently met.

>>39438395
Personally, I just want to get it in a way that makes sense for you and is easy to understand. I assume the rituals themselves would matter a lot and Z did do the weather pattern but the gist is «fertile crescent» region in desert maintained by the use of Rain shamans (not all desert.)
Also want this to turn out well for you given the circumstances of last time :) PG LOVE

I miss hagchad

Moonman, I will lay out some things for you so that you can have Tupai in your plans. They will be from my jurisdiction the south for now since the rest is still organizing but I will give you the South's (aka Joyo Cahya's pov)

>Slavery and the Raids were just part of a great systematic problem. Tribes, largely flips or ayundites, but MAYBE other Risuners sold others into slavery. His outrage has always been more against the system that allowed this to happen rather than the slavers themselves or even those such as yourself who own Risuner slaves. This sound bizarre to some, but the whole issue for him is that this ceases to be a real problem when you remove the tribal system to him. And it has worked in the South. There is a great deal of irony here, but I would argue that a good portion of the slaver tribes were Southerners so he probably has a different POV because of this.
>Joyo Cahya is also a pragmatist (for the most part) diplomatically and would see establishing good relations with the other nations of the ID pantheon as a good thing given the shared faith would build common ties and that I am playing thread meta that we like HoloID.
>There would absolutely under no circumstances be any diplomatic incident generated from this and Joyo Cahya himself would likely attend the games for both PR purposes and for diplomatic purposes. This man is ultimately "wiser than your average squirrel" when it comes to these sorts of things and in all honesty, likely already knows the situation. I can easily think him not even mentioning it at all, but rather potentially being more outraged at verbal abuse thrown not at the slavesuners, but his own boys. It's not his mission to liberate anyone (I am leaning towards him being apathetic since as he has gotten old, some of the more idealistic feelings of him die out.) but these games serve as a prestige moment for his nation and himself.

Tl;Dr, Invite the South you muppet.

>>39438961
Warcuck

>>39439103
Warman is bad, but don't let this distract you from the fact that a french ojisan played a key part in /ehe/ and that there is reason to believe that this french ojisan is our french ojisan.

>>39439164
Half of us are already ojisans that have started a cascading series of events one way or the other.

>>39438683
>want this to turn out well for you given the circumstances of last time
there are two aspects of chuubanite, one that operates kind of like nuclear physics, the other that operates more like quantum mechanics, but relies on a logic that is similar to computer science. you can have more mystical seeming effects by treating the heavenly realm as a realm of pure conceptual energy, and then forcefully creating and maintaining an idea in that realm, with glyphs being the primary method of communicating/programming to this metaphorical quantum computer. when it involves that aspect of our magic system, it requires a lot more complexity to be able to make use of any of it, and a considerable amount of redundancy and ideally absolute precision is highly encouraged. it is also important to regulate it due to the sheer amount of power you could potentially gain from it, but luckily the mechanics required to make use of it at all are typically sufficient to justify any kind of power, and adaptable enough to allow for a higher (though rarely lower) tier of difficulty. when you aren't making use of the heavenly realm concept stuff and are just defining the typical interactions of chuubanite, it is a lot easier to make use of, and a lot easier to balance generally.
>desert maintained by the use of Rain shamans (not all desert.)
that might be a bit harder. deserts rain from time to time, and oases do form, but i don't personally know enough about how they form to tell you if and how you can make them with chuubanite, it might be more complicated than what you could do with just one kind of chuubanite, but that depends on how it works. climatebro, are you around? can you give us a short explanation of how oases work and what conditions are necessary for them to form?

>>39439228
As one myself, this is very much true.

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>>39437489
Behave

>>39440425
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>>39390060
>>39431707
>Would we just draw pentagrams in the sand for rain
Not exactly. Chuubanite magic is objective. You need to tell the magic realm precisely the instructions you want. Subjective matter such as symbolisms, cultural specific taboos, metaphors will result in syntax error. Just write "Condense rain cloud in this location" in your magic symbols.

>>39439230
>deserts.
The aspect here about the soil is this ability over time can turn a land into a grassland with steady upkeep. From my understanding, this is largely concentrated around what is essentially a "Fertile Crescent" type region that can only exist in part because of these rains, thus it would be a mix of chuubanite and general land keeping.

>>39440592
so, the heavenly realm stuff only effects the heavenly realm, ie concepts and chuubanite. "condense rain cloud in this location" wont create a rain cloud in a region all by it's self unless there was chuubanite in the atmosphere. chuubanite is how the conceptual realm can effect the physical realm.

>>39440592
also, you can use artificial glyphs to force connections between concepts, thus allowing for symbolism to a degree, but you would need to maintain it to prevent the artificial concept from being destroyed in the conceptual realm. otherwise, that's pretty much what i said.
>>39440593
pretty sure you are describing an oasis. that's also pretty much what i said.

>>39431707
Attempting to digest PG's raw data

>you can't change the weather in an instant, but you can have chuubanite that makes an area's climate somewhere between 3 or so different possible states (the weather would allow for 3 states, normal, rainstorm, and thunderstorm, lets say, and very small changes in the climate can decide which of those 3 states will be dominant, most likely humidity and charge)
Chuubanite magic does not forcibly change nature and physics; an instant weather change is not possible. What is possible is to alter the conditions that will give way to the desired weather you want. Such as altering the local humidity, air pressure, air charges, and wind direction.

>so all you need to do is make it so that the effect of a certain chuubanite is to force the climate into one of those 3 states (ie, adding humidity gives dominance to rain/thunder storms, and adding charge gives dominance to thunderstorms/normal) and you could have glyphs that cause things to have a strong negative or positive charge that would allow you to control where the lightning strikes.
You can alter the conditions of a region into giving way for a thunderstorm to spawn. Using extreme humidity control and pressure alterations as the seeds. Then use chuubanite glyphs to send instructions on where do you want the positive/negative charges to be for a lightning strike to occur.

>then maybe you make it so that the chuubanite has a activator substance in the form of water that will create a compact mini-cloud with a strong electrical charge that will slowly dissipate into the wind that allows you to make use of it on a small scale, or outside of the regions that have an abundance of it. the key is that it was already like that before you tried to use the chuubanite to control aspects of it, as a result, you can't really use it elsewhere. if you can control the weather of another nation, you can basically create artificial natural disasters, which would absolutely be a wmd, but having that kind of power over your own area is perfectly fine.
A way of controlling the weather of foreign lands is to seed the air/atmosphere with water-soluble/activated chuubanite. That way the clouds are filled with magic that you can send instructions to using glyphs. A perfect way of using this is create a compact cloud with strong charges as an activator seed and have it infect the local atmosphere elsewhere. Allowing you to temporarily control the weather over that region.

>>39441300
>>39441412
Sorry. I got 'heavenly' and 'conceptual' realms mixed up.

>>39439230
>>39440593
I sense I am summoned, so hello.
Regarding oases, they are basically outcrops of groundwater flows that extrude from the surface, usually in the form of underground rivers being elevated by the terrain. The water ultimately comes from the sky (as most non-ice freshwater sources are), so theoretically magic that can manipulate rainfall patterns could replenish the aquifers would be able to raise the water table and create/maintain oases across the land.
As for transforming deserts into vegetated land, you will want to have some ways to keep the land somewhat wet throughout the year, as that is necessary for grass to cover the surface and keep it from getting too hot (it is a positive feedback loop that likely led to the end of the Sahara green period). It is something that can be maintained through land keeping, but you will still need a certain amount of water in the system (and/or means to keep evaporation low) for grass to keep growing. In (eastern) fertile crescent, this is helped by the Tigris and the Euphrates which also helped introducing organic matter and silts from the Anatonian highland as sand is pretty bad at keeping water within itself.
I think /ehe~/ does have a similar enough hydrology that can be used for that purpose (see the coastal Levant for a RL example), especially if it is enhanced through supernatural means. Having arid biomes further away would also help the development of drought-resistant plants that can help the initial development of local civilisations.

>>39441412
>Oasis
Not quite.

I am referring to the Fertile Crescent since they will have basically what the tigris and euphrates are irl. See Iraq's climate which can help you see what I am talking about better perhaps.
>>39441486
Yeah, which is why I believe it should be concentrated along the rivers to help with the mountain range which as of now will dry it out even more.

Hold on
If chuubanite glyph is a programming language
That means artificial glyphs are like objects in programming. Where you can define its nature, composition, mechanics, sub-instructions all packaged neatly in one 'object'.

>>39441658
motherfucker you just made everything so much easier for me!

Take Back /HLGG/! The Holo Empire belongs to the /jp/s! Down with the Emperor!
/HLGG/ WILL FALL! It is only a matter of time and who will be the ones to set foot on the soil, I call to all HoloJP's to aid in the reclamation of our holy land from the hands of the newfag imperial larper, who neither remembers nor was there to aid the great dragon Coco in her war to save the Holo Lands from the wrath of the loathsome bug menace and the Judas of the eternal winter, Artia!
I post Roboco's divine and shiny ass as a call to action, aid us in our conquest and take back what's rightfully yours, /hlgg/ will be governed not by a false divinity but by its rightful leaders united to preserve primeval tradition! If you sympathize with this great cause, asspost in solidarity for what rightfully belongs to you!

>>39441658
ya, pretty much. didn't me and /meat/bro talk about this some time ago? the whole conceptual realm pretty much operates like a computer. the problem is that it takes a lot to make a concept mean something. you can't just draw a picture and say it means something, you have to figure out a way to make an artificial glyph synonymous with what it's supposed to represent, which is different for every concept you could think of representing. there can't be any ambiguity, which is why it requires a high amount of redundancy.
>>39441442
>I got 'heavenly' and 'conceptual' realms mixed up.
desu, i always used them as meaning the exact same thing, but with slightly different contexts.
>>39441486
>you will still need a certain amount of water in the system (and/or means to keep evaporation low
what method do you think would most help in achieving the desires as stated here: >>39441601?

>>39442552
Yeah it's me. That time was me realising that the conceptual realm and glyphs act like client-server.
Now I am realising that artificial glyphs are like objects. So this will make writing magical application much more easy.

>>39442552
Well, barring direct manipulation of rainfall patterns, the most likely option would be water from the mountains (both overground as rivers or underground as aquifers). If /ehe~/ is into spec bio then they could also help reduce soil water loss and/or draw water from deeper aquifers. In the south, aquifer might also spread from the wetter /mhm/ which can be exploited as well (as in that period the idea of aquifers likely were not well-understood enough to cause diplomatic tension with tricks like that).

>>39442720
so basically the main method of achieving their intended effect is by adding water to the system, but you also said you could reduce the evaporation of water in a region. do you think chuubanite could be used to do that?

>>39443289
Possibly given that /ehe~/'s chuubanite effect is related to water manipulation. Spec bio could also help reduce water loss by capturing water before they evaporate and releasing them slowly (somewhat similar to cacti). Plants themselves are also better at reducing ground temperature than bare rocks and sand.

Also, this is my speculation.
I believe that the spring/oasis that provides /ehe/'s blessed water is a Catalog output port. Similarly to the Corpse of Monoe. But it spits out water instead.
This phenomenon represents how /ehe/ has heavy user traffic.

>>39442640
i thought that was something we specifically discussed back then, seemed a bit obvious from how we were thinking about it at least. so what kind of programming language do you think our system currently works the most like? we can use it as inspiration for what else we can do in the future.
>>39443405
for some reason, this makes me think of stillsuits
>>39443584
cool idea, but how would it make sure it only spits out water? what causes it to attract water in the first place without magnetism? you could say it's some kind of conceptual energy, but it might be easier to not encourage that kind of solution unless necessary, otherwise you'll get instances where people will just say "a portal to the catalog is what supplies us with all of our important resources" which cannot work as far as logistics goes, and might be overpowered otherwise.

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>>39443942
Well the magnetism phenomenon that gave birth to the Corpse is because of Monoe's 'concept' as a magnet chuuba.
With Kobo being a water chuuba, her concept would result in something other than magnetism.

>>39375197
place under treaties.
https://rentry.org/3ffon
Warning to the autists, Warsuner has the lore control over this, not us. This is just a formalized treaty.

>>39447100
their concept is magnetism, so metal things are pulled towards it in the catalog. is there any reason for there to be anything like that for any other concept?

>>39440425
MORE!

>>39447363
It could be like an artefact/scar from any major yab. The huge amount of vitubium concentration from so many posters spamming the catalog is what caused such phenomenon.
Monoe's death/graduation caused the valley of magnetism
Other examples would be
Kobo Spring = The Kobo Incident/Uoh Concentration
RuMiNa = Rushia to Mikeneko revive

>>39448103
that at least makes a bit more sense. i just don't personally want us to rely too heavily on that sort of thing. wasn't the catalog described as feeling like a sea of sorts? how would water transfer from the catalog to this scar? if it's the catalog itself, the answer is no. infinite water in a desert makes no sense at all. desu, why the scar would be there of all places is worth some consideration as well. maybe /meat/bro and that one lunato he spoke to can help a bit here.

>>39448495
>like a sea of sorts
A sea of hopium/copium. Not actual water.
Also, I am /meat/bro. Haha.

>>39448729
so what is the composition of hopium/copium? also, hello, didn't know it was you. sorry about that. are there ways to prevent this kind of stuff from getting out of hand? we wanted to avoid too much stuff like teleportation and what not ideally, even though we ended up getting some of that in the end. it's still possible, but i don't feel like i understand it enough to be able to come up with those kinds of things on my own.

>>39448968
I do agree it should be a teleportation that provides with unlimited water.
My safest bet is that beneath the aquifer that provided the /ehe/ water source is a port to the catalog.
So it is not unlimited water, but a steady source of vitubium that irradiates their naturally sourced water.

>>39449246
>it should not be a teleportation that provides with unlimited water.
Sorry. Messed up a sentence

>>39449246
>irradiates their naturally sourced water.
how does this benefit them? what end is this meant to achieve? is it a one way portal?

>>39449914
>how does this benefit them? what end is this meant to achieve?
It's a way to explain how /ehe/ gets access to chuubanite water that they used for their rain spells and daily life.
>is it a one way portal?
Yes. Similarly to the Corpse.

>>39449969
you said it was a port to the catalog, for some reason i felt like that implied it was either from the normal-space, to the catalog, or between normal-space and the catalog. forgive my misunderstanding. was it vitubium or vitium or whatever the other similar name was that had the ability to empower chuubanite, also, does this mean we have a potentially infinite source of chuubanite/whatever powers it? is that something we should be cautious of?

reminder to have sex with squirrels

>>39450251
Vitubium is the particle that carries conceptual energy
Chuubanite is the material that accepts vitubium regardless what they are (water, flesh, metal, stone, etc)
Infinitely sourced? In theory.
But just like the Mount Mori and our dumping of sacrificial blood into the Blood River, it will naturally dissipate into the environment in the form of radiation or consumed by other living creatures. So even if the rain shamans utilise them in their rituals, most of the water would have lost their vitubium over time.

>/vtwbg/ when chuubanite discussion

>>39450482
ya, thanks for jogging my memory. maybe we could have it so that this is one of the kinds of chuubanite that lasts longer, and that can more easily become other kinds of chuubanite, especially since this seems like the kind of chuubanite that would get caught up in natural processes and be brought anywhere else in the world, allowing for the indefinite supply of an otherwise non-renewable resource. otherwise, the two options would either be that they become overpowered with their infinite chuubanite as the rest of the world slowly loses chuubanite, either giving them military dominance, or market dominance by having a sort of monopoly over the stuff at some point, or they become the saudi arabia of our setting, and everyone invades and goes to war with them to take over their natural resources, and corruption becomes a near certainty. (or everywhere else gets their own portal to the catalog, in which case chuubanite is a renewable resource i guess) what are the conditions that have to be met for any given area to get a portal like this? what are the limitations? is there a way to encourage or discourage, or maybe even create or destroy portals anywhere you want? could it be thought of in the same way as catalognaughts? could it perhaps even be the same thing as catalognaughts, given the similarities? what ruleset should we use when thinking about this stuff?

>>39450339
alice is fleecing you.

>>39450339
this is all this nigger thinks of while his nation is fucked. fitting.

Feeling sick today, so no lore from me. :(

>>39451183
>what are the conditions that have to be met for any given area to get a portal like this?
My proposal is that any major catalog-wide incident would create these 'scars'. From graduations to drama. Most importantly, incidents that result in massive numbers of posters, traffic, and chaos.
Maybe the 'Cold Hole' is also one example? Caused by the reveal of /mans/ and sending the board into a frenzy. The result of all those emotions and warping of the local noosphere.
/clg/-/aeg/ should have their own recently thanks to the Vera Vee fiasco.
/nenmen/ have one recently with the death of Yugo.

>what are the limitations? is there a way to encourage or discourage, or maybe even create or destroy portals anywhere you want?
Perhaps not EVERY yab results in such scars. Maybe it has to be a unique one-of-a-kind scenario. If every major yab incident creates a scar, then the Holo demography would have a monopoly of yab scars. /ggg/ would spawn one weekly from the constant 'no stream' drama.
Have not thought about destroying such phenomenon. Maybe it is possible. But I need the opinions of others.

>could it be thought of in the same way as catalognaughts? could it perhaps even be the same thing as catalognaughts, given the similarities?
Perhaps it is. Both are vomiting out substances from the Catalog.
The differences is that these 'scars' are also portals. Able to vomit out physical items that were sent to the Catalog that matches the concept.
The Corpse of Monoe derives from the magnet concept, attracts metal sent to the Catalog.
The huge reservoir of hopium under /mans/ is due to Mag having hopium in his lore.
Whatever scar in /RuMiNa/ should in theory spit out bones.

>what ruleset should we use when thinking about this stuff?
It's a train of thought at the moment. Until more feedbacks and additions are given this idea is up in the air.

>>39451498
OG is a puppet of warsuner and lolis. He wants to cum to anons more than lead a nation.

>>39451542
Hope you feel better soon!

>>39451542
Gws kobra!

>visits /vtwbg/ once
>gets sick
It's a rite of passage. We've all been there

>>39447251
OG look this over tard

>>39451797
>Maybe it has to be a unique one-of-a-kind scenario
has there ever been a yab like the stapler incident? just asking. desu, i think, at the very least, the power of the portal should decrease as the yab gets less coverage. with that said, it might be a bad idea to completely stop it if it becomes an important factor in a certain nation's lore. now we can argue that bait threads can have an influence on this setting. with that said, we definitely need more rules to limit how prevalent this kind of thing is. we can think about it later i suppose.

>>39451818
Based ngl.

>>39451818
Damn, OG has it good.

>>39450858
Is this what meatbro looks like irl?

>>39454179
This is him.

new bread doko?

>>39454541
Bitch thats Vnugget!

>>39454541
Good rrat, I approve.

>>39454541
ToT meatbro

>>39454708
>>39454541
Sorry to crush your fantasy but I do not have the slightest taint of feminity on me. My shoulders and general physique are broad from my childhood martial arts.

>>39454899
based, i did martial arts as a child, too!

>>39454541
Actually dragoon

>>39454899
>guy who enjoys ryona and guro does martial arts
Of course

>>39454541
ToT meatbro's boipuss.

>>39438961
You're invited.