/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>39178348
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/filename/1669528624502765.png/
nice try falseflagger-kun

GRIM

>>39178487
Recent clip numbers
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>>39128793

What was this thread like 1 year ago

>>39178542
KEK

why doesn't Kronii like big number? why does she debuff herself?

>only 5min previews
Actual jews

Number (old) news: Oceane broke 800ccv in her unarchived karaoke. She will soon become a 4view.

This is what happened when HoloEN ceded ground time and time again.

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_en/status/1604325583344762880

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>110,266: Pekora (Hololive)
>53,248: Towa (Hololive)
>41,901: Miko (Hololive)
>30,850: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,394: Beni (VSPO)
>25,571: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,735: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,543: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>17,472: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,472: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,359: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,985: Sumire (VSPO)
>14,015: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,117: Shion (Hololive)
>12,831: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,239: Mio (Hololive)
>11,972: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,883: Ito Life (Indie)
>11,642: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,647: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,566: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,449: Tamaki (Noripro)
>10,200: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,132: Salome (Nijisanji)

>>39178542
The first one is me and I was being 100% serious, but that other anon can go fuck himself

>>39178620
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Mio, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
231x: Hololive
108x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39178567
exact a year ago? well something like this. picrel 2021/12/19

UMG's production value is better than Cover's ngl

>>39178618
Thanks Amoeba.

>People thought Vesper yab would kill the Stars branch.
>hes back and not only that, heres 4 more studs your oshi will jump to collab with :)
>no EN3 in sight
lol dark day for holobronies

>>39178567
Ccvid mindbreak

clock tits is down to mori tier numbers very grim

>>39178676
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
230x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
14x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>Native level

If someone is a girl with a good voice who can stream consistently and resist the incredible temptation to talk to men for 2 hours a day, it’s a wonderful time to try to become a vtuber. Hololive is giving away free audience!

>Your wish for more EN streams has been granted.

Not even gonna watch their debut. I don't want them to think this is a good idea

>>39178790
>holobronies

This Mori concert is really good but it probably should have been free. Would have had a lot more eyes on it and it would have improved mindchair. I guess those are the pitfalls of working with a company like Universal.

>>39178751
Now if they could actually market for shit and stop dropping song mvs randimly at night. But i think they care more about apple and spotify than youtube which not sure if its worth but whatever

>>39178567
Sick of pokemon bdsp

>>39178751
You call this good?

>>39178751
I don't like that model at all, reminds me to the disgusting Bilibili models

They read reddit and saw that they complained about not having enough streams and they also saw that they didn't want EN3 so they are now focusing on Stars. Reddit loves the Homos.

>>39178596
People dont have the balls to tell her this game suck

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>12/17 DAILY TALLY
17,543: Mysta (Nijisanji)
9,069: Baelz (Hololive)
8,230: Pomu (Nijisanji)
6,518: Mumei (Hololive)
5,762: Luca (Nijisanji)
5,500: Discount Vox (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Return Stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,263 (Simulacra)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,166 (1 Million Subscribers Endurance)
15. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 30,277 (Quick talk)
16. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 21,769 (Debut Karaoke)
17. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 17,543 (HANDCAM)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 11
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Mysta
3x: Gura
2x: IRyS, Meloco
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Fungus

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
31p: Mysta
19p: Fauna
18p: Gura
11p: Meloco
10p: IRyS
9p: Mumei
8p: Hex, Fungus
5p: Selen, Maria
4p: Mori, Kronii
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver, Millie, Baelz
2p: Vox
1p: Petra, Shu, Pippa, Pomu

>>39178927
>Cherry picked screencap
It looks a lot better in motion.

I guess homo en made money??? Unless yagoo a real benevolent guy towards the homos.

>>39178927
Her model is shit but the effects and camera direction are great imo

>>39178842
>Japanese on a native level
>English on a business level
AHAHAHAHAHA

holo gold contenders

>18 Suisei new outfit
>19 NePoRaBo 2nd anniversary
>22 Lui hostclub, Watame announcement reverse totsu
>26 Holoearth concert
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>19 1st gen 3D karaoke offcollab
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>23 Kohaku Todo 3D debut
>25 SMC live
>27 Nornis 3D live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39179010
A group of 8 people is preferable than 4.

>>39179040
Nijisanji here we come

>>39179010
I genuinely don't think vtubers costs that much to manage the only investment they have to do is the models and the phones.

>>39179040
I hope they debut a turbo-ESL

>>39179081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hRHnrSnOI

>>39179010
Anon, even the flop Niji waves make money. Vtubers don't need much past the initial investment.
The question is one of opportunity cost.
Honestly I don't think more Homos is a bad idea since it means they can collab more with themselves instead of the girls. But another new gen of girls is absolutely needed now.

>>39179005
I mean you can pick another parts and it still looks the same shit

>>39178842
No yugo in StarsEn2...

>>39179040
they only want japanese people now =that vesper shouted at management calling them niggerfaggots

>>39179010
There no data to back that yet.

>>39179149
Pretty nuch this. Get 2 gens if homis no issue.
But the girls need new blood

>>39178842
>*If you meet at least one of the following criteria, it will be a big plus. YOU CAN STILL APPLY EVEN IF YOU DO NOT MEET ANY
>Ability to speak Japanese on a native level, and English or any other language on a business level
So, you don't need to speak any language to join StarsEN? Can a disabled ameba with Down apply for?

>>39179098
>Models: $40k
>Stream assets: $10k
>Talent salaries: $8k per month
>Irreparable brand damage: Priceless

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>39179010
It might surprise you but even StarsJP made money. Heck even the absolute runt of HoloJP, Roboco, can buy a fucking house.

>>39178927

>>39178842
this reads as direct offer to Yugo kek

>>39179236
>8k per month
Im sure they pay minimum wage plus google/merch money

>>39178842
>>39179040
Doesn't Yugo pretty much meet all of these requirements? Come home, Yugo.

Fuck. I thought this was doggy god Street and got exited

>>39179177
she will find success if she enters EN 3 and writes down her goal as "want to be a male"

>>39179318
Yugo wouldn't be accepted cause she stirred shit even within Niji's lax management.

>>39179010
It doesn't matter if they made money or not, it's clear that holostars is a pet project of Yagoo ie: High management, you saw how they tried that not overlapping events strategy.
With the EN homos dwarfing JP they probably feel like it's now or never to make the final push to try to make them as successful as possible.

>>39179273
No way that happens.
But it will be hell on earth on this board if it did

>>39179236
You got all of them EXTREMELY wrong

im done with vtubers and /vt/ , time to back to /jp/

>>39178842
Yugo it's time

>>39179237
Cover wants to sabotage EN

>>39178842
>>39179040
they should start hiring male managers jeseas tranny/fem managers are a mistake.

>>39179010
Third-world indo g branch still exist, yagoo is just too kind

>>39179394
I agree they don't want to see EN outshine JP afterall.

>>39179367
>Niji's lax management
Says you.

>>39179394
Two years late but I'll take it.

>>39179381
Yeah well I was just making a Mastercard joke. But if you have good numbers for those do tell, I’m interested

>>39179394
reminder that EN management has actual niji sympathizers who hire the same people for their project as anycolor

https://twitter.com/Yugo_Asuma/status/1604334219693391872

>>39179237
Despite all the doomposting and shitposting, Mori is still THE most successful music related vtuber

>>39179557
>who hire the same people for their project as anycolor
Just like JP?

Funny that they made a giveaway event on holoproen twitter then suddenly this homo audition announcement.
I guess they really need to do everything for the homos.

Current EN numbers

>scrolling through twitter
>You might like this:
>a bunch of kiara tweets that are MEMEMEMEME I'M SICK I'M SICK I'M SICK I'M SICK WOE IS ME WOE IS ME WOE IS ME
I'm glad to see she hasn't changed one fucking bit since debut.

>no encore
it's sankisei live all over again...

>>39179557
Proof?

>>39179579
kek
They should really check the requirements

This means that EN3 is ready and on stand by, right? Because they never tweeted anything about female auditions since they made it permanent. They're just waiting for the right time to debut them.

wtf that was a short concert.

>>39179767
in the worms tournament one of the homos got a discord message notification from one of the niji song producers

>holofags still seething about Tempus
>making up numbers trying to paint them as a failure
>get slapped in the face with a new auditions announcement

Priceless.

>>39179778
Cover should really be canceled if they don't hire Yugo for StarsEN2. Are they saying that she doesn't count as a man?

>>39179839
How long?

>>39179879
only 30mins kek

>>39179778

>>39179847
Go back to /Nijien/

>>39179822
lemao
When was the last time they tweeted about EN3 auditions? When they updated the auditions with the contract blurb?

>>39179822
They will debut them over christmas so they're starting with a busted kneecap

>>39179903
That's even shorter than Suisei's MGO concert

>>39179725
Its becoming harder and harder to tell the difference between HoloEN and NijiEN

>>39179737
Speaking of Kiara
Holy numbers

from mori live
>activ8

>>39179822
"No." Auditions were reset after the Sana debacle.

>>39179924
They never tweeted about JP's audition as well. Suddenly boom new gen will debut today.

>>39179841
>freelance producer

>>39179778
Do it, Cover. Hire a proper retarded ESL menhara for the boys. No, iwys and/or Axel don't count.

>>39179841
Didn't we already go over this? It's some guy who made the music op for one of his videos. Magni probably hired him himself with his PL connections.
This is like complaining about people using kanauru because he makes Niji stuff. They're just mercenaries.

>>39179977
She's inclining hard right now. She's having the "subaru incline" phase

>>39179977
lol the fuck

grim bros?

>>39180003
I thought activ8 was supposed to be kill?

EN3 isn't coming. They aren't doing an EN3. There has never been any hint that they're doing an EN3.

>>39180026
Axel isn't menhera tho? He just doesn't have a filter

Hoomans explain!

After the homo announcement, EN3 is definitely january bound because to wait after holofes is too long and they need somebody to do a watchalong.

EN3>JP7>ID4>ENSTAR2

>>39180017
EN management aren't as intelligent though. Guarantee you EN3 will be another relay and teased a month before they actually debut.

>>39179977
People always panic when they see a black background but it's the white background what they should be afraid of

>>39179841
>complaining about freelancer
Come on anon. Freelancers can work with whatever they want.
>>39180003
It seems they are the people to go for 3D lives. I think Suisei's and Okayu's also use activ8.

>>39180096
She's a furry

>>39179737
I forgive her. She’s late to the holosickness meta. At least it forced her to change her voice

>>39180086
nah, they're still producing that kizuna ai anime
i guess their 3d studio is free to rent out now

>>39179921
go back to whatever shithole you came from

>>39179847
Take your time

>>39180106
Designate someone from Council to do a watch along of the NYE concert and then EN3 for Holofes 4

>>39180085
diabolically grim

>>39180112
You aren't excited for 3 lore teasers before the actual announcement? Fine you ungrateful cunt, EN3 will be replaced by the next Stars group.

>>39180182
At least i live in california not like you, pagpag eater.

>>39180003
Well, they still have one of the best 3D studio despite what happened to AI

How long does it take from auditions to debut?
I hope StarsEN2 debuts early Summer.

I am looking forward to it.

I'm starting to think EN3 is a scam just like the vshojo auditions...

Are you guys happy kronii is back?

What if they can't get any good applicants and debut four limp-dick boring dweebs? I think that would be far worse than no gen at all

>>39180106
Theres T3MPUS though for the watchalong

>>39180106
Last time they announced the Homo, a Homo gen came right after. January is StarEn2, need more blood for the 8k box.

>>39180268
after holofes 4

I'm kinda expecting there will be something like "which branch you auditioned to?" on the form but nah, this is literally just the same form kek

>Reddit finally complains about EN needing reinforcements
>StarEN2 auditions immediately announced
.....

>>39180306
Very happy. Not watching her seizure inducing stream tho.

>>39180268
It's clear by now there isn't really a set time anymore since apparently Tempus was rushed out before EN3 even though girls audition was made before the Homos.

>>39180106
They need someone to cover the watch along on both JP and EN sides. Hololive doesn't have much going on between Jan - Mar when everyone is prepping for Holofest, so that's the only time you can debut a new gen. I don't think even Yagoo is stupid enough to let only the Homos do Holofest watch along.

>>39180130
Yup. Just look at how many people flipped out at Ame’s announcement stream. They seriously thought she was gonna graduate or some shit

>>39180253
That lore shit is the worst, people got tired of it when they spread it out over a month for Council.

>>39180344
honestly just giving the boys 4 bodies to collab with instead of bothering the girls is probably worth it even if they're relatively milquetoast

>>39180344
I hope they pull a Yugo and just debut 4 girls

Lack of streams + a demoralised fanbase. I wonder if any of these smaller corpos will try to convert viewers.

All the doomposting about HoloEN is funny when they are still more popular than NijiEN , even in SEA where Hololive got invited to more cons than Nijisanji.
Why are you doing this?

>>39180003
>tsurumizu
isn't that the frog? he moved to activ8?

>>39180396
There's still ID3 anon. Or are they in fes 4 too?

>>39180455
>when they are still more popular than NijiEN
Check the cripple gold tally

>>39180396
Did StarsJP do a holofes watchalong? I wonder if they'll actually have tempus do it.
I mean, these dudes don't even say the words "Gawr Gura" on stream, right, how can they actually talk about her number in a concert

>>39180380
because reddit also said they don't need another girl gen

>>39180504
Oga did one

>>39180493
>touristsanji getting tourists on shit like handcams and karaokes
Eh

what is the best POV for watching Nijisanji Mario Kart tournament? preferably the winning candidate POV, thank in advance nijifriends

>>39178927
Have you look at Mori back in 3rdFes?

>>39180489
They're not.

>>39180493
Cripple gold or being invited to reql life events?
Where are your NijiEN AFA and Comic Fiesta appearance? Or Anime Expo, CRX and Anime NYC spots?

>>39180549
Kuzuha always wins the big events right?

EN3 announcement tomorrow, yea?

>>39180493
Take your time.

>>39180549
Isn't it just the main POV?

>>39180519
We don't.

>>39180601
That's not fair anon, do you know how hard it is to get out of China right now? Of course there's no demand for NijiEN physical events

>>39180615
>Sunday night
You wish

>>39180549
Just watch the main channel.

>>39180614
holoseethe

>>39180504
ougaman

>>39180714
Fuck off nijinigger. Dont you have livers to harass?

>>39180504
Oga did and they can choose to do a watchalong if they wanted

Kek they probably want to sabotage HoloEN so bad as to bring them into the same level as Tempus. You can't be bunch of failures when everyone else are the same failures.

>>39180106
JP7 january - watchalong holofes JP side
tempus / anti idol holoEN (mori, bae, kronii, etc) - watchalong holofes EN side
>ID3 - watchalong holofes ID side

>>39180775
VESPER PLEASE COLLAB WITH KRONII SHE NEEDS THE NUMBERS
SAVE HER!

>>39180753
you are literally throwing shit and insulting Nijisanji members all the time
this is know as the dedicated Nijisanji anti thread in the board and yet you keep spouting all that shit?

please, improve yourself

>>39180848
Take your time

>>39180775
it's nice to see Kronii happy with Vesper

>>39180601
Nijisanji were at most of those events. google it retard. besides even going down that road of trying to numberfag events is fucking sad lol

>>39180677
Monday morning JP

>>39180775
Pretty good numbers for Antichamber part 2

>>39178487
Rolafag is that you?

>>39180601
>NijiEN AFA
Fungus was there

>>39180848
>dedicated Nijisanji anti thread
there's quite a few people in this thread who watch nijis (mostly just the girls)
most people here just prefer holos

>>39180775
their numbers are collabing too

>Roughly 1,300 x 2 + 1,100 for 3/4 of Tempus streaming at the same time
>Ceiling for their full gen collabs in 8k
In conclusion, Vesper has literally MORE THAN HALF all of their pull combined. The new gen is going to tear this to shreds.

>>39180848
This is the most objective and rational thread on the board. We're a marketplace of ideas where great minds converge to talk about our beloved hobby.

>>39180919
>trying to numberfag events is fucking sad
Funny considering your fellow nijinigs were the first ones to do it.
That was how we got the mindchair meme, after all.

>>39180832
Apparently Cover doesn't have enough manpower to debut EN3, but they have enough manpower to debut StarsEN2. The absolute state.

>>39180941
With Ame moving to superchats she's essentially the only one in the branch with a stream going on, if she doesn't get 5k that's still gonna look bad

>>39180919
You realize Ina got put in TWO of those fucking articles right?

>>39181019
THOUSANDS OF VIEWS

T3MPUS is HoloEN3.
What will EN4 be called? B4LLS?

>>39180519
Reddit don't even watch stream, that's why they have no preference. I could understand if this was 2020 reddit where EN+JP+ID watchers were yet to be just mythical beings, but foogt over there know jack shit about JP.

>>39180941
Any HoloEN member not named Kiara that's not even getting 5k on non-SC reading stream will never be "pretty good".

>>39181019
So basically the same as EN with Gura?

>>39180493
Anon, they're giving you guys your Christmas present
Don't make them change their mind

If you keep replying to them, you are part of the problem too

>>39181116
most of the "oldfags" from back then are exclusively discord users now or moved on.

>>39181124
Yeah Vesper is the Gura of Holostars.

Tone deaf
>tone deaf
Tone deaf
>tone deaf
Why is EN management like this

>>39181083
H-HoloP4ntheon?

>>39181116
I mean, this board don't either, but we don't see people throwing hissy fits

>Fauna actually still fucking ticked
Bae...

>>39181028
>>39181058
man its sad seeing how far you guys have fallen. the once proud Holobronies in their untouchable ivory towers now reduced to arguing over scraps while NijiKINGS ascend. its almost depressing to see.

>>39181123
Antichamber part 2 is a worse debuff than an SC reading

>>39181123
Or mumei, kronii, ame, mori or bae

Oh this dramafag is just straight up doxxing Yugo now
Can Anycolor do anything about it?

>>39181083
F4te

>>39181187
They already got all the members of EN3; they will debut next month.
They havent gotten enough candidates for StarsEN2.

>>39181214
Kek I remember when Bae absolutely refused to be the runt of the gen. Guess she's relented now.

>>39181260
Yugo isnt under Anycolor any longer

>>39181260
>Can Anycolor do anything about it?
Why should they? They already fired the girl

>>39181260
Yugo probably signed an NDA, but this guy didn't.
Unless he's in Japan with their bizarro laws, you're allowed to talk about stuff corporations would rathe you didn't

>>39181255
>>39181241
I didn't stutter

>>39181260
>Can Anycolor do anything about it?
WILL Anycolor do anything about it? No.

>>39181290
Streams as much as Ame and does a lot of buff content in a good time slot. Just naturally unlikable I guess.

HoloEN is a sinking ship they don't trust their own winning formula.

>>39181218
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/filename/1649815652630.jpg/
quiet false flagger-kun

>>39181260
>Can Anycolor do anything about it?
No
>Would they if they could?
No

>>39178842
Wouldn't surprise me if the data shows that most of HomEN's fanbase is SEA, which is making them realize that ESL-level English is good enough.

>>39181391
Guess they got spooked from Luxiem kek.

>not even 3k on new MV

>>39181260
nope, hes Yugone now. so, it does not matter anymore.

>>39181290
Bae mentioned in a members only stream before that she tried to be a numberfag for a while but it didn't really get her any results. So she gave up and just does her own thing now.

>>39181426
Nah starsEN shares HoloEN's audience, they just haven't subbed yet and don't watch the streams yet because they haven't had enough exposure

>>39181277
>next month when the gap between the first teaser and the actual pv for Council was close to 3 weeks
They haven't even been hinted at and the fact that Omega is trying to >ACCELERATE homos isn't a good look.

>>39181290
There's no "relenting". She's just not getting subs. She streams a shitton but it literally doesn't matter if no one is subbing to her. Like fuck dude Fauna uploaded 2 shorts and has been gone 3 fucking days of no streams and still gets more than Bae who had a handcam stream as well as a bunch of streams throughout the week.

>>39181255
>Mumei in the same sentence with those number shitters
retard

>Check reddit
>They hate asking for EN 3 but are excited for this
>That spelling as well

>Patra 6k with Armored Core
Can't wait for the new one. Probably it will be a big buff too

>>39181527
*Holds up spork* MOAR BOIS?!?!?!?

>>39181489
Aren't shorts actually a subs hack? Look at fucking Filian and Punkaloni

>>39181527
Kek, basically this >>39181043

>>39181475
Rrat was a numberfag for one month and then she celebrated her bigger numbers by taking time off and then being inconsistent, which just killed off any progress she made.

>>39181484
First of 5 teasers this week, trust.

>>39181577
I mean
>104k on the first one and 20k on the second
It's not like it's getting a shitton of views

>Accept any gender
>Omega pic

What if I apply for starsEN2 just to get closer to the girls, message them on discord every day and collab with them regularly?

>>39181647
Kronii is a holostar

>>39181043
Tempus is EN3. This is just EN 4

>>39181527
>>39181647
the absolute state

>>39181426
>limit your applicant pool to a handful of sexpats like the TT boys or the unicorn failed Nip that can vomit out some Subaru-tier english
seems like a retarded way to run hiring

>>39181475
It's not even hard to be a low-key numberfag: just be consistent, don't stream shitty games, listen to your audience when their criticism has merit and do some special streams once in a while. It's that easy.

>>39181647
Jesus Christ
How did we fail at gatekeeping these people

Numberbros I need your honest predictions, what will come first starsEN4 or holoEN4

>>39181510
Did I stutter hookek? You going to cry? Shit your pants?

>>39181214
she has been inclining ever since she stopped the homo collabs

>>39181647
Take me back to 2020

>>39181699
They care more about lifting HomoJP than anything concerning the EN branch.

>>39181710
Nah, for bae and kiara they have to fix their voice

>>39181731
There is no gatekeeping when they are already inside Cover's HQ.

>>39181745
>implying HoloEN will last that long

>>39181767
Take your time

>>39181527
>>39181647
nijiniggers

>>39181779
StarsJP is a lost cause, nothing can save them. Tempus certainly didn't.

>>39181781
>Nah, for bae and kiara they have to fix their voice
Yeah, when fan criticism has merit. And two of those criticisms have been Rrat's constant yelling and overreactions to mundane things and Kiara's chicken voice.

>>39181781
Fauna has the worst voice in all of HoloEN and that hasn't stopped her

>>39181260
>doxxing a nonexistent talent
some people just like to whine about nothing huh?

Also, if you guys really want to piss them off since we pretty much now know they only pay attention to reddit, go downvote that announcement. It regularly causes them to seethe and you know Omegay and that reddit janny hate that shit.
Now have this guy who's about to be eaten alive by the reddit NPC.

>>39181710
just put on the nyanners voice like fauna or lean into the west coast basic bitch voice like irys

>>39181769
me too

>>39181714
Does Kronii not have music and now ASMR to fall back to when she's gone that she's getting such shit gains

>>39181768
>above Kronii
and they said her collabing with males will not have an effect on her her numbers

>>39181883
Fauna sounds nothing like Nyanners you deaf fuck.

>>39181745
They won't last.
Gura will graduate
Ina will graduate
Amelia will graduate

And the way they are pushing this branch i don't I will even care by that point.

>>39181768
Since she sniped the p5 tourists*

>>39181768
I hate the timeline where Vox isn't the top dog of NijiEN anymore. Mysta isn't nearly as funny to talk about.

At this point, is r/Hololive the biggest Nijisanji sub on reddit? Holy shit, mindshare is growing massively

>>39181882
Kek

what's wrong with kronii's numbers?

>>39181647
>>39181527
>>39181882
Oh and by the way, I looked and this has only been posted on the Hololive reddit. The Holostars one is dead as fuck lmao

>>39181942
Nta but she does. They both have that annoying grating uwu voice.

>>39181942
>uuuuuuu don't point out mommy's stock standard breathy twitch anime girl voice uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

EN3?

>>39182010
>Seizure Simulator part 2

So why didn't anyone stop Omega's nijification project? Jenma is in cahoots with Omega too?

>>39181214
What did Iofi do? Bae had the same subs as her a few days ago.

>>39181731
>we

>>39182047
That would suck since it means they’re still a full month away (Myth and Council got to interact a month before they debut).

Baelz already horny for StarsEN2.
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1604343384063504385

>>39182045
Fauna isn't even breathy. What the fuck.

>>39182047
rrat is definitely talking to EN3 in discord

>>39182061
Jenma is just the head manager for talent managers, she’s not at the top making the decisions

>>39182112
Get your fucking ears checked you delusional spastic retard.

>>39182047
I fucking hate vagueposting.

>>39182141
>Dude his is launching a nuke! Stop him!
>I can't stop him because that is not under my job description
Even the Russians are better human beings than this and stopped WW3.

You know, you guys can doompost about HoloEN while I'm going to wait for HoloFes4, aka "Vtuber SuperBowl". Council, Myth and ID1 performances will probably go viral again.

>>39182010
crashed after homo collabs and the drama around it

LOL Kronii actually managed to pass Hex's Bathhouse stream peak with part 2 of this kusoge

>>39182159
I can say the same to you, you fucking retard. ZETA has a breathy voice. Fauna does not.

>>39181882
hmm

>>39182047
>Dude
Stars 2 debut closer than we think. The announcement was for Stars 3

>>39182218
Please tell me it's not real

Please don’t hate on Bae. She’s been streaming a lot and gave us a lot of good content these past 2 weeks. Also for some reason people love watching her clips

>>39181882
Jesus fucking Christ I thought they would take it as an obvious anti comment but they're supporting it.
This is now the top comment.

>>39182218
But she can't get pass Vermillion's MC number.

>>39182047
Watch it be a sponsored stream or something lol.

>>39182229
Kek, being semantic, I see.

Kronii 5k... dorya...

>>39182226
>zeta sounds like fauna/nyanners also
You aren't helping your case.

>>39182276
Less hate on Bae and more wondering what the fuck she's done that she's so behind despite the effort she's put in. Her income has also lessened drastically from SCs.

>>39182229
Man, those names sounds like fucking bots ...

>>39182159
You don't even know what breathy means idiot

>>39181975
Doesn't Mysta have funny brain problems that keep him on the verge of sudoku at all times?

>>39182209
Funny to me because as much as this place likes to shill NijiEN as the next big thing, Anykara likes to exclude them from big cross-company concerts like the upcoming NJU and Fantasia.

>>39181863
thats why they need stars EN2

>>39182307
I'm genuinely sorry you're deaf, dude.

>>39182309
She's great for clips, not for getting viewers that are willing to pay money.

>>39182282
Ahahahaha. ENsh**ts you guys only have yourselves to blame for not getting uppity enough to stop this. We on the other hand have Christmas with Pekora because >we spammed cold chicken hard enough.

>>39182226
>Zeta
Holy fuck you're not helping yourself by using yet another nyanners sound-alike as a point of comparison you fucking mong CUNT.

>>39182159
A-Anon? your hearing reps?

>>39182093
>>39182047
Council 3D

>>39181873
Those are /here/ critiques
I remember there was a point in Bae's career where she had a soft voice and did a lot of powerwash streams but it didn't get her better numbers at all
I don't think anyone outside gives a shit

>>39182392
And my point is ZETA ACTUALLY SOUNDS MORE LIKE NYANNERS while Fauna fucking doesn't and if you weren't a deaf piece of shit and actually watched streams you'd realize this. Fauna is NOT fucking breathy in the slightest.

It would be funny if NijiEN goes back to losing cripple gold next month.

>>39182321
i'm exposing myself but it's because those are default reddit names. If someone is too lazy or too retarded to make an account name reddit makes one up and they look like that

>>39182282
That's cool and all anon but this is like the 3rd one not the top

>>39182282
>5 upboats
Truly an astounding show of support

>>39182434
It's fucking powerwash.

>>39182456
They sound identical you sperg. Again get your FUCKING EARS CHECKED.

>>39182480
Not when I took the pic, the thing's shifting all over the place right now I'll admit.

>>39182434
I mean, telling someone they have an obnoxious voice isn't really something you CAN say outside of here.

>>39182343
They are not the next big thing they are the new big thing. Individually they are still behind HoloEN but as a group they pull in more people and more money and they won the culture war. HoloEN has been trying to copy them ever since Luxiem

KRONII IS USING BOTS

>>39182456
That one linguist chuuba that does impressions said Fauna has a breathy voice and she's not a retarded schizo on 4chan so nothing you say on this will ever hold more weight

>>39182342
That's just normal vtuber menhera issues.

>>39182472
>It would be funny if NijiEN goes back to losing cripple gold next month.
Their overall numbers are still shit and it's being hidden by having one gimmick stream a day getting good numbers.

>>39182572
cool

>>39182456
This is cope kek

>thread actively monitoring reddit posts
If you have nothing to discuss at least shift your focus to, I don't know, NUMBERS?

>>39182532
NTA but Zeta and Fauna are pretty easy to tell apart. Are you the same people who were saying Mumei sounds like Gura?

>>39182504
All of these Tempus posts get downvoted and upvoted to hell so they look tiny by comparison
I wonder if Cover looks at the "controversial" data for these reddit posts and thinks to themselves "Huh, this shit sure is divisive. Will that cause any problems?"

Kek, the drama wars

>>39182504
truly massive support

>>39182633
Well, it's an actual valid topic once we knew that they unironically taking leddit seriously

>whine when they are on leave because they are sick
>when they are back you don't want to watch them anyway
This is why there is no EN3. There is no demand for EN female vtubers.

>>39182557
would you prefer this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fle5KIhSV4

Why do holos think vagueposting builds hype, all it does it turn me off.

>>39182639
Where did I say I couldn't tell them apart you dumb cunt. Saying they have the same vocal stylings and share said stylings with one of the major contributors to the popularisation of that voice isn't a hot take.

>>39182588
You can't fool me, I actually watched that video live
She explicitly said Fauna wasn't breathy

>>39182753
Maybe Kronii shouldn't fucking play something that gives me fucking migraines

im gonna do suicide bombing on next holo EN event

I will never understand how you fags keep pretending you are a different breed from the redditors when it's obvious as fuck 90% of the anons here are there in those reddit threads
You both are the same

>>39181883
After reading this chain I looked up a Nyanners video on youtube since I don't actually know what she sounds like and she sounds more similar to Shylily or Zeta than Fauna. Fauna sounds more cutesy and isn't breathy 24/7, Fauna actually talked about this when she reacted to Ophelia's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHceKBBEvM

>>39182772
wtf this is the first time I actually hear her voice in this model and it's unironically worser than the current one

>>39182633
What numbers do you want to talk about anon? The Amelia stream that just ended? The horrible Kronii stream going on right now? Maybe one of the JPs? There's nothing really new about any of those things, just old ground this thread has covered already unless you just want to timeloop.

>>39182633
Hush, we need this intel as we formulate a plan to save Hololive

>>39182588
Trying too hard, nijinig

Ok I am sold on Zaion. She can be my background noice when I am doing something else. An EN vtuber that doesn't have dead air, fucking finally.

>>39182848
Fauna's a tard if she thinks it's not very obvious who she learned her radio voice, for lack of a better term, from. Ophelia is spot on.

>>39182772
No
Ignore the original fag anon who has no idea what he's talking about, Bae's problem isn't her voice itself
Her voice is actually quite pleasant especially compared to what it was near debut
The problem is the random yelling and chaotic volume

>>39182797
Based anon shutting this retard down
It's probably Faunaschizo though so I'm sure he'll just keep spamming

After listening to Lamy’s radio shows I became angered once again over Japanese fucks who genuinely think the retarded aged grandma voices are better than their normal voice. Seeing the Towa streamable of how much her voice changed debut and post-debut is sad too

>>39182934
when i discovered she's a lefty roastie i can't
sorry

Yagoo said in an interview that Cover had the money to survive for few more years even if the company didn't make a profit.
Is this why the company is willing to keep and provide even the shitters?

I hope EN3 isn't actually happening now or even early January, not because I don't want EN3 but because Susan will rape them if they do it now.

>>39183025
>discovered
She joined Niji anon

>>39182777
>Why do holos think vagueposting builds hype, all it does it turn me off.
Vagueposting is so stupid because all it does is promote unproductive gossip.

kronii stream died

>>39182282
Your wish has been heard

>>39182880
Hard to discuss gold since Suisei seems like a shoe-in, but Hololive Mahjong is happening in 4 hours, what are the thread's expectations for it?

Wait, if HoloEN is fucked, why do they keep getting and selling out merch like Omocat, Pop-Up Parade and PC cases? Or why are their games still attracting players?
I don't get it.

>>39182797
https://youtu.be/fzHceKBBEvM?t=26
Also here's Fauna doing an actual breathy voice

>>39183116
How about her holo career?

>>39179010
I mean it's not really that hard to get 3-4k viewer as a holo although people here call them 4view 3-4k viewers make you the top 1% of live stremers there revenue should just be fine

>>39183048
They still bring a profit and unless they are yab machines they don’t hurt the company rep

>>39183144
Hololive has never been popular with casual viewers so I expect 20-30k only.

>>39182934
Hags are too powerful. It was a big mistake not to hire any for HoloEN

>>39183144
>mahjong
>this amount of povs
it will do pretty bad and probably will fuck up suisei outfit too with overlap

>>39183144
Nijisanji gold today. This mahjong is a sub 30k.

>>39183144
The gold would be guaranteed for Niji anyway

>>39183048
I mean they're a private company, their main objective isn't bombastic growth on every quarter like the public Anycolor. As long as the growth is still on the green it's still "good".

>>39183270
No, it's easier now to become a 4view dumbass.

>>39183171
They're obviously doing well financially. That's not what we're talking about.

>>39182957
You changed the subject from the point I actually made and apparently even Ophelia says her voice isn't that breathy >>39182797 , but sure. Maybe you could say they're in a similar voice category of cutsey vtuber voices, but I would never confuse one for the other.

>>39183348
>>39183354
Out of the loop with Nijisanji, what do they have today that'll beat Suisei's outfit reveal?

Even Pekora outfit is losing to a simple Niji Marika event. What happened?

>>39183438
their annual marika tourney

>>39183438
Mariokart Tourney

>>39183438
MK tournament finals

>>39183025
That didn't stop you from watching Mumei or Fauna before.

It's amazing to see the growth on Nijisanji events. How the fuck is the brand able to garner such a strong presence despite many fuck-ups the company has been through?

>>39182397
That would mean they re getting a 3D bebut before holofes

>>39182797
Holy based, shutting up that deaf retarded anon. This is why I can't stand Zeta's stream for more than 5 minutes, both Fauna's and Zeta's voice is soft, but in Zeta's case, she sounds like she's drowning and constantly gasping for air.

>>39183556
better question is how none of these tourists watch their actual regular streams

>>39179309
Definitely above minimum wage

>>39183526
why did you assume i watch them?

>>39182662
Nice, I hope they kill themselves

>>39183556
I don't know why this place shits on Niji thay much when they are getting the numbers that people want.
And it's an actual organic growth, not bot-based since previous the growth rate is very normal.

"tourists" is just another way to say "bots"

>>39183655
>And it's an actual organic growth
There's nothing natural about the chinese
Take your time

>>39183680
Has anyone in here ever proven the bot speculation?

>>39183655
Who shits on Niji? We love Nijisanji and Lucubs here.

>>39182811
In the end of the day, we are all retards

>>39183724
Do you have 11?

>>39183680
Proof next thread then? If you don't have proof that Anykara is using bor, then the entire argument is moot.

>>39183369
>just growing is enough even if you only grow by 1%
And that's why they'll never beat AnyColor, lack of ambition and competence

>>39183732
Always has been

wow, 13.5k people are watching a random Nose apex stream now

>>39183616
The same way people don't watch every soccer game but will tune in for the World Cup, mainstream events attract tourists and nijisanji are mainstream in Japan.

>>39181882
I don't use reddit
Can you link me where they post the homo announcement thing

>>39183867
Let's not go into the similarities between this thread in particular and WC game threads anon

>>39183807
Yes, unironically. It's not about lack of ambition or competence, but any private company general objective growth-wise is to be on the green.

Niji marika main tournament = 230k peak
Suisei costume reveal 70k

>>39183937
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zopslx/holostars_english_vtuber_auditions_2023/?sort=new
Some rando posted the vid

>>39183974
Suisei will peak at 100k+

>>39183937
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zopslx/holostars_english_vtuber_auditions_2023/?sort=new
Here you go, friend

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/nijisanji-posts-profit-vtuber-agency-skyrocketing-success-2012583/
I actually respect Anykara on a numbers standpoint.

>>39183974
>70k
I doubt she can even get 70k now.
Too many overlaps and even Aqua could only get 75k.
People think just because Pekora got 110k costume reveal is that big of a buff.

Hag love

>>39184041
>Andrew Amos
kek

>>39184020
If the Mahjong thing go for more than 1 hour then she will have a fuckton of overlap so probably sub 100k

>>39184074
The hot women are cosplaying Hololive while the uglies prefer Nijiaanji.
Is there a reason for that?