/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>38997101
Recent clip numbers
>>38936210
>>38936245
>>38936375
>>38936417
>>38936461

It's quite apparent now that this new batch of niji recruits is a flop. What do you guys think should be done to break this trend?

>>38996971
not looking good holobros

https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym2/128782/00.pdf (English)
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/tdnet/2215655/00.pdf (Japanese)

/biz/anon, IT'S TIME

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>65,176: Pekora (Hololive)
>53,514: Miko (Hololive)
>38,004: Miko (Hololive)
>37,256: Okayu (Hololive)
>30,290: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,824: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,805: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,166: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,728: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>18,028: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,986: Nene (Hololive)
>14,763: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,221: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,148: Botan (Hololive)
>12,193: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,117: Flare (Hololive)
>11,932: Mio (Hololive)
>11,842: Saku (Nijisanji)
>11,438: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,041: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>10,442: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,398: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,259: NeruMero (Indie)
>10,176: Sasaki (Nijisanji)

>>38997205
Hire a former Holo.

>>38997232
Post pics

>>38997205
It's a SC reading stream. I guarantee she'll end up better than Scarle and Aia at the very least. Probably better than Maria too.

>>38997205
Hire Chinese ESLs

>>38997248
This is not VshojoJP, anon

>>38997241
Is that 2.9m net profit?

>>38997232
You didn't even read it

pekora
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003944.000016756.html

>>38997248
But Sana is too busy with arknights right now

>>38997205
i think they need to improve on the timing of the debut release
iluna despite being trash skillwise, garnered quite a large viewership thanks to piggy backing on hololive debut schedule

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material1/198000/00.pdf
>VTuber group "NIJISANJI" and English-speaking VTuber group "NIJISANJI EN" are performing better than expected at the time of the initial earnings forecast, and cost items other than variable costs are generally progressing as expected at the time the initial earnings forecast was formulated. We expect full-year net sales, operating profit, ordinary profit, net profit, and basic earnings per share to exceed the previously announced figures. As a result, we have decided to upwardly revise our full-year forecasts
Anycolor doing so much better than expected that they revised their forecasts for full year results upwards.

>>38997241
>>38996971
I don't really follow Niji business model but do they have a money blackhole like Cover has with HoloEarth? It seems like they only have to pay management since their livers are considered freelance workers, so they should be insanely profitable just based off low overhead cost right?

Don’t forget to loop Mori’s new album!
She wants you to!

>>38997205
They need to consolidate their fanbase first

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW1ZgNUgi8I
>Pekora honestly reveals what she likes and envies about Nijisanji.
its over... holobros...

>>38997337
Er...Nijilieverse?

>>38997246
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Miko, Mio, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
54x: Pekora
23x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38997301
It's going to be the year of the rabbit? pekora is gonna swimming in sponsorships and collabs

>>38997298
2.9b yen net profit innit?

>>38997337
They'll have the ChroNoir thing as well I suppose

>>38997339
Did Mori shoot your dog? You seem upset.

>>38997205
2.5k is normal niji numbers
if it is a flop, almost every niji is a flop, and the company wouldn't exist

Anycolor has stream watch hours in its report lol

>>38997205
>flop
They're no peak Luxiem, but they're looking Noctyx tier, which is good enough.
No Aia's and Scarle's.

So 22m USD in profit? oct 2021 to 2022

>>38996227
The point of signing onto a label is to make them work for you so that you can focus on making world tours and shit. But the label basically own your shit and you get nothing out of that if it's not a live performance or sponsorship/advertising deal. That by itself isn't bad and it works great for musicians. The problem is that Mori already has a support structure working for Cover. There was literally no need to do this since now she is bound to two entities that she needs to fulfill obligations to which may have mutually exclusive priorities in how they want her career to develop. She can no longer work at her own pace and won't be able to do just anything that she wants. And let's not forget the pittance that she earns from this, whereas before she would be the owner of everything music.

Did I mention her roommate activities? Literally chasing multiple rabbits at the same time.

>>38997337
nijifes seems to be the big thing they spend on, otherwise they're probably a more efficient business than cover (we'll know when cover does their ipo next year)

>>38997399
>if it is a flop, almost every niji is a flop
Anon, why do you think everyone not just in here perpetuates the "quantity over quality" meme?

>>38997361
anon, her answer was tournaments

>>38997432
holy G R I M

>>38997420
>Noctyx tier
So which one of them is going to get terminated?

>>38997420
They are Noctyx tier 5 days after their debut, some of them won't even be iLuna tier after 2 months

>>38997309
>thanks to piggy backing on hololive debut schedule
My rrat is they've been waiting for EN3 debut date to finally release xsolul but well, we know how it goes currently. Which is why if they actually debuting EN3 this/next week it will be the ultimate gotcha from cover kek

>>38997335
Which is honestly weird considering NijiEN were doing worse in Q2 compared to Q1 here.
From picrel we can see that the gains from JP events jumped up from 173 to 837(NijiFes and some other events?), but almost everything went down resulting in only little gains compared to last quarter.

>>38997420
being noctyx tier so close to debut is beyond grim

>>38997395
Isn't that just a two-man unit though? I imagine they'd have to spend money on songs and advertising, but that's barely anything.

>>38997445
The date for the supposed Cover IPO has already passed with no IPO

>>38997437
>Cover
>Helping with music
NICE JORK

>>38997298
It's billions, up 143% on the same quarter last year.

>>38997420
>Noctyx tier
Nigga if it taken them this quick to be in Noctyx tier then they will be iLuna tier by next month

>>38997497
EN3 is out of the race, either HoloES or JP7 next

>>38997378
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
227x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa, Korone
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>>38997497
Nina leaked that the new wave would come in December months ago.

>>38997520
HoloENs theme is IPO

>>38997337
They have their own projects, but just like Cover (probably even moreso), they have disgustingly huge profit margins from merch sales, truckloads of sponsorships and NijiEN has objectively made a shitton of SCs this year.
Adding in the IPO, it was impossible for Anycolor to not have a great financial year.

I doubt HoloEarth will cause a real dent in Cover's financials anyways and if they add enough goodies, it'll recoup its development costs in no time.

>>38997420
They're still on the honeymoon phase but their numbers are already declining a lot. I don't think that's indicative of something positive

>>38997507
I assume that's just because of how anniversary merch and stuff were spread around date-wise, so it's within their expectations

>>38997564
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
226x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
41x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>38997507
It's literally their highest earning quarter they have ever had in the history of the company anon.

Nice to see anycolor still feels like paying a quarter of their total profit in fucking taxes

>>38997332
indog are literal monkeys and should be rangebanned

>>38997608
Luxiem at it's peak was doing insane numbers in SC, it's gonna be hard for them to replicate that even with more people.

holo gold contenders

>17 Pekora new outfit
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

How do we save hololive

is there an english translation of this shit

>>38997507(me)
Follow-up on NijiEN.
Red is Youtube related earnings, Orange is goods sales while Green is shills and promotions.

>>38997648
they don't reinvest in any projects inside Anycolor so no tax exemptions.

>>38997648
They are helping Japan, holokek, not like your greedy Yagod would do it if the Shogun asked

Dopipo Dropscythe status?

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>12/14 DAILY TALLY
21,166: Mysta (Nijisanji)
10,398: Fauna (Hololive)
7,161: Pippa (Phase Connect)
6,123: Zaion (Nijisanji)
5,678: Discount Vox (Nijisanji)
5,477: Baelz (Hololive)
5,228: Ver (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Yet another Nijishitty "return" stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,263 (Simulacra)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,166 (1 Million Subscribers Endurance)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 8
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mysta
3x: Gura
2x: IRyS
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Meloco

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Mysta
19p: Fauna
18p: Gura
10p: IRyS
8p: Hex
6p: Mumei, Meloco
5p: Selen, Maria
4p: Mori, Kronii
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver, Millie
1p: Petra, Vox, Shu, Pippa

>>38997724
reminiscing his pornhub days

>>38997694
That's a lot of plastic stands.

>>38997507
Vtubers' overhead cost is so insanely low (freelance = no salary, no health insurance, no 401k matching) compared to the profits they bring in terms of merchs and Youtube money that it's a no brainer to grab as many Vtubers in the foreign market as you can, at least when it comes to the company's perspective.

>>38997361
>i dont think it's any individual talent but rather the sheer amount of members that make their events exciting! Thats what im envious about.
kek

>>38997689
Yeah they blame the fall in revenues on people being out of action people being out of action for preperation for NijiFes and not enough merch being released compared to previous.

>>38997475
>>38997511
>>38997554
>>38997603
NTA but they feel like higher quality hires than ILUNA so I think they'll recline at a slower rate than ILUNA did
It's kinda like how Tempus had a lower starting point and also reclined slower.

>Earns more yen than last year
Ok but how do we calculate with how bad the yen has free fallen this year?

>>38997724
Now for real, why the fuck did they do this?
You are fucking DOA with that name

>>38997643
I never disputed that, I'm only saying that despite a fantastic gain from their events everything kind of went down so what will happen on Q with less events compared to this Q2? That's probably on the mind of some of their investors right now.

>>38997694
And people still argue about SCs, which is just a part of youtube revenue, when merch is just SO much more valuable.

>>38997643
read again on what he said, anon.

>>38997779
If I read this correctly the graph for NijiEN is higher because of the low amount of Vtubers they have in comparison to JP?

>>38997757
Surely Cover give health insurace right? Since they're salaried?

>>38997796
It's on par with Seraph hazzledragon

>>38997437
>There was literally no need to do this since now she is bound to two entities that she needs to fulfill obligations to which may have mutually exclusive priorities in how they want her career to develop.
I don't think it's deniable that Mori got a lot out UMG as well tho, in terms of producers, mixers and connections to other artists. I doubt Mori would be collabing with Zutomayo without signing with UMG, the legitimacy just isn't there.

The roommate stuff is dumb and Mori overworking herself to death as usual. I just see it as her being restless about company restrictions, but she should just refocus on making better content as Mori imo.

>>38997858
they do. they even force talents to use it cause everyone's too autistic to bother

>>38997859
Yeah they have fewer people so their revenue per vtuber is high. NijiJP has way too many deadweight.

>>38997858
all japanese companies do, in fact, almost every country but Burgerland do it too

>>38997821
Total Revenue 2022 - 14,164 billion yen
Total Revenue 2023 first two quarters - 11,973 billion yen

They are killing it. I doubt they would forecast earning almost as much in 2 quarters as they did in the entire year last year.

>>38997836
i mean it pretty much being used only for cope reason, be it by Holofags back then or nijifags nowadays. Even with traditional youtuber or streamer once you're big merch will always be the bread and butter of your economy.

https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym3/128783/00.pdf
here's the english presentation

>>38997859
Yeah but it's also no secret that the average vtuber in NijiEN is going to make more money than in NijiJP. That's just how it works right now, especially with the yen doing worse

That's why people have been saying Meloco going EN instead of JP is probably a better idea financially. They're bigger fish in a smaller pond compared to the big pond that is JP

>>38997747
They sell plastic stands for $20-30 when they cost cents to make lol
The profit margins are fucking disgusting.

Not to mention, so much NijiEN merch this year was RNG shit that fans would buy multiple copies of to ensure they got their oshi.

What are today's gold candidates?

Where are you guys getting the charts from?

>>38997779
>revenue down because of nijifes preparations
>hardly any of them showed up

>lack of large-scale commerce initiatives
>half the branch had anniversaries, outfits and debuts

>>38997990
I imagine they also take a way bigger cut compared to Cover who gives talents the majority share.

>>38998011
Miko playing Pokemon I guess

>>38998041
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/ir/presentation
2022.12.15
Financial Result for FY2023.4 Q2 (6,428KB)

>>38997925
Most companies in bureland have health insurance plans anon, it's only unironic black companies that don't
The reason you hear so much about health insurance problems in America is cause of poorfags with shitty jobs or no jobs at all, not because corpos don't offer health insurance.

>>38998049
I don't have any horse in this race but is there any confirmation for the company's cut when it comes to merchandise? All I've heard is that Hololive talents can fund their own merch and gets a higher share of the profits after the merch runs.

>>38998011
No idea, I don't think there's anything big tonight

>>38998060
>it's only unironic black companies that don't
Good thing our livers have health insurance! right sisters?

>>38998060
Full time employees get healthcare, part timers don't. This issue mostly stems from retail/fastfood jobs where they intentionally keep your hours low enough so they're not required to give you healthcare.

>>38997794
Makes no difference since the Yen is only ever used in Japan. It won't mean much until the changes are significant enough that the local revenue report starts to show signs of eating into the profits. It's not like the USD or EUR that many countries use as their backing currencies (and even legal tender) to mitigate against economic unrest.

>>38997779
>no-now show their superchats

>>38998120
>All I've heard is that Hololive talents can fund their own merch and gets a higher share of the profits after the merch runs.
NTA, but that's basically all we know.
I don't think I've ever heard a holo say they get majority cut of merch sales, which frankly sounds optimistic as fuck when it comes to corporations.

>>38997387
You mean 22mil USD right?

>>38997931
They made as much in the 2nd quarter of this year as they did in the entire first half of last year.

Q1 2022 - 2,785
Q2 2022 - 3,443
Total 6,228
Q2 2023 - 6,042

>>38998120
Mostly just anecdotal stuff from livers about how for niji-produced merch (which is most of what niji puts out) they don't get a lot (kuzuha even said about one particular bit of his merch that he got fucking nothing) but they get 50% of voice packs, things like that.

>>38998209
I just remember some member actually said that they could get Lion's share of the cut depending on how much they invest their own money. Which mean it's actually possible to get a bigger cut than even the company itself.

I forgot, was it Lamy or Botan?

>>38998197
The superchats bit went up looking at it. That's in EN Livestreaming with all other youtube income. From 391 to 414.

>>38998267
King...

>>38997779
Even then its a massive drop. I mean we already know the chinks mostly left luxiem but it's good to have confirmation

>>38997931
>>38998231
Anycolor is finally monetizing NJU this year too by making the last 2 days a paid concert.
Wouldn't be surprised if they made 3x in 2022 what they made in 2021.

>>38998210
What do I look like, a forex trader?

>>38996391
i dont think /#/ even knows what whore means anymore. they keep overusing it so much that its meaning transformed into "people i dont like"

>>38998286
I assume Lamy? Wasn't she the one with the sake bottles?

>>38998291
Isn't that not only superchats but also memberships and any youtube payouts?

>>38998300
I think what they are saying has some merit to it. Look at the livestreaming numbers for EN they went up, the promotion numbers they went up. Everything besides the merch went up so maybe they actually didn't put out as much merch. Every other segment was increasing.

This slide is still in it huh?

>>38998318
It's literally just mumei and fauna schizo

>We are chilling talking about the earnings report without barely any tribalism
>catalog and this thread will be flooded in a few hours of pics baiting and shitposting
who should I blame for this?

>>38997716
This is /vt/, not grandma bakery nijinig.

>>38997990
>Low quality merch but fans still eat it
This reminds me of Pokemon...

>>38998362
>Not Idol
Gundou...

>>38997931
Oh of course, I'm not disputing that they will definitely been making more money for this year compared to last year's.
What's worrisome is their growth, and expectation from investors.
You can see in picrel that historically the jump from Q1 -> Q2 has always been quite a growth, but this year's been kind of meek. Also because of the huge jump from 2022Q4 to 2023Q1 the expectation was high, which is why the stock price was able to reach 10k yen right after the Q1 financial report. People expected some good jump from Q1 to Q2, and while they're still gaining more compared to last Q, it's definitely not on the scale that the investors thought of.

>>38998355
I mean the viewing hours were stagnant/went down but we already knew that from all the graphs that get posted here, they're down for everyone in EN

>>38998362
it's made for boomer investors
>>38997779
read the other slide, they say internal resources (aka employees) were shifted to focus on nijifes instead of merch
>>38998197
stream revenue was up

>>38998393
Next step is to add gacha to bday merch as well.

>>38998445
A lot of people did stream a lot less in that time period. Mysta and Vox took full months off for example and they are the two biggest members of the branch.

>>38998391
Already too late, I just checked catalog and there's bait there. Multiple theads.

>>38998445
>still losing to 35 members holojp

>>38998286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQR2mkPjQiE

>they could get Lion's share of the cut depending on how much they invest their own money.
I couldn't find that part, but here's a clip of Lamy talking about how her paycheck went into the negatives when she was making her birthday's merchs according to her standards, so I guess Cover front a portion of the money to the talents and they have to pay Cover back?

>>38998471
That is true yeah, a lot more people were going on breaks.

>>38998445
Numbers dropping aside, NijiEN has been going on a lot of breaks this year so no real surprise.
Luxiem went hard on streaming everyday in their first few months and nowadays, it feels like only 2-3 actively stream at a time.

It's okay tho, Scarle and Aia and coming in with their stream hours lol.

>>38998411
They've revised their forecast upwards taking into account this quarters figures so I assume they have already factored in that this wasn't as big of a jump and either way I am guessing its still a much higher amount than they were projecting at the start of the year for this quarter right.

>>38998551
Scarle superchats probably led to that increase in stream revenue lol

>>38998460
If they don't give a fuck about their images and try to squeeze as much money as they can from the fans, they should just add the Fest tickets to random merch and encourage fans to buy as much as they can ala "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" style

>>38998617
They already do that with their concerts.
>Buy Kuzuha album and get a raffle ticket for the ROFMAO concert!

>>38998516
The opposite, Cover takes that money from ther salaries so that they (both the girls and the company) can write it off as business expenses and don't have to pay so much in taxes
I'm a filthy ESL, I don't know how to explain it properly in english

>>38998516
No, I wasn't referring to that one particular video. I'm really sure there's actually one hololive girl who said it, but I'm not sure whether it Lamy or Botan (or hell I even started to think that it's actually Moona after all).

My cute wife

>>38998651
This is correct.

>>38998405
Ranunculus are barely idols. And Gundou even says she doesn't think Nijisanji will make her do that in that clip.

>>38998654
Moona said that cover has an original song fund that talents can use and if costs go above that then the holo needs to use their own money. I am unaware if she's said anything specifically about merch.

>>38998411
>revenue increasing
it is funny to think back to prior to the IPO when everyone here was convinced anycolor was about to go bankrupt

>>38998617
They already do that lol.
It's frankly kinda dumb for Cover to not do the same because most fans are buying the albums anyways, it's just extra incentive to entice the ones on the edge like pre-order goods.

>>38998651
Officially cover pays for all the merch themselves and that technically gives the girls a smaller paycheck. Both end up paying less on taxes

>>38998691
Luckily for Gundou, she isn't popular enough to be pressured to dancing and singing

>>38998391
No one.
Numberchads run this thread.
Threadnigger ruin all threads.

>>38998704
Yeah, that's why I said I'm not even sure of the girl, I just remember about that merch cut clip.
Welp, just write it off as my delusion for now i guess.

>>38998732
They might have had a few rough months when the Niji concert was canceled due to covid, but obviously after what's happened this year, they made it through and profited a shitton from NijiEN blowing up with China.

>>38998745
They don't? That's pretty standard practice for idol companies. Scummy for sure but JP don't really mind it for some reason.

>>38998756
Leos and Oliver are the same wave as Axia and they aren't doing much idol shit either.
It's possible the contracts were unique for Axia (in which case, his fault for not reading it) or they've changed for the new VTA gens. But again, Ranunculus aren't very idol-like and the VTA waves are full of the pretty standard "i'm an autist who likes streaming" people as older Niji waves.

>>38998405
niji friends in shambles

This SEA girl doing better than most dedicated ID groups (other than Hololive). Is it better to just join an EN group if you speak English?

>>38998865
nah, we actually watched the clip

Oh no holobros, our pekora..
https://youtu.be/R7Ew991cZEU

>>38998849
No, Cover is pretty generous all things considered. They could easily milk the fanbase but choose not to.

>>38998445
>even the company admits the decline is real
Niji bros...

>>38998891
If you can speak English without having a heavy accent, yes

>>38998405
I think Nijisanji copying Hololive will lead to their talents graduating

>>38998891
Yes, absolutely.

>>38998892
>we

>>38998751
That one anon had it right. It doesn't matter who is making the payments as long as the ultimate beneficiary is entitled to that initial compensation. Tax planning is interesting and the reason why beggars will continue to cry the 1% never pay their fair share.

they hired more employees

>>38998891
She's going hardcore into the wife roleplay and she got blessed by the algorithm recently iirc
Managed to get her own schizo in their general who shits up the thread anytime she streams.

>>38998808
Looked at in the wider picture cancelling Nijifes hardly cost them anything. Like 1 or 2% of their overall costs that year were the result of Event Cancellation. People were blowing it way out of proportion to think something like that could take them down.

>>38998898
It is pretty funny that they went with Pomu and Salome for the thumbnail when the big events Pekora talks about mostly feature other people. Should have gone with Kenmochi lol.
>>38998905
They're just gonna milk them with a shitty Genshin clone instead.

>>38998962
Weren't they hiring fresh grads/temp workers if I'm not mistaken?

>>38998891
Assuming you can actually speak English and don't "speak" English like melonco and Yugo, yeah

>>38998969
>gets a schizo
She made it bros.

>>38998946
read the entire statement. Its also not a copy anon, nijisanji has concerts and units for years

>>38998891
ID is a shit market after all, don't even know why ID vtubers are still trying

>>38998946
going for idol route is quite lucrative so it's no shame for them to copy cover
everyone copies each other these days

>>38998982
>shitty Genshin clone
I just want to pull Gacha and run around as listener-san while shitposting at my oshi's fanclub.

>>38999019

>>38998962
1 corporate
2 engineers
3 designers
16 business (are there managers or the sales division i can't tell)

>>38999043
Congratulations on the 3D debut

>>38998946
It's not surprising a lot of their graduates cited "differences in direction" as the reason for leaving the group.

>>38998982
English speakers don't know NijiJPs anon that thumbnail wouldn't get numbers. Salome is the token pick because she's a meme

>>38998974
Looking at that they could cancel nijifes nearly 20 times over without even going into the red.

>>38998946
ironic since i think it was nui who said she went to nijisanji cause singing and dancing weren't part of the requirements

>>38998982
>shitty Genshin clone instead
Again, Holoearth has always been meant to be a platform for talent-fans interaction.
Also no, even if they want to use it to milk the fanbase, they won't be able to do it either due to it still being very limited by the hardware they currently have available.

>>38997248
if you think about it, Hololive's incline happened basically after they hired Luna

Huh. Yugos gone, what the fuck happened?

>>38998231
Second quarter had both chronoir rofmao gacha concert and koshien sponsorships

>>38999139
The true test to see the direction of that aspect of the game will come during their xmas concert.

>>38999153
She went woke

>>38999153
She joined the 41%

>>38997779
Lack of investor confidence to their stock is the result

>>38999043
She should graduate and join some EN indie group

>>38999126
might still not be. i doubt they will going to do it with everyone.

>>38999199
It's a fucking cliff, my god

>>38999160
It's a short test with prerecorded content but I'm looking forward to it

>>38999153
Her chink manager slapped her in front of Riku

>>38999139
>very limited by the hardware
Oh yeah, while the chip shortage has loosened a bit, most of it is still going to the highest bidder so Cover wouldn't be able to set up a proper server farm.

>>38999199
The results were published after the TSE is closed for the day, you can't see any reaction there.

>>38999196
>>38999197
How are the Nijisisters coping? Ramping up the Holoan activities to deflect I suppose

>>38998982
I just want to build my town and farm those dancing carrots

>>38999199
Is Nijisanji unironically dying?

>>38999253
You forgot the "We actually didn't care about Him"

>>38998751
isn't this kinda shady?

>>38999055
>16 business
I guess most of them are EN related

>>38999253
Going full menhera on twitter appearently
https://twitter.com/firofilo/status/1603035142267740161

It’s kind of weird that people doompost Hololive when they been earning more and more

>>38999253

>>38999199
Pretty sure this was mostly initial investors cashing out when the lockout period ended (Dec 4)

>>38999280
No?

>>38999019
Nijiseethe. ID market is doing well everywhere outside nijisanji

>>38999280
It's 100% legal. Cover is the one that holds the money before the talents get payed.

>>38999326
>I do not wish to cause drama or bring anger but I am upset and I am so so angry.

>>38999280
It's typical accounting magic

>>38999349
How did a Japanese person catch the western trannoid brainworms?

>>38999199
The Tokyo Stock Exchange is open Monday through Friday from 9:00 am to 11:30 am and 12:30 pm to 3:00 pm Japan Standard Time (GMT+09:00).
The results were published just after 3pm. If you want to see the stock market reaction to it you will need to look at 9am JST.

>>38999343
It's because Cover has an actual make or break project going on in HoloEarth. That's where most of their employees go after all. If it doesn't do well they could be in trouble

Huh? Anykara's CFO Shinya Tsurui held 3.5% of the shares before the IPO lock expired but dude sold his holdings same with some group called Influencer Investment Holdings which also held 3.5%

>>38999280
How?

>>38999343
It's like both companies are doing extremely well and most of them are richer than everybody in this thread and all the tribalism and shitposts are useless. Who could have expected that?

>>38999343
Both Hololive and Nijisanji have been earning more and more. Doomposting Hololive has less to do with the profits and the state of the actual talents.

Feels kinda bad that this is probably Mori's best album yet, but it'll do the worst out of all her releases so far.

Not even sure if it'll even reach #1 iTunes, like all her older releases. The hype just doesn't feel like it's there and we all know vtuber music is 80% hype. Releasing I'm Greedy first was a mistake.

>>38998974
>people clapping that anycolor is lost 1.3B yen to taxes
lol

>>38999280
This is standard practice in any corporation.

>>38999391
Did you see the stream? It will be successful if all you can do is be a basic polygon and bukkake your oshi with fireworks

>>38999404
>chinks 20%

>>38999429
Paying taxes is good. Everyone should pay taxes.

>>38999391
Burn money on making the game or pay that to the government.

>>38999429
It's quite unusual for a growth company to be posting profits and paying taxes. Usually you want every single dollar going back into driving growth, not fattening up the bank account

>>38999404
Where's this from?

>>38999343
The doompost mostly has to do with HoloEarth. Of course, if it's successful then Yagoo is basically a genius since it lifts Cover out of Youtube's influence, but it's hard to imagine a company who made one ping pong VR game can somehow manage to make a full-blown Fortnite clone.

>>38999458
Fuck taxes, I'm an eurofag and almost half of my salary goes to the goverment which wastes it on third world services

>>38999280
Yes it is and people trying to say it's normal have already accepted big corpos doing shady (((accounting))) to pay less on their taxes
But don't worry goyim I'm sure you can figure out your taxes on your own. Don't forget to buy your oshis merch btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zme1jy/next_week_khr_hololive_english_vtubers_are/
Kek, of course

>>38999356
give me a 4view indie indog, you can't

>>38999422
that's because she doesnt know how to be a streamer first
you need to hype it up with regular quality streams and she has done a bad job at that. mostly because of self inflicted drama. if she actually understood how to generate hype instead of being a stuck-up bitch owning le incels and having them rentfree in her head maybe the album would have been successful but alas!

>>38999506
I’ll kneel hard if it’s actually successful but wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t.

>>38999506
>Fortnite clone
What? The only thing they took from it is the concert stuff

>>38998962
This does not included their vtubers right? That's so few people handling shit. No wonder they can't spam 3D lives like Hololive.

>>38999343
Doomposting Hololive is more about things like fan retention and "mindshare", not the profits of the company. It's mostly EN anyways since JP is doing the best it's ever done.


Hard to deny this year's HoloEN Christmas is a lot shittier than last year's.

>>38999391
>an actual make or break project
Again, no it's not.
Their current profit means that even if that project ends in total failure, it's not gonna bankrupt the company or anything.
Oh sure, they'll definitely feel the loss, but it's more akin to a punch in the gut than a bullet to the cranium.

>>38999529
Is that a female redditor asking for en3?kek

>>38999522
Anon, don't pay taxes thrice, stop being retarded

>>38999458
Said no one ever.

>>38999484
Probably from one of the stock market sites that track this shit. It's all public info anyway.

>>38998982
>shitty genchink clone
Fuck off Zhang. Genchink is no an mmo, it has no crafting and building mechanics, it has no emote animations. Not every every unity game is a genchink clone.
And genchink is a botw clone with nier automata animations

>>38993522
She's actually planning a subathon on twitch kek but it's not just donations she's getting sponsored by gamer drinks, selling t-shirts, fan-meetups and concerts with her cringy roommate songs.

>>38994534
>>38994730
Yes, we don't really know how it works, it's not really a streamer agency so perhaps they wouldn't get any money from this side but on the other hand it seems like they actually asked her to start a twitch channel for some reason.
At least she (probably) cant stream as a Vtuber on her RM due to non-compete stuff.

>>38999569
>100 million dollar cost forecasted by Yagoo
That’s about as much as they made in a year

>>38999474
That's what cover did last year, reinvesting into themselves. They're doing good for their size, their numbers are still increasing every year and their assets are also increasing. They look stable as shit, while anycolor's growth may or may reach a bottle neck and would like drop in a few years if they don't find another superstar. I don't like their business model much from not paying some basic salaries to talents while also increasing the numbers of talents every year. These people needs to understand, the more you hire, the more risks they bring to the company and the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

>>38999557
thats just the employees. they are growing each quarter looking at that. next year they might surpass 300.
to be clear though, 171 are the ones they manage, as VR is mainly managed by bilibili

>>38999569
Also, they make the assets in such a way that even if the project fails, those assets can still be repurposed for their 3D Lives so it's never gonna be a total failure.

>>38999446
Live service games are extremely expensive to maintain. Genshin Impact for example costs over double its initial budget to continue running every year. I will believe the game is a success when I can actually see the financials. Until then I will remain skeptical as anyone should regarding new live service games

>>38999460
Or invest it in shit that could actually help the girls? Like a 3rd studio

>>38999391
>actual make or break project
Nigga if that project ended up flopping then it's just that, a flop. It won't be something that will bankrupt the company. They still have the girls to fall back into.

>>38999557
yeah, vtubers are not included. I guess they're not employees but independent contractors maybe?

>>38999460
>>38999618
A game is still an asset that could earn them money, it;s much worse paying taxes

>>38999608
Total, yes. And how much profit has they made since the project started?

tempiss gold doko? all of the girls are sick and they still hasnt won gold?

>>38999534
Why don’t you have a shift key?

>>38997794
It's fucked how America can just tank any currency they want

>>38999343
proof?

>>38999639
yes, independent contractors, just like hololive

>>38999662
don't try to change the subject

Cover should invest to cgdt/idol/yuri anime shit. Theyve been popular lately like yuri gundam, bocchi

>>38999618
They will probably have a single player mode and one that Connor servers. Kinda like Minecraft on console.

They can use Holoearth as an excuse to make new 3D outfits

>>38999458
T. Glowie

>>38999673
It's the world reserve currency. Nothing will move it short of internal economic upheaval. Rather, the rest of the world moves relative to it.

>>38999662
after today which is still contested, NijiEN has 3 days of cripple gold locked up with Meloco karaoke, mysta handcam cooking, and luca unarchived karaoke
not even gura can contest the last two

>>38999725
I've read a financial book once and deem It's a liability, moron. It doesn't go back to income. HoloEarth are great assets.

>>38999673
I don't see an issue

>>38999672
go back tourist

>>38999651
If they can reduce their tax with it, its already profitable.

>>38999725
Anime is too big of a gamble compared even to games. The ROI just isn't there and the talent is not that experienced in VA work to make a standout anime.

>>38999725
>anime
Isn't a fully animated anime expensive as shit? And the profits are shit until the blueray/dvd sales.
You'd have to cheap out and use 3dcg probably

>>38999728
You mean I could play as Marine in the I'm your trasure box 3D outfit? asking for a friend of course

>>38999794
Answer the question

>>38999725
They should just make a fucking rhythm game. Zero risk, not a huge investment, easy to make, would also be good as advertising...

>>38999792
It's not like Americans are the ones deciding. Rather those who wear the trappings of America

>>38999802
This unless you make it a movie. Standard anime is just advertisement to the medium.

>>38999725
>invest to anime
>when anime is currently just glorious and super expensive ads
Hololive doesn't need more promotion especially expensive one

>>38999725
An anime would probably cost even more money than holoearth, and worse yet they won't see any money from doing so outside of increasing mindshare which they already have plenty of

>>38999833
They can re-use the HoloEarth assets for that too, hell, they can make the girls skins and the default the HoloEarth OC

>>38998411
Do you think Cover is growing this much too? Anycolor almost did as much revenue in the first two quarters this year as Cover did in the entire year last year.

>>38999815
I'm saying that they you could play as Noel or Shion in the I'm your trasure box 3D outfit

>>38999751
Gura Christmas karaoke can probably beat Mysta handcam cooking, but who knows when she is back.

Mumei has a karaoke coming up so she might steal a day if lucky, but yeah with Fauna going on break, HoloEN is looking pretty bleak until Christmas week.

>>38999833
Just put a rhythm minigame in Holoearth kek

>>38999809
And they are already making money from bds with their concerts so an anime makes no sense from a financial perspective. And even less sense from ab advertisement perspective given that their own talents are better advertisement than anything they can pay for

if your player base is just gachis it will never work, and I don't believe outsiders will play a game with PS2-like graphics and wooden mechanics, kek

>>38999827
nigger go back
stop embarrassing yourself with this faggotry

>>38999725
Anime exists to sell merch, not for the money they make on people watching live or bluray sales. Hololive already has the advertising mechanism they need to sell merch so an anime would be a needless expenditure.

>>38999925
Luna's character is playing the piano in the first trailer. That is possible

>>38999611
Just don't look at EN tho

>>38999904
She said saturday or sunday so it's going up against either Mysta handcam or Luca karaoke and would lose to either
Which is a shame but oh well

>>38997511
I have no intention on checking fujobaitfaggots but the girls have potential to be fine chuubas which by niji EN standards means like 1K+ at least.

>>38999885
>as Cover did in the entire year last year
And so do Anycolor themselves, anon. They basically had quite similar revenue last year. So to answer your question, yes I do.

>>38999933
So defensive over a broken shift key rumao

>>38999725
Anime nowadays are mostly used as advertisement for another IP like manga/LN/games, otherwise it's not very profitable. That's why you don't see many original anime in the first place.

>/#/ - Numbers
>thread is lacking in numbers

Silly numbers thread.

>>38999618
Genshin costs are due to marketing, since the game barely gets new features

>>38999999
>>39000000
script?

>>39000000
Alright who got it?

>>38998982
>shitty Genshin clone
Funny you should say that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdPH_9W9DM

>>38999851
>>An anime would probably cost even more money than holoearth
This isn't true. Anime is fairly cheap to make and they don't have to spend money on Seiyuu since they already have them on roster. It just doesn't have the same ROI as other riskier investments that have higher chances of at least breaking even to allow for a studio cash out.

>>39000001
bro you suck at this, give up already because this is just sad now on how many times you failed now.

>>38999885
It's kind of hard to see where Cover will get the growth from. Anycolor released a whole new successful branch in that time which accounts for a lot of their growth. What did Cover do?

Haachama just said she wants to visit Holostars MC server

>>38999885
Cover almost tripled. Anycolor only doubled

>>39000068
Released Tempiss

>>38999725
Anime is just a very expensive ad made to shill merch and source material for an unknown franchise

>>39000061
It costs on average 200k for a 25 minute episode, fuck off

>>39000061
>fairly cheap to make
If you want your brand to be a laughing stock and advertise via SOVL animation, then sure.

>>39000036
If they can do even a fourth of genchink, I'll be satisfied.

>>39000068
HoloX is pretty successful. ID3 too but I think they make peanuts in comparison to EN and JP.

>>39000087
Would they even let her? Didn't Ollie had a breakdown because she couldn't visit their server or something?

>>39000061
>cheap to make
Despite looking like it, hologra and UMISEA shorts are not anime

>>39000066
Are you retarded?

No seriously, are you RETARDED?

Also, 38999999 is also mine

>>39000149
She wouldn't be allowed. Some of the Holostars have a reverse-unicorn stance of no girls.

>>9000000
>>39000000
Fun fact it took us a little over a year to get three million posts on this board

>>39000149
The other way. She wanted to invite the stars to the ID server, but the merger happens to fast for all of them to see it

>>39000165
There might be 2 retards on this board with broken shift keys.
You never know!

>>38999565
Not just Christmas, I'd argue this is the lowest point in HoloEN's entire existence.

>>38999992
>3 weeks
>not even 1M views
>calls it magnum opus
roru roru rumao

lel

>>39000161
I mean they are, anime just means animation. They're not full on episodes.

>>39000193
Would you argue that when HoloEN didn't exist proper and was just Coco and Haachama it wasn't as low?

>80k likes
I think this is the best one

>>39000029
too bad western trannies and chinese nationalists didn't agree with him...

>>39000217
>this was deleted at lightning speed

>>39000246
If only Tweet numbers amounted to anything

>>39000252
America loves hololive tho

>>39000246
Why are Nijifags trying to convince people Yugo was important to them? She had less collabs than fucking Sana.

>>39000246
80k is like 5th highest.
Uki's is at 115k and everyone in Noctyx is over 100k.

>>39000237
What kind of bullshit question is that? Coco Haachama were just JPs who spoke English sometimes, they weren't an EN branch.

>>39000061
Anime is very expensive. A 12-episode anime costs $2m on average to make, and that's with subpar animation quality. Kyoani and ufo table tier quality animes cost even more
Now let's say they spend that much money to make an anime. What would they get in return?
Exposure? Hololive is already very popular, look at comiket.
BD sales? They would break even or warn some money, but that would still have low ROI
Merch sales? They can already sell out their merch

>>39000313
>She had less collabs than fucking Sana.
I get your point but there's no way this is true.
Sana was fucking atrocious.

>>39000149
>>39000185 me
https://youtu.be/DS19hfudlVs
Maybe you are correct, but she didn't have a breakdown

>>39000363

>>39000246
>holo big numbers tweet
>100k+ - 491k
>niji big numbers tweet
>sub 50k

>>39000313
Yugo got more cripple golds than Sana by spamming telephone collabs

>>39000246
so fake

>>39000246
5k streamer btw

>>39000180
Like ... 60% of those are fucking trash ...

>>39000246
>This moment belongs to them and them alone
>Tweets about it anyway

>>39000385
>Sana talking about how she thinks she made lifelong friends in Council during their 6th month anniversary
Bitch, you weren't even here for half the time.
Also left before the 1 year anniversary too, which undoubtedly fucked with plans.

>>39000176
>Some of the Holostars have a reverse-unicorn stance of no girls.
It’s just shogun, no?

>>39000000
>deleted
What did you expect?

I'm still kind of impressed with how NijiEN has done. When it was first announced I legitimately expected it to be a complete flop on the level on NijiIN/EN/IN and they would be 2 views or maybe 3 views. Their attempts to break into foreign markets with IN/KR/ID failed to get any real traction so it seemed almost certain they'd just flop again to me.

>>39000288
>America
>western trannies
Anon, I ...

>>39000467
Does anyone think this is natural?

>>39000467
Did they have dedicated KR/ID/IN clippers?

>>39000467
It's covers fault for not solidifying the EN market first by striking the iron when it was hot with multiple debuts

>>39000495
Myth's popularity wasn't natural either so who cares?

>>39000464
IDK which ones, I just know it's at least one person who won't do collabs with girls. A few of them will do collabs with girls outside of Hololive but not Holos, presumably to avoid antis.

>>39000531
One thing is being the first in the market and another is gaining traction due to a seemingly unintended viewer base but sure

>>39000107
>>39000121
>>39000161
One of the biggest expenses of anime is the voice cast. When you set that aside (because of course you would use the talents that are already there), the costs aren't as big anymore. A cheap AAA game (think FPS and shit) costs something like $50m before marketing budgeting. I believe only anime movies (the most expensive form of anime productions with high frame count) normally even get up to that level.

I think the most an anime has ever cost is still under $30M, and that's a 2-cour+ affair at that point. Games that aren't indie tier break that budget on the regular.

>>39000520
>EN market

>>39000467
first mover vs second mover (holoen shaped eop market)

>>39000467
It's barely a year and you got 3views already. Myth was also a massive success in their first year. It's the second year which determines longevity.

>>39000531
wtf are you talking about. it was

>>39000531
>not natural
>literally brought vtubers to a wider stage globally
>meanwhile nijiEN leeches over the success brought for it
lol

>>39000495
>received mandate of heaven through total luck, a coouple months post debut
>lost it not even a year later
I dunno, is it?

>>39000514
Hana did, but they kind of vanished when Holo EN debuted.

>>39000531
Oh hey I know this, it's right out of the nijinigger playbook

Why is Kiara such a whore? Discuss.

>>39000627
Because Hana wasn't ID she was EN lite in a platform that had close to 0 EN chuubas and let's be real it was her dad that brought in the views but we all know how that turned out

unrelated, but how do you check real time subscriber count

>>39000531
>>39000619
I was refering to how suddenly, put of nowhere a nijinigger who's totally not a niji fan makes a post in numbers that's just sucking nijien cock, but go on I guess

damn, the sisters were brutal

>>38997899
>I just see it as her being restless about company restrictions

She's not doing much over there that Cover wouldn't be okay with though at least in terms of streams because the concert stuff is just pure vanity shit so she could feel like a "real" artist.

>>39000677
Be the channel owner

>>39000705
Based

>>39000706
Anon the primary thing she uses her roommate channel for is to stream games cover can't get the perms to, like MGR and god of war

>>39000465
Why the fuck would you name your child 'Bingbong' that's disrespectful as fuck

>>39000761
She also uses to Collab with people that holofans are not big fans off

>>39000669
fuck of with this shit nigga
disgusting

>>39000337
>spoke English sometimes
>sometimes
This is the kind of people we have now in this thread, wow.

It's too bad Zaion is a Genshin-focused content creator. She would have been perfect for EN3

>>39000827
No, she wouldn't.

>>39000761
It's honestly weird that they couldn't get GoW perms

>>39000827
>She would have been perfect for EN3
She's a Genshit focused content creator anon, no Genshit streamer is perfect for anything other than being a waste

>>39000847
Sony doesn't give perms freely

I always wonder why hololive is so deboosted on twitter. They should be getting way more likes for all it's worth.

>>39000847
Sony has always been a bitch with permissions, not only are they time limited but generally they are also limited to a specific talent. Miko couldn't continue streaming uncharted because perms ran out, for instance.

>>39000906
Gachis and Ojisans don't spend their time on social media unlike Fujos

>>39000872
>>39000841
She would unironically be the best at zatsus

>less than 6 months and already inching towards 3 view territory
How do we fix them, bros?

>>39000591
>One of the biggest expenses of anime is the voice cast.
That's only around 10% of the cost
>On April 6 2021, the representative director of animation company Jichitai Anime, Naoya Ishikawa, released a full breakdown of the production costs on Twitter for the latest OVA the company released. The OVA "Shichigahama de Mitsuketa" was produced alongside the town of Shichigahama in Miyagi prefecture to look at the town 10 years after the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami and released on YouTube on March 10.
Pic related is the breakdown translated
Anime is expensive and useless for hololive

>>39000962
Kaela has better English

>>39000827
>e would have been perfect for EN3
Rye converting into a fleshstreamer really broke your mind, huh? Now you're just shooting in the dark, calling anyone who caught your attention perfect for EN3.

>>39000906
The weird thing is the fanart does very well. Just doesn't translate to their tweets, HoloJP in particular.
It's the opposite where Pekora will have 30k viewers but struggle to get 10k like tweets.

>>39000972
Scarle has been a 3view since her 2nd week. You're late to the program.

>>39000972
Can't fix Iluna, it brought the Niji house down. We wouldn't be doomposting Nijisanji if only they didn't release this atrocity

>>39001011
Nah she's just a good streamer and a Japanese hag which would be a good addition to HoloEN

>>39001000
Kek no way

>>39001000
They're not talking about the purple one. Grey one, who is a native EN speaker. Probably Japanese American.

>>39000972
you can't
sad this was they debuted at the same time as tempus and it only made them look much worse

>>39000087
>No post in /global/, her own general and /jp/

>>39001017
I wonder maybe they are shadowbanned
or likes are hidden just like ccv on youtube

Vtuber = racist

.t lsf

ACCELERATE

>>39001080
Oh yeah, a genchink streamer would be good for hololive. Of course, what impeccable reasoning.