/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Fauna streaming with no overlap isn't >overperforming kek

MASAKA!
>THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!
I wonder of anons from June and July would believe if I sent this screenshot back in time!

>kobo's fans made orisong for her birthday
Well they are dedicated

>>38952588
I agree, she's so strong 10k ASMR is nothing to her lately

>>38952625
The babies are too powerful this month

>>38952625
Should put Iono in thumbnail

>female japanese
>brainwashed by woke western culture
I mean Yugo is extreme cases, being woke as Japanese is achievement of retardation. I'm not surprised someone like her graduating

>>38952625
Based baby > IPO scam asset

my cute wife

>>38952712
Kek that image

where's Yugo?

my cute wife

>>38952786
yugonnah have to get a replacement.

7-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLBsyAE628
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>38952625
Post Flare cause she is even more of a runt than Luna

>>38952738
GET WELL SOON AND PRACTICE MARIO KART ON STREAM!

>>38952738
>She doesn't want to be an Idol...

Yugo could be saved if she got a taste of mating press. I have seen multiple cases of confused tomboy get cured by having normal sex, they just need to let their female instinct released

>>38952786
Applied to EN3

>>38952468
I respect this dude for spending every of his waking day drawing Pekora. He probably already sketching the next Pekora art

>>38952948
>Accepted at IdolEN*

I think Koyori should pee herself during ASMR stream, you know, as proof of her dedication to her fans

get the rope ritualposters. Not giving a (you) to your reclining oshis

>No goodbye from Axia
>No goodbye from Yugo
How's the niji bootlickers doing?

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1603044366767226882
>マリカ大会の為にずっとずっと練習してきてたのですが、参加はできないことになりました。楽しみにしてくれていたみんなビックリさせてごめん。。僕もまだショックですが、でもまたいつか参加出来る日がくるまで練習を続けようと思います
I will never forgive Towa and sidebranch trash for taking her spot

>>38952625
>anyblack shares dumped, price tanked
>salami ccv reclined
anyblack stock = salami ccv

>>38953039
>I'm still in shock
Why the fuck it sound like she got kicked out?
Also it feel like she's an outcast

>>38952738
>>38952798
we love your cute wives

>>38953039
woah, this is kinda bad

>>38953039
Anime Katana just can't get a break...

>>38953039
Deserved! Amane kanatach is the downfall of Rust hype

>>38953088
>Why the fuck it sound like she got kicked out?
Maybe because she actually got kicked out?

why did they announce both axia and yugo's graduation announcement when trades are closing

>>38952948
Fuck that shit. Might as well add Tempiss2 while you're at it.

>>38953039
why even bother including worthless ID to the superior JP players. they should really stop with this inclusion shit

Wait, I was told this guy was gonna be the next Vox. What the hell are these shitty numbers for a 100k celebration stream?

Funny that out of the male members from xsoleil, only Hex is talk about more frequently than the girls.

>>38953088
Anon, it's a mistranslation.
She's saying sorry to all those surprised by it.

>>38953170
Why do you assume that Kanata is a case of 'not enough space' instead of 'something came up'?

>>38953215
>already doing celebrations
The nijiEN special

>>38953215
He fucked massively by streaming in NA time. All while trying to pander to chinks

>>38952738
Will never be an idol

>>38953032
no refunds

WELLLLLLLLLLLLL!?!?!?!??!
>WHO IS THE BULLY NOW, HUH?!
WHO IS THE ONE EATING COLD NOODLES ALONE NOW, BITCH?!
(Someone post *that* webm of the bully Sasaki for those who don't know it)

>everyone in nijien having a collective breakdown because of yugo graduation
This is pathetic even when sana graduated we didnt get this kind of reaction from holoen

>>38952661
Why can't the other IDs get the same amount of love as her

>>38953336
Still waiting for more accurate version where Ame is cucked by Kobo

>>38953336
What made her think this was a good idea, and how the fuck did she get away with it?

>>38953215
>100k celebration
LMAO, not even Tempus did a 100k celebration stream. At least he's like Vox in that regard.

>>38953408
Are the other ID girls cute lolis? Didn't think so.

>>38952862
He already did that last thread

>>38953425
I wonder that everytime I'm reminded it happened
Literally NO reason beyond wanting to fuck with teamates lmao

>>38953098
>we
One is literally called debuffson. The other one is on her way to becoming debuffson 2.0.

>>38953425
>got away with it
roru rumao

# love my cute mistress ;3

>>38953374
Damn, why is Rust even a buff for Luna anyways? She don't do shit besides farming and building her base.

>>38953408
I guess you didnt see what all SEAChubbas and her fans did for her

>>38953301
Read her tweet. Do you really think someone not participating because 'something came up' would tweet that?

>>38953215
>debut buff
>100k celebration buff
>male in manjisanji buff
If I'm not mistaken, that's just Vesper's regular zatsu numbers back then. This guy reclining already?

Is ID2 still the worst performing branch in Hololive?

>>38953088
She's shocked because I proposed. We scheduled our marriage on the same day as the Marika tourney so she can't join sadly.

>>38952468
Chances of holoEN3 being announced on Super EXPO like downroar

>>38953336
Can this woman be an idol?

>>38953408
Ollies fans did a pretty good song for her

>>38953518
Rust savior arc + comfy stream buff.

>>38953484
probably thought of something along the lines of
>if I collab with them, it will show them that I'm not in a relationship with a possessive bf

>>38953498
Mooms is fine

>>38953603
I hope they wouldn't be that stupid

>>38953374
here it goes mate!
https://streamable.com/dkwjgr

Funniest part is that this was likely made by Holo lads taking the piss and having some fun as Niji lads can't meme to save their lives.
If they knew how to meme this good they wouldn't have lost all of their western mindshare

>>38953551
Yeah 3view all over the place

>>38953603
It's gonna be JP7 on expo

>>38953603
EN3 should be released about six weeks beforehand so the girls can do a watchalong and get excited to do idol stuff next year.

>>38953603
Tempiss is EN3

Lurking in the /nijien/ thread I am pretty sure a lot of them secretly watch holoJP or EN.

>>38953637
Being a 5k shitter is not fine.

>>38953039
yonkisei unity…

>>38953518
>She don't do shit besides farming and building her base.
Luna found her niche as a comfy streamer.

>>38953718
holoEN = hololive, retard.

>>38953039
She failed Suisei's friendship test

>>38953742
Anon, /nijien/ is just the thread for contrarians. /hlgg/ doesn't watch holo streams, but /nijien/ doesn't watch niji streams yet DOES watch holos.

>>38953603
I still cant believe how they wasted a big event to announce a bunch of flops

>Aki wants to revive ARK arc
>Luna wants to revive Rust arc
Which one should they choose /#/?

>>38953867
Hlgg was really silent when the marika collab was going on just now.

>>38953951
RUST is far superior for numbers.

>>38953951
Neither, Holos are too busy right now to make either game fun.

>>38953976
Cause global is a EN general at the end of the day. People who wanna livepost JP streams mainly does it over in /jp/.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>65,176: Pekora (Hololive)
>53,514: Miko (Hololive)
>38,004: Miko (Hololive)
>37,256: Okayu (Hololive)
>30,290: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,824: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,805: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,166: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,728: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>18,028: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,986: Nene (Hololive)
>14,763: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,221: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,148: Botan (Hololive)
>12,193: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,117: Flare (Hololive)
>11,932: Mio (Hololive)
>11,842: Saku (Nijisanji)
>11,438: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,041: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>10,442: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,398: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,259: NeruMero (Indie)
>10,176: Sasaki (Nijisanji)

Peko-Miko-Miko for the podium with an ABSURDLY HIGH tally with 30k not making into the top 5

>>38953867
>/hlgg/ doesn't watch holo streams
what?

>>38954030
It's not even a full EN general. /hlgg/ is basically myth + mumei general with a little bit of fauna at times.

>>38954055
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Miko, Mio, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
54x: Pekora
23x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38953215
I'm still waiting for the Yugo graduation pre-celebration stream and the actual celebration stream.

>>38954030
>mainly does it over in /jp/.
You surely mean
>in the numbers thread

>>38954055
>11,041: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
who?

>>38953976
Why would they watch that when they could watch Reine playing Persona. Or Mori playing Persona. Like they actually have an alternative because they actually understand what the talents are saying. The announcement was mentioned, not sure what more you want

>>38954055
"King" status?

>>38952738
man, i thought the idol costume+shirt looked kinda goofy before but it looks really good here

>>38953951
None, return to comfy block game

>>38954123
Niji’s other vampire.

>>38954123
Korone's niji brother

>>38954100
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
227x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa, Korone
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
226x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
41x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

Pekobronze bros...

>>38953867
/hlgg/ is ame, gura and mumei general anon

>>38954090
So basically the entire thread is filled by the old anons who moved to /vt/ once it was made and there are no new bloods in the thread?

>>38954170
>>38954171
oh its a guy? Nijisanji really has a lot of literally whos

>>38954055
>with 30k not making into the top 5
Uhhh, but all 30k+ streams made it into top 5?

>>38954030
O people just not know hlgg is the EN split of hlg? Why do they keep whining about them not watching JP streams

>>38953791
Is this why she keeps playing that fishing game for weeks?

Tempiss status?

Luna Kaela kino!

>>38953725
Get better jokes.
>I'm not-
Don't care, kys.

kobo ticked another 10k
i thought she's reclining

>>38954367
Cope and seethe

This luna and kaela interaction is wholesome

https://youtu.be/dKX0m7lEMlo
I wonder how big of a joke Omega is if this is how the girls react to his name

>>38954278
Hlgg welcomed the discussion of everyone including JP and ID back when it was still in /jp/. I never went there again after /vt/ was created so I have no idea how it changed.

>>38954055

>>38954236
30000 wouldn't have made

>>38954055
>>38954432

>>38954430
Not really, back then was all about Honorary ENs.

>>38954055
HOLO SWEEP

>>38954467
>>38954055

>>38954236
Exactly 30k would put you on 6th, to be on top 5 you need to beat Kuzuha's number. Come on Anon, it's not quantum physics.

>>38954130
No longer bronze. He should be Copper

>>38953546
Mysta is sucking up all the tourists, plus Hex is trying to be Vox in EN hours.

Anycolor trending

>>38954130
Pauper

>>38954551
>>38954055

It's unironically over for HoloEN. 8/10 niji top10 holy crap.

>>38954382
She is. She's still gaining tho

>>38954646
That's not the actual top 10 you absolute ape, ther e are streams from the previous day in there. You might still be right, but at least be correct with your fucking screencap

>>38953820
What happened between Suisei and Kanata anyway

>>38954646
Did you forgot someone?

>>38954594
Seems a lot of fans are mad that
1. He got fired for ambiguous reasons
2. Anycolor used the term "graduation" when it was really a termination
3. Fans were not given a notice or time frame to archive Yugos VODs before deletion

>>38954646
Lmao minus one female though

>>38954626
>>38954055

>>38954646
>3 streams from the 13th
God you Nijinigs are retarded.

>>38954646
>4-6k
Even for debut week that's pretty good.

>>38954710
Suisei said Kanata was so bad at Mario Kart that she should be ashamed of herself

>>38954123
what the fuck is that name kek

>>38954646
>calendar reps...

>>38954764
Zaion actually keeps inclining.

>>38954743
>>38954055

>>38953215
>celebrating 100k when you're in a major corpo
Really?

>>38952948
perfect pair with Kronii

>>38954764
Thats what Tempus had and now they're 1-3k shitters.

>>38954646
I'm sure all of these are completely natural and not unnaturally boosted by Raids and Zs

>>38954785
>Mori 3k

Holy decline.

>>38954763
Proof next thread?

>>38954785
>mori is the runt of holoen now

>>38954792
>>38954055

>>38953039
>>38953290
>>38953301
>マリカ大会の為にずっとずっと練習してきてたのですが、参加はできないことになりました。楽しみにしてくれていたみんなビックリさせてごめん。。僕もまだショックですが、でもまたいつか参加出来る日がくるまで練習を続けようと思います
>For the sake of MK tournament I have relentlessly trained but turns out I'm unable to participate. I'm sorry for disappointing those who were looking forward to it. I myself am still in shock, but I will continue practicing until the day I can participate.

Nowhere does it say she couldn't participate because of something that came up from her side. She herself was surprised by the decision so it's something from the organizer's side.

>>38953551
Yes. Risu and Iofi are worst on an individual level but Moona raises them above ID2's average.

>>38954055
Wait I thought Miko had mogged Pekora by they way people were talking about it.

>Mysta absolutely mogging Vox since he came back
I guess this is the same situation where Mysta has always mogged Vox but kindred sisters always try and cope saying other things

>>38953215
He sucks. He's too predatory even dumb girls can see that. In general Xsoleil males are a flop. But girls are great.

>>38954785
>JP only stream does better than the fucking EN zatsu
kek
>the SCs though
Does anyone have the "yellow monkey supa ah ah ah" screencap

>>38953742
Most of the fans of the girls also watch Hololive, or used to. The Luxiem sisters do not.

>>38954861
>>38954055

Great fucking segue Gundou-san
Very reassuring

>>38954843
? It's just paraphrased of what definitely fucking happened newfag.

>>38954785
Barely different.

>>38954646
Zaion needs some correction to deal with her privated VOD problem

>>38953336
i still think this anon has saved cuck porn in his PC

>>38954055
Is this real?

The 1st week multipov collab is coming soon. Will they score higher than Iluna back then?

>>38954917
>>38954055

>>38954925
Nijisanji is not an idol company btw.

>>38954925
IPO is asking for Holo numbers, I see.

>>38954925
>hololite

>>38954952
She's another Enna she's going to be big.

>>38954946
>Still no proof

>>38954973
Oh man, that's always my favorite part. Anycolor just throwing them to the wolves to see who are the shitters and who they are gonna support going forward.

>>38954984
>>38954055

>>38953039
>trusting guguru tl

>>38953387
it's because they are "family", and family worry about each other

>>38954430
You can talk about anyone there, but there's not enough critical mass of people watching say a regular Luna or Flare stream to have a discussion. ENs and IDs have multiple people watching and understanding what is happening.

>>38954785
Are there really no non-Luxiem Niji in the top 10? Did this new wave actually start cannibalizing existing fanbases unlike Iluna?

>>38953290
>僕もまだショックですが
no it's fucking not

>>38955017
Jesus christ someone tell this faggot what happened im not dealing with this shit

>>38954973
Maybe maybe not, but they will have way better numbers after a month. They are all way better than Iluna girls.

Be real with me
Is NijiEN on the verge of overtaking HoloEN? Does accelerate work?

>>38954973
Is their game of choice also one that should be streamed with only 1 POV since there's no difference at all?

>>38955043
>>38954055

>>38954973
>Multiple povs for iluna picopark collab
Is Paul Li retarded? Can he at least numberfag right

>>38954879
in the same collab, Miko got 10k more than Pekora

>>38955101
Verge? They took over a while ago, man.

>>38955126
how will they get donations?????

>>38955101
any day now!

>>38954785
>leaving off Pippa

>>38955060
Excluding the new wave obviously.

>>38955101
Maybe. No.
HoloEN is just imploding.

>>38955103
>>38954055

>>38955067
you're misremembering things. their rift didn't happened in mario kart arc

>>38952972
Art made by actual fans is the best.

>>38955067
I'm just baiting you and want to start the timeloop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWBaDPqti4&t=2444s

>>38955101
I dunno.

Ask again when there's more than 3 HoloEn members active and 1 of them is the bottom in live views (mori)

>>38955194
>>38954055

>>38955199
What the fuck are you talking about don't samefag post at me you cretin.
Someone tell this fag what happened because it was only fucking two years ago and Kanata literally said it on fucking stream the fucking reason fucking why

>>38955027
Why spend 6 months training 1 gen when you could just debut 3 waves and have the law of the jungle decide which one stays and which ones get yugo'd while earning money during the live trial?

JWU
Has there been any holo vs holo today?

>>38955101
In total watched hours? Already happened

>>38954973
Why are you only comparing the females anyway?

>>38954710
no one knows. Rrat says that they had a fight over Mario Kart, with Kanata being terrible and Suisei being good or something, yet they collabed shortly after the supposed "fight"

>>38955252
>>38954055

>>38955278
Don't care about the homos, simple as

>>38955101
The only advantage HoloEN has is more views per streamer and that's ratiocope.

>>38954822
Orange man and Hand guy are already in 3view territory on occasion

>>38954925
Yeah honma instead should be doing idol reps

>>38955101
They do have 30 streamers so they will soon reach a stage where everyday there is at least either a birthday / unarchived karaoke / handcam / milestone / offcollab / graduation etc. They will cannibalize each other and majority will be sub 5k shitters but they might completely dominate the tally with their tourist/gimmick streams.

>>38955304
>>38954055

My daughterwife had a great and fun day today, I hope anons had a great day too

>>38954130
Demoted to Pekora's bodyguard

>>38955373
>>38954055

>>38955376
I hope we get another Karashi. Chama needs some closer friends.

>>38955101
Non-shitpost answer... maybe. You can definitely argue that they have more tourist draw right now, or at least the top do. That being said, HoloEN is currently at what is probably the lowest point in its existence, plus NijiEN is running off of an unusual number of buffs right now, including even a new drama buff from a graduation/termination. We won't know the real state until things go back to normal for HoloEN (if they go back to normal, I'm not sure they can even stop the bleeding right now).

I'm sick of pekolewds

>>38955101
maybe next year sister

>>38954879
Just shit posting. Miko, Marine, Subaru beating Pekora is not something rare, it does happen. Miko also as her Fuecoco buff going, December pretty much belongs to her. We will see how things turn out afterwards though.

>>38955416
>>38954055

>>38955376
Haachama can be so cute sometimes... Wow, I did have a fun day, thank you chammers

what's the drama?

>>38955549
Yugo got fired, they framed it as a graduation, people are mad

>>38954069
Is more like schizo containment thread except it doesn't contain anything. Some people do try to talk about streams but schizos quickly jump on them and mods are inconsistent as fuck.

>>38955491
>>38954055

>>38955549
They shot Yugo

>>38955549
I got caught having sex with upper management.

>>38953508
Did she not? Her numbers at least seem like one of the least affected since post summer recline seen across the scene. Shes gone down but its so small it can basically be chalked up to summer being over unlike Kronii or Mumei who both torpedod their numbers since then.

>>38955549
People are pissed that they labeled it a graduation when in reality they fired his ass.

>>38955574
>>38954055

>>38955605
Because she's already at her fucking floor almost every goddamn stream with how hard she's filtered people

>>38955643
So what youre saying is she got away with it

I'm still surprised that HoloEN management looked at the numbers and thought just debuting Tempus would fix it. They should've debuted both en3 and Tempus this year and the current situation where 6/10 are sick and not many streams would've been fixed

>>38955643
If she can survive off memberships alone then she'll continue to AmeWay till the end of time

>>38955643
Isn’t she teasing the return of members only ASMR or some shit? I recall that she found it cringy.

>>38955626
>>38954055

>>38955549
Probably they're fuming because Kurosanji labelled the termination as "graduation", in order to damage control and prevent investors from selling their stock due to bad PR.
And some retarded LGBT reason as well

>>38955376
Just wondering, is haachama the member who gets along with others the most? Everyone is just nice around to her and treats her with so much consideration, it's kind of weird... Except marine.

>>38955824
>>38954055

To think Zeta ended up being the weakest of her gen. Debut numbers usually don't miss by that much.

>>38955101
well, this year alone they got the top in
>watch hours
>streamed hours
>vod views
>outfit reveal peaks
>events and collabs
the only remaining metrics left are ccv cripple monthly gold and the most cope metric ever, median/average that incentivizes:
>not streaming consistently
>low amounts of stream
>short streams
>low quantity of members
and they will never acknowledge branch-wide achievements because they have an extremely divisive fanbase and their whores are selfish bitches

>>38955624
>his ass
I'd tap it

>>38955873
>>38954055

>>38954925
bets on how well this will age in a year or so?

>>38955900
To be fair, Keala's debut was kinda atrocious

>>38955861
Moona wins in that regard.

>>38954311
>Is this why she keeps playing that fishing game for weeks?
That and Skylines. People like watching her play zero-stress games.

>>38955950
>>38954055

>>38955861
>Except marine.
What do you mean by that?

>>38955967
>There's 150 of us. It's impossible to force all of us into idols
MASS "GRADUATION" INCOMING

>>38956119
Who?

>>38955984
Did moona ever interact with the people from Gen 0,1 and 2?

>>38955861
she's so cute that she's like a little sister to everyone. You can't be mad at her.

>>38955549
Adding to what everyone else said, they also wiped all videos from his channel instantly, giving people no chance to archive them.

>>38955900
Zeta isn't even bad or anything she beats out anyone from other Gens not named Moona and honestly does better than Moona most of the time too. It's just we didn't know Kaela would stream 16 hours a day and attract a special kind of autistic audience.

>>38956015
>>38954055

>>38956155
miko, fbk, shuba

>>38956103
That marine isn't a nice person and isn't nice to anyone in hololive, even to the sweetest people like sora or haachama or even Noel

>>38955549
Yugoslavia has fallen

>>38954925
I wonder if Hologirls would complain or be strongly against it if Hololive went semi idol route after they got big
By now, it's probably written in their contracts for them to participate in HoloFes, but before Yagoo decided to go the semi idol route I'm sure it's not really a requirement for Hologirls to sing and dance

>>38954925
>>38955967
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>BASED WHORE WHISTLEBLOWER
BASED WHORE WHISTLEBLOWER
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>BASED WHORE WHISTLEBLOWER

>>38956220
>>38954055

>>38956229
Yeah no I don't see it, haachama is more spread out than moona but haachama is a jp so if you're talking about I'd and en only, I'd agree it's moona.

>>38955753
>HoloEN management looked at the numbers
What makes you think they did that?

>>38956280
>>38954055

>>38955967
is she trying to jinx it?

>>38956253
Hololive relies on peer pressure. They don't tell you that you *have* to dance or sing or participate, but everyone else is doing it so you'd be the odd one if you sat it out. Also yes they do tell you up front to start learning that kind of thing, they told Ame to start taking singing lessons when they hired her.

>>38955967
>There's 150 of us. It's impossible to force all of us into idols
Yeah, the ones that don't accept being idols don't get a contract renewal. Gundou is fucking stupid

>>38956296
Oh, they absolutely did. They look at Luxiem numbers and thought they can easily replicate it. So they went with just tempiss without any plan B.

>>38956323
>>38954055

>>38954925
>I dont wanna dance
is she fat or what?

>>38955967
>It's impossible to force all of us into idols

>>38956253
Bloom was completely voluntary, and iirc Watame and some others didn't participate in it.
Holofes iirc is the only mandatory thing, and that started around late 2019, right after Sankisei debut.

>>38956409
>>38954055

>>38955900
I thought Kaela would be the weakest of ID3 at the time
I'M SORRY KAELA

>>38956253
This is one of the most posts I've read in this thread.
This just goes to show that people don't watch streams or at least don't understand what's happening in streams.
You do realize that jp-wise at least, nijisanji and hololive aren't that different if you tske the "idol" part away right? Nijisanji doesn't have the idol thing for them, but on day to day basis holos aren't that different from some nijis, you think holos don't make dirty jokes or sex jokes? Even pekora does it every now and then.
I see this all the time
>niji behavior
But people don't know what that fucking means, especially those who through the "niji behavior" thing around, its just the same people who unironically think that Sara is a slut/whore just because people parrot that all the time.
To reiterate, this is for the JP SIDE ONLY

>>38956367
I think she means the PR hit of like 20 longtime members quitting over a short span would be more than Niji would be willing to accept. They're more likely to just shove all the non-participating people into their own "just streamer" category and stop giving them much support, like they did with ID/KR.

>>38955753
Debuting Tempus probably was to enlarge the fanbase with new fans without competing with Myth and Council.
A new female EN3 MIGHT end up hurting both gens is they're not in good shape.
Tempus should attract a different demographic.

>>38956296
Tempus are failing in Subs, SCs, CCV, Vod views, you name it. There's no way they haven't looked at ANY of the metrics.

>>38953641
explain why that would be a mistake
ID3 debuted post holofes and was the biggest hit of that branch

>>38956253
Okayu said a quite a long time ago that she thought about quitting when she was told she had to perform for Holofes 1 (she wasn’t really a singer back then iirc).

>>38955967
Didn't one of them quit because his fans were crazy and he diidn't want to follow the directive of pandering to them?

>>38956457
How the fuck are you reading any of that into his comment?

>>38953425
She didn't get away with it. The infighting that caused was absurd, and it only made all the following drama worse. I honestly think the wormstroneer arc wouldn't have had half the shitposting if not for this and the improve yourself fuckup. I think the only thing she accomplished was driving people away from HIM. If you ever want a laugh, go back through the archives to the moment it happened. The cope you read after the fact doesn't matter in the face of that in the moment 'god damn it Ame what the fuck' that ensued as soon as everyone heard his voice.

>>38956450
>>38954055

>>38956468
No one streams enough for EN3 to hurt anything. They might occasionally get into an overlap mess but 80% of the time it won't be an issue. ID has 3 Gens and they ALL stream right on top of each other, and that seems to be ok.

>>38956462
And that's exactly what I was trying to say. They won't get an extension to their yearly contracts and they will get the banishment room treatment until they decide to graduate by themselves or the contract expires
Most of them will accept the idol route because they are starved for money so the lazy ones that don't want to do singing or dancing reps will be a minority

Holy shit people are still running the Suisei/Kanata narrative from 5ch

>>38956474
Failing compared to what? Do you think anyone in management thought they would be 5k streamers?

>>38955566
>>38955624
Cover got so much shit for publicly humiliating and executing Rushia that Anycolor thought it best to avoid it and say it was mutual. I think they made the wrong moral choice but the correct business choice, the execution was horrible. The letter was horrible and written poorly, the timing of the archive wipe, not letting him have any god bye etc.

>>38956538
>>38954055

>>38956155
Aqua....

>>38956625
>him

>>38956509
>what happens if hologirls were forced to go semi idol route
Or whatever the fuck he said.
No one is really forced to attend or do concerts or lives at all except the company wide things like summer fest or holofes.
Its not like nijis aren't forced to attend big company wide events as well.
People treat them differently because they're retarded who have no idea what they're talking about, thr matter or fact is that they're only slightly different, but hololive does what nijisanji does but better, hence why they're more popular numberswise at least

>>38956625
Cover got out of that as well as they could, if they did this kinda shit they would have lost a lot more trust.

>>38955900
homo cumrag deserve nothing less

>>38956621
Compared to potential new gen of girls that should be in their place.

>>38956633
>>38954055

>>38956457
Hory shitto
Are you okay anon? You sound mad as fuck
And did you reply to the wrong post?

>>38956625
Cover got out of the Rushia thing as well as they could have, given the circumstances. Most fans immediately turned on her and took the company's side, except diehard fandead.

>>38956686
Kobo is bigger cumrag than her

>>38956621
They thought they'd attract a new audience when all they did was leech some of the girls audience that are fine with watching males which turned out to be not a lot. They probably thought they could compete with the girls.

>>38956494
and now she already had her 1st sololive, the catto really grew

>>38956687
Do you look at Uproar and think "wow that took that place of JP 8!" Don't be retarded.

>>38956612
>narrative
It actually happened though. Someone even posted the timestamp

>>38956730
Yeah but Kobo is unironically one of the most talented HoloPro members and Zeta is just a cute voice.

>>38956253
>it if Hololive went semi idol route after they got big
That's EXACTLY what happened. Other than Sora and Aqua on teh Holo side and AZKi and Suisei on the INNK side, not a single one of the Holo girls up until gen 5 had ANY expectation that they would have to sing and dance on stage other than maybe (big maybe) once a year on Holofes

It was not until Bloom that it was even a possibility for the other girls, and not until Suisei October 2020 live and Miko October 2020 return made clear that the audience would be pouring money and love over that the girls realize they were sitting in a gold mine.

>I wonder if Hologirls would complain or be strongly against
As anons mentioned, Okayu was full blown despondent, not because she didn't want but because she didn't think she was up to it

>>38956737
>They probably thought they could compete with the girls.
Be serious. It's fucking Holostars.

>>38956777
So where is EN3 then?

>>38956625
>Cover got so much shit
What
>for publicly humiliating
Are you drunk
>and executing Rushi
Am I replying to bait

>>38956777
Anon, the difference is that en management are clearly trying to market them as apart of one big EN group. Also the clear reason why we didn't get EN3 this year because some retard thought they'd be enough for the "EN group".

>>38956737
>tell me you dont watch any streams without telling me you don't watch any streams
Tempus has attracted a new audience retard that is why they can overlap girls and still maintain their viewers, the problem is its not big enough for # thread

>>38956828
The EN scene has no more talent to hire

>>38956820
Okayu finally got into shape right? Seems like it really benefitted her life in more than one way.

>>38956679
The cover up was poorly done, if done right it would work out. Better a few schizo grumbles claiming her/she was fired then what we have now. Every human above the IQ of 85 knows he/she was fired without anyone telling them. >>38956729
It's because Japanese people knew that Rushia was 100% in the wrong. Their reputation still took a hit in the West where 99% of none holofans think she was fired for having a boyfriend. Yeah, Cover did well as HoloFes wiped her name off of people's lips and she has done everything in her power to make the decision look better and better.

>>38954055
>new costume
Man she hates niji mario kart tournament huh

>>38956782
Yeah someone posted the """insult""" timestamp. But it's just a fucking banter and they were still doing collabs after that tournament.

>>38956692
>>38954055

>>38956840
Didn’t work out so well. Its been 2 months since that last collab.

>>38956496
I think the fans were simply the first instance, and according to his genmate (Leos) he was going to return to streaming around mid November, but Anycolor starting a merch run while he was on hiatus without asking him ticked him off enough to want to leave.

>>38955900
I think her content is fine, why won't indobros start watching her like they watch kobo?

>>38956777
>Do you look at Uproar and think "wow that took that place of JP 8!" Don't be retarded.
Not really but you can bet your sweet behind that had HoloX not debuted a couple of months prior there would be the EXACT same level of seething coming from the JP audience
>last Holo gen was in Aug 2020 and you retards debuted THIS?!?! (Uproar!!)

>>38956671
???

>>38956890
Yes but Kanata then rant on her undertale stream that someone she knows insulted her when she got last place playing Marika. I can't think of anyone else except her.

>>38956915
>>38954055

>>38956838
Cover did get shit at first
Mike was humiliated and still seethes about tyhe wording of the announcmement
They chopped her head off without any flowery language

>>38956880
>Okayu finally got into shape right?
Idol reps are a great way to get in shape and with an active life partner like Korone I doubt Okayu would be able to lazy herself around it

>>38956625
Cover got shit only from retards, everyone else thought it was done as tasteful as possible. The difference is that Cover is not a publicly traded company like Kurosanji, so investors don't have them grabbed by the balls.

>>38956882
The people who think she was fired for having a boyfriend don't even watch streams, most of them don't even watch vtubers they just saw a news blurb about it and "blah blah blah idol culture" confirming their existing bias.

>>38956986
>>38954055

>>38956625
The only ones who were upset were EOPs who thought she got executed for having a boyfriend and JP fandeads.

>>38956989
>and still seethes about tyhe wording of the announcmement
Nah, Mike is dumb but what she seethes is more about the **absence** of clear words in the announcement, which allowed for rrats to fester
What she requested was
>PLEASE CLARIFY TO THEM EXACTLY WHAT I LEAKED!
>THEY ARE SPREADING THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HURT THE GIRLS
And Cover replied with
>we said everything we needed to in the original statement.

>>38956890
Combine this timestamp where Suisei makes fun of her being last in the map Kanata bragged she was good at
https://youtu.be/3QWBaDPqti4?t=2444
with this from her undertale stream
https://youtu.be/Vc7lAqsIJfY

>>38955967
>It's impossible to force all of us into idols
dont need to, they will just force the popular ones, aka the ones over 2k

>>38956984
Who knows anon, maybe it happened off stream. Suisei said that because before the race began Kanata gloat that's the map is where she is the best at.

>>38956931
Clearly, but upper management and whoever is behind Omega decided to double down on their mistake and pretend it didn't fall on its face.

>>38957054
>>38954055

>>38957028
Too bad those people are everywhere on Twitter and Youtube

>>38956621
I want to agree with you but if they did then EN3 wouldn't take this long. I don't think tempus took their place but they might've pushed EN3 down the line to pad debuts out.
Unless they're waiting for one of the new girls's old contract to expire.

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1603084059026259968?s=20&t=vixYp9IG5AhelBOq0utGcg
Does the stream on Zutto Mayos channel count for either tally? It’ll be 50% vtuber.

>>38957214
Oh, no; someone took the blame for Tempus failing, we just don't know who.

>>38957175
I know, I'm not blaming Suisei. It's just that the marika thing is definitely one of the reasons of their breakup. Kanata herself ranting about it is a clear evidence.

>>38955573
You are talking about /#/ right?

>>38957274
No. Doubt it would make either anyway.

>>38955821
Not sure but over last year or so she talked about an asmr mic once or twice i recall since someone tried to reco a ku100 since fauna had just gotten one and she shot that down after seeing the tag on it

>>38957236
You can try as much as you can, it wont change the fact that Cover and Hololive came out from that "drama" much better, be it revenue, reputation, market share etc.

>>38957217
>>38954055

>>38957021
>everyone else thought it was done as tasteful as possible
Mike thought it was defamation and has a weekly menhera fit over it. Although she has stopped getting upset over lives and other company events. She did get really sick around the time that fake live fanart was posted though.

W-why is every branch playing P5 except JP?

SMC Live vs Holo karaoke relay, who would win

>>38954055
8-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>38957457
They have better things to do.

>>38957410
What do you mean? Rushia brought home the bacon. The only thing they gained was plugging a leak and throwing a timebomb in the landfill.

>>38957423
>>38954055

>>38957457
They know how cringe P5 is

>>38957523
By that you mean Pokemon?

>>38957457
atlus games don't seem to be actually that popular with them, despite subaru proving there's an audience there

Aside from C*c*, who are the ones who can do a banter with Kanata?

>>38957560
The numbers say yes.

>>38957549
Sankisei improved greatly after her graduation

>>38957557
The most important thing about the games JP girls play is the aesthetic.
It's stylish which means the streams will be pleasant visually.

>>38957610
Everyone except Suisei

So how are the sisters handling that nijisanji is going the idol route? My guess is that they will create separate categories of idols or they will go through a lot of mental gymnastics to redefine what an idol is.

>>38957610
5ch
2ch
Matome

>>38957274
No he would have to be a vtuber himself for it to count.

>>38957623
Only their dancing. Their schedules overlap all the time and each member is getting weaker.

>>38957553
>>38954055

>>38957457
only a few can be entertaining enough to keep playing a story-driven game and the commitment that must go though
to my mind only subaru could do it

>>38957689
she gets happy doing a banter with those?

>>38957610
Marine. Kanata looks like a pain in the ass if she can't handle that banter.

>>38957654
Luxiem sisters don't watch Niji JP in the first place. And they would welcome singing and dancing shit, since that's basically the only stuff they watch in large numbers.

>>38957623
She literally has a manzai with haachama, so haachama

>>38957734
Pekora could if she was still doing weekend games

>>38957727
>>38954055

>>38957610
flare and koyo seemed to be good for her as a trio

>>38957457
>JP
Anon this is the same branch that spends their entire lifetime orbiting first army and 95% of the time will only do what they do in fear they’ll fall behind l

>>38957809 meant for >>38957610

>nabi mama nuked her channel
rrats?

>>38957738
Yes? Or are you telling me people that willingly shitpost in a cambodian basket weaving forum about mongolian cartoon personalities all day are don't get happiness by doing that?

>>38957806
I didn't mean the waves of chink sisters who actuaklly like and watch nijisanji, I meant catalogue and twitter sisters who use nijisanji mostly as a means to insult hololive.

>>38957877
Did she stop streaming?

>>38957877
joining EN3

>>38957645
Isn’t the Suisei thing cause she more or less told her “working hard doesn’t matter if you don’t show results” or something along those lines.

>>38957877
hacked by cryptobros.

>>38957823
pekora does that stuff when she's out of content, that usually happens before mid-year when we have scarcity of new games
right now, there's a lot of new releases and will keep that pace till may

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1NF5hGRDls
Sykuno's most watched Twitch streamer was Ironmouse.
What about yours? Do you even have Twitch accounts anons?

Insider here, Nabi is joining HoloKR

>>38957900
I don't think those are actual Niji fans it's just shitposters. They'll keep shitposting as normal.

>>38957877
Who knows, she's a big menhera so it could be anything.

>>38957925
I have never seen someone posted a timestamp where she said that

>>38957837
>>38954055

>>38957877
in a few hours you will see
>ELON MUSK TALKS ABOUT TESLA 3
>WHAT DOES THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN HOLDS?

>>38957958
>there's a lot of new releases
Yeah, which one is playing the new GoW?

>>38957974
My most watched Twitch streamer is also Ironmouse because I left her "subthon" stream up for like 2 days muted in another tab to see if it would give me a free membership. It did not. Being muted and not watched still counts on twitch though.

>>38957974
No, but I know for a fact that the only streamers I watched on Twitch were Froot (for the redesign) and Vei.

>>38957431
After the Delu shitshow, she burned the little goodwill she had, I wouldn't trust anything she claims. If she has menhera fits over fanart, that's on her.