/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38938199
Does phaseconnect really?

>>38938199
BASADO.

>>38938199
god, tenma such a succubus

>>38938199
BIG BASED TENMA DELIVERS THE TRUTH
YESSIR

If you wanna see hot girl with no face like a VTuber check PanPiano.

And good on Tenma!

>>38938199
ok but some feets pic as a final request please?

>>38938199
nyaru is a good twitch whore if you like fat asses and thighs

>>38938199
The ones on twitch, isn't it obvious?

>>38938426
So Petra?

>>38938199
Mori wish she could be

Is Tenma the only PhaCon who hates Vshojo? All the others were fawning over Kson when she gave them a scrap of attention.

>>38938596
They all hate vshojo but bought into the networking meme so they have to pretend they don't.

>>38938199
god i fucking love tenma

Stop posting PC stuff on the 'log.

it's my first time on this board since 3rd world monkeys love spamming this shit on /sp/ for some reason
aren't vtubers supposed to be virtual? why are you guys getting excited about >3dpd reveal?
seems pretty unhinged tbdesu senpai

>>38938669
Pippa legit likes Nyanners.

>>38938669
>They all hate vshojo
Based

>>38938199
This is the 2nd time this month that she has to tardwrangle the pippaniggers

>>38938774
Tenma's connection with Pippa is a downside...

>>38938755
You know about tourists and newfags? They're like ironic weebs. Or as I call them, ironic vtuber fans. Same thing goes for fake vtubers who reveal their whole body once they got the numbers they desire.

>>38938755
To be fair, this time around it wasn't about the 3dpd itself, but the fact that Pippa made a stupid wager back when 100k subs by the end of the year looked like an impossibility. The hype was around her honouring the bet, not the contents of it.

>>38938199
Want a mirror? Oh wait you already got one nevermind

vshit in shambles

If she breathes she’s a thot

>>38938951
mmm, those slutty meaty thighs
yes, from this exact stream

Why is she so easy to trigger? At this point I would nt be surprised if people just purposely piss her off.

>>38938755
It's not the norm
Yeah sometimes they can do handcam stuff because they are making something like cooking something in particular or DYI and witout a camera it would not work.
But begging for feet pics is disgusting as fuck and any vtuber that actively does shit like for the sake of it especially needs the rope

>>38938199
She should've named dropped that slutty orca shylily.

>>38938199
The feet stream was on youtube though

>>38938199
Holy fucking based

ironic coming from the company full of literal whores and bitches

>>38938199
Where does she mention vtubers? Twitch whores are irl streamers, not vtubers.

nice to see none of those braindead whores have learned to stop burning bridges, can't wait to see this dramabaiting kiwifag company crash and burn

>>38938722
How about you faggots stop shilling your whores everywhere in unrelated general threads first?

>>38938480
But Tenma streams hollow knight and speedruns on twitch

>>38939623
Kekson from vkek said hi

>>38938755
go back newfag tourist

>>38940675
good morning sir, how is bangladesh like today?

>>38938199
Was she always this aggressive? Feels like she's been nothing but pure bitch energy on my feed lately, she never popped on my radar before now

>>38938199
Tenma NEEDS to be my wife.

>>38940924
Jealous over Pippa's success. Many such cases.

Tenma based
Next thing she should do is beat up Vtuber fans who watch whores

>>38940974
Pippafags...it's over

>>38938596
VShojo ruined En Vtuber
Can't watch most Vtubers without sorta watching an Anime with too much fanservice
The pandering is too intense

>>38938199

Damn I knew she didn't like Pippa bit calling her a whore because of a single meme feet stream is a bit much

>>38940974
Yes. But it's part of her bit. It's an 2 way abusive relationship being kanpainiki. She just loves to yell like Pippa

>>38938755
Most of the board shits on vtubers that show off their bodies and act like e-thots. Only fans of Vshojo support it and they're a bunch of reddit simps who accept anything from the whores at that company.

>>38941251
Pippa got away with it by pretending she didn't want to do it.

>>38941251
Noel...

Tenma stop being based challenge (impossible)

>>38938199
Based take.

>>38941251
Mel-chan...

>>38938199
tremendamente basada

Tenma has the sexiest hag hands I've ever seen from a chuuba.

>>38941864
When does it get into your thick head that the difference is that she does not use the company Character or accounts for that - tho that would be really funny and propably get her fired.

>>38942211
ethot is an ethot doesnt matter if they use another account. It just shows what her true nature is.

>>38938199
One of the reasons I still respect Tenma.

>>38938199
tenma who?

>>38938994
Funny how even the lowest vshojo member mogs the biggest phase member
Lmao

>>38940924
I've been following her. Yeah she been kind of cranky last couple months. Not all the time but moreso than usual.

>>38941251
Seethe

>>38942352
Well shes definately an E-Thot, but I respect that she resists combining the two things despite the clout it would get her

>>38938199
she gets the audience she deserves, nothing else, btw she is a fucking hag, her hand stream made it very clear thanks to that awful skin, since when people are in to lemon wtf.

Why does Tenma feel like someone who’s trying way too hard to be liked by here actually I get that feeling from all of Phaseconnect.

>>38940924
sad girl company pls andastand

>>38942899
>she resists combining the two things
That's why she """accidently""" called herself danchou on her roommate, right?

>>38943615
Anon she is answering like that because Pippa showed her feet and the fanbase became crazy over feet pics from the other talents

>>38938760
No she doesn't, she sang POMF and her entire appeal is being the anti-Nyanners.

>>38944509
So it's Pippa's fault again

>>38938199
she ugly, fat or black that's the most rational explenation

>>38938669
>>They all hate Vshojo
>Yet they put out Vshojo-tier content
Curious

>>38945129
the "They all hate Vshojo" is just equivalent of "the voices told me that" no basis but delusions of mentally ill idiot

>>38941251
>Reddit simps
>Vshojo reddit is even more dead than Niji

>>38940062
pretty sure its just because fishman asked the talents to stream on both platforms and she actually tries to do that

>>38938199
I think Tenma's temper may not be cut out for this profession.

>>38940974
ok, lets start with phase then, its pretty much Vwhores with less sex appeal and popularity, with tenma as veibae and pippa as nyanners.

>>38945796
Shitposting with no reason behind it

>>38940924
Tenma is brutally honest, if something pisses her off she'll be explicit about it. When she's not annoyed she's an extremely sweet girl.

>>38945695
In this case I think it's justified because feetfags are a fucking blight, but in general she's incredibly thin-skinned and just can't stop herself from lashing out and making things worse every single time something annoys her

>>38940924
she does go ballistic as a joke from time to time but when there is something that really annoys her she dosent try to be nice, another example was when people with flavr handle was DMing her

>>38938426
Checkmate, simps!

>>38943691
She smashed her keyboard after so she gets a pass for it being a really funny bit

>>38938199
Imagine talking to your audience that way instead of just saying "just please stop."

>>38946616
Welcome to Tenma. Grow a spine or get the fuck out

>>38947611
>grow a spine
Shouldn't you say that to Tenma?

But Tenma is just making me want to fuck and harass her harder with this..
This shitty granny will give in eventually

>>38944945
>>38944509
>>38946069
>>38940924
Tenma just got cold feet after trying to leech of off Pippa's stream:
https://twitter.com/tenmamaemi/status/1602848977359183876

Tenma will murder the rabbit at some point.

>>38938755
I don't know about everyone else but the only thing like that to tantalise me is unintentional reveals, like Rushia when she did camera streams and you could see her shadow or the time you could see her fingernail.

Normalfags and 3dpdfags need to be purged.

>>38938669
>>38944911
No, she doesnt hate Vshojo and Nyanners anymore.
https://youtu.be/anxedVIenK0
From 3:37:17

>>38949744
That was a filter stream

>>38949744
What part of >>38938669 you not getting? Pippa said, in so many words, she understands Nyanner's pivot to mainstream, respects the hustle. Pippa won't comment on Nyanners giving the finger to her original fans, because they aren't allowed to talk shit about The Big Three. Also her guest is a recurring contractor for VShojo. Pippa Isn't actually autistic and isn't going to sperg at her interview guest about how much she hates the characters he wrote the lore for.

>>38941168
Knee gears?

>>38950218
Even before that stream she talked about how she likes Nyanners on her PL account. If she ever said something anti-nyanners, it was probably pandering.

>>38950218
Thats a lot of mental hoops you're jumping, man. First of all, she did adress original Nyanners situation.
Second, she did shit on nijisanji a bit which Merry is alsso working with.
Third, Pippa isnt that type of person to lie when she deeply doesnt believe in it. And you know it.
Pippa just moved on. She doesnt hate Nyanners anymore. She doesnt like her either. And even if you are still convinced that Pippa is just pandering to her Vshojo audience (lol) that still means she is not anti-nyanners anymore.
Move on, dude. Vshojo hate is out of fashion now.

>>38950912
Pippa playfully said she's afraid nijisanji might not like her because she said she prefers hololive. What absolute savagery, totally burned bridges there. Pippa didn't lie, she just ungracefully tiptoes around it saying things like "Did she betray her fans? I don't really know about that". She's apathetic to Nyanners? Totally, why wouldn't she be? And being required to be diplomatic with the big companies is totally different from pandering to the Vshojo audience. For one thing, there's no real crossover with the audience demographic. Another thing, Vshojo doesn't really have a central group culture to pander to, it's just a logistics support branch for formerly independent streamers. Lawyers and capital for new assests. Exactly why Melody joined. Nyanners just wanted the clout of being in a company when she knew she couldn't carry her persona to the other big two.

>>38941078
What did VShojo even do?
Some of them don't even seem to do much fanservice from the looks of it.
At some point it feels like this board just scapegoats VShojo or some other entities whenever an EN vtuber has their own issues.

>>38950912
It's wild to me that this is even a conversation when literally anyone can go see notPippa's Twitter account and search for Nyanners and see exactly how she feels about her (old fan, sees why she she disawoved her old audience, considers her an OG and an important inspiration to all western vtubers)

>>38938917
lmao dont act like you guys arent just horny for her feet

>>38951259
>Nyanners just wanted the clout of being in a company when she knew she couldn't carry her persona to the other big two
Nyanners definitely did not want to join either Hololive or Nijisanji lol why do people think this. She almost didn't even join Vshojo, she had to be persuaded.

>>38951278
They came out too soon after vtubing became popular in the west and corrupted how its perceived.

>>38951381
Feet are shit, especially 3D ones. But seeing Pippa squirm over having to do it? Priceless.

>>38951278
vshojo is just a bogeyman at this point
idk how niggas can be masturbating to hololive vtubers one moment and then in the next moment be complaining about vshojo and “whores”

>>38951259
I dont disagree with you on that. But Pippa is not Nyanners anti like she was a year ago. I do still think Pippa still dislikes Nyanners or holds a small grudge. But she doesnt hate her or Vshojo. Even in her yubi stream she said that Zen may be really a woman. She doesnt know and does not care.

>>38951478
>idk how niggas can be masturbating to hololive vtubers one moment
Probably because they aren't
>and then in the next moment be complaining about vshojo and “whores”
Probably because you could actually pay them for sex

>>38951408
I think that's accurate. Anyone who likes wholesome seiso-ish content can't really say they like v-tubing to other people without having to explain that Vshojo is completely different than how most of the more popular streamers are not twitch whores with an anime puppet. It's a nuanced but important distinction that's not going to translate to ape brain who googles vtuber on youtube.
>>38951524 >Zen may really be a woman
Holy copium. Do you even know what a VRchat mute is?

>>38951576
>Probably because they aren't
dyrbi

>>38951628
?

>>38951306
People just believe what they want to believe about chuubas they like. It's obvious she's never really hated nyanners when you look into it, but some people still interpret things differently anyway because it may not fit their priors.
The big question is why do people here even give a shit? Who cares if she likes or hates nyanners, it's not gonna affect how you enjoy Pippa's content in any way.

>>38951602
Do you know Comdost? Also, thats what Pippa said, not me.

>>38951699
It makes Pippa look like a traitor, and this place HATES traitors.

>>38951408
>>38951602
>Vshojo is completely different
It's extremely funny how people here act like vshojo is all that different from other vtubers when to most people they seem pretty similar. Just insanely weird elitism.

>>38951712
Yeah, but I think that was a joke. Satire even. The only reason you would question Zen being male is if you were trying to be polite. Which is the point. That's how I took it, anyway. I don't really watch art streams unless I want quiet girl mindlessly rambling about her day ASMR while I'm driving. So no. I get why Vtube model artists want to try streaming themselves, but it feels like orbiting. You can't be mean about it because they're important to the biz, but if you can't entertain then why would I put the stream on?

>>38951408
>corrupted how its perceived.
Every time I've seen a normie see Gura they automatically think it's pedo stuff so I don't think HoloEN being the face would give it a better image.

>>38951699
It makes Pippa look like a traitor, and this place is basically like Dante: Treason is the worst of all sins

>>38951677
what don’t you understand nigga
niggas are hypocritical

>>38951918
>being polite in yubi stream
Lol rumao

>>38951968
>liking a chuuba makes you a traitor
lol no wonder chuubas hate this place

>>38951855
That's literally how perception works, it's like a regular person is going to see react content in its most simple form of watching someone watch something rather than seeing it as transformative content.
>>38951961
My experience has been different.

>>38951961
Every Gura fan I know irl is a pedo/lolicon

>>38938199
Stupid whore clearly needs to learn she's essentially a monkey dancing for tips. If the people want to see some skin then fucking show it or graduate. Same goes for all monetised vtubers. Beggars don't choose.

>>38952100
>Most popular Vtuber, 4 million subs
>wdhmbt
>>38951699
Most give a shit because they were fans of Nyanners and Lilypichu is the antithesis of girl on the internet syndrome. Nyanners just voiced lewd memes, and it was fun. To turn around and say, no, the memes are not fun, you hackers known as 4chan are creeps and weirdos for liking this! When this nigger was here, farming attention, literally made her career...nah, whore can get bent. Do some more league of legend shilling.

>>38951576
>Probably because they aren't
lol
lmao

>>38952402
I don't really feel the need in explaining to women or trannies how men work

>>38952383
You kind of glossed over how some of it was loli shit, not really surprising why one would want to distance themselves from that when they get older.
And also the fact that nyanners was stalked and harassed by a bunch of people from here.

>>38951478
>idk how niggas can be masturbating to hololive vtubers one moment and then in the next moment be complaining about vshojo and “whores”
It's only fun to masturbate to them when they act like it's a taboo topic.

>>38952466
NTA but you're incredibly naive

>>38952647
I'm not the one claiming coomers are complaining about whores

>>38952466
The posts on this board are proof enough that anons fap to holo chuubas, no need to explain anything

>>38952762
The post says one moment they're jacking off the next they're complaining.
There would need to be a lot of explaining.

>>38951478
List of crimes that VShojo has done
>Got Rushia fired
>Got Vesper suspended
>Caused Yugo's graduation
>Made Vox have a menhera breakdown every week
>Made Gura not stream
>Mori

>>38952569
>Some of it was loli shit
Nigger what? That's all it ever was, and that's all it is now. It's been her entire career.
>Stalked and harassed
Every single person with clout on the internet is doxed, will be doxed. Wanting the attention without the attention is not how celebrity works, or will ever work. That's not the same as being stalked. And someone emailing your roomate saying your a stupid cunt may be harassment, but how can you possibly give a shit if you're farming clicks by the thousands? Every member of the big companies experiences this. If that's too scary, quit being an anime girl on the internet.

>>38952878
she literally did get stalked though it wasn't just dox

>>38952825
>The post says one moment they're jacking off the next they're complaining.
What more needs to be explained? That statement makes perfect sense.
It’s just calling them hypocrites.

>>38952878
Do retards here honestly think the only thing that happened to her was just some hate emails?

>>38953011
>them
there is no them, its clearly two separate groups. Groups which consist of individuals.
The group that is cooming isn't complaining about whores.
The group that is complaining about whores isn't cooming.

>>38952878
what happened to nyanners was worse than what could merely be chalked up to just “standard internet shit” that every somewhat well known internet personality deals with

>>38953086
And then obviously all the people inbetween that are neither complaining about whores or talking about jacking off to them and therefore are irrelevant.

>>38953086
>its clearly two separate groups.
Proof?

>>38953185
I've said the answer. I don't care if you accept it.

>>38953226
You didn’t say the answer, you just asserted something that is not true

>>38953286
The whole purpose of this discussion was to explain what my post quite clearly meant.
I don't know or care what you think this is about.

>>38945220
Welcome to /vt/

>>38953318
>The whole purpose of this discussion was to explain what my post quite clearly meant
> I don't know or care what you think this is about
lol. It’s obviously more than just that. you’re wrong btw
I think you care more about this whole thing than you let on

>>38938199
Pippa, not to mention she is fat and her feet look like hamsters. She might be passable if she loses weight

>>38953422
No it's been explained and I am correct, the only thing that needs to be reiterated is the post itself.
>>38951576

>>38953286
You mean like how the original post asserted that the Holo coomers and Vshojo complainers are the same group as truth with no proof?

>>38938199
Why couldnt Mi-chan have been the popular one instead of that whore pippa

>>38953475
That post doesn’t even say anything refuting the claim, just says “no they aren’t”
Anyway, this post is right and you’re wrong: >>38951478

>>38953694
seethe

>>38953694
>>38953185
>Proof?

>>38953516
hololive watchers do complain about vshojo all the time tho
those niggas will defend anything hololive does, even if it trudges into what they might deem “vshojo” or “niji” territory, while also performatively and loudly denouncing anything and everything that is vshojo or vshojo-adjacent as “wrong” and “bad”
that’s what i was getting at with my post

>>38952873
Vesper did this

>>38953916
Holo watchers =/= Holo coomers
Don't generalise if you don't want to be called out

>>38953732
>have zero critical thinking ability
>enter thread
>post an incredibly shit take
>multiple people call me a retard
>declare I'm correct because I say so
>get told to back up my point
>brain literally incapable of critical thinking or internal monologue, primal emotions bounce around in my head until my subconscious mind and subhuman undeveloped center of logic finally come together to dictate my next move
>reply with "seethe" and close the thread

>>38954140
>Is actually crying
It's not a big deal, just be correct in the future.

>>38953960
> Holo watchers =/= Holo coomers
let’s quit bullshitting ourselves, they’re the fucking same. you think they just watch for the boring ass gameplay and nothing else?
also i’m being provocative to get you thinking and to get my point across. i’m basing what i’m saying off this board and my own observations of it, so there is truth behind it. it’s not like i’m coming completely out of left field with what i’m suggesting
also fuck you nigga, i’ll do what i want

>>38954260
>let’s quit bullshitting ourselves, they’re the fucking same. you think they just watch for the boring ass gameplay and nothing else?
What is a coomer to you? Because a regular man cums and then the rest of the time he isn't thinking about cumming again.

>>38954453
>a regular man cums and then the rest of the time he isn't thinking about cumming again
yes of course, this is obvious stuff. i don’t even know why you’re saying it. the vast, vast majority of men are regular men. idk why you’re so hung up on the word “coomer” (a term i never even used before in any of my posts until now, btw)
“the coomer” is a meme. it’s a caricature. it’s not a real enough thing to even have a coherent definition, so your point about coomers or whatever-the-fuck is moot and i don’t even know why you used the term in the first place

>>38954800
You said they were the same, now you're saying it's not real enough to have a definition.
Just give it up, you're always going to be wrong here.

>>38954884
>You said they were the same, now you're saying it's not real enough to have a definition.
again, i’m being provocative to make my point. but you are actually blind to the point that i’m making because you’re too hung up on the term “coomer” and whether it’s real or has some agreed upon definition, as if that is at all relevant or what the discussion is actually about

>>38955180
Diddums, you were wrong

>>38955213
you obviously have some mental hang ups about this term “coomer”, so the discussion is not ever going to advance past this point because you’re too focused on that word and what it means to you. it must impact your life pretty heavily. hope you make it out all right

>>38955339
You're not changing the conversation. You were wrong. That's all there is to it.

>>38955375
I think you lost, anon.

>>38955499
And then you woke up

>>38955375
my nigga, you’re not even adding anything to the conversation except “wrong! wrong! you’re wrong!”

>>38955562
That's because it's already over? He BTFO'd himself right here >>38954260
The topic is never continuing, he will just be mocked every time he posts.

>>38955612
>He BTFO'd himself right here
How?
He argued his point well enough, and from that point on you didn’t have much else to say after that except for nitpicking about what coomer means.

>>38955792
Sure you did

>>38949744
Pippa was intentionally trying to purge viewers so she didn't have to post feet

>>38955612
>The topic is never continuing, he will just be mocked every time he posts.
lol retarded dumb ass
you don’t have any other points because you know i’m right

>>38955857
Pippa never hated those vshojo girls though, she adopted /vt/ opinions at first but is starting to make her own views and opinions known and wants to continue growing and expanding outward and not be held back forever

>>38956198
>Pippa never hated those vshojo girls though
That's like saying kanye never hated george w. bush
It doesn't matter how you evolve

>>38938199
HOLY BASED I FUCKING LOVE TENMA

>>38951278
They made some people so retarded that they think people hate vtubers being lewd in any way, including lewd fanworks, while being completely incapable of understanding why someone wouldn't want to see a vtuber talking about how she got railed in Canada.

Why is vshojo being brought up here when this is about pippa showing feet and phasefags bothering other talents about doing it too

>>38956749
Phase talents and even fishman himself have personally stated that they are the answer to vtuber fans who are tired of vshojo

>>38955912
Diddums weesacs

>>38938199
tenma's so based

>>38951278
Streaming has two communities, Youtube and Twitch.
In civilized countries, most chuubas stream on Youtube.
In Burgerland they use twitch.
Twitch audience only has VShojo as reference for "VTubers" because they never leave the twitch ecosystem - hence the VTubers having to do collabs and shit with irl folks since their audience does not know anyone outside of twitch.
Same with Youtube, but Youtube audience also has a percentage of people who are either ex-twitch users or at least aware of the fact that twitch exists since Youtube was not a streaming platform until recently.
And so there is a schism in how these two big and separate communities view "VTubing". Youtube folks hate twitchfags because their only reference is VShojo.
Twitchfags who DON'T watch VShojo have no idea that there are chuubas that don't stream on twitch.
Hence the dissonance.

>>38957168
niggums my nigga

>>38951278
There's a lot of hate for vshojo for many different reasons
1. Their talents go on menhera tirades on twitter frequently
2. They cancel their own friends and collab partners for twitter clout
3. They specifically go out of their way to bait trolls and people to hate them
4. Vshojo has no management to reign yabs in
5. The talents frequently criticize both specific fanbases and the broad vtuber fandom
6. Vshojo became a group of popular nepotism hires after advertising that they wanted to uplift the indie community
7. Vshojo is poaching talents of their competitors and shit talking the other companies
8. The talents frequently sabotage their own channels and then have pity party breakdowns about it where they bait for gifted subs from bigger streamers
9. the mountain of past life drama that most of the girls have is a meme at this point
10. Vshojo are the only streamers being recognized for vtuber streamer awards

>>38946616
Imagine talking to your audience. #1 streamer mistake

>>38946616
It's part of the Tenma/phase connect experience

>>38940924
Authentic Japanese wife experience.

>>38940924
Tenma and Lumi have been seething over pippa's success

>>38938199
Funny how she was on board with it until the last minute. She took one look at her hag feet and noped the fuck out.

>>38938199
this is rich from someone who posts her manicures on Twitter.

>>38938199
>>38938951
pot calling the kettle black

>>38941251
>>38941864
There is a large difference between the base potty-humored personalityless e-thot and the genuine passion-fueled camwhore who camwhores because it gets her wet and is charismatic enough to succeed financially even without having to resort to that. Sex pandering itself isn't the issue with VShitters so much as their substitution of actually clever and entertaining content with it since they have nothing further to offer

>>38938596
Tenma is a Japanese ESL. Kson only has that effect on EOP chuubas. She's like a god figure to them.

>>38961984
So basically you’re saying there are whores you like and whores you don’t like

>>38963543
What he is saying is:
>Honest whores like Melody, good
>Lying whores like the rest of vshojo, bad

>>38938199
>go watch a twitch whore
https://www.twitch.tv/tenma

>>38963543
I'm saying I like charismatic entertainers, and that being cumbrained doesn't necessarily preclude a chuuba from being one. VShojo has given sex as a stream topic a bad rap because they're by and large talentless shitters with fourth-grader humor that can only make it by pandering to the lowest common denominator (their ilk). They have nothing to define them beyond that. Take it away and they're empty.

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Good morning, Sirs. Tenma is still looking for antis to interview. This includes Antis who hate her personally, antis who hate Phase Connect and antis who hate vtubers. Vshitshow cucks please apply in her marros. Arigato

>>38964571
kys

>>38938426
>Pan Piano
YES.

She's not a vtuber though. The other piano player Ru has a model though.

>>38938596
Phase streamers know they can't collab with vshitshow because a lot of their fans absolutely hate the company and it'd probably ruin them.

There are plenty of others around who are safe to do stuff with. Hell, Pippa is talking to Mori a lot lately, it's entirely possible they do something soon.

>>38941251
>Only fans of Vshojo support it
What? It's some of NijiEN's most popular content.

>>38954800
>a term i never even used before in any of my posts until now, btw
However you post
>it’s not a real enough thing to even have a coherent definition
followed by
>you’re too hung up on the term “coomer” and whether it’s real or has some agreed upon definition
You're the one that brought up coomer having a definition or not.
Also, you may not have mentioned coomer explicitly, but implicitly you did. And I quote:
>>38951478
>idk how niggas can be masturbating to hololive vtubers one moment then in the next moment be complaining about vshojo and “whores”
How else are people supposed to interpret this? Assuming you are referring to people who are both Hololive fans and fap to Hololive talents' porn, calling them Hololive coomers seems appropriate, at least as a shorthand.
Nevertheless, you are retarded, so see pic related for the situational breakdown (made in Paint #sponsored), then go have your own mental breakdown somewhere in a corner.

>>38964812
>yo pips whatup my ni-uh-dawg
>me and ame are doing a collab soon you wanna join in?
>yeah cool, also a few tempus members will be there hope that's aight

I desperately want Tenma to beat the shit out of me.

>>38965382
>You're the one that brought up coomer having a definition or not.
you said here >>38954453
>What is a coomer to you?
asking me for my definition, but since it's obviously primarily a meme with no actual definition, what the fuck did it even matter? yet it seemed of utmost importance to you, your whole argument hinging on it. then here >>38954884
>You said they were the same, now you're saying it's not real enough to have a definition.
the definition was obviously important to you for some reason

anyway, even your diagram shows an overlap between so-called "hololive coomers" and "vshojo complainers." even if such people are merely a vocal minority, my point still stands and you didn't actually refute anything i've said, but rather proved what i said to be true. cry

>>38938596
Tenma has collabed with sykkuno

>>38966402
>you said here
Not me>>38966402
>then here >>38954884
Also not me. There have been at least 2 anons arguing with you, I'm but only one of them. I was away for a while and just rejoined the conversation.
>anyway, even your diagram shows an overlap between so-called "hololive coomers" and "vshojo complainers." even if such people are merely a vocal minority, my point still stands
So far as *some* Hololive fans *who also* fap to Hololive chuubas complain about VShojo. However, as I said here
>>38953960
>Don't generalise if you don't want to be called out
This was in response to (You), I believe, saying this
>>38953916
>hololive watchers do complain about vshojo all the time tho
Where you assert that it is Hololive *watchers* that complain about VShojo. Again, to an extent it is true, my only argument against your initial post was that it was too general. If I said VShojo watchers complain about Hololive chuubas being too sanitized, I'd expect VShojo watchers to correct me saying "not all VSojo watchers", as there are some viewers than don't care/know enough about Hololive to share that sentiment.
Then again, if
>>38954260
>> Holo watchers =/= Holo coomers
>let’s quit bullshitting ourselves, they’re the fucking same
is (You), which I would expect you're not, your argument falls apart as you ascertain the two groups are one and the same, meaning that "people who fap to Holos"="all people that watch Hololive", making your initial statement mean that "Everybody who watches Hololive calls VShojo talents whores" which is simply not true.

>>38938199
All of Vshojo is on Twitch.
Too many indies to name, but as an example, Cy Yu/PorcelainMaid/Monarch and their group are all Twitch, though some of them also upload to Youtube as well.

>>38966868
my position is basically that "hololive fans/watchers" and "hololive coomers" are not discernibly different enough to need the distinct labels (we all have eyes. we can all read this board, check the fanart tags, etc. fans are constantly horny, "coomer", "simping". etc. etc... whatever fucking stupid buzzword you want to call it, we get it. let's not get hung up on definitions, moving on), and also that the constant defending of everything about hololive while also decrying and complaining about "vshojo", "whores", and "degeneracy" is simply hypocritical.
my point was never suggesting that all hololive fans are "vshojo complainers", as that chart shows with the yellow lines. it was just about the hypocrisy in defending hololive no matter what, while villainizing vshojo no matter what.
>inb4 but just don't generalize
yes, i was purposefully provocative to get my point across by making sweeping statements. sorry, this is 4chan. it's not just me, everyone does it. what, do you want me to caveat every little statement i make from now? waste of time, not gonna happen.

Wow this thread was very productive.

>>38967313
>"hololive fans/watchers" and "hololive coomers" are not discernibly different enough to need the distinct labels (we all have eyes. we can all read this board, check the fanart tags, etc. fans are constantly horny, "coomer", "simping". etc
So you are claiming that all Hololive viewers also masturbate to Hololive chuubas and also complain about VShojo? This is what you wrote means. You don't get to claim
>my point was never suggesting that all hololive fans are "vshojo complainers"
right afterwards. Words have meanings, we may disregard the word "coomer" as being too abstract, but "hololive watcher" means something very specific and you are misappropriating it.
Yes, there are people that are indeed acting hypocritically in the way you've described, but it would be wise to keep in mind that neither 4chan not twitter are accurate representations of what the average Hololive, or any vtuber for that matter, fan is like. Making scathing all-encompassing arguments is very 4chan-esque, but keep in mind casting a net too wide only makes your argument prone to losing any substance and getting torn apart.
>waste of time, not gonna happen
Not as much of a timewaster as this argument was, seeing as you've probably learned nothing. Have a nice night, I'm off to watch some animu waifus

>>38968094
>there are people that are indeed acting hypocritically in the way you've described

I love it when Tenma is legitimately pissed and holds no punches.

>>38938199
So what she's saying is, she thinks Pippa is a "twitch whore"? What a scoop!

>>38938199
Tenmas become a real uptight bitch lately, she seemed really nice before wtf happened?

>>38964734
Bonus fact: Ru writes most of her own arrangements and publishes them on websites where you can buy sheet music. Pan usually plays arrangements made by others. Still a top quality player, cosplayer, and coombaiter tho.

>>38973040
Too much South Park it has corrupted her.

>>38950218
>Pippa isn't actually autistic
That's why Lia is the cultured choice.

>>38938426
Lacks Critical Information

>>38973381
Yep, one is faking and the other is real which is why Lia was suspended and had a talking too. Lia was to autistic to understand where the line was, but Pippa understands how to skirt it.

>>38973706
I'll be honest I wouldn't be able to handle a Lia in real life. But on a screen she's the sexiest ideal of a woman in the history of sexual reproduction.

>>38965382
What is this debate about categories of fans?
I used to watch Mousey before Vshojo was a thing, then i watched Hololive for a couple years, now I mainly watch PC plus some random Nijis. I never had erotic thoughts about vtubers, with one significant exception (Lia)
Where do I fall in your debate?
Anyway she's online now, see you later.

>>38938199
i kneel mii-chad