/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Veibae isn't new. If she hasn't killed anyone yet, she isn't going to.

>>3892677
You realize Kiara's invited her to a collaboration right?

>>3892711
You do realize a single collab isn't going to kill an entire group right?

>>3892677
Except she has an unfounded hatred for Hololive, so someone with her personality would definitely try stuff if given the opportunity

>>3892711
good

>>3891655
She's kind of a whore and I don't really like her. But I'll admit her model is really good, she has a voice that stands out, and she's surprisingly good at video games.

>>3892737
>any criticism of Corporate Overlord = hatred that must be punished

just listen to yourself corpofag

>>3892737
>Except she has an unfounded hatred for Hololive
>things only exist in a constant state of extremes
So far out of context. Not wanting to be under a label because of fear of loss of control and ownership of your own character and content =/= hating something.

boring react streamer

>>3892746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7cRwGNs2iY

>>3893005
Don't try to hide the things she said. The problem wasn't about the ownership of the model which we all know it belongs to Cover but about the other things she said that are unfounded and misinformed

>>3891655
Is she the one who trash talked about Hololive? I wonder what Kiara thinks of that?

>>3892770
It wasn't criticism, she was wrong about the things she said and never apologized about it

>>3891655
Based for making Holofags seethe
Based for still being friends with Kiara despite Kiara knowing what she said.

>>3893147
She wasn’t wrong, and she doesn’t need to apologize. If Kiara doesn’t give a shit why do you corporate bootlicker?

>>3893201
because I don't want her near hololive

>>3893067
She even outright lied by saying that she heard a lot of bad things from a former hololive idol, and this was before the TW thing, so the only possibilities were Chris (who disappeared off the face of the earth when she got fired) or Aloe (who has only good things to say about Cover/Hololive).

>>3893059
I don't hear anything I didn't read a billion times on jp, she doesn't seem well informed which isn't a crime, and if she comes and plays nice and gets a different impression after talking to active Hololive talents that aren't chinks, that's good for Hololive more than it's good for her

>>3893209
Well too bad you can’t gate keep Kiara from having friends. Just sit back and pout like a child you won’t change a thing ha

>>3893079
Wasn't her hatred of Hololive mainly because she was seething about not being accepted? I'm guessing with her and Kiara being friends already, Kiara being an empfag and having a list of mental problems due to her own history with bad luck probably could see herself in Veibae's shoes, thus her wanting to collab with her.

>>3891655
Kiara already knows what she said and looked over it, why do Holofags care if she doesn’t? At the end of the day she’s still going to collab with her

>>3893237
I wouldn't give a retard from /jp/ a chance either. How would Veibae's endorsement help Hololive?

>>3893059
Stop posting this garbage Festival already debunked that shit
https://youtu.be/9_Mh7xVKlyw
Vei is stupid and she doesn't even look as good as she used to since she downgrader her avatar

>>3891655
>Rampantly talks shit about Hololive unapologetically
>Basically calls the talent dumb for doing roleplay
>SOMEHOW Kiara not only forgives all of this, but convinces J/ENMa to let her collab with Vshojo
I don't know who is worse, Vei for walking into a collab with the people she originally claimed to pity, or Kiara for getting mud flung at her face with a smile and letting Vei in

P.S. she is booking it straight to gura for a collab and leaving Kiara in the dust

>>3893174
>>3891655
>>3893059
someone should post this on twitter and @ everyone like that idiot who canceled taiga

>>3892735
You don't understand. This is going to kill EN just like TT did. It's over.

why the fuck do people keep calling it a vshojo collab before anything is confirmed? DoKomi is coming right up and it's a very autistic germoney event Kiara is attending because she speaks germoney and all these indie talents are attending because they're desperate, there's zero indication things will go beyond that

>>3893248
provide proof or stop making shit up

>>3893332
Someone already shared the video too Kiara and she saw it already but said nothing even liked a tweet under the video that was talking about collabs. Kiara doesn’t care

>>3893367
Kiara has stated she will be playing video games with two Vshojo talents and that this is separate from dokomi. She is doing this on her own initiative.

>>3893367
Kiara already said she’s gonna be collabing with VShojo you idiot, one of them being Vei because they’re already friends

>>3893201
She needs to at least admit she was wrong but she tried to hide it. And yes, she was wrong about things because she was misinformed

>>3893296
>spoiler

No doubt, I think everybody in Vshojo will gun it to Gura. She has massive numbers on top of being rather starved of collabs barring Ame and sometimes Mori so she is a prime target for any western vtuber with ambition. The interesting part is if Gura will allow herself to collab for fear of any potential yab could crush her collab partner due to the tsunami of literal children that is her fanbase.

>>3893451
No she really wasn’t

>>3893452
Everyone and their mother wants to collab with Gura (like that Carson creep), she's ignored them all

Don't worry, she wouldn't kill anyone without having sex with them first. You can go ahead and forget about TakaMori. She's simply a better woman.

>>3893451
admitting they're wrong and apologizing is the most retarded thing someone can do in the west. deny deny deny.

>>3893459
Stop trying to be contrarían

Since this collab is already a for sure thing, what channel do we hope it will be on?

>voicing ones subjective opinion is now wrong
Sasuga

>>3893522
Stop being a corporate bootlicker

>>3891655
how old model was better

>>3893511
Why would you admit you're wrong when no one knows about it?

Just hide the evidence and act as if this doesn't exist, being the first to apologize just mean you lose

>>3893541
K

>>3893567
What are you trying to say, friend?

>>3893451
Are Holocucks always this retarded?

>>3893596
That I don't like Veibei's new model

>>3893534
Spreading misinformation is. Who's forced to roleplaying? Who is this idol that left Hololive she's talking about ?

People still defend Cover in 2021?

>>3893534
Opinions stop being opinions when you assure them. Example: holos have no input in their designs, while >>3893292 exists.

She’s going to cuck Mori and keep Kiara all too herself TakaMori is a dead ship now

>>3893509
only person who she has sex with is her boyfriend, veikek

>>3893534
>>voicing ones subjective opinion, which is founded and fueled solely by exaggerated claims, one-off scenarios that require far more context, and the most minor and minimal of research is now wrong

It would be like us saying "Veibae is a desperate whore and wants to quit Vshojo ASAP" because 1) She talks about sex, 2) She had a joke-dispute with Nyanners, and 3) Allegedly applied to Hololive

>>3893606
To each their own.
I think they're both good.

>>3893642
you are learning the ways of the rrat, my child

I really don't give a shit about Vei or Kiara. But Mousey and Mori? I'm down.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1027391091?t=0h31m18s

>>3893585
Not sure how serious you are but unironically this. Apologizing won't make anyone forgive you, it just makes it clear you did in fact do what people are mad at you for.

>>3893628
Good, Takamori was far better when it was 2 girls being friends with occasional light yuri. Kiara pushed that boulder all the way off the ledge and she's just now realizing what it was in the beginning

>>3893509
>>3893597
>>3893628
koikatsu model when?

>>3893621
Cover is a perfect company that treats their girls perfectly fine, don’t bring up the fact they suspend Mel because her manager stalked and assaulted her. It’s her fault!

>>3893534
no, the major sticking point is where she says she got her info from retired hololive talents. Objective lie, and wrong.

>>3893664
Why would Mouse even think of collabing with Mori after that tomfoolery with a drawfags offensive illustration?

I wonder how much they shit-talk the autistic shark off-stream because she's the most popular and refuses to acknowledge their existence to this day

>>3893674
Yeah agreed, Kiara with overboard with the yuri baiting it was so bad. Literally one of these worst forced ships out there. I guess she was trying to be the EN version of Okayu/Korone

>>3893664
>Mori jokes about reaping her
>Mousey gets PTSD from that one fanart
Gold/10, please let it be

>>3893332
sorry but only people here would actually be upset by that clip

>>3893332
Nobody cares on twitter, people defend Vei and said stop gate keeping Kiara from having friends

>>3893541
Grow the fuck up

>>3893691
"Suspended". She took a break because Cover didn't paid for a lawyer to help her with the stalker problem. It doesn't make it better but you're spreading lies.

>>3893786
Seethe bootlicker

Isn't this the same chick who got her info from, "past hololive talents". Why would anyone take what she says as fact at that point. We all know who the only people she could have talked to. That being Artia and Civia, and both of them harassed their coworker and tried strong-arming their company. Can't believe an actual Vtuber believed a rrat. Hopefully, Kiara can expel those narratives and set the record straight. I'm sure the collab will go well though. Management has a good leash on things.

>>3893755
Welcome to the mountain top
did your life supporting stop?

>>3893372
I'm not that guy and It relaled to roommate's stuff so I won't post here. in the past Kiara join a contest, outperformed others girls but came out as lower place due to others bribed the judges(with sex or money) then she rage quitted

>>3893827
reminds me of that other deathbed mouse comic

>>3893621
No, but it's one thing to call out Cover Corp when they shit themselves and another to spread misinformation as Veibae did

>>3893713
>trashy fanart that some retard on /vt/ made should influence how people completely uninvolved with it interact with each other in their actual lives

>>3893734
Gura’s not thing about them at all.

>>3893734
I would say a lot, it's a girl's thing after all.

>>3893534
Those were not opinions. It was literally gossip talk complete with facts, half-truths, misrepresentation and outright lies. I watched the video in which it happened and she pretty much slandered Cover for all the wrong reasons.

>>3891655
Gonna make a crazy prediction here: Vshojo collabs happen, nothing changes. Almost as if it's all ultimately inconsequential and you retards are sperging out again over a "final yab" because you're addicted to it and just can't help it.

The plot twist is Kiara is gonna ditch Hololive and join VShojo

>>3893870
I wonder why did she do that. Discourage girls to join vtuber companies?

>>3893811
Cope harder bitch. You cant do shit and even if you could you wouldnt.

>>3893452
>Gura
>collabing outside Hololive

>>3893755
Since Mori lives in hell and Mousey is supposedly satan I could picture Mori being like: ''Hey, listen satan, i know I haven't been doing my monthly reaping for a while... BUT I have a reason, I was collecting this soul from a guy called Yagoo and...

>>3893949
You can’t do shit either faggot, you can’t even stop a collab from happening Seethe bootlicker.

Vei is gonna fuck Kiara with a strap on and there’s nothing you’re autistic ass can do ha

>>3893452
>>3893488
Gura barely collab'd with Anya, and i guess arguably one of the lowest yielding inhouse talents with largest yielding kinda confirmed the rrat shit Gura must have heard about being used as a numbers-pad

Shame too, because Anya is the only girl outside of EN that treated Gura like a partner instead of a free bully target a la Among Us streams

>>3893947
other people have claimed similar things senselessly on twitter, and women and effeminate men gossip habitually, very small leap to repeat one of those rumors aloud and try to "back it up" with your "in the know" (vaguely remembered detail)
not everything has to be a life-or-death grudgematch

>>3893452
>>3893488
She’s in fear of her own power/fan. One misinterpreted comment will set frenzy chumbuds on her collabs like feeding meat to sharks.

>>3893488
Ngl, i ship her with Sykunno fag.

At least if they are dating, he's doing a great job at not destroying her career since he's as secretive as Gura to his viewers

>veibae fans having a plastic looking literal irl thot as their oshi
Big fucking cope, literally might as well simp for actual twitch whores while you're at it

>>3893534
>opinions
>clearly says that shit because she has a source from an idol who left hololive
Who is this source? Sounds like she's making shit up. What's worse is she's trying to scrub that clip from the internet

>Holofags have literal Blacked whores as their Oshi
I can’t even imagine

>>3893984
>That pic
Please Kiara, snap out of it. she is a duplicitous bitch and is using you to get in the Hololive door. She's literally fem-connor

>>3893734
A lot. You know how these western whores are. They feel entitled

>>3893947
To encourage her viewers to hate Holo and support indies

Which is like what? What other Indies have done during the 2019-2020 boom? Almost every indie has badmouthed Hololive in some form or another, mostly because they keep getting the viewers.

If Veibae grew out of that phase, then it's fine. If you guys really hate it, you can just not watch. Doesn't matter to me or everyone else in the board in the slightest since almost everyone here doesn't even watch Kiara in the first place.

>>3893934
>I watched the video in which it happened
Massive doubt.

>>3894051
Kiara is a desperate numbers-fag she'll risk anything to get more networking so she can get more subs and not be the disappointment of her gen

oh shit I forgot I was on blue /r9k/

>>3894015
I heard she's cucking Internet Historian's wife

>>3894015
>secretive
Doesn't matter when one of his circle accidentally blabs it all out. All hell will break loose then

>>3894078
This isn't a new video you colossal faggot. If you have been watching chuubas for more than three minutes you'd know this.

>>3894024
if she didn't go ham with the lip injections, she'd be kinda qt
Reminds me a lot of the Latina girls you'd use around here for quick one-offs

>>3894121
I heard she's cucking Internet Historian and his wife is Watson

>>3894024
What's up with that lips? Do women find this attractive? What makes them want to go for this kind of look?

>>3894024
Dios mío... el bakemono de occidente

>>3894024
She's prettier than Kiara and Ame though.

>>3893237
>Comparing the opinion of Anon E Mous on /vt/ to the opinion of an established vtuber with a platform of simps that will eat out of her hand.
>Uses that platform to overtly lie about subjects that 10 minutes in google will tell you are lies.
>Citing a "source" that either doesn't exist or would've, at the time, been dubiously credible at absolute best.
Vei cited "an idol that left Hololive" that she spoke with directly as the source of her claims. As a refresher for newfags, the total sum of all talents that have "left" Hololive are:
>An actual criminal who never actually made it to being an idol.
>A male that quit over creative differences and left on amicable terms.
>A girl that got doxxed, spooked, and willfully graduated, and now either says nothing or only says positive things about her time with Cover.
>A male that left the company by mutual decision on amicable terms, and still is in frequent contact with his old genmates.
>A male that left due to health issues.
>2 ex-CNs that are on record as lying manipulative women and would've been outed at the time that Vei could've spoken to them.
>An ex-CN actively trying to flee China, that couldn't even be spoken to
>The remaining ex-CNs, who all dropped off the face of the earth.
There isn't a single valid source where Vei could've gotten this information that would've given such a bleak perspective of Hololive.

>>3894024
Wow she looks better than Watson I’ll give her that

Imagine doing an apology stream: it's like superchat reading, but instead you just apologize for everything that you did in your entire career for 5 hours. That's the kind of content /vt is expecting to be made.

>>3894267
Artia is the most probable one because she speaks English and streams on Twitch

>>3894338
I do not want an apology video, I want her to stay in her box

>>3894143
>I watched the video in which it happened
Implies that you watched the VOD that the clip all these people are sperging out to came from. All you watched was the clip. You're acting like some authority on the subject when you know exactly the same shit everybody else does.

>>3894267
your definition of "valid" is both based on qualified knowledge and time of the post, she said those things at the exact time Artia would have been searching desperately for some group to affiliate with and hawking the idea she was an innocent snowflake who dindu nuffin, which is most likely why Vaibae is trying to remove any evidence she had private contact with her under any context

>>3894364
Not possible, it was before HoloCN graduation. That makes it worse tho

>>3894125
That's why he left OTV house, can't have Gura be seen by Lily or whoever streamer that barge in their rooms (rrat)

>>3894338
I don't want an apology video. I want her to stop trying to censor people that bring up the dumb thing she said.
When people make mistakes they have to live with them.

>>3894266
ehh, maybe on some levels. Kiara is very pretty naturally, but i guess like Vei she got convinced to fuck with her face. Ame is the gamer girl everyone wants, so it amps her up, and her attitude and comedy takes her to Goddess levels

>>3894267
>There isn't a single valid source
The above sources you defined are invalid why?

>>3894405
No that’s what you want you faggot, man thankfully no one agrees with your takes and you’re a vocal minority. Thank god you faggots stay here

>>3894267
The video was originally from a time before the TW incident but after Aloe graduated, so that narrows down the possibilities a good deal.

>>3894396
So that just means she just made it all up. There is no good excuse for this. She can't say that she's misinformed if her source doesn't exist. No wonder she tried to scrub this from the internet

>>3894412
Ame looks fucking ugly as shit tho, I dropped her when I saw her pics. Like she is seriously ugly

>>3894267
>>3894431
Get her detectives !

>>3891655
I love this lil shit so much. She’s making Holofags seethe and there’s nothing they can do about it. Best girl

>>3894338
All she needs to do is film a naked dogeza and cut off all her hair

>>3894121
>>3894015
>Aussie and Cali boy
Though fun to imagine, neither are close enough for the shark, unless they're willing to traverse

>>3894412
>Ame is the gamer girl everyone wants, so it amps her up, and her attitude and comedy takes her to Goddess levels
We're talking about their looks, not their personality.

>>3894379
On this note, if some autist has the full vod archived, now would be the time to link it.

>126 replies
>47 IPs
Discord trannies are at full capacity it seems

So long as she stay within her irrelevance bubble, nothing will happen. If she try to reach out to hololive, expect this to be spread, just like connor.

>>3893452
>No doubt, I think everybody in Vshojo will gun it to Gura.
I hate that I share a fanbase with you people sometimes. This same fucking timeloop happened when retards thought all of JP would pester Gura for collabs to leech off of her.
Yes there are leeches out there but not everyone is a fucking leech you retard. Mousey is pretty close to Mori so it makes no sense that she would gun it to Gura.

>>3894516
they are whores

>>3894524
ogey

>>3894266
>>3894412
>kiara
>pretty
Kiara's roommate is ugly as shit. Her eyes look like they're about to pop out of their sockets and her fucked up, yellow teeth are the most disgusting shit ever. She doesn't even have a well shaped body. Can't understand why some anons claim she's the prettiest of the group. You niggers need to go out and look at real women to establish your standards of beauty and not form your opinions from e-celebs, thots and roommates.

>>3894564
rrat

>>3894524
Everyone's a whore anon.
Vshojo's just more honest about it.
Which makes anyone else who pretends to act decent even worse in comparison.

All you fags are being disingenuous as fuck. I can't remember a time I've seen anyone here say anything nice about Cover but suddenly the defense force is in full effect the past couple days when this cropped up. Does anyone remember the clip where Kiara initially talked about her collab with Vei getting denied and how upset she sounded in that? The talents themselves hate a lot of shit about Cover and suddenly it's inconceivable that anyone at all out there might have had something negative to say about the company.

>>3894379
I didn't watch the whole VOD when people were originally gossiping about this, The way she speaks is... it reminds me of "valley girls". I did a "what's this gossip crap" and closed the video because I didn't care about what some minor persona says on stream (I wasn't aware of the whole source part until recently). The clips have enough info to say someone is legit badmouthing a company and is lucky that she deleted her VOD because that is enough to get Cover to say "yab" and get you added to the blacklist.

I still don't care in particular about the issue beyond thinking that she's a hypocrite that basically second hand slandered a company and yet somehow leeches off of said company's success.

>>3894603
Twitch VODs are automatically deleted after 60 days. The clip is easily 8 months old at minimum. Please try again.

>>3894431
If it was before the Taiwan Yab but after Aloe Graduation, then the only person that could've given that info that fits the description would've been Kaoru. While there were rrats at the time about him leaving in a more heated fashion, hindsight has shown us that it was pretty mutual and he's still friendly with his genmates, so I personally doubt he would've spoken ill of Cover to that degree.
Another thing to consider is that Veibae doesn't know Japanese. At all, really. So whoever she talked with was either through a translator (which creates its own set of problems) or knew English.

It seems more likely that Vei just made it all up based on rrats she read on the internet.

>>3894588
So who was the 'retired hololive idol' she 'got her info' from?

>>3894645
me

>>3894024
This...this has to be touched up with photoshop to the max...right?

>>3894588
? Who are you talking to? Take your meds

>>3894645
Judas of Hololive

>>3894664
Risu, you're not retired.

>>3894405
Why do you fucks continue to make it sound like you're innocent little angels being stifled by "the man"? I guarantee you that even if one of you brought up the conversation in her chat or elsewhere in a "polite" manner, there are sixty other faggots who haven't, so you all look the same, because you are all the same. You're not that interested in discussing anything with her, you just want to shit the place up.

>>3894645
I don't know why everyone is discounting Aloe just because she has nice things to say about Cover. Vei could have misworded her argument since the gist of it was talking about the way that an idol was treated. She may have been confused or gotten something else incorrect but Aloe certainly was not treated well by some people and idol culture plays a big part in that. Hearing about what happened to her secondhand could have easily lead to the misconception that it's the company's fault. Especially because the only info to go on at that time was translated Japanese stuff since EN hadn't even debuted yet.

>>3894716
>I don't know why everyone is discounting Aloe just because she has nice things to say about Cover.
Because in Japanese culture you don't talk shit about employers unless they directly wronged you. You avoid all things that might put them in a bad light at all. Plus, Triangle has repeatedly stated she has no beef with Cover and that they did well enough by her, and that her graduation was strictly on her in the end.

>>3894716
So you're admitting that she's in fact, spreading misinfo?

>>3894586
Speak for yourself, whore.

>>3894716
>I don't know why everyone is discounting Aloe
Veibae can't speak nihongo and Triangle hasn't been doing her reps.

>>3894645
It's probably Artia
Aloe doesn't even speak a lick of english.
One reason more to keep this snake away from cover. Fraternizing with the chinks of all people.

>>3894778
There's a difference between spreading it maliciously like all the fags here seem to be implying and doing it because you have bad info.
>>3894777
Doesn't change that she was treated extremely poorly and left due to harassment. She may have left on amicable terms with cover but the circumstances behind her leaving weren't nice.

>>3894513
most of the IPs are people bickering is why

>>3894836
She even said word for word "They promote their talents as idols, and then they get doxxed and shit." Who the fuck else could she be talking about? Everyone in this thread is retarded for not being able to figure out this extremely simple puzzle. A quick Google search even leads to threads where people assume the reason she was fired was because she was doxxed which would again support the argument that Vei is making. https://twitter.com/out_sall/status/1295377615117848576 We have the foresight of several months between now and then but in the moment there was a lot we didn't fucking know.

>>3894836
>There's a difference between spreading it maliciously like all the fags here seem to be implying and doing it because you have bad info.
Slander is slander. If you intended to speak harmful words about an entity and do not do your due diligence in verifying your info before speaking, that is called willful negligence. In the first world that is enough to prove slander.

>>3894683
>>3894827
The chink yab hadn't happened yet, and Artia wasn't retired. Her being the source is extremely unlikely.

>>3892677
She's killed millions, though.

She won't have sex with you

>>3894836
The fact is she claims she wasn't treated poorly by Cover at all and puts the blame on herself for refusing the help they were trying to give her at the time, something she now regrets.

>>3894983
I won't have sex with her.,,,,

>>3894989
>puts the blame on herself for refusing the help they were trying to give her at the time, something she now regrets.
Source or clip of this? Sounds interesting

>>3894906
It's not defamation in any form because it hasn't caused Cover any demonstrative harm to their business or reputation. And, no, you fucks sperging out about it is not "harming" Cover.

>>3894787
Yes anon, I'm a "whore", and damn well aware.
At least I don't try to hide it, which in that case me and the people around me know what to expect from each other.
Sadly, that's not the case for the idols some simps idolize over. Their entire reputation is built on layers upon layers of lies, and it only needs one slip for the ball to start inevitably rolling towards an irreversible downward spiral.
Hope you're happy with your oshi, anon, regardless on how fake or genuine they are, because we all know it wont last forever.

>>3894890
"after the actual idols who left hololive talked about it...", Her exact words. So you're saying she is fucking retarded by taking the words someone unrelated said and attributing them to a retired hololive talent?

>>3894989
Public claims always match private ones, amirite fellas? I'm not saying it is Aloe, but acting like her public voice making nice nice with Japanese big penis companies as is honor and folded 1000 times is the only one she can ever have is pretty naive.

>>3895046
It's not about the fact that she is a whore, but about the fact that is starting to get boring only to get attention, fucking attentionwhore.

>>3895094
It is very much about the fact that she is a whore

>>3895101
Ok well, Veibae is a whore, we know. But all the Vshojos use SEX as the selling point, which starts to get boring at some point. Why do you think Ironmouse is the most liked one? She is the only one that admits that is a whore, but doesn't spout it 24/7 like Veibae and Nyanners do. Heck, even fucking Mel leaves that shit to her chaturbate whore shit. Purityfags are only the japs.

>>3894928
Well, that makes it look bad for her even more now. I didn't think that it was only Aloe who left. No way she can talk to her, much more to Hitomi Chris

Basically

>She talked out of her ass

>>3895085
>says this about the girl that got harrassed for shittalking a company

>>3895182
Ironic, ain't it?

>>3895085
So you're saying Aloe talked to random gaijin indie Vtuber in private about it? Does Veibae even know Japanese? the rrat is too weak.

>>3894617
>implying that I wasn't already watching Hololive when all the yab shit talking happened
Anon, please.

>>3895198
Literally nowhere does Veibae say she talked to someone directly. She's just repeating what she heard which, at the time, was that a HL talent was fired after she got doxxed. That turned out not to be the case but if that's what it looks like then that's what she saw.

>after the actual idols that have left hololive talked about it and the way that they're treated—keep defending it dude
This is her referencing positive statements of abuse from multiple talents that do not exist

>>3895046
Well yes, of course, you whore. Nothing in this world lasts forever and I wouldn't want to wish a childless, loveless future on my oshi of all people. But for as long as she chooses to dabble in this profession, she should remain pure. It's frankly not that much to ask for the money she is making. I mean the vestals of Rome were set for life, too, and had to be chaste for 30 years or faced death.

>>3891655
holofag idol larpers are so retarded
most all of these girls (and coco) were friends with a memeber of vshojo before hololive
there is no "infection" or "ruining" to take place, if it was going to ruin your en oshi it would have before their debut

>>3895381
pure concentrated autism

>>3895343
Honestly what the fuck did she mean by this? Only 2 people left by the time that video was done and aloe didn't say anything for weeks

>>3895219
She literally, said she spoke to, "Past hololive talent". The hell are you on about?

>>3895417
where do you think you are, faggot?

>>3895343
I'm gonna laugh if it is actually niji talents instead

>>3895417
If seeing things for what they are is autism then so be it.
Women have it ridiculously easy compared to around the world. They just don't need to step out of line and there future is secure. In the west even that is no longer a requirement.

>>3895343
Yeah, at this point only one talent had actually left Hololive itself, and she was still hiding away from people at the time.
You can't even consider Hitomi Chris as having "left" since she was likely in jail. Not to mention she's a literal who to 90% of people not on /vt/.

>>3895473
If what she saw was the aloe twitcast then that would be about niji

>>3894574
you could have worded that in a way that didn't make you sound like a jealous tranny

Thank to people like her that fans take their eyes off the real cause of Aloe graduation and blame it all on purity/idolfags. Idiots have their uses.

>>3893345
How about some meds? Looks like you need some

>>3895522
That actually sounds plausible since this happened while Aloe was suspended.

>>3895447
I looked at the clip just now and didn't hear her say that. Is there more than one clip? If she did then where is it said cause she has an accent and maybe I misheard.

Why can't we like both, and leave it at that?

>>3895634
because veibae is a disgusting whore and I don't like that kind of thing

>>3895634
>shittalks hololive
>wants to collab with holo without even doing a single apology
Fuck her, she doesn't deserve to collab with kiara

>>3895388
Coco said she knew Melody before VShojo, not before Hololive

Melody was an indie in Chaturbate for months before being picked up by VShojo

How can you fucks forget about that simple fact?

Coco simply knew Melody when she was still making horny teenagers masturbate over a 3d anime girl; that doesn't mean Coco and Melody were friends IRL

>>3895712
You don't get to call that, the collab's a thing by virtue of the implication that they talked it out.
If Kiara really cared about this autism, she would've cancelled it by now.

>>3895631
She didn't say on the lines of spoke to past hololive talent. It's more on just her stating hearsay from a source affiliated more likely.

>>3895895
I gave you a direct quote here
>>3895343
It's her openly lying about having sources. You can try to spin it if you want but she's on camera telling lies.

>>3895816
>the collab's a thing by virtue of the implication that they talked it out.
I can believe this. after all she liked a reply to a tweet defending cover when someone was agreeing with the video sent to her.

>>3895816
>you don't get to call that
"""We""" sure do, if veibae gets enough shit for that clip cover will either step in or kiara will have to wake up, and you can't say this place doesn't have any influence on the community after the whole ollie yab

>>3895930
That's not saying she spoke to someone directly it's literally what everyone else has been saying where she was going off hearsay. "After the actual idols that have left hololive talked about it" is a passive voice and not even remotely implying she talked to someone directly. Are you ESL or something?

In case other's didn't see the other part from the stream
https://streamable.com/2ikvnm

>>3895963
what happened with that? I remember the ollie yab itself but what was the outcome?

>>3895989
Ollie is known as a masturbation addict now

>>3895984
/vt/ really fucking hates vtubers if they try to mobilize to stop two friends from hanging out together because of their own personal hangups

>>3893296
Link to video of her calling HoloEN dumb? I wanna see it

>>3895984
>it's literally what everyone else has been saying where she was going off hearsay.
Holy moly, she was actually believing rrats! You can't make this shit up. At this point I can only direct Vei to pic related.

>>3896026
And she's too proud and embarrassed to admit that she fell for it so she deletes all the evidence she can find

>>3896050
>>3894617

>>3893381
Kiara is based as fuck

>>3895984
She doesn't say that, does she retardchama? She says "after the actual idols that have left hololive talked about it" not, "from what I hear" or "an idiot on twitter told me".

>>3896022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7cRwGNs2iY
She called hololive in general disgusting for roleplaying

>>3896061
The uploads on youtube also disappeared and no one cared enough to put it up again until now

>>3893827
>Welcome to the mountaintop
>Where we make the bodies drop
You don't even need to change the lyrics

>>3893459
Show some proofs then retard

>>3896096
The dumb bitch doesn't understand self-restraint, maintaining desire, and quality.
She's entitled to her opinion I guess, even if it's a shitty one.

>>3896080
>>3895984
>after the actual idols that have left hololive talked about it
Woah, woah, wait a second. Hololive themselves never directly addressed these situations. Hololive itself never cleared up any of the shit. All the evidence we have is translations and behind the scenes detective work. So, thepoint still stands, where she did she pull these sources from.

>>3896158
from hlg

>>3896158
Disregard the esl-jank typos. I still need to take my meds.

Please remember to send your complaints to cover

>>3896096
Is she wrong? look at this board if you want to see what kind of fans this shit creates.

>>3896096
Imagine calling other people disgusting when you're a whore that fucked people to get carried in overwatch

>>3893901
You've never touched a women in years haven't you ?

>>3895777
watson and silvervale were friends before hololive

>Even most r*ddittors are saying they won't watch
That is... interesting. It's too late to stop the collab from happening but this mass dissent suggests that it really will be a one-off. You know the company is seeing it.
Pretext of an industry meetup (That HoloEN kind of had to attend or risk being seen as even more stuck up), rejection by the general public, it being Kiara (expendable) and not one of the good ENs. The way I see it, this honestly might end up being the best case scenario if a Hololive Vshojo collab had to happen eventually.
Now, we just need a good, public yab as the nail in the coffin, and if ANYONE can deliver me that, it's the chicken.
/vt/ is counting on you Kiara!

>>3896236
Anon I think you got the wrong yab, she isn't saying the stuff connor did, she's actually shitting on the company and the talents

>>3894049
Who the fuck are you talking about ?

>>3896318
And? is she not entitled to her opinion? If Kiara dosen't have a problem why do you?

>>3896096
>all the idols that have left hololive and how they talked about it
does she mean the only talent that has left hololive and, to my knowledge, expressed regrets about leaving afterwards?

>>3891655
Someone call a suicide hotline for Kiara, since she clearly hates herself if she wants to stay friends with this bitch.

>>3896381
At this point in the timeline only one idol has actually left Hololive, and no one has heard from her in years.

>>3894099
Kiara is the holos with the most superchat within Holo En and if she wanted to collab to get more sub why the fuck would she do it with someone way smaller than her ? Seethe harder you faggot

>>3896316
I don't think anything will happen to Kiara and I honestly hope the collab goes well and that all of this shit-flinging is exactly that, shitflinging.
But I find it difficult to trust somebody that lied about an entire company to try and concernfag over POKIMANE of all people.

>>3896381
At this point not even Vei knew who it was

>>3893059
>Twitch vtubers

>>3896318
She says like 3 times in the clip that she likes the talents.

>>3896351
>I think cover is a shitty company, the hololive members are losers and eat shit, and the fans are disgusting
Sure, she can have that opinion, but after saying all that and not backing down she shouldn't have the right to be near a holo member, the only reason she can is because this hasn't reached cover's ears yet

>>3894285
>>3894266
You all will die as sad, lonely virgin

>nooooo you can't call my idol cringe for roleplaying a fucking bird for autistic gachikois who have never touched a woman
yup I'm thinking based

>>3896473
>dude the roleplaying is disgusting
>but actually I like the roleplaying
>but the roleplaying is disgusting
She doesn't know what the fuck she's saying

>>3895963
That reddit thread that discusses Kiara got permission for vshojoo collab is locked now. Likely because someone posted that clip

>>3896483
That's for Cover to decide not you. And they haven't said anything about it so why do you care?

>>3896381
She's making shit up so she's actually lying

>>3896473
She likes the talents so much that she made a whole movie in her head that more than 1 person has left hololive and that they all said the dark secrets about it and made her delusion reality, or maybe she doesn't know shit about hololive and never watched them and she's just saying that to save a bit of face

>>3896512
Literally the line right before I like the roleplay is "I like the streamers."

>>3896525
because veibae is a disgusting whore and I don't like that kind of thing

>>3896550
Sounds alot like the Rrats this board makes up and believes. Are you guys the only people that can believe in them?

>>3896525
It's ok I'm reporting the clip multiple times already, cover WILL do something about it, it has been done before and it will be done again

>>3896473
>"I like you, but..."
>"This is good, but..."
>"She is nice, however..."
That's something that you do to when you want to be an asshole but appear well meaning.

>>3896563
>>3896550

>>3896577
You sound alot like the people that harrased Aloe into graduation. in fact there's no difference

>>3896573
Yes because we're not public figures

>>3896490
Remove the virgin (cursed peer pressure), add a ton of regrets, and that's me bro.

>>3896605
Baww

>>3896309
I'm not arguing that. We know Watson made Silvervale's model

I'm mostly talking about the retards that though Coco and Mel were friends before Hololive when she obviously meant she knew Mel when Mel was showing off her anime pussy in Chaturbate

>>3896605
How do you know how aloe's dad is like anon

>>3892711
Good. Hopefully it'll make Kiara graduate

>>3896605
The difference is that it'll lead to nothing.
This place's autism can't even compete to the potential autism Nip schizos can put up when they're riled up.
There's also the cultural differences. If Vei was Nip, she'll retire out of pressure, shame, depression, etc.
She's not though, so chances are she'll just say it's a view that she grew out off and leave it at that.

veibae exclusively fucks fat guys

>>3896677
Yeah it's not Vei who's quitting over this shit, she gives absolutely no fucks about an army of spergs screaming into the void. Shame about Kiara though.

Why does Kiara actively seek out being the black sheep of holoEN? Contrarian reasons?

>>3896677
Your right but the mindset is exactly the same which is the problem. Fucking someone over because they have a different opinion is fucked up.

>>3896714
Good
It'll do EN good to remove that leech.

>>3896731
The dark age she spent in Nipland did a number on her sanity, anon.

do you think they'll stop vei from talking about her period or sex during the collab, because that's her only content.

>>3896738
>fucking someone over
Damn veibae won't get to leech the company she shittalked about, how awful. You know how aloe would be treated if she shittalked hololive and then joined hololive after that?

Veibae seems kind of fake. The way she talks sounds like she's reading off a fucking script. Didn't she change her model after joining vshoujo too? Does she have rights to that model or does vshoujo keep the rights to that? If anything it sounds like she's just faking a personality behind her avatar so people don't see her reading the script.

>>3896763
No, and she'll goad Kiara into talking about the superiority of BBC as well. /vt/ will have to sticky a suicide hotline.

>>3896778
This shit makes you seriously no different then the average twitter cunt that thinks cancelling someone is fine. You only hate vshoujo because they're western. Hololive literally did fucking swimsuit livestreams and you guys beg and moan for them to come back. your all a bunch of idotic weebs

Are people ignoring that the clip is really old and since then she's spoken to HoloEN and has come to accept Hololive?

All the misinformation she's heard was probably from rrats dipshits in /jp/ were posting, so in many ways this is probably entirely /jp/ own making. A full circle of seethe.

Wait do people here actually like vei? Why the fuck are anons actually defending her

>>3896823
why would a streamer go online and repeat rrats from 4chan

>>3891655
>Holofags seething THIS hard
Um...based?
Also I think it's funny that Vei has more Japanese viewers than all of HoloEn combined

>>3896823
>has come to accept Hololive
Never apologized, in fact she's actively banned anyone who pointed out her hypocrisy. Explain to me how she 'has come to accept Hololive'.

>>3896787
she owns the model, she had a donation goal for it mid last year back when she was a half-decent vtuber.

>>3896831
She's cute and good at video games

>>3896787
You just described every HoloEn

>>3896819
I don't hate vshoujo, I hate veibae, find me one clip where a holo shittalks another company then collabs with the company and I'll welcome her with open arms and donate to her next time

>>3896823
>believing rrats from 4chan
>Spouting rrats on stream
>Framing it in such a way that makes it sound like hololive talked about this
She really is negligent don't you think.

>>3896823
Has she apologized?

>>3896861
>people keep trying to resurface a year old clip to "prove" she still believes something she obviously doesn't
yeah no shit people get banned for harassment all the time.

>>3896858
>Vei has more Japanese viewers than all of HoloEn combined
not anymore most of her Japanese viewers stopped watching when she changed her stream schedule

>>3896872
>>3896878
Retards don't even know this faggot's just repeating what she said and exchanged hololive for her.

>>3896899
Has she apologized yet?

>>3896921
She won't kneel before autists, anon. Your seetheposts amount to nothing.

>>3896899
>hey Veibae I thought you didn't like Hololive
>get b&
So much for harassment.

>>3896921
Should she? You act like everyone's going to suddenly be cool with it if she did and drawing attention to it is just a dumb move. She's shown in her actions that she's fine with the company now and only autists are still up in arms over this.

>>3896944
Cover kneels before autists though, she can forget about leeching hololive after the german event

Why are holofags such fucking babies?

I don't give a shit that it's vshojo, just veibae specifically. She's an unironic rratposter within her own industry, and even if tribalfaggotry is bad and Cover fucking sucks ass (it does), you should stay the fuck away from someone who jumps into drama and blatantly invents inside sources for the sake of pushing retarded narratives, that aren't even in the top 50 reasons why the company you work for sucks.

Also because veibae is just horrifically bad as a streamer and you wouldn't want your community cross-pollinated with people who unironically find this kind of shit entertaining: https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1386851117888331784?s=19

>>3896897
>>3896921
When did the chinese arrive?

Hey, just to remind you, that it doesn't matter what's your oppinion, you are a crying faggot mad at other faggots.
You don't actually believe what you are typing, you don't care about what other people are enjoying, you are in an endless cycle of fighting to defend your 2D waifus from a non-existant threat.
You are not here to debate, you are here to bring more shit to a shithole you'll never escape from. Do you think you are different for using "logic"? Think about it again, you are still a schizo.
Holofags, VShojofags, keep fighting, you'll be miserable as long as you keep your console wars or try to fight back against nonsense.
YWNBJ/YWNBAW

>>3896967
>Should she?
Yes, it's basic decency, and if she can't apologize in public then she shouldn't be allowed to collab with hololive just because of the fact that everyone will bring this clip up when she does, it's only trouble for the holo since she doesn't care

>>3896998
It's kinda funny because a prominent vtuber is a schizo just like us. The rrats are truly taking over.

>>3896998
Doesn't include niji in here. Must be a nijifaggot

>>3896991
Coco apologized anyways, veibae hasn't even faked an apology

>>3892770
>>3893201
>>3893541
If your best argument is "why are you defending cover", then you basically admit that what she said is wrong. If you think what she said is right you would be defending the content of what she said and not just throw buzzwords around.

Veibae is good bros, just watch clips of her doing collabs with other girls.

>>3891655
I'm just gonna down vote any collab stream that comes from this and not watch it or Kiara ever again desu.

>>3897143
Thank you, I'll check later.
A specific clip you recommend?

Imagine a collab with kiara's chicken german that you can barely understand and veibae's whore polish you can barely understand. 2 girls with speech impediment. How do you even watch that collab anyways.

>>3897154
Good

>>3897174
Yeah https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4

I like Ironmouse

I like Hololive and am also a fan of Vei. I don't get why some Hololive fans take so much offense to her opinion on the ccompany. She's not misinformed or hypocritical at all, it's a legitimate stance to take on her industry. She's clearly never advocated for boycotting or canceling Cover, just genuinely dislikes idol industry black practices. I've been watching Vei since her debut days and have always wanted collab with the eventual Hololive EN branch so this is a dream come true.

>>3897235
Holofags are mentally ill and/or underage so don't take it seriously and enjoy the seethe

>>3897210
Me too

>>3896970
>tanking holoEN to own a mid-tier vshojo streamer
I wish you the best in your crusade

>>3897235
They mostly hung up on the part where she said they are scripted characters and have fake personalities and also the fact that she says her sources are someone that's a former idol of hololive. People shit on cover all the time but she basically insulted the actual talents this time.

Honestly the collab benefits vshoujo more than holoEN. I don't see why kiara should give a rival company more control of the market just so she can up her numbers and stream with a friend

>>3894940
Trillions, even. They all have.

>>3896921
Why would she in the first place?

>>3897235
>to her opinion
Willfully and knowingly spreading misinformation and lying about having sources is not offering your opinion.
Not to mention people get mad at others for their opinions all the time anyways.

>>3897371
Kiara is a contrarian and is just trying to lash out at her detractors.

>Vei Kiara
>Mouse Mori
>Silverveil Ame
>N*anner Gura?
>Froot Ina?

>>3897235
>She's not misinformed or hypocritical at all
Not my stance, but this is what people are bringing up, from what I have seen:
>Why Cover should not keep the models they commissioned?
>Who are those contacts from Hololive she's talking about?
>If it's scripted, why they allow things like Asacoco or HoloMythCast?
>What's so bad about Idol culture per se?
I Vei's comments are derived from the Aloe situation, to be honest

In a different timeline vei would be one of the most popular western indies on this board

>>3897235
I fail to see how saying
>after the actual idols that have left hololive talked about it and the way that they're treated—keep defending it dude
is an opinion.

>>3897403
*I think

Ironmouse, Mel, and Silvervale are the only shojos I can trust. The other ones are literal whores. Which is funny because Mel masturbates for money but she's way more upfront with it than the simpbaiters.

Can I just go into the collab, give it a dislike and leave without a view being counted once it happens? Do I need to use ad block or similar to ensure that I stay in the clear?

I'm shocked people would take issue with someone shiting on there favorite vtubers and refusing to acknowledge she was wrong and then procede to leech on them like nothing happened, the nerve of these fags.

>>3893059
>Me me me me me me me me. This is how this effects me. It's not fair that Hololivers should get advantages I don't get, and they don't even get to keep their models so they can leave the company when they want either - which is a women's right afterall.

What a fucking whore. Why are western women streamers like this? I don't know what I was expecting, but Holy fuck. Despite what everyone says here Kiara can be pretty savvy when it comes to the business. I hope she knows better than to actually collab with this bitch.

>>3897371
Why are you fags like this? Hololive collabs with their "competition" all the fucking time in Japan.

>>3897425
Silvervale lashed out against her own fans

>>3897479
Show me.

>>3897403
>derived from the Aloe situation

So that means she had no direct sources from talents that left Hololive?

Then why would she lie saying that she talked to people that left Holo and that they can only say bad things about the company?

>>3897425
Tell me something about Froot that make you think she's a whore.

>>3897519
Cheated on her husband and scammed people with patches.

>>3897447
Pretty sure you need to watch for 30s for it to be counted as view.

>>3897466
The competition arn't god awful western women

>>3897401
>Vei Kiara
>Silverveil Ame
Ewww...
>Mouse Mori
>N*anner Gura?
>Froot Ina?
HOLY SHIT, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO-

>>3897536
Spicy

>>3897425
>simpbaiters
But every chuuba that engages in GFE are like that

>>3897466
Literally just asking what's the value in it.

>>3897479
>>3897506
I think he's referring to a fag that kept saying in chat about wanting Silver to collab with Mouse, she became upset and started ranting about entitled fans. I don't watch VShojo, but I think she kinda apologized

>>3897401
The Mouse/Mori collab is paradoxically the only one that has the potential to be good

>>3897536
That's one of HoloCN though.
Can't remember which one.

>>3897511
If you think about it she can't even speak japanese and has no contact to anyone major in japan. So why would any hololive employee speak to her in the first place

>>3897511
The members that left are ALoe, Chris, 3 members of Stars, and all of CN. I don't see a reason any of the japanese side would talk to her over someone actually japanese. And all of CN that can speak english are not trustworthy anyways.

>>3897606
>A Texan and a Latina
I can already see it.

I'm giving my opinion, I must admit that I don't care about VShojo or keep track of them, Idol culture > Twitch culture, but if a colllab it's going to happen:

>Ironmouse & Melody
They are fine, people will say they are whores but I think they are the most competent and "less slutty" of the group
>Froot
Don't know about her, except for the rrats about her past, but I'll trust the Vshojofags who say she's wholesome
>Nyanners and Veibae
These two make me worry. While I don't hate her even as a lolicon, Nyanners has a past as a raging SJW, so I hope she grew up out of it. Veibae? look at the thread, but I can't also say I hate her.
>Silvervale//Zentreya////////Hime Hajime
Don't know, don't care

But here is the thing, VShojofags keep mentioning that the girls can behave when they are with outsiders, so that's a good thing. Even then, if HLxVS is a thing, Cover can put the restrictions they want so they'll not start talking about cum; if they push the boundaries, no more collabs with VShojo.

I'll personally wait until it's an actual reality.

>>3897746
People keep saying the time of the clip was September, so CN couldn't have been then.
And why they fuck they would contact Chris?

>>3897840
>>3897746
It's very likely that they would not even be able to contact Chris, even assuming they knew about her.
Chris didn't get into Hololive because she sexually blackmailed a Cover employee, who turned himself in and confessed to fucking a minor that was blackmailing him to become an idol. She definitely spent nights in a cell or at least under house arrest. And since she never became public at all we don't have any info to trace back to her roommate.

>>3897794
I doubt the actual collabs would be Yab worthy, it's probably the aftermath where one of the member react to some nasty comments.

>>3897840
Honestly she probably just got it from a rrat somewhere and spread it and said she got it from a credible source. None of the people mentioned would ever talk to her for obvious reasons.

>>3897886
If Reddit and Twitter are getting up in arms about the Veibae clip, I forsee chat getting cancerous.
Hopefully KFPfags have their memberships, because I'm willing to bet that if the collab is on Kiara's channel it's going to be members only.

>>3897886
Everyone here can unlike it and it'll be 500 dislikes. It'll just be a nothingburger stream and people will move on. If vei apologized, great. If not I'll just assume she did so privately to kiara. I'll probably skip the stream either way because this whole thing will just be in the back of my head as i'm watching anyways.

>>3897235
Then why did she delete the vods and ban people who mentioned her stance?

>>3897939
Reddit and twitter will not shit up kiara's chat just to make veibae apologize. They'll just boycott it at best since they don't want to harm kiara.

>>3897536
How do people even know she did in fact cheat and what the hell are "patches" and what was the scam?

>>3897464
If anything this has made me more jaded on Kiara. This makes the Olie Connor rrats look tame in comparison. At this point I wouldn't be shocked if the rrats are true and this went from a passing idea to full blown inevitably because she's getting back at the community for giving her shit for wanting to collab with vthots from twitch.

>>3897884
>>3897916
Anyway, how much influence does Vei have so JPs are able to contact her?
I believe she got her information from the opinions surrounding what happened to Aloe or even from rrats

>>3897939
There can be the toxic elements on chat, but see>>3898009

>>3898049
Apparently Froot has a past on /k/ making patches, and there's this story about her military husband being on duty and she cheating on him

>>3898075
Based if true but it also makes her a bitch. A based bitch

>>3898099
She literally can't even speak japanese. And this is before her joining vshoujo too.

I mean probably likely Veibae was in contact with a regular staff, not a Hololive talent

>>3898112
She's become the worst EN girl for me.

>>3898158
Well, that seems pretty bad

>>3898160
That makes as much sense as saying that my uncle works at Nintendo

>>3898160
Staff are most likely all japanese so no. Even if they can speak english why is veibae the first person they go to and after that they don't talk to anyone else? It doesn't make sense. She could possibly got it from a random kid online that said his uncle works for cover and she believed them.

>>3898160
The more we line up the facts, the more likely that it is that she bought into some rrats hard.
Never forget, schizo posters, your strongest narratives are too powerful for most mortals.

>>3898160
Or maybe it's someone who's posing to be affiliated with Hololive. It ain't exactly the first time that happened.

>>3898191
>She's become
Who was it before?
inb4 Mori

>>3898284
I see youtube comments post narratives from here all the time. Honestly funny how it spreads.

>>3898288
No way she's dumb enough to think that Cover, a japanese company, would have an employee approach her in english and tell her all the juicy gossip exclusively.

Okay from seeing this unfolding, maybe Vei will have to adress this soon.
Not because she "needs to apologize", but the backslash could become a problem, and I'm not talking about /vt/, I'm talking about Twitter and Reddit.
The comments don't make sense, you can argue it's just an opinion, but when you say that this opinion is backed up by other people and it seems to be false, unintentionally or not, you're a liar.
Of course Vei doesn't have to say anything in the long run, but if this goes from being a nothingburger to actual disapproval from a portion of the fanbase, I don't think it will end 100% well.
Of course, this is just speculation, so form your own opinion.

>>3898371
We've come to the point where I can safely say she's just talking out of her ass and not worth reasoning anymore. This was just her spouting pure ignorance to fortify her claims of idol industry.

>>3898099
That's the problem, all I see every time is "there's a story". I'm not a shithead who'll say something like "oh and I have stories about your mom", but I won't be biased just because "someone supposedly wrote something on an anonymous imageboard".
Same about patches, but that I can believe a bit more at least, who knows what actually happens when artists do something for money.
Also I would've liked to listen to her side of the story as well, but I wouldn't bother her with that. Personally (in other words subjective opinion of a simple viewer) I don't care about her past, it has nothing to do with me, well except that I saw her artwork even before she became a vtuber.
Thanks for answering though.

Vshojo threads belong to /trahs/ fuck off this board

>>3898515
Oh no, el presidente of the board.
Anyway.

>>3898491
No problem anon
Have a nice day

>>3898515
Based

>>3898434
No, Vei doesn't have to apologize

Anytime someone from the Holo fandom will bring this up just say "Shut the fuck up idolfaggot", which I assume Vei's white knights will be using.

At the end of the day it's up to Cover on how they address it, and the end of the day they still lose: a) if Cover is okay with the Vshojo collab that means they're fine with Veibae calling them a black company whose idols say they're shit to work with or b) Cover cancels the collabs and it "proves" to Vshojo fans that Hololive IS a shit company to work in

Nothing happens to Veibae here

>>3899706
Cover is ok with it, they've shut down the Reddit thread that was shitting on Veibae

>>3899734
is there an archive or screenshots of this?

>>3897592
I wish she hadn't apologized, she was absolutely right.

>>3899798
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/nfbvpr/kiara_just_confirmed_she_got_permission_to_collab/

>>3899706
Never said the contrary, but yeah.

Keep in mind that this isn't about Vei being an "hypocrite" or a "leech". Idolfags may seethe, but who's saying that there will be place to laugh at them? That's why I mentioned the backslash, so she can at least sugarcoat it

I'm not saying that Vei has to do a dogeza or say "Sorry my rude comments", just say "My opinion of Cover has changed over time and maybe I judged them wrong".

Mind you, she's not obligated to say this and can think however the fuck she wants, but if I was her, I would say something to change that image of me, if someone's not okay with it after that, then they can fuck off.

>>3900062
Samefagging.
Well, thinking better.
If you don't like it, don't watch it I guess.
Not that I'm fully convinced, but let's see.

>>3900062
>My opinion of Cover has changed over time and maybe I judged them wrong
so you want her to fib to make vshojo look good?

>>3900107
Actually, yes. Her opinion came a bit from a wrong angle with all the facts that are miss. Saying a positive opinion will calm down the tits of some schizos outside of here.

THAT SAID, she's perfectly entitled to her opinion and doesn't need to change if she doesn't have a positive opinion about companies like Cover or Ichikara. People need to learn to respect some opinions if there's not big deal.

>>3896819
>You only hate vshoujo because they're western
Listen here, you word this shit as if disliking them for being western as something arbitrary, when you ignore that being a western female comes with all the woke progressist bullshit that many of us are tired of hearing and having shoved down our throats by the media and our govenrments.
Sure jp girls can act as slutty as the western hoes, but at least they will still get offended at being called sluts and won't be all "ackshually theres nothing wrong with being a whore, incel" or ask people to respect "trans rights" or talk about BLM, you kek
Also at least for Hololive, many of their girls have social autism, while Veibae looks like you average tryhard stacy that has a higher bodycount than an entire american platoon on the Iraq War
So cope, seethe and dilate, Vkek and fuck off with your e-thots

>>3899734
Isn't kiara a moderator of the hololive reddit?

This board really degenerated into lolcow 2.0.

>>3900878
What did you expect?

>>3898488
She seems to do this a lot. Very talkative, very opinionated, very disinterested in actually looking up anything and only going off vague general impressions. Some day it might bite her in the ass, but she mostly gets away with it because the criticism is just lazy surface level stuff that people will brush off.

>>3900819
She is, as was Artia

>talk shit about companies despite joining one
>talks a bunch of shit about hololive
>now will collab with one of them

Can one of the managers see the the clip where she is talking shit and cut vshojo collabs for good

>>3891655
Good, HoloEN shall come to an end.

I like mentally stable (as possible) women who love sex, how is her mental integrity?

>>3893534
Idolfags live for cancel culture
They're the SJWs of vtubing

Veibae collab post in r/hololive vs a normal daily post, not even reddit liked the idea of a collab, when not even the hugbox likes it...

Besides the obvious hugbox comments, there are lots criticising veibae for shitting in hololive and saying they have no interest in vshoujo, so admins locked the thread.
Still a collab will probably do fine, but it won't get more attention than a normal vid, maybe some curious vshoujo fans checking kiara will rise her numbers idk.

>>3901807
>Talk shit
>Get shit
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO CANCEL CULTURE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-