/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>55,852: Miko (Hololive)
>40,085: Pekora (Hololive)
>35,945: Lize (Nijisanji)
>29,658: Mito (Nijisanji)
>26,368: Ayame (Hololive)
>25,787: Lamy (Hololive)
>20,592: Tamaki (Noripro)
>19,929: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>19,128: Nene (Hololive)
>17,889: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,189: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>15,991: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,920: Akira (Nijisanji)
>15,591: Kobo (Hololive)
>15,471: Flare (Hololive)
>14,803: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,352: GatchmanV (Indie)
>14,192: Mio (Hololive)
>13,088: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,955: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,196: Watame (Hololive)
>11,982: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,804: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,555: Meloco (Nijisanji)
>11,425: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,944: Hex (Nijisanji)

There's a real idol in Kobo totsu?

Tempus was a mistake

>>38837831
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Mio, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
23x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

Do we know what the ???? is? Another single?

Was bored and since everyone was shitposting music numbers i checked Amelias King and its at 870k in 3 months. Slow crawl to 1m very very slow. I think i remember it hit 340k in 12 hours back on its release.

>>38838056
I completely forgot that she did a King cover

GRIM

Favorite timeloop?

>>38837977
Almost certainly Zutto Mayo

When was the last time a 3D live hit 1M views? Marine's?

Botted streams.

>>38837977
According to /morig/, it's a new song with Zutomayo.

>>38837977
another flop song

>>38837846
yeah they talked about jkt and akb, and some other idol stuff

>>38838256
Yeah, they don’t usually hit 1 million. Even Shuba’s legendary 3D live last year didn’t hit 1 mil until after Yagoo mentioned it being his highlight of the year. Only true 1st army chuubas like ayame and Gura can break it easily

>>38837977
She has a song with The Oral Cigarettes?

>>38838582
OJOU-SAMA!
>I KNEEL!
I'M YOUR SERVANT AND YOUR SLAVE!

>>38838644
God hfz in its heyday was something wish i could watch it still

>>38838256
Suisei's, it was the next day.

I have for some reason got sent to Kiara, she mentioned day1 sales of the ugly christmas sweater thing was sold out day 1, restocked day 2 and likely sold out as well. Happened 3 minutes in the stream, I can't take the voice anymore so I am checking out.

>>38838937
>I have for some reason got sent to Kiara, she mentioned day1 sales of the ugly christmas sweater thing was sold out day 1, restocked day 2 and likely sold out as well.
She has no reason to lie. I STILL CAN'T FUCKING BUY THE BLACK ONE IN NA. NO I'M NOT BUYING THE EVEN UGLIER GREY ONE YOU STUPID CHICKEN MAKE THEM STOCK MORE BLACK

Tonight bros >>38338811

Chicken please, there are no JP watchers that waited until 5 AM to race against you.

>>38839529
Finally... EN3 is here, for sure this time...

>>38838439
Where's my American idol group? It's not fair

>>38839801
>American idol group
Become the founder of NYC48!
>idols
>americans
roru
You'd have to adapt it to fit both concepts.

>>38839974
Disney seemed to do pretty well with it for a while. Most of the girls seem to end up crazy though.

I dunno if this counts as proof of VOD views cull or not, but just this morning I was replaying this Not!Anemachi's VOD, and it was only few hundred away from getting 10k.
I checked it again just now, and it just lost 1k views out of nowhere.

>>38839801
American AKB will get canceled due to human rights violations

>>38840068
I wonder what their mentality was.
The voices in my head tell me it's a good mentality to have a degree of separation with your public persona.

>>38840068
They got raped anon

I was looking at the 4bans list and I just saw the reason they gave for banning that one /NijiEN/ crosspost here

>>38840068
That's just superior American menhera

>>38840068

>>38840189
internchama...

>>38840068
Not exactly Disney but you get it.

>>38839974
Should we count those old boy bands as idol-adjacent?

>one hour thread
>38 posts
NUMBERS IS DEAD!
> PUT A STAKE ON IT!

>>38838212
Your soundpost is broken

>>38840290
BSB were the last idols.
Modern boy bands are just trying to imitate k-pop glittery style.

https://youtu.be/B6QjT5BAj9I
Moom soon

uuuuuu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9hKu0QCrHA
She really couldn't find a better fanart of her new outfit ? This looks like shit

>>38840550
>spoiler
Fuck you, now I can't unsee how the nose and the mouth are fucked.

>>38840069
Oh that’s pretty weird to see her get hit like that. Youtube time to time does cut views off streams after like 24 hours or during a cycle of sorts. But I feel like I remember seeing that vod around 9k+ before

>>38840512
Let's see if she learns the word lean

>>38840550
If she only uses the really good ones she'll get called out for blatant favoritism because then she'd have to reuse artists

>>38840550
looks good to me

>>38840658
Fuck that shit, they better do their reps if they want to be used as a thumbnail

>>38840550
fwiw I've only seen a handful of fanart for it and that one was one of them

>>38839801
I wonder how black an american idol company can get before they surpass Hollywood and their amazing track records of producing broken children.

>>38840737
No, she has a lot of them.

Kiara just confirmed Tempus is a mistake

Gura Duolingo finally hit the big 3M. The nerf hurt its growth hard, so I think this'll be its last notable milestone for a long time.

>>38840800
You don’t need to go any further than Disney. Britney Spears and Miley Cirus all came from their stock and they’re the closed thing America will have on the “idol” tend
>Christina Aguilera and Justin Timberlake as well, but they’re not screw ups

Are Bilibili numbers not as reliable as YT numbers or something? I know of an indie getting like 20k to 40k viewers on Bilibili

>>38840737
She has quite a few already

>>38840737
To be honest her outfit is kind of lame

EN3 just flew over my house

>>38838256
Gura's is at 1.5 million

>>38840896
That's unbelievable grim

>>38840369
Wait until Gura starts streaming anon

>>38840861
Based. I'm gonna member her now

Love this birb.

Yugo doko...

>>38840907
That's an understatement, you would have more reliable numbers with a number generator.

>>38840917
I swear I only see you fags say this. It's been extremely well received everywhere else and has actually gotten a shitton of fanart as well as more people saying they've fallen in love

>>38839700
EN 3 is a Fable

>>38840861
>vague posting

>>38840818
>>38840915
A lot is relative and I don't think a folder half full of cowkini, Faumei, and other assorted imahes is really convincing me
Like i said. Looks like a handful to me

>>38840983
Chilling out with Saddam Hussein

>>38841045
I just took a quick screenshot of my folder, but the point was that there already is better than the one she picked

>>38841045
Nigger you don't obsessively check her fucking tag like I do. Compared to normal? She's been getting a LOT. Literally more in total than the fucking low poly outfit that's had more time to fester. And they still keep coming in.

>>38841001
Nigga you don't have to convince me redditards and twitter trannies are mindless NPCs. This place is the only place that doesn't mindlessly fall in line and you think that's a bad thing?

>>38841001
>It's been extremely well received everywhere else
Just like Tempus right?

>has actually gotten a shitton of fanart
>as well as more people saying they've fallen in love
Numerical proof for these statements?

Kiara just said chumbuds were a mistake

>>38839529
Frfr

Oh my God who cares about the fucking thumbnail, global is that way, go talk about it there
Actually even /uuu/ is up but only one of you faggots bothered posting

>>38841149
Unless you retarded fags are actually drawing fanart (which I've yet to fucking see) then those places and their ability to eat shit matters more, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmU5cA3CSsM
What is the price of freedom?

It's funny seeing the Noutoddlers panic since Pekora's position as the #1 on Hololive is slipping to Miko. I love watching them seethe and cope. Couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of fags.

>>38840915
Of the 45 images in this pic only 14 are actual fan art of the outfit.

>Fauna’s costume was received
>half the people call her a nerd
>other half say how cute she looks
Well she already looked cute to begin with so I don’t think the costume added anything but nerdness to her.

>>38840907
about as reliable as niconicodouga numbers that b2 is based on
so not at all. both don't show you viewers but some "engagement" shit which they calculate via some weird ass ritual or something

>>38841224
Only 3k is basically a rounding error. Seems fine to me. She can gain that back in a week.

>>38840896
Do those people even really count? Idols are generally made to appeal to men but everyone from the disney stock was marketed for pre teen girls

>>38841256
Sadly there's nothing outstanding about her outfit
I don't even think it's a better casual outfit than Mumei's taisho roman to be honest

>>38841256
>A nerd
Yeah, a meme forming is a good thing and ensures good mindchair. Just look at Gura. Yeah, you can trash the RIGGER but her awkward movement and faces were extrememly memeable and is part of the reason she blew up the way she did.

>>38840068
Individualism was a mistake

Kiara just said we're including mysta's afterparty on the cripple tally

>>38840290
I think quite a few male idol groups in both Japan and Korea are basically boy bands. In fact, the success of the Beatles and other such bands was the inspiration for the creation of Johnny's which is generally considered the first idol agency in Japan.

Doppio"s numbers in this stream are very yikes inducing considering he his still under debut buff and doesn't paint a good picture for Kotoka and Zaion

>>38840550
Why did this get posted here 15 minutes before it got posted in /hlgg/

>>38841428
You're thinking of women's rights

>>38841476
oof

>>38841505
If you were around yesterday, Saplings literally show up when she starts then fuck off the moment she leaves.

>>38841505
This place is the beta test server. A lot of posts from here later become their own threads word for word.

>>38841130
>More than a outfit that was only at a paid event

>>38841637
That got posted all over fucking twitter yes

>>38841476
The timeslot and game choice is ass. Imagine losing to fucking Kiara with debut buff
Hex and Meloco are the ones to look out for I guess. Ver and Zaion currently mid tier but could potentially do better with buff content. Doppio and Kotoka already crashing.

Kiara just said she loves NijiEn and Vshojo more, confirmed that’s the reason she doesn’t collab with Gura.

>>38841505
this is the /news/ thread after all

>>38841699
Depends on what you're expecting from Hex and Mexico.

>>38841296
>as reliable as niconicodouga numbers
Nico2's numbers are, in fact, quite reliable, by which I mean it serves the purpose of showing how many unique IPs clicked on the video in a day, with the caveat that one unique IP can only give 1 view in 24 hrs.
And yes, we actually tested this a couple months back during Holo summer arc.
Bili2, though? The reason their numbers are considered 'magic' is because apparently, some accounts have the ability to give more views per click, which is based on some sort of score the account has. What score, you ask? Who knows.

>>38841326
Race drivers and "extreme sports" dudes are the nearest thing to idols for men in the West.

>>38841326
>Idols are generally made to appeal to men but everyone from the disney stock was marketed for pre teen girls
Britney Spears was the closest thing to the stereotypical idol up to the point
>being a virgin
was a selling point for her career. Then it got quite literally beaten out of her, first by pairing her up with Justin Timberlake, then by having her embarking into a cheap prostitute arc.
>in an interesting parallel with the current HoloEN trajectory

>>38840165
American AKB would have to go full woke and hire 50% black girls with their "natural" hair and body fat, no relationship ban of course because muh sexism and no talent requirements because that's ableist.

>>38838319
lmao this song title came to mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOlAUAlM4ys

>>38842134
Times were changing for the worse and they wanted her to reflect it.
I liked her sister more in Zoey 101.

>>38841149
You think this place is full of individuals and non-NPCs? Are you 15?
There is a line here too, it's just strqddled with slurs and contrarians.

How come thread is so nice (and slow) today? Was there a ban wave? I expected some "holokek" shitposting considering Niji won the cripple

>>38839801
>>38839974
>>38840068
>>38841428
There would be womens' rights marches for the rights of the idol group members to have sex with men and date publically

>>38842242
Don't say that name. It'll make me remember Victoria Justice.

>>38840068
getting gangbanged by ugly hollywood executives would drive anyone crazy

>>38842034
are idols for men guys you'd share a beer with?
pic related is my driver kamioshi then

>>38842279
Did you miss the day we encountered a redditfag that suggested that hololive members have no obligations and the viewers just have to tag along and accept everything?

>>38842134
>Idols shouldn’t remain pure! Let them live their lives
FUCK YOU, that’s what you fuckers told me about my childhood crush Lindsey Lohan. I will NOT let my fav Hololive Idols follow that path….. just look at mori before and after as well. I don’t want to lose anymore……

EN3 just hit the world trade center

>>38842405
holy shit, what happened to her face?
Herbie: Fully Loaded is still one of my favorite movies

>>38841338
>Mumei's taisho roman
That's one of the best alternative hololive costume.
You can't compare some normal costumes with perfection

>>38842444
We are finally getting some consistent EN events

>>38842405
She looks British

>>38842387
or that post arguing that debuting EN3 would be too much to keep up with and that you should watch nijiEN instead if you wanted a new more chuubas to watch

Oh jeez, Kiara. Basically confirmed the theories about her and Mori not being close friends anymore.

>>38842611
Kind of, but rather that they have gotten along better as of recently

>>38842611
timestamp and transcription?

>>38842405
Somehow hilary duff turned out relatively unscathed being a disney child actress. Makes me wonder how those two had completely outcomes due to hollywood

>>38842611
She also said that they've been getting along much better recently, talking a lot more

>>38842405
which one turned out to be a coked out whore that cut herself and had to get into rehab?

>>38842611
Are you still in 2021 or something?

>>38841543
Oof x2

>>38842318
The holokek poster is literally just 1 or 2 people and they were busy in the catalog and /NijiEN/ this morning.

>>38842657
https://youtu.be/LPoBQUJpXWE?t=6000
In the minutes after this. Stream is still ongoing so I just did quickmaths for the timestamp

>>38842502
It's up there tied with the dirndl. Honestly I'm a sucker for those.

>>38842387
>>38842610
>Replying to the guy who reposts reddit posts completely unedited
You guys are why he keeps doing it

>>38842405
Funniest thing?
>she ended up converting to Islam
WHO ON HOLOEN WILL FOLLOW SUIT?!
>NINOMAE INANIS TURNING INTO NINOSALAM INAHALAM WHEN!?!?!?!

>>38842502
>Taisho roman
Wait...isn't that what that Luxiem drawing got cancelled for?

>>38842502
I'd say that anything late 19th-20th century Western inspired is great. Irrelevant here but I'd say that men's fashion is currently peaking, suits are at a great point

>>38843085
Yes but it's because they were males. Male imagery of the era carried all the negatives since they were the front line participants of the occupation while the women are fine.

>>38843016
I don't give reddit nor twitter posters (you)s though. I just remember seeing it posted here and the discussion entering a timeloop for the better part of the week.

>>38843085
wasn't it something about japan and korea?

>>38843085
Yeah but that was because their fanbase is chinese and Japan was in the midst of genociding them when the fashion was in style

>>38841326
>>38842034
Male idols are relatively speaking a tougher sell even in Japan, because both men and women watch female idols, but only women tend to care about male idols no matter what tricks the suits have tried. There are exceptions of course, BTS is probably the most popular idol group in the world after all. But in the end it's pretty much the same thing as with chuubas: a number of Nijimales are able to go toe-to-toe with top Holos in popularity, but the average male vtuber has a harder time of climbing out of 1viewdom than the average female vtuber.

>>38841879
social score of course good citizens give more views, makes perfect sense.

Reminder that each holo is a brand unto themselves

>>38841326
Most of them got their start as the second group of Mouseketeers, which were aimed at teens.

>>38843211
it was the gooks who were mad, the invasion of china was well after taisho died

Guys...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedGNG8zbVg

>>38840983
Found her

>>38841543
wait is not even 1 month

>>38843569
>her

>>38842405
>just look at mori before and after
Unless you mean something else, Mori has always been the same. The only thing that changed is how much her pride allowed her to do whatever she wants without her thinking that she didn't 'earn' the right to do it.

>>38843501

>>38843613
Yes, her. A sexually confused woman is still a her as long as she has a pussy and a womb down there.

Meleco passed Ver. Wonder if they are going to be hit with another cull today.

>>38843817
Meloco's subs aren't getting culled as hard because she's getting more JP fans, which matches better with the stated region of her channel (Japan)

Koyori is such a good kohai!

>>38843808
car has no gender

https://youtu.be/yCDCw7BaB18
>Kuzuha responds to comments about "Pekora syntax". What is this boys?

>>38840983
So uhh how long will anykara hold onto the news of yugo's passing? The longer they stall the worse they will look when it comes out

>>38843774
he means physically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK_f0ClO9Fg
BIG BITHDAY EVENT
prediction?

>>38843817
holy fuck susan really cracking down onto sisters reps uh
>>38843889
sadly pewdiepie channel now only works in 1mln increments, tracking the stats from his move from britain to jp and that heavy non-jp audience woulda been nice.

>>38844026
Sub 8k if no males on screen.

>>38844026
probably like 10k if she gets Luxiem to show up.

>>38843889
great fucking system, youtube

>>38843912
nah

>>38843901
My cute corpo slave wife!

>>38843912
>he said this
>when personally owned vehicles have traditionally been referred to with feminine pronouns, which include cars

>>38843977
Oh. Well it can't be much worse than "she was a little fat before and is little fatter now."
I hope.

>>38844026
Enough for cripple gold, so ~8-12k

>>38844026
I thought you were talking about Ayame for a second. Word "big" misslead me. Didn't expect it to be used so losely.

>>38844113
I only heard that with naval vessels, which transferred over for planes (747 being the queen of the skies and shit).

>>38843298
>bronze

>>38844026
Base 6k ccv
+1k ccv per male on screen
+5k if yugo resurrects
-2k if nina shows up

>>38844137
All Gura has to do is stream and most of these NijiEN cripple golds wouldn't be happening. Gura is letting everybody down.

>>38844174
last night nijifag say that birthday party is always big event anon

>>38843298
Sweeeeeet, now I NEED a taste

>>38844223
Well before Tempiss was a thing the whole point was that HoloEN didn’t even need Gura to win the month.

Is this supposed to be Hololive's most popular singer?

>>38844299
You mean a Holofag setting up an easy grudgepost. Actually, it just might have been you.

>>38844223
Dying, according to chumbuds, I believe. Lately the management has been Irys to cover Gura's timeslot when she isn't around, but the former is also down with presumably Covid so Bae and Fauna are taking that duty today. Just hope that chumbuds will be moving over

>>38844437
You're a sharp one.

>>38844437
are you here on kobo birthday you nijiEN fag get out of control anon

>>38844299
Going through the archive, >>38830060 said a birthday is an event (which it is), not a "BIG EVENT". Let's not put words in other's mouth, anon

>>38844026
0 Cause her building is burning down.

>>38844441
Bae has permanently made Gura's timeslot her new timeslot for awhile now.

>>38844441
That is not going to happen, what will happen is those chumbuds will just leave and grow even more distant from hololive.

>Myth as dead in the water as can be
>Council trying their best to keep the branch alive
>NijiEN debuts 6 new talents
>Already half of them dropping to 2-3k
Jesus christ could you imagine if holoEN actually tried and gave a shit, and cover was not jerking off in the corner doing nothing?

>>38844026
So thats the new meta huh. BIG BDAY CELEBRATIONS WOOOOOAAAH

>>38844625
>and HoloEN management was not jerking off in the corner doing nothing
ftfy

>>38844610
It's dumb too. It should be Mumei and Kronii moving into the 8pm slot and IRyS and Bae should be 10/11pm. This would improve all of their viewership.

>>38844625
wait until the january-february and the traditionally lower views for that period.

>>38844625
>cover doing nothing jerking off in the corner
>me doing nothing jerking off in the corner
WE ARE

Ayame predictions?

>>38844625
I think more collabs with Tempus will solve everything.

>Mahjong tournament with Koyo as MC ft. YAGOO

>>38844585
>Fire alarm
>Somehow she finds a time to tweet all of this
Is she for real?

>>38844625
It so sad that holoen lost both their number 1 and 2. Gura is still around but she might as well not be.

>>38844701
Mumei unironically likes streaming at like 2 am so that's not happening

>>38844625
Jerking off the image/dream of HoloStar succeeding is hard work anon. Unfortunately it’s just a dream for them

>>38844299
>>38844564
oh god the barely comprehensible kobofags are waking up rip comfy hours

>>38844625
hmmmm... it seems like they need more members...
DEBUT STARS EN 2

>>38844625
>>38844681
Uhhhh are you guys forgetting something that happened this year??

>>38844734
It's obvious that they gave up on that idea.

>>38844585
Which of you Holofags did it? Fess up

>>38844734
Now youre talking. But we need an even bigger hype event. And whats bigger than a debut? You see where im going? Thats right!
> STARS EN 2 BABY!
> WITH A GAWR GURA AND CERES FAUNA WATCHALONG
> SPECIAL GUESTS: VSHOJO

>>38844836
But why? The girls were shilling them like Cover wouldn't sign their paycheck if they didn't and then basically nothing.

>>38844882
fan demand

>>38844753
extremely coincidental, I would say it's a dox attempt and she's retarded

>>38844681
There isn't any indication that EN management can override Cover / Holo management's decisions (and they likely can't). If Cover wanted EN3 to come out, they'd have already been around

>>38844742
>>Mahjong tournament with Koyo as MC ft. YAGOO

Sweet

>>38844115
You can literally just open up her Twitter and look dude it’s massively exaggerated. There’s a reason the doxspammer who strangely always pops up when Niji fucks up has like 2 pictures he uses, both of which are months old and 1 he had to stretch in Photoshop.

>>38844742
>Marine, Lui, Pekora
Stacked
>Polka, Mio
Great for this kind of event.
>Koyori as MC
I love this idea.

EN3 is going to usher in a new level of grimposting. Myth was the foundation of the EN box and they let everyone down. Fauna and IRyS still get decent numbers but they arent going to watch anyone else.

>>38844882
In all seriousness? Tempus probably asked them to stop collabing. They probably got enough shits and decided collabing with the girls was hurting them more than help. That's why there are still talks about collabs with IDs, but not EN (not that I know of)

>>38844753
Do you freak out every time a fire alarm goes off? It's always a false alarm

>>38844996
Kiara would be a giant among the third wave.

>>38844734
Shut up before we suspend you again Vesper

>>38844742
if it has males you can bet pekora if gonna be there

>>38844996
they should just take it easy

>>38844186
Back then, maybe. But nowadays people have been increasingly normalizing referring to their cars as she or her.
Which, funnily enough, has been the cause of many relationship issues on record, where the girlfriend/wife thinks that their significant other values their car more than her.

>>38845035
I still think he got suspended because he was asking JPs like Lamy and Miko for collabs.

>>38844882
Maybe someone on the EN side tried to hijack the direction in which things should go, with the main branch only catching wind when Kronii's drama started making noise.

>>38845031
or she might disappear completely

jwu and skipped through the Kobo bd vod and holy fuck it's even worse than I feared, filled with fleshtubers, males and ecelebs and the only holos who called in were the ID girls

>>38845027
I definitly don't tweet in middle of it. That's just stupid.

>>38845021
I still find it suspicious with how Mori and Kronii act now. Both of them always ignored any questions or mention about Tempus, not even liking, retweet, or any sort of interaction on Vesper return

>>38844996
Niji unironically won the EN market by having more chuubas available to stream.

>>38845162
Fucking retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpW8kRdX4KU

>>38845162
Anon she had 2 streams. One with holos and one with ID and fleshstreamers.

>>38845091
I doubt Vesper would ask to collab with someone he can't even talk to considering how reliant he is on zatsus.

>>38845162
She had two birthday streams.

>>38845229
>>38845237
>>38845297
wtf that's even worse so these random clout chasers got their own special stream?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*


Here it goes


>12/12 DAILY TALLY
11,555: Meloco (Nijisanji)
10,018: Discount Vox (Nijisanji)
9,410: Fauna (Hololive)
7,640: Baelz (Hololive)
7,255: Mumei (Hololive)
6,738: Vox (Nijisanji)
6,728: Ver (Nijisanji)
6,466: Selen (Nijisanji)
5,194: Kyo (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Yet another Nijishitty "return" stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 6
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Gura
2x: Mysta, IRyS
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Meloco

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18p: Gura
15p: Mysta, Fauna
10p: IRyS
8p: Hex
6p: Mumei
5p: Selen, Maria, Meloco
4p: Mori, Kronii
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver
1p: Petra, Vox, Shu, Meloco

>>38845277
Lui and Chaama could do a collab in English. He'd have to be a troglodyte to contact any JP but I like the idea.

>>38845318
what a retarded take.

>>38845318
No. More like quarantined off.

>>38845333
NijiEn is unironically going to win the month if Gura doesn’t come back soon

>>38845192
Kronii probably having sex with Vesper while he was on suspension. And act pure now on stream

>>38845333
Nice

>>38845193
>Flooding the market with garbage makes the market better
Nah, they are trash

>>38844585
wow what a coincidence huh

>>38845193
Probably a shitpost, but potentially still true depending on how you look at things, idk what cover was thinking slow walking their EN branch as multiple competitors started muscling into the market. Reminds me of the downfall of Kizuna Ai as the market started changing around her but the company didn't adapt fast enough.

>>38845434
Shit art for a shit vtuber

Green whore won't even get 6k today. She can't even get a 2k waiting room

>>38845333
>no kobo

>>38842611
I mean why do you think Kiara officially dropped Takamori after crying on stream about Calli abandoning her? It's not exactly a rrat and a big reason why we laughed every time Calli pulled "with muh friends card" after she just replaced Kiara with sydsnap.

When did mumei used to usually stream? Now she goes live at like 10pm+

>>38845333
Chinksanji lmaooo

>>38845192
Mori twitter vesper return twitt along with the rest of homo friendly holos
the only one who did nothing was kronii but she was ghosting him for a while before his suspension

>>38845506
No genuine schizo would ever insist on the same point he was proven wrong about every previous time.
You're a faker.

>>38845445
Tempus was EN3 and was meant to further the brand. That is the only way to explain it. Cover unironically bet the entire EN market on the ENStars.

>>38845442
And HoloEn is trash because they gave us Tempiss instead of EN3 anon. I’m tired of defending HoloEn management, maybe shitting on them will make them actually do fucking something.

>>38845569
*retweett

>>38844829
Ah yeah. Iofi 3D.

>>38845569
Weird I never see her retweet, afaik only ame, kiara, and bae retweeted vesper return

>>38845445
HoloEN still dominates the EN market. Niji"EN" has very little mindchair in actual english speaking countries. All of their fans are zhang.

>>38845415
It will take a miracle for HoloEN to win December with most of their branch sick or on hiatus, especially with Luxiem's anniversary looming. Not to mention most of them are usually out between Christmas and New Years. The only top performer streaming right now is Fauna, and her numbers aren't good enough to overcome buff Luxiem and some of the new Nijis with just solo gaming streams.

>>38845569
VESPER SLAPPED KRONII IN FRONT OF YAGOO

>>38845021

Mags string of outside-holo collabs also stopped

>>38845333
What a cutie

>>38845661
>Luxiem's anniversary
Does anybody actually care? Luxiem's numbers have been grim as fuck going on 2 months now.

>>38845445
The Niji way makes sense at a new market. You want to monopolize the market as much as possible by saturating it with your people before the competition can properly establish itself. However, after the saturation point has been reached, every new generation is mostly going to chip away the audience of their predecessors, so any new generations after that should come with breathing space and some kind of hype and/or gimmick to attract new audience, like how HoloX seems to have actually attracted some Nijifans and vtuber-curious who wanted to be there since the beginning.

>>38845445
The only way it makes sense is if someone was puffing smoke up Yagoo's ass about how the EN market is more receptive to males and stills will work FOR SURE this time

WHERE THE FUCK IS YUGO

>>38845596
Nah. Tanigo may have a soft spot for Holostars but he's not deluded enough to think they'd have the potential to be as popular as an all-girls gen, having never produced a male talent that could even be considered a big hitter.

>>38845434
UOOOHHHHH SEGGGG

>>38845661
I know, that’s why Gura’s 13k minimum ccv streams are needed. Other holos aren’t going to do any buff streams nor can they reach 15k easily anymore. Gura IS NEEDED.

>>38845695
Looks like actual trash with bad rigging and a terrible "voice actor" who can barely speak english. She is already whoring herself out to the males by the way.

>>38845445
Its true. Nijisanji and vSHojo is becoming synonymous with vTubers. HololiveEN is quickly becoming a relic of the past

>>38845660
According to various posters earlier today the "smart" strategy for EN branches now is to target English speakers in Asia.

>>38845561
>Calli

>>38845333
>It's already 6-6
>2 out of 3 Holos who won gold this month are MIA
Ohnononono...

>>38845790
Keep seething because your oshi caught covid, irystocrat

>>38845569
Mori has not interacted with Vespers tweet at all.

>>38845627
Man she's so cute. I always feel bad when reminded of the fact that I can't stand watching her for more than a few minutes.

>>38845661
>The only top performer streaming right now is Fauna
yeah no way the ceiling peasant can compete

>>38845835
Maybe you can watch in the corner while she flirts with Hex. You Nijikeks like that kind of thing after all.

>>38844757
It's when her meds she needs to function at school wears off. I know, because I'm the same. My friends prefer to game with me when my ADHD meds run out at night

>>38845318
FUCKING RETARD FAGGOT

Aren’t Luxiems anniversaries all same day? Seems like that’d only be good for 1 gold.

>>38845725
They can still pull in tourists as Mysta proved recently, though fewer than before, and you can bet they'll have multiple "events" for their anniversary. There's even potential for new outfits, if now in December than in early January.

>>38845761
I'm spooning her right now bro.
You wanna talk to her?

>>38845803
Not even shitposting, I do think so. Time will tell, but so far, it looks like Melons is doing quite well without having to compete with most NijiEN girls for audience

>>38845927
>pre-anniversary collab
>anniversary celebration
>post anniversary karaoke
>post anniversary celebration SC reading
>post anniversary RP ASMRs
Just off the top of my head.

>>38845318
>random clout chasers
Around 1/3 of those are bigger than Kobo...

>>38845333
>Mumei was able to hold the line when she was at her peak
>Fauna isn't
oh nyo

>>38845333
Meloco>irys

mumei's gaming streams not being that popular is a drag, she's genuinely good

>>38846066
Fauna isn't even close to her peak.

>>38846050
you are like little baby
watch this
>pre-anniversary collab
>pre-anniversary countdown stream
>anniversary celebration
>post anniversary celebration unwinding pt.1
>post anniversary celebration unwinding pt.2
>post anniversary karaoke
>post anniversary unarchived karaoke
>post anniversary celebration SC reading pt.1
>...
>post anniversary RP ASMRs

>>38845732
Therein lies the problem though, Cover didn't take advantage of the new market and do that. Imagine what would have happened if they had debuted the early JPs as slowly as they did the ENs, they probably would have just wound up as another small or midsized corpo.

>>38846050
>post nut post aniversary after afterparty handcam offcollab on a naked isle (mysta is dead!)

>>38846066
???
Fauna isn't at her peak, either. Just because she's just able to sidestep the gen wide recline while improving her floor, doesn't mean she's also able to improve her ceiling.

>>38846159
I'd watch it

>>38846066
Maybe if she had weekly outfit reveals I could see her being competitive

>>38845445
When council came out, it made sense why it -may- have taken almost a year for a 2nd gen to debut. Logistically, it’s hard finding enough staff in such a short period of time to assist with an English branch. You need English speaking workers who reside in Tokyo who are qualified for these positions that deal with the matters at hand and NO ONE thought English vtubing would blow up in the way it did. It probably caught cover off guard at the time.

But right now? I don’t mean this to shit on cover or make up rrats, but I genuinely think they came under an idea that they’d be sabotaging themselves by expanding further overseas. I imagine a scenario where a Japanese company who works from Japan and deals with Japanese business wouldn’t favor overseas branches being more popular than their own regional branch, as well as having to work with foreign companies and handling foreign business while also having to manage foreign-minded ways of thinking. You’d essentially have to bend the knee to something not native to you, and I don’t think they were ready for that. It sounds like a nightmare to deal with when you consider how much is on their hands anyways and now they have to meet the demands of fans who they don’t even speak the same language as them.

But that also falls on Cover for not being able to assist their English department and equip them enough to handle these matters. And now it’s even worse because they still have to meet these demands except with a torn hamstring and a punctured lung to go with it. It’s fucking stupid and absolutely absurd that it’s gotten to this point

>>38846128
>>38846175
lol

What talent even is there in the EN sphere? The small handful of big ones will never give up their freedom

>>38842387
That's what Vshojo fans seem to believe, seems to be a pretty popular attitude on twitch in general if you're not a passive yesmen they use the "p word" and if it's about a female streamer expect some "i word" too.

>>38846066
Does Fauna have any specialty that can allow her to be a cripple gold contender?
I meant, Mumei and IRyS can pull their karaoke for ~10-14k. Kronii can as well, but she rarely does it. Fauna's ASMR doesn't have that much of a pull and her karaoke streams are even rarer that Kronii's. Without Gura or collab, doesn't Fauna's chance for cripple gold rely greatly on others failing to make 10k mark?

>>38846072
NijiEN fans really enjoy being cucked

>>38846318
>Fauna's ASMR doesn't have that much of a pull
Because her voice isn't that good.

>>38846128
>>38846175
Pretty sure she reached her peak around september-october and started reclining after that

>>38846318
>Does Fauna have any specialty that can allow her to be a cripple gold contender?
Gura collabs and outfit reveals

>>38846333
Hell yeah we are.

>>38846100
I really like Mumei's gaming streams too but they just aren't the type of thing normalfags are gonna give a fuck about. They want LE HECKIN RANDUMB SERIAL KILLER xD and not "autistic girl talks about what she did today and what anime she's watching this season"
It's dumb but whatever, it is what it is

>>38846198
Niji is also a Japanese company, so most of this applies to them too, yet they've been able to debut 26 people since Council. Not saying Cover needed to "accelerate," but they sat on their laurels and that obviously didn't work.

debut buff doko?

>mass debut is go-

Do you really think Yugo is done?

>>38843571
My wife is cute and popular

>>38846255
i mean Bae and Kronii (forma de chuuba) were small time so I don't see why cover couldn't find more people like that

>>38846694
They are changing the VA and it takes time

>>38846564
Flooding the market doesn't count as winning Nijikek.

>>38846697
>more Baes and Kroniis
grim

>>38846639
you should edit Virgil van Dijk as holoEN LOL

>>38846639
1 year without any debuts much better for sure :)

Kiara worried about music overlap, releasing 3 songs this Christmas in close proximity.

>>38846697

Axel and Kobo barely had an internet presence at all and they got in too

>>38846366
>started reclining after that
Yeah, but her recline wasn't quite as bad as the others. Just look at her median from September-November.
>8.7k
>9.5k
>8.2k
And the reason her October's median got that high is because she had a lot of collabs that month.

>>38846639
Yeah tempiss was so great after all.

>>38846318
Fauna's typical numbers are enough for cripple gold a lot of the time, but as everyone has said, she's a high floor low ceiling chuuba and can't win against buff content. If Niji is just doing basic gaming streams Fauna will pretty much always win, except maybe against horror or apparently a JP ESL playing GOI with debut buff.

>>38846921
If this was an average month Fauna could probably hold off Niji. It's just the fact there's a new wave and Luxiem anniversary going on

>>38846817
Kobo is a blatant nepotism hire, benefits of being a single country I guess (not like there’s anything wrong about nepotism hires)
Axel is shit though

>>38845661
Fauna and Mumei will be gone for a week. With Gura and Ina also out, who is left?
> Debuffson
Also gone. Wouldnt get gold even if she was around
> Kiara
Maybe with Holotalk or a JP offcollab
> Mori
I honestly dont know what shes doing. RM stuff i guess
> Kronii
Hahaha. Maybe with a Vesperonii collab
> Bae
No
> Irys
Also no
Nijien will definitely take this month. Embarrassing if they dont. This month is gigabuff for them. What with 2 wave debuts and all

>>38846732
Do you want to use big number for criteria and end up like iluna?

>>38846844
Yes, Fauna has already passed her peak
Thanks for the evidence

Uh, what? How do you have that waiting room and then just fucking stagnate

>>38847120
Maybe someone raided her waiting room?

>>38847120
Does someone raid her waiting room?

>>38847120
Didn't she start late due fire alarm?

>>38847120
>>38847153
>>38847157
Yup.

>>38846998
Cover isn't a black company that forces their chuubas to do a birthday stream while their house is burning down. Cover actually caring about their chuubas is a good thing.

>>38847120
> RELEASE THE MALES

Kek Kiara actually bleed viewers to Fauna. Even in her own timeslot she seems to be the 2nd choice (or 3rd if we count Ina).

>>38846144
Where's the handcam?

>>38847234
She's in SC reading dude

>>38847234
Or you know, she finished playing and started reading superchats, you complete fucking retard

>>38847234
>own timeslot
Anon... It's long past Kiara timeslot. She even started latter than usual.

>>38847234
>Even in her own timeslot
sapling-chama...

>>38847260
>>38847265
Cope, no one cares of your oshi KFPiss

>>38846998
The state of EN is honestly so grim when you list it out like this
>Ina: Dead
>Gura: Dying
>Ame: Also dying
>Kiara: Kiara
>Mori: filtered out everyone and would rather stream with Kson on RM

>Mumei: Streams destress games at 1 AM. Will take a christmas break
>Fauna: Will take a christmas break. Has almost the lowest ceiling in the branch cause her "ugu kawaii" schtick filters normalfags
>Kronii: 4 streams a week. 2 will be indie garbage. 1 will be a FOTM game. 1 will be a SC reading.
>Bae: sporadic scheduling due to also dying
>IRyS: throat hort

>>38847305
seethe egg

>>38847120
NijiEN is culled the worst

>>38847120
>10' to recover from waiting room
CCVID is back!
Well, I was just kidding, but it's funny that no one mentioned CCVID at all when long waiting room recover time is one of the most obvious sign back then.
Guess it kinda tells about NijiEN when the first guesses were "raids"

>>38845616
Lol how new
Management, esp EN, has been shat on since myth debut. If they didn't care then they won't care now. But don't worry your voice has been heard. There will be more of Tempus from now on! Look forward to it!

>>38847339
Just a gentle reminder that any and all chuuba taking xMas off can't be called unicorn friendly

>>38847339
Man I want to shot whoever keep saying "WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT ROSTER SO PLEASE NO EN3". Fucking retard, at this point I wondered if those faggots on leddit even actually watch stream.

>>38847339
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
WHERE THE FUCK IS EN3, NOW NIJIEN IS GOING TO WIN THE MONTH AGAIN FOR FUCKS SAKE
I GIVE UP, JUST HIRE FILIAN ALREADY JESUS CHRIST

>>38847423
fauna will be streaming on Xmas

>>38845660
I wouldn't say "dominate" in the current state of things
sure, they got a ton of shitters but their ceiling and the box are getting closer and closer
back in january their box was 12k PEAK on CN prime time, now they can get outfit reveals that MATCH holoEN's on NA time
and you can't even cope with >ze cull, or >ccvid, ethirya got their under pretty much the same conditions as fauna did

lmao

Milliechama...

>>38847339
More than half the branch is dead or taking a break. Good god Cover. What are you doing.....release the golden gen. The 3rds!

>>38847339
Ten vtubers technically enough for EN market but when everyone either dying or too busy with other things, it's truly not enough

>>38847415
>>38847468
>>38847477
you don’t need to post the same shit 3 times saplings

>>38847451
>Ethyria
40k
>IRyS
92k

Sure thing Nijikek

>>38847525
nijiseethe

>>38847451
>ethirya got their under pretty much the same conditions as fauna did
>1st outfit vs 2nd outfit

>>38847536
>Fauna
>

>>38847339
>Bae dying
What

>>38847536
That wasn't an outfit reveal

>>38847566
bae has been sick for 3 months and refuses to go to a fucking doctor about it

>>38847546
Please don’t use Pekora images to cope, sapling.

>>38847424
Those very same faggots then go on to cheer and hype up the gazillionth Niji wave. Its malicious and stupid that Cover is letting themselves be influenced by these retards

>>38847522
That's why you need a backup plan. The reason why most professional sports teams have a whole fucking roster to replace the team just in case.

>>38847525
t. coping milliecuck

>>38847423
Family is a thing, anon
Not every chuuba will take the day off for that, of course, but everyone who is off on Christmas are guaranteed to be with a SO

>>38847566
She's been kind of sick for a couple of month now, nothing serious but it does hinder her quite a bit
Seems like long term effects of covid or something like that

>>38847305

>>38847654
london

>>38847589
She just listens to her mum or something, because her solution is just to drink warm water every day

>>38847339
Mori has literally never been on stream with Kson. And before you pull out your epic Shitpost Mori is going to America for Christmas to see her family.

>>38847654
That isn't ESL, anon. Go back to lit class

When's the last time the EN girls interacted with the ENstars that wasn't on twitter? I can't remember.

>>38847595
Concession accepted

>>38847423
Is it seanig hours already?

>>38847423
Why do you fags pretend like Western Christmas is the same as JP Christmas?

>>38847735
Mori helping Magni with his art series

What will Fauna's peak be this pokemon stream? 8k?

>>38847735
Mori with Fagni, a month ago. been 0 since then.

>>38847614
Yeah, not having depth is hurting even when their main roster is better than others

>>38847511
They are still baking anon. Let them craft perfection. It'll pay off soon when EN3 arrives to carry the branch out from the murky depths Myth left behind.

>It's become increasingly clear with Ina being dead for 2 months that Kiara has legitimately been going out of her way to end her streams at a certain time so as not to overlap Ina.
>Shes been doing that for close to 2 years
>Meanwhile CouncilRyS just overlap with zero fucks given
Weird. Anyway Fauna vs IRyS shit stirring round 201 incoming in 30 minutes.

>>38847799
At this rate probably yeah. What the fuck is with Youtube though, this rate of climbing where it stagnates then jumps is fucking retarded

>>38847728
>No one cares of your oshi
If you don’t recognise that as ESL it’s because you’re ESL.

>>38847799
It will be her usual 7k floor, if all else.

>>38847536
>>38847546
>it will never happen
>they can't even get 10k solo
>box is barely 12k
>they can't top a gura regular 20k stream
>they can't get over a regular 30k gura karaoke
>they would never get 40k
>they still can't beat a redesign
man, we have come a long way

>>38847829
>Fauna vs IRyS shit stirring round 201 incoming in 30 minutes.
????
Did IRyS put up a reservation in the past half hour? I thought she was sick and watching netflix in bed

Click on one Fillian clip and now my algo is full of the worst of twitch chuubas.

>>38845318
your first mistake was watching kobo

>>38847829
>It's become increasingly clear with Ina being dead for 2 months that Kiara has legitimately been going out of her way to end her streams at a certain time so as not to overlap Ina
She straight up said that she used to stream earlier when Ina was alive not to overlap her

>>38847828
I believe in the 3rds! They will arrive to pull us out of the Grim tides. It has been foretold in the prophecies!

>>38847872
You know most of it are still hold true because there's clearly two fanbase in NijiEN, for female and male. i.e. still no NijiEN female can get 5k without buff.

>>38847883
She looked at this and decided to be "sick" for the day lol

Lui-nee's skits...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcSpuMoJmzA

>>38848083
My guy she cancelled her last stream too, because she was sick. She probably got Covid.

>wake up
>check the archives
that was a lot of seething

>>38848083
Might as well graduate once EN3 drops

>>38848083
>gmt+7
>jakarta
lol

>>38848083
She's probably actually sick. She had a good couple weeks but she's back to her sick or throat hort making her hardly stream.