/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>38566602
Recent clip numbers
>>38506350
>>38506373
>>38506417
>>38506449
>>38506476

Mumei outfit very soon

>EN can only get decent numbers by pandering to JP now
oi im laffin

>>38566602
>>38566627
SEIS HORAS DE SEXO

>>38566602
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>88,166: Mio (Hololive)
>43,999: Subaru (Hololive)
>43,420: Miko (Hololive)
>28,165: Lize (Nijisanji)
>27,406: NeruMero (Indie)
>24,504: NeruMero (Indie)
>20,852: Nene (Hololive)
>19,995: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,646: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>17,249: Suisei (Hololive)
>15,171: Shion (Hololive)
>13,484: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,336: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,384: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>11,088: Minato (Nijisanji)
>10,876: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)

Kobo thread

Will mumei be the first Holo to trip on stage?

>>38566745
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Mio, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Miko, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
226x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
8x: Mio
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

SNOTchads stay winning
Nijikeks keep loosing !!

>Mumei shills Fauna's new outfit to the JP tourists
SNOT BOX FOREVER <3

Mogu Mogu 10M.

SNOT is back, now all we need is for Kronii to revive.

>>38566779
ToT

>>38561711
Well nux collabed with not-magni in the past so it would be easy to reach him and it's true that this jew bragged about insider knowledge in every "Vtuber drama" video he made recently (like 4 of them), also numberfagging about all the money that Cover makes, rrating about Sana implying stuff that even dramatubers never talked about and pushing for corporate Vtubers to unionize kek
I wouldn't be surprised if not-magni planned to do one of his "lessons" about Vtuber corporations or something and that faggot was helping him.

>>38566779
Those eyes look like their glued on her face

>Due to us having a baby
damn, he let nigga Tyrese fuck his polish whore and doesn't aware she's now carrying Tyrese's seed.

>>38566797
first non-Mio 3D barf

>>38566801
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
222x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
33x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
221x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
39x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>38566602
>>38566627
when is yomu going to design a vtuber?

>>38566797
Didn't Luna trip, or maybe fall down in her debut?

The most powerful chuuba

>>38566908
Hot

>>38566954
Damn that's a pretty powerful 2D chuba i have seen, looks almost 3D even

>>38566954
Forget SUUUPEEERRR 3D, this is MEGA 3D

>>38566954
Vshojo status?

>>38566900
Just talk like normal people for fuck sak, western country is fucked up. Everything is about BBC

>>38566954

Why did the fishtuber declined so hard? i remember him being a 4view 2 years ago

>>38566954
Cartoon Miko is slightly less appealing than actual Miko.
WHY DO?!

>>38566945
Luna hurt her neck in a 3D horror collab

>>38567019
Hey that's a yank thing, don't lump me together with them

>>38566954
why do all asian chicks lusting for that commie grifter manlet dick anyway?

Umm.. Can we talk about XSoleil?
You fags always get distracted whenever we talk about the new waves

>>38566852
Faggot keeps covering and throwing shade and misinformation and he wonders why he's blacklisted by the two big corpos. The sluts at vwhorejo even threw him under the bus because they're sick of his ego. The Ren channel strikes he got is just the appetizer, I'm surprised they even allowed it in the first place

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these streamers include
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>38567037
Neckbrace smiling Luna is still one of my favourite images along with that comic of Towa+can+kenzoku

Kronii grabbed 700 people from a Mumei funnel, back to 5k

>>38566954
the irony of fleshbag receiving a vtuber award

>>38567019
Hey that's just America. America is not western culture

>>38567076
What is there to talk about? Honestly

>>38566815
GOATED hololive song

>>38567096
Where's the retard that said Kronii always wins in the previous thread?

>>38567096
4k floor for Kronii right now

>>38567019
BBC cuckoldry is asian thing you retards

>>38567095
>Towa+can+kenzoku
I don't know that one

>>38567076
NijiEN doesn't even care about them(yet), why should we? The dissapointment that was Ilosers was too much

>>38566954
So if a real vtuber won this, would they have to dox themselves to accept the reward in person?

>>38567049
>>38567113
Anyone got that screenshot of the Portugese on /sp/?

>Only Fauna has new outfit
Kek they really abandon Council

holo gold contenders

>8 Shion birthday
>9 RBC new 3D
>11 Fauna new outfit
>13 Ayame birthday
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>9 Hisui 3D debut
>10 XSOLEIL debut
>11 Marika 2022 qualifiers
>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>38567142
Its just the stupid comic where they both reaching for a canned drink, I probably just described it badly. Its a classic.

>>38567162
Numei has an announcement tmrw. I belib

>>38567076
There's nothing to say about until they debut. Then we can all shitpost about them.
Unless someone has more PL information what else is there to talk about?

>>38567076
Have you even bother to check archives, right now none of them are interest, loli is DOA, Vermin guy might be on top of Vox (heh) with his rm asmr 18+, others are meh for me.

>>38567096
It'll be a nice bump to her median

>>38567155
The real question is which EN would accept the offer
Mori is a given and I suspect Kiara would go too but what about the rest?

>>38566954
why is she wearing nothing but a bra and a skirt

>>38567102
Isn't she an actual call-girl on top of that, casted in the role of "technician" by her boyfriend who's the real brain behind this whole project? And twitchfags cry about corpo Vtubers being fake.

>>38567155
No. Just get someone else to receive the award like MrBeast and Speed did.

>>38567076
What should we talk about honestly.
The fact that the loli doing the Gura killer curse RTA by only an hour?
The fact that one of them literally have a Pornhub account?
The fact that again Niji seems to miscasts their characters?

Honestly not much to talk about them right now.

>>38567162
Mumei just announced her new outfit few minutes ago.. Really, not even thread reading

>>38567236
It's modern fashion, you wouldn't get it

>>38567076
We already talked about the pornstar, that was it. Unless he mogs Vox, we wait until then

>>38567158
it's al-andalus now

>>38567076
Dude, if you want to talk about XSoleil then post a screenshot of someone’s debut ccv’s or something and we can talk about it. You don’t need permission.
Seriously, though, I don’t think it’s some sort of embargo on the new NijiEN gen, a lot of people probably legitimately didn’t pay attention to their debuts other than threadwatching. I certainly didn’t. Tbf I don’t watch HoloEN anymore either.

>>38567076
>Umm.. Can we talk about XSoleil?
If you're really enthusiastic about the new wave you wouldn't feel the need to ask for permission

>>38567236
Is call empowering by showing more skin like a whore she is.

>>38566837
Kronii is going to leech off of Fauna tomorrow, we'll see if it sticks. /inf/ is convinced that it'll revive their ship, so Kronii could get some saplings tuning in more often.

>>38567236
It’s called fashion

>>38567162
Is this bait or do you not know that every gen in *every* corpo staggers their outfit reveal announcements for the people who watch more than one vtuber in the gen?

>>38567233
retard

How's the XSoleil song doing?

>>38566925
Isnt he too expensive?

>>38567076
Until they debut there's nothing to talk about that hasn't already been talked about. If you're really desperate maybe bring up some recent tweets they made, see if there's a shift in how they behave (I remember Iluna slowing down on a the horny bait right before debut)

>>38567319
>/inf/ is convinced
T3 Rosemi member streams are more useful

>>38567282 (me)
Ah, case in point. My threadwatching ass assumed they’d already debuted for anon to be making that comment. If they haven’t even debuted yet, then what is there for /#/ to discuss?

>>38567076
I just want Vesper/Tempus to die, don't care about nijis.

>>38567365
We call them xsolul here

>>38567394
Twitter numbers of course!

>>38567319
Don't listen to shipschizos

>>38567282
Wait, they debuted?

>>38567401
keep crying, the tears will magically make your wish come true

>>38567365
569k

>>38566852
>pushing for corporate Vtubers to unionize

>>38567441
No they'll debuts tomorrow.

Old but gold

She might not have beaten gura but it's nice to see mumei somewhat return to form.
Now it's Kronii's turn.

Xsoiled hype are so dead given the state of /#/ right now, i haven't check /nijiEN/ yet, but i wonder how doxxsisters react to the new wave.

Wanna talk about xsolul? Fine.
Look at picrel, and then remember that Iluna had more subs than this only a day after their announcement.

Does someone have the funny graphs/tables for CCV?

>>38567564
So Iluna is such a big flop all subsequent niji gens are gonna feel the impact?

>>38567319
>/inf/ is convinced that it'll revive their ship
if they make any good clips because 99% shipfags are all clip watchers

>>38567564
Meloco if given few editing, she'll looks like Yugo but more tranny.

>>38567564
>Iluna had more subs than this only a day after their announcement
GRIM GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

>>38567564
Who was the pornhub dude?
Asking for a friend of course

>>38567564
The gyaru and the goth girl are the only ones who haven't committed any twitter yab so far right?

>>38567564
Iluna soured the well by how badly they performed

>>38567620
So far

>>38567564
To compare, here's Iluna's subs 1 day before debut.

>>38567615
Doppio

>>38567564
Wait i remember them being higher is Youtube actually culling subs again

>>38567564
Is it true that they're the b-team, the iluna rejects?

>>38567668
>GRIM
That's half their subs.

>>38567683
>Wait i remember them being higher
I am sure you do

>>38567668
oh yeah, i remember the tempus and iluna sub comparing.

>>38567564
culled

>>38567668
>Less than half

>>38567683
Yeah, they were higher, culling happening

>>38567564
I-is there at least one Yuri girl in NijisanjiEN?

>>38567514
Reine I KNEEL

>>38567564
ILUNA unironically killed the hype. I still think their debut numbers should be around the same or higher though.

>culled
What was their peaks after announcement?

>>38567514
kek

>>38567753
Not one of the will have the 80k of Ren

>>38567771
I mean, does anyone have any screenshots at all?

Yugo status?

>>38567730
Yes, I remember they're already at 100k. It's just susan usual cull, i guess.

>>38567593
Maybe the mixed gen ones. I imagine when Iluna was about to debut there was a mix of masochists who actually like that nonsense and skeptics who were willing to give the idea a chance. The problem with any new idea is that if the first version flops, it’ll be what everyone thinks of when a second attempt is made. In theory, there’s no reason that a mixed-gender gen has to be just like Iluna, but that’s the only irl example that most people have heard of. It’s not like Tsunderia’s mixed gen (which I *think* basically consists of everyone pretending it’s smaller than usual and that the males don’t exist) is something most anons are aware of. I didn’t even know Tsunderia had a mixed gen until last week.

>>38567668
WTF, Ilunaflops is a curse

>>38567564
Wait why is the gyaru the least subbed? Why the fuck do NijiEN fans have such shit taste?

>>38567798
in the arms of an angel

>>38567798
Mating pressed somewhere

>>38567620
They already committed twitter yabs?
Seriously?

>>38567668
They will be debuting this saturday, right? They still have two days to catch up.

>>38567168
Who the fuck is hisui?

>>38567798
41%

>>38567668
That Scarle lead though. What a disappointment that was

>>38567620
QRD?

Wew you guys actually started talking about xSoiled

The Nijisanji thread is talking shit again, great ready in case they try to raid.

>>38567564
B-but the Twitter likes and comments say they will do good!

>>38567841
Apparently she’s in NijiJP.

>>38567841
What do you mean you don't know who she is?

>>38567836
None of them so far, the loli does engage in some cringe erp with Sonny, pretty much kill her hype with her shit gaming tastes and also following a dramatuber and turd commie.

>>38567841
Green Chisuga

>>38567868
holoseethe

>>38567841
She's part of selejo that debuted around the same time as Holo gen 5.

>>38567870
>talking shit again
When are they not? They talk shit about themselves

>>38567081
>I'm surprised they even allowed it in the first place

Ren's roommate is one of his friends just like magni, he actually said that was the reason why they make it happen because nux loves to brag about his connections. Sad to say he probably does have some exclusive insider knowledge without knowing the basics about this Vtubers. That's why I keep torturing myself watching his clickbaity content much like with this vshojo drama he might just expose something by accident.

>>38567458
twitter troons were pushing it for the longest time, I wouldn't be surprised if "progressive" type like magni picked this idea and got his pal Vesper on board, it sure is a curious rant anyway:

https://youtu.be/39KLdbjPMoM?t=1243

>>38567841
green selejo ranger

>>38566801
I think Niji can go 14+ gold this month

>>38567868
Ilosers, Tempiss, and now this, what's up with the new gens names sucking?

>>38567564
okay yeah they got culled, see here >>38525966
i think iluna escaped the cull, right?

>>38567960
>I think
That's the moment everything went wrong

>>38567886
I like the few pieces of porn I seen of her

>>38567823
>Why the fuck do women fans have such shit taste?
I don't know, anon. The thought still baffles me to this day.

>>38567841
One of the hated Niji JP

I honestly think NijiEN should avoid debuting mixed gender waves and focus on single gender waves after XSOLEIL

>>38567870
>>38567372
Nigger you're not being smooth

>>38567932
>twitter troons were pushing it
If Cover has any brains left they'll skin and gut every last one that even thinks the word "union".

>>38568015
Gamers is next and it's going to be all male

>>38568015
Why the capitalization?

>>38567564
>Iluna was such a flop that it compromised the future of the whole branch
What an absolute disaster that was, makes even Tempus look like a resounding success.

>>38567868
>>38523228

>>38568022
Take your meds, I'd rather be shot than post in that thread.

>>38568048
Lolisex is a rather comical name

>>38568022
This sounds like something Luca would post

>>38568030
I mean for all we know they might've just suspended one for two weeks. reminder that tempiss have reasons to push for a bigger cut etc. especially when their numbers keep falling.

>>38567932
>4 days ago
>25k views
This faggot fell off, kek.

Kronii and Bae having to wait for their new outfits makes sense since their artists' are or were busy with other stuff.

>>38567855
Is this the momento to talk about blueberry extraordinaire Scarlet Yonagummies?

>>38567969
Correct, iluna didn't get culled. I think the same for Tempus as well.

>>38568129
One of the downsides to having famous papa/mama I guess.

>>38567969
Oh shit big culls are back? I thought this shit was over, iirc ID3, Uproar, Iluna and Tempus didn't have big culls.

>>38568129
or kronii rejecting the new outfit because it show more of her big boobs

>>38568126
he was crying about youtube blacklisting his channel after vshojo drama and haters from nijisanji demonetized multiple videos of his it's quite a sad story.

At this point, NijiEN might as well collect all potential recruits. No wonder Hololive audition stops indefinitely since there is no one left.

>>38568181
Sadly i can imagine that, poor wada

>>38567969
And people will, with a straight face, tell you that nothing is going on with numbers.

>>38568181
Nice rrat, kinda boring

>>38568211
Nothing happened with their numbers

>>38568176
I think I saw fucking Idol Corp get culled too but it was like, only a few thousand at a time since the numbers were smaller.

>>38568200
Am still surprise that none twitter angry mobs bother to dox or harassing him IRL.

>>38567668
>>38567564
>female less sub than men
Did Niji alienate Holo and Vshojo fanbase

>>38568211
Still maintain Youtube is messing with numbers all around

>>38567836
Not on twitter but the cunny follows Hasan the commie streamer on twitch. I don't know how far that info spread though.

>>38568211
They doing fine, might even mog tempiss and council once they debut.

>>38568240
"Manjisanji" is not just a meme

>>38567969
All of the people subbed to them aren't watching streams or videos from them so they're getting culled.

>>38568240
まんさん is a thing you know

>>38568271
What? Council got triple culled but they still had better numbers than these flops

>>38567969
I'm actually suspicious that on top of YT's retarded subs culls, there's some sisters who deliberately unsubbed after finding out they're Ilama's rejects.

>Ame is still the only HoloEN who liked Vesper's comeback tweet

>>38568348
Ame like 'em black.

>>38568202
…What if that was their true purpose in ACCELERATE? Don’t leave all the diamonds in the rough out there, collect them all and let the chaff recline by itself.
I suppose this requires the company not to develop a reputation for mediocrity and for people to stop giving a shit, though. It probably works better when the market’s bigger, like in Japan.

>>38568337
Either way, they couldn't attracts much twittertards to subscribe them, some just look at it and then go away.

>>38568370
>market’s bigger, like in Japan.
Is it bigger in Japan? People would have thought that English would be a bigger market

>>38568176
Gura got culled yesterday so I figured it'd happen. She ticked back up a couple hrs later though.

>>38568370
>Don’t leave all the diamonds in the rough out there
Except they don't do this considering the whole 'sort by highest subs' thing they did for their audition.

I think the auditions for EN3 are a bit harder because there will be people who see all of it and not wanting to do any of that like the concerts and etc

>>38568365
No wonder she shills covers so much

>>38568469
What do you mean? Higher sub counts mean higher the quality right?

>>38568370
NijiEN is losing mindshare against Tempus. I don't think what they are doing is working.

>>38568211
i fucking hate december so much

>>38568370
It didn't work in JP or ID. It's not going to work in EN

>>38568202
>Hololive audition stops indefinitely since there is no one left.
>Hololive dictates if there is anyone left or not
Jesas

>>38568446
English has a larger potential market while Japan has a larger current market. EN has a lot of room that it can grow into, it's just a matter of getting people interested.

>>38568446
In the sense of people in Japan who aren’t weebs will still consider watching vtubers while something being related to anime is still more likely to be an automatic filter. I think one of Nijisanji’s strategies is targeting normies as well as otaku.

>>38568446
you overestimate the amount of weeb population in the west

>>38561642
that would still involve him divulging information about the talents, which the tweet denies.
The Nodoka thing is the only explanation that accounts for
> repeated
> inappropriate behavior (words + actions)
> that don't involve a talent
> and would be cause enough for a suspension (sekuhara in JP terms, but not in the west)

>>38568129
FE Crayon Nigga MC...

>>38568549
I don't think that strategy will work out, you yourself said it, Anime people are a big filter

>>38568448
What Gura and Korone got yesterday is different, that's the "inactive" sub cull which is relatively small and slow. The one that happens with new channels is a different and much bigger and instantaneous cull which, as far as I know, didn't happen for quite some time after HoloX.

>>38568134
Aia has the crown fake latina

I know it's already way past midnight but it's still sad that Kronii only got around 700 funnel from Mumei.

>>38568446
In the same way that India is theoreticallly a market only beaten by China.

>>38568541
Niji is looking at the wrong pool of people judging by the recent flops of Noctyx, Iluna and the new XLOL. You got to remember that Myth wasn't really on the same crowd as any of the Nijis. Council is more in line with the Nijis and they are a failure.

>>38568512
Ironically, the people who do want to do concerts and stuff probably got filtered from applying after seeing how hard it took for EN to do any of the Hololive stuff outside of streaming.

>>38568631
What did you expect? Not everyone can remain awake this late

>>38568653
Ah yes. They want to join Niji and their abundant amount of 3D concerts instead.

>>38568653
Why wouldn't the reapply? Japan is open and Myth has done multiple idol stuff with Council jumping on the idol stuff

>>38568512
It's a weird cross-section of people who enjoys being a regular streamer but not interested in singing/dancing and being an idol versus people who likes singing/dancing but doesn't like or doesn't feel confident about being a streamer.

>tfw even anya start to mogging you
IRys it's time to go full coomer streamer instead of vsinger bullshit

>>38568527
Shit, it makes sense now. Cover debuted Tempus not because they thought Tempus could be as successful as Luxiem…because of course not. Luxiem’s success was for the same reason as Myth’s success, they were the only place for people who wanted to watch males to go.
The point of Tempus is so that when people think of male vtubers, they don’t automatically default to Nijisanji anymore. It could also explain why the collab spam stopped. They heard Mori say shit about including everyone and bonked EN management. Probably something like:
>They’re not *supposed* to feel included. Tempus are supposed to be guests in Hololive’s house, not roommates! We let the girls collab with them so THEY can recline, not make the whole branch recline!
I’m guessing they thought Mori and Kronii and Ame had better judgment than that, which they, well, didn’t.

>>38568721
nta but honestly, I think the people who are just in it for the concerts may have an easier time doing it themselves or with a small corpo. If they want to help build something they can go to holo and build upon what myth and council have done but If they have no interest in that, they may have better luck elsewhere.

>>38568653
And Niji does? Ironically it's worse for them since Luxiem and the early girl gens have a stranglehold of the majority of the Nijien fan base. They get just get the crumbs and will never get as much sponsorships, outfits and 3d except for their debut in Nijifes

>>38568755
Hopefully there's someone who actually see the essence of being a japanese-style idol, and it's alll about watchting them grow from being an amateur to a pro. IRyS didn't have that much streaming experience pre-holo and look at her now, a fucking semen demon.

>>38568809
This is bullshit
But I believe it

>>38568872
Too bad IRyS can't make people confuse her for a more successful person anymore

>>38568809
That sounds retarded but I hope it's what actually happened

>>38568822
And show those off to what? A measly 3view audience at best? We all know that the numbers is what drives one to make 3Ds a goal

>>38568809
This is just a longwinded way for you to try blame Mori for everything.

>>38568796
she is literally contracted to sing all the orisongs on her channel

>>38567528
Kronii already beat that Mumei karaoke

>>38568969
Fat pink wigger bad, try to deny it, you can't

>>38568872
Not to be a shill, but when a certain small corpo debuted their new EN branch, the first thing they did was have everyone release a cover, and one of them even released an original. You can tell Rin’s singing still needs some work, but the instrumentals are excellent. As soon as I heard it, my first thought was,
>Holy shit, they want us to hear how unpolished their singing is. They want us to watch them improve, don’t they? Idol Corp is actually trying to make idols.
Holy shit, if true. Idk, it’s just a rrat still

Why does this thread hate nijisanji?

>>38568809
I kneel if that's true.

>>38568822
>concert
>small corpo
>easier
Nigger, some of them even ask fans to fundraise their 3Ds. Meanwhile, Mori is in her second concert now

>>38568809
>They heard Mori say shit about including everyone and bonked EN management.
It was a believable rrat before this part.

>>38568981
???

>>38569013
You see it all started back in the dark misty days of jp when nijifags shat on holofags because of numbers
Now the boot is on the other foot so holofags are getting some payback

>>38569019
Luxiem can easily fill Beijing Stadium Holokeks

>>38569013
if "we" hate you that much, "we" wouldn't bother to talk or mention about you.

>>38568822
Vrchat/karaoke celebrations are not a concert anon

>>38568822
>I think the people who are just in it for the concerts may have an easier time doing it themselves or with a small corpo
Nigga we're talking about "concert", not community event here.

>>38568989
It’s actually pretty easy I just have to not be Indonesian.

>>38569034
>JP suspended Vesper as a show of dominance to stop the Homo collabs
No one Shinove retired.

miComet bros, we're about to get mog

>>38568957
The options are, join hololive or niji and wait your turn or get into an established small corpo with a more lenient schedule. You either get rare but huge concerts or not as rare but small concerts. It's the drawback of taking the easier road. I don't think it would be optimal but it's an option depending on what the talent wants.

>>38569064
kek

>>38569064
Where is the filled Beijing Stadium then?

>>38569064
>small corpo discussion
>insert Lexiem
?????

>>38569002
here's your silver coin.

>>38569013
Because nijiniggers like >>38569064 keep making nijisanji a target

>>38569040
Had a 16k karaoke the other day

>>38569086
i'm surprised how infrequently uproar releases covers considering they're pretty decent singers

>>38569086

>>38569013
If I hated Nijisanji I wouldn't follow Nijisanji news so much.

>>38568809
>The point of Tempus is so that when people think of male vtubers, they don’t automatically default to Nijisanji anymore.
Cover opening a Spanish or Korean branch would've been equally or maybe more effective

>>38569064
Can Vox fill entire stadium with his cum?

>>38568969
I could have mentioned the Kronii telling everyone “don’t you have female friends” part? But Mori’s comment just happened to be more illustrative. Truth is, if it had just been one girl going full retard, no one would have cared. It was enough of them spamming collabs, enough of them not streaming, and even Tempus watchers getting annoyed by the collabs all working at once.
Mori’s comment just encapsulates the list of stupid assumptions and fundamental misunderstandings that were the root of the problem. Essentially, trying to make “HoloPro” a thing. I’m not really convinced that that was JP’s intention.
To dive a little deeper, I get the feeling that their plan was that *if* the west was really as pro male collabs as Niji seems to think, then they could always do that. And I bet being Japanese, they assumed the ones who would be best at determining that would be the HoloEN members themselves. Except that clearly wasn’t the case.

>>38569145
I assume it's because of money perhaps? That or Fuma being retarded

>>38569086
I thought this was a Suisei collab for a moment.

Just woke up
How is Suisei's new song?

>>38569145
They're borderline 2 view sometimes anon. No one there has Astel numbers on top of gachis who'll do their reps

>>38569135
>the other day
>last month
I know it's afternoon SEA hours but let's not broadcast our ESLness shall we?

>>38569019
I'm saying getting into a small corpo that does some 3d lives is an option. Hololive is infinitely harder to enter than a small corpo or getting your fans to fund a 3d. Getting 3d lives for EN seems more common in Holo than Niji, honestly I don't know if any one in Niji has even done one for the EN branch or not and Vwhores only invite their clout chasing orbiters so that's also a no go.

>>38567593
As a Niji watcher
It's either this or their timing just happened to coincide with massive decline
It actually feels like quality is rock bottom now
Like currently imagine Nijisanji is a delicious bar of chocolate, scored into 6 sections
Now imagine one of its maker suddenly releases a new version except a third of the bar is made of black licorice or solid bile or something, and no you can't have the old version back, it's here to stay
Iluna was just Anycolor making another change to the recipe and now 2/3 of the bar is inedble
(the inedible 2/3 is basically all collabs)
No one's going to want to buy your chocolate since it's a bad deal.

>>38569207
Flopping

>>38569156
>Spanish or Korean branch
Literal minefield of an audience.

>>38569217
>borderline 2 view
That's just Uyu anon the rest seem to be doing... ok-ish for StarsJP standards, no one is Roberu but i don't think StarsJP can have another Roberu

>>38569167
WHAT FUCKING COMMENT?
Mori has literally never made any kind of statement about “Including Tempus”. In fact she specifically went out of her way to tell people not to go to other Holos chat and beg them to collab with Tempus and specifically mentioned holding a separate tournament for Homos and homocollabers completely separate from the HoloEN one.

>>38569207
>shill to some underground idol slut
>some schizo think Suisei doxx herself
>disappointed and leave
Hard flop.

Why do people just wake up when it's already afternoon in SEA? Don't you work or go to school?

>>38569258
NijisanjiKR didnt cause insane amounts of drama with the audience

>>38569207
Huge flop. Maybe Taku can save her?

>>38569258
It depends on the spanish side, spaniards or latin americans?

>>38569286
You know it's morning in euro time right?

>>38569064

>>38568919
kek

>>38569207
Bye bye rainy tier. Pretty normal for a #6 album song with a late MV, will not fail to hit 1m regardless.

>>38569305
latin americans are super weebs. Come on, no one give a shit about Spain

>>38569241
>>38569295
And people unironically said she's a bigger music holo than Mori lol

>>38569217
The assistants bankroll Gan-chan pretty hard sometimes dude, guy makes a strange amount of money compared to the others.

So now that we know for sure western vtubing is dying for big corps which gen do you think will fully graduate first?

>>38569341
>latin americans are super weebs
DBZ and Oliver&Benji don't count anon

>>38569295
JESAS, didn’t Do U do better than that

>>38569207
Slowly catching up to Mumei's shitpost song.

>>38569272
>specifically mentioned holding a separate tournament for Homos and homocollabers completely separate from the HoloEN one.
God hopefully that idea was canned, shit's fucking retarded no matter how much I read it.

>The one deadbeat in the thread who keeps coping

>>38569344
I think they should both have sex with ne

>>38569241
>>38569295
Wasn't she supposed to be a massive mainstream success? Does pandering to JOP normalfags not work anymore?

>>38568809
>The point of Tempus is so that when people think of male vtubers, they don’t automatically default to Nijisanji anymore.
This is correct. You don't want to let your competitor as the only player in a market.

>>38569385
I think you should have sex with me

Veixsoda
Mousexconur

Are vshojo the most cuck fans ever?

>>38569352
I would say Iluna but Scarle is there somehow making Luxiem levels of money

>>38567731
best you'll get is a lesbian/tranny

>>38569416
They aren't ennacucks so no

>>38569352
I'd say Iluna if it weren't for the fact that Nijis rely on Vtubing to survive, whereas the Holo girls can quit and either be fine for a long time or be able to retire from work. Myth would graduate first in that case.

>>38569416
no

>>38569359
DBZ and Saint Seiya are the only good anime

>>38569295
Oh, maybe yotube finally have fixed the kpop looping. That would also explain why all her covers and most of holo covers have a decline in views for the last couple of weeks.

>>38569393
Obviously, Mori’s least popular song, I’m greedy, was specifically made to pander to JOPs. Same goes for covers, Mori’s English covers are some of the most viewed covers in en vtubing while any jp only cover does shit numbers

>>38569233
so... they're following NijiJP's path?

>>38569258
Bruh, who give a fuck about Spainoid, i want my HoloES experiences.

>>38569348
Again, what's the point if they don't get the views for it

>>38569375
Props to the blue fag for having an actual backbone for once and openly rejected Mori's invitation in favor of StarsEN x JP Pokemon tourney.

>>38569453
i hate that this may become true at some point

>>38569458
Iluna is full of brats. They would just move back into their parents home if they graduate if not already there.

>>38569352
>fully
Impossible, but a majority will be from Iluna

>>38569468
Is that why her phony is below 400k per week now?

>>38569086
Is miComet's Animal cover the first duet Animal cover?

Why are Niji fans so volatile? Every time you point out something slightly negative they shit their pants.

>>38569519
NijiEN should hire more hags?

>>38569455
They are beyond ennacucks. There's creampies and prengantes envolved. Ennacucks are still huge cucks though. Letting a wigger call them cucks to their faces and they just smile and agree.

>>38569536
In Hololive? Yes

>>38569241
>>38569295
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I'm Greedy tier

>>38569487
I don't know who's hated and who isn't on the JP side outside of Hajime and Gundou

>>38569501
I’d bet money on him having had a menhera fit after people called him a leech

>>38569541
That's stupid. Ojisans are okay, they hate hag's guts, see Nina

>>38569461
Sorry Enna, you're only a second string whore at best.

>>38569550
Outside Hololive?

>>38569468
Nah Kpop is as bad as ever. The biggest issue is they didn't fix shit. They just made it harder for everyone but the botters.

>>38569541
Sure, i love to hear some virtual karen bitching about her managements on stream non-stop.

>>38569538
The ones left on this board are all women (very emotional!) who will pick fights they're not prepared to take and then run away calling you a numbernigger after being provided with historical facts and statistics

>>38569491
Dunno. For some reason I thought you were talking about having the funds to make them.

>>38569538
They have a persecution complex a mile wide and think they didn't do nothing to get hated by half the board, while at the same time spamming their bullshit in every thread

>>38567855
Wasn't she working on improving herself and building a niche?

>>38569468
lol no, kpop view farming is as strong as ever. the corean government likely has a deal with youtube about it.

>>38569538
Feminism and westoid educations got into them.

>>38569592
Some Vsingers did a cover with 3 of them

>>38569163
The collab started by the way
i still don't know how to use images

>>38569538
Why are Holo fans so volatile? Every time you point out something slightly negative they shit their pants.
Look I can do it too.

>>38569305
>>38569341
https://youtu.be/nwBRWlHkSmw
LATAM is legit a possibility

>>38569241
>>38569295
This is what happens when you collab with males and homos. You get homos number.

>>38569538
ironic

>>38569686
>Botanadas
Call me when it's Sabritas

>>38569672
oh that art is actually pretty cute
shame about the randomized skin, getting mori instead of any of the other girls would probably be enough to make me ragequit

>>38569647
She's still confused about what she wants. She went from a fujosister who plays otome games to flip flopping between lacreatividad and gfe supa baiting. She also STILL freezes when she talks to the homos of NijiEN and can't do collars with her senpais

>>38569672
wut game?

>>38569686
Is that a Dragon ball song?

>>38569757
>fujosister who plays otome games
kek did she play mystic messenger or some shit?

>>38569763
Counter side gacha

>>38569776
It's a corrido cover of the GT opening

>>38569241
>>38569295
Last samurai status?

>>38569695
hoshicucks...

>>38569785
Twisted wonderland

>>38569853
bruh

>>38569810
I like it. Sounds kinda cool

I didn't even know this happened but this is the most apt title.

>>38569853
is that even a fujo game though? I remember bossu used to almost be a TW-exclusive streamer a year ago kek

>>38569889
The jizz stopped the clock...

>>38569019
Vsingers have really easy time funding even bigger lives through that one site if they are anything approaching good

>>38569889
Look at the graph, anon. It's a thing of beauty, kek

>>38569903
It lends itself to be either Fujo or Yume

Why are there people doomposting Suisei's new song? Did she also call it her magnum opus or something?

>>38569013
"hate" is a strong word
I just like shitposting about them since they are what you call "acceptable targets" that I can shit on without feeling bad

>>38569964
Deadbeats doing the usual

>>38569064
> can

>>38569964
cuckbeats need to be copebeats too at the same time. They're also the most holo-anti fanbase in hololive, so pls andastand.

>>38569964
Just your usual deadbeats. It is a three weeks late MV.

>>38569964
Because it's doing horribly for her standard. Suiseifags had it coming for shitting on Mori's songs for weeks

>>38569965
Was more neutral at the start of the year, but 'ALL OUT WAR' and almost daily Sister raids made me despise the Nijikek fanbase.

>>38569964
It's just one samefagging cuckbeat since nobody is biting his bait.

>>38569207
unironically slow and steady growth

>>38569840
She's also have portion of female fanbase too, how much seethe on those lesbians that they being cucked by Taku.

https://youtu.be/T6VEciASilo
https://youtu.be/mUXHJ9iXKbI
Shion and Chloe radio program.

>>38570028
>he hasnt despised nijinigs since the holocaust
Weak

>>38569982
>>38570006
>>38570007
>>38570030
>Everyone shitting on Suisei is a deadbeat
Rent fucking free

>>38569013
Love Niji JP
Love Niji EN first two waves
Hates the fanbase especially Selenposter and Luxiem sister

>>38570016
>shitting on Mori's songs for weeks
No one was doing this, though? If anything, people were shitting on Mori for preemptively calling it ZE MAGNUM OPUS despite the fact that it's performing nowhere close to her best songs.

>>38569086
Nice, another Suisei X Toko collab

>>38570079
Hey, if I had been on /JP/ and knew what had happened, I would've probably been less neutral, but I didn't fall back into 4chan until /vt/ was created. Prior to that, I had long since escaped this hellhole for many years........

Being iofi and ollie is suffering

>>38570104
kek

>>38569935
That's disgusting in many ways.

>>38570134
>OW2
When will they learn

>>38570079
He is probably new, but that doesn't matter since the nijinigs are a constant headache

>>38570081
>Everyone shitting on Mori is a suifag
Free rent fucking

>>38570101
>changing history
They were shitting on I'm Greedy for weeks and then started the "magnum opus" shitpost

>>38570164
>>38570178
Ladies Ladies, you’re both the equivalent of a shaved orangutan

Any chubba watching The Game Awards?

Is it EN vs JP time?

>>38570081
>>38570178
An actual malding cuckbeats KEK

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1600771115860664320?t=bHZ5hXHcBoVI1ili_DX11w&s=19
Its kind of funny how haachama cared about irys's remodel and now fauna's outfit reveal more than she does about any jp outfit or anything like that

>>38570210
Getting fucked by a thirdworlder?

>>38570232
No. Gura and Ame where the only people in Hololive that would watch that garbage

>>38570243
Well she is EN0 afterall

>>38570210
>shaved orangutan
Fuck you, why do you have to remind me of that shit.

>>38570243
She is the EN senpai

>>38570243
She might forget her place in jp sometimes, but she'll never forget her root as EN0
She overlapped mio's outfit a bit like she did with irys but she actually tweeted and watched irys's stream... Don't think she did for mio

>>38570243
That's actually kind of cute I can't lie, now I will be watching the outfit reveal.
I hope she tweets about it like with irys kek

>>38569487
I don't think niji JP is so big on collabs with their genmates, acting as a team with people they've debuted with and such. Niji EN is based on hololive but with dudes and more twitch/e-celebs pretty much what Mori would love holo EN to be, no wonder nijis love her so much.

Anyway mixed gen's don't work at all when your target is audience familiar with hololive, they want girls to collab and be friends with girls not some fujobait faggot that makes you puke so female half of mixed wave is fucked from the start but I'm sure sister don't really love that idea either so in the end this format appeals to nobody.

>>38569344
She is. Especially after Mori started cratering her views by changing her style or shit collabs with Watame.

>>38570243
I think the EN girls are the only ones that treat her like a senpai. She is also responsible for the creation of the branch

>>38570350
Who is your oshi anon?

>>38570134
>panders to indos
>Model that's disgusting to look at

>>38568240
as expected from a mixed wave

>>38570350
Least delusional hoshiyomi

>>38570145
does the price vary between countries?

>>38570373
But enough about Kobo

Now, will nijien member that frequently play counter side like Finana will buy Myth skin on stream?

>>38570243
EN daisenpai I Kneel, not even watame has tweeted about it yet
>>38570351
I kind of agree but also not at the same time, haachama has always stated that she doesn't want to be "treated" as a senpai, but the difference is that she probably doesn't see herself as a jp senpai but does see herself as an EN one so she's more happy about it I guess? I don't really think they treat her as a senpai, they dote on her that's for sure though

>>38570243
She love EN and liked this image

>>38570232
selen i guess
usually if there's a nonvtuber event, selen/pomu/rosemi are the most likely to do a watchalong on the nijien side from what ive seen

>>38570079
I was around for the holocaust, most of the thread was just focused on trying to salvage whatever the fuck they could, organizing archiving threads on other platforms like reddit and in general trying to save all the stuff we had come to enjoy.
it's only much MUCH later that the nijinigger involvement was revealed.

>>38570475
>ISRAEL
BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>38570471
I think they treat her with respect and that's all she really wants as a senpai.

>>38570536
The doompost videos were the best part of that era (because everything else sure wasn't)...

Anons may be more familiar with the Aloe fiasco.

>>38570079
>>38570536
That was all in the past. It's time to let go. Holo and Niji are in good terms now.

>>38570350
Why must people keep bringing down the wrath of Watamage?

>>38570497
I don't watch a lot of Selen but might check her stream out. Thanks!

>>38570626
No

>>38570626
Nah.

>>38570649
Of course you wouldn't fucking seanigger, you live on drama and shitposting.

Numbers if vesper return stream is dwarf fortress

>>38570626
old wounds are still wounds no matter if they heal nanora

>>38570616
early MASS and the news about her leaving was the second biggest heartbreaking event of all my time watching chuubas