/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Don't care. I watched Ai and Nekomiya Hinata back then too and I'm glad that era is gone.

>>38410419
annoying orange had more in common with kizuna ai. what you’re saying proves he’s an innovator in the industry

>>38410419
>le original vtubers were the only authentic ones
>no, you're the pretentious one!

>>38410507
>proves
everyone knew this

>>38410419
All those words and nothing to say. Impressive

>>38410419
>OP: the fag

>>38410419
Wow, trends evolve! Can't believe that!

>>38410419
Based

Livestreaming and its consequences have been a disaster for vtubing

>>38410419
crazy how many words you can string together without putting a single thought or meaning into them

Vtubers have and always will be their peak in recorded video, not livestreams.
>Kizuna AI becomes popular
>She started with recorded video
>Kiryu Coco becomes popular
>She got the most traction with prerecorded Asacoco skits and scripted news segments

>>38411751
>curated content is better than spontaneous content
holy shit what a revelation, you should write that down I think

>>38410419
Aye, nobody's interested in even pretending they're playing a character

>>38411806
You'd be surprised how stupid people are to not realize this, anon.

>>38411806
Yeah, funny how the majority of vtuber viewers is conditioned to love their slop

>>38410419
Uhh. The main Hololive channel has plenty of unfunny scripted skits and fake Japanese tv shows. Which is what Kizuna did.

Vtuber now are just a pale comparative to the golden era vtubers, EOP faggots will never understand this, because they got feed with the inferior product that is called holoEN.

The first Vtuber like Kizuna Ai or the four heavenly kings, even Eilene were trailblazers, people so unique and creative, that they could stand alone and still create a sub culture that stand to this day.

Then Nijisanji appeared which added the streamer part to vtuber that still is strongly associated with vtubers, after nijisanji appeared .Live that added the Idol part to the vtuber streamer concept, that was the silver age, when hololive was still in diapers.

.Live had problems because of some greedy streamers and internal problems, that's when hololive gained momentum, they just captured the audience of .Live but they added the part to pander to foreign audiences, because at the time the local market was dominated by Nijisanji.

Hololive peaked at gen 4, and that was the copper age, when they started to do cabaret fanservice and reading superchats, but because they got so popular, they engraved the idea that a vtuber = streamer + idol + cabaret/host actitude.

Now we have a fucking chimera know as "vtubers" that aren't different from twitch whores, because they distorted the concept of vtubers to adapt to the english audience, all this was the work of hololive.

Now the person behind the avatar, is the same as the vtuber.

Vtuber=streamer, to the point that they aren't different from the regular streamer

>>38413973
ok

>>38413973
You know vtubing is dead when camwhores from NND or Twitch sre recycled. Anything unique to vtubing is reduced to but footnotes at this point.

>>38413973
I can tell how new you are by how little you know about that era.
And yeah, EOP zoomers can't understand the Nippon Glory of Kizuna Ai singing Hej Monica and pandering to try to get a Collab with PewDiePie

>>38410419
>t. never EVER watched luna

So then is being a vtuber according to you "having a studio write scripts for you to act out in prerendered bits"? That's a fucking cartoon rebranded as something else. Kizuna being episodes that get released where she statically talks to a non-live audience and pretends she's interacting with you, is still a cartoon. Live2D didn't catch on instantly, but when it did and as it's improved (it used to look totally lmao at first and looks closer and closer to fluid today), it made what Kizuna was merely pretending to be doing, aping doing, an actual reality. That's why she got left in the dust - her format became fucking obsolete.

It's not her fault or anyone's really, tech caught up and as it turned out people liked being able to actually-talk to the anime girl in real time over a pretend routine. Wow what a surprise. Kizuna did livestreams too, it just wasn't as frequent, she wasn't trying to be stuck in the past but couldn't really move on into the future either.

>/vt/ learns that human language evolves over time

>>38410419
You like to act smart, but the actual predecessor of Vtubing is Hatsune Miku. People looked at her and thought, "What if an actual person could perform while looking like that?" And then afterwards you have Kizuna Ai and the rest.

>>38414362
>youtuber networking with another youtuber
Thanks for proving his point

>>38413973
The real issue is youtube. Ad revenue is super cucked, and your video can be demonetized by any random reason. Considering how many hours it takes to make a vid compared to instantly getting money from streaming, it's no wonder videos died.

>>38410507
annoying orange shops irl faces onto shit, it's literally the inverse of a vtuber

>>38413973
K

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>>38415134
Funny how, no one can refute that anon

>>38410419
i prefer vbijin (v美人)

>>38415297
I did? Hololive has a lot of scripted pre-recorded content. He can just watch that instead.

Are people pretending like 2020 didn't happen? As though it's even a question why the older vtubers stopped putting out content and why cheap home streamers got huge audiences almost overnight.

>>38413973
I like this post, it puts in perspective why some many anons try so hard to differentiate vtubers from avatar streamers for me.
Somebody applying this logic to say, Selen, is still wrong, but I see why would they think they aren't.

>>38410419
probably because in the golden age of vtubing people were trying out new shit? It couldn't stay as a 3d/2d model only when people were experimenting with their VR headset and even going as far as creating a videogame with character creation as an avatar for content. You would've known this if you weren't such a post 2020 vtuber tourist

>>38416520
OP does have a point. Call them whatever you want, but VTubers gave us some kinds of content that actually feel unique to them, and Selen definitely isn't that.

>>38419328
based laughing lizard hater

>>38419421
I don't hate her, I just don't think she's very interesting.
The latest solo stream of hers I watched was the Blender stream, which was something different from her usual content for once. But as far as this thread is concerned, it's not really any different, that stream would have been pretty much the same with or without a VTuber avatar.

>>38411806
streamers are more popular than normal youtubers right now
this really is not as known as you think
or maybe is but people don't give a fuck about it and prefer interactivity

>>38421025
Well my point wasn't a jab at Selen in specific, or even a jab at streamers for that matter, but maybe I should've listed 15 chuubas to avoid that.