/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Tempus was a mistake but can't wait for the new batch of 3views from iSolar

Ollie hate

>>38369230
https://twitter.com/smilebasecafe/status/1597108026208567298
Why is it always Ina, anyways? I didn't realise she had a big JP following

>>38369437
Recent clip numbers
>>38321049
>>38321081
>>38321135
>>38321156
>>38321189

Post your bets: will tempus mog isolar?

>>38369158
kek

*SUPERCHATS*

IRyS: $435,544
Enna: $141,959

*AVERAGE LIVE VIEWERS*

IRyS: 9,534
Enna: 4,854

*AVERAGE VIDEO VIEWS*

IRyS: 141,203
Enna: 97,692

>>38369562
A dead rat could mog isolar

>>38369274
EN3? Sorry Tempus needs 12 more months to stabilize themselves

>>38369405
>I want to use Gura as an example
Gura would never seriously blow up on her viewers and tell them to get good. That's ame's territory. In fact Gura almost never gets serious. That's why people like when she bants
The most important thing if you want to act like that is making sure people don't actually take your bants seriously. Which Ollie didn't do because she was genuinely blowing up

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>108,918: Toya (Nijisanji)
>81,211: Hololive (Hololive)
>48,421: Miko (Hololive)
>38,880: Polka (Hololive)
>36,410: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,961: Marine (Hololive)
>30,006: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,189: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,836: Lize (Nijisanji)
>22,147: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,720: Mito (Nijisanji)
>19,045: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,370: NeruMero (Indie)
>17,536: Gura (Hololive)
>16,504: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,699: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,046: Met (774 inc)
>13,562: Ars (Nijisanji)
>13,089: Mio (Hololive)
>12,926: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,176: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,093: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>12,047: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,714: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,595: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,009: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>10,679: Towa (Hololive)
>10,500: Botan (Hololive)
>10,451: Watame (Hololive)
>10,147: Calli (Hololive)

holo gold contenders

>4 HoloX collab
>6 Mio new costume
>7 Mio debut anniversary
>8 Shion birthday
>13 Ayame birthday
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>4 Marika 2022 lottery
>9 Hisui 3D debut
>11 Marika 2022 qualifiers
>11 or 12 NijiEN wave 7 debut
>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>38369525
Apparently, due to her usual timeslots, some nips like to put her stream on while they prepare for the day or some shit.
Also, Umisea.

>>38369525
This is more about merch selling ability, especially when you are having foreign members in local JP market.
Cover might have the data knowing that Ina sells in Japan, and she's also with the rest of UMISEA

>>38369608
DELET THIS

>>38369603
Not happening this year, try again in June.

>>38369664
MOST
CODDLED
GEN

>>38369667
That's what I meant, anon. Gura and Kobo example is the example on how to deal with those kind of viewers. Banter with them.

>>38369664
>Omega
>having any sway in hololive after the demotion
ruru rumao
the male initiative comes from way higher anon you think omega has enough influence to enable the no streaming over stars event rule? or telling astel its ok to tweet at holomembers outside the approved list.

>>38369429
You've fallen for shitposting, the overhead on debuting and maintaining vtubers is very low after you've finished the models. Nijisanji is making pure profit on every 3 view. They lose nothing by spamming more streamers until the entire market is dead because they will never lose any money on a streamer.

>>38369678
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Miko, Pekora, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
223x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38369667
A-Anonchama, your reading comprehension reps...

>>38369608
>*AVERAGE VIDEO VIEWS*
Now do total video views per month and sub growth per month

>>38369562
I just want to see how many tourists Iluna killed kek

>>38369562
Taking into account the whole gen? No doubt.
Decent chance they get a little "star" that gets better than Tempus' average though since they've reclined into 1-2k shitters, 3k on a really good day.

>>38369608
Can't wait for the tweet tomorrow congratulating her on 50k

>>38369800
This
Nijisanji doesnt care if their livers survive or make any money for themselves in order to live as long as riku and the investors get rich they will debut wave after wave

>Nijisanji is gonna debut the people who were not good enough for Iluna
mein gott

>>38369525
I have to imagine there are backend numbers showing that she moves fuckloads of merch. We already have some idea that's the case based on apparent Omocat, lamp, and Valconne performance. I wonder if that's also the case for stuff like the number of times she's...huh, been sponsored by Sega (3x New Genesis, 2x ProSeka).

>>38369850
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
219x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
32x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
14x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
218x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
38x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion

>>38369922
I feel confident saying the debut numbers will be similar if not larger than iLunar, but after that period NijiEN’s casual (not tourist, but casual) fanbase is gonna be stretched to its limit.

>>38370054
I cant wait for the 3views speedrun

>>38370054
>Cover is gonna debut the people who were not good enough for Council

>>38370108
isolar 100k+

>>38370119
Eh, Council at least hit a good 3/5

>>38370070
>she moves fuckloads of merch
Hey the laundry basket was fucking cool and a lot of people I know don't own proper designated laundry baskets.

>>38370119
>And they will still mog nijien
grim....

>>38370119
Different case retard. iLuna and isolar are a part of same audition period

>>38370119
What makes you think EN hasn't come out yet?
>Nope! Homos are Stars
>If you have a problem with that...
>Ask T-chan then

Imagine tge grudgeposts if isolar succeed kek

>>38370145
You mean 1/5

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 duel wave with Iluna
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>38370054
EN3 never....cover I'm not going to watch your homos, just release more girls already

>>38370119
but that's tempus

>>38370201
Lets thank VamFAG before his Termination
>He has established a firm separation between Girls and Homos

>That anon who theorized that the kson rant being leaked recently despite being said a month ago was a ploy by vshojo to cripple nijisanji since both will have debuts on the same month
Its really weird how some schizo posts actually makes sense now

>>38370196
its ok anon, Im also buying lots of copes

>>38370277
I don't think there's anything anyone can do to make people care about Vshojo debuts.

>>38370277
As a HoloFAG
>Im rooting for you NijiSis!
Take down does filthy VWhores!

>>38370054
Ouch

>>38370196
You said this for every wave anon

>>38370196
i have doubts about that since the cards are stacked against them
>if they are the Iluna rejects then its grim
>if they are the male gamer wave its even more grim

>>38370277
Pretty much no one care about vshojo debut anymore now

>>38370201
You'll get 5 Moris

>literally have to put iluna goods in a blind box set with fucking Hoshikawa and Fuwa just to get sales

Holy fucking yikes

>>38370354
>Debuting in Niji is GRIM.....

>>38370354
The concept of a "gamers" gen in 2022 is fucking retarded when it's practically 80% of chuba content nowadays

>>38370320
i dont think its making them care its more poisoning the competition at this point
that vshojo article that included nijisanji as an idol company would also make sense

>>38370392
Jesas!!!!

>>38369800
Nijiniggers really are the only group who boast about how much money thier company makes as a cope

>>38370379
Just wait for another Akatsuki member

>>38370196
would be funny if they are the iLuna killers

hi, i slept for like 12 hours, any funny shit

>>38370196
Id welcome it

What's new, /#/?

>>38370421
its even more retarded than that. In japan at least they can join some semi big tournaments that allow vtubers while in the west theres no real big tournaments that allow vtubers due to much stricter rules.

>>38370593
>hi, i slept for like 12 hours, any funny shit
Niji are about to debut the Iluna rejects.

>>38370054
Don't forget about gamers

>>38370660
>Its Niji v Vshojo
And its fucking hilarious!

>>38370593
Isolar is coming
while Gamers is gonna debut at Holofes

>>38370403
Oh wtf, it's a blind box set? Eww

>>38370696
>gamers
Thats the shock troop thats gonna be sacrificed during holofes anon

>>38370749
Yep. Literally can't choose what you want. Good luck to anyone going for Elira LMAO

>>38370670
>much stricter rules.
such as?

>>38370403
lol

>>38370696
>get ready for waves
We'll get both iSolar and Gamers

>>38370768
Why are their merch gacha now?

Vtuber companies need to find new ways to be exciting and hype without relying on new gens/waves.

>>38370768
I guess there's the resale market

>>38370693
>>38370722
wow
we might get to see a 2view nijien stream soon

>>38370812
more money

>>38370768
Expect HoloproEN to do this soon. Your voice has been heard.

Speaking of which, what does "iLuna" even mean? What's the "i" for?

>>38370769
player confirmation. due to vtubers being mainstream in japan most people can accept and trust that the person behind the vtuber avatar is the one playing.
in the west they have to confirm to both the officials and the audience that the person behind the avatar is the one playing.
basically you cant play as your vtuber persona in semi big and big tournaments in the west and you can only play as your rm.

>>38370929
le quirky and unique

#1 right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6DLFbn4e4
here's your vox and tempus killer btw

>>38370834
JP can do that, only EN can't.

Is he right? Is Iron mouse just the waiting from for Conner?

>>38370403
Imagine being a Fuwa yume/fujo and you keep getting these NijiEN shitters.

>>38370967
>only one streaming and sub 7k

>>38370834
Well.. other than Large scale events like Concerts. what else?

Guys chill, it's only the polaroids that are random.

>>38370996
My nigga chris only speak FAX.

>>38370952(me)
also im strictly talking about as a corpo vtuber indies who dont hide their identities can actually play like rpr.

Now we need Holo EN3 so we can use that image from Gaim

>>38371019
Conventions

While the new niji debuts will have really bad numbers on the long run, it's still a successful strategy to capture potential viewers that could've gone to Hololive. The nijiEN with its crass peepoo attitude and open VC hangout streams may not be an appealing brand, but offering "types" that Hololive doesn't will attract viewers who will either force themselves to tolerate nijiEN to watch their oshi or just avoid collab streams entirely.

>>38370983
>only the people with access to their companies high end studios can do that
no shit

>>38371019
When's the next big update on HoloEarth? Holofes?

>>38371104
Not if it's an all male gamers gen

Kek, the absolute state of vtuber community outside of Niji and Holo.

>>38370196
I legitimately can't see a single fucking Niji gen succeeding anymore unless they manage to nab people who were waiting for Gen 3. Risotto is pretty talented all things considered and even he flopped.

>>38371104
>it's still a successful strategy to capture potential viewers that could've gone to Hololive
If its anything like Iluna those long term viewers will just come from their own box while the rest ditch them

>>38371152
Fair point, but the solar wave is guaranteed to have some girls in it.

>>38371167
Literally who.

Who is winning gold today?

>>38371167
Who the fuck were the other options

>>38371227
random miko pokemon stream

>>38371104
I mean if they watch Nijien they were never really gonna be long term Hololive audience anon. The recent collabs have show us that if Nijien wants to get the Hololive audience they have to act Holo lite and vice versa.

>>38371233
literally 4 vshojo in 5 options KEK

>>38371167
Vshojo lost to her again? Kek

>>38371233
Vshojo literally keeps losing to that 2-3k ccv shitter every year

>>38371167
Just as expected

>>38371104
but those peepoo audience will never watch hololive though?

>>38371167
Do >we regard her as a VTuber? I don't even see her in this thread's Twitch tally

>>38371043
True, i believe in chris holmes, disguise as iron mouse, disguise as Connor, disguise as chris broad

So any guesses for Isolar?
>100k debut
>2 1-2k ccv
>3 3view ccv

>>38370973
This guy sounds like he eats cigarettes for breakfast.

>>38371212
well judging by iLuna it will be a failed attempt then because people knew what they want with Hololive, even the casual vtuber fans. They can't capture them/make them stay if their strategy is by having bunch of crass girls doing peepeepoopoo jokes with crass males.

>>38371339
She's a fleshstreamer half the time

>>38371312
Risotto is a Z peak

>>38371339
She streams as irl over half the time

>>38371264
>>38371321
Isnt it a youtube award thingie? Why is it twitch whores?

>>38371339
>this thread's Twitch tally
???
Twitchanon died months ago, anon. Have you been in a coma?

>>38371369
>implying casuals watch holoEN

Is there anything similar to iwara out there that's less known

>>38371362
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say one of them blows up in popularity like Selen did. There's no way they'll all be 3views, right?

>>38371427
>Casual vtuber fans

>>38371191
he's a black hole of personality. your "talents" do not matter if you cannot entertain. this is why kyo eclipsed ren despite not having any music skills.

>>38371167
Any malding vshojofag in twitter losing to her for the 2nd time?

>>38371411
nah it was supposedly an independent streamer awards at first that would be like the cannes but for the internet but then got hijacked before the 1st awards ceremony by California/Hollywood types.

>>38371389
And?? A peak is a peak

>>38371475
yes, in the replies
they are saying that IM should've won

Of course it's the tako, kek

>>38371339
Not really but I have no hate for her. She enjoys messing around with the tech and she always makes Vshitshow fags seethe when she beats them in this award every year, lmao.

>>38371411
Apparently you need to pay to sing up to win the award. They coped that you didn’t this year but why not automatically add Holos and Niji’s then?

>>38371389
nah its ok since its more funny that way considering rissoto is sometimes joining his 3view brothers and sisters in the charts

>>38371480
Don't reply to me ever again nijinigger

>>38371501
Top fucking kek

>>38371167
>literally ID level, even with Twitch inflated numbers.
Kek.

>>38371526
>They coped that you didn’t this year
that was a lie it was still pay2nominate but at a lower fee

>>38371256
I don't think that's true. There's the elusive demographic of people who have an interest in japanese media and internet culture, but aren't inside the vtubing bubble yet. They haven't developed a preference. Keep in mind that people discover things through incredibly superficial motivations. They see cute anime, and it's their specific kind of cute anime, so they dig deeper and become vtuber viewers. These people exist because every single person currently watching vtubers belonged to this category once.

>>38371501
Takos wtf is this shit? Go to Fauna instead of Mousey.

>>38371476
>>38371526
Maybe not exposing holo's to these types is a good thing

Is irys at a good part of the game or something why is she still going up?

>>38371167
VSHOJO fucking lost again while paying? jesas

EN3 on the 11th btw

>>38370277
Truly the hero we need but don't deserve

>>38371582
Fauna is absolute dogshit as a replacement to anything
Her voice is fake as fuck and her content is boring drivel.

>>38371501
>vtuber unity
>unity
Is this the most coopted term in existence? Literally used by 2views, twitchwhores, homobeggars, nijinigs to demand holofags give them attention

>>38371618
yes, at the end part of the duke

>>38369525
UMISEA

>>38371362
Absolutely no way they're touching 90k again. The start of NijiEN has fallen.

>>38371553
The holobrony fears the nijichad

>>38371501
>170k active memberships
Huh? Is this still true even months after the subathon?
>VTuber unity
As if this improved VTuber quality and content...

>>38371685
Ina is also boring anon, "comfy" is literally just the nice way of putting it kek

>38371685
Glad to see you too faunaschizo.

>>38371685
You're too late, faunaschizo. Fauna ended her stream hours ago

>>38371578
Thats the thing the main demographic between the two companies are majorly different if you actually go into their respective communities. Most of the people watching nijisanji are the people who are more into streamers with anime avatars while most hololive watchers are anime cgdct hell even most dramatubers mention this when comparing the two. That demographic you are talking about that is not interested in vtubers are also split into this demographic.

>>38371501
>muh subathons
do they not realize these are just glorified "give me money" streams. what's the difference between getting 200k$ in gifted subs in 1 month and some niji shitter who made that much in 1 month a while back, but in superchats

>>38370392
But that’s what I want

>>38371709
The debuts will peak EVEN HIGHER yet they will stabilize below iLuna.

>>38371618
Will the mannequin segment push her to 7k?

>>38371501
the funny thing about what he listed is the fact that those aren't exactly helping her content in any way kek

>>38371723
>>170k active memberships
>Huh? Is this still true even months after the subathon?
hell no she lost more than half of that

>>38371731
Ina isn't boring and actually has talent. She also doesn't fake interest in things just to please her audience.

>>38371709
if theres one thing nijisanji is good at its tourists anon

>>38371731
"comfy" is a nice way to say "you are boring
"soul" is a nice way to say "you have no talent"

>>38371723
Well, those 170k sure didn't stick around

>>38371771
I hope so. It'll be funnier that way.

>>38371247
isn't this miko's off day?

If this was Tempus this would be shilled to death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syTQhIFujSc

>>38371823
>120k debut
>500 ccv after 2 months
Grim..

>>38371578
Yep. It's why Cover not releasing EN3 is such a stupid move because new debuts are the easiest way to pull people into the box and NijiEN has used this method to continue to grow their box.

>>38371845
its tuesday so tomorrow

>>38371821
Do we have a rough estimate of how many memberships majority of the holos have?

>>38371850
wake me when we get Holo ass models put into nikke

>>38371942
Gura's shaking ass...

>>38371709
100k+ debuts. Sub 1k streamers by week 2

>>38371685
If Fauna was a spice she would be flour

just wait, iSolar will be only females and they will go full CGDCT because they saw how hololive fame works

>>38371501
unity doesn't exist, it's cope to try and open the walled garden
every single time 2 unrelated streamers have a collab because >muh unity, it turns into an unwatchable shitfest, proof the vshoujo x nijisanxi x scarra collabs

>>38371873
>NijiEN has used this method to continue to grow their box
But that didnt happen with Iluna though? Or are you talking about their tourist box?

Odds that Hana Flores is in the new Niji wave?

>>38371934
No. You can probably guess based on how many likes and votes they get for membership posts, but that's probably only a portion of the total number. Also, you get 50 custom emotes for 5000 members, so anyone with 50 emotes has over 5000 members

>>38371934
Very rough estimates. Baseline is "thousands" but popular holos are assumed to be past 10k.

As long as this new wave floods Tempiss into irrelevance by mogging their few viewers, i'm satisfied.
Any punch delivered at Yagoo's face after he debuted these faggots is welcome, maybe he learn to never do anything like this again.

>>38371993
>implying thats possible with jump in collabs and open vc
ruru
even in jp most of the nijijp that did that already stopped doing it or reclined really hard

>irys about to not hit another interval by only a few viewers again

>>38371821
Do subathons actually work in the long run? Obviously most of these people would have never come back anyways, but I have to imagine asking your core viewers to throw money at you for a week is a quick way to burn people out.

>>38371993
If they couldn't pull that off with their first 3 waves what makes you think they can pull it off now?

december niji month. gold month for sure

>>38372054
Anon if anything the new waves are just gonna make tempiss shine much brighter especially after they fall below their levels like their Iluna comrades.

>>38372104
It's one of her signatures.

>>38372082
I'll never forget how Vox personally knee capped Ren like right after he debuted and killed all his hype. I'm surprised that isn't talked about more. Actual sabotage.

>>38372135
Kek, maybe they'll put up a fight in the wheelchair tally this month.

>>38372102
It gets you a huge cash influx at once. And you'll get a lot of tourists you can potentially turn into fans. I can see why it's appealing

>>38372142
Because anyone who knowws Ren's pl knows that it wasnt sabotage but just Rissotos clout chasing retardation

>>38370706
ever since the Vwhores showed their hand on nepo hiring, all the indies probably think they have a better chance getting into Holo or Niji than Vwhore. That being said, Niji v Vshojo is amusing. What are they even fighting about? Kson?

the fuck happened

>>38372142
Qrd?

>>38372135
luxiem annis
isolar debuts
lazulight 3d debuts maybe
cripple gold is pretty much niji's to lose

>>38372102
>Do subathons actually work in the long run
No, the majority of subs from subathons are whales gifting out a ton to keep the subathon going. Those tourists never stay and don't provide any long term growth.

However, subathons are really nice for a fat paycheck for a month, lol.

>>38372137
the only reason why tempuss is still getting some viewership is because they are still the shiny new toys
ANY kind of fujo pandering from the new wave will take their spotlight
vesper couldn't have left at a worse time

>>38372190
>getting into Holo
How can they if Cover has no plans for new female gens?

>>38372194
Wasnt yesterday the last day where the stocks were locked?

>>38370768
What's wrong with Elira? I've never seen her outside the debut stream but I never heard anything like a Finana yab from her.

>>38372194
Lockout over. Pumping is done its dumping time

>>38372194
First day initial investors can sell their stock and cash out

>>38372190
>all the indies probably think they have a better chance getting into Holo or Niji than Vwhore
As if it's not apparent already by the hiring of ex-Holo Kson and Miguel el Gato. 1.5 year for Haruka is basically the final nail in the coffin.

>>38372194
Stock Lockout for existing shareholders ended, so they dumped.

>>38371993
that's pretty much impossible dude the males on nijiEN are too aggressive and insert themselves into everything, nijiEN will never be like nijiJP where some talents can have time to breath

>>38372102
>Do subathons actually work in the long run?
They work for maintaining momentum. Shylily did one not too long after debuting as the 'WhaleBae'.

Is 100k the new minimum for Gura VODs?

>>38372235
>>38372237
You think the new wave release is their plan to pump the stocks even by a little?

>>38372232
She's currently in Japan, right?

>>38372232
Nothing's wrong with Elira, that anon's point was that it's a gacha so you might get like, Scarle instead

>>38372199
There was a Vox/Ren collab (I think it was a tierlist). Vox made Ren cancel his POV so the Vox POV was the only one. Then during the stream he almost seemed malicious towards Ren and made him look like a total geek.

>>38372264
for how long? because it will eventually be at 200k, but someone will always cope with that

>>38372022
If there are girls in the wave, maybe

How do we save HoloEN

>>38372264
Seems to be with YouTube's new Live tab UI update. It filters a lot of potential tourists

>>38372264
probably I guess, her last horrible vod was Alice Fiction, it didn't even got 200k

>>38372232
Nothing. It's about the gacha.

>>38372022
If its the Iluna reject wave maybe but if its Gamers then i dont think so unless they are retarded enough to do another yugo

>>38372275
Could be a ploy to soften the blow of potential BIG NUMBERS but it convinced no one to actually hold

>>38370952
That'd make for an interesting handcam stream. Also if they set up vtuber events like Hal, wouldn't they be able to make a pretty big name for themselves in the west? Maybe let the fleshy pros in as coaches or something.

>>38372312
That youtuber who didnt undestand youtubes new UI interface will never be not funny to me.
Youtubes pr in informing and education the people on the new interface was horrible.

>>38372358
Fauna managed to hold off Enna?

>>38372365
I still find it stupid how you can't opt in to the UI change. I don't think I've heard anyone like the new update

>>38372358
Enna>irys

IRyS' viewership is functioning oddly. It keeps going up and down, up and down, up and down.

>>38372264
probably, this were the first sub 300k streams you can find
after that pretty much every VOD is +300k

>>38372389
What's baffling to me is Youtube changes the site's overall design every fucking year but their livestreaming portal still sucks ass.

>>38372264
Minimums are and always will be nothing but pointless bragging. They also depend on length, content, and filter plenty of stuff. She had sub 300ks before while anons were saying she always gets 300k min. Use fucking averages.

>>38372251
Honestly it wouldn't be so bad if Luca didn't exist. Most of the other males can be controlled but Luca is a beast cucking every female NijiEN fanbase.

>>38372404
even her katamari one? dang

>>38372348
>That'd make for an interesting handcam stream
I mean if the company is ok with revealing their face on stream.
> Also if they set up vtuber events like Hal, wouldn't they be able to make a pretty big name for themselves in the west?
They could but its gonna be a very uphill battle and highly unlikely since as ive said vtubing is not that mainstream in the west so theres not gonna be that big of an audience or investment support. And if they actually make one then they also have to defend against bigger tournaments wanting to kneecap and kill them while its still small.

>>38372397
Typical youtube bullshit. Seems like it could be the classic "round number wall" where it struggles to get over 7k but then once it goes over it will shoot up to like 7.5k in a minute. We have seen this many times before. Youtube is fucked man.

>>38372404
Goomba please go back to Micra...

>>38372404
>this were the first sub 300k streams you can find
Anon?

>>38372427
>They also depend on length, content, and filter plenty of stuff
context?
in my /#/?

Another mousey "accident", this time it's really fucking blatant what she's trying to do...

https://youtu.be/t6UWSKfL1R0

>>38370403
Only one of them are gacha, all the rest arent, idk what youre smoking anon
this also isnt new, it has been a thing for years
>>38370812
Now? anon, that has been a thing at least since 2019 and in NijiEN since the beginning

>>38372468
Are this all of her sub 300k vods?

>>38369678
>>38,880: Polka (Hololive)
Did I miss something?

>>38372508
Also this description

>>38372525
comfy totsu

>>38372264
>from 700k
grim

>>38372397
alot of the ENs have dogshit graphs sometimes

>>38372508
She needs to fuck off

>>38372463
Didn't Fauna say they want to revive MC arc? Yet no MC scheduled this week, fucking hell they have no dedication at all

>>38372508
fucking disgusting. I blame mori for this retardation.

>>38372468
The cursed 14....Fifa will probably leave it soon though

>>38372540
and here they are getting rekt again by Codemiko again in an entirely different awards show

>>38372540
>andrew amos
everytime kek

>>38372525
Hotpot with call ins from Miko, Suisei, Matsuri and Koyo. They were all chatting together.

>>38372520
Yes. Notice a pattern: they're all quite short, not allowing for churn to boost up the views. Oh and they all had kinda bad CCV I guess, but that's a given. Last time she broke 25k the VOD fucking shot up to 777k

>>38372546
>CDawg tag
Man, Ironmouse truly is the ultimate leech of vtubing.

>>38371851
>2 months
Try 2 weeks

>>38372571
forgot pic

>>38372540
>Andrew AMos
Ah yes, the "Nijisanji is an idol group" guy

>>38372512
holy shit air that 300 ccv guy got merch kek why anons lied to me about shitters not getting merch?

>>38372588
Yeah Fifa will be fine, it did much better in the first day than many of her recent streams. It will get at least 50k more. Hell, Faith crawled up all the way to 320k.

>>38371808
ILuna killed all the tourists hype

>>38372584
Nigger they're fighting the wither next week

>>38372508
the last roommate yab did insane numbers I guess this is going to be ''the joke'' for now if cover never gets pissed

>>38372635
he's also the guy who made the recent "kson is banned by nijisanji" article

>>38372540
He's saying as if there was anything worth winning in this reward

>>38372540
>>38372597
CodeMiko will keep winning these shows because she's the least anime looking candidate, making her a safe pick for all the anti-weeb normalfags.

>>38372608
I'm genuinely impressed, I thought it will be much more than this.

>>38372635
but I thought thats what you guys say here?

>>38372623
>6k waiting
>10k peak with z
Top kek

>>38372508
>>38372546
that's actually scummy

>>38372693
theres a difference between trying to pivot and being an idol group anon

>>38372693
we're shitposting anon, this guy is being serious about it

>staying till doll part to help her get peak+1 view
cam on iwys... I wanna go to bed...

>>38372584
Gura literally invited herself to Fauna and Kiara's Wither fight on today's stream lol

>>38372508
>using another corpo's assets
saki got fired for this kek

>>38372508
just send it to Covers email

>>38372676
also, as long as niji and hololive don't get included you will undoubtedly get niji/holo fans voting for the non-vshojo option

>>38372623
Where's Fauna

>>38372662
Are they fighting it old school or are they using the nether meta?

>>38372676
That and people legitimately gang up against vshojo cause they don't like them or vtubers. Kinda like all those early 2010 polls /v/ kept rigging to have random characters win against Master Chief/ Kratos/Sonic etc

>>38372584
Nigga literally Gura invited herself to the collab when Kiara was on her chat for the entirety of her stream

>>38372742
This is actually a good point. Actually didn't think about it, lmao

Do you think Cover regretted debuting Tempus?
>Vesper still MIA
>Axel and Altare both sub 1k shitter
>Magni will focus on RM next year
>Their box keep getting smaller

>>38372762
They said they'll either find an isolted area in the overworld or a huge underground cave so that they don't destroy things. They want to fight it naturally while also not decimating the server.

>>38372742
I naturally assume it's all rigged and the votes don't matter.

>>38372738
Thanks to Mori, holoEN will lose outside/vshojo collab perms LET'S GOOOOO

>>38372676
That and some of codemikos relatives (2nd cousin) work in the show so she has a slight advantage

Gura monthly views

>---------------------------------------- HoloEN myth debut
>September 2020 8,425,456
>October 2020 19,685,532
>November 2020 14,070,403
>December 2020 14,348,895
>January 2021 14,123,587
>February 2021 11,844,768
>March 2021 9,633,953
>April 2021 11,000,099
>May 2021 14,596,283
>---------------------------------------- 1st constume (fashion week)
>June 2021 17,710,360
>---------------------------------------- 1st birthday (reflect)
>July 2021 12,907,792
>August 2021 13,464,504
>---------------------------------------- HoloEN Council debut
>September 2021 18,857,247
>---------------------------------------- 1st Myth anniversary
>October 2021 16,360,541
>November 2021 11,306,934
>December 2021 12,497,978
>---------------------------------------- 2nd costume
>January 2022 14,438,400
>February 2022 9,932,960
>March 2022 10,885,913
>April 2022 9,651,853
>May 2022 8,475,753
>June 2022 11,094,866
>----------------------------------------- 2nd birthday
>July 2022 8,263,318
>----------------------------------------- Holostars Tempus debut
>August 2022 8,042,849
>September 2022 8,997,463
>October 8,510,071
>November 5,078,737

>>38372785
Do I think Cover regrets debuting 4 streamers with higher averages than their entire JP branch?

The behavior of the numbers on IRyS' stream is triggering me hard. It's like youtube is doing everything it can to prevent the 7k.

Nijisanji EN get another new waves this week
HoloEN when?

>>38372744
Fauna rarely has fucked up graphs like that anon showed, and when she does its mostly due to switching to SC reading.

>>38372832
Ignore the fact that she streamed significantly less in the later half of this year

>>38372832
Is there correlation of her number of streams?

>>38372785
Yagoo probably sees the EN squad as a huge success for his ego, his pet project is somehow doing worse in japan.

>>38372727
>>38372767
Timestamp

>>38372508
What a retard, losing VWhores perms RTA

>>38372874
>>38372866

>>38372498

>>38372815
It really feels like Mori wants to get herself terminated or something... I mean if she feels "trapped" by being a holo but can't quit due to UMG shit there is only one way out right?

>>38372832
October to november is a HUGE drop each year, why?

>>38372785
fuck no they owned the incels, after all who cares about keeping the hype going

>>38372508
I thought mousey was one of the good ones but she's just another doxfag leech I see

>>38372832
>August 2022-November 2022
>8M and 5M respectively
That's actually quite good considering the amount of stream on those months are on single digit

>>38371501
> vtuber unity
Kek. Kimoi~

>>38372851
When HoloStarsEn 2 finish their training

>>38372832
Another thing to note

June is when a lot of us noticed a drastic change in song views and a lot of us predicted that youtube fucked around with the algo. That is when the numbers start going down to the 8 million range. She probably isn't getting nearly as many passive views on Reflect.

>>38372546
>>38372707
>>38372508
LE UNITY XD WHOLEHOME VTUBER
Fucking hell, gross. What is Cover doing anyway? They need to reign Mori in with this shit.

Sorry, IRyS. 7k is for entertaining Holos

>>38372815
God, I wish. Send it to UMG too, I bet they will be even more willing to enforce the protection of their IP (because yes, it's an UMG contract, Mori is their bitch while it's up).

>>38372912
Her getting terminate will still mean that she cant make music or use her own music for 5 years and get fucked in the ass by UMG.

>Anycolor Inc sub 10k
Just wake up, what happened?

>>38372785
Even 4 sanas would have done something better

>>38372926
did you miss her replying to
>uh oh!
i wouldn't be surprised if she also sent a DM

>>38372887
Just open holodex and see when kiara talk about it on Gura's chat retard. or archive reps

>>38372785
>>38372838
Stars EN as it exists right now is ass, but Cover must think that they can build it over time and by expanding the roster. They've stuck with Stars JP all this time so I don't expect them to give up after just one generation.

>>38372926
>just another doxfag leech
She has always been that the second she called notMori "Calli" for no reason

>>38372912
It's her own fault for signing up to UMG with her Holo account

>>38372979
Stocks are not locked anymore so you can cash out now
New wave is gonna soften the blow maybe

>>38372965
Looks like my cock

>>38372987
Pretty sure that was a free blocklist for Gura.
Why did my oshi have to reply aaaaaaaa

>>38372849
It's the classic "numbers wall" that we have seen so many times before. If 7k gets breached she will shoot up pretty quickly by a couple more hundred.

>>38372958
It's the downside of them letting talents do whatever with their roommates
On the real i think them being so hands off does nothing but encourage leeching or hurt their talents in the long run. You'll never be able to convince me that them letting Laplus, the leader of their brand new gen, go full retard was a good idea

So the EN hierarchy is Gura followed by Fauna followed by IRyS, right?

>>38372926
She instantly tried to leech off Gura RM posting. She is just a leech with people defending her because she is “dying”

>>38372891
>Mori get's herself fired
>debuts in vshojo with a new model

They were working on her for a while now, Gunrun wants another ex-holo and ironwhore already said there will be more debuts.

>>38373005
They're gonna need a Pekora or something in Gen 2, someone with a lot of charisma and meme power.

>>38372912
We get it you’re retarded. But hey I’m sure this time they’ll get rid of the big bad Mori! Termination in 2 weeks for 2 years and counting.

>>38372984
Sana was getting 2k to 4k CCV for her streams and had full collab access with other holos so yes she'd easily bury Tempus.

>>38372887
https://youtu.be/ZMEyYtc7Bzg?t=5254

>>38373069
IRyS has a higher median and average than Fauna

>>38372979
Kek it can't fight off the fall, it's reclining again

7K DORYAAAAA

>>38373069
Gura >>>>>>>> Fauna >>> IRyS >>> Kronii/Mumei >>> the rest of the shitters
Ina would go slightly ahead of fauna if she was still around

>Peak 6,998
RECLINING WHORE!!!
>Peak 7,000
Really good performance specially on such a debuff game

>>38373078
And you’re even stupider than the other guy.

>>38372785
i wonder if they regret Myth? what was stopping them from staying in japan? EN has been nothing but a disaster for their brand image. now their known for having lazy people that don't stream.

>>38373120
She was buffed retard

>>38372965
Thank you for your service

7k DORYAAAAAA

>>38373069
Yep it goes by the level of pureness.

Irys 7k get and still #1

Congrats on 7k in no overlap I guess IRyS

LA+ break
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1599637188873900032

>7k
HOLY SHIT FINALLY

FUCK YOU YOUTUBE

>>38373179
Nowa oji sent the dick pic to her. ...

>>38371167
>All members of Vshojo vs CodeMiko
>BTFO 2nd time

The absolute state of Vshojo
MUH Creative Freedom

>>38373133
Glad you understand anon

>>38373179
Mental health break. Fuck you, La+

>>38373179
>Suffering from mental illness
That's all our oshi's...

>>38373179
>he
>him
Knew there wasn't any femkenzoku.

>>38373179
mental illness kek

>>38373179
>mental illness
Is this because of her RM group?

It's going to be hilarious if IRyS keeps incling and kicks Enna out of cripple podium.

>>38373179
Did she do it

>>38373179
company suspension finally

>>38373166
Fauna taught her how to sustain ccv in long period of time

>>38373144
Ah yes unlike those streaming powerhouses like Shion or Ayame.

So they actually want to help the suicide baiting menhara or is it just a suspension masked as that?

>>38373256
Not happening unfortunately

>>38373256
Mysta and Vox have spicy streams she's gonna get booted along with Fauna

>>38373179
No lapu...

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1599637188873900032?t=z27bpVnFmoe7RK03vM1nyA&s=19
lapuchan...

>>38373179
>tweeted by the official account and not Laplus herself
Must be pretty serious. I hope she is ok. She is legitimately one of the most talented people Cover has ever hired but she just can't seem to get out of her own way. I hope she comes back refreshed ready to take the world by storm.

>>38373231
Start using DeepL, anon.

>>38373279
Kek, "Mental illness"

>>38373179
Is this a soft suspension?

>>38372738
Btw dont send it with the english tab since the staff that checks this shit is clearly on mori's side and will discard it. Use deepl and send it to the jp, you have more chances of them actually doing something

>>38372979
insiders cashing out >>38362121

>>38373179
Unicorn chads, we literally can’t stop winning

>>38372397
So totally normal

>>38373179
La+ really never learnt to stop reading the 5ch threads it seems. But honestly all of this is on her for trying to be a mori and pull off both rm and holo.

>>38372654
I still expected Fifa to do much better than it did. I don't watch the sport but I know it has a lot of fans and it seems like a lot of Gura fans like it.

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1599638650991804416
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

>>38373292
>Mysta
he's still alive?

>>38373322
This is almost as funny as “Hi I’m from 4Chan.”

>>38372508
#EXPOSED

>Vesper's double secret probation ends
>Lapu has a nervous breakdown and goes on an indefinite hiatus
Never a boring week!

>>38373279
Probably actually want to help her, but there's a stigma about just going to the doc yourself. If the company puts you on break because of it, doctors will treat it as a much more 'serious incident' since it's seen as affecting your work, something that's a 'big deal' for Japanese.

>>38373322
also a good way would be to make a post on reddit to let t-chan see it, unless they are the person that reads the english emails as well

>>38373377
She should have played Madden instead of Fifa.

GUYS DOES THIS MEAN GOZARU IS GOOD NOW?

>>38373319
that's a few extra clicks for a shitpost picture when you can just click translate on twitter

>>38373393
Wasn't she just streaming on her rm earlier today?

>>38373317
I'd say that some of the senior girls should reach out to her but she seems too arrogant to take their advice based on her actions so far.

>>38373388
He's finally back yeah

>>38373440
Isn't she close to Fubuki?

Mysta return stream easy 80k global gold.

>>38373439
People were saying she had played multiple games of valorante since she skipped out on the 3D live show thing.

>>38373179
Watch her use this break to save her utaite group kek

>>38373067
Well if they tried to control them more it would be so much harder to get talents with some actual track record and make them stay for more than a year. Also keep in mind that Hololive was the underdog for a long time so they had to compete with better contracts.

>>38373179
Rape correction in Towa's sex dungeons

>>38373415
She was always good, her problem has always been imposter syndrome

>>38373422
I'm a big boy and I copy paste the text from twitter to deepL, which I've bookmarked in JP to EN mode to speed up the process.

>>38373179
She became mentally ill because of Tempus