/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>37792779
surprisingly not as xenophobic as i thought. My oshi in particular really works hard on her eng reps even when she really doesnt need to

>>37792779
Unfortunately not as xenophobic as I thought.

>>37792779
Place sucks, but atleast they have definitively proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that artistic greatness is derived from suffering.

>>37792779
Coco and Fubuki make me feel like they should have kept dropping nukes.

They're still racist af, nuke it again

I need to have sex with Indo women now.

>>37792779
They taught me Japanese women are also disgusting whores just like western women.

>>37792779
It enforces my belief that I do not need to learn Japanese to enjoy Japanese contents.

Recently worked with their military in a training event, biggest shocker was seeing more older soldiers watch vtubers than the younger ones. Saw 3 older japanese officers sitting together watching a chloe stream.

Younger jap soldiers on the other hand mostly didnt know wtf a vtuber was when i showed them. werid amount could recognize steveMRE and demolitionRanch on the spot though

>>37792779
Made me want a Japanese hag wife and I won't stop until I do.

>>37793461
Do they watch fleshtubers? Tiktok/YouTube shorts?

>>37792779
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>>37793461
i did notice that it's millenials who really make up the bulk of the noisy and/or productive vtuber fanbase. (makes sense since most of the popular ones are millenials themselves)

zoomers are a 50/50

>>37792779
it hasn't really changed my opinion on japan at all - nice people, but a shit place to live.

on the other hand I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH SHIRAKAMI FUBUKI SO MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is Vtubing bigger than anime in 2022?

>>37793803
In the west? No.
In Japan? I don't know.

>>37792779 (me)
Realize that Japan legalistic nature does not produce good leaders
Yagoo feels like a puppet within the company
Every manager likes to micromanage talents play to play
Business decision maker don't take advantage on their one-in-a-lifetime peak moment
Try too hard to sell "made in Japan" on EN talents that cost Gura's 2 years of entertainment value
Too reactive on audience rage, it encourages toxic antis
Japanese audience, Japanese business partners, are too easy to be offended

Thinking all about this makes me realize how self-destructing it is. It is a karma that strike Japan itself again and again until it dies.

Their craftmanship makes them a good employee though.
mikorone 24 was made from heart

>>37793731
>>37793652
Yeah, all the younger enlisted were pretty much just into tiktok/youtube shorts and firearm youtube channels, most weeb thing any of the younger guys really talked about was the new gundam and aqua playing apex.

pic related is proof i posted back in /pcg/ when i got back.

>>37793973
>Try too hard to sell "made in Japan" on EN talents that cost Gura's 2 years of entertainment value
Elaborate
>Japanese audience, Japanese business partners, are too easy to be offended
They can't possibly be worse than the hypersensitive, woke English audience.

>>37794019
I'm flabbergasted by the younger generation short attention spans.
Do zoomers and centennial even watch series or movies at all?

>>37793973
>aaa they put my book in the fridge. it's a grave insult! dogeza NOW
paying attention to this is retarded
>fan schizos screeching about talent out of line
having to pay attention to this is literally QA

>>37794026
at 1.5x speed probably
Didnt believe this was a thing myself until i saw it firsthand

>>37793803
hell no. anime made around 25 billion last year, and probably 10x that potentially from untapped markets and piracy.

>>37794797
whoops, was replying to this
>>37794096

>>37792779
It has caused me to seriously want to learn Japanese. Not necessarily for vtubers themselves, but the whole world of content they opened up to me after I started watching them.

I want to hear more japanese music, read good manga and novels, and talk to cool Japanese people. And also, yeah I'd like to be able to watch their streams too.

Anyways I've memorized hiragana so far and know only like 4 words but it's a start. I'll get there one day

>>37792836
>>37792868
This. Before vtubers became popular, I would always search for streams or videos of Japanese people playing western games, simply because I wanted to see their reactions, but they were hard to find on YouTube and I thought it was because the Japanese didn't give a shit for western games. But now that I'm seeing their reactions, it turns out they're not so different than I was when I played them for the first time, and I want to see more. A while back, Korone was thinking about streaming Halo: Combat Evolved, and if it does happen, I'll watch it. Same goes for any other JP chuuba that plays other western games.

>>37792779
It made me go from ambivalent to slight dislike.

>>37793973 (also me)
I think I am gonna stop watching vtber anymore
Also I am dumping my dakis, doujins, figures, and any anime collection now
Thank you Japan for providing many entertainment for me in the past
But I hate you now

>>37793461
>werid amount could recognize steveMRE and demolitionRanch on the spot though
Nice

It makes me sadder in the realization that I don't have a japanese wife who shares my hobbies and interests.

>>37795680
Jap wife rank among the worst tho

>>37795680
>>37795861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N3G7XfO09o
They unfortunately have a serious cheating problem.

>>37792779
vtubers indirectly taught me that japan is probably the worst 1st world country to live in.

>>37796081
Really, all it shows is that Japanese wives are great wives but the younger ones are the cock hungry ones (and for some reason only aim the married men)
I feel bad for the pregnant Japanese women who got cheated on though

>>37796624
>I feel bad for the pregnant Japanese women who got cheated on though
Agreed. It's super fucked up.

>>37796624
>and for some reason only aim the married men
Most woman aim for man with wives/lover tho, they know by instinct those guy got something worth keeping around

>>37792836
Japanese xenophobia seems to be more out of ignorance than malice compared to xenophobia in most places. There's some misunderstandings on their part that are super baffling, like a lot of Japanese vtubers always feel like they don't really get that their western viewers aren't your average westerners rather than absolute weebs.

>>37796751
>more out of ignorance than malice compared to xenophobia in most places
kek what kind of delusion is this

>>37796624

I was about to say the same thing. Japanese women are performing their duties as diligent wives who are married to man whores who are way worse than a female whore because they start cheating on their wives when they are infertile and countinue to do so even after someone has to take care of the kid

>>37796497
It has the worst people to be friend with
You never know when will a peko betrays another miko

>>37793973
>>37796751
Japan is very "primitive" in a way, and it shows. Their websites look like they came from 2006, and they haven't managed to digitalize most of their society documents and papers. They're still using fax and envelope mail for communication. Their understanding of academia is still 20 years behind, and most of their economy is dependent on outside countries, creating little innovation.

>>37796853
Not saying that malice isn't there, just that the ignorance part is overpowered.

>>37792836
Yeah they are. Your problem is that you think of it in terms of North American or British trailer park racism when in reality is more like rich cul de sac racism, where nobody generally bothers to tell you they're better than you because to them it's so obvious that it doesn't need to be stated. So they'll smile, say you're one of the good ones, and everything's fine-- as long as you're out of there by sundown.

>>37796892
There is no such thing as man whores, the word whore is something only applicable to women.
If a man ever cheats on his woman, it's only for status and power, he doesn't really love the woman and in the end is only loyal to that particularly girl whereas for a woman, if they cheat on their husband its because they are looking for another lover and truly doesn't care about the man because it's the man who is providing everything for a woman's comfort, it's the man who has to go out in the world and earn money for a family and the children and to raise a family. And because the fact that unlike men, women gets emotionally attached to the man she is having sex with, woman who are not virgins are looked down upon.
This is why you should only look for a virgin woman as your wife because she will always remember her first love no matter what happens

>>37792779
It doesn't affect my opinion on Japan
It changed my opinion on China instead

>>37797440
I didn't know people followed Andrew Tate(now Abu Tate) unironically.
I don't care if it's a man cheating or a woman cheating, cheating as a concept in itself is a taboo

>>37797440
Had no idea people still follow Andrew Tate unironically.
It doesn't matter who cheats on a relationship/marriage, cheating is cheating and regardless of the gender, whoever cheats on their partner should be held responsible for that instead of only woman being held responsible, it's basic common sense my friend. And also I don't really fucking understand from which country are you from because even the third world country that I live in, both men and women have to work and provide for the household and that is so that it doesn't only fall on the shoulders of the man to help for his family financially.
And I really don't fucking understand that last point you made because of you yourself aren't even a virgin, why do you expect the person infront of you to be like that??
There is a saying that you get what you deserve one way or the other

>>37792779
I was already a weeaboo before and I'm even more of a weeaboo now.

>>37792779
That they did deserve the nukes and should be nuke again but by china this time since the us is nothing but the gay capital of the world now

>>37797440
>There is no such thing as man whores
Sure grandpa

>>37797440
>There is no such thing as man whores
What about male prostitutes?

>>37792779
I wanna impregnate a japanese hag

It's the ultimate slave country. They are objectively one of the most intelligent nations in the world. Capable of doing tasks at above competent levels and maybe even improving the operation of said task or product. And yet, they have the critical thinking abilities of a dog. They really don't do anything new. They will do things they know are stupid, contradictory, or pointless because of "societal stability". Even if it bankrupts a major city. Any single person who shows any modicum of ingenuity or critical thinking is immediately beaten, bullied, and ignored until they are mush or kill themselves.
It was the last hololive concert that really cemented this to me. 10s of thousands of them gathered for the biggest extravagant show hololive has produced. With light shows, pyrotechnics, and all the widgets and gadgets. All masked. All quiet. Yet gathered there shoulder to shoulder. The biggest, most populous, oxymoron I've ever seen. It also felt worse because the scene I saw and remember. It was the show in which kiara's dream of finally becoming a big idol performing in front of a full stadium of people. After her traveling to japan in her teens. Doing shit work that involved only she knows about. Finally on stage. Her singing, fire spewing from the stage. The crowd not cheering, not singing along, not yelling for her. Just waving their little glow sticks. Watching it felt very cathartic.

>>37799533
We get it, you're a fucking weeb

>>37793461
>werid amount could recognize steveMRE and demolitionRanch on the spot though
Aruran....

>>37792779
Pretty much 0
However it actually changed my opinion quite a bit on women mostly that I now know they are capable of being funny, have thought processes on things that aren't related to social domination, and that there are genuine female autismos

>>37792779
Realizing Japan is the last bastion against wokeism.

It unironically made me more interested in Japan, and japanese culture.

i was already a weeaboo but vtubers convinced me to finally start actually learning jp and now i unironically think japan is the greatest country on earth

>>37800273
Meh, Japan is mega PC but just with a different set of taboos.

>>37800273
wokeism is a cancer, so running only buys you time. you've got to do everything you can to clean it up where you live.

It occurred to me recently how Japanese internet once had this massive influence on Western internet, and how that influence basically died out in the 2010s, displaced by Korean Wave shit. 2011 had Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, 2012 had Gangam Style - I think that was the exact moment.

Now I think Japanese vtubers have helped to bridge that gap again, which is nice.

>>37801928
That's some food for thought right there.

>>37792779
>How does vtuber change your opinion on Japan?
no

>>37800273
Japanese people whine about having sexy anime girls on advertisements all the time...

They are all mentally ill

>>37792779
not really, i learned about their shit some time ago while living there for a few years, nice products shit society, osaka is not that bad but there is still some shit, kyoto is the worst by far.

>>37792779
Makes me wish they got nuked twice

>>37792868
>>37795494
>>37792836
>im an impressionable reddit nigger who swallows everything reddit niggers say

kek pathetic and chinky as shit.

>>37792779
I realised the Japanese, like most island people, are naturally very funny.

>>37811542
anon, i've got some great news!

>>37813160
Based Kim

>>37792779
I don't think they did
But it made me hate Korea

I've actually started to hate the Japanese more, but not for the reason you'll probably assume.
My oshi gets constantly harassed by extremely petty, retarded, vindictive subhuman antis who say some of the most retarded and consistently passive aggressive shit I've ever seen. Antis talk to people the same way a teacher would talk to a disobedient child, and it's extremely maddening to read.
The fact that a lot of these schizos harass girls who just want to play video games while pretending to be anime girls genuinely boggles the mind.

Reinforces my belief that Japanese culture encourages people to repress their emotions/desires, and then seek forms of escapism to cope.

>>37792779
Vtubing has only made me hate 3rd world faggots even more

>Poor
>Genuinely surprised about food prices difference between Latam and Japan
>Displaced(Fukushima)
>Shit tier internet service
>Does her latam reps: surprised that Mexico isn't a dessert like in the movies, surprised that south America isn't a massive jungle
>Surprised that Anime is so popular in south America
>Senpai got surprised that houses were so big yet cheap
>Differences making friends
Generally just watch her collab with Reimu

>>37792779
It makes me think a lot less of them. Americans are pathetic and fat but what happened to the samurai spirit? Why are they watching girls stream video games when they should he perfecting bushido?

>>37792779
Nothing changed for me since I had always been a weeb

>>37816786
>shills chuuba in unrelated thread without giving a name or sharing a link

>>37796624
You will twist anything to make it fit your celibate delusions

>>37792779
Not much changed. Still believe cuteness made in Japan is superior

>>37792779
Changed nothing. I already knew that Japan is a land of overachievers alongside menheras, living a culture of work worship but forever longing to riot and break free.

If anything, it showed me how weak the rest of the world are compared to Japan. There are like 190+ other countries in this world and none of them could produce VTubers anywhere near the quality of Japanese VTubers.

>>37792836
Same, while I still am racist and refuse to change, the only two vtubers whose streams I can bare to watch are Japanese

>>37792779
I realized that they're about to get niggified just like the US probably in 5-10 years time, so I no longer want to go to Japan. Also, young Japanese women are mega-whores even by western standards, but their hags are better. Young girls will be actual prostitutes and it's considered acceptable "as long as my boyfriend doesn't know about it, tee hee~!"
In a way, I'm kind of glad, because I'm no longer a full blown weeb, just someone who enjoys some aspects of their pop culture.

>>37792779
Why would vtubing ever influence my opinion of Japan

>>37792779
They made go from "oh i don't wanna live there, it seems too depressing" into a card carrying weeaboo

>>37795518
What's your native language? Where are you from, anon?

Vtubers just made me see that Japan is overrated.
Seeing HoloEN get fucked because they're not Japanese/the main branch really rubbed me the wrong way.
Dogfuckers from /hlg/ are also retarded, because Japanese women are clearly just as fake as western women.
Hell, I would argue that HoloEN is more genuine than HoloJP to their fans, even if they do still fake it.
Of Japan though:
I have no interest in learning their language.
I have no interest in going there on holiday.
Indonesia seems more interesting to me as a country.

>>37830232
>Indonesia seems more interesting to me as a country.
Embarrassing, mindbroken.

>>37830232
To add to this:
Japanese xenophobia and racism is based but it only benefits you if you're Japanese, which means I have no reason to embrace their culture.
Statistically, I'm better off learning Chinese

>>37830448
>I'm better off learning Chinese
top lol

>>37830448
>Statistically, I'm better off learning Chinese
Embarrassing, mindbroken. He keeps acting retarded kek.

>>37830448
Japs were swinging swords around when the rest of the world had guns. Where they got their superiority complex from Ill never know

This is my impression of Japan. Is it accurate?
>tokyo
>konbini
>lots of people
>tiny apartments
>trains
>sweltering summers
>snowy winters
>enforced homogeny
>fun schooling
>gruelling school exams
>gruelling university
>life dedication to your job after university
>aging population, aging workforce
>elderly live with their offspring
>elderly cling to their jobs long past the point they are useful, literally sleeping through meetings
>retarded business rules
>long working hours
>salaryman drinking culture
>fetishized high school girls
>shinto traditions like visiting a shrine on New Years'
>cute mascots everywhere and for everything
>fake opinions in public
>most young Japanese do understand some English
>in the countryside you get poverty, bug infested houses, incest and molestation

>>37830738
>>37830779
I said statistically, you retards. From a pure numbers point of view, Chinese gets your further.
Unfortunately the oppressive Chinese government, rude and barbaric Chinese people, and pollution all make China an unattractive place.

>>37792779
Before vtubers I felt pretty neutral towards Japan.
After vtubers I hate Japan.

>>37792779
It didn't. Cute girls, nice place, shitty people.

>>37792779
It hasn't changed my opinion on Japan but vtubers have changed my opinion on whores. Now I understand that if you take an actual whore from...hmm lets call it a shitty porn career and make her act like an anime girl and play videogames for money instead she will be a lot more loyal. It also helps if she is a hag. Thank you Yagoo-sama I will use this gift of knowledge wisely.

>>37792779
Didn't really affect it at all. I never had a super rosy idea of Japan. It came off as a place that was pretty to visit but I didn't have much desire to live there. When I went there for vacation, that confirmed it. Once you get under the admittedly very pretty floorboards, Japan is rotting at the foundation like every other developed nation.

>>37793782
that is the fakest butt. learn to draw.

>>37796081
nobita is a bit of a westcuck.
i forgot if it's him or some other guy but one of the J-YouTubers who does English really hates his country.

>>37792779
Vtuber change my opinion on Japan
in that anime is the last of the animate life human beings on Earth. All the the rest are severely demoralized normies and phoneheads now, that even their best attempts at memes are all normie memes- folded unevenly, and not prepared to the highest degree of culinary excellence in memes.
These animate life anime people overlay into a self reenforcing phalanx sort of safety net, and their society goes far as influence of functioning humanity unmatched on the term of sheer utter virulence, replacing corporate world leaders and politicians alike by utilizing truth patterns in nature to the point of Cryptic Ancient inconvenient truth in the compatible unbiased truthful person, absolutely.
This raises up Japan out of globalism, as they and the USA alone are to easily take the whole world, especially on the internet.
I predict that the Japanese Shinto will hold the true of the 100 of the march of Christendom throughout world history as Reimu Hakurei, hilariously.

>>37792779
Japan seem like a very peaceful but also a really boring place to live.

>>37796942
>Their understanding of academia is still 20 years behind,
thank christ!
do you really think academia in the west right now was an upgrade?
it is more heavily politically indoctrinated than the 1950's
huge bias, fake facts everywhere.

>>37818677
>women can do no wrong

>>37801928
>>37806175
so, what have you been doing?

>>37831596
I think we've got a chuuni JOP here

>>37831632
Peaceful and boring is great for people who live in shitholes where bad things are happening all of the time.

>>37830833
they had guns in 1545, dumb shit.
watch less Hollywood.

>>37792779
It didn't really change it at all. I already liked Japan and Japanese people before I started watching vtubers, and I plan to spend at least part of my thirties there.
I've got a few penpals over there and it seems like I would probably like it over there more than my home country, the US. I won't exactly be devastated if I don't like it over there enough to stay, but I suspect that I probably will end up staying once I get there.

>>37830992
the countryside would sound cool if we got rid of bug infestations and molestation.
being rich and moral is overrated.

>>37831596
>phoneheads
I like you anon.

I think you cry out as you receive the dude claw of the Gentile Americans.
>>37831787

>>37832043
What's a dude claw?

>>37832087

>>37831771
irl i'm helping some friends create non-woke content. and also making sure to teach my nephews how to Notice things.
in my free, shitposting time i bully trannies on the internet.
what have you been doing, anon?

>>37831496
you're gay

>>37800273
Japan is a hilariously politically correct country, they just are politically correct about different things than the west is.

>>37792779
I used to think Japanese education was good, then I met this retard...

>>37831578
Nah, Nobita genuinely loves his country, he just has the balls to ask "why do we do X when it's inefficient, solves nothing, and basically is only justified on the grounds that it was always done that way?"
Traditions aren't supposed to be good simply for the sake that they're traditions, they're supposed to actually fulfill an important purpose.

>>37832470
Asian countries have always had the problem that their education teaches you to memorize shit for tests but not actually understand why the things you memorize are important.

>>37832350
>bully trannies
I think trannies are a sad existence. They're nasty people but it's just incel autists/spergs/schizophrenics who found a manipulative group who groomed them by providing them with attention and reassurance that they weren't getting anywhere else.
HRT is devastating the nerd community like opium did to the Chinese.
We're actually losing incredibly skilled programmers and engineers.
What we need to do is offer them amnesty on the condition that they detransition.

>>37796081
Doesn't the work culture there also feed into the cheating problem

I love brown girls now.

>>37832721
It sure as shit doesn't help.

>>37831336
Washed up porn stars don't really have a lot of career options, so naturally they're very grateful and loyal to whoever offers them something. Ironically an ex porn star might make for a very loyal wife.

>>37832676
i agree that they've been taken advantage of and manipulated into self-destructive behavior. but at the end of the day they're still men, and men do not grow through being coddled. sometimes, in order to change, you've gotta hit rock-bottom and decide you've just had enough.
i've also managed to convince a few that HRT is actually really dangerous, and to reconsider. you gotta read the situation and bully appropriately.

>>37796687
I mean, it makes sense. Someone else has already done the vetting.

>>37832970
Fair

>>37801928
I live in a somewhat fascist ethnostate that surprisingly is seen in good eyes by the white wokes just because we're not white.
It'll be too late when they notice.

>>37833053
You're Chinese?

>>37832639
That's barbaric. Common Core, the federal government public education standard in the USA is perhaps even worse. Imported directly from the U.S.S.R. for conscription grunt molding purposes.
"Deliberate Dumbing Down".
The internet will make it a thing of the past with precision never before seen.

>>37796687
Most people forget that harems were voluntary and women also wanted to share the same man

>>37792779
This is a board for vtuber fans. You are asking otaku

>>37833088
No, but my country is on good terms with them.

>>37833234
What country?

>>37832966
Yup! You don't hear girls like Miko saying foolish things like better yourself or don't you have female friends. They know how bad things can get and are happy to be making money from lonely men without fucking them.

I want to fuck a vtuber

>>37833053
if you currently have an advantage over the wokes in your country, then now's the time to push things as far as you can. being complacent will only make things more difficult later on.

>>37833393
Are you hinting THAT forbidden knowledge?
She has a very nice butt

>>37833457
It is very cute

>>37833442
>push things as far as you can
Retard, people only know how to be woke or fascist. No middle ground because critical thinking is nonexistent. You're just going to stumble into fascism during your quest to avoid fascism.

>>37795494
Korone's Battle for Bikini Bottom stream made me really happy for some reason. There's just something so wonderful about a woman from the other side of the world reacting to characters that I grew up with, especially since she's clearly a fan herself. It was the first time I was able to see a vtuber as someone more than a character on a screen.

>>37792779
i used to think i can save a menhera and they're loveable

>>37792779
permissions sucks

>>37833544
i don't really want to derail the thread, so this is the last i'll post about it.
but there's no such thing as a "perfect" system of governance. there's only the "least bad". and any system tainted by wokeism is worse than the same system untainted. therefore any direction that moves away from, or resists, wokeism is an improvement.

>>37792779
My >tfw no jap gf became >TFW NO JAP GF

>>37833523
>>37833457
Not her, the video was leaked and the girl in it sounded nothing like her.

>>37835158
this

>>37830065
Hong Kong Cantonese

Japanese girls are the cutest and sexiest race on earth

Is better

>>37831596
I enjoy posts like these

>>37836415
Why

>>37836415
I feels bad for Korea that got sandwiched by 2 great powers
The flag is peak SOVL
Their players are competent in every game
but we are talking about japan

>>37836415
>a country full of deranged feminazis with fake plastic faces
>better

2 nukes weren't enough

>>37792779
Nothing changed really

>>37792779
I never had a completely rosy perception of Japan but realizing that I would never fit in if I were to move there was depressing.

>>37840514
this