/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Isn't she going to japan right now?

>>37737027
Singapore. With Mori watame and someone else

>>37737105
Axel

>>37736908
So much work wasted into this garbage
Get a life

what happens when the line crosses 0?

>>37737202
Mass suicide.

>>37737216
Good. If that many people are obsessed over a vtuber that this is a realistic fear if she graduates, then they don’t deserve to live. Their continued existence would be an inconvenience to the rest of us who can just move on and switch oshis when the vtubers we watch stop streaming.

I gave up on these hoes months ago just watch Mike Matei.

>>37737027
Yes

Why don't chumbuds just watch someone else?
Not like gura was ever a particulary fun streamer

>>37736908
kys dog fucker

>>37737569
>Why don't chumbuds just watch someone else?
>Not like gura was ever a particulary fun streamer
Humour us. Who's more fun?

>>37738478
Mumei

>>37738478
Forsen.

>>37738498
>Mumei
Though I will give her credit for breaking 10k on a karaoke stream. But better than Gura?
But that's a really hard sell. Sorry.

>>37738498
>simping for Orc
there will never be a fanbase more cucked than hookeks

Mumei's karaoke was good. But it made me miss Gura's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WIdT3otPOs

>>37738815
>Sabaton
Actually died from cringe. I cannot believe how much people eat this shit up. She sure is good at milking losers though, mad props.

>>37738859
>Actually died from cringe. I cannot believe how much people eat this shit up. She sure is good at milking losers though, mad props.
It was glorious. The chat was in an uproar. She does know how to entertain.

>>37737569
They do? Literally any fucking "loli" that leech off not just BGura way of speech but also her very own tangents like they are hers is more than enough for causing chumsharts to mass migrate even if temporarly

>>37739030
>mass migrate
Do they really, though? Yuko’s clearly benefiting from doing the things you just said, but flirting with regular 4view status isn’t exactly a sign of chumbuds migrating en masse yet.
That said, I do think it’s a tough nut to crack. I’m convinced that Gura was never invincible, just HoloEN. And if/as more cracks begin to show in HoloEN’s reputation as “the” EN corpo, I do think we’ll see more chumbuds actually defect. Maybe Yuko will be the one to both get the formula down AND be at the right place at the right time, but so far chumbuds appear to have stuck fairly closely to their oshi.

>>37739030
>They do? Literally any fucking "loli" that leech off not just BGura way of speech but also her very own tangents like they are hers is more than enough for causing chumsharts to mass migrate even if temporarly
Oh nyo, you said the four letter word. Not my fault you are blind to the numbers. As you mentioned, a good voice actress that others have tried and failed to replicate. With her absences, plenty of chances to mass migrate which has never happened, while others have still dropped. Gura has shown multiple times that she can build a fanbase from scratch, and will follow her as before.

>make a thread shitting on Gura
>start shilling his 2view indiewhores
Can you be even less subtle? Jesus

>>37736908
Now do one with CCV

>>37739325
Who the fuck else comes to mind other than the corpo that just debuted an EN gen and whose putative Gura-killer is the most popular one of her gen? You “people” who keep crying shill can’t seem to accept that sometimes, when things happen at the right place at the right time, lots of people will pay attention to a certain chuuba or a certain corpo with little to no shilling involved. This is exactly the same shit I hear whenever people start mentioning Pippa. It’s funny as a meme, but if anons seriously believe every mention of an inclining corpo/vtuber who isn’t in Hololive is “shilling”, then you’re ngmi

>>37739443
The replies to this anon thinking he’s me are retarded >>37739534

>>37738670
Seethe more deadbeats

>>37738605
Go watch her, if you're actually a chumbud you'll feel at home

>>37736908
do you have a graph for other EN?

It's odd that some of these posts think having one anti/shitposter kys would magically make her stream

>>37739336
Isnt that dire as well? Gura never used to have sub 20k streams back in her peak and now its a good stream if she does reach it

>>37740058
>Go watch her, if you're actually a chumbud you'll feel at home
I do like and have been watching Mumei more.

>>37737105
Is Mori going to get her raped again

>>37740230
>Isnt that dire as well? Gura never used to have sub 20k streams back in her peak and now its a good stream if she does reach it
Not going to deny that it is depressing. But in relation to other EN, she's doing well. It's kinda shocking how fast others have dropped.

May be me coping, but I think the western audience just doesn't have the fanaticism of the JP audience with anime like content. Nor to idol culture so much that it consumes their lives. I'll accept what Gura has is sustainable.
Gura has often talked with chat about new content suggestions, like doing reaction videos. Or using TikTok to help bring in new viewers. Chat usually says no, but she should give it a try. She also can bring back Gawr, for spicier content. But I keep getting the feeling that management is holding her back. She obviously shows frustration with them.

>>37740230
Gura's crashing her career with no survivors by by not doing streams and yet she's still mogging the homocollabers. It's pretty funny and also really makes you think.

>>37741209
>really makes you think
Thinking isn't your strong suit.

>>37741281
Does it hurt you when I point out that a women who is in the process of destroying her own career is still drawing better numbers than Kronii, Mori, Ame, and Bae? Does it wound you deep in your soul?

>>37737569
Chumbuds go and find some underage girl like last time

>>37741361
Moreover as soon as she releases Jazz Reflect this song will officially be the most popular EN original in no time
Youtube: 15.1M + 7.7M + 7M + a lot of clips
Spotify: 14.1M

can't wait to see her unseat the wigger

>>37737105
>holotalk
she's not gonna fly over just for what's essentially a glorified livestream, especially for a convention in a small island nation like singapore

>>37738498
This is bait or falseflag

you could have used tomorrow theme

>>37742233
Is she going out with the friends she met at Mori's villa? there was one hot guy that does cowboy cosplay on instagram, I wonder if she let him ride her yet.
It's funny how Mori talked a lot about the banger party and even talked about Gura being there but Gura has avoided the topic like plague, not a single mention of the party, only the "road trip" which was just the two of us with Mori's bf and one of the male friends she met going to the beach.
Mori wanted Gura to get laid and she succeeded. Bless the brapper.

Tempiss deflection thread

>>37740460
She'll make sure to record it this time

>>37743556
That guy is rad. I would let him ride me if I was her.

>>37743556
Gura didn't even go out of her room that day.

>>37743556
>the two of us
uh oh

>>37743556
The truth is that she's a normalfag with a fuckton of normalfag friends, she literally has some discord gamer "clique" full of males that she plays DBD with on her RM account

It's just funny how cumsharts buy the "socially anxious loner" narrative when literally her entire RM life she verifiably played games with males, she OUTRIGHT SAID SHE GOES OUTSIDE WHEN TIRED OF STREAMING, and one of Gura's many breaks was for house hunting (a tweet she deleted btw)

>>37743791
Are you fucking serious? she's at a party at Mori's place surrounded by hot as fuck guys and extrovert thots, music and bass making the walls tremble, free food and drinks... and you think she just stays put in her room pretending to sleep and getting depressed like some wimp? she's not you. There's no fucking way Mori would let her just stay there on her own anyway, she totally dragged her out of the room to show her the house and to meet her sister and her friends and she followed all of Mori's orders because she's the kind of person who likes to get dragged around by others. Why you think Mori invited a hot cowboy cosplay model to the party? no it wasn't her sister, Mori was fully aware about the party, she just kept silent to make Gura a "prank" because Mori is a fucking normalfag thot and she hates hololive and wants to ruin everything it represents starting with the idol image of their top streamer, Gawr Gura. Naturally Gura would never suspect Mori's intention and she played along and that's how she ended getting laid for the 3rd time in her life.

>>37740970
>But in relation to other EN, she's doing well.
It's all relative, she's experienced roughly the same percentage drop in CCV as others in EN. She's doing well in the same way her genmates are, 4.2m subs and barely breaking 12k CCV isn't a good look for someone that mainly does livestreams instead of videos. But like you said the EN side doesn't have the same fanaticism as the JP side. This is why someone like Marine can absolutely mog her regularly with half the sub count catering to a small language speaking base. The reality isn't a lack of streaming, it isn't homo, it's a sharp decline in viewer retention in the west as covid restrictions lifted.

>>37744064
Considering all she learned from her past mistakes, I believe the party cowboy rrat. She's never going to get a bf from online communities ever again because it's too risky, her current bf is without doubt a no-name normalfag who doesn't even know hololive exists and has no clue about Gura's work.

>>37744064
>Gura is actually just a whore
>source: the voices in the walls

She loves her job and her fans SO MUCH she just can't find the right words to tweet to us... for 10 days straight!!

>>37738478
Someone worth investing time to? Is it that fun to torture yourself? If this wasn't 4chan I would be genuinely look at you with pity
But you see I am a prick so, go fuck yourself and keep watching your sharkie

>>37744070
>breaking 12k CCV isn't a good look
Still a 5view which is the elite of the elite in streaming. I wonder how many holoEN viewers have migrated to JP as their nihongo reps started paying off.
t. former holoEN viewer who switched to holoJP once I could understand 15% of what they were saying

>>37744013
She did a duet with a baldy on twitch once, the song was Creep, the one she always sings. All the other songs she likes are the ones Jay sang on his twitch as well, seems like she only learns songs that her male friends like. Thinking about it I really can't remember a single time she streamed with a female when she was still HER.

She's like Mori, can only make friends among the boys and there's no way a girl who has only male friends can be still a virgin at her age. The cumbud delusions will be studied by future psychologists 100 years from now because they're simply paradoxical.

>>37744643
If we're going that route then it's only an extremely tiny percentage of streamers that make it to 4view territory as well. But honestly, success is really measured in how much is brought in via superchats, memberships, and merch. As for if people have been moving over, that's an insanely small subset of viewers. Like so microscopically small you're talking 1:10000 of the viewers switching over. You just happen to be an outliner, most western Holo fan consume both but mainly watch translated clips of JP because they're no longer locked in their house so JP reps are on the backburner.

>>37744662
duet link?

>Hey chumbuddies, this month will be short on streams due to some work/life/PC buying responsibilities, thanks for understanding!
Why is it so hard for Gura to write less than 20 words?

>>37745257
It was removed. The name of the baldy was something similar to 2girls1cup. The name is based on the same joke/meme but I forgot, maybe if you ask /mu/ somebody remembers him.

>>37744064
>party at Mori's place surrounded by hot as fuck guys
Tranny detected

>>37744315
Thank you for mentioning me. I'm just a normie slave wagie that have no idea about my super popular gf at all, she just seems to like drawing of little girls

>>37746188
The cowboy was objectively hot. There's no way the submissive Gura could resist getting friendly with him.

>>37736908
Holy autism but based

>>37736908
>that big drop from october to november

>>37737027
>>37737105
Her sim card broke and her capture card no longer works and her tablet screen cracked.

>>37739224
The majority of chumbuds will never become boobros or rindorks because the hololive fanbase is notorious for believing only in watching stuff that already has big numbers.

>>37738670
I will cuck mumei.

>>37736908
kino
that peak from october and immediately plummeting back down kek

>>37744462
kek are you feeling the love chumbies?

holy moly the amount of schizo rage seething cuckposting about gura that i just read thru

>>37736908
It's literally a chart of her bipolar disorder.
There's no hope for people like her, they can't take care of themselves.

>>37738478
There are hundreds of thousands of vtubers today, and you can't find a single person as entertaining as Gura?

>>37749137
I can, but they're not Gura

>>37736908
Damn, are you bitter and petty. Congratulations on "winning" I guess.

>>37744643
>. I wonder how many holoEN viewers have migrated to JP as their nihongo reps started paying off.
Almost none

>>37744662
She hadn't sang creep as Gura before 2022

>>37749270
All it takes is an extended period of time thinking, “Damn, it’s really annoying how she doesn’t say a fucking word when she stops streaming for weeks at a time,” and you’ll be sick of her and *want* to switch in no time.
Look, when Myth came out, I picked Mori as the one I followed, and when Council came out, the first one I started watching was Kronii. I’m very experienced at snapping out of being a fan of vtubers when they go to shit.

>>37749940
>I picked Mori as the one I followed, and when Council came out, the first one I started watching was Kronii
you're very experienced at having chronic shit taste, how can someone take you seriously after writing that?

>>37736908
oh man i'm on the screenshot so many times!

>>37750247
>I don't feel jealousy or insecurity
Really?

>>37736908
If I am reading this trendline right, it means the shark is predicted to hit zero monthly hours streamed by September/October next year?

>>37740460
see >>37737105
>someone else
Probably Moris sister again who'll announce to the world where exactly they are.

>but ame is a wh-
Don't care. Stream
>but mori is a wh-
Don't care. Stream
>but kiara is a wh-
Don't care. Stream
>but ina is on break t-
Don't care. Stream

>>37743556
>>37746539
Why are you saving cropped pictures of that guys abs? The
>Here's your ntr protagonist for the evening
Posting at the time was funny, but you are never going to convince me that she let loose at a party she didn't know about, whilst travelling for work, whilst having no idea who knew/didn't know what she did for a living.

Mori's sister knows what her sisters profession is, yet she still thought it was okay to organise a party with randoms at their location, someone as paranoid as Gura would rightly assume that if she is irresponsible enough to put them in a position like that despite the risks of doxing that she may have also blabbed to her normie friends about her famous youtuber sister and her friends being the reason they were renting the place. Knowing all that there is literally zero chance she got involved with that party any more than she needed to and exposed herself to drunk people posting her on instagram stories or some such.

>>37751717
There is one reason she would: irresistible cock lust.

>>37751753
Women don't like cock that much.

>>37751753
Sorry but if there is one aspect of her personality we know for a fact it is a level of paranoia about revealing anything substantial or identifying about her personal life that makes the average chuuba look like a leaky sieve. Any cocklust she may or may not have would be overpowered by the need to control risks in that moment and no amount of cuckposting will convince me otherwise

>>37751753
This. During the karaoke in her birthday week she sang songs about getting old and settling, she wanted her fans to know she's suffering and wants to settle with a man. A woman's instinct get stronger as she approaches the wall and the strongest instinct is the reproduction one.

Actually it would not surprise me in the slightest if it was her who asked Mori to invite some hot boys to meet and fuck with at the party.

Biggest joke is if it wasn't for the shitty meet and greet she has scheduled tomorrow she would have easy went without streaming even after Vesper comes out of jail.

>>37751965
Wrong. She doesn't want her fans to know anything.

>>37751874
>paranoia about revealing anything substantial or identifying about her personal life
To (You) not to her offline friends. She doesn't want to have anything to do with her fans, she hates them. Why you think she doesn't even care to tweet about thanksgiving or anything at all for 10 days straight after she said she was going to take just a couple days to fix her pc issue? are you one of those copefags who actually believe she's being anxious/shy about using twitter or members posts? come the fuck on buddy....

>>37744643
>i wonder how many holoEN viewers have migrated to JP as their nihongo reps started paying off.
I can tell you, less than 0,1%,
For 10.000 en viewers maybe 1 goes JP reps

>>37752065
If you read my post the point I am making is that the party presented a massive risk for stuff to leak outside her personal bubble, I agree she does not share anything truly substantial with her fans which is why I don't believe for a second that she would cut loose at a party of randoms where the risk of information/her identity leaking was that high. I just think cuckposting with this particular situation is retarded and does not hold up to any scrutiny.

>>37752336
>If you read my post the point I am making is that the party presented a massive risk for stuff to leak outside her personal bubble
Normies that don't even know what a vtuber is don't seem like a big risk. And no one ever found out anything about that party other than one pic that didn't reveal anything

>>37752336
People don't act the same way they act online when they are forced into social situations beyond their own control. Adding the factors of alcohol and weed smokes floating around, it would become almost impossible to predict the thought process of a person in a situation like this. One glass of wine can make a huge difference especially for women who are naturally weaker to alcohol due to their lower body mass.

>>37751717
What everyone seems to gloss over in this story is that MORI WAS TOO MUCH OF A PASSIVE FUCKWAD TO SLAM THE DOOR IN HER SISTERS FACE AND TELL HER TO GET RID OF THE RANDOS
She could have helped her friends have a nice quiet relaxing time but instead she hid in her room under a blanket

>>37752567
The fact is Mori didn't really care and I bet my fucking fap folder that she knew what was going to happen and still brought her along because she's a piece of shit of a human being who enjoys the misery of others. She wants to ruin the pseudo-seiso image Gura worked hard to build and she probably managed to achieve her goal, now they are the same because both of them are "dirty" in the sense they do shit behind the backs of their fans, be it parties or orgies.

>>37750247
Whatever happened to this guy?

>>37736908
She'll do one members only stream or karaoke, and chumbuds will forgive all.

>>37752547
>Normies that don't even know what a vtuber is
Mori's sister knows, and she still exposed them to retards who were uploading to social media and doxed the location of the house herself and like I said could have bragged to any one of those people leading her to get a camera stuck in her face, Gura would be aware of this and not willingly put herself in a position where it could have happened.
>>37752548
I know Mori made some offhand comment about tripping balls but come on, she is a huge dork and probably thought it made her look badass to her audience or something to overstate how intense this thing was, from the video we saw it was like 10 people give or take.
>Adding the factors of weed smokes floating around
Are you fucking serious? She got a contact high and rode the cowboy all night long huh?
Come on man give it up, it was a fucked up situation that reflects very poorly on Mori and her retarded sister but that is about it.

>>37753110
>Are you fucking serious? She got a contact high and rode the cowboy all night long huh?
Because this has never happened before to any woman ever.

>>37753110
Then what reason does she have to act like the stay at Mori's house never happened and the party never existed? if nothing happened she would have no issues talking about it.

>>37753379
>hey chumbies guess what! I passed out from alcohol and weed and was raped to hell and back for the whole night by a cowboy hottie!

>>37736908
Yeah, yesterday was pretty bad with the discord raid. Those pathetic faggots can't leave fanbases alone.

>>37753560
Honestly I haven’t been here for months, what the fuck is this cowboy shit about?

>>37737216
They're all vaccinated, so that'll happen regardless.

>>37737299
Based. All these guys are suffering from
Oneitis

>>37753086
Yeah me!

Expected Graduation: December 27, 2023

>>37736908
Hey look there's me! Fuck you cripple.

>>37753379
The same reason for every other part of her offstream life she does not share with us or any drama she ignores completely, she does not want to, Gura has never addressed any drama whatsoever on her stream, and people (even deadbeats) were LIGHTING mori up in her comments after she revealed that she let her sister throw a party.
Gura as usual, avoided wading into it in any fashion, not because she was hiding something, but because she is completely averse to bringing that shit onto her stream. She did a members to reassure her fans, and that was it.

>>37754210
Sure, believe whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

>>37741209
I honestly think she's better off going the Ayame route at this point, her fanbase will never leave anyways, and every stream will be an event.
She's rolling in cash by doing cons and concerts, streaming is a waste of time for her.

>>37754210
This causes the trust from her fans to drop which is worse than "drama" (being honest is drama now of course) because this fucks them up mentally, permanently.

>>37753712
Mori's sister threw a unplanned party at the rental myth were due to stay at for the offcollab, said sister also decided to post instagram stories from the location and a guy dressed up as a cowboy could be seen on camera briefly, some cuckposter saved a picture of his abs for some reason >>37746539
Gura and Mori arrived whilst this party was still going on and Mori decided to reveal all this information on stream because she is stupid which led to people tracking down her sisters insta in the first place and doxing the location of the residence and creating cuck fantasies about said cowboy.

Sounds to me like there was too much parasocialing and not enough REPS being done. Be better you fucking morons.

>>37754498
>unplanned
Do you believe in Santa too?

She's moving on, you should be happy for her,

>>37754551
Yo we got a Santa denier in here. Call him a faggot.

do chumbuds really? why put up with this?

>>37754329
I have no fucking idea what Gura gets up to in her private life when not working, and I am not under any delusions that she is totally pure, but for the reasons I outlined earlier itt, I just do not believe for one second she did anything other than hide away at Mori's sisters opsec nightmare of a party
>>37754551
Unplanned on Mori and Gura's part, of course her sister fucking planned it but she blindsided the girls with it.

>>37754683
"chumbuds"

>>37754683
Unironically they’re mind broken. All the other chumbuds who had a backbone have left by now

Gura has always been a short focus kind of person. She can't play any game for more than a few streams before she gets bored, and quickly gets burnt out attempting any big project. Until she cycles back around to motivated again.

We are experiencing a long draught of shark at the moment. But no doubt in my mind she'll come back and stream hard for a period of time before burning out and repeating the process. Any Chum worth his salt has accepted this.

>>37754940
october was a light month. there has not been a "stream hard" in 2022.

>>37744462
Happy Turkey Day! You stinky goobers.

>>37741677
I'm very entertained that you think releasing the exact same song three times is a point of pride

>>37752741
Imagine seething at your own imagination

Gura provides entertainment even when she doesn't stream, I love see you schizos seethe at her success. I hope the cute shark enjoys her time off.

>>37746926
She has money to replace anything that breaks and even buy backups, or you know that is what a responsible person would do.

>>37759220
Are watching the same shark? Lmao.

>>37759220
she stopped doing things

anon there's a much easier way to trigger chumbuds and get (You)s, just post this image

>>37747423
I have absolute faith in my wife but gotta admit the lack of communication besides the management tweets is rustling me a little bit.
Tomorrow she got a meet and greet in Singapore, I really hope she'll talk about what's going on with her.

>>37760660
she hasn't said anything in nine months about it so there's no reason to think she will suddenly say something now

>>37760655
Why would buds be triggered by matpat? He’s not a horny person and has a wife

How autistic do you have to be to make a collage of this? The people that moan nonstop about chumbuds are worse than the chumbuds themselves

>>37760655
Mat Pat is an idiot who doesn't do simple research for his videos and his fans eat it up anyway.

>>37736908
Vax is taking a toll probably

>>37736908
NFL teams only play once a week yet is the most popular sport in the US.

this is the champion of the unicorns?
where is she?

>>37761209
the fans know when to show up because the games are locked to a rigid, structured schedule that's published well in advance. in concert with gura's deep decline in activity, she also withdrew schedule announcements (other than a vague MWF plan that didn't really happen in reality), so it is very difficult to plan when to show up.

>>37760923
they had to document their shitposting in ggg yesterday, otherwise they can't give each other hi-fives in discord for being obnoxious faggots

>>37760923
>>37761354
It took like 20 minutes and I was laughing my ass off the whole time as I was reading the threads.

>>37762240
>i-i won!
embarrassing

>>37762240
Do you make these for other girls that don't stream? Or is it just Gura?

>>37762309
You got me.
Anyway, enjoy whatever it is you've been doing here for the past 8 hours. I might be back later to check in on you.

>>37762434
i'm just a gurafag my dude

>>37736908
come home chum buds
jps... stream

>>37762639
>we hate you
>but you should "come home" anyway

She's switching gears to be like Aqua where streaming is an increasingly lower priority and transitioning into larger but sparse projects, for better or worse

>>37761280
Also, not every fan is equally dedicated. I stopped watching Council because they took so many breaks that I had more important things like meetings and deadlines and irl shit to keep track of. I’m not going to put a fucking vtuber stream in my planner next to the quarterly report that’s due the same day, I want to know that at approximately X time there’s roughly a 5/7 chance or so that there’ll be a stream by X vtuber.
If you’re not already in deep, there’s only so many times you can go, “Oh, right, she’s taking a break,” before you just forget/stop bothering.

>>37762745
The difference is, Aqua has actual sponsorships and shit to make the corpo money and that actually warrant her being somewhat busy. I seriously think Gura is either burned out or has been going through serious mental health problems that are making her ridiculously incapable of keeping her shit together. There’s no way whatever “projects” she’s working on behind the scenes are keeping her that busy.

>>37737519
That's a weird shift from cunnytuber to a based manchild

Chumbuds please, this isnt healthy.
Any good relationship is give and take, all Gura is doing is taking.
I dont like seeing you guys like this.

>>37763374
>pretending to like chumbuds

>>37763546
Its the holidays, have a little empathy.

>>37763647
I'm a chumbie, a part of the most hated fanbase on this board

>>37763546
As much as I dislike both Gura and chumkeks, I feel a tiny bit of pity for the cumbuds because Gura maintaining radio silence like this all the time is just shitty.
But I know that sunk cost fallacy can be a real bitch, so I don’t bother telling cumbugs to watch someone else. If any of them ever feel sick of it and want to defect, all the small corpo generals, plus /lig/, are right there in the catalog.

>>37738478
Nyanners, the better Gura.

>>37764409
"Haha my boyfriend cums in me every night!" "Hihi peepee poopoo" Tho tbf that last one could be gura too

>>37736908
Why do you care?

>>37764518
She's like Gura with more honesty (mostly because Gura is smart and Nyanners is a retard)

heil hitler

>why don't you watch someone else
They're not Gura
>Gura is not unique there's this person who-
She's not Gura
>Gura is not fun there's this vtuber who's bett-
They're not Gura
>She doesn't *retarded projection shit* you
Don't care, still want to watch Gura
>She doesn't stream
Will wait for Gura

Keep bumping this shit thread friend!

>>37737105
Vesper.

>>37738478
Fauna.

>why don't you watch someone else
They're not Nyan
>Nyanners is not unique there's this person who-
She's not Nyan
>Nyanners is not fun there's this vtuber who's bett-
They're not Nyan
>She makes fun of you with her bf
I know, still miss 2021 Nyan
>She streams
Rather she didn't now

>>37767055
That's based. Enjoy your oshi

>>37767114
I can't
i don't think you read the full post

>>37736908
>be an alcoholic menhera womanchild that streams for a living
>you are offered to join japanese company, where you get your own group of friends and together you are supposed to become singing and dancing idols like your favourite Hatsune Miku
>be excited and join
>actually you are doing same shit as before, but with japs taking 3/4 of your money and "friends" that hate you, plus all good shit goes into japanese counterpart and you are supposed to be just a sign pointing at all the cool concerts that they are doing for filthy gaijins
Yeah, I totally don't see why she is doing it

>>37767259
Oh I'm sorry

>>37762823
She is the only EN who has done projects as big as sololive (Mori's doesn't count she has it easy) and compared to the most hardworking EN like Kiara, Kiara had to bother the girls for days during the off collab arc to make her kanaru-esque birthday 3D live. In terms of quality Gura's singing clips are popular on the nip channels for a reason.
>Aqua
RB is one of those scummy brands, Aqua also has it easy. Meanwhile Gura chooses her sponsorships carefully.

>>37768422
when i see an advertisement for alice fiction, the first thing that comes to my mind is gawr gura

>>37768464
>Scarlet Nexus? Yeah that's something Gawr Gura from Hololive Myth EN would play!
kek I wonder how they get these sponsorships. Is it just Gura raking some money?

>>37767828
bah-bye!!

How long until she graduates?

>>37772704
that's the thing that's so frustrating about OP's linear regression, is he could have just told us where the line crosses the X-axis

>>37768422
>(Mori's doesn't count she has it easy)
>RB is one of those scummy brands, Aqua also has it easy.
Contortionists aint got shit on you bro with how you twisted yourself to paint Gura as some hard worker.

>>37738478
Korone. Easily.

I miss my shark wife :(

>>37762420
who streams less than gura

>>37741209
i mean, it'd be really fucking weird if the member with x4 times the subs of the average holoEN didn't have more CCV.

>>37774021
I can't, it's made with google sheets and good luck getting anything useful out of that.

>>37775049
export it to excel retard

Maybe Hololive should think about recasting her. She's obviously too important in terms of marketing to the normies in the west to out and out allow to graduate. It would mark the end of EN. There would obviously be some backlash but it's been done before outside of Hololive.

>>37775115
no

>>37750247
Based. Shit like this tickles my autism

>>37775221
most hilarious post i've read
why do you think surpassing kizuna AI was so easy anon

>>37736908
you have autism

severe autism

What's her excuse gonna be this time?

>>37775506
you are easily impressed if scouring a thread for posts and pasting them in photoshop is all it takes

>>37775236
Just do it

>>37775221
>It would mark the end of EN.
Please.
EN would continue just fine without her.

>>37749137
There are hundreds of thousands of vtubers but finding any ONE is hard. That's why advertising and marketing is important.

>>37753110
Imagine all the things that happened like this one and we'll never know about them because Mori wasn't drunk enough to spill the beans on stream.

Not with just Mori but literally anyone from Gura's social circle. It kills me inside day by day a bit at a time the more I see her get so cold and distant that I can't help thinking the worst rrats can be true.

>>37774204
Ina, Ayame, Aqua, Marine

>>37774204
Me

>>37775221
>recasting
>would mark the end of
hololive

>>37737027
Where did you hear that?

>>37784206
Gray.

>>37736908
It’s sad how Kiara who works the hardest is the least popular in EN but this lazy cunt is the most popular vtuber ever.

>>37787754
>Schizos go on and on about being true to hololive.
>Kiara is both the hardest working EN and her streaming style is identical to the JP girls.
>Least popular and got the most amount of shit in debut and for months after.
Funny isn't it.

>>37787754
>least popular in EN
>is always one of the top moneymakers in Holo EN
>is often the top moneymaker in Holo EN
I'm sure she's devastated

>>37736908
When the sweetness is gone, the pulp is thrown out.

vacuum my cock tighter than a mic hose

The image in the OP looks like a page from the Zohar

>>37788230
>Something something shrill voice
>Something something RM doxxposting

I kinda wish KawaiiCorp didn’t have that Yab recently, we needed a containment corpo to funnel all these fucking SEA schizos.

>>37738478
Mumei
Kobo
Any of the nacho siblings (Kana, Luto, Naname)
Haachama
Filian
Bao
Vienna
Nihmune
Lily
Any of the Obsydia girls
Girl_DM
Nyanners

>>37790171
Are you a fellow enthusiast of the esoteric or is this just another dig at Idol Corp?
The Zohar is modeled after the Talmud in its structure, so it also kind of looks like the OG too

>>37790349
based objective answer except for nimu and bao

>>37790244
You know someones just grasping at shit to hate when the crux of their argument is doxx shit.

>>37737105
It's me. I'm Singaporean and I fetched her, mori and watame at the airport.
I booked a 5 star hotel room with 2 double beds and I will be having an orgy for at least 2 nights with them. I specifically want to anal Mori Calliope and paizuri on watame's hairy armpits. Gura, not so much. Maybe choke her with my modestly size Singaporean dick in her mouth and cum buckets.

wannafuck ransomware

>>37792353

>>37792425
wannaFACK

>>37736908
Holy shit it is a downward trend
but what does she mean by this??????????????
Experts, explain pls. What's the message she is sending here?

>>37793604
Birthing brood after brood of my Mexican half-breeds is a full-time job, sorry.

>>37736908
>a collage of /ggg/ posts
Half of which were made by the same falseflagging discord tranny.

>>37738478
Being totally honest I jumped ship to Pomu/Rosemi from Gura over a year ago when she started acting like this and have never looked back. They're 10x the streamer she ever was and at this point I don't know why I bothered watching someone who plays every game on easy mode. The Soma stream should've been a wake up call.

>>37793947
>bringing up trannies unprompted
Was it you?

>>37793025
wannaF-ACK!

>>37779225
>Imagine all the things that happened
shenanigans

>thread turned into "p-please drop gura for my oshi"

>>37741677
>combined views
So are you counting RIPs Spotify views or the topic channel version or the multiple remixes?

>>37777341
LMAO no

>>37777341
Gura is all that is keeping holoEN above the competition in the EN sphere. You may not like it or her but that's reality.

>>37744070
>It's all relative, she's experienced roughly the same percentage drop in CCV as others in EN. She's doing well in the same way her genmates are, 4.2m subs and barely breaking 12k CCV isn't a good look for someone that mainly does livestreams instead of videos. But like you said the EN side doesn't have the same fanaticism as the JP side. This is why someone like Marine can absolutely mog her regularly with half the sub count catering to a small language speaking base. The reality isn't a lack of streaming, it isn't homo, it's a sharp decline in viewer retention in the west as covid restrictions lifted.
Even if it's at losing same percentage, it is still doing well, when she has such a larger base. I guess it depends on perspective.
Comparing CCV is at a disadvantage with western vtubers that have fans in widely different time zones. Gura still pulls in total views not far from the top of JP. This past month is a bad sample with her only doing 6 streams, but the two previous months, she was still gaining 50k subs per month, while other EN hit bottom....and it's still above HoloJP members. Gura still having the ability to bring in new viewers, is what makes her different than other EN members that are stuck in stagnation. We'll see when she returns to streaming more consistently.

>>37796774
Kiara has put more effort into keeping HoloEN afloat than anyone else. Gura literally fucks off for weeks without notifying anyone and then expects to be welcomed back every time despite contributing nothing to the branch.

>>37797011
>with her only doing 6 streams
God damn it where are my cigs.

>>37797046
And yet a Gura that doesn't stream still nets more results than Kiara streaming all month. I know it triggers you and many others but that's reality.

>>37797241
That's just the inertia of her explosive growth in the first 6 months of HoloEN. Her growth has absolutely cratered, it's just 10,000 tourists that show up to streams once in a while and then promptly go back to watching xqc the moment she ends instead of supporting the rest of EN. That doesn't suggest she's done anything for the branch if her fanbase is entirely tourists.

Kiara, while having a much smaller core viewerbase, at least constantly ferries her viewers to other streams and promotes Hololive content to ensure they're part of the Hololive ecosystem.

>>37797343
>it's just 10,000 tourists
Fuck you fag

>>37797343
Gura's growth cratered now, Kiara's growth cratered a year ago despite her efforts. The size of her fanbase brings far more money to Cover than Kiara could ever hope to do, and that's what matters the most to Cover. Again, I know this is a fact that many people don't like, but it is what it is. Effort is often meaningless without the results to show for it.

>>37797464
What money does Gura's fanbase actually make for Cover though? Kiara mogs her by 2-3x in superchats. We have no metrics for Gura's membership but considering she doesn't do members karaokes anymore it's probably been heavily declining. Unlike Nijisanji, Hololive doesn't sell voice packs or new rounds of merch every month, so how are they monetizing Gura's fanbase? She doesn't even do sponsored streams very often. It's not like Cover is directly profiting from all those fanarts and cosplays that get spammed on their subreddit.

Sure, if she was hardworking she would've absolutely blown the rest of Myth out of the water with sponsorships, licensing deals on 3rd party merch, convention meet n greets, video game/anime tie-ins, etc. But given that Gura declines the majority of opportunities given to her it's understandable why Cover only ever use her in promotional materials where her presence is not actually necessary like UMISEA. She isn't the pillar of HoloEN her fans think she is.

>>37796774
Even if you completely remove Gura HoloEN is still comfortable several thousand above the next competitor and only beaten by HoloJP. Gura is a big deal don’t get me wrong but without her it still isn’t a competition?

>>37737202
Don't care. I watch Ina. I'm already at 0.

>>37797633
you're too much of a newfag and a nijinigger and it's not even funny

>>37797633
>SC
Embarassing cope, but I understand I am talking with a nijifan now. A Pomu/Kiara fan I assume? Anyway, SC is peanuts for Cover or Anycolor. Gura's memberships are among the top of all of hololive, not just EN, but even that isn't much in the grand scheme of things. Merch sales on the other hand is a much better indicator and Gura is the only EN that can compare with top JPs there (and there is a LOT of merch, but I guess a nijifan wouldn't know), and her popularity for events is a magnet for people (and their money). Really, I understand you hate her but you're letting that hate blind you if you really think Gura isn't bringing more money to Cover than Kiara.

>>37797705
HoloEN would have gone under nijiEN and Vshojo multiple times in the past without Gura, in multiple metrics. Nowdays everyone in the EN sphere declined so I suppose it is arguable.

>>37797998
>Gura's memberships are among the top of all of hololive
Gura hasn't had any good membership content for almost 6 months anon. You really think 20,000 people are just continuing to pay $5/month for an empty membership?

>>37798052
>Gura hasn't had any good membership content for almost 6 months anon.
Are we arguing about quality now? If you don't like her member streams that's ok anon, it's your tastes, but a lot of people clearly do. Ever been to /hlgg/ during a Gura member stream? I know it's not much of an indicator but it's kind of crazy to see the thread move as fast as a normal stream thread. I kind of doubt you ever membered Gura and actually watched her member streams tho. I mean, do you actually pay someone you hate to watch her members stream? Even if you pirate it, do you really go to the trouble of looking for it and watching it considering you don't like Gura? Seems kind of weird.

>>37797998
Anyone who thinks Gura has been anything but a golden goose for Cover is probably getting high off something

>>37797633
Gura is picky on sponsorships. No Like, No Take. Simple as that. She often talks about not doing games she doesn't like since she's afraid her real feelings will transfer to the audience. She refused that PC case sponsorship because she said it was just a couple of stickers.
I like that Gura has never asked for superchats...even during these trying times. Heck, she hardly reads them. "Don't ever feel the need to donate. Your company is more than enough." - Gura. Well, that doesn't stop me ;) It never seems about the money for this shork.
>>37796774
Gura is still the top EN that brings in new subs. Without her will affect the rest. As some of those new subs will join other members.

>>37737569
Love

>>37797998
I too can lie.

>>37798551
>no argument
I accept your concession.

>>37790869
cute sui...

Is she pregnant for real this time?

>>37797998
>where her presence is not actually necessary like UMISEA.
ahhhh this take right here is as niji as it gets. literally there's no difference between printing money and successfully selling tons of some B2 tapestries. Cover execs were probably wiping their tears with money if they saw this kind of comment.

>>37799267
Must be her second child, the first was adopted by her parents because she was underage. This time she has to take care of the child by herself.

Even Fauna who got a kareshi still loves her fans more than Gura does, they may be friend zoned but at least they are treated as human beings.

This is worse than abandoned dogs, forever doomed to look for your owner that will never come back unless she feels the itch and then she leaves again for long unknown amount of times.

>>37800624
Gura is the worst in Myth in terms of caring for her fans, maybe second only to Ame.

>>37800624
>saplings
Imagine simping for somebody else's girl lol couldn't be me.
That's basically a succubus without the succ outfit.

>>37800748
Stop gaslighting me faggot

>>37801086
Close the tab. Go stream.

>>37801086
kys larp faggot

Why would she stream more? Do you think vtubers do it for fun? It's a job and she's made enough money to not need to stream as often

>>37738478
TOKOYAMI TOWA

>>37801371
>Do you think vtubers do it for fun
A good amount of them do it for fun. Off course is even funnier when you makes good money,but we have good examples of girls who clearly don't like streaming even though having good numbers, making very good monkey and being popular.

>>37801156
>>37801262
>larp
merely a fan not falling for your psyop

>>37799992
>>37797633
also go see the hierarchy yourself here
https://store.innersloth.com/collections/all-products/?sort_by=best-selling
https://store.innersloth.com/collections/all-products/?sort_by=best-selling
https://store.innersloth.com/collections/all-products/?sort_by=best-selling

The magics gone.....
Its over....

>>37743556
>cowboy
Lol no way Jay would let her get close to another man, don't forget she's still in contact with him and they probably never broke up. The ringfit stream is the only proof you will ever need.

>>37743556
>>37801936
I would beat the shit out of him I am hella jacked.

>>37801936
>probably never broke up
Anyone who knows her from HER days could easily guess that because the first American songs she sang as Gura were the ones that Jay sang on his twitch.
They are still up, go check.

>>37801936
>doesn't know about barbie
out of the loop aren't we?

>>37802398
perms never....

Gura hates her fans with a passion.
She's more passionate about hating her fans and grudging than she is for her work.
This is my oshi, she may hate me to death but this is my oshi.
I still have faith that some day she will change her ways. I will continue supporting her so that she may feel a little bit better about herself and her job.

>>37759220
The replacements she bought all got lost in shipping.

>>37804862
shut the fuck up asshole

that's a lot of deleted lmao

>>37753934
Ayame, Shion and Aqua will teach her how to soft graduate while maintaining her passive outcome.

>>37805346
*passive income

>>37804972
>he seethes because he knows its true.
gotta love it.

>>37736908
literally every over holo member except some based like Pekora, Koyori and Kaela

>>37750116
>having chronic shit taste
Dude you're a chumbud

No streams lol

>>37737105
retard

Still no streams

>>37801510
> very good monkey
So just Peko then?

>>37737027
Hahajaha

>>37736908
based

>>37753110
Finally someone here that has actually done some really partying and drugs. That place looked tame as fuck. No one is getting laid there. I'm willing to bet there were no hard drugs and some normal ate too many weed candies. Also guys no one wants to fuck while actually tripping. Signed an actual drug addict

>>37815667
>guys no one wants to fuck while actually tripping
t. hasn't been on meth

>>37740173
Yes. Just take the Gura graph from above and flip it upside down.

>>37736908
You cumbuds still don't get it? There is gonna be Axel with Gura today at the panel.
She was forced by management and now she's doing this ghosting to spite them.
You won't find any vods of the panel anywhere because it would cause an uproar among western fans.

>>37737105
The Dick Hunters

>>37736908
it actually surprises me that the decline is so slow. my subjective impression was of a swift and powerful decline starting in late march 2022.

>>37737105
WHAT, WHEN? I HAVE A SCHEDULED FLIGHT TO SINGAPORE, I NEED TO KNOW THE DATE.

>>37798351
I don't want to watch someone make money, I want to watch someone stream.

>>37820343
For some reason it’s hard for chumbuds to understand that people like seeing a streamer stream

>>37820437
Why do you care about a fanbase you're not part of?

>>37820502
I’m a fan of hololive and gura is decently entertaining

>>37736908
kek

cum on my tits

>>37738478
Sincerely, please go off yourself cumtard.

If only she cared to stream more…..

>>37831025
cumming penis

>>37737569
have you heard of the word containment, its the only way to at least keep those pedo's in one place

>>37738478
any girl from Vshojo, Fillian, and Mori sometimes

digbert wants a bath

>>37736908
Why do they talk about trannies so much

>>37794211
Pomu is.
Rosemi is fucking worse lmao

wake up from the holobubble already newfags, specially EN