/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Looking forward to Finana's debut!

(You)'re the ocean I wanna dive into tonight!

Guys, Finana is at 40k subs and rising. Was brapping into a kiddie pool the key to success after all?

>>3763598

Yeah we really needed another one of these

>>3763598

Sex with Pomu (forma de 9cm)

https://youtu.be/cfE0ZETbOlY

I'M GONNA SSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone care to elaborate the past of Finana? People say she got doxxed but all I found here was a kinklist that could be made by anyone.

What did people find out about her? Was she a vtuber before?

Pomu's voice is extremely grating, I wouldn't be able to sit through an hour of that, Quite obviously faking it as well.

Whoever comes up with the idea to co-stream the debut on the main channel is smart. Riot has employed that tactic for their tournament and it has been amazing for their valorant scene. At this stage getting more eyes on them is more important than initial numbers on their individual channels. I hope to see more co stream like this for future events

>>3763767
Hololive avatars in comments kek!

>>3763823

do literally two minutes of research you spoonfed redditor.

>>3763839
I think it worked better than I expected. I was a little worried about how it would work but with the direction from the main channel stream it seemed tondo a good job of wrangling people to the actual debuts.

>>3763823
I think someone said its a schizo stalker from her ff14 days, aka when she was underaged for added creep

>>3763912
>>3763896
>Decent Euro timezones yet debut was when Euros were asleep.
Where are they fucking from?

>>3763935
I don't care how people dress it up, Superchat reading in your first week as a member of a V-Tuber company is a huge fucking no no and looks bad, Build your audience first instead of thinking about money.

>>3763598
I fucking hope Fina debuts as soon as possible. I waited long enough already.
I want my coomer fish waifu now!

ELIRA!

>>3763934
Probably just fucked up sleep schedule like half of nijisanji

>>3763970
CUTE

>>3763970
Why is she so adorable? I don't wanna gosling...

>>3763839
Finana's fuckup would've been way worse without the main stream to back her up.

Elira a cute. A CUTE!

>>3763970
https://youtu.be/nQb5s3QXFGA?t=619

NO.

>>3763666
I don't think so since Elira is about to overtake her real soon. I guess even Susan can't manipulate the results to keep fish on top for long. Maybe things will change when the actual debut happens. Maybe they'll all hit 100k subs within this month.

>>3763823
Check the archives FFXIV

>>3763957
Considering that her first stream is supposed to be today, I’m guessing she’s going to do the debut 30 minutes prior.

Overall im very happy with all the debut's i thought they were great. Very fun day in all

>>3763767
Cringe

>>3763956
I see your point but how about this. Knowing people are going to supacha anyway, this will be a good way of connecting with the fans and showing appreciation.

eufriend here, whose debut do I watch first?
or do I wait until finana had hers too?

>>3764035
Looking at her twitter she seems to think she figured out what was causing her problems.

>>3764035
A back-to-back stream would be great

>>3763956
I think you're overcomplicating it, thanking superchat streams are just that, thanking superchats, since they can't read everything during the stream but want to thank people who donated so they do it separately

>>3764103
watch pomu then dragon then their segment on the main channel

>>3764012
I'm assuming by next week.

More reach because EN and Pomu got the attention of Walfie

Assuming Walfie immediately starts making art of Pomu and the Niji subreddit starts making "Smol Pomu" memes, you can bet they'll be boosted like crazy

>>3764103
Doesn't matter but pomu went first if that's what you're asking

>>3763956
>>3764098
Fuck that, scheduling a superchat stream out of the gates is fucking retarded no matter what
Elira handled it better with the guerrilla stream

Fairy in a jar

>>3763839
I thought it was dumb at first, but it really did come in handy to keep things rolling during Fina's flunked debut.

>One off the Niji EN members favourite V-Tuber is Pekora.

ouch.

>>3764103
Watch order as of now
>Pomu debut
https://youtu.be/x8Z1IQj3BIc
>Elira debut
https://youtu.be/nQb5s3QXFGA
>Chat with Hanabon (start from timestamp)
https://youtu.be/MC6yl3CyePA?t=4777
>Elira zatsudan (way better impressions than her debut)
https://youtu.be/l8cEzHdeWKY

>>3763956
>being thankful and appreciative as well as giving people that donated more incentive to do so is bad
this isn't hololive where they stream 1 month without monetization and have a big brand name to carry them

>>3764176
I will fill the jar with my semen!

All of them are streaming at horrible times for EU watchers. It feels like all of these companies think that EN = America. This is 100% going to harm their growth cause tbey're missing out on the entire EU. It's a shame I can't watch cause they seemed fun. Oh well, back to indies I guess.

>>3764192
Matuli favourite chuuba is Sara, so what

>>3764192
Anonchama, do your Ina roommate reps.

>>3764217
You can do that after, Seriously your FIRST week? It's just a huge no, Like I said you can dress it up how you want but it's obvious why two haven't done it and one has.

>>3764238
>EU watching chuubas
Gura's little experiment proves there's no market over there

>>3764238
Why do they hate yuros so much?

>>3764238
Are dragon's times not good enough for you?

>>3764241
Hoshikawa didn't exist when Matsuri debuted mate.

>>3764238
Elira's streams are in EU evening hours, even earlier than Ina
that's as good as you'll get

>>3764143
>Smol Pomu
shouldn't they be wide pomu since she's already small?

>>3764250
They were already getting donations from Twitch integration and Streamlabs, so it kinda makes sense iirc

Just kinda weird to have it in your schedule on your first week, maybe. Would have probably been better if she put in TBA instead? What happens if no one donates within the week?

>>3764268
That's what I was thinking 8pm and 9pm GMT seems to me like it should be fine for EU?

>>3764238
The United States of America is the only country that matters.

>>3764238
Yuropoor here, Elira's streaming hours are good for me. I'm only missing the karaoke (which I'll probably wake up for anyway) and kuukiyomi

>>3763934
Unemployed american treating it like a proper job?

>>3764268
They're good for catching the start but if you have a job, watching more than 1 hour is difficult

>>3764288
>What happens if no one donates within the week?
that won't happen, superchat reading streams are also superchat farming streams
even the holoID's that get low amounts of them can do them once per week and treat it as a zatsudan stream

>>3764238
eh? Elira's streams are good for Euros.
Pomu's aren't bad either but most will likely be asleep.

>>3764264
Europeans just get the short end of the stick for sitting in the middle, sorry bro not much we can do about that. Consider moving to Asia or Oceania, since the US is fucked.

>>3764098
I won't go as far as they did but its a little worrying that she already scheduled a sc reading.

And Finana's response to the person she admires didn't feel genuine. I hope its just nerves because Elira is already out of the running for being a Steven Universe fan.

Please be decent fish girl, please.

>>3764328
Oh, I get too used to Gura turning off Supachat when reading them, even she does it in a separate stream.

Is it normal for Chuubas to enable Superchats during Superchat reading or is Gura just the outlier

>>3763956
Depends on who really. Kiara was a big hit. Anya not so much

https://twitter.com/mayuzumi_X/status/1393784057448722434
Late senpai support

>>3764362
if they're a big streamer, they will very likely turn them off to not get overwhelmed and deal with the ones they already have
otherwise, it's a superchat farming stream

>>3764238
They're on reasonable time slots I guess. Much better than HoloEN in my opinion. It's hard to stream EU times without either competing with JP or totally missing a good bunch of US/Canada fags and let's be honest, these are who will bring in most of the superchat revenue.

Between them there's quite a lot of stuff on their schedules I want to see.

>>3764238
>It feels like all of these companies think that EN = America
Because america is the greatest concentration of english speakers and if you go for native english speakers it's straight up the majority. Pursing english speakers outside of the US just doesn't make sense

>>3764375
>ignored Pomu's reply
does he hate fairies?

>>3764238
>It feels like all of these companies think that EN = America.
Because that is true. The US alone has a much larger potential audience than all of europe combined, for obvious reasons. And yes, the UK is irrelevant.

>>3764256
When the fuck has Gura ever streamed at EU-friendly times? If anything her views got cucked she streamed far too late to the point even some East Coasters went to bed already.

It's Ina that hogs the EU+NA timezone all for herself and she benefited greatly from it.

>>3764444
me thinks you're reading too much into it, there's been more than an hour since he responded to Elira before Pomu replied.

Could have just gotten off twitter for the day.

>>3764470
UK's + Ireland's make up 70 million people. That's 1/5 of the US's population, I mean it's still not much but it's not irrelevant

>>3764511
She did a week where she streamed at EU hours but then stopped because she was too tired to stream at those hours and the views were like 75% of her usual numbers

>>3764207
>watch the post-debut talk with Hana
>Hana just keeps talking and talking
what the fuck is her problem?

>>3764511
She streamed EU friendly times when she played RDR2 in Dec - Jan

She also streams EU friendly hours when collabing with Ina

Those tend to be the worst times for Gura, with the least number of viewers for her

>>3764512
i know, anon i'm just shitposting

its pretty good that niji en can already show a different direction from holo en. they focus more on japanese/otaku culture than hole en and both dragon and pomu are decent vtubers who know well about it. dragons japanese is very good as well. its going to go well.

that being said, nijisanji actually has been able to cultivate and form the new style in the western vtuber industry. while westerners and thirdworlders on this board are always complaining about japanese companies, but today eventually japan is superior. niji en just shows the reality that americans couldnt even run a company like this. couldnt discover/produce/handle/gather these western talents. you had time but you couldnt do anything.

>>3764527
Someone posted a list of currencies that Holo EN recieved in superchats, and GBP was less than half of both Canadian and Australian dollars

>>3764582
Holy shit, even Aussies outspend the britbongs?

>>3764582
Do you think that might have something to do with them streaming at garbage times for that region maybe though? Can't really superchat if you aren't awake.

>>3764238
yuropoors perpetually seething

>>3764582
European viewers are pretty stingy, so it doesn't surprise me

>>3764582
yuropoors...

>>3764617
It doesn't help that it's one of the most expensive currencies to superchat in, an AUD aka is the equivalent of £55, while for us it's 100

>>3764249
what's with ina?

>>3764470
Nigga what you on about? The EU has at least 200 milion english speakers. That's an incredibly significant untapped market

>>3763839
It was a great idea. And really helped with Finana fuck up.

>>3764511
She tried Skyrim and RDR 2 in Euro hours. She got like half her usual views (even counting recline)

>>3764582
Interesting. One of the clip channel actually posted his viewers stats and brits actually made up about 12k of his viewers compared to 80k burgers

>>3763906
Based

>>3764617
Well yeah we generally earn slightly more than the brits AFAIK

>>3764470
You say that but twitch peak activity hours are exactly the timeslots elira is aiming for
in b4
>twitch
it's the most reliable source for data about streaming related content,

Europeans just don't have as much disposable money because their money mostly goes into taxes and social security. That's why you see so little Euro SCs

>>3764582
britbongs are even an hour later than the rest of EU, so of course they won't watch
it's pretty much the single worst timezone to watch english vtubers in

>>3764207
I definitely agree that the zatsudan with elira gave a better impression

pomu?

>>3764582
It's not quite half of AUD but still very low considering the UK has nearly triple the population

>>3764780
No, we're an hour earlier

>>3764808
>Canadians outspend yuros
pathetic

>>3764840
Eurozone population: 342 million
Canada population: 38 million
Europoors...

>>3764840
Europe doesn't give a fuck about weebshit, outside of France. It is pointless to pander to the timezone.
I've literally never met a weeb IRL

t. German

outside of 4chan, are there plenty of weebs in euroland compared to US and SEA?. i think that might be a factor but i dunno.

>>3764898
France is the 3rd biggest consumer of japanese media outside of China and Japan

>>3764880
There are many ironic ones here

>>3764880
I forgot to say this is compounded with the fact that even nowadays there are still many many people who don't speak English well.

>>3764880
You have Kiara and Melonpan. Enjoy

>>3764933
>Melonpan
He's swiss not European

>>3764919
The problem is French don't speak English

There's a shitload of weebs in SEA as well, so US night is SEA's late morning.
Sure, places like the Phillipines are all weeb with no money, but Singapore and Australia help make up on that front

>>3764678
Ina has done official art for Nijisanji (like Sasaki)

>>3764945
swizz german autist tax dodger multimillionaire

>fish is a whore and dragon and fairy are human garbage cancel mob participants
Yep, dropped this shit like a hot potato.

>>3764945
Switzerland is in Europe.

>>3764991
Yes, and?

Walfie is gonna boost nijisanji EN hard.

>>3764946
>only euroweebs don't speak english
euros gotta learn french and wait for Nijisanji/Hololive FR

>>3764958
ok

>>3764981
seething

does niji have a collab ban like holo or can the ENs be saved by their senpais

Eli LOVE
Dragon is too powerful!

>>3765043
Never gonna happen

>>3765026
A Swiss girl is therefore also a European.

>>3765062
I love everything about her except two things: pet is distracting and ugly, she looks smug but doesn't bully her chat in the slightest

>>3765058
maybe yes? i mean marine had collabs with mito

>>3765062
40k now

>>3765140
oh no, i meant like how holo limits new gens to collabing only within their generation for a month

>>3764552
75% of her usual viewers when shes streaming in a new timezone is great? If most of her established viewerbase is suddenly not able to make her streams and shes still getting 75% of that then shes doing well. The reason euro timezone streams dont do that well is because theyre infrequent from p much any streamers other than ID branches, so theres no established viewerbase

>>3764238
What are you talking about? Elira will be EU queen if she doesn't change her timeslot

>>3765277
he probably didn't bother looking at her schedule

>>3765171
What generation?

The debuts were decent, much better than holoEN debut.

>>3763896
>>3763912
>>3763935
Can I get one (1) EN that doesn't stream at midnight -2am please

>>3765171
JP does, yeah. I don't know about the other branches.

i hope they could collab like this in the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jL4oDkXcw

>>3764880
Europoor here, Weebs are indeed very rare.

2/3 have reasonable eu times, wouldnt mind holo or niji just making a gen of eu based streamers though, its not as if jp and us timezone are lacking anymore

>>3765174
Why the hell would you settle for 75% of your usual viewers when you could go to your regular timeslot with 100% of your regular viewership

That doesn't make sense

>>3765374
>Noor
;_;

>>3765404
they're common in Italy, Spain and France, the places that people care about.

>>3765374
I think there's a decent chance they might end up fairly involved with the other branches. They both said in their debut stream that it was one of their goals to introduce more people to Nijisanji generally and I've already seen Elira promoting stuff from JP/ID like the upcoming mahjong tournament and IDs music.

Alright I watched the debuts, my thoughts

>Pomu
+ Nice intro
+ Obligatory lewdness is pretty cute'n'funny since she just hints at it rather than saying it outright
+ Decent voice
- Shit mic
Tbh she could have fitted into Holo

>Elira
+ Great voice
+ Very good singing
- Weird rigging, looks like a static cardboard-cutout just wiggling when she "moves"
- No intro
- Huntercuck
I fucking hate her design but that's besides the point

Honestly both of them were decent, sucks they got stuck in a meme company. Finana can get fucked, who the fuck cancels their debut stream? Can't believe she has the most subs despite this, what the fuck is wrong with nijiniggers?

>>3764780
Oh yeah? Try GMT+3.

>>3765484
saviorfags are flocking to Finana

There is just one question that bothers me a lot.
Will this thread be a dedicated thread for NijiEN?
Why not a global?
I just think that the only way for nijisanji to stay relevant on /vt/ is to have a global

>>3765484
Fina didn't get raped by Susan like the other two, that's the only reason she has more subs

>>3765512
That pathetically cute voice probably helps.

>>3765543
No idea why we're even having a thread split to be honest, Nijisanji is already dead as shit on veetee.

We failed to save Aloe from becoming a green triangle who won't properly debut. But we'll save Finana this time!

>>3765484
>just hints at it
>BIG PP ENERGY BIG PP ENERGY BIG PP ENERGY
Also
>starting with meme song because it's so chaotic and original!
>MUH CULTURED TASTES (some of them are actually good, but whatever)
>fucking loss meme in intro
And I hate her voice too.

>>3765563
I think EN discussion would drown out any JP discussion for a while

>>3765484
Fish is officially /here/, that’s why. Notice how she was the most straightforward one in the introduction stream and basically told Hana to fuck off with her teasing.

WTF Zhangs are watching NijiEN?
https://youtu.be/Yv_orgsOYgU

>>3764238
Europoors don’t donate and the small bump in views isn’t worth it.

>>3765582
That's not enough of a reason to have a complete split. Even right now, the threads are extremely slow, we'll be fine with existing side by side.
At worst the threads will be shit for a couple of days, but that's it.

>>3765543
Nijisanji Global General Roundtable or otherwise known as /nigger/

>>3765484
To be perfectly honest (you) should give them all at least one week (a month would be better) . It's impossible to say how good/bad they are just from what we saw.

>>3765570
Forgot punchable as fuck whore face, this :> smile alone makes me seethe

>>3763598
Expected pomu to be this boring, didn't expect fina to fuck up so bad; but I had better hopes for Elira.. all my dragoncoin went into waste. Pain.

>>3765543
If ID can manage to have a general there's zero reason EN can't. Nobody's going to stop you from occassionaly posting about other branches during EN dead hours, but splitting JP discussion between Nijisanji and a Nijisanji global isn't a good idea imo

>>3765618
His channel banner is literally the pic of most popular Taiwanese vtuber

>>3765484
>Tbh she could have fitted into Holo
She prefers Nijisanji, though.
>Finana can get fucked, who the fuck cancels their debut stream?
It was technical difficulties. Some OBS setting clashed with the pajeet coding in Youtube's chat and made her CPU burn.
>Can't believe she has the most subs despite this
On the day of the announcement, all three of them had their subs shaved off because YT found their fast growth suspicious or something, but while Pomu and Elira lost about 6K, Finana lost only about 600.

>>3765618
>Zhangs
Chang. They are taiwanese

>>3765624
These threads are slow right now because it's DEAD HOURS for the main topic of the thread. Global is what happens if you pack the JP and EN fanbase who have polarizing ideas about the opposing branch in one thread like sardines, a total shitshow.

>>3765639
Elira seems incredibly boring and not even in good Ina way. Can someone explain me what she is going for?

>>3764238
Anon The USA is one of the largest consumer markets next to China. No shit they are going to try and take advantage of that. We call you Yuropoors for a reason.

>>3765674
>>3765658
whoops sorry

>>3765624
>extremely slow
This thread is halfway to bump limit after not even two hours during dead hours, don't worry about thread speed, /hlgg/ is way too fucking fast and shouldn't be compared to any other thread

>>3765348
It helps that it was short instead of what felt like an entire day (with breaks in between granted)

Excuse me, I know who is mint and nova but which one is the fish again?

wait what happened with the fish?
I watched fairy and dragon and then went to sleep and when I wake up it's privated?
Did she show her fetish list on stream?

>>3765701
literally scroll up

>>3765648
I guess it will just stay split forever... which is not good really

>>3765543
I don't like hlgg thread speed
there's no reason we should have all 4 niji threads into 1 and start speedrunning them and inviting more tribalism in the thread than what holo raiders bring

>>3765352
Wait for Wave 2 then, anonchama

>>3765701
>he doesn't know
Kek

>>3765701
Yes, she also called Hana a nigger whore and started giving a schizo rant on the Epstein case.
Can't believe Finana did this.

>>3765543
“Nijisanji Global” would be a newfag magnet and after a year it would just be another /hlgg/. Not everyone wants threads with 300+ IP’s.

>>3765693

>/hlgg/ is way too fucking fast and shouldn't be compared to any other thread

Holofaggots win again

so now that the dust has settled, is Pomu HER or not?

>>3765724
Literally my only hope

>>3765775
>HER
stop using retarded hlgg memes

>>3765674
besides, aren't they just a different flavor of their mainland counterpart?

>>3765759
Believing the official narrative on the Epstein case is way more schizo than Finana's version.

>>3765719
Look at the speed of the Nijisanji JP and ID threads compared to this one, any joint thread would be 90% EN discussion and drown out anyone who wants to discuss other branches

>>3765660
>buy fake subs
>surprised when YT deleted them

>>3765759
Better than Elira endorsing slavery. You can't say that on stream.

>>3765688
Dude give a dragon more time, how can you judge her just from less than 3 hours of content?
Be reasonable people

>>3765769
That's not a good thing, those threads are fucking trash

>>3765688
She has high potential, she just didn't jump into some meme personality niche from the start.

Her voice is actually a reflection of this too, it's so normal and generic yet at the same time so pleasant to listen to.

>>3765816
i genuinely can't believe she chose to barrel straight into that

>>3765820
She managed to keep my interest for her guerilla stream so I think she's probably going to be fine.

>>3763935
Are you guys going to submit your keyboards?
I might just send a picture of my old shitty keyboard that I haven't touched in a while.

>>3765842
Says you faggot

Just because your threads die in 2 hours doesn't mean topics that blaze through 6 threads in the same time frame are suddenly "trash"

>>3765877
>guerilla stream
it's gruella now, dontcha know

Why are they all Indonesians?
You can tell by their accents.

I didn't watch the debuts and fon't think I will. They just create false expectations and the guerilla Elira did was far better in showcasing her than a 20 min script. This is why fish is #1, debuts are a debuff.

>>3765924
Yeah i got a very bland impression of elira in the debut but her freetalk she gave off way more personality than just mobile gamer girl who likes hxh

>>3765915
They’re actually Ukrainian, it’s painfully obvious.

>>3765901
I think the name global has become a bad name among the non-/hlgg/ browsers of /vt/

>>3765816
>>3765876
Okay, you've talked me into watching this debut.

>>3765812
>>3765563
>>3765632
>>3765648
>>3765722
>>3765768
Alright, I get it. It's a better ideas to keep it split.
Just please for the love of god keep the thread name the same. I want to make a bookmark.
Also if someone starts a thread with a different name, fucking ignore it.

I hope (you) will not fuck this up.

Friendly reminder that the biggest weeb country in the EU is France. There's even some manga and VNs that have French localization but not English. The English speaking population of EU isn't that interested in Japanese stuff and it's better to create a French branch rather than streaming at Euro hours

>>3765795
I don't know, anon. Finana's claims of fungus aliens from Yuggoth hijacking the bodies of political elites to usurp the demiurge was pretty crazy. Her saying that the brap audio clip was a cicada 3301 test is also pretty weird. Something was definitely fishy about her debut.
Not sure if I can trust this mermaid...

Poor JPs asking for a translation of the lyrics in the youtube comments for diamond city lights

>>3766032
Wow seems like she's a very fishy person

redpill me on Nova

>>3766094
trans

>>3766032
>the brap audio clip was a cicada 3301 test
kek

Pomu had a far better debut, but Elira has more mainstream normal day appeal. Fish is already locking the saviourfag crowd, let's see if she can ride this.

>>3766059
Did Ichikara really not provide jp subs? HoloID's song had english subs and even a japanese version

>>3763598
So what about that 3 special announcement thingy?

>>3766113
oggey

>>3766139
I think they got their hands full anon.

>>3765174
That'd only be great if she was trying to get more exposure. More varied viewers would help with that.

But she doesn't need to at 2.6m subs so why should she try to develop an EU viewer base? Its not like she'd get more money when she's only getting 75% of her usual.

So it seems like they're going to get something like puchisanji but with original scripts and voice acting instead of using clips from streams like they do for JP?

>>3764880
Sounds like you've never been to Düsseldorf. I've meet dozens of weebs at college alone.

>>3766170
Nijisanji bought some moon land for each girl from that scumbag boomer and will let them name it.

>>3765460
>>3766217
>Niji should consider streaming an EU times
>EU is impossible, Gura tried it and she only got 75% of her normal views
>That actually shows there's a market for EU times
>WHY SHOULD MY SHARK STREAM FOR EU REEEEEEE
Complete fucking brainlets, the pair of you.

>>3763639
Yikes... this comment didn't age well...

>>3766293
I just don’t like Europeans, simple as.

>>3766293
why stream at EU hours when there's more views to be had during NA hours?

>>3766139
they'll sing it with jap lyrics later on

>>3766024
Niji FR when?

>>3766293
Let's just hope that Elira will not change her timeslot.

>>3766293
Absolute retards, I agree
No wonder so many burgers are jobless with critical thinking skills like these

>>3766321
Doesn't that seem a bit short sighted? Especially in a NijiEN thread where they failed to spot the potential in a new market and they're now behind because of it.

>>3766293
Poster makes it seem like Gura getting 75% of her viewerbase at EU hours is better than getting 100% of her viewerbase at her regular hours

I mean Ina, and sometimes Kiara, already showed there is a market for EU hours. This wasn't the discussion to be had here

>>3766321
Because it's an almost entirely untapped market and that the views in one stream aren't equal to the views one may get after their reputation as an EU-friendly streamer has been established?

>>3766293
Europeans wouldn't watch HoloEN anyway since most Europeans don't like Americans. It's better to encourage more Japanese Holos to stream at night time like Korone and Watame.

>>3766381
don't try to argue with the retards anon

>>3763956
not really, it's a reasonable compromise between focusing on content and thanking superchatters, there are far more jewish methods. The dedicated superchat stream is pretty tame and done properly can be good content in of itself.

One thing I don't understand - why limit it to 15-20 minutes for a debut?

>>3766368
This is the NijiEN thread not the Gura thread(s), the discussion is about NijiEN, and specifically this part of it was about NjijEN streaming times.

I really hope these 3 can work out something truly original or innovative for once, because the western vtuber market is just creatively bankrupt right now.

Who's the flattest (cutest)?

>>3766423
Because they thought it was a good idea to do them all at once, it’s not like this would allow for very long streams.

>>3766368
>I mean Ina, and sometimes Kiara, already showed there is a market for EU hours. This wasn't the discussion to be had here
He is just baiting you faggots. No one is this dumb

>>3766423
They probably just want to get it done with quickly.

And tbf, there really isn't much to be done with Debut streams

>>3766293
Cover should be looking for find tubers to fill that market, not ask their currently most successful streamer to change her established market.

Streaming at EU times means not streaming at NA times. she can't do both at once (well she could but she'd probably wear herself out).

Cover should capitalize on EU as NA isn't the only western market. But thats about as far as this should go.

>>3766293
What people forget is that NA hours is primetime for us SEAniggers as well atm since we work from home now. EU hours is literally 2-6am for us.

>>3764176

A fairy-sized vtuber is perfect. Imagine the porn.

>>3766561
>imagine the porn
I actually can’t. 9cm isn’t much to work with.

Kind of wish they'd made the thumbnails for what is what stand out a bit more. Keep clicking on the wrong ones when I go back to hear the song

>>3764002
Talk about carried by a design. I wish they got actual talent like HoloEN did with experienced streamers and singers instead of nobody pre-debut vtubers.
Their models don't even have any hair physics and when they look upwards and they neck becomes 10 feet long because nothing else but their chin moves on the model makes me want to fucking combust.
I'll pass on these baby corporate chuuba fags, vshitjo is even better than this

>>3766591
its probably not 9cm or 156cm but the entire range in between considering "enhance" and the range indicator

>>3766591
Sounds like you lack IMAGINATION.

>>3766321
Because NA prime time is 1.5 times the viewers with 15 times the competition. For Gura streaming during EU hours is getting 75% of her potential viewers. For someone else it's getting 75% of their potential viewers and not having to compete with Gura for those viewers. Just consider how much other stuff was going on during LazuLight debuts because they picked NA and JP friendly timeslot.
Nijisanji could relatively easily establish presence in a big market with a European wave simply because everyone else is trying to get more revenue from concurrent viewers maxing in NA and Asia Pacific. NijiEN seems to be more about creating brand awareness on global scale than collecting profits at this point in time and it's not like EU branch would generate less income than KR or ID anyway. The way I see it it's not about the viability of the idea but about the capability to expand in NA and EU simultaneously. It doesn't have to be an either-or situation, but I'm not sure if Ichikara is willing to go on a rapid hiring spree after the Meiro shitshow.

>>3766829
Send her a marshmallow and ask how it works

>>3766423
because not everyone can watch a debut live and a 20 minute VOD is a lot easier to watch than an hour long one so it will get more views overall

>>3765698
Search Yui in archives. She was a vtuber who never officially made debut, her shtick was she was yakuza or something

>>3766293
If they wanted a European audience they would hire Europeans. Do you really think an American should have to inconvenience them self long term just to stream for Euros when they already get plenty of viewers streaming at times that are good for them?

>>3766995
They aren't getting plenty of views. Their debuts didn't breach 15k.

>>3766808
2 of the girls are experienced streamers who had foot in the indie scene, one of them is the one in the image you're replying to, what the fuck are you talking about.

>>3767027
Do really belev it's going to be any different if they steamed EU hours?

>>3767027
I think only ever watching the top 0.1% of EN vtubers scewed your perspective a bit.

Who gonna stream next?

>>3767074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0KSfSf7BuQ

>>3767054
some holofags are too retarded to view things outside their bubble and probably too retarded to even reason with sadly

>>3766423
because debuts are retarded in the first place, so the shorter they are, the best. Although I agree that it should be 30 minutes, idk why they chose 20.

>>3767027
Live. Both are about to break 100k in few hours tho

>>3767054
Hololive warped how many people see vtubers. They think it's the same for every agency and vtuber.

>>3766423
because 40 minutes of debuts are just uhhh uhmmm ahahaha ... and other useless nonsense

I love saying Pomu Puff

>>3767074
Think the order should be Elira then Pomu then Finally one after the other tonight looking at the schedules.

>>3767127
It ended up being too rushed, 30 would've been perfect but it's easier to see that in hindsight than before

Let's say the next wave is from EU. Which country would you want them to be from?

>>3764238
8-11pm GMT is literally perfect, what are you on about

>>3767175
Poland.

>>3766591

Being 9 cm gives even more to work with, Anonchama.

>>3767175
Ruskies and Spics should be safe bets

I'd like a Scottish or an Irish for the accent though

>>3767175
Netherlands

>>3767106
My guess is that they're trying shit out with NijiEN. If it proved successful they would try to do this kind of format for all debuts to come.
However, with Finana's technical difficulties ultimately delaying her debut entirely they'll probably revert it back to 30 minutes debut.

>>3767175
british, scottish, irish, without a doubt not any german speaking country, only english natives are funny entertainers.

>>3767175
Mussolini

>>3767175
France, Scotland and any country with an appealing accent

>>3767175
Iceland.

>>3767224
>France
>appealing accent
hon hon hon

>>3767205
>spics
>EU
What?

>>3767175
Spain / Portugal
Swiss
German / French
British
Russian

>>3767135
simple and fun to say, good choice for a name

>>3767175
Ruskies simply for how chaotic their collabs would be
Brits, German and Scottish would be nice too

>>3767175
Israel :^)

>>3767253
Where do you think Hispania is?

>>3767175
Swiss, German, French, British, and Russian. Though, I'd really like someone British.

>>3766987
Is she the one who was describing herself as a hololive reject?

>>3767281
>spic
>a contemptuous term for a Spanish-speaking person from Central or South America or the Caribbean.

>>3767175
Poland

>>3767175
France, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands are extremely safe picks and easy for other ESL to understand
Germans, UK, Spain, Scandinavians and Slovenian are some ok picks, but they can prove to be difficult to listen to due to accents or geopolitical shit
Portugal, Balkans, Eastern block and others would just be a shitshow

>>3767313
Go easy on them anon. They are clearly an American whose entire geographical knowledge comes from grand strategy games.

>>3767279
Imagine the shitshow right now if there was a prominent Israeli vtuber?

>>3763956
Worked for Kiara.

>>3767366
Why are yuropoors like this?

>>3767313
>Spic (also spelled spick) is an ethnic slur used in the United States for people from Spanish-speaking countries, especially those in Latin America.
>A highly offensive term referring to a Spanish-speaking person from Mexico, Central or South America, Spain, or Portugal

>>3767350
Denmark literally is Scandinavia though

>>3767135
Same! I also love thinking about Pomu Puff!

>>3764768
Bullshit. Europe simply has no tipping and simping culture.

Do you think many people still interested watching Finna redebut?

>>3766293
>implying these 75% aren't mostly americans anyway

would you say the debuts were a bust or a success?

>>3767477
I think the amount is doubled thanks to muh saviorfagism.

>>3767413
Spic is a mulatto. I wouldn’t use it to refer to a Spaniard or Portuguese because they’re mostly European.

>>3767477
Don't underestimate saviorfags.

>>3767451
Denmark is German :^) Sweden can keep the north part.

>>3767495
They have better numbers than indies, I guess.

>>3767497
>Spic is a mulatto. I wouldn’t use it to refer to a Spaniard or Portuguese because they’re mostly European.
>mostly european
Africa begins at the elbe

>>3767135
i've beem thinking of puffing those pomus if you catch my drift

>>3767175
Estonia

>>3767175
Andorra

>>3767495
Only 8k until fish gets her alt outfit let's gooooo!

>>3767279
Jewish Zionist chuuba when

>>3767175
Andorra, Luxembourg, Monaco, San Marino, the Vatican and Liechtenstein

>>3767477
Considering she'll be debuting alone, my guess is over 20k people

>>3767477
I'd be genuinely happy with 10k.

>>3767175
I'll take one Romanian vampire please.

>>3767495
Elira is really catching up.

>>3767175
Luxembourg. They literally speak three most prominent European languages fluently

>>3767564
She will get there before the debut at this rate.

>>3767585
>Romanians
no more Romanians

>>3766362
It's not really shortsighted no. They don't have enough livers to take up all the NA time slots so why bother having one that streams primarily at EU times knowing they could be more successful streaming to NA?

If it were HoloEN where there's 5 of them fighting for time slots then sure there's a niche for Kiara and Ina to pander to euros, but NijiEN is too small to worry about that. Maybe it'll be a good idea for the next batch to have 1-2 EU-friendly streamers though but they'll suffer since euros don't superchat.

>>3767175
Cute slav sluts.

>>3767593
What, all 12 of them?

>>3767602
what's the problem with Romanians

>>3767585
>I'll take one Romanian
I'd love to see that

>>3767495
Ok for a nobody company. Niji is almost unknown on EN scene. With some time and more generations they can surpass Vshojo.

>>3767624
Hitler was right about the gypsies.

>>3767624
see >>3767642

>>3765820
These are hired to be professionals. They go through an audition process and explain why they have the experience for a job.
I'm tired of people eating up corporate garbage and then pampering them when it's all for the money gain, they wanted to be idols with free money and promotion and this is how hard they're willing to work for it.

>>3764238
Euros are the Chinese of America

>>3767620
do you really want a niji who's only joke is "lmao booze"? because that's all slavs have without getting into nationalism and politics

>>3767605
Burger timeslots are already packed. EU times are empty.

>>3767676
wtf that doesn't make any sense

>>3767678
Yes.

>>3767678
You really don't know much.

>>3767675
>Explain why they have experience for a job
>Nijisanji has had history of hiring people with 0 streaming experience

Faggot, explain yourself

>>3767672
huh
Any clips of her? I want to figure out her region from her accent.

/euvt/ - European Vtubers

>>3767678
slavs are strategybros' last line of defense

>>3767495
I think they did pretty well, ignoring Finana's debut being delayed. They'll reach 100k subs by the end of the month which is significantly more successful than even NijiJP who usually take 2-3 months to reach that.

>>3767683
Not true, EU timeslots often have a bunch of JP Holos and Nijis doing endurance streams and Kiara/Ina often stream during those times too. Competing there vs competing against Ame/Gura for NA hours really doesn't make much of a difference. At least if they all stream around the NA time slots they can organize collabs more easily with other EN vtubers and with eachother.

>>3767495
Above 10k live viewers and 30-40k subs after debut is a respectable number, and haven't seen anyone outside HoloEN break this kind of number. So yeah, pretty much a successful start. Ichikara seems determined to go all out on this branch specifically so I don't think anyone need to worry if they will pull out an IN again

Romanian vampire loli would be great.

Why do Euros and Burgers hate each other so much?

>>3767760
very few people want to watch 20+ year old strategy games anon

>>3767678
>lmao boooze XD guys tripaloski adidas :DDDDDD
it's all so tiresome

>>3767793
Burgers want everything to be about themselves. Same reason why they seethe about China so much.

>>3767768
HoloID2.
If Vshoujo had a debut process it's more than plausible they'd get those sort of numbers for a new gen.
Tranny shark got them from just twitter marketing.
Code Miko pulled them.

>>3767692
A country that just seethes about another country all day?

>>3767793
they made fun of each other too often

>>3765876
Either way it's funny. Being reminded of those kids at like the mall or airport with those leashes is always hilarious

>>3767803

Layla is our only hope

>>3767814
>Adidas

Faggot it's not the 90s anymore. And eastern Europe has lower alcoholism than Japan these days.

>>3767848
Yeah totally because burgers are the ones bitching about not being pandered to kek.

>>3767495
Dang Pendora is catching up,i think those clips are working
On other sides it seems most clippers have no interest with Pomu lol

>>3767175
Vatican

>>3767848
Nice deflection, eurofag.

>>3767848
You care so much holy shit

>>3767890
you're not very bright, are you anon?

I really wish they got someone who has Mito's level of storytelling later down the line.

>>3767622
613,894

>>3767916
Dragoncoin inclining baby!

>>3767890
Source: your ass

>>3767924
amerimutts deserve the rope

Elira's rigging is so weird. She looks very stiff, but she's not stiff at the same time.

>>3767992
>tfw not on that list
I guess I have work to do

>>3767992
>South Korea
gooks don't look...

>>3768027
Having to center 2 sets of eyes probably didn't help it much.

>>3767651
this is the most retarded take yet. Niji, Vshojo and Holo are the most known Vtuber companies.
what the fuck else even is there?

>>3767495
I thought they were quite good. I had a fun time watching them at least. The main channel stream hosts did a decent job of keeping things light hearted and entertaining given they were suddenly handed 30 minutes of dead air just to deal with it in front of 10k+ people unexpectedly. The song and MV seems to have made a statement.

>>3768172
Niji is only known in Japan. And yes it's way more popular than Holo in Japan. But outside of it they're literal whos. Only Holo and VS have any kind of global reach.

>>3767651
>almost unknown
>paid Lost Pause and other Youtubers to shill their clips
>paid clippers to translate their clips
>heralded by Nijiniggers as the better company because "they routinely mog Hololive in Japan"
>spent money on Youtube ads to shill your new project

Imagine spending all that money on marketing and your company is still a literal who to most Westerners

Kek

>>3768261
Yeah they didn't have chink clippers to propel them in west for free

>>3768261
>all that money
It probably didn't cost them much. Even Youtube ads are cheap if you go for gaming related tags.

>>3767495
Somewhat of a bust but it's not like it really matters, this coming month is what matters most.

>>3768323
Holofaggots can't stop winning

>>3763935
>>3763956
I think fish will be the idol-ist streamer in this batch and only pandering to GFEfags. Big yike for me

>>3768430
I don't know shit about Nijisanji. Is it a virtual idol company or a vtuber entertainment company?

>>3767651
found out first about nijisanji before hololive
i have brainworms from vocaloid and their utaite works hooked me in

>>3768472
Yes

>>3768472
entertainment company but they can choose their niche

>>3768222
>"And yes it's way more popular than Holo in Japan."

People still believe this?

>>3767718
So people are freaking out over inexperienced nobodies? Even worse than I thought. JP fags get excited over anything that can hardly blink.

>>3768222
I'm literally posting this board as a casual vtuber fan and even I know Niji please talk to people for once in your life if you think this is even somewhat correct

>>3768666
If you're posting on this board you're not a casual vtuber fan

>>3764565
>what the fuck is her problem?

A fish gone missing

>>3768596
half of their roster are glorified indies but their biggest hitters pull much bigger numbers than holos

>>3765058
>>3765171
depends on the branch, it seems like they're going to go solo for a week then do a collab stream at the end of the week. I'd imagine that they'll do international collaborations after their gen collabs. The Korean branch does a collab right after their debut and after that they can do collabs with their senpais.

>>3768430
>doing GFE
>while in nijisanji
how will they prevent males collab from ruining their GFE? i don't think its gonna work

>>3768886
they can just choose to not collab with males

>>3768982
>they can choose not to collab with males
>the males are the big hitters of Nijisanji

You just want them to fail, don't you Anon-chama

>>3767495
I’d say it was successful so far, especially with how Elira held her own during the guerrilla stream with a fair bit of donos. Time will tell in the long run, but I expected far worse and I’m glad the debut streams are already nearing 10k

>>3767495
This numbers takes me back to late 2019 debut numbers, basically Hoshikawa starting numbers.

>>3769032
I mean is there an alternative if they want to do GFE?

>>3768596
Of course. Why wouldn't they?

>>3769032
>A male is the biggest hitter of Nijisanji

>>3768886
They are not forced into collabs. Lulu is a notorious sololiver. She collabed with males like twice, one time was her introduction to MHW back in 2019 and the other was for a Fall Guys tournament. The latter caused a sperg out since she had a reputation among unicorns by that point.

>>3769198
that interesting, i guess if fish want to go GFE route i can gosling for her. otherwise im just going to watch her normally

>>3769177
yes?

>>3769177
Ah yes, you're right, Kuzuha identifies as non-binary transgender attack helicopter

>This thread
>baits literally everywhere
>retards replying to bait posts
>faggots arguing about retarded and irrelevant shit
God fucking damnit, this thread is a literal trash. Even /hlgg/ is not that fucking retarded during the dead hours.

Eli you lazy dragon fuck, start streaming so this animals will have something to talk about.

>>3768886
Nah, they can choose to not collab with male as much as possible like Lulu, Lulu is one of example of GFEfags pandering and there's no surprise her fanbase are very similar to holo's fanbase in Japan and she's popular with holofags in the west

>>3769375
>A
>all of them

>>3769419
Welcome to no stream hours in a thread. No one in EN is live so fans, onlookers, and shitposters are reclining in their chair shooting the shit, pretending that this is their blog

>>3764880
>I've literally never met a weeb IRL
>t. German

Weebs tend to be more stealthy here. Sometimes you need to meet the right people and crack their outer shell first to get to their weeby core, applies to school, college and work equally from my experience.


>>3766256
Düsseldorf is weeb central to be fair though with its large japanese community and little Tokyo. Could look much different in other states or once you look at cities that are a bit more far out.

>>3769554
yeah everyone is a closet weeb there

Pomu is awake

>>3769488
bro you're out of arguments, just go take a walk or something

>>3768430
Speaking of which I've checked official reddit and all three of them made posts there. Except that both Pomu and Elira have also replied to some comments and to Akane's post about EN while Finana ignored any interactions. Not a redditfag but that's not a very good impression for me.

>>3769722
Is Finana going to be the pariah of NijiEN?

>>3769722
(by "not a redditfag" I've meant that I rarely visit their subreddit only to check "official post" and "liver post" flairs)

>>3769831
Anon she is 33.3% of her gen. You cannot be an outcast in such a small group maybe .

>>3768858
>>3769149
>"Of course. Why wouldn't they?"

Because it hasn't been true for a while? Even on 5ch, people were making fun of the idea that Holo is less popular in Japan, especially when Holo got a bigger boost during GW than Niji.

>>3769621
There's no argument, you are just factually incorrect.
A male, singular, is at the top of Nijisanji.
In general males in Nijisanji do not do better than the females.

>>3770077
How do these numbers relate to the relevance in Japan?

>>3770077
>774.inc got a higher boost than Cover or Ichikara

Brb, investing in Renecoin

>>3769722
Duh, she spends her time here shitposting

>>3769722
GFEfags are on twitter, twitch and 4chan, reddit is all unityfag

>>3770077
Upd8 got the biggest growth rate, does that mean they are the most popular in Japan?