/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

What did we learn last thread /#/?

>>37510055
Recent clip numbers
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https://youtu.be/HA1yLiZj4EU
RYEEEE... WHY...

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>110,949: Subaru (Hololive)
>71,756: Suisei (Hololive)
>58,742: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>38,151: Pekora (Hololive)
>34,195: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,268: Fubuki (Hololive)
>30,003: Noel (Hololive)
>27,127: Miko (Hololive)
>24,368: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,778: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>19,379: Ui (Indie)
>17,636: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,227: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>16,740: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,065: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,946: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,877: Met (774 inc)
>14,588: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,837: Korone (Hololive)
>13,531: Mio (Hololive)
>13,485: Luca (Nijisanji)
>12,603: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>11,620: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,496: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,164: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,743: Ema (VSPO)
>10,655: Matsukai (Nijisanji)
>10,384: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,270: Furen (Nijisanji)

>>37510071
that schizos are retarded

>King 50k at SV on a 3-way split view
Glad it's now clear that He stands well above everyone else including the combined forces of Holo's 'first army' when playing the same game.
Highest Pokemon SV stream btw

YOU GUYS TOLD ME HAACHAMA WAS A FUCKING MONKEY, THIS IS A DEER

>>37510110
Will Rye poster finally leave this thread

>>37510110
Can't believe we've concluded the rye arc with her joining a Jew corp... Literally a bad ending.

>>37510096
retardness cannot be cured

>>37510141
hello The Last Samurai schizo, we were talking about you on the last thread

>>37510024
>what's the endgame here
pic related
i thought it was fake but after that shitposting ban spree here around the selen outfit reveal a few months backand the fact that a couple of nijien posters also supposedly disappeared around the same 3 day time period proved otherwise.
that and the lucub schizo here.

AHAHAHAHAHA!

>>37510135
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,949 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Lamy, Suisei
1x: Flare, Koyori, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
212x: Hololive
99x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
18x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>37510110
>gura killer

>>37510110
Im surprised this i rye and not the leprechaun one. Also did her bf and her russian paypig get exposed yet?

>>37510184
They shit the thread but as soon as theyre gone, it goes back to normal as if they didnt exist

>>37510096
I will never be able to take EN shit talks seriously anymore ...
>>37443095
>>37443018
>>37440881
>>37440703

>>37510184
no wonder they complain about their thread being shit if they have people like that

interesting, kobo fifa stream

>>37510110
>Idolcorp wont allow her to mention firearms in her interests
bad ending indeed

Kuzuha new peak at 51k.
Seriously, things aren't looking that good for holos here.....

>>37510185
Drop in viewership doesn't matter btw. Sales are the same btw.

>>37510217
SIUUUUU

>>37510110
Confirmed yet? I missed the debut. Anyone on the graduated vtuber list?

>>37510110
Her face kinda looks like Rushia to me bros

>>37510110
Rye schizo, are you here? How are you feeling?

>>37510211
i mean

>>37510185
After the horrible performance of that Greedy song, she'll take what she can get.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>37510217
KOBO TEMPEST IS BACK

>>37510096
Suikeks are pathetic

https://p2y.jp/hololive-production-streaming-rule-change-has-had-no-clear-effect-on-holostars-and-has-caused-adverse-side-effects/
>overlap rule brings more harm than good
oh no sisters even the vtuber tabloid sites are pointing it out

>>37510244
Voice on debut, confirmed unless they got someone who sounds exactly like her.

>>37508253
Called her a fucking retard that is destroying hololive with multiple data points proving it, most of EN including management didn't appreciate him disliking the direction EN is moving into but Kronii realized the reality
Gura posted "lol" after he posted it

>13k Getto

>Official Pokemon Scarlet/Violet Stream Ranking
1. KUZUHA 51K
2. Miko 44k
3. Pekora 38k
4. Fubuki 31k
5. Korone 28k

>>37510277
>using that site
might as well cite dexerto as a reliable source of information as well anon.

>>37510110
What a downgrade.

>>37510217
>overlapping ingerland vs Iran
rip 10k

>>37510276
you didn't run away after all the "no matter the stream or time" posts? i wish i didn't care about looking like a fucking moron that much, want people to post that marine stream again?

>>37510277
None can really be shocked by this right?

>>37510191
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
205x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
29x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
20x: Marine
14x: Subaru
12x: Suisei
11x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Fubuki
4x: Aqua, Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
209x: Hololive
98x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro
1x: Holostars, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
33x: Miko, Subaru
32x: Pekora
26x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Fubuki, Hayato, Iroha, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>37510217
So she's aiming for EU audience?

>>37510211
Nijifags are a cancer.

>>37510277
No shit

>>37510228
Why?
Not like Hololive never have a 60k collab before

>>37510352
probably the rabid indog football fans

Imagine mass bans of everyone in niji threads

>>37510323
I already destroyed you cucks last thread

>>37510352
indo has a big football following

>>37510352
>aiming for EU
Dude Indogs love Football than anythign else
>They kill each other for it BTW

>>37510364

>>37510362
why do you think we call them nijiniggers?

>>37510277
/#/'s called it out before them

>>37510035
>make comment
>suddenly no one knows what anon's talking about
who are you talking to?

>>37510217
SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>37510228
>>37510191
>>2022 GOLDS
>>PER COMPANY
>212x: Hololive
>99x: Nijisanji
>6x: Indie, Neo Porte
>1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>>37510277
I think only Cover doesn’t realize this

>>37510352
Indog hooligans killing each other because of soccer

>>37510414
why do you feel called out anon, did you say something retarded

>>37510185
KEK, no way!

Huh, Mori likes pachinko?

>King Pokemon collab is on par with YGO tournament final
King is unironically too great for Niji

>>37510397
Well yeah?
Killing over it is pretty common in Europe, is it different in Americas?

>>37510376
>>37510395
>>37510397
>indos love football
>have 275m people
>this happens

>>37510438
if you check what i posted, i don't know what the fuck he's talking about. i was gonna post it in the thread before it died. of you know, do tell

https://youtu.be/jAFXucLhV-s
https://youtu.be/jAFXucLhV-s
https://youtu.be/jAFXucLhV-s
FUTBOLL

>>37510185
>100k already!!?
How the mighty have fallen, celebrating 100k view…

>>37510217
asserting her dominance as the best striker

>>37510185
Now this is really pathetic. Suisei gets 100k after like 30 minutes

>>37510483
did they murder the players?

>>37510495
Inb4 50k

>>37510483
i mean flips love basketball but the national team sucks ass.

>>37510352
Football is big in most countries burgerkun

>>37510502
i mean, it shows that's she's aware of it and readjusting to her current level, it doesn't stop it from being sad but i feel like it's better than pretending you're still huge

>>37510510
Nigga that is the average stream VOD of First Army - tier

>>37510228
Nijikeks deserve the rope

>>37510487
Anons were talking about the regular schizos and how one of them fucked up yesterday by forgetting to remove his name and got exposed as a nijifag who likes to start the en vs jp timeloops.
Tale as old as time in these threads anon.

>>37510536
Self awareness is the first step to recovery.

>>37510282
>>37510244
Confirmed. Voice and personality matches. Some admin also linked her to Rye's discord and @everyone

>>37510277
Wasn't this a rule they implemented after Tempus was created?

Why are there so many Holo collab lately? Even Pekora pushed out more collabs than usual

>>37510352
Football is the most popular sport in the world burgerchama

>>37510580
they made it a official rule before the uproar 3d debut

I wonder if Mori regrets alienating her core fanbase

Haachama surely got some cute assets for her zatsu.
She's getting 4k on it too, I'm impressed, she was getting less than that with her EN Minecraft lately.
I wonder if she readjusted her mindset to understand the current disconnect between the EN audience and the JP streaming scene

>>37510591
schedule is getting looser. so the talents are more free than before

>>37510595
>>37510580
No they apply it to the whole company after Uproar 3D. It exist before but only apply to your own branch

this is some "Baby's first pixiv fanart" tier shit

>>37510591
>Why are there so many Holo collab lately?
Pandemics no longer forcing people to stay home, girls are taking advantage to hang out more on and off stream

>>37510580
>Wasn't this a rule they implemented after Tempus was created?
>>37510595
>they made it a official rule before the uproar 3d debut
They didn't just made it official, they expanded the
>no overlap of Debuts and 3D Debuts inside branch
to
>no overlap of Debuts and 3D Debuts inside branch, across branches and across agencies (Hololive and Holostars)

FGO sure has reclined...

>>37510591
japan finally fully ended covid restrictions so it's less of a hassle to offcollab

>>37510610
That would be weird considering out of all the jp holos she is the one that is the most reliant on esl/eop audience due to her content and her phases.

Nijifags celebrating a 7k difference for this year's Pokémon when they lost highest Pokémon stream for 2 years already. Kuzuha isn't even going solo.

>>37510610
4k on a zatsu that she started during mid slot?
fucking laplus can barely get 7k...fucking hell laplus reclined

>>37510652
Well why would anyone watch FGO when there’s multiple collabs going on at the same time?
I still hope she won’t drop it just cause I want to watch a chuuba playing it and she’s my only hope

>>37510591
january and february tend to be slow months since ad rev goes down and it's after holidays, and all the stuff for november/december should be done already, so probably more free time

>>37510661
Niji gold? Niji gold!

>>37510661
They have to take what little they can get

>>37510652
thats what happens with games reliant on gacha anon
no gacha no numbers

just ignore the baits anon, it's that easy

>>37510635
The Chinese fanartists werent happy when they saw it

Honestly, I'm afraid Cover would take drastic measures about the whole streaming rules thing. I don't want them to force the girls to raid the stars streams.

>>37510635
Can we be sure it not tracing other art.

>>37510635
This unironically look like AI art

>>37510610
the only times she streams during decent times she does a zatsu and starts 30 minutes after the beginning of the slot kek

>>37510709

>>37510709
That would be funny

>>37510709
i can't believe cover is gonna force them to give the stars daily blowjobs

>>37510610
>Pretended to be EN
>Recline like EN

>>37510700
anon if you ignore the baits people will start thinking they are unironic and reply to it seriously, and before you know it the entire thread is baits

>>37510709
I mean if they force the girls to do that then miyabi might unironically get grimmied.

>>37510709
They not public company like niji, they dont need to constantly fake their number of viewers.

>>37510762
People reply to the bait seriously anyway

>>37510709
that would make for some hilarious graphs

>>37510737
this >>37510495 is even worse

>>37510709
They can’t even get the girls to raid each other

>>37510758
nah its more like
>act like a niji
>get niji numbers
same thing happened with kiara

>>37510754
Sora, Fubuki, Suisei and Matsuri does that already. Didn't even have to force them.

https://youtu.be/PD10n3k5Ld8

>>37510758
this but unironically, every single recline that happened to EN happened to haachama first, from ccv, to subs, to likes, to vod views, to video views.
I told you all, I said that her "recline" is that of EN but you all called me a schizo

>>37510709
Lmao, they don't even raid between themselves

>latest mv already on the path to do better than greedy
granted it has a lot of buffs but are the numbers finally back on mori's side?

>>37510819
>>37510805

>>37510794
the difference is that it isn't official art

>>37510758
Ludwig already proved culls happen to the EN scene yesterday so you can’t work around this anymore anon

>>37510826
Beating Greedy is not a big achievement. Give her a week and we will talk

>>37510805
>>37510838
that makes zero sense.

How did King get 53k on fucking pokemon??!!
Even Miko is sub20k right now.

>>37510772
>>37510778
>>37510791
>>37510804
>>37510822
No what I meant is for future stars debut and 3D debuts, they'll ask the girls to raid into those streams rather than having people ignore it.

>>37510822
Hologirl smart, niji lost viewers cuz they a dumbass forcing viewers to watch people iluna. Thx iluna for existing.

>>37510853
Well unless Susan consistently increase the cull, downward trend is downward trend anon

>>37510866
he's playing with his apex team

Best site to track song number?

>>37510853
>happen to the EN scene
HoloKR when?
HoloES when?

>>37510866
4men collab challenge

>>37510866
First stream + faggots to collab with + no nijibox (no overlap)

>>37510866
Collab bro
All Holo Pokémon stream are solo so far with the only collab being impromptu Miko-FBK collab

>>37510855
Akai made the Haachama character since she wanted to stream like a Niji talent since they were popular back then she said so on a stream.

>>37510924

>>37510939
Die frognigger

>>37510597
In the same way a criminal regrets getting caught rather than regret commiting the crime in the first place.

>>37510888
I mean cull + no support from the main branch will always result in a downward trend due to a snwoball effect.

>>37510866
No competition
First time

>>37510876
Like I said, they can’t even get the girls to do that between themselves

>>37510939
>frogposter
NTA but kill yourself

>>37510392
Good job guys

>>37510866
I honestly thought the 4 pov collab would've caused him to get lower number instead. Looks like his fanbase doesn't overlap much

>>37510915
Plus the company to help him so as to not make him look bad Infront of nintendo

Seriously, I was joking about farms, but why do they feel the need to do it if it was true? I mean, how hard is it for Japanese sponsors to look for consistency and averages of a few samples rather than peaks of a certain stream.

>imagine someone calling that Hololive streamer "Akai" and pretending to know anything about anything

>>37510924
none of the nijis ever acted the same way haachama acted during her prime haachama phase, retard

>>37510778
If they were a public company, stars would unironically be disbanded. It makes no sense business-wise to keep the stars. All of those lost opportunity cost to incline the girls' numbers

>>37510853
Clip?

I forgot to check earlier but both Suisei's and Subaru's new orisong is doing good. Bonus IRyS and Nene. and notAzki

>>37510973
Die wojaknigger

>>37510939
anon she said so herself on stream

>>37510924
>akai

>>37510976
This look natural tho, maybe the weird thumbnail attract people atention

>>37510924
Who the fuck calls Haachama or Haato "Akai"?

>>37510981
prime haachama was just discount fumino tamaki anon.

>>37510987
Are their merch sales worse than the girls?

>>37510987
Nah if they we public, Id cut off their salaries if they don't satisfy certain performances and accelerate the branch to 20 members. Honestly, that fucking branch hasn't gotten to 20 after 4 fucking years.

>>37511034
If it were public they would literally get cut off until they retire or quit anon.

There is nothing wrong with Akai.

>>37511027
>Natural
Just look at the time. It's the 10 minute worm that we haven't seen in a while. Those sudden jumps is always suspicious to me when I see niji streams. It's only them that gets this.

>>37511032
I love how people think that "acting schizophrenic'" is just binary
they couldn't be more different

>>37511034
>accelerate the branch to 20 members
Do you want them to go from 3 view to 2 view?

>>37510994
Imagine if irys shilling her song hard like suisei

How do you do, fellow Hol Olive enjoyers! What about that Akai stream today, huh?
But in all seriousness, we can't let that madman with the nuclear cooking codes!

>>37511086
The box exists when there's 20 members anon. It's true for Hololive, they got popular after Gen 4.

>>37510855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZKzIFLJlyM

>>37510635
It's not bad

>>37511077
Well no Z, no sus movement, that is natural number to me.
Let’s not jump into conclusion without solid proof

>>37511063
They will get the niji treatment, low performances get no salaries or support.

>>37511086
Longer times between debuts doesn't prevent that

Pekora is replace by lui? Botan, towa and lui now?

>Miko above Pekora now
It’s over….

>>37511126
but it's not "offical art, frame it and sell it for 50 dollars" tier either

Miko just beat Pekora's peak to bronze, I hope she never plays FGO again unless she's doing gacha

>>37511125
>clipnigger
truly this akai girl from hol o livee is a menace! a menace I say!

Will Gura overlap IRyS' return stream on Wednesday?

>>37510277
to be honest its gotta be a real morale breaker for holostars having this shoved in your face so hard. Cover's given them literally no cope excuse for it, they have to accept the fanbase just doesn't want them instead of coping that the girls are just preferred and they'd pick them if there was no one else.

>>37511140
Meego too strong

>>37511128
kek anon, that snake girl from prism also got botted to ~40k and her ccv was smooth as fuck

>>37511159
Too bad anon, this is her new debuff arc to mess with us

>>37511034
>accelerate
No, what would happen is they will give less and less support to them gradually. Start by firing half of the managers and reduce the budget for the stars. No new gen unless numbers improve.

>>37511163
>Its ok for a jp memeber to shit on the idol route.
Haachama is literally patient 0 for all the problems in hololive.

>>37511171
Cover would just act like this isn't happening

>>37510990
ccv fake number

>>37511185
nigger we didn't have any graphs from her but i watched live and her ccv was constantly jumping around all over the place

>>37511159
Just give it straight to me bro, does Pekora have a chance at all in the bronze race? She always either too strong or too weak for bronze

>>37510277
Stupid rules. Why would they think that people would watch the stars if no holojp is streaming? Seriously, do they have the data to back it up? Like fanbase overlaps or something?

>>37511240
kek no it wasnt, go check the # archives

>>37511171
stars already know and a lot of them accept majority of the fanbase wants the girls anon.
I even buy the rrat that shinove quit because he was against the forced push of the boys since he knows it wont get them any numbers but will only result to them getting harrassed like in the past.

>>37511210
Does this have any effect on SC, or merch? Does the low numbers scare away sponsors?

>>37511136
Well it's not the only cause for sure. But look at nijisanji, unless you're luxiem or kobo, new audience doesn't just show up out of thin air. Most likely they're just gonna cannibilize already existing fans

>>37510277
this website takes like 2 minutes to open for me

>>37511272
>Why would they think that people would watch the stars if no holojp is streaming?
Well they are not entirely wrong, if holojp overlaps them I doubt any of those streams could reach 5k ccv
That said, fuck them for implementing this policy.

>>37511120
>they got popular after Gen 4.
For the record the Azur Lane collab came before Gen 4 debut.
The "proto-box" in 2019 had 20 people tho: 5 in each of Gen 1, 2 and 3, 3 in Gamers, Sora and Roboco.
Miko and Suisei were part of the box and became part of the agency too, same for AZKi.

There is nothing particular about the number 20 tho.
VSPO built their own internal box (separated from the FPS box) and even today they're only 16 with 5 of them being moderately recent additions.
Wanna know what VSPO did that HoloEN didn't?
>engage in branch wide regular collaborative activities
I don't have the numbers here so this might be a speculation, but based on observation I think VSPO girls played more Minecraft among themselves since Council debuted than the HoloEN girls did.
You can't have a box if the girls aren't interacting on a regular basis.

>>37510876
the day they do that is the day holostars 3d debuts get flooded by negative comments telling them to fuck off.

>>37511299
Plausible rrat

>>37511302
>Does the low numbers scare away sponsors?
Nope because the first thing sponsors look at youtube for sponsorship is subs.

>>37511302
if you fuck with ccv too much it will scare away the viewers instead

>>37511247
It's over for pekora..

>>37511247
Chance, sure. But it's unlikely as it's probably the hardest category since it's usually the most contested.

>>37511302
nope because low ccv numbers is sometimes good for sponsors since they can get people cheaper.

>>37511364
She survived cold chicken, she is fine

Another niji win?
Why is hololive so weak this month?

>>37511332
the "proto-box" you are talking of literally didnt exist and only existed after jp 3 and solidified at in between 4 and 5.

>>37511364
Speaking of which how dead is Pebot? Does Pekora hate Lui?

So what would be a 'success' state for the new small corpos?

Holy shit i was just about to say there's less shitpost than i thought and then that guy showed up

Damn, another win for Nijisanji. I love it when the little guy beats the odds and snags a rare victory. Underdogs stories are much more entertaining.

>>37511424
towa's been collabing too much with males, pekora is keeping her distance until she cools off

>>37511445
Which ones? EN, JP, Sea?

>>37511424
They are still the cooperate pushed group. I have no idea who Pekora is even close with, she have collab with random Holo all the time on a whim but never a long lasting relationship, at least on stream

>>37511455
KEK

>>37511409
Nope. It's all over now she will slowly but surely recline.

>>37511445
Consistent high 3 view solo streams.

>>37511445
Rye is gonna double her viewers I think. No sure about the leprechaun

>>37511445
stable 300-500 ccv, when one chuuba who can get 1k once in a while

>>37511302
Major sponsors will ask for metrics that actually matter - those aren't visible for public (i.e: processed CCV, their CTR / engagement rate, etc.), so the cull doesn't really matter.

>>37511455
Agree Im actually happy an indie company wins the gold for once, shows that the vtubing scene is alive and well.

Miko has pretty good synergy with the Pokemon game, more than Pekora honestly, I guess its the baby in her coming out, it sounds like she's looking at the pokemon in wonder like a child seeing it for the 1st time. It makes watching it less boring too to watch her reactions. Especially with Hogechi, its heartwarming. And she's able to keep it up for hours, through the night even. Even outside of being a vtuber, as an entertainer, that's pretty respectable.

>>37511445
Pippa level

>>37511171
Cover has to realize that they can't convert Hololive fans into Holostar fans, not even in the west. They need to find their own audience while pissing off the least amount of Hololive fans as possible.

>>37511445
1k, otherwise they are probably a money laundry scheme

>>37511445
200-500 ccv but only if they have big paypigs/barons otherwise its a failure.

>>37511499
youre assuming that the marketing guy in every company is actually competent lol. Sure, some are, but i wouldnt expect it for all

>>37511445
Four view or over 5k monthly SC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCkHRaB5h8c
RIP Saki

>>37511508
Nah, it's that she has a lower iq than the average Pokémon making the stream become "Retard with Smart Pets". That is the perfect type of stream for toddlers, which are the majority of Miko's viewers.

>>37511508
Some people in /hlg/ talked about this yesterday. The way Pekora approach Pokemon is vastly different compare to Miko and Korone. Pekora enter Pokémon setting a challenge up and she play to defeat the champions, the other 2 are just messing around with their cute Pokemons

>>37511508
Anon pls. This numbers she's getting is because of shiny hunting autism.

>>37511517
This

Damn Pekora is jobbing HARD rn looks like she forgot to pay for her monthly bots.

>>37511491
if she's cute and funny she's going to be fine. just avoid doing GFE at all costs!

So what were the verdicts for jewEN? Anyone worth watching? Anyone unicorn friendly?

>>37511587
Time for gacha?

>holo vs holo
But niji already won today, why?!

>lapchama Christmas off-collab
reminder that the last time haachama did this, 2 of the 3 others who were with her graduated

>>37511491
yeah i dont trust idolcorp especially with how they handled the jew branch.
would not be surprised if they fall to versen levels.

well some good news for nousagis is miko just took silver so pekora is still just one bronze away from joint top

>>37511619
Leprechaun

Well no bronze for migo

>>37511619
Rye already censored
All the girls have bfs and aren't hiding it

>>37511645
Jackchama pls...

>>37511635
They already lost the month

Huh, Miko beat Foobs cv, I wasn't expecting that, She's pretty damn good numbers for this, why is that?

>>37511635
see
>>37510184

>>37511619
the bong one is my boyfriend (female)

Seeing Pekora with these numbers while playing FGO is very funny kek

>>37511647
She'll have to settle for silver.

>>37511619
rye is getting nerfed and all of them have bf's and are open about it.

>>37511635
>my tribe NEVER has any disagreement
It's actual Holo vs Holo
Always has been

>>37511666
She's not overlapping with FBK pokemon autism.

>>37511652
>>37511704
>All the girls have bfs and aren't hiding it
Thanks, don't have to waste time on them then.

lose to indog just graduate all of them already

>>37511666
She pulled a FBK and also shiny hunting

>>37511445
Define levels of success, because many of them can't even survive more than a year. See : cyberlive

Will the PokeBOX funnel to Miko when King ends his collab?

>>37511728
crab man... sub 5k...

I like this kobo, no homo and playing game that viewers wanted to see. Ty whoever fired omega.

>>37511735
yes.

>>37511707
>>37511729
oh so its the akaina crowd? Interesting, I thought only Fubuki could pull that off.

>>37511687
What funnier is that she is actually shying away from doing gacha in general. She could have do shiny hunting like FBK but she won’t, she could have done gacha stream, but she won’t. She will just playthrough the story

>Lui's number
>IRyS' number
>Flare's number
It's actually just impossible to be a successful vtuber without a good avatar.
Yes, having good avatar doesn't mean you automatically get good number but you CANNOT get good number without good avatar first and foremost. Your avatar design IS the most important part of being a vtuber. A good example is Suisei and Miko getting good number after they changed their dogshit old avatars to a good one. Azki also inclined a bit after changing her design.

Are homo collabs off limits now?

>>37511728
8000. Bagus

>>37511728
Banning tempus collab was the right call after all.

>>37511755
I think you mean gacha addict. Shiny hunting at its core is also gacha

>>37511794
Pray for IRyS

>>37511170
Isn't Gura in space?

>>37511424
>Does Pekora hate Lui?
so that's why she favor Koyori huh...

>>37511587
Working hard for those gift cards sister!

>>37511794
Who determines what's a good avatar?
How do you prevent yourself from ending up with a dud?

>>37511843
stop perpetuating this, she hasn't mentioned her since rust

jwu any good news in last 7 hours

>>37511424
She just not into FPS
You guys really want Pekora to hate other Holo huh

>>37511755
The problem with this type of run is when you get that shiny the numbers would drop hard. Also if you want numbers from a pokemon stream stay away from fbk pokemon slot, thats the worse overlap.

>100k+ watching pokemon between Holo/Niji
>Aqua starts her finale in 15 minutes
No.......
My akwa... my poor akwa....

>>37511508
>Doesn't even know what the stream is about

>>37511866
Laplus needs a Santa bikini for Xmas and fanart of her getting fucked by a reindeer

>>37511327
>Well they are not entirely wrong, if holojp overlaps them I doubt any of those streams could reach 5k ccv
For fuck sake, Roberu had his 3D debut overlaped by AquaPex, no troubles, easy 17k because people really wanted to watch it.

The recent UPROAR! 3D debuts are bleeding even the Holo casual aundeice because of a "perverse incentive" NOT to watch it
>people don't want risk giving it a view and sending the wrong signal to COVER that it is possible to transfer audience from the girls to the boys

Think about it and I'm sure I'm not the only one: if by some reason, thanks to my vite and of people like me, UPROAR! 3D debut smashed all records for the StarsJP, Cover would consider the measure a success and likely build up on it.

*NOT* watching it is my way to ensure Cover gets the correct signal with respect to their strat of trying to give the littlest debuff for the girls to pump the boys up

>>37511801
Depends on vesper yab, won't surprised me if all branches build their wall higher and tighter now. Would be funny if vesper did a lelouch to save everyone's numbers.

>>37511866
Kronii might be trying again

All these collabs

>>37511801
My rrat say that the real reason made vesper and magni so mad, i mean think about it? Magni doing his RM stuff again and vesper got misconduct.

>>37511901
You might be correct. I watched all the previous Stars 3d debit, but skipped uproar's

btw haachama said that this (and next week I think) are full of collabs

>>37511728
>Selen only 8k
HOW ?

>>37511801
Expect a big Christmas and New years Collab with all of them

>>37511904
he most likely did a shinji from fate rather than a lelouch

>>37511424
The game that they usually play is not something pekora enjoy no? Im pretty sure if they ask pekora to play mario party or uno she will join.

>>37511939
They spammed Collab request to the girls and they independently reported their ass to management

>>37511942
This thread likewise, most of the StarsJP 3D, both debuts, lives and even karaoke and regular 3D streams. Given that they were using the INNK studio (after Roberu fiasco) this thread even figured out before it was even disclosed that Cover had two 3D studios in use, with INNK being the better one.

For UPROAR tho, people went out of their ways to NOT watch it for the reasons disclosed above.

How viable do you think a Hololive TV channel would be?

>>37511794
Also remember Sana.
Holy fuck.
How did Cover think that was a good idea?

Vesper kept bugging Gura to collab with him to boost his number.

>>37511956
8k is high for her, no "novelty" buff because she had collabed already with Holos and Overwatch sucks

>Sisters botting kuzuha's pokemon stream
roru roru
rumao
does losing hurt so badly you had to pay to win?
kek

>>37511901
>Think about it and I'm sure I'm not the only one: if by some reason, thanks to my vite and of people like me, UPROAR! 3D debut smashed all records for the StarsJP, Cover would consider the measure a success and likely build up on it.
>*NOT* watching it is my way to ensure Cover gets the correct signal with respect to their strat of trying to give the littlest debuff for the girls to pump the boys up
I mean, I'd rather the viewers put the money where their mouth is and NOT watch the stream, instead of NOT watching it and screaming like retards on social media

>>37511956
Unlike apex which is her game she was also playing with ENs instead of IDs so they didnt all just funnel her and overlapped by Offcollab Loserlight on top she probably was on track for 9.1k if she kept maintaining her 1k discrepancy from Ame she had until that offcollab overlap

miggers 40k

>>37511976
I honestly dunno how that group formed. Pekora is literally the odd one out as she barely play FPS

>>37511970
maybe christmas but not new years since magni rm might be joining that supposed bug twitch fleshstreamer new year event which explains his recent rm activities

Migo 40k! chance of forcing king to slip?

>>37511998
Not very. They would need a different type of permissions for broadcast and they can't do Karaokes

>>37511904
>Would be funny if vesper did a lelouch to save everyone's numbers.
I would unironically kneel, even if Nowa goes back to being a 3 view

>>37512029
Too strong
What happened to the people who say November is Pekora most buffed month?

>>37511571
Sounds like an EOP opinion.

>>37511998
Tv channels are a whole different beasts when it comes to perms.

>>37511998
imagine those shitty 10-15 min sketches that they do for the main channel on repeat all day

>>37512042
0.0001%
fubuki collab and aqua pokemon stream in 22jst

>>37512062
Who know? But the fact remain Pekora and Mori are the only 2 who tie themselves to a challenge

>>37512042
Really low
It's almost 1 hour mark where she'll just recline

I didn't know fifa a heavy cpu game?

>>37511904
If anything Im guessing he got too greedy with the numbers and became icarus and flew too close to the sun by trying to contact the females for collabs to the point of harassment.

KOBO WHAT THE HECK?

>>37512070
Yeah, the stars aren't aligned for Migold.

Miko 40K
Aquakeks that claimed her numbers would go down are utterly btfo

>>37511801
No one will ever say it out loud, but the fact that Collabs with the stars went from a 'once a week or more' to 'none' on the EN side should at the very minimum give one pause.

my cute wife

>>37512042
She's doing endurance till she gets it, so stream will go on for a while, but other streams are starting and by the time they end it will be late in Japan so probably not.

>>37512106
it is

>>37511998
Not viable at all. Lots of specialist niche channels like that have been tried, mostly for the gaming community but also for the "radical sports" one and they all fizzled even after some moderate success
>like G4techTV

Running a TV channel and getting it on cable packages is expensive, time consuming and brings very little benefit over running a Youtube channel

Numbers on Kobo stream
!!

>King gold
>no kneeling
Wtf /#/ bros

Is Pego a jobber now??

Peko your husband lose to a baby...... twice

>>37511888
Alas, her absence has greatly weakened her during overlaps.

>>37510110
Ryeschizo spent months shilling her for this...

>>37511659
Bros I hope Jack is alright.

>>37511801
No, but the girls probably saw that it was affecting their metrics and causing trouble to the other girls

>>37512030
Core of Usaken.

>>37512165
It's a collab and he's Niji's biggest star. I'll accept it but it's not kneel worthy.

>>37512106
Its not that heavy but theres a lot of redundant processes which makes your computer do the funny if its not strong enough.

Kek

is fifa actually popular? I heard that game was trash

>>37512215
wat dis

>>37512030
>towa treats pekora like an equal and isn't afraid to banter with her
>pekora likes that and thus likes towa
>pekora looks up to botan and likes her
Their personalities clicked and they bounce off each other well and in the end it just worked. It's not hard to see how the group formed.

>>37510352
>indog stadium left with 100s of deads because of a riot
nahh, it's EU for sure

>>37511901
Absolutely correct. I've seen this sort of misstep before, and so have many, many others.
There will be no peace if cover wants to try and shove the stars into a 'wider holopro box' by force, and such a thing MUST be fought against of cover wants to try and force it.

>>37512215
This, this why linux

>>37512231
It's a niche type of popular, football fags love AND hate it.

>>37512237
kobo's spec

>>37512231
It well…gacha, but with popular players
Most fifa “players” play it to roll their favorite player

>>37512162
>>37512215
>>37512111
WHAT HAPPENED?

>>37512180
She lost 2 years worth of new fans

GOD SAVE THE KING!!

>>37512231
yeah, i think that speed guy inclined with that fifa gacha thing.

>>37512231
it's the only soccer game in the market, people are forced to buy it knowing it's shit every year
just like pokemon......

>>37512255
>post 2010 linux

>>37512165
Let me know when that faggot wins gold with a solo stream.

>>37512291
There is a shit ton of pokemon clones in the market. The problem is that they all suck ass

NIJI GOLD

fifa is just fgo but more mainstream

How do we save katou jun? Where are the emon and why are they not spamming their copypasta in other streamers chat?

>>37511755
Others can to a smaller extent, Fubuki is just the go-to for it.

>Pekora dosen't like FPS
????
she likes them but rarely streams them. she loved PUBG and likes Apex but knows that its not something her fans want to see

why does miko have so many eggs

>>37512278
Yeah. I luv me aqua, but her numbers reflect her situation fairly, no reason to come up with any nonsense.

>>37512364
she "liked" pubg and apex anon but its pretty obvious that she was neutral in regards to those games.

>>37512328
but the guy is rarely solo though, most of his fps or mmo streams are with his clique or the fleshtubers

>>37512384
Shiny hunting. Can't gacha the starter to be shiny, so you need to breed.

>>37512215
CPU 100%
GPU only 60%

Time to get a new cpu

You guys know nothing, Pekora is more than willing to debuff herself doing fate watchalongs or playing fgo story.
Good rep within a fanbase is worth a lot more than some golds because It will allow her to pull record streams in the future like her 137k fate stream and it also raises her floor from tourists that stick around after seeing her commitment

>>37512364
Truly the King of numbers. She knows her stuff.

>>37512086
>Fact
Again EOP point of view. Pekora as said if she does a Jinsei shibari lets her appreciate more every moment with her pokemon instead of using them as disposable toys. Her reason for chosing a Pokemon are based on her roleplay. Example : Fuecoco was touched by another girl before her so she doesn't want him anymore, Lechonk approaches alone other Pokemon instead of doing alone so she rejects him for being a cheater, but he keeps showing up on her selfies doing cute poses so she end up capturing him

GRIM GANG BTF-
>that Bae number
I'll call it a draw

>>37512384
Looking for that shiny starter.

Miko starts reclining at 41.9k peak
Safe Niji KING Gold for today extending their lead

>>37512364
Imagine having consideration for your audience. She should learn a thing or two from Mori.

>>37512442
Is that a 6k full gen off Collab?

>>37512429
i thought this was obvious as fuck.

>>37512502
Its not on daisenpai channel.

>>37512519
>i thought this was obvious as fuck.
Apparently not.

>slow thread
>check WC thread on sp
>30posts/min
>Holo images

>>37512429
Pego is # queen because she can play the long game

>>37512550
What does Sora have to do with this?

>Korone 3D live tomorrow
Is it finally time for Korone 100k?

>>37512442
bae blowing omega daily behind the shack to delay EN3 as much as possible

>>37512559
I want to see ina with peko ears

>>37512584
Im talking about elira you retard.

>>37512559
Who is this cutie? She looks familiar.

>>37512590
ehhhhhhhhhhh, 85k....

>>37512603
Then why did you bring Sora up?

>>37512559
Also Indonesian Selen poster spotted, kek

>>37512559
>check WC thread
>frog
>frog
>frog
>wojak
>frog
>wojak
>random dbz image
Fuck you don't make me do that again

CAM ON /#/
SHOW SOM FACKIN NUMBERS

>>37512364
The last time she touch Apex she got dislike bombed to hell
I think she learnt her lesson. I do not like saying this but I think there is a LOT of unicorns who latched onto her

>>37512590
what's her highest peak?

>>37512664
>unicorns
You're too dumb. People dislike APEX for reasons absolutely unrelated to "boys and girls", when that happened it was at the height of Matsuri APEX addiction destroying her career.

>>37512697
Someone said it's 70k

>>37512646
>alamy
>a lamy
>lamy
WAMY

>>37512590
Depends on guests.

>>37512559
Someone should spam Selen images there

>1 hour 20 minutes with 6.5k avg and 7k peak
>same view count as 5.5 hour long VoD with 8k peak and 7k YouTube CCV is approaching bilibili levels of magic numbers

>>37512429
I don't really see what does she gain to continue streaming this debuff shit, she already has her monster stream, isn't it more benefical for her to move to some other game and catch some tourists?

>>37512697
70k, her 2021 3d birthday live

Reminder that Aqua is not a first army, she's a second army

>>37512725
Im pretty she got dislike bomb because she clickbait the autist with her title parodying CR cup.

>>37512753
>Nijichad
>Indog
You can't make this shit up

>>37512776
first army this, second army that, why don't you arm yourself up with some bitches first

>>37512697
>what's her highest peak?
Here are the current Korone top 10 streams

>peak :: date :: title :: video_id
>70979 :: 2021-10-01 :: 【#戌神ころね生誕祭2021】久しぶりの3Dライブ!?今年もいっぱいおめでとうをありがとう! :: 2l3i7MulCgs
>70087 :: 2021-07-14 :: 【#戌神ころね新衣装】お披露目させて :: k78VlIFlpvk
>66709 :: 2021-07-14 :: 【#戌神ころね新衣装】お披露目会場はコチラです! :: al2ZjXgCWbg
>66089 :: 2021-04-01 :: 【#おかころ2周年3Dライブ】デビューして2年になりました。みんなにありがとう! :: v8tFy6_6R84
>58074 :: 2021-06-16 :: 【罰ゲーム】コミュ障だけどトークデッキ無しで逆凸して会話を盛り上げろ! :: qVJnt4dMHxM
>56939 :: 2020-11-27 :: 【ころね視点】 日本語と英語で爆弾解除に挑戦する2人 :: yk2kdHkzI48
>55146 :: 2020-11-01 :: 60秒で地球が滅亡する!?その前に救うのだ!!100万人ありがとう!! :: o9jmwIN9FVQ
>49912 :: 2020-10-01 :: 【#戌神ころね生誕祭2020】おたんじょうびかい会場 :: OOhjQO_KWhs
>48662 :: 2020-10-19 :: 【#おかころ】わんにゃん深夜ライブ :: 3xns3zxYBkY
>48192 :: 2022-01-02 :: 【#みっころね24】新春!!爆笑!!みっころね24時間ぶっ通し生放送2022 :: HyT_8zPmp6Q

For someone with this much name recognition Korone low ceiling will always be something remarkable.

>>37512776
Yeah, nah.

>>37512776

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