/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>36821342
maybe if Hololive Lazy Cunts were streaming they would trend too, just a guess.
The only that streams are also the most objectively unpopulars ones so doesn't help too

>>36821384
>Hololive JP doesn't stream
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>36821342
one thing i noticed is that it keeps suggesting me NijiEN shit even though i never watched any of them aside from their debuts maybe. meanwhile i have to manually search a holo just to force them into my suggestions.

>>36821419
>English oriented trends
>Why JP aren't trending in people timeline
Why the fuck JP content would be trending for EN? No one outside japan fucking watch JP Hololive in a significant size dude, even when there weren't hundreds of EN speaking vtubers and dozens of corpos ALMOST THE ENTIRE OF JP CONTENT WAS CONSUMED IN THE FORM OF CURATED CLIPS, NOT LIVE STREAM
And it's still the cases

>>36821342
Yes, Niji got caught red handed trying to sabotage their competitors. Riku is shitting his pants right now because if Cover can turn up some hard evidence that's tortious interference right there.

>>36821342

>>36821532
reminder, she's a bit of a schitzo

>>36821342
Nijisanji popularity predates Hololive popularity in Japan and twitter is used heavily by Japan. You get fed artificial "trending" topics that are only really trending among people who the site deems as being interested in the same or similar things as you. That's all it is.

>>36821342
>Does Pippa have a point here?
No. I dont even need to watch it.

>>36821456
Nijisanji always trending on Twitter seems suspect. They are already accused of using bots to inflate their stream viewership. It's really weird given that a large majority of not just companies but artists/actresses/cosplayers seem to prefer Hololive and yet they weren't given a topic until Musk did some cleaning.

>doesn't know how twitter trends work
>tries to shoehorn offtopic /pol/ shit into vtubers
>somehow blames niji without evidence

lmao

>>36821633
>t. eop

I occasionally get holomem trends but nijisanji is more often and at larger interaction levels. I just attribute it to nijiEN being more popular among the heavy twitter user crowd

>>36821486
Learn what red handed means you dumb SEAnigger

>>36821384
Damn hololive must have slap you hard to forgot how niji losing for a week streak, even few day ago they lose on all top10 placement.

The funny part is, vox even losing to bae, and he did another stream to salvage it and it gotten even worst, paul lee must losing his hair right now kek

>>36821712
Why would their sponsorship manager care?

Damn is this the reason why my Twitter feed is fucking cleaner now? Damn Elon you did good shit.

>>36821697
So in your eyes nothing is sus about the fact that Niji have had a topic for years and every other vtubing company wan't allowed to have one until the troons who get to make the decision about what gets topics and whitelisting trends got fired?

Nijitrannies...

>>36821756
Yep. JP twitter is buzzing right now that all the trending gender ideology and politics shit that was shitting up their feeds disappeared overnight. Turns out JP twitter was run by a bunch of radical feminists who got brainwashed by progressivism.

>>36821712
now say that without crying

>>36821342
Yeah I made a new account and following holo, and suddenly like every single niji en is on my timeline somehow, I muted every single one of them

>>36821809
Only twitterfags say faggy shit like this.

>>36821764
Nijisanji has been the most popular company for years dumb faggot. There was a general Vtuber topic for everyone because making a new topic for every shitty vtuber company would be pointless. Obviously Hololive should have gotten
one sooner as they blew up especially in 2020, but you act like Hololive was the only one affected when tons of other topics not even vtuber related were affected by same shitty content curators. It's not like Hololive hasn't trended before, but twitter was being ran by a bunch of femenists cunts who probably hate idols unless they're kpop stars because they hate men. so no nothing at all that points to anycolor doing anything nefarious. literally a leap in logic purely because your tribalfag ridden seanigger brain can't comprehend something not being a console war.

>>36822033
>Nijisanji has been the most popular company for years dumb faggot.
Nijisanji hasn't even been the most popular vtubing company in Japan for years. There's a reason Kuzuha has been the silver king since 2020

>>36821342
I am 100% sure this faggot FalseEyeD won't cover this because he a Nijisanji shill leeching on Hololive popularity.

Twitter's whole moderation team got fired, there's no curation in the trends anymore.

>>36822033
>Nijisanji has been the most popular company for years
That's the thing though. They are only popular on Twitter but not where it matters. Vshojo, Vspo, Neoporte, 774, and Hololive have been doing extremely on Youtube and Twitch but you don't see them much on Twitter trending relative to Nijisanji. It's either Nijisanji has been using bots all this time or it's been paying Twitter to game the system because sure as shit its clout on Twitter is anything but organic. You have to concede at least that if you're not a shill.

>>36822231
I believe this because Elon confirmed that ex-Twitter exployees have been accepting 15k to get someone account verified.

>>36821342
Remember when Niji pay Twitch streamers to watch their clips?

>>36821342
do you have to spam 5 threads with this

>>36821456
that was annoying, it's been easier to keep up with small indies than some holos on twitter

>>36822158
Learn to read holonigger. Plus outside of otaku Nijisanji is still far more popular in Japan overall. Hololive has global domination however.
>>36822163
he'll cover but not the literally baseless part of it
>>36822231
You're literally have no idea what you're talking about. Japan doesn't watch Vshojo, Neoporte, 774 or Vspo as much as they watch Nijisanji. We're talking about Japanese twitter not global. Nijisanji is very popular with several demographics including normalfags where as Hololive obviously skewed more towards Otaku. Hololive trended worldwide plenty and has definitely trended in JP, because as we found out twitter was being run by twitter femenists who detest otaku and otaku hobbies so purposefully kneecapped them. you're letting you're ridiculous hatres for another company cloud your better judgement.

>>36822367
>Remember when Niji pay clipper to clips their stream?

>>36821562
She's just like me fr

>>36822376
That's what people do when they're desperately trying to force a narrative. Holofags are absolutely obsessed with Nijisanji it's hilarious.

Why does Pippa shill Hololive so much

I kinda stand to the fact that nijis are popular on twitter bcoz they are crazy active on twitter compare to holo who just tweet announcements, and rt fanarts. Holo is been real lazy/scared/no desire to touch twitter and its been like that before and after elon decided to fire some of his employees, that until unity of holoEN/ID and nijiEN comes in.

But then, I would take back my words if there are official information from twitter, niji, and holo. Cant hate these schizo (or even pippa) coz I understand being one is fun, specially if this is your chance leech over this conspiracy. Pippa, if you're reading this rn, I just wanna say that I dont hate you, youre cute and v smart for leeching over this conspiracy. Lets have sex.

>>36822580
leeches seek the largest source of food

>>36822545
>Evidences backed the narrative.
HOLOFAGS ARE SO OBSESSIVE ABOUT NIJISANJI AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>36821756
there were apparently tiktok accounts that showed the daily struggles of twitter staff if you want to look for them

Well
It's kind of nice to know that the schizophrenic creativity of 2019-2020 vtuber tourists hasn't completely diminished

>>36822747
you're proving his point

>>36822747
There's literally no evidence to back that Nijisanji is in any way related to this. Your mind goes straight to Nijisanji must have something to do with this because you're obsessed. Shinzo Abe has a topic maybe it's him that was keeping Hololive down!

The problem with the nijisanji got the topic because it was popular at the time before hololive was even a thing is wrong because the nijisanji topic was created in 2021. You can't argue that there they both got the same amount of curation in the topics front since its a fact that they did not.
Some more schizo ramblings. The nijisanji topic is in English while hololive topic even now is in Japanese, and do you know what else debuted in 2021?

>>36822913
Kinda crazy right?
The date the nijisanji (in English) topic was created being so close to this date is such a weird coincidence.
But yeah, its all coincidence. Its not like twitter is a huge part of nijisanji's outreach strategy and a metric that their managers keep an eye on.

>>36822913
>>36823112
I assume you have proof?

>>36823173
What proof?
The Paul Li discord leaks?
The verifiable debut dates?
The fact you can go on twitter and look up nijisanji topic to find nearly the exact date when the topic first was created.

>>36823112
are you seriously bringing up Paul Lee discord thing that was for a sponsored stream and in which his response was "your call" ?

>>36823308
Well yeah.
Even nijisanji fans will agree that nijisanji members do alot more on twitter. The fact that the managers has more than a small amount of involvement in their vtuber's twitter engagement is a bad look when there's proof building up that nijisanji was trying to get into twitter's pants from the very start.
And now that the pants are pulled down and they were caught suckling at twitter's cock, the argument that they were hurt just as badly by twitter's unfair practices isn't gonna fly.

>>36823492
Didn't this is the same management that banned Twitter space for whatever their excuse are? If twittards and nijiniggers were collaborating, surely niji wouldn't have to limit Twitter space when they have connections to Twitter staffs

>>36822376
Pippa made all these threads.

>>36823754
They banned twitter spaces AND hand cams.
Don't obfuscate the facts.
Both are things JP weren't allowed to do.

>>36823248
https://twitter.com/Salad_Fundead/status/1421293151684202497
And you can also find the fucking Hololive was already a topic all the way back in 2021.

>>36821483
Topics are different from Trends. Topics are a specific compilation for popular subjects that have constant discussion. Don't pilpul the argument by conflating the two

>>36823893
The bans were true right, so the collusion claims must be a joke when twitter has really nothing to gain from niji who blocked usage of their key new feature, no?

>>36821486
It's over for nijikeks. I give them 2 more weeks (14 more days (336 more hours)) at most

lol.

>>36824038
Did you read my comments?
Twitter doesn't give a shit. Nijisanji has stuff to gain from twitter and they happened to get their nijisanji topic created just in time for their EN branch debut. We know that people in twitter were accepting payment for things like blue checkmarks. We also know that the topic creation process was handled by a guy whitelisting topics. You don't need to be sherlock holmes to see something weird my guy.
Again, I never said anything about nijisanji colluding with anyone to block hololive.
I brought all this up because some idiots were claiming that nijisanji did not get any sort of benefits from twitter and were on an even and fair playing field.

>>36824300
>Did you read my comments?
Anon, I was referrring to OP's claims tho, not yours

>>36822158
Kuzuha's not even the Bronze King anymore. He really fell off

>>36824388
You mean the claim that nijisanji and twitter colluded? I told you exactly what they colluded on. Nijisanji got the nijisanji topic mainly to boost their EN vtubers. We can only guess what twitter got, but I mean if people paid 15,000 dollar for a blue checkmark, I can only imagine what they got.

>>36822376
based pippa

>>36822415
kek anon vspo has higher average viewership than nijisanji

>>36821764
"Sus" is not "red handed," esl-chama.

>>36822580
Nijisanji is killing the Vtubing market with oversaturation and hyperinflation. Hololive, on the other hand, for all their faults, picks from those with the most potential and cultivates them to become the best Idols that they can be. Hololive is at least more respectable.

>>36822580
She never got over Selen ignoring her on Twitter last year when she was openly begging for a collab lmao

>>36821342
>Anyone else noticed Twitter artificially push topics such as Nijisanji to their feed?
I don't know if I'm fucking dumb but I never had massive amounts of Niji stuff on my feeds. I use Twitter primarily to follow artists for fan arts and hentai, and I can confidently say that I've seen more Holo related stuff in a day than I have seen Niji's for a year.
For the record, I don't follow a single streamer from both companies. Purely just artists and JAV posters.

>>36821483
>our nijisanji EN fans don't watch nijisanji JP so Holo EN fans must be not waching Holo JP to

>>36823112
Nijisanji has a にじさんじ topic too ya retard

Holy shit, this is some Trump Derangement Syndrome type shit.

>>36821342
What more likely happens is the fact that nijisanji members are much more ONLINE than holos are and their fans are as well. Meanwhile holos aren't nearly as active on twitter and their fans relegate their posts to broadly titled fanart tags often with no caption. Meanwhile when a big event happens with hololive easily takes over the trending tab while Nijisanji doesn't get that AS often(though sometimes Luxiem fans get their guys trending, which lines up with women obsessed with male content creators). Also, the notion that twitter suppresses most vtubers is kinda bullshit because I get recommended posts from random 2views all the fucking time with a virtual youtubers topic pushing them. I genuinely think anyone who assumed this before hand and notices some kind of change with vtubers in particular likely just have confirmation bias, rather than the notion being based in reality.

>>36826070
They're online more because they were fed nijisanji content through the topic. Early on, people were complaining about being recommended the Nijisanji topic when they engage mostly with Hololive.

>>36826219
Not in the sense that they have twitter open and see their content a lot. I mean "ONLINE" in the sense that they are constantly posting and doing shit on the internet, engaging in more pointless bullshit on the site than any other group's fans. The easiest way I can prove that is by pointing out that 99% of the discussion on the doxxfag site is nijisanji fans arguing over pointless bullshit in the comments of random member's pages.

>>36826219
I've also experienced something similar to this. I don't even follow the talents themselves but Niji content gets recommended to me most of the time which is weird.

>>36826219
I always got forced fed NijiEN stuff in my timeline despite only following one HoloEN and a few HoloJP talents.

>>36822580
Its what got her into vtubing

>>36821342
What did Pippa say about it? A long chatting stream discussing this important matter is needed

>>36821342
I've seen tempiss pushed despite not following or watching any. But nijis and fans are all over twitter more than anyone else so it would make sense.

>>36825992
Ah, yes, Trump(Hitler)'s Law.

>>36829253
>What did Pippa say about it
just click the link on the op anon

>Go into Reddit
>Hololive shit forced down your throat even if you never watched a vtuber in your life
>Nothing about Nijisanji
So how much did Yagoo pay to Mr.Reddit?

>>36831001
Now this rrat i believe

>>36821639
Bbbzzzt WRONG, nijitranny got caught shoehorning shit, and Musk-sama corrected them and their rep will never recover. The wall is back, baby, and that’s forever. Niji never trended and neither did buzzfeed shit and that fact us never going away or being memoryholed.

>>36831001
Do nijiniggers even use Reddit?
Except that Chinesemaple guy.

>>36822231
Well, it could conceivably just be that retarded cunts at twatter chose to artificially boost niji and suppress holo on their own initiative, without niji asking. If you buy that.

>>36831001
Nijiniger coomer use twitter you dumbass retard, reddit is for old people.

>>36825992
You mean a factual thing that is a real problem and it’s based to call it out and not let them live it down? Yes.

>>36821342
I don't follow anyone from Niji except Fumino cause chaos retard cat good, but then again I also don't follow anyone from HoloEN just JPs and a few indies so I never see anything outside of that nice little bubble and if I do it gets blocked/ignored Twitter might be a cancer as is but content management is pretty user friendly at least.

>>36831159
Lol why would anyone work for free when they can make money on them, 15k to buy a blue checkmark, so niji paying twitter is not even a rrat at this point.

>>36829253
She just stated the facts as they were universally observed. Japanese twitter is H E A L I N G

damn what a leech

>>36831257
Because they were retarded brainrotted brainwashed slacktivists, anon. They were suppressing anime as a topic as well. Nobody paid for that. They just wanted to harm otaku, just like sjw cancer ruins video games here to “dunk on losers” but don’t buy the games.

>>36831001
Not a dime Coco did all that for free by pandering specifically to them Imagine telling a slightly edgy weeb pre-teen their retarded ass meme has a chance of being on a live stream where a qt anime girl will laugh at it or make fun of it and you will build a dedicated audience of faggots and morons in no time flat

All the nijimales trend because fujos are twitter faggots, the girls trend because they are closer to the boys. Why do you think that Finana has never trended on twitter, while all the other girls have?

How are the reacts of the japanese forum? i bet they're laughing their ass off at how westerns are reacting to it

>>36831001
> go to Hololive subreddit
> surprised to find Hololive content
melting point IQ

>>36831576
Didn't Finna literally pull a surprise its a boy Hotel off collab not that long back when it was meant to be a girls only stream.

>>36831629
Melting point of what retard? Did you think this fucking stupid post through lots of shit has a melting point some of it high.

>>36831684
>Lied, to her fans, parents and pomu about Uki being in the trip
>Left Pomu to take all the backlash because of her lies
>Complains on twitter about not getting added to group far art
>Creates a secret group with groomers from her fanbase
>Gets pushed to ban the world trap and insult the rest of her fanbase that don’t agree with the tranny mindset
>Still lies to her fans while getting groom by said group
>Content has gotten worse over time with nothing but gacha or the bare minimum content

>>36831749
holy seethe lmao

>>36821712
>losing the imaginary CCV game held on a containment board in a basket weaving forum
wew
do you want to check the financial reports again?

>>36831813
Deflecting from the fact that you are literally to fucking stupid to include "ice" at the end of your post.

>>36831810
It's scary that someone that retarded was allowed to have unsupervised interactions with the outside world. How do Ryugaurds cope?

If I repeat an accusation enough it must be true. Evidence? Who needs something like that

>>36825694
>Not many JP clips for nijiniggers hence EN fans only catters to what clips are available. Nijisanji JP is dead not many is willing to lose their time to create clips

>>36832018
Beside a handful of them, most of the major ones left months ago. It’s actually sad when you go to the discord and her remaining gachi is begging the discord to help on group projects because they have nothing planned for her 500k subs or anything more down the line

Niji has been a net negative on vtubing. I wager if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have nearly as much hologirls collabing with males or as sjw vtubers in general

>>36822545
>>36822665
>>36825590
>>36826070
^
>"I don't use Twitter because Twitter troons"
>Nijifans actually uses it
>Niji members actually streams and provides content to talk about.
>"Why do I keep getting fed nijisanji!?"
This nigga actually thinks that Elon Musk is more impartial than a team owned by the public.
Twitter was losing millions per day and didn't care. Elon is the one trying to monetize a fucking checkmark.

>>36832458
This nigga = OP, not
>>36822545
>>36822665
>>36825590
>>36826070

>>36832458
Wow because 8$/month is just the same as a cool 15k under the table. At least try to not be a retarded nigger

>>36826219
Same i don't even know i get niji so much, i dont even follow them.

>>36832601
>one is actually announced by the man himself
the other is shit you pulled out of your ass and without evidence to back up.
The only reason niggas like you can continue to feed misinformation about niji here is because nijifans are too busy discussing niji. You fuckers have too much time and can't stop seething about niji.

>>36832363
Oof no joke that is sad seriously she fucked up and it'll be a while before she digs herself out of that pit

>>36831107
Reddit is banned in mainland china

>>36831899
that report which shows that cover pumps most of its income back into the company as opposed to nijisanji's grand cash out strategy? and still barely ahead of cover? LMAO

>>36833827
cope
let's see how this plays out when even zuckerberg is pulling out of the metagarbage train

>>36834139
That won't happen to much moneys been dumped into what was a retarded idea plus all the company re-branding its a bigger cope to believe he will pull out instead of tossing more money into the hole

>>36831001
Anon, I can explain this. I'm no Ledditor but nijisanji sub is a ghost town and only got 70k, while holo sub got 800k. You can't say the same thing on Twitter, most holos got much more followers than nijis, but holos got no traction at all. Actually, you mentioning Reddit is somewhat a proof of Twitter manipulation because how the fuck can holos get no traction at all with those followers unlike on Reddit, which they make frontpage some times.

>>36835121
>Nijisanji only got 70k
Their fans got no time on reddit, as they're too busy plaguing doxx sites kek

>>36831159
The problem with this is that they were suppressing multiple other agencies too which is a bit much for nijifag doing shit fro his own initiative

>>36822580
She knows that as above, so below and tries to boost the trailblazer so rest of industry reflects it more

>>36822665
>bcoz

>Does the menhera /here/ finger puppet have a point?
No, the answer is no. This retarded rrat came from # and she's just parroting it because its what she always does, hopefully she keeps doing this and PC gets sued by anycolor.
There is literally no proof to speak off, both this thread, the one posted yesterday and when it started in #, it doesn't exist, its just baseless shitflinging cause the trends aren't curated anymore.

Holy shit. Did you guys Dramaniggers ran out of Drama to bait? Go back watch twitch Thot Seanog.

>>36836327
why dont you follow your oshis words and you educate yourself
>>36793238
>proof doesn't exist because I say so, even though there is mountains of evidence and nobody is buying your gaslighting anymore
Now who could be behind this post? Oh, right.

>>36836528
>evidence
All tweets in that fucking post have zero relationships with this rrat or the hololive topic itself. How braindead do you have to be to think it's the evidence?
https://twitter.com/7216_LOVE/status/1505449548025503744
https://twitter.com/Salad_Fundead/status/1488347886090088450
The topic is already useable back to 2022.03, retarded.
Also, the topic ID contains a timestamp, just like the ID of any tweet, because the topic uses the same ID format as tweets. You can find out the exact time it was created using this website to translate the timestamp.
https://oduwsdl.github.io/tweetedat/#1240063989779841024
hololive, created 17 Mar 2020

>nijis get a topic at the most opportune time to appeal to the twittard community with their terminally twitter online EN chuuabs
>"Ignore the signs guys, no foul play here"
This is what I think the twittards like to call a Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss.

This dude is still going at it even after the other nijifags told him to stop tanking their reputation.

>>36836327
Can't get sued for talking about publicly sourced rumors in America, dumbass. The law isn't yet gigacucked like Europe or Japan.

>>36831093
what were they shoehorning? Do you even know what it means?