/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3581809
Why is the world so cruel?

If you really want to save them, learn Japanese and start clipping these small chuubas. You can do it, anon.

I actively avoid struggling vtubers, i don't want to feel bad for them

those are some of the blandest designs I've seen, like some extremely obscure visual novel characters made into vtubers.

>>3581809
I just feel sad now

Here's you porn folder ranged quarterly saviorfags, lube those fingers and press subscribe
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsAu_7mlG_fJVShA0YJ_V_w/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=4

>>3582545
Thanks

>>3582644
Will add an example just to make you see OP example is weak with for only info that is a 2+ years old account and let you admire the numbers

>I will type exclusively in English in her chat
>she will respond to me in broken English
>she will continue doing this because I am literally 10% or more of her entire audience
>I will masturbate to the amount of control I've exerted over this poor soul
>I will leave and never return
>I didn't even leave a like
>I am a saviorfag

grooming small indie is one of the best experience one can have in this world

This shit makes me depressed like nothing else.

Not gonna do a single thing to help them though.

>>3581851
Be entertaining?

>>3582751
Holy fuck. I’m a shit maker there with lowest of quality video and I still have more views and subs, at least 500, than them and that was 7 years ago. Jesus, how dies she keep doing this? What keeps her going and whats her live viewer number? 1 and herself?

>>3581809
I CAN SAVE THEM
I WILL SAVE THEM

I didn't know there was a term for this feeling. Also, I didn't know other people felt it.

>>3582545
So when the Bear said there where near 10,000 vtubers in JP, she wasn't kidding. No wonder she came to this hellhole to advertise herself.

>>3583313
Honestly was she only one with an actual brain? Why are there no mass chuuba advertising themselves here. Seems strange

>>3582077
this is literally the only way, a single subscribe or shill thread isn't going to do a damned thing

>>3583134
>What keeps her going and whats her live viewer number? 1 and herself?
It's a guy desu, so he was already playing a loosing game. You either have to have an amazing singing voice, be good at Apex, or be a Babiniku with a degenerate design to stand out from the huge mob.

>>3583363
beacause none of them can even speak english half as well as her
beatani definitely had to study english independently from the school system

Amazing how people "saviorfag" people like Anya just because they "only" get 500 live viewers per stream. They really don't know how good she has it.

>>3583051
/vt/ - Virtual YouTubers

>>3583695
nice

>>3582281
Smart move

>>3583465
Well, there was that Rai girl who advertise herself here, but looking at ger last stream numbers she is just another example of being pumped and dumped by anons. The language barrier was just too big.

>>3583529
Hololive really warped people's expectations of what a "struggling" vtuber looks like.

>>3581809
>go on most recent video of one of their channels
>literally just 1 dude was watching live and chatting
>another person comes along and says konnichiwa
>she gets ecstatic and replies back immediately
>37 views total
>scrolling through their uploads
>some have single digit total views with zero likes/dislikes

God this shit hurts

>>3583313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf11ctcEk20
This might be very relevant to this thread

>>3583695
This can be pretty good as a banner. Just add a little more flare on it and its perfect. There’s been worse. Do it faggot. Make us proud.

>>3582545
God damn, that's a lot on introductions.

>>3583051
Instant classic material tbqh

>>3582960
Drop a $10 supa too.

>>3582545
I'm curious who is the first Live2D vtuber?

>>3581809
>>more than a year old vtuber group
>>never broke 5 digit views
>>2 digit live views
how are they still up and running? genuine question.

>>3583899
goddamn...

>>3582281
Sometimes you just get suckered in though. Pic rel posted a comment in a Calli stream, which I clicked, and by the time I'd realised how small she was I'd already heard her voice and felt bad. Still, by the standard of some in this thread she is positively successful.

>>3582960
I never felt this much power over someone in my entire life!

I like the fantasy that I'm saviorfagging for the next Miko or Suisei, who at some points streamed in front of single digit viewers.

I feel like the minimum requirement to get two digits live viewers is a decent microphone

>>3584716
looks comfy.

The only one I'm saviourfagging for has started to incline!

I've always wondered what these indies realistically think will happen. Do they work day jobs and do this in the hopes they get big? Are they neets?

>>3585043
I'm sure for most of them it's just a hobby they do for fun, they're not expecting to get into hololive.

>>3581809
i checked them out. it's too painful to watch.

>>3582077
the most merciful thing you can do sometimes is to let them fail

>>3583695
Let's have this one as a banner.

>Her chat will be flooded with eop shit from now on
>Can't read Eigo
Nice job retard

>>3583794
Not to mention that the number of people on this board that can actually speak japanese and/or are learning it must be below a hundred...

The only indie I follow because she draws alot of Sakura Miko, and has done so since her break and through the ups and downs of Hololive, and im grateful for it.

Chill art streams mostly. Grand total of 562 subs, been around for 10 months.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyT2VGLjNPvDdLHtQLuLj1Q

I honestly don't feel bad for any of these. I assume they're doing what they like so views shouldn't matter, and they should be having real jobs anyway.

Plus having a channel and uploading regularly helps their resume if they're trying to get hired by a big vtuber company.

kek

>>3585299
She would unironically preffer that to no viewers

>>3583695
anyone have the screenshot of the guy who said he dips into small vtubers streams, asks them if they eat cunny and then clips it for his personal collection?

watch the red panda
https://streamable.com/s7sxbc

https://www.youtube.com/c/YuriaofAilurus

>>3581809
Being a savior fag is only for those with talent (like Aki) because then you actually have a reason to stick around.

Here's a small JP vtuber group that I try and watch even though I understand nothing.
>Kokuri
ASMR
>Saki
the singer
>Canal
>Hikone
Great design and rig (Polka artist + Korone rig) but her brain is ???
>Momo
Hearty laugh, almost all her streams are talking

>>3585916
The only thing Aki has is the brand, a good voice, and a hot pussy.

>>3586358
Did you forget about Canal or is that the joke?

>>3581809
Unfortunately there is just too many of them to save them all...

>>3584693
probably just doing it as a hobby, none of the models look expensive and they dont have good thumbnail design, like at all. also at least 3 of the channels are just side channels with 3 or less uploads ( the asmr ones) and i think 2 of them have some sort of 1min videos where they just speak a bit

>>3586380
I wonder if she knows that her EoP fanbase is a bunch of horndogs that fap to her.

>>3584716
Cute design.

>>3586358
>Polka artist + Korone rig
This must cost some money. I wonder how many vtubers lose money a lot of money.

>>3583928
> His fucking face when the question drops
Comedy Gold ty anon.

>>3583928
I like that guy. I never seen him before but he seems cool. I refuse to watch Nijisanji so I feel conflicted.

>>3584716
>That voice
/pol/ has poisoned my brain. I can't stop jumping to conclusions.

>>3583695
>>3583051
vt learned from the best

>sub bot a literal who up to 1k
>unsub all of them after they announce the 1k celebration
SOMEBODY STOP ME!

>>3583928
This is the face of a man who's about to end this girl's hopes and dreams.

>>3587081
Not really, Cover only hires the cheapest ones.

>>3587459
Ooh, sounds fun, should try this too.

Keep trying anon. Maybe one day you will find the next Sora or Suisei.

The only indie I properly follow is Vtuber Flutist. Her model is cute and she's pretty talented.
She meh at English, but enjoying the music she produces and encouraging her is something that bypasses the language barrier.

>>3588474
is a Vtuber Flutist*
She even had a little break out video of 10K. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzHGspqIMbc

>>3587033
her JOP fanbase is the same so

There's no point in being a saviorfag, otherwise you wind up with heart wrenching shit like top sis trying to get to 2k singing and failing.

Don't groom, don't saviorfag, stop trying to prop people if you can't be bothered to stick around, raising someone's hopes only to destroy them is the worse thing you can do.

Fellow saviorfags, which oshi do you come crawling back to when your infatuation dies? Miko is always calling and welcomes me with open arms.

>>3587317
>he seems cool.
yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-9cmGyDDJE

>>3588842
If you're being realistic about it, one person can't save everyone anyway. But there are things that one person can do to make things better for another person. It's never bad to check people out and see if you enjoy their content for a while. And if you like their stuff, tell them and they'll appreciate it, I'm sure. Or even tell them you appreciate their effort. Yeah, it can be hard to watch someone work hard and not get any results, but that can happen in professions anywhere.

>>3588560

>>3587317
Hima and Societyman are the only good niji.

>>3583899
I never even new it could get this tragic. Even my videos are at least in the thousands for views, and I've had 3 seperate channels.

>>3589130
As an attention-seeking faggot, I can say for certain that is true. Sometimes all it need is for just a single person to tell you they like your stuff for you to feel as if all your work hasn't been for naught. Although, of course it might never be enough cause you'll always crave more, wanting to feel such a thing again, but it does at least temporary give a bit of respite and keeps you going for just maybe a little longer.

>>3587430
One of my favorite indies started to follow me in twitter and I panicked because I liked alot of weird shit and didn't want them to think I was strange

>>3583899
Must be nice being popular...

>>3582960
I did the same to Carol lol

I thought most of them don't want/like english viewers and comments, in the sense that they'll get confused from the language barrier and an improper answer would probably cause them to feel shamefur dispray
>>3585331
I've always been on the lookout for more full drawing streams, tell me more about her

>>3590379
Drop some n bombs. Worked for Miko.

>>3589130
>If you're being realistic about it, one person can't save everyone anyway
GO AWAY ARCHER.

Ahoge...

>>3590577
Eyeballs are eyeballs. Most vtubers know the potential of overseas fans. Also if you say anything drop a reference to DeepL, that will go a long way to help them interact with overseas fans.

>>3584716
>more subs than beatani without whoring herself to anonymous
she isn't doing that bad

>>3585331
>oh, what a nice indie drawfag. looks like she's a holo fan too.
>let's sub her and watch the stream
Turns out I am already subbed. Fucking hell, I gotta stop subbing every indie I see. A graveyard of dead subs...

>>3585043
Doing it for fun in hopes for one day hitting it big, it's the same reason for every content creator since streaming is a big grind with a sprinkle of luck on top.

>>3587317
Don't be a tribalist nigger. Just watch him. Expand your horizon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moB_X306GFY
pls...

>>3583363
Getting /vt/ as an primary audience sounds like absolute hell

>>3599167
The most severely mentally ill on the board have already latched themselves to someone or other in HoloEN, so I don't think it's as dangerous as it seems.

>>3583134
To be fair, for some people, streaming is just doing what you've normally been doing but showing it and therefore comes naturally.

>>3599167
>>3599259
Mmmm... mämmi. You're right that a lot of the malicious schizos latch on to HoloEN. Only harmless weirdos bother with indie vtubers.

>>3585043
It's honestly not different at all from YouTube content creators or non-vtubers in general. The only difference is that you feel pity for vtubers is because you care for them as a whole since they suit your interests. Some do it for fun, some do it to make it big, some just do it out of curiosity or even practice. It's a very human thing to experience, like wondering how someone is doing from the window of a vehicle as they walk by, how their day is doing, if everything is alright with them. Vtubers are much of the same, except they have the added caveat of the facial barrier that separates the "real" them from you. It's a fantasy to believe in.

If you were truly cared, you'd enable their fantasy too by supporting them. Instead of turning on another Amelia or Gura stream, or even an Iofi or Anya stream, go out of your comfort zone and start looking for low view vtubers. Engage with them, cheer them on. Make them redouble their efforts and hone their craft by simply being there. The effect of your support on them is immense, because it means they aren't shouting in the void, hoping to be recognized. An actor, all alone on a stage, may tell themselves it's practice for a big day and that one day, there will be an audience. If you feel as if they deserve your attention, then be that audience. But like acting, not all vtubers are cut out for the job. Think of all those supposed vtubers on Twitter who have been tweeting for months with not one stream. Even those who streamed with a basic .png or a scuffed L2D has done far, far more than that group ever has. That, in and of itself, is admirable, no matter how skilled or unskilled they are at the task at hand. The best success one can find in life is not for recognition alone, but to stay true to oneself and pursue one's passions to the best of their abilities, to not go astray from whatever goal they've set forth, and to see it through to the sweet or bitter end.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCvMlkmAR0xS8Q2Zk7-hSLDA
Has been around for almost 2 years, not even 1000 subscribers, gets like 5-12 viewers per streams.
I really want to saviorfag for her, she's really cute and I love her avatar. Too bad I don't speak moonrunes and don't have money ;_;

>>3600286
Did iofi designed her avatar? Especially eyes looks in her style.

>>3600426
Her mama is a hentai artist, so...
maybe you have a rrat here

I recently decided go back and look at a youtube channel I used to watch talking about anime back in like 2008 and saw he is still making videos with less than 8000 subscribers and most videos have 2 digits viewers with a few scraping just above 100.

I don't know how to feel, it is kind of sad and depressing but in another sense good on the guy just doing what he wants regardless of the how many views he gets.

>>3599487
What in the fuck

>watch the vtubers posted here
>now my feed is slowly being overrun by 2 digit view vtuber streams

>>3603798
You are the chosen one. It is your duty to save them all now. Don't disappoint me friend

>>3599487
dear fucking god. i can't tell if he was intentionally trying to make it look as foul as possible whilst spinning a mentally ill message, or if he's just fucking crazy

>>3599641
Then I'll groom them.

I started following an EN indie with literal sub-5 live viewers, one or two RL friends popped in sometimes. They don't stream often but they somehow never conflict with the main ones I follow. A lot of the time it was just me and them chatting about the game or random stuff in their life. Now they finally had a debut and peak at about 12-15, more if they're raided, and they've started interacting with other vtubers on twitter. They always greet me and sound a little excited when I enter the chat. Feela good man. I'm not gonna look for mod status though.

>>3582281
same, that's how i came across amai hiyo. after that i just avoided the smaller ones. Hiyo made it in the end, but at the cost of pandering to actual pedos by turning into a toddler vtuber.

>>3583313
Thats probably a better idea than going to the vtuber reddit. That place is now flooded with indies shilling themselves.

>>3584716
Oh shit Mogeko/Funamusea designed her avatar

>>3599641
There's big Camus/Sisyphus energy in this post

>>3599487
Oh shit.

>>3588602
>through dick, unity

I'm sorry YUA... I have failed you

>>3608932
you should feel bad

>saviour fag
wake up, even if you watch them, there is no visual novel protagonist development for (You), so (You) will never fuck them

I've experienced this watching a semi sucessful youtuber's struggling foray into streaming, and I refuse to feel it again.

If you tried to be a vtuber then this would be you and you know it.

Question is who would try to saviorfag you and how would you respond?

>>3583363
Because 4chan would most likely seethe at anyone who uses 4chan to advertise themselves, that's what usually happens.

>>3581809
i always wondered what makes one popular on these platforms. everyone does the same thing but not everyone is making millions with it

>The indie I've been following turned out to be a man
I'm not doing this shit ever again

>>3610255
Usually it's either a huge marketing budget or sheer luck. Of course making entertaining content is important, but those are the big differentiators.

>>3610329
So what, if you like them? If it's someone as entertaining as Avocado it's all good, isn't it.

She's playin harp and it's really nice. Come along if you want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSk81bxXGw0

>>3583899
why are weebs like this? non japanese people using japanese words randomly is probably the cringiest thing one could do

>>3610329
Why is that a barrier?

You're not like you're ever going to [date/have sex/get married] with/to any of them to begin with.
Neither will your superchats/donations buy you intimacy with them (and even if it would, would you really like to be with someone who came around you because you gave them some money anyway?);

Like, I genuinely don't get it. I

If you have fun watching the stream, just enjoy it. If you want to donate, donate to reward the entertaining times you had, or to support a bro in his hobby.

>>3588842
top sis cant even make it because her job doesnt allow her to
just watch her be cute

This thread is depressing as fuck but would make for an amazing wake up call for the wannabe/startup vtubers who post here. I've had the delusions myself sometimes because the Holos (and especially ENs) make it look so easy since many of them came from nothing, but they're the tiny minority. Most won't make it and will spend years with double digit viewers at best. Vtubers are already an oversaturated market, unless you're fucking amazing and have a great rig or do something interesting that sets you apart from the rest you're going to be one of those nobodies.

>>3612215
jp is way more saturated tho

>>3583928
The dude seems pretty chill. I might consider watching Niji male VTubers

>>3585299
Better to have views from retarded schizos than no views at all

>>3612215
>many of them came from nothing

That's extremely naive and uninformed.

Many, if not the overwhelming majority of them have been streaming for years, either as uitate or regular streamers - in certain cases with careers spanning over a decade. Some still have their other ventures out there - others followed the Japanese tradition of periodically wiping their accounts and restarting anew.

Some who were not streaming were in the business of creating content and entertainment and already had the discipline and dilligence required, needing some direction that management could give and promotion that a corporation can offer.

For some Hololive was a last-ditch effort (Sora, Suisei) even when they were corporate (Miko), and yet Hololive JP had shit viewership for quite a while.

>>3612215
>Vtubers are already an oversaturated market
Is there any market in the entertainment industry that isn't oversaturated? If someone wants to become a vtuber, regular streamer, singer, musician, whatever, I'd say go for it, you never know what can happen, nothing in this life is guaranteed.

>>3613210
>Is there any market in the entertainment industry that isn't oversaturated?
No, not really. Doesn't make sense to get into it unless you have a job and you're just in it for fun and not for numbers.

>>3581809
you know, it takes a certain amount of willpower to push through a year with single digit views of livestreaming.

its both mentally strong and mentally ill simultaneously

>>3583695
>>3583976
>>3585255
Banner proportions made some empty space vertically, I thought about putting a distorted Pekora but then I saw the post that was right after it.

>>3617899

>>3617899

>>3618283

>>3585494
Holy shit where do these guys get the confidence to put such ugly photos up?

>>3610491
>>3611673
The roommate is what gives the character personality and life. This disconnection ruins my immersion.

>>3610255
Building an audience takes both luck of the algorithm and a lot of hard work to maintain consistency, find a blue ocean niche, and the ability to present yourself in a friendly, engaging way, talking to yourself for long hours without running out of steam

>>3618524
They're less neurotic than you or me. But also less self-aware.

>>3618283
>>3618366
Not bad. But better to make the /vt/- Virtual youtuber bigger, since banner is adverstising this place assuming, and place it on the bottom. The other banners have white space too or at least enlarge the image and text to fit the size. Then it'll be perfect. Also, would be good to cut out the post number and shit. No need to feed anyone's ego and just keep anonymous. Otherwise a big ass 4chan would work too.

>>3621068

>>3621068
It looks empty without the post number

>>3621504

>>3612215
not Vtubers but PewDiePie stressed this out in his criticism on the "being shy is a superpower" video made by two famous YouTubers. It's a false promise to fame basically and only a small percentage truly make it

>>3581809
god i'm such a fucking bitch.
how do i stop being a savior?

>>3599487
least autistic man in Finaland

>>3621504
>>3621771
Yeah, these are perfect. You’re right about the post number without it looking empty. Now to find someway to send it in as advertisement for /vt/

>>3584716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEjtrFH6lA
>she plays dbd
Gura will play with anyone that plays this piece of shit. She should try and contact her.

>jp artists I like design vtuber
>artist themselves have pretty sizable follower count
>vtuber often falls much shorter

It hurts to see some of these girls not make it or just barely get any views, man.

>>3608932
Se all failed YUA, she was the original Spanish-japanese vtuber and now we only have cheap ones like coco or Anya...

>>3584681
I would say Eilene, but there have also been a lot of lesser known babiniku-type videos on Niconico years before the term vtuber even existed.

>>3632027
Or how about the reverse?
Where the girls are actually able to gain a good amount of traction and possibly even be able to become something of very well known because of said popular artist, as well as being entertaining, but they're in some company that fucks them so hard and constantly that they're practically obscure, to the point it's as if they're actively sabotaging the said girls. Having over 10k subs and gaining good amount but only able to have about 100 viewers at max every stream due to always having to guerrilla stream, no schedules posted despite being "managed", all their video being unlisted for god knows what reasons, and their said company being just so absolutely, utter shit that one of their talent whose entire character is supposed to be happy and energetic got depressed and nearly cried on stream due to thinking that she's a failure for not being monetized when she was long suppose to and with none of them being promoted in anyway despite desperately needed, especially one girl who don't have the advantage of said popular artist and is lagging behind by a huge, huge margin.
Which do you think is worse?

please stop appearing in my feed
it fucking hurts

>>3581809
Is it not kinder to just let them fail so that they stop wasting their time?

>>3640954
Is it a waste of time if they had fun?

>>3634594
Let me guess is this about Rena and the Jew girl?

>>3582960
>>3583051
Deploy the greentexts

>>3581809
The sad truth is that the demand for Vtubers is more than satisfied, and you can't save all of them, even if they deserve it.

>>3610255
Advertisement and memes, two things that hololive has plenty of for example.

as long as they are having fun, who cares

>>3641340
That's like saying that content that uses a face cam is more than satisfied. There are plenty of new successful youtubers every year that use a face cam. The same will apply to vtubers.

>>3641500
But the thing is that they all do pretty similar content, like playing games, singing, Duolingo etc.

>>3641523
That isn't a limitation of being a vtuber. Maybe some of them should take some inspiration from people who create content by capturing the real world. There is a large audience of people who want to see games, singing, duolingo, but it is competitive.

https://youtube.com/channel/UC5CwaMl1eIgY8h02uZw7u8A

It's not about saving in my case. Small indies interact with their chat much more.

>>3641523
That's cause most are just copying the hololive nijisanji model without giving it their own spin to be unique. You get a small amount of people that buy into your personality but doing the same stuff without a twist most people will just click off

>>3587422
I watched her talking stream and I didn’t notice anything, care to elaborate? Before I did my reps, I did thought that Amelia’s roomate was some variation of mulatto.

Neat chuuba though.

>>3581851
Grow up. People live and die without ever found any meaning like a dirt in every corners of the world.

Sub to my mother

>>3648858
looks pretty popular already

>millions of people get low view vtubers recommended
>nobody watches their stuff because nobody wants to be a saviorfag
>if people would just stop thinking about it for a second those small vtubers could actually raise decent numbers

Think about it. You know it's true. You are not the only person getting those 11 view streams recommended.

>>3649671
Is everyone supposed to view a dozen streams at the same time 24/7? It can't be done.

>>3649871
folks at /jp/ do it all the time when Hololive JP primetime is on

>>3649671
Kinda doubt that. I almost never get recommended even modestly successful indies. It's only happened once, and I suspect that's because she happened to fall into a category I was already Interested in (metal covers).

>>3582960
literally worse than hitler

>>3646042
She tends speak in falsetto, which triggers people's autism, because they think that's a "tranny voice", but when she drops the falsetto she sounds perfectly normal. He just has bad ears and /pol/ brainrot.

>>3599487
there is NOTHING wrong with being finnish

>>3649671
>millions of people get low view vtubers recommended
they dont.
>>3650767
Pretty sure everyone stopped that since the new youtube "features"
I only do it for twitch channels, t. wvt

>>3649671
it's because people see viewership numbers as a way to judge quality
if they get recommended a video from someone they never heard about and it has low views they just assume it's shit and don't click.
the only was to get around this is to have good thumbnails (clickbait) or get a bump from a bigger youtuber.

>accidently join a stream with no viewers
>girl notices me
>goes all "Oh hihihihihi~!!!!"
>leave

>>3655423
You monster

>its a king cover

>>3649671
If someone fails, it's because the recommendation algorithm isn't giving them enough attention. The reason people do poorly on youtube is not necessarily that they're bad at it, but that they don't get impressions.

>>3655926
Hundreds enter a super market each day.
The first area usually has all the vegetables and fruits.
Sometimes you get the situation where only one pack of apples, salad or others remains. Hundreds will go past that package and ignore it assuming there is something wrong with it - Because its the last one lying around.

It kinda works similar with streamers. If nobody is watching the stream one might assume that there is something wrong with it. Maybe the streamer isn't good - Maybe the content isn't appealing - Or the quality of the stream is bad. Thousands of people can see a stream with only 5-10 viewers and its highly unlikely that out of those thousands many will try out the stream.

>>3655423
Jesus. Calm down Dr.Lucius Adolf Cypher Von Satanious Mcdowager Doom, with a P.HD in Advance evil and triple Masters in human misery. Save some for tonight when you’re on scheduled to burn down an orphanage for kittens, puppies and bunny rabbits while also raping the nuns.

Protip: If you have less than ten live viewers it's not even you that is a problem, it's your utter lack of self-marketing skills

>>3656056
of course, but the reason it remained is pure chance and it's not that hundreds pass it, just a few people near the end of the day. 10 maybe.
Your analogy is exactly what I am talking about. These people don't get any impressions.

I want to be a saviorfag. How do I find random indie vtubers?

>>3657749
Twitter
try to filter out ENs tho

>>3606537
>mogeko
Speaking of her
https://www.youtube.com/c/funamuseacom/
>23k subs
>stream numbers live are like 80-100

>>3657915
What to search for

I have no money so i draw shitty fan art sometimes if I really like them then tweet at them
Also I started saviourfagging Kiara after seeing how vile the cgl roasties were toward her

>>3583928
>then why did they go to university in the first place? OOOOOOOOOOOOOF

>>3657749
Here's an okay starting point
In general you want to check out twitter
Alternatively if you can stomach twitch just scroll down until you hit sub 10 viewers streams

>>3582960
>>3583051

>>3658538
>check out a random live vtuber
>wait, why doesn't youtube show the amount of watching for this one
>oh

I can't stop saviourfagging

if I stop watching, there's no one to replace me and her dream will die

I have to keep giving her views and liking her streams until she's strong enough to stand on her own with a healthy audience and she won't even notice me leave

It's worse when people that get a spike in popularity through a collab with a bigger vtuber lose the momentum and return to old numbers. Sort of like what happened wit Desuwa fox girl after being on Haato's strim

>>3634594
who?

I wanted to saviorfag for these two but...

>indie viewer with 5 viewers is online
>collab with a male
>close stream

this is so fucking depressing
also e7 buff wut

>>3663030
fuck wrong pic

>>3640950
Delete your youtube history

>>3663030
nice tweet KEK

>>3661729
What happened? They look cute

>>3666128
Rummy and Coqui's characters are that they're (the only) members of a street gang that hangs out in a local arcade a lot. They have great models with a wide variety of expressions and great rigging. They also feature Krimbo, the purple lipped bara guy you've probably seen posted around, as the guy that owns their arcade. They started on youtube but have slowly transitioned over to Twitch so they can do twitch raids and more easily hang with other vtubers. They average between 30 - 50 viewers last I checked and have over 1k youtube subs.

Rummy on the left is massively debuffed by having an extremely weak PC that can barely run her model and any sort of game at the same time. Often she'll have to greatly reduce the resolution of her model or turn off its tracking completely and go static. Her personality is pretty abrasive and she's open talking about all sorts of odd things like her plans to get her tubes tied. She became a vtuber because Coqui wanted her to and she's pretty blasé about it all.

Coqui on the right is an absolute sweetheart and is very motivated and dedicated to vtubing. She does a lot of collabing with others and has a functioning computer, though she primarily streams ps1 era games. She's a big dork that cares more about having fun vtubing than growth or fame. She's the one that organizes everything between the two of them and seems to be the one bankrolling their stuff.

I used to be super into them but lost interest over time, though I still follower Coqui on twitter. One of my main reasons was the transition to twitch. I don't have anything against twitch but I primarily watch my tubers on youtube.

Here's a random Coqui clip.
https://youtu.be/kvIwz4HZmR4

>>3651543
>metal covers
Link NOW
If she has covers of any of the bands that I like, then I'll insta sub and become one of her regulars