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3534584 No.3534584 [Reply] [Original]

I wonder how many vtubers are tired of this shit.

>> No.3534611 [DELETED] 

>>3534584
Are her numbers so bad she wants saviourfags? Well it worked for Aki I guess

>> No.3534642

>>3534584
I forgot the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yExfbaz21Ns

>> No.3534966

>>3534611
cant you read

>> No.3534989

>>3534611
Saviourfags are only temporary, they leave you the second they find a new target for thir quick dopamine fix.
As for Aki, she is back at the absolute bottom of the JP side with miserable views

>> No.3535632

>>3534989
I would agree, except for the Deltafags. Those guys are not leaving anytime soon

>> No.3535687

Is she commenting on the irony?

>> No.3535994

Please Cover, for the love of god just nuke the clip channels, including the EN and ID ones. Get rid of the whole lot. At the very least do enough to remove their monetization, that will soon make them give up once they realize they can't earn easy money.

>> No.3536087

>>3535994
Do you not understand how many viewers clips bring?

>> No.3536145

>>3535994
As much as I dislike shitty clipfags, they are a necessary evil. Not just for hololive and other companies, but for spreading indies as well.

>> No.3536164

>>3534989
Now the original post is gone, but I'll just make it clear anyway that Flare is not one in need of "saviorfagging" if that was at all suggested. She makes extremely high superchat money among Holos and doesn't even need or want to beg for subs like Aki. She just felt she may have been seen in a negative light because of out of context clips and wanted to clarify her thoughts on it. She thanked a clipper, because she doesn't hate clippers. for translating it, that's really all there is to it.

>> No.3536199

>>3535994
Cover needs to start copyright claiming every single monetized clip video that gets uploaded. The only people that make out of context clips are people that are clickbaiting for revenue. They'll stop once they stop getting revenue, leaving only the people that make clips because they enjoy the content and are fans of the talents.

>> No.3536213

>>3535994
God forbid people who don’t know Japanese be able to watch and know what the holos are saying

>> No.3536236

>>3536164
>to beg for subs like Aki
Wait, she did?

>> No.3536276

>>3536236
She was extremely sad about her sub count on stream and started crying when saviorfags showed up in the next stream because the clip went viral.

>> No.3536290

>>3536087
Yes, I do understand and I've seen this argument many times. The problem is that it can also bring in idiots. If clippers were basically forced to only do it for the enjoyment of clipping and translating, and for sharing the chuubas they like, it would be a much more positive outcome. If monetization was removed from their channels the ones who are genuine would still put effort into what they clip and they wouldn't focus on clickbaiting and spamming the same shit over and over again. Those in Hololive might as well comission their own clippers too and have it published on their channel - Weekly "best of" clips would be just as popular and if you mix that in with genuin clip channels who don't do it simply for the money there would be far less of the shit that Flare is talking about in OPs video, while still bringing in an audience.

>> No.3536307

>>3536236
Reddit got ahold of a clip of her lamenting her small viewership (a clip that was already months old at the time people found it), which led to a giant surge of saviorfags who stuck around for a few weeks

>> No.3536316

>>3536087
How many? Do you have numbers?

>> No.3536408

>>3536307
they're still around.
i thought it'd be a pump and dump too but honestly her viewrship went up and a small portion of the savior fags stuck around.
if nothing else she has good relaxing singing stream and i really like her taste in music.
there's a stream in like 20 minutes if you're up for it.

>> No.3536420

A clipper translated Amelias “ground pound” to anal sex for jp which was fucked up but I don’t see Ame crying about it

>> No.3536434

>>3536236
No she didn't, she was talking about how she often felt like a failure for being the least subscribed holo despite being gen 1

>> No.3536462

>>3534584
But flare gets like 1 overseasfag clipping her?

>> No.3536464

>>3536420
In context that's not even inaccurate

>> No.3536500

>>3536290
retard

>> No.3536542

>>3536213
Unironically yes.

>> No.3536555

>>3536500
Not an argument. Have a nice day.

>> No.3536578

>>3536500
You sound pretty mad about potentially losing your revenue, clipfag. Guess you'll have to get a real job working as a jizz mopper in an Indonesian brothel instead.

>> No.3536579

>>3536420
Ame is an anti numberfag, so doesn't care if clips are positive or negative for her channel.

>> No.3536587

>>3536462
Flare collab clips are still Flare clips anon.

>> No.3536613

>>3534584
But it comes with the territory

>> No.3536794

>>3536290
>it can also bring in idiots
Idiots are the target audience

>> No.3536923

>>3534584
maybe stop saying shit can be put out of context

>> No.3536933

>>3535687
>complains about about of context clips
>clipper posts clip with context and link to entire video
>somehow this is ironic
Speedreader-kun, I...

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>>3536923
>maybe stop saying shit can be put out of context
Everything can be taken out of its context, are you high or just retarded?

>> No.3537024

>>3536290
the thing is that these types of channels are a plague. They are worse than cancer with metastasis, they would need more than one person exclusively searching and taking down these types of clips and channels and this is gonna get worse the more Hololive grows, it's inevitable and fighting it is impossible. The only solution I can see is giving a few truthful translators some kind of "badge" so that Cover knows they are goodwilled

>> No.3537152

>>3536290
Anything can bring in idiots, and you're the proof.

>> No.3537263

>>3537024
Or the community can blacklist bad translators as it already does like with OtakMori and Hololive Moments. You guys are reading way too much into a problem that's not really as widespread as you make it out to be.

>> No.3537354

>>3536966
No, anon... he's highly retarded.

>> No.3537478

>>3537263
OtakMori speedsubs and wins the algorithm race against more careful subbers, taking viewersip from them with a worse and sometimes drama inducing translations. Hololive Moments doesn't exists anymore so it doesn't matter

>> No.3537586

>>3537478
Exactly, but less and less people are watching OtakMori as his bad reputation spreads. I don't care if they make money off the videos as long as they're doing the best job they can, OtakMori is not that guy. In fact, I want him to stop clipping things altogether at this point.

>> No.3537876

>>3537586
new people to Hololive don't know this. They'll see a tranlation and simply watch it and unless they are in forums or the talents themselves talk about it or Cover takes them down, they probably will never know better

>> No.3537926

>>3537876
That's why I talked about the blacklist, that often extends to Cover. Let's be honest, if they wanted to they could just end his channel, but for some reason they haven't despite being aware of how bad he is. Idk why.

>> No.3538122

>>3536199
this

>> No.3538163

>>3534584
I don't get it.

>> No.3538237

>>3536276
Whatever happened to the phrase the numbers don't matter/it's not about numbers?

>> No.3538245

>>3537926
he got a second strike from them already, which limits his upload to one a week i think?
another strike and he's gone.

>> No.3538268

>>3536199
This sounds like a good idea on paper, but all it'll do is dissuade even good translators from wanting to clip anything. People don't just work from the kindness of their hearts or some shit, there has to be something in it for them. You know this, anon.

>> No.3538376

>>3538237
It's not all about numbers, but imagine working as hard as you can only to fall way behind people that debuted at the same time as and even after you. Could you honestly say you wouldn't be a little frustrated? I sure as hell would be.

>> No.3538414

>>3538245
It's actually one a day, which doesn't help much.

>> No.3538434

>>3538268
>People don't just work from the kindness of their hearts or some shit
The hell they don't. I watched anime for a really fucking long time before actual corporate created subtitles existed and I'm a JLPT N5 tier retard so it sure wasn't because I could understand what they were saying, it was because a bunch of guys with severe autism provided subtitles for the shows they liked.

>> No.3538504

>>3538434
I didn't mean literally everyone anon, I meant most people. You know that much is true because you called them a bunch of autists.

>> No.3538506

>>3538245
Start skimming his clips for anything that's possibly objectionable enough to report to Cover

>> No.3538530

>>3536307
It put her on the EOP map, where she still is today, just like Coco's meme review did for Azki.

>> No.3538533

Clippers will always exist, its not going to end unless Cover does some drastic shit like aggressive take downs but what would they gain by doing that? They would anger a big part of their community, and they would lose opportunities for reach. And sure there would be a lot of the core audience still with them not angry about "censorship" and "fair use" but that would be the same audience that is already watching them in the first place. They literally gain nothing by going against clippers while loosing reputation AND consumers.

The only people who would be happy are the 500 people here in this board and good luck justifying that.

The only real option is just teaching the talents that this shit happens, its fine if they don't like it and if they don't like one specific clip then they should be able to just take it down at their own discretion, but edits and out of context clipping will happen its par for the course of being an internet personality.

If you work as a bartender you're going to deal with drunks. It is as simple as that, yes, drunk sucks and they're annoying and the bar has the right to kick out any drunks they want. But you shouldn't be shocked if you're at 2 am serving drinks and a faggot throw ups on the floor.

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>>3535994
This. As a nijisanji shill who's being paid 5 bucks everyday to promote nijisanjism over the western part of the internet, Cover really needs to bring down those channels as they're detriment to our talents. Channels who cover nijis get to stay though because we need them.

>> No.3538545

>>3538533
/thread

>> No.3538546

>>3538506
that's shitty, I like it anon, that trash deserves it

>> No.3538550

>>3536923
keep clipping shit out of context, enjoy your takedown notices.
this is not negotiable

>> No.3538567

>>3535994
>>3536199
Both of you sound like the dinossaurs at nintendo who won't let people stream their games

Clips are necessary, they are FREE advertisement
a 1, 3, 10h stream will not get recommended by the youtube algorithm and the talent will not get new exposure thus they will not grow or grow way slower than they do now with clippers
Meanwhile a 2 to 5min clip WILL be picked up by the algorithm and be shoved on every one's face till they watch it.
A lot of people here found out about v-tubers by a clip I am sure of it, because YT will not promote the streams unless you are already watching them, and word of mouth only goes so far.
>b-but cover should do the clips themselves them
Yeah, pay a whole division to just clip random parts of a stream instead of getting it done for free by a bunch of autsits, some of these channels have clips up while the stream is still up, I doubt you could pay some one a realistic salary to do that kind of shit

tl;dr you need clippers just as much the video game industry needs streamers/letsplay/video game essay channels. It is free advertisement of the product they make.

>> No.3538583

>>3538543
>As a nijisanji shill who's being paid 5 bucks everyday to promote nijisanjism
how do I get hired?

>> No.3538604
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I mean I hate that my feed is already getting flooded with utter garbage
1. echi 18+ thumbnail
2. title description[gone sexual]
3. clip is so far removed from anything in the title and isn't even clipped correctly (loads of dead air)
I don't disagree with people making clips of their favourite moments and sharing them but something rubs me the wrong way with all these clickbait titles and it seems less about having an archive of hololive moments and more about baiting views from horny children.

>> No.3538620

>>3538604
It's unironically both.

>> No.3538627

>>3534989
We saviorfags are the unsung heros. We find a chuuba who’s struggling and using all our strength we sacrifice our free time to lift them up by shilling them and making them feel loved, and protect them. But it’s also a curse, for once our job is done and they have a nice community, we must leave them forever to find some other chuuba in need. Similarly to great men such as Jesus, saviorfags bear the pain and strife of ALL small vtubers until they finally see the light
Next time youre about to make fun of us remember how much we sacrifice, remember how sad we feel when we have to move on from a saved chuuba.

>> No.3538631

>>3538567
>b-but cover should do the clips themselves them
People already complain about Cover not doing shit and they still expect them to waste even MORE time making clips? Also could you imagine how sterile and safe the Cover clips would be?

>> No.3538645

>>3538583
Tag Hana Macchia on twitter with your dick pic and she'll DM you with all the necessary info

>> No.3538699

>>3534584
it's as immature as complaining about backseating. As a chuuba you have to get used to this shit. It's not even limited to tl channels as the JPs made up a word for Malicious Clipping

>> No.3538726

>>3538543
shitty speed subbers also exist in Niji. ppl got so mad at one of them that he outright changed his channel name

>> No.3538741

>>3538699
It's part of the streamer life, really.

>> No.3538794

>>3534584
I don't even know why flare is bitching.
Literally everything that exists is out of context. Even that clip is out of context.

>> No.3538806

>>3538546
I actually reported one, but I don't remember what clip it was exactly. He actually took down a clickbait clip he had of Noel taken out of context after he got struck for the Miko video. He 100% knows what he's doing is objectionable.

>> No.3538839

Unfortunately the only thing you can do is wait for them to upload something incorrect or totally egregious and then report to Cover. Do your part to fight the clipfag menace.

>> No.3538843
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3538843

>Flare being very obvious that she's talking about twitter clippers that make little 1 minute clips at best, and also only in Japanese as she doesn't understand any other languages clips
>/vt/ has an entire thread about en clippers bad

???

>> No.3538865

>>3538631
as much as /vt/ hates v-shoujo, they do have their own corporate clipper that uploads on their youtube channel, as well clips on the talent's channels
they are not as funny or entertaining as the non corporate clippers
Cooksie does a better job than who ever clips v-shoujo so much that he became a meme in zen's streams and the same moments he clips when they do show up on an official clip, are sanitized to make the talent look more marketable.
Now this is with a company that is more than ok with their girls act like sluts on camera, imagine how much more dull and sterile would Hololive inhouse clipper be

>> No.3538887

>>3538533
This

>> No.3538909

>>3538843
Hey man, at least it's a discussion and not mindless shitflinging this time.

>> No.3538927

>>3538631
Cover does have clips on their official channel and they weren't afraid to go a little yab like that one comparing talents at debut to what they are now

>> No.3538930

>>3538865
this is what I was thinking as well. For the clips to be enjoyable it still needs to be done by fans.

>> No.3538949

>>3538865
That's just poor management on the part of vshoujo. The way to do it is to hire a few clippers on a short-term contract basis, keep some of the ones that perform well at the end of the contract, and then replace the ones that don't. You keep doing that until you have a clipper staff that produces premium content. Since none of the clippers you hire will even know who the other clippers are they wont even know this process is going on.

>> No.3538991

>>3538865
they still have non-official clips. So even with their own clippers on pay roll they still leave the others alone and the non-official ones get same or even more views.

>> No.3539012

>>3536290
>The problem is that it can also bring in idiots
Vtubers automatically imply bringing in idiots
How the fuck can a well adjusted person think there's something healthy about watchign someone roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality?

>> No.3539071

>>3539012
>How the fuck can a well adjusted person think there's something healthy about watchign someone roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality?
You just described most actors, anon. Have you never watched a movie?

>> No.3539080

>>3536542
Chinese hands wrote this post

>> No.3539203

>>3539071
>roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality
>actor

What fucking movie does this?
>The actor is a man who plays a man, therefore he's portraying a personality trait!
Retard

>> No.3539313

>>3539203
Roleplay - act out or perform the part of a person or character. (dictionary definition).

Literally Iron Man, and many onther characters are based off their actors personality. Don't call me a retard when you can't connect the dots of very basic logic, anon.

>> No.3539396

>>3539012
Normies are not the well adjusted people they pretend to be

>> No.3539427

>>3539203
>What fucking movie does this?
All of them? How the fuck would you want any actor to completely remove himself from his performance? "Acting" isn't fucking magic.

>> No.3539478

>>3536420
That's not too far from the truth though

>> No.3539493

The problem I have with clippers is that the algorithm inevitably leads their viewers towards doxx videos. Because there is such an overlap of people watching watching them both that the algorithm starts reccomending the doxx videos.

>> No.3539528

>>3539493
That's not the clippers' fault, Youtube is just retarded.

>> No.3539595

>>3539528
No, it's doxx videos modeling themselves as clippers and using the same metatags

>> No.3539602

>>3536462
JP clippers exist.

>> No.3539645

>>3539595
Oh really? That's kinda fucked. Doxxers should be purged.

>> No.3539663

>>3539313
>>3539427
True, I forgot Thanos/Joker/Darth Vader/Yoda/Batman/Han Solo/James Bond/Travis Bickle/Patrick Bateman/John Rambo/Marty McFly/Rocky Balboa/Buzz Lightyear/Frodo Baggins/Every movie character ever were based off of the actors.
I completely forgot that actors don't audition for parts.
I completely forgot that actors who get direct casted for roles do so not for acting abilities, because they're the exact same.

I absolutely forgot that actors who resemble the character actually aren't the minority.

>> No.3539692

>>3534989
If your argument was true, Uto wouldn't be swimming in popularity so many months in

>> No.3539747

>>3539663
>>3539663
>James Bond, Rocky Balboa, John Rambo, Han Solo, Marty McFly, and Buzz Lightyear
>not exhibiting traits of their actor
Yeah, you aren't too bright are you?

>> No.3539800

>>3539313
>"Downey wasn't the most obvious choice, but he understood what makes the character tick. He found a lot of his own life experience in 'Tony Stark'"
Acting is about pretending, having an easier time pretending doesn't mean it's based off of you, don't make shit up

>>3539427
Because it's "acting" you're not a real serial killer because you portray one.

>> No.3539831

>>3539663
>Imma toss out a bunch of names and hide behind my mountain of bullshit, so you can't possibly take time refute every single character.
Fuck off.

>> No.3539883

>>3539747
From
>roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality
to
>not exhibiting traits of their actor
You sure know how to move the goalpost

But assuming you're not pretending, an actor relating to a role =/= the actor using their own traits over a script

Hololive is live, there is no script therefore character traits are literally the exact same due to the voice actor performing on the spot
Movies are recorded and scripted, having experiences similar to a character is not the same thing as the character literally being you

>> No.3539985

>>3536213
Yes. Learn japanese, fag

>> No.3540015

>>3539663
>>3539663
>Thanos/Joker/Darth Vader/Yoda/Batman/Han Solo/James Bond/Travis Bickle/Patrick Bateman/John Rambo/Marty McFly/Rocky Balboa/Buzz Lightyear/Frodo Baggins/Every movie character ever were based off of the actors.


Watch Rocky and Rambo one after the other and tell me they have nothing in common. Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Bond and any other Connery movies afterward. Elijah wood as Frodo then in Sin City. They litteraly had two different people play Darth Vader and anybody not retarded will still find element of Vader in fucking Thulsa Doom.
>>3539800
>Because it's "acting" you're not a real serial killer because you portray one.
Obviously not. But that has nothing to do with hat I said.

>> No.3540086

>>3539800
I didn't say it was literally based on them, but they inevitably exhibit parts of their actor's personality especially as they continuously play that role. You know there's a lot of truth in the overlap between acting and roleplay, but you're being purposely obtuse because your "no well-adjusted individuals would watch roleplay" makes it so you can't go back on your stance.

>> No.3540208

>>3539883
>You sure know how to move the goalpost
From your first post...
>How the fuck can a well adjusted person think there's something healthy about watchign someone roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality?
You moved the goalposts from a character with traits of their actual personality, to characters based directly on them. That's why this dumb argument is still going.

>> No.3540569

>>3539883
>>3540208
Seems like this was just a misunderstanding between two faggots. Them clippers tho.

>> No.3540580

>>3536213
But you don't know what the holos are saying, because most clippers are donig a shitty translation job.

>> No.3540625

>>3535994
Bad take. I'm a chuuba fan because of clips. It's babbie's intro to VT

>> No.3540651

>>3536290
Small elite group of fans vs a larger demographic. VT and especially hololive are too big to be niche audience anymore.

>> No.3540669

>>3536213
Most clippers do a dog shit job of translating.
The issue is the good translators put out a clip a week/month.

>> No.3540702

>>3536316
It was about 20k supposedly.

>> No.3540755

>>3538533
Anon you took the words out of my frontal lobe lmao

>> No.3542908

>>3536087
Is that really a good thing?

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>>3536542
>>3539985
>>3540580
>i want to kill hololive growth because I'm mad at clip fags

/hlgg/s hypocritical relationship with clips will always be a weird one. This entire board, the branch you watch religiously, would not exist without them. Your entire hobby would not exist.

>> No.3543464

>>3542908
If you want to pay your janitor, yes.

>> No.3543733

>>3543418
The fuck are you talking about? Fubuki's memery (and covid) is responsible for the Holos growth in the west, unless you think Im.Scatman needed any subtitles.

Besides that, 80% of the current clip cancer are guys who came up way later to cash in on the holos trend. They basically shit out low-tier content as fast as they can because people watching them can't know any better.

>> No.3543851

As necessary as clips are for the advertisement of Hololive it's fucking sickening seeing random clips of things everyone should have watched get more views than some original songs holos produced.

>> No.3543904

>>3538237
They were going to fire her the numbers were that abysmal. Her manager obviously talked to her to tell her that she wasn't performing up to par.

>> No.3544000

>>3543904
source or rrats

>> No.3544043

>>3538645
How long does it usually take her to reply?

>> No.3544064

>>3544000
Watch the stream that's being referenced. Aki herself hints at this. Calls herself an employee that's not performing. Japanese bery subtle pls undasutando

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>>3534584
The only thing more annoying than clipperniggers and clipfags are those who complain about them

>> No.3544124

>>3538583
Check the niji site they had job openings. They hired some guy to make translated clips of their streamers but on the side the same guy makes hololive translated clips for free lol
Paid by niji, but real passion for holo and DOES IT FOR FREE

>> No.3544134

>>3544064
so, you just assume that was going to happen despite never being said outright

>> No.3544153

>>3535994
>please cover nuke your free advertisement
Minecraft sold millions for a reason

>> No.3544214

>>3544134
Lol look at this autism riddled tard that needs everything spelled out in black and white. Do you need post-its everywhere to remind you to breathe too?
lmao

>> No.3544284

>>3544134
>I don't understand that Japanese may as well be Implying implications made into a language system.

EOPs keep on losing, I see.

>> No.3544286

>>3544214
>read between the lines, it's clear what she's saying
ok buddy, I trust your words. I need to believe some random anon who makes rrats even though still Holostars exists and some are probably not performing half as good as Akirose was at the time of that talk

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Poor Fuhrea...

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As long as the translation is well done and has enough context i really dont give a shit.

Not saying all of them are professional like the translations that groups do for Gamecenter CX. Nobody on /v/ gives a fuck what group translates Gamecenter as long as its accurate.

>> No.3544517

>>3534584
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MUH OUT OF CONTEXT CLIPS
why are japanese such crybabies?

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>>3538627
Based SaviorChad

>> No.3546286

>>3543733
> Fubuki's memery (and covid) is responsible for the Holos growth in the west
Add Korone and the whole Covid situation to that. It was a perfect storm.

>> No.3546556

>>3538631
>Also could you imagine how sterile and safe the Cover clips would be?
They arent going to get the really spicy stuff, but they could still clip the safe meme shit like Korones Eekum Bokum stuff

>> No.3546580

>>3538567
>Yeah, pay a whole division to just clip random parts of a stream instead of getting it done for free by a bunch of autsits, some of these channels have clips up while the stream is still up, I doubt you could pay some one a realistic salary to do that kind of shit
I've seen youtubers as low as 60k subscribers hire editors. All of the hololive girls have a good income or a side gig along with it for the small ones, there's zero reasons they individually have not hired their own editors to make clip content for the crowd that can't catch streams. Having stuff go back to the original channel instead of through middlemen will boost the channels so much more.

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>>3543851
>tfw noel's fanmade king is mogging alot of official king covers

>> No.3546686

>>3546556
No no, you see, that might be copyright so its a no go. Yes we do have the permissions for the game but to be safe we can't show anything related to it outside a gameplay stream. Please andastand.

>> No.3546702

>>3546686
Good point, I need to think with the special Cover dunce hat on better

>> No.3546721

>>3546580
>there's zero reasons they individually have not hired their own editors to make clip content for the crowd that can't catch streams.

Getting into a partnership with a random on the internet can be pretty dangerous these days. Specially for talents who already are working with supposed anonymity.

Ame has talked about hiring a clipper on her own, and every time she complains about how much trouble it would just end up being.

>> No.3546741

>>3546580
Its a good point. Not only VT, podcasters create clips of their own show and upload it themselves. It makes sense.

But I'd argue that the current clipper environment allows some of the better content to rise to trending, better than an inhouse editors with under creative control of the chuuba herself. For better or for worse (Mistranslations and clickbait)

>> No.3546779

>>3546721
It's the same issue with mods.
You don't want to get unlucky and accidentally hire the mod that wants to fuck you or be your friend.

>> No.3546787

No real issue with clips. Its just like when Americans become "radicalized" into racists after seeing a few clips online. Inoffensive really

>> No.3546845

>>3546787
explain this comparison further

>> No.3546986

>>3546845
The girls get these annoying images attached to them from popular clips. I've noticed it's very similar to the way you often see American kids getting radicalized by the images created from a few clips of some black dude doing something. It's such a fleeting and superficial development that it never actually means anything though. When has it ever been a real issue, other than being mildly annoying? The girls are simply nitpicking when they complain about clippers.

>> No.3547062

>>3536408
Aki worked well on that, she created an atmosphere new fans could like quickly. Her JP fans are also understanding, they accepted overseas viewers easily

>> No.3547469

>>3546986
Eh, I wouldn't say that kids getting radicalized by out of context clips is something fleeting. Also these girls and boys work with their image and sometimes that might make them look bad in the eyes of possible sponsorship deals, so they have to be careful about what image they give to the fans and clippers might exacerbate negative aspects even further and, again, make them lose possible sponsors

>> No.3547624

>>3539012
>think there's something healthy about watchign someone roleplay a fictional character with traits of their actual personality?
The vtubers are actors and most of their personality is bullshit. Stop equating vtuber's vice actors with the character.

>> No.3547669

>>3546741
They don't even have to be the small minute long clips that are around currently. Twitch/Streaming highlights are some of the hottest gaming videos on Youtube right now, hiring an editor to make 15-30min highlights of their longer stream can generate huge views. Pretty much the entire among us boom on youtube are these kinds of videos.

>> No.3547712

>finding this clip
How much does Flare egosa? I thought most holos were above that.

>> No.3547731

>>3536307
>>3536276
Look at these fucking niggers. Complaining about clipfags taking things out of context and they literally do just that themselves. Fuck you morons.

>> No.3547742

>>3547712
>I thought most holos were above that.
What gave you that idea? I explicitly remember Pekora mentioning that she does it, and I assume a ton more have. How many people could resist?

>> No.3547838

>>3547742
Once you become popular enough there is little reason to. I just think Flare is going too far if she finds an EOP clip about this with less than 1000 views within hours of it being uploaded.

>>3544286
They don't put the same investment into holostars that they do Akirose.

>> No.3547841

>>3538843
Globalfags really hate clippers because they're "stealing views" or some shit. Just ignore them, like always they know fuck all about Hololive and don't even realize there are twice as many JP clip channels as there are EN ones.

>> No.3547922

>>3538543
based vshojo falseflagger

>> No.3547944

>>3547841
Globalfags really like finding excuses to shit on other globalfags because they want to prove they're "good gaijins"

>> No.3547967

>>3547944
>"good gaijins"
No such thing. You're either trash or annoying trash.

>> No.3547984

>>3547967
I feel like you missed the point of what I was saying impressively hard

>> No.3547986

>>3547944
in b4 the "you will never be Japanese" cope reply

>> No.3548309

>>3544393
She is so goddamn beautiful. How do I cope that she will never be mine?

>> No.3548326

>>3547984
No, I got it. I am just saying there is no such thing as a good gaijin.

>> No.3548338

>>3538627
Nani sonna kanashii me... masaka! Hokuto Shinken ougi: Musou Tensei!

>> No.3548523

>>3534642
stop posting out of context clips

>> No.3548535

>>3547838
>They don't put the same investment into holostars that they do Akirose.
What investment are they making? As far as I know is a one-time investment and everything else is profit. It's cheap to maintain, apart from the minimum wage that they pay each talent every month. They have no reason to fire her, if they do fire her however they will never make a profit, so it's better if they simply let her be until she catches momentum

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>>3536307
no kidding

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>>3549066
Cut it out faggot.

>> No.3549509

>>3544043
45 minutes tops

>> No.3549535

>>3539203
>>The actor is a man who plays a man, therefore he's portraying a personality trait!
That is pretty much sinefield and every sitcom after it

>> No.3549725

>>3546580
Low subs YouTubers do that because the algorithm is not pushing their longer main videos.
And since they don't have the massive autistic loyal fanbase to create clippers, they rather do their selves (and in the event they do get a clipper, it is usually just one who is more of a leach for content than actually helping promote the YouTuber's content)

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Seeing that /cgl/ Kiara anti post on /v/ shitting on her life made the saviorfag inside me pop out
I hope she gets happy and all her antis get mad

>> No.3551870

Cover laziness as always. Nijisanji has their own official clip channel. why dosen't hololive have one?

>> No.3552074

>>3551870
Why do one when autists do it for free?

>> No.3556212

>>3551870
And that's why Nijisanji is not even considered in the youtube algorithm.

>> No.3556287

flare really likes complaining a lot. Most of the clips youtube recomends me of her are of her whining

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>>3539985
>>3536542

>> No.3558575

>>3534584
I thought that was the whole point of clipping was making up shit.

>> No.3559382

>>3546986
I'm racist because I went to a black school so stfu.

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