/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Where's the diss track kronii?

women that talk with a vocal fry are cunts

4:20
that's the only timestamp you need for Stoneronii

holoEN is a joke. mori that signed up thinking idols suck and almost became the most popular, nepotism hires like sana that got kicked out, ame pushing for holostars unity...compare that to sora or early joiners like okayu mio or korone, they didn't know what they were getting into and ended up like fantastic entertainers still streaming long hours years after. Cultural appropriation is an unfixable mistake due to capitalism and globalization. Everything will mesh into one shit culture.

>>34227854
cool

>>34227854
That has to be the gayest post I’ve ever seen on this board

>>34227854
>Cultural appropriation is an unfixable mistake due to capitalism and globalization
But, Japan's modern culture is like 80% copied from the west, starting from anime that were heavily inspired by Disney, to boy/girl bands that just got put on steroids in certain Asian countries and got turned into idols. They now have porn idols too. Wtf is a porn idol anyways? She is just a girl that sucks dick, but get this, SHE IS AN IDOL because we said so!

>>34227854
EN1 got into Hololive with no idea where they'll end up. Some of them even expected getting ID(2020) numbers or less and had goals like "100k subs".

>>34227363
DUDE
SUBWAY
LMAO

>>34227854
>Cultural appropriation
you have no power here twitter tranny

>>34227363
>rich and popular
>literally paid for existing
>still a depressed menhera that doesn't produce anything
I'm starting to really hate streamers. Is this how peasants felt when they revolted against royalty?

>>34228699
no because peasants never revolted against royalty since they're brainless NPCs, every "peasant's revolt" in history was a merchant's revolt

>>34228699
>Is this how peasants felt when they revolted against royalty?
No, because they were still poor after the revolt.

>>34228760
>>34228762
Fair points kek

Kronii should have been my girlfriend. Everything would have been perfect then

>>34227854
Nobody cares what you think. You're a loser

>>34227363
I hate the way she speaks, she always sounds either bored or super sarcastic
>b-but her voice is sex!!!
stfu, Im talking about the way she speaks, not her tone

>>34227363
The funniest part for me is where she realized parasocials are indeed real and her fanbase is 80% that.
She truly did not believe people can have feelings for anime girls streaming on the internet

>>34229075
This but me

>>34227854
fag

>>34227420
Dasha is my slag love, I won't let you talk about her like this

content creator that despises it's own fanbase end up suffering more than anyone from said fanbase, proven time and time again with failures like wings, dsp, ricegum, foosey, boogie and other fuckers who thought they can take people for granted.

>>34229616
>ricegum's gone for good? Man, that's awesome.

>>34229616
Any evidence that she despises her fanbase? This may be a suprise but 4chan doesn't make up for the majority of holofans. Also you retards have been saying that Mori will gratuate for what, 2 years now? Yet she is still here, doing the same things.

>>34230027
>Any evidence that she despises her fanbase?
how fucking new?

>>34230027
Mori is only still here, because of the UMG contract. Kronii is just confused, she made a choice "put her own happiness, first", but she only seems to be more depressed, since making that decision.

>>34229135
You cared enough to reply

>>34227854
>Cultural appropriation is an unfixable mistake
Cultural appropriation is good. Unfortunately Kronii, Ame, Mori, and Bae appropriated the wrong culture.

>>34230218
What are you talking about? Strong wahmen who don't need to /mans/ can never be depressed. Twitter told me so.

Also, twitter and r/holo are constantly supporting her, literally every waking moment. She's the happiest she can ever be. Unicorns totally BTFO'd

>>34230081
I have been watching Mori since day 1, been my most favourite EN until Council. I have seen her many yabs on witter, I have listened to her music, seen her collab with males and verything she has done, and I did never feel that she hated me, so you tell me.
>>34230218
So you think hololive would fire her, why? They have never repremanded Mori and only supported her and now even Kronii. Also Kronii seems fine, still depressed but she is happy when she collabs with starts, I think it's good for her.

>>34227854
You were almost onto something until you somehow likened this whole phenomenon to an issue solely associated with capitalism, please remove yourself from existence immediately

>>34230027
About Mori? She doesn't hate her "fanbase", she simply only likes "true" deadbeats and true deadbeats are simply the people that follow both accounts and never say anything bad about either

>>34230398
wow. rare to see the 'cuck and proud' attitude. Bruh...

>>34230635
What do you mean? It's been all over the fucking board in recent weeks. It's the only way for them to cope.

>>34228175
Anon you should should try posting after you turn 18 years old

>>34230398
Fire? Not unless she really yabs, but another management imposed vacation seems highly likely next month. If she wants to spam Tempus collabs she should do it, but I imagine even the boys are getting sick of her.

>>34230570
What's wrong with that exacly? I see noone here arguing that holo shoudn't be able to create any audiance they want, so why can't a holo create a positive experience with the chat, ranther then a negative one?
>>34230635
Hmm yes, I am somehow a "cuck" yet I don't even have a oshi, much less being in love with any holo. Tell me more shizo.
>>34230830
Pretty sure the boys and any girls she invites can just say no to her, I realy hope you don't belive that Mori is forcing people into collabs like some retards do, becouse there is litelary 0 evidence for that.

>>34230830
I'd imagine most men would get sick of her attitude pretty quickly.

>>34230398
>They have never repremanded Mori
That was due to Mori having a personal manager who got her back
And the fact that it happened right as her music deal was finishing up, so management just wanted go pretend nothing was wrong
There is not proof that Kronii has the same protection from getting bonked by management as Mori had so far

>>34230412
globalization is an effect of capitalism
normies can't stand different people having different opinions and ideas
globalization+normification is what destroys every hobie, niche, subculture, and everything that is good
worth to mention, without capitalism we wouldn't have any of this either, which I think is what you where going for, but that's besides the point

>>34230928
Mori said she literally dragged Kronii to the dbd collab. Of course, Kronii eventually said yes, but that was because of heavy peer pressure.

>>34230928
>so why can't a holo create a positive experience with the chat, ranther then a negative one?
Yeah, why can't she? Why is Mori so shit at doing something so simple? She's always reading negative comments in her chat and killing the mood for everyone.

>>34230766
Everything I said is correct and your post literally doesnt make sense in this context. You are a literal 4chan NPC posting that shit out of context.

>>34231051
Why would they bonk Kronii tho, so far her yab has been her collabing with starts and then pretty much saying "fuck you" to unicors, which Hololive supported, I don't personaly see any other yabs in the future for her so I don't wowrry.
>>34231167
Pretty sure she was just exaggerating for comedy effect.
>>34231195
Personaly I don't see that often when I watch her, almoust never, you should stop watching only clips of her anon.

>>34230398
>I did never feel that she hated me, so you tell me.
This psychotic bitch ended the stream multiple times just based on something that one or two people in her chat were saying. So why would she ruin a good time for thousands of her fans just because of a few bad apples? Because she loves you all, right? Holy mother of cope.

>>34231195
>"hey you are doing too many adam sandler and shrek "jokes" "
>shits herself and doubles down/ruins the mood for the rest of the stream
yea she's shit and I'm glad I gave up on her

>>34231392
>I don't personaly see any other yabs in the future for her so I don't wowrry.
Guess we will need to wait and see, the way she handled this entire affair makes me think she will spiral out control if management dont put their foot down.

>>34230412
Thank God it's over

>>34231457
So do you think she did that becouse she hated us and didn't want us to watch her? What's next, you will claim that she set up those massages? If any of that was true then she would do it more often don't you think.
>>34231595
That is true, she handeled that terrible but that was he only big yab so far (unlessed I missed something) Compare to how many yabs Mori has that's nothing.

>>34230398
>They have never repremanded Mori
By her own admission she was constantly arguing with management back in either October or November about stupid shit like trying to force her Charlie collab through, to the point that the current members at the time had to tell her to stop. You’d know this if you were an actual day 1.

>>34231829
When has arguing with managment has been some major yab? She isn't the only one who has done that you know.

>>34231932
Thank you for moving the goalpost.

>>34231932
>she was never reprimanded
>she was <example>
>so what's so bad about it anyways?
kek, retard
you can't argue with deadcucks

>>34230928
>I see noone here arguing that holo shoudn't be able to create any audiance they want
I'll argue that. This is not some random ass streaming job, this is vtubing, specifically Hololive. The audience is primarily lonely men who want a soothing experience of watching anime girls being cute for a while. You apply to work at a company, you fall in line with what that company does and you get a LIMITED amount of freedom to customize your activities within that scope. If you don't like the job description then don't fucking apply. If you want full freedom to do whatever you want and gear your content to other types of audience, don't fucking apply.

>>34231932
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone fail so miserably at following their own argument

There's an actual cuckbeat here who keeps refreshing the board to see new replies to this thread, so they could immediately argue in her defence. You can't make this shit up.

Then again, it's also hilarious.

>>34227363
>starting with this slop
>and not starting with IM SETTING BOUNDARIES, I AM NOT YOUR MOTHER

>>34229616
It's honestly, not her fans or ex-fans causing her problems. It's mostly fans of other EN chuubas or just tourists that want to dunk on her.

>>34232044
>>34232169
I never agred she was reprimanede, since there isn't any evidence outside for it. You want to also claim that Coco was reprimaneded everytime she argued with managment?
>>34232051
The only problem with your argument is that Hololive desideds what the talents can and can't do, not people on 4chan. If hololive is fine with holostar collabs, while clearly many people here are againts them, hololive will still allow them. Same with Mori, they are clearly fine with whatever Mori wants to do, no matter how much you argue, nothing will chamge. If you want talents to be more limited, blame Hololive, not Mori.

>>34232451
>>34231995
just give up cuckbeat
nobody here treats you or your slut seriously

>>34232451
>more goalpost moving
kek, retard [2[

>>34232566
>>34232633
Ok let me explain this clearly you retards.
You claim that while arguing with managment she was repremanded for it, while another talent (Coco) who was famous for arguing with managment, was never repramaneded for it, and even selebrated for it. Arguing with managment is normal within companies.

>>34227363
Wada and Pako are shit artists

>>34232753
>repramaneded
>selebrated
nice English, Jose
almost as nice as your headcanon

>>34232753
>Arguing with managment is normal within companies
t.ESL that never worked in his life
kek, retard [3]

>>34227854
>Culture appropriation
Found the American culture terrorist who wants to erase all culture in the world except for American culture under the guise of "doing good"

>>34232842
Oh sorry, knowing speaking 3 diferent languages is quite hard, but you woudn't unserstand that.
>>34232892
Meaby not in every company, but as seen by the Coco example, that you retars are ignoring, hololive talents definatly can argue with managment.

>>34228760
>t.doesnt know history

>>34233020
You should try for fluency in just one of those languages first.

>>34233020
Coco got boxed in so hard by the management that she chose to graduate. Why the fuck do you keep bringing her up as some kind of "success story" in arguing with your managers?

>>34232836
Wada Wau is a good artist desu.

>>34233020
>know in 3 languages is hard
Yeah alright Google translate and half effort ESL count as knowing three languages

>>34233106
I already can speak fluently my mother language, czech. Engligh is my 2nd language and German is 3rd.
>>34233216
Coco never was boxed in, she just didn't like the restrictions that were present for all talents, hololive had no reason to try to make her graduate.

>>34233336
Já umím mluvit česky určitě lépe než vy blbci umíte mluvit anglicky.

>Czech
Laughing.

>>34233483
That's probably the one thing know how to do, becouse making arguments is just too hard for retards like you.

>>34233440
Do you even know what the fuck "boxed in" means? Is this how ESLoids argue? By being obtuse and obstinate?

>>34233569
I understood it as her being restricred by rules, Which to be fair, she had many restrictions, but I don't think hololive would restricted her to make her leave or to punish her for arguing with them.

I hope she never stops trying to "own the haters" it's so entertaining to watch the self destruction.

>>34231932
Rushia...

>>34233898
She has been self destructioning for 2 years now by what /vt/ claims. I am only a retard and not a schizo but I imagine it would get boring after a while, no?
>>34233997
Rushia was fired becouse of her leaking information, not arguing with managent.

>>34234082
Her viewership is at near rock bottom in EN, only Kronii has less hours watched and that's because of her breaks.
And before you come up with a cope that she doesn't stream that many hours, fucking roboco beat her with about similar hours. The only thing keeping her channel alive are her old songs that everyone keeps giving views

>>34227363
her voice grates my ears so bad. like to the point I can’t watch other holos if they’re collabing with her because her normal speaking and laughing is like nails on chalkboard. she can do a low and slow voice that’s kinda nice, like she did for that chrono toothpaste but, but man that’s like night and day compared to her shrill ass normal voice.

>>34234440
Nah I have far better "cope" prepared:
1: All of EN has been losing views the last few months, even Gura.
2: Most of hew money comes from music, so why would she care if she has less hours watched.
3: Considering how Mori likes her chat clean, I think she would prefer less views over having more retars or trolls in chat.

>>34234620
that's why Kronii trying to put up a Mori is not a good idea, Mori has his music to fall back on, music fans are used to way more drama than anything Mori would provide, but What does Kronii have?

>Tell me why! It's the least you can do for me now! I'm your oshi! We're supposed to look out for each other! Why were you working against me, /vt/?
>You're not a real idol.
>I'm what?
>YOU'RE NOT A REAL IDOL! Dead by Daylight collab with StarsEN for Christ's sake? With Mori? What a joke. I worked my ass off to find my GFE vtuber oshi! And you take this Mori collab and you think suddenly you're my oshi? You laugh loud when interacting with that blue homo and you think you are an idol because you're funny and you can make people laugh? I committed my life to this! You don't... slide into it like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards!
>I thought you were proud of me...
>I was! When you straightened out and formed that Yuri pairing with Mumei I was very proud.
>So that's it then, right? Keep old Kronii down in the GFE room 'cause they're not good enough to be an idol if they do collabs with men?
>I know you. I know what you were, what you are—people don't change, you're Sluttin' Kronii! And Sluttin' Kronii I can handle just fine but Sluttin' Kronii with a homo collab is like a chimp with a machine gun! The unicorns are sacred! If you abuse that power people get hurt! This is not a game! You have to know — on some level I know you know I'm right! You know I'm right!
>I... I got you a twenty pound bag of chicken teriyaki sandwich from subway and some eggs. A couple of those meatball marinara that you like, some lube canisters, enough for three or four weeks. After that... you're on your own. I am done.

>>34234620
Pretty good cope aside from the first one, she's still the lowest viewed in EN aside from Kronii right now and she used to be top 1-2. EN reclined and she reclined even more than everyone

>>34227363
Why does she talk like a 40 years old hagged woman?

>>34234816
Kronii still has kronies, and she has still good numbers, I don't see why that would change.
>>34234918
Like I said, who cares that she has low viewers outside of numberfags, Mori doesn't care since she still makes a shit ton of money from her Music, hololive never cared that much about views since they keep making the less popular holostars.

>>34234082
She was leaking information about her arguing/getting harassed by a manager.

>>34235101
Yes and? Her problem was leaking the information, not arguing with managment.

>>34235070
Not sure if this is your cope or hers but she's a streamer foremost, her music sells because she is a popular streamer
Popularity as a streamer = popularity of her music
Her music is the least popular it's been and it's because she's becoming more unpopular as a streamer, so yes, she should care
>inb4 umg deal
Straight up her least popular album and she lost her indie musician cred

>>34232232
3/4 of the replies on this thread were gone once I hid that reply chain.

>>34235070
>I don't see why that would change.
Hololive won't last forever and this is her only chance in life to make mad cash, she will not succeed in any way in the western VA scene, that scene is fucked

If only I could fuse gawr gura and kaela into my one perfect woman.

>>34235220
And what do you think would happen if she becomes even less popular, do you that hololive will fire her, despite them not caring that much about numbers like I explained. Or do you think she will leave to make more money, even tho there is no reason why Mori would need even more money now and less popular holos didn't have problems when it comes to money. I am sure Mori will leave hololive eventualy, like every holo will, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
>>34235355
Hololive will last for years to come and will still be popular in the future, even if we are past the golden age, many old things still have cult followings 20 years after their prime. Also not every holo cares about money, and worse case secario Kronii can just go indie, they absolutly are fans that would support her.

>go take a shower and have a dinner
>come back
>the same faggot is still arguing with multiple people in broken English
not a cuckbeat btw kek

>>34235659
I am not even a fan of Mori, I dislike her music and think everyone in Council is better then her as a streamer, and there is absolutly a reason why her numbers are low. I just love arguing with retards.

>>34228341
>EN1 got into Hololive with no idea where they'll end up.
Number-wise, not sure about that. Direction-wise, they all san Ina wanted to be "idols" but only Kiara and maybe Gura is going after their senpais trails

>>34235506
What if the result is a chuuba who doesn't stream and isn't cute?

>>34235784
sure sure cuckbeat, whatever you say

>>34235784
>I just love arguing with retards

You've been spending hours continuously refreshing the page, arguing in defence of a bitch who will never care about you, on a fucking containment board. But okay, you keep halu-ing about how you're somehow superior to the people you're locking horns with.

>>34227854
This proved to be powerful bait

>>34235784
you are a laughing stock of this board either way, at least be honest about your motivations, that would make you unironically less schizo than this coping you are trying to pull of

>>34235550
Anon I don't know what you're even trying to cope about, the point was that Mori has been "self destructing" for years and the result of that is that she's the least viewed EN now. Whether she cares or not or whether cover cares or not doesn't matter, it's simply a fact that her actions did affect her prospects

>>34235857
Throw them out and try again, clearly something went horribly wrong

>>34235929
>>34235977
>>34235862
Why would I need to refresh the page with the extension, are you a newsfag? Also aren't forums made for people to argue in. I love it when people on 4chan claim they are better then Reddit and Twitter since they don't have mob mentality yet everytime someone has a diferent opinion they will act like it's something terrible. You guys are just in an echo-chamber, no diferent from Reddit, just with diferent opinions.
>>34235998
Sure, I agree with that, if Mori made different disicions then she would have more views, I don't think anyone can deny that.

>>34236203
>says he's the enlightened in a circus filled with monkeys
>"I'm just arguing bro"
Also holy shit install an autocorrect extension

>>34230398
Going "EN management accepts it so it's all fine and you should too" is in fact a fucking terrible argument seeing as to how openly incompetent said management is with Omega and most things about Council, now Tempus and the utter lack of candid direction about what the fans even are for the talents. I don't think management itself understands the dynamics at play here, I honestly don't think they get it.

Aww sweet, seanig fight

>>34236368
Hey, I never claim I am smart, I am as much of a retard as anyone on 4chan. I spend my time on 4chan afterall, no normal person does that,.
>>34236411
As far as I know, JP managment and ID managment also allows holostar collabs and pretty much everything else EN does, so why do you juts point at EN managment. Also do you honesly want to claim that some retards on 4 chan know better then Hololive as company?

>>34236493
The autistic cuckbeat is a czech, though. A fucking czech.

Hey kronies seeing your oshi self destruct is fun and all, but when are y'all gonna get her back under control, we don't need another mori thanks

>>34227854
Nah. Gura is an idol

>>34236588
Too late, enjoy your blue mori.

>>34236566
Sadly I am, I am from Plzeň, or Pilzen to you Americans. I will try to be born in a better country next time, don't worry,

>>34236533
The point is more like how could EN management let Kronii go a fucking year+ and never give her a lowdown that no, her fans aren't ironic, none of this is ironic, and actual feelings are at play and can be hurt by her callously throwing shit around, and she can't just back down from a direction (such as yuribaiting) and not expect backlash. That is on management's end acting like Hololive isn't explicitly designed to prey upon certain types of instincts in men to get them to open up their wallets when that is in fact exactly its design. They aren't gonna wear that proudly on their sleeve any more than an oil company would brag about its products shitting up the environment - that doesn't mean they get to keep their talents actually-ignorant, sheltered and fucking misled about all this. That's just incompetent. Ridiculous even.

>>34236612
Idols actually do work. Gura is a degenerate alcoholic who self medicates to cope with her job of baiting lonely NEET pedos

>>34232266
This is for the weak. The strong like Fubuki and Kaela creates alternative personas to pander for all audiences.

>>34236720
She needs to get over her menhara tendencies and get the fuck back to working is what she needs to do

>>34227363
In hindsight [blue]it wasn't that good of a trope from the start.[/blue]

>>34236533
JP allows, ID lets talent do whatever they want, EN encourages
And yes, all of management is retarded, you hear dumb stories as well from the JP girls but unlike EN they are the ones that know what the audience wants and decide what to do, not the managers. EN management is specially retarded, the shit they did with Tempus was beyond retarded, not letting them stream for more than an hour and also telling vesper that EU time was shit

>>34236706
As we clearly saw her during her frist stream after her break, the vast majority of her fans aren't unicors or those who look for GFE, and 100% were fine what Kornii did, only people on 4 chan complained. Why would they inform her of a small minority of her watchers (who may or may not exist) that have never been a problem for any holo.

>>34236588
Kronii is too disconnected from actual Hololive to ever get the support network to recover
It's over, she's a homo orbiter now, she doesn't have anyone else to turn to

>>34236832
I am not saying that managment isn't retarted, I just don't like seeing the double standart while people complain that only a talent (Mori) or managment (EN) is the one causing everything they dislike. If people legit wanted to complain about what hololive is doing, they need to take it up with hololive itself rather then make up spacegoats.

>>34236905
I mean I wasn't personally invested in her, but having her menhara depressed homobeggar tenencies spread to other talents, that's what I'm worried about

>>34236859
>the vast majority of her fans aren't unicors or those who look for GFE
100% of her fans are parasocial, there's no arguing this, and her most parasocial fans will like and behave how Kronii wants them to behave. There's multiple kroniis that used to send her multiple superchats with the most parasocial messages possible (because Kronii encouraged them) and the next day after Kronii made her stance they suddenly turn tail and pretended that they are sane individuals and that GFE is cringe. Kronii is in for an awakening if she thinks that unicorns are the only kind of obsessive fan.
And kronii is retarded anyways, no one is buying that overpriced daki "for the memes"

>>34234620
>I think [Mori] would prefer less views
we can arrange this but she seems to be doing a fine job herself

>>34237116
Do you even watch her? During her Last Campfire stream where it started, most of her superchats were supporting her while only a few argued with her, the chat was litelary laughing at anyone who mensioned any 100% supported her, do you think that all of those were just lying or coping? If so then that sounds like a cope.

>>34237271
You can try, unicorns have been trying to gratuate mori for years, but only Mori can stop Mori.

>>34237476
>Do you even watch her?
No? Why would I watch a homo orbiter?

>>34237554
>Claims that 100% of her fans are parasocial
>How would you know, do you even watch her?
>No, why would I?
I miss the retards that could actualy argue with people.

>>34237476
The booze will stop Mori, don't you worry.

>>34237667
I don't think Mori will ever stop with the booze.

>>34237476
>most of her superchats were supporting her while only a few argued with her, the chat was litelary laughing at anyone who mensioned any 100% supported her, do you think that all of those were just lying or coping? If so then that sounds like a cope.
I literally just mentioned that a bunch of them turned tail and pretended they didn't like parasocial shit, so yes the ones that are fans are full of shit, rice being the biggest example, and then there's also the tourists that will not watch her one from now. The point is that her fanbase is parasocial, it simply adapts to what Kronii wants. Kronii wants us to be gay? Let's kiss each other, Kronii doesn't want unicorns? Nope, I was never an unicorn

>>34237831
That's why I mensioned her frist stream where she mensioned it, where she told people she would only appear on holostars stream and won't stream them on her channel and woudn't mension them otherwice, yet everyone exepnt a very small minority said they didn't care and could collab with stars however she wants. You want to claim that Kronies somehow knew that Kronii would change her stance in the future and adapted to it?

>>34237476
>unicorns have been trying to gratuate mori for years
Unicorns don't even acknowledge her existence. Find another term for "people I dislike"

>>34238040
It's spelled "mention", anonchama.

>>34238040
Anon that's already after she collabed once, by then they already adapted to it.
And you don't seem to be getting the point, the fans that are like "You can do whatever you want Queen and I will follow" like Rice are just as parasocial as the fans like Gabe that throw a fit when Kronii behaves outside of what they expect of her, it's just different ways of being parasocial. Kronii even read the fucking definition of it and she still doesn't get it

>>34238150
>Unicorns don't even acknowledge
Anon, thez have been called her a whore here countless times, there are threads every day complaining about her, even right now, becouse she apperantly made Kronii collab with males, something only unicors would care about.
>>34238237
If you have found only 1 mistake in my spelling then you don't deserve a medal for that.
>>34238285
I mean, that's what you belive, you can claim they are all parasocial and are simply lying, but you can't prove that, I could argue that there are no real unicors or those looking for GFE and everyone who claims they are, are simply dramafags and that opinion would hold the same value.

>>34238285
To be fair the parasocial is such a wide term, football fanboys are parasocial, music stans are parasocial even politic fags tend to be parasocial
Its such a wide terms it becomes meaningless

>>34236628
Dont ever forget, as much as I disagree with you on everything you said about Mori, that you could be arguing with an absolute imbecile from bumblefuck Arskansas, that is 1/4 polish, 1/4 german, 1/4 irish, and then the rest 10 other ethnicities mixed with some native american in it somewhere, acting like he belongs to some elite society, just because he lives on American soil.

>>34238485
>you can claim they are all parasocial and are simply lying, but you can't prove that
You do know who Rice is right?
>>34238491
Yes that's another point, there's no meaning on shitting on parasocial fans because anyone that is a fan is parasocial by definition, streamers shitting on fans or fans shitting on other fans for being parasocial is either ignorance or hypocrisy

>>34228699
>>literally paid for existing
Their job is convincing lonely men to give away their hard-earned money to them. If lonely men had a bit of self-respect and refused to do so professional streamers wouldn't exist.
It's not the streamers' fault.

>>34238799
She is really bad at this then
Now gift me steam games

>>34238627
I think disagreeing with people is very healthy as long as people don't dont judge eachother based their identity, that's what forums are made for, so thank you for being a good 4channer.
>>34238638
I guess I just had a diferent definition on what "parasocial" means, as I said before I am not a native english speaker so I can easly make mistakes, I just assumed parasocial means only unicorns and GFE people. But Kronii has never shit on her normal watchers, only those who don't want her collabing with the stars so I don't see the problem.

>>34238949
>But Kronii has never shit on her normal watchers
What's the definition of a normal watcher? People who never superchat her, don't member her or buy her merch? She shitted a bit on those that do because she thought everything was ironic and that no one actually liked her and that it's weird that they do, and I assure you no one buying that daki simply watches kronii for e-friendship with a streamer so you can't argue that it's just those that see her as GFE
All in all, she kinda fucked herself with the daki merch, it completely kills whatever argument anyone wants to make for her

>>34229186
Don't blame her. Who could think "humans" as pathetic as that exists? This is why we need bullying back in full force.

>>34239245
Well, there are people wach her regulary, those who only buy her memberships, there are people who donate to her, there are people who buy her merch, and any combination of those. I don't see how you can claim that everyone is the same parasocial watcher who wants the same thing as others, people who will watch her will have diferent reasons for watching her, for supporting her and direrent opinions on star streams or her daki merch, only a very small minority will buy expensive merch and not everyone wants her to be GFE. This is my opinion, it may be wrong but even if her watcher are paracosial in your view, why would they all care about holo star collabs or her daki merch? And if they will simply agree with Kronii as you stated before and will happily enjoy Kronii even now, then I see no problems. Kronii is happy interacting with stars and viewrs are apperantly happy with whatever Kronii does.

>>34227854
You post is a total doomposting and totally a twitter esque rant, but the Calli part I feel needs to be corrected:

The reaper hated idols until she interacted with MilkyQueen because she thought they were all stuck up bitches. After said interaction (somewhat) changed her mind, she decided to give Hololive shot.

Doesn't mean she came to appreciate the unicorn aspect of idol culture however, which plays into why she's unabashedly ok with co-ed collabs.

>>34227854
10/10 bait

>>34239916
>she decided to give Hololive shot
Yeah still doesn't mean she appreciates idols afterward. We only have negative evidence so far