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I feel sorry for her, getting tricked by kson and vshojo

>> No.33479840

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsrSi5brEwo

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33479844

so true numbersister

>> No.33479855

>>33479767
she got tricked by her own ignorance, what are you talking about, now she have to actually work to grow.

>> No.33479873

So I am assuming a nazuna thread will have a sticky on it here if she's does go through with a stream posting on 4chan?

>> No.33480012

>discord leak during stream
>cover still back her up
>leaked her own situation to a third party
>termination
how the fuck do you even feel sorry for her

>> No.33480135

>>33479767
>engages with antis on her private twitter
>got a whole new model that gets less use than the bar of soap in my shower
>vents and posts slanderous tweets then deletes them on her private twitter
>has youtube membership, pixiv fanbox, twitcasting membership and twitch subs
>needs a constant supply of validation and "love" from her fans otherwise she'd have a mental breakdown

Don't feel bad anon. She's made her bed, it's time she lied down in it.

>> No.33480335

>>33479767
I guess it's one of those cases of making as many suet threads as you can until someone believes you.
gura threads are removed for less than this.

>> No.33480348

>>33480012
>One of the hardest working streamers
>The highest earner to Hololive
>Part of the generation that turned Hololive from nobodies into mind blown success
>Fired disgracefully while the whole internet was predating on her over some censored screencaps
If that didn't make you a Hololive anti, you're mentally ill.

>> No.33480373

>>33479767
Stop shitting up the board with this you drama addict, keep it in your containment discord.

>> No.33480386

>>33480135
Continuing on, I think my favorite deleted tweet(s) from her was the one where she got mad that her attempt at getting a coworker fired didn't work out and how she's happy she now has a manager that, in her own words, "didnt/doesn't leak her private info"

>> No.33480447

>>33480373
>Implying this isn't Coverschizo who's constantly trying to start thread wars
Cmon Anon be smarter than that. He was in our threads trying to do the same thing instead of keeping this shit contained.

>> No.33480634

>>33479767
I hope she an heroes properly this time

>> No.33484168

>>33480348
>Discord yab
>was told to calm down and remain calm
>lost her shit
>talked to a dramatuber
>leaked NDA information to said dramatuber
>gets justifiably fired for it
If that made you a Hololive anti, you're mentally ill.
Any other company would have done the same, whether it's a vtuber company or otherwise. Companies firing nda breakers is common practice because they can't be trusted. That's how business works. She should be grateful Cover didn't sue her ass.

>> No.33484926

I feel sorry for her.
It's probably because I have just barely enough empathy to understand how terrible it must feel like to be abandoned by the place you entrusted yourself to and nobody being out there to help you.

If you were fired from a job that you loved doing and suddenly that ex-employee walks up to you and offers to get you on board a new, similar thing, you'd probably do the same knowing that that ex-employee was beloved in the company you've been dumped from by most other employees.

I know she makes a lot of money, but knowing how little money means once you earn just enough to live comfortably, I can't help but feel that all this fame and success just isn't worth being doxxed, hated and stalked for. I'm not an extreme hololive fan or hater ever since Tempus soured the hobby for me, I see negatives both in what Rushia did and what Cover has done in the past, but that doesn't really make the unease of knowing how Rushia's seiyu must've felt like in that situation.

Literally a fish pulled out of the water, dangling from a hook with one of two options: become food (quit Vtubing) or live in Kson's aquarium.

>> No.33485007

>>33480348
and what all of that has to do with the contact breach? lol
she sure is one of the hardest streamer and others, but that didn't make her wrongdoer right.

>> No.33485197

>>33484168
This, literally all she had to do was sit still and do nothing, then it would've all blown over

>> No.33485372

>>33480012
>>33480348
>>33480386
>>33484168
>>33485007
bitch it's more than half a year already and you still bring it up?
just enjoy what it is now

>> No.33485422

>>33484926
The only way to save her is to put her on a leash.

>> No.33485437

Rangeban Brazil

>> No.33485522

>>33479767
Poor sweet Nazuna-tan, why on earth would those nasty vwhorejo sluts whatn to hurt someone so cute and pure?

>> No.33485770

>>33485422
When the news first broke out, I actually thought that her parents might come and force her to go back to hometown and find a husband...

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>>33484168
Also slandered other people working at the company

>> No.33486235

>>33479767
can't she just leave? i thought they have "TALENT FREEDOM™"

>> No.33486682

>>33479767
the real trick was conning VShojo into hiring a blacklisted talent

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>>33486235
here's your talent freedom

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>> No.33486870

>>33485856
What does the chinese text say last panel?

>> No.33486897

rent free vwhorejo intern

>> No.33487073

One thing I don't get. If you're gonna lawyer up to deal with antis, why the fuck do you tell them? Wouldn't it of, I don't know... been smart to not tell them of your plans?

>> No.33487413

>>33485770
Has she ever mentioned her parents?
Given the apparent culture in JP around menheras I'd expect them to shun her like moslem parents shunning a daughter who rides the carousel.

>> No.33487461

>>33487073
What can they even do? It's too late to delete the posts. If anything it prevents more antis from posting.
>>33487413
She's talked about them very often and has a good relationship with them.

>> No.33487852

>>33485856
>>33486870
According to DeepL:
> It's great, I really thought it was a bad idea
>
> I really wanted to disappear
>
> I'm sure there are people like that around famous people, so it's going to be hard to get rid of them, and I won't be able to get back at them
>
> I want you to tell me all about it, but not if you're still alive
>
> That's why I wanted to tell you in detail before that, I wanted to make them all unhappy

IIRC she talked with that drama vlogger and wanted to leak shit about her genmates to bring them down with her during one of her more severe menhera episodes. Sounds like it's about that exchange.
I think that's around the first time that Coco contacted her and tried to set her straight too.

>> No.33488049

>>33479767
KWAB

>> No.33488124

>>33479767
I warned her about joining vshojo
She didn't listen

>> No.33488270

>>33487852
>And she said she's still friends with her genmates.

lol

lmao, even.

>> No.33488439

>>33488124
Can't help people when they refuse to get help or help themselves

>> No.33488486

>>33479767
>anons IIt getting fooled once again
it's her standard play,
>make an unarchived stream,
>complain,
>be ambiguous,
>shifting responsibility from her,
>act like a victim
when will you idiots learn?

>> No.33488528

>>33479767
Bro, she's fucking playing you retards. I'm so glad my HoloJP got rid of this whore.

>> No.33488572

>>33488270
I mean, I don't like her.
But I don't think it's about them not being friends. It's more so her destructive menhera episodes ruining her life and what little connection she has with others.
She's not blameless but I think her paypigs at least deserve some blame too for enabling her.

>> No.33489337

>>33488528
>HoloJP
A sinking ship for years now. VShojo is the one that has thrived in its place.

>> No.33489549

>>33479767
> getting tricked by kson and vshojo
what do you mean tricked? I don't get the context

>> No.33489824

>>33489549
She wants to stream on youtube alongside Twitch but can't for some corpo reason. Some say is for her getting hired into a Twitch Partner deal and some say is Cover not letting her because she is corpo again, but in thart case she could just stream as Miguel Neko.

>> No.33489922

JAKARTA
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>> No.33490131

>>33487461
She claims to be very close with them but I wonder would her menhera get so serious if she really got so much support from them? Well I guess she got way worse upon moving from her folks to Tokyo where Coco helped her with finding a house and shit, seems like a lot of things went poorly from there, perhaps she really should move to the countryside like she initally wanted would help with some of her menhera shit.

>> No.33490239

>>33489824
That doesn't make any sense now. A corpo just can't van you from streaming on a platform. unless said platform, in this case youtube, permanently banned her. Which is not the case since ahebhas a yourube channel.

And twitch changed their rules so partnered streamers are allowed to stream on sites other than twitch. What they can't do is stream on twitch and nother platform st the same time.

>> No.33490834

>>33490239
They can if it's in the contract, that's the entire point of the contract existing. She probably didn't read it because, well, it's her. She's stupid. She's also probably misread what that meant and wanted to stream on both.

>> No.33490881

>>33490834
I didnt think of that. Huh.... damn girl you played yourself

>> No.33491028

>>33489824
Isn't it a Vshojo thing? I don't watch Vshojo but I thought none of the Vshojo girls stream on Youtube.

>> No.33491107

>>33489549
Just/VT/-sisters rrating again. Might be some weird non-compete, might be a special agreement she has, might be her own stupidity (she isn't the smartest).
No one really knows.

In regard to the non-compete hypothesis. Her mike activities can not be restricted under non-compete as they were allowed when she was working for Cover. Now that she isn't working for them she has even more of a right to that.
I also don't think Cover would be willing to compensate her for the duration of the non-compete, so it needs to be specific enough to not restrict her ability to work or choose an employer too much.

Who knows. I bet she was told she needs to be twitch exclusive at her debut because she will be a twitch partner. That's why kson thought she was. And she's too dumb to understand exactly what's going on with the rule change or that the rule is a twitch rule. But who knows with this girl, being smart is not her strength.

>> No.33491121

>>33487852
I'm pretty sure it was Rushia who asked to speak with kson about her problems and they had a falling out no longer after (Rushia blamed "senpai" for turning kson against her). Also Mike denied this part being about her genmates/other holos in that statement she did some time ago and in truth we don't really know who she was talking about might've been management or perhaps her antis.

>>33480348
Talking with dramatubers is like being outed as a journalist in a football firm or something, it basically make you look like a snitch, how do you expect other holos would talk with her after that? Every time one of those dramapeddlers had insider source would be blamed on her, it's massive when you understand this context. Why Cover can't trust someone like that is pretty self evident too whatever info she have access too might end up out there on the internet or sold to their competitors and she doesn't listen to her manager etc. it's mutual distrust really.

>> No.33491171

>>33487073
It makes perfect sense if you just want to scare them

>> No.33491234

>>33489337
>money is not what I was expecting...

>> No.33491318

>>33491028
well kson does

>> No.33491337 [DELETED] 

>>33491234
Vshojo is thriving but Nazuna is just a greedy bitch who trying to to bite the hand that is feeding her. Its expected from people who have hololive mentality like her. Hopefully she learn her place and stops dragging Vshojos name in the mud with her incompetence.

>> No.33491359

>>33491121
Don't forget that we're talking about a severe case of menhera here.

>> No.33491689

I think Kson got tricked by vshojo too
>it's great, they only take the merch money and not the streaming money
>every day is a merch stream

>> No.33491796

>>33491107
I mean Vshojo actually gave her a manager so it's weird nobody would explain it to her, she also claimed to talk about it with other Vshojo members (which sounds kinda hard considering the language barrier) so it's not like spontaneous rant it seems. Anyway people try to rationalize it with "Cover have a non-compete for streaming on youtube when you join another Vtuber corp" because it makes more sense to them while she herself said that she can't talk about it or they have her fired, so she still works for Cover? It's obvious that she's hinting at Vshojo being the problem here.

>> No.33491813

>>33491121
she simply lied, she was going to leak shit about her genmates and she got scared when Marine sued one of her antis so she lied and pretended she wasnt talking about them

>> No.33491994

>>33491813
I didn't know about the Marine thing but pretty sure she just wanted to shut down people calling her a traitor over this part because that was really the strongest accusation in the eyes of the fandom including many of her own fans I'm sure.

>> No.33492184

>>33491796
Maybe they want to force into the affiliate program?

>> No.33496979

>>33491813
Right after her firing Rushia made a tweet, which she deleted some time after, saying how in the past she reported a coworker to management because they enjoyed going to host clubs. Management said they would take care of it (fire the employee) but it didn't end up happening. And that Rushia wqs surprised and mad they weren't fired.

Do you think it was Marine she was talking about?

>> No.33497079

>>33492184
Didn't kson say that the Nazuna channel was made twitch partner even before the debu?

>> No.33497251

>>33491796
Kson is now a Twitch partner , and she can stream on twitch and youtube but not at the same time

>>33491234
I think she was getting more money on Cover that in VShojo , VShojo let you take donations , Bits and Subs 100% to the streamer ( But Nazuna doesnt have the donation / superchat option available nor the other members tell them to set it up) and Vshojo takes 100% on merch and I guess that on Cover they have most of the superchats and you can get a cut on merch sale

>> No.33497295

>>33496979
Yes , butTwitch policy changed like 2 weeks ago now you can stream on youtube

>> No.33497314

>>33496979
There are no Holo rules against that.

>> No.33497335

>>33496979
>Do you think it was Marine she was talking about?
No

>> No.33497525

>>33497295
I understand that. Rushia seems to not have.

>>33497314
I know that, which I find odd that Rushia would try to throw a coworker under the bus for no reason st all.

>>33497335
Fair enough.

>> No.33497543

>>33497251
>Vshojo takes 100% on merch
that's the dumbest shit I've ever read, it's not even true. But i guess Goebbels spirit still lives on the internet "If you tell a lie and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"

>> No.33497664

>>33497543
>But i guess Goebbels spirit still lives on the internet "If you tell a lie and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"
Bruh, this is political discourse for the past century, it's not just an internet thing. It literally happens everywhere, every time.

>> No.33497797

>>33480012
>>33480348
Both of these are Nijiniggers trying to play both sides.
>You should hate Rushia!
>No you should hate Hololive
How about you faggots kys and I support both of them

>> No.33497846

>>33497543
>>>33491813

Kson said that the deal she got, so I guess is the same one Nasuna got

>> No.33497937

Kson streams on yt and Nyan did at least one yt stream too. Why would Vshojo not let Nazuna stream on yt?

>> No.33498169

>>33497525
>throw a coworker under the bus for no reason st all
That's easy. Menhera gonna menhera.

>> No.33498252

>>33497797
Hate might be a bit much but there's no reason to feel sorry for a menhera who refuses proper treatment.

>> No.33498324

>>33497937
shes probably being retarded and misread something. any sort of exclusivity deal would be in the contract front and center and shouldnt be a surprise (please read contracts folks)
>>33488486
also this

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>>33496979
>saying how in the past she reported a coworker to management because they enjoyed going to host clubs.
Wrong, it was a coworker who spread rumors about some of her other coworkers going to host clubs.
Kill yourself Brazilian retard

>> No.33498608

Nazuna may not be the sharpest tool in the shed. But I, for example, can read and speak more Japanese than she can English, and if I had to sign a contract in Japanese to a Japanese company, streaming on a Japanese platform where every single button is in Japanese, I know for a fact I would get screwed over something sooner or later, including things that may be "front and center" in the contract. Even if I had professional translators plus friends in the new company.

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>>33497846
you are not wrong, but you are wrong,
that 100% you are trying to push is for official merch on their site made solely by vshojo using their members IP, and it's only commemorative merch made for PAX

>> No.33499000

>join whorejo
>want to kill yourself
Talent freedom = death lol
No wonder whorejos are permanently seething about hololive

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>>33496979
So one of the Holo hags goes to male Host clubs? That's a juicy rrat.

>> No.33499268

>>33498831
Far as I know nobody's ever confirmed that it's 100%. Since none of them have ever really bothered making merch outside of VShojo I'd assume it's a portion and not the whole thing, otherwise they'd have an incentive to get their own merch done without VShojo's help.

>> No.33499341

>>33499238
We already know who did it. There's even a picture.

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>>33499238
>>33496979
How fucking new are you people? There is no way you watched vtubers more than a week ago

>> No.33499527

>>33487073
>Wouldn't it of

Wouldn't it have*

>> No.33499627

>>33499400
What do you mean? I have been here for at least two weeks.

>> No.33499661

>>33497846
Kson never said that . She said VShojo only earns money from merch they sell on their store. But never said anything about the split.

>> No.33499824

>>33499268
The statistic that everyone uses is from a stream that she shortly after joining.She talked about how Vshojo operates and at one point said that she keeps her stream revenue and Vshojo earns their money largely through merch sales.

She had a slide up behind her that had Japanese and an English translation. In the English translation it just said something along the lines of "Vshojo earns their money from merch sales." but in the japanese text it had a 100% floating in the middle. People took that as "oh, Vshojo takes 100% of the merch sales." even though she never said that. since it was Japanese on the screen and they could not just toss it in DeepL and find out how dumb they are.

When translated, the slide just says "I keep 100% of donations. Vshojo earns money on merch" I have no Idea why she only translated the second half but it has caused so many people to draw the wrong idea and its frustrating.

>> No.33500000

>>33485197
Yea that worked great for Coco.

>> No.33500065

>>33500000
She didn't rike the mods. What a whiny bitch

>> No.33500225

>>33480348
Nigga how do you let a yab about you getting fucked by mafumafu get to you? mafumafu is like the faggiest utaite ever.
Literally more faggy than that literal faggot tranny rinu.
Just say you both were having girl talk about how he's gonna suck off soraru.

I can only assume she had a legitimate crush on him.

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>>33499824
>I have no Idea why she only translated the second half but it has caused so many people to draw the wrong idea and its frustrating.
Because the stream was a quickly thrown together presentation on what VShojo is and how they operate for her JP fanbase that she made in less than a day, and she doesn't anticipate off-hand comments being taken as gospel by SEAschizos and used to attack her for all eternity.

>> No.33500967

>>33500000
Coco was doxing her genmate and leaking company info to dramatubers?

>> No.33501018

>>33500225
You have to remember this is the same mikeneko who splurted all over Twitter about how she and mafu were made for each-other and all those other bitches should back the fuck off.
That was before she got Holo but still under the mike persona.

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>>33500464
>v-vshojo is still a company kekson apologist!!!

>> No.33501210

>>33499238
She's not really a hag

>> No.33501281

>>33500967
Coco was also involved in some drama and told to sit there and do nothing, and she did, and the drama not only didn't blow over, it got worse and contributed to her career ending.

Doing nothing doesn't work, the silence just lets schizos control the narrative.

>> No.33501328

>>33501281
You didn't answer my question

>> No.33501360

>>33501018
I really don't get how you could fall for mafumafu, just looking at how he menhera's for soraru should be enough of a massive turnoff.

>> No.33501406

>>33501328
Sorry I was pretending you were asking a good question and not a retarded one, so I elaborated on how their situations were similar.

>> No.33501407

>>33491121
>Also Mike denied this part being about her genmates/other holos in that statement she did some time ago
She claimed it wasn't about ANY talents at all, which is a lie. Smart lie since anyone that likes her believed her, but everyone else can just go back and read what she told to kore.

>> No.33501488

>>33501406
Their situations couldn't be further from each other even if you tried
Coco pissed off china, Rushia doxxed her genmate which resulted in her getting harassed and was also doxxing Cover employees and was caught leaking private company info for years
You are the retard here for saying their situations are similar, do you even know what you are talking about?

>> No.33501524

>>33501488
>Rushia doxxed her genmate
lol
not reading the rest of your post because you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.33501565

>>33501360
Most women select based on social standing not character.

>> No.33501573

>>33501524
>fucktard actually believes Rushia was fired for a discord message
>claims he knows what he is talking about
Keep spreading that missinfo, you might catch someone with that bait in a couple of years or so

>> No.33501728

>>33501488
Who exactly did she dox and what about them? Obviously if it's true the info is out there now, right?

>> No.33501864

I can't feel sorry for Miguel Gato. She leaked information from her coworkers to dramatubers and is proud to bankrupt oji-sans because of comments on the internet

GET FUCKED WHORE MENHERA

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>>33501728
Coffee elf, her serves you right attitude was amazing during rushia termination arc

>> No.33501919

>>33501573
NTA, but she didn't dox any holos, korekore even said himself she wasn't willing to provide anything of that sort.

>> No.33501933

>>33501573
Please provide the receipts. Give me a timestamp of KRKR describing how she doxxed her genmates.

Like actually leave this thread and go look for it. In your journey, you may find out this epic rrat is completely fabricated.

>> No.33502241

>>33501728
No one. The /vt/ rrat is Flare, but it's only based on how calm Flare was during the announcement.
Most of the /vt/ version of what has happened is blown out of proportion by a factor of 10 and sprinkled with some original rrats

That being said I think her getting fired is fairly justified. But the press release might have been too harsh. The only Cover leak I know about is the one about Mel's manager sexually harassing her and stalking her.

>> No.33502341

>>33502241 (me)
Otherwise not much was leaked about Cover internal info throughout their history, unless there is truth to Narukami's stuff about Coco's graduation.

>> No.33502666

>>33501919
>>33501933
According to Cover: 31:35
>...we were able to confirm that
she engaged in acts that:
>violated her contract by leaking information that she acquired from the company as well as communication over SNS, both of which she has a responsibility to protect...

or are you trying to claim that they let their cashcow go over a Discord message?

All Korekore had to say on it were: 53:21
>There isn't much I can say since I didn't get any proof.

And leaking information doesn't have to involve dramatubers.
She could just as well have been leaking information to poachers or other contacts.

>> No.33502673

>>33502341
Narukami's narrative about Chinese investors pushing out Coco doesn't seem correct. The zhangs tried to find out who those investors were (so they could harass them) and they could only find Japanese investors. She was isolated by management, but there don't seem to have been any chinamen involved like he implied.

It's possible that he did get some inside info before she announced her graduation (there's a high chance that it spread around in vtuber circles since everyone in Hololive knew, but I can't confirm that), but Kson also dropped a big hint about it once and Coco's announcement of her announcement sounded somber enough that he could have just guessed and made up a narrative completely on his own.

>> No.33503805 [DELETED] 

>>33502666
They let their cashcow go over the discord message and the aftermath of it, correct. She had become financially detrimental to the company. You're not going to understand much if you're not familiar with japanese culture idol/fandom culture and the business behind it. Simply put "all PR is good PR" is not how it works there, it's the complete opposite.
The only reason to ever fire someone in her position on the spot is money, she was no longer a cashcow that they could be milked. They tried to direct the course with their first statement, but left it open in case it wouldn't work out that way. It didn't which explains why their only claims are only reputational damages in aspects directly linked to the publicly known leak and phrased purposely to narrate the drama in the best possible way for them. Which is the quintessence of a PR statement - not to convey the "truth".
>All Korekore had to say on it were: 53:21
The korekore VOD is cut, it's missing ~7 minutes of the original livestream

>> No.33503932

>>33480135
>the bar of soap in my shower
korone!

>> No.33503936

>>33502666
>>33502666
They let their cashcow go over the discord message and the aftermath of it, correct. She had become financially detrimental to the company. You're not going to understand much if you're not familiar with japanese culture idol/fandom culture and the business behind it. Simply put "all PR is good PR" is not how it works there, it's the complete opposite.
The only reason to ever fire someone in her position on the spot is money, she was no longer a cashcow that could be milked. They tried to direct the course with their first statement, but left it open in case it wouldn't work out that way. It didn't, which explains why their only claims are only reputational damages in aspects directly linked to the publicly known leak and phrased purposely to narrate the drama in the best possible way for them. Which is the quintessence of a PR statement - not to convey the "truth".
>All Korekore had to say on it were: 53:21
The korekore VOD is cut, it's missing ~7 minutes of the original livestream

>> No.33507494

>>33503936
>The only reason to ever fire someone in her position on the spot is money, she was no longer a cashcow that could be milked
NTA, you could've just said you're retarded and save everyone time

>> No.33507949

>>33507494
If milking the cow gains you 1m, but the upkeep is 10m, what is the point of keeping it the cow?

>> No.33508031

>>33507949
>upkeep
just stop retard

>> No.33508247

>>33508031
>I can't argue so I retort with insults

>> No.33508262

>>33487073
"Dealing with antis" is a smoke screen for her true plans. She doesn't need 6 lawyers to take down antis. She has far more ambitious goals.

>> No.33508530

>>33480135
>Sends private videos to rich whales using the green woman persona.
You forgot one.

>> No.33508590

>>33508247
holy shit actual retard lmao, go ahead explain the "upkeep" and not to mention you think they fired her because "muh idol culture" when they made their statement regarding talent private matter, allowing Holostars collab, fucking Tower and Matuli are still there why don't they fired them ? kindly kill yourself, fucking idiots like you should never leave your whore mother womb

>> No.33508951

>>33508530
That was a fake.

>> No.33509304

Poor Rushia. Havn't watched her since the blatant suicidebaiting but she deserves better.

>> No.33509332

>>33508590
I already did you. They straight up tell you the reasons for their financial loss and what would have been the upkeep/cost to keep her around in their statement. They're actively discouraging male interaction, and it is not against idol culture. You're just validating that you know little to nothing about this subject. Towa and Matsuri's cases were vastly different. If they had caused similar damages, or if it had happened later like, let's say 1 month before their biggest event and one of the biggest events in vtubing history you can bet your ass they'd have been fired as well.

>> No.33509511

>>33496979
No, it was someone else. If you don't know who you're a newfag but discussing it here gets you banned.

>> No.33509824

>>33509332
you're not explaining anything about upkeep/cost for keeping her retard, you can fuck off now and get some rope to neck yourself
>Towa and Matsuri's cases were vastly different
i agree they are different because they aren't talking to dramanigger like Rushia did

>> No.33510710

>>33509824
>you're not explaining anything about upkeep/cost for keeping her retard, you can fuck off now and get some rope to neck yourself
>They straight up tell you the reasons for their financial loss and what would have been the upkeep/cost to keep her around in their statement.
In other words I'm not going to transcibe information in a way that is comprehensible for someone like you. Not because I don't want to, because I can't step down to your level of intelligence.
>i agree they are different because they aren't talking to dramanigger like Rushia did
You're beyond saving, may whatever you believe or not believe in have mercy on you.

>> No.33511024

>>33501865
Based Flare.

>> No.33511124

>>33479767
good for her

>> No.33511166

>>33502241
its likely rushia was the source of narukami's china rat on coco's graduation. That would certainly be a case of attempted reputational damage.

>> No.33511328

>>33511166
See
>>33502673

>> No.33511857

>>33510710
>They straight up tell you the reasons for their financial loss and what would have been the upkeep/cost to keep her around in their statement.
why even bother lying about shit that can be googled easily ? there is no mention about upkeep/cost about keeping her on their statement regarding her termination
you already outed yourself as EOP retard with your "you don't understand it was because muh idol culture"
>Not because I don't want to, because I can't step down to your level of intelligence.
holy cope, i already warned you to stop since you're clearly retarded and don't know what you're talking about

>> No.33512006

>>33510710 NTA but the only reason she is financially detrimental is because she broke nda, and keeping her would be a fundamental risk legally reputation wise, both of which are increased financial risks. If your assumption is that she didn't break NDA, then you have not explained why Cover would just assume she wouldn't continue to be a cashcow. Especially given we know for a fact that for the time she was on youtube as mikeneko afterwords that absolutely wasn't true, so you look like an idiot for that assumption rolling around in the back of your head with no proof sticking it to cover. Furthermore, terminating Rushia as it is incurred additional financial losses on Cover for merch, concerts, sponsor stuff, the whole pipeline schedule that much of HoloJP has, along with requiring to offer refunds for events that Rushia would have appeared in, and/or merch.
Basically Cover's actions don't line up with your assumptions, because financially speaking they didn't make the best move, even assuming she WAS no longer a cashcow immediately from that point forward.
Basically you have no logic to support your accusation, its literally just schizo ramblings of yours. which, lacking evidence and logic, can be dismissed without evidence and logic as well.

>> No.33512152
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33512152

>>33480348
>>33484168
The never ending argument that we will never get a conclusion.
>I love shit though!
>Pwease gontinyuuu~~~~

>> No.33512304

This thread isn't even a real thread. It's a timeloop by the Brazilian schizo bringing up the same points to the same people who counter them every time and then he bumps it off the bottom of page 10 when the thread naturally dies and jannies do nothing because they are too busy jacking off.

>> No.33513733

>timelooping why Rushia got fired from Hololive AGAIN
>despite Mikeneko's wishes to not have this brought up AGAIN
I'm tired of this shit. None of you are really Nekofami anyways. Just retards who fall for Marineschizo's incomprehensible schizobabble. Kill yourselves, all of you. None of you faggots are free of sin.

>> No.33519753

>>33479767
It's funny that she looks like Kanata.
Like Coco wanted to replace her.

>> No.33519868

>>33479840
Masterpiece as always

>> No.33521397

>>33502673
You forget China's nominee in Cover

>> No.33521675

>>33512006
My "assumption", rather educated analysis of the situation, isn't based on her not breaking the NDA, nobody is saying she didn't, she herself admits as much. It's based on the business decisions Cover took and how they adressed certain aspects of it. I'm only outlining for you that she didn't breach her contract to the extend you're assuming based on rrats instead of knowledge based on the industry and the facts available to the public. Your interpretation of the money/cashcow point is not taking into consideration that the reputational damage / financial loss extends to Cover/Holo themselves and all other talents. Which was repaired and strengthened by the termination. They did risk analysis and came to the conclusion that she was not worth keeping around / fighting for. You can call it schizo ramblings or take it as it is - the analysis of an expert in their respective field.

>> No.33522050

>>33479840
>"nih-ji"
Stopped watching

>> No.33522564

>>33479767
Literally who?

>> No.33522665

>>33491689
>They're not a corpo!
>hires former COO to be strategy advisor
>They keep a bigger portion of their earnings!
>takes their cut from merch sales instead, by far the greater portion of earnings for vtubers
how does vshojo convince people they are any better than any other corpo?

>> No.33524750

Death to kshit

>> No.33525234

>>33496979
Marine doesnt like japanese men or effeminate men
it was probably matsuri

>> No.33525667

>>33501281
It's chink nationalist compare to some dumb unicorn. They don't works the same way.

>> No.33525690

>>33522665
TALENT FREEDOM BABY WOOOOOOO~~~~~

>> No.33525766

>>33497543
>But i guess Goebbels spirit still lives on the internet
He invented clickbait.
>Goebbels adapted recent developments in commercial advertising to the political sphere, including the use of catchy slogans and subliminal cues. His new ideas for poster design included using large type, red ink, and cryptic headers that encouraged the reader to examine the fine print to determine the meaning.

>> No.33526574

>>33522665
>how does vshojo convince people they are any better than any other corpo?
They dont, there is a reason why nobody wants to join whorejo (the doxxing catastrophe was just 1 of the reasons)

>> No.33527730

>>33479767
She's doing well

>> No.33532359

>>33521675
NTA but this is definitely schizo ramblings

>> No.33532956

>>33479767
Anon, she joined slut central when her whole shtick was GFE and being seiso for her virtual boyfriends. There is no possible way she thought things would go well.

>> No.33533004

>>33527730
Is that why she cries about having no cash?

>> No.33533073

>>33532956
>thought
she's incapable of thought

>> No.33533134

>>33533073
Fair.

>> No.33533250

>>33533004
>Top SC Vtuber
>No money
How? It hasn't been a year before she was fired.

>> No.33533373

>>33533250
>he thinks SCs matter when: 30% youtube tax, 30% national tax, ~30% Corpo tax

>> No.33533658

>>33479844
Why do brainless retards act like any post not praising Kson is mase by SEAmonkeys when they are the ones who follow her the most ever since they roleplayed as keyboard warriors against the evil CCP on the internet?

>> No.33534318

>>33533373
>3mil USd in SC
>Minus 2mil to Youtube and Cover
>30% to tax means 700k USD in profit
>SC doesn't matter, cool logic
>Not counting sponsorship and merch sales
Did she buy property with cash, or she got a nasty gambling habit?

>> No.33534346

>>33526574
And yet the two biggest holos joined it

>> No.33534508

>>33479844
I have so many questions about this pic but most importantly, how are pcs still working with all that water

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