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another day, another easy nijigold
Before the schizos come in, why hasn't Fubuki played Holocure after the update that added her as a playable character? She seemed to be pretty into the game when it first came out and she even played it a bunch off stream but now she seems to be avoiding the Holocure buff for some reason?
Last thread was about what exactly?
I'm glad we cleared the air about Nazuna in the last thread. Cover is a black company that prohibits its talents from streaming on Youtube for at least a year if they join another corpo. Just take a look at this thread. Everyone agrees besides holofags.>>33465396
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>81,240: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>52,809: Iofi (Hololive)>38,995: Miko (Hololive)>37,304: Subaru (Hololive)>35,971: Pekora (Hololive)>24,617: Lamy (Hololive)>20,564: Salome (Nijisanji)>18,301: Ange (Nijisanji)>17,144: Kanae (Nijisanji)>16,478: Ame (Hololive)>15,157: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>14,617: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,816: Koyori (Hololive)>13,795: Runa (VSPO)>12,653: Magni (Holostars)>12,510: Watame (Hololive)>12,413: Rosemi (Nijisanji)>11,966: Tamaki (NoriPro)>11,848: Koyori (Hololive)>11,766: Hakase (Nijisanji)>11,745: GatchmanV (Indie)>11,624: Shu (Nijisanji)>11,259: Chloe (Hololive)>10,641: Botan (Hololive)>10,487: Iroha (Hololive)>10,435: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,334: Korone (Hololive)>10,264: Noel (Hololive)
She aint gonna fuck you fancuck
>>33474607mind break, homework and hobbies
GTFO Vhoejocucks
>>33473640checked /nijiEN/ about this and just learned Luca still fucked up their new minecraft server>>33460726>pretended he was moving people's houses but what he really did was lazily moved the ENTIRE CHUNKS that those buildings were on and just dropped them haphazardly, destroying everything down to the bedrock.>moved Pomu's drowned farm into a non-river biome so now it's just an ugly abomination that doesn't spawn any drowned. she asked him to move it to a river and he just ignored her.>changed an entire mountain to diamond blocks and then changed it back to dirt, so that's another chunk that is ruined down to the bedrock.>completely flattened the entire spawn area so any resources there like trees are totally gone.>also since he just dropped entire chunks the scenery of the surrounding area is totally ruined since there's massive flat cliffs all around their spawn from when he copy/pasted chunks, it looks hideous>kept flying around in creative harassing and teleporting people who were just trying to actually build until they joined in on his antics, turning a rebuild collab into a "fuck around and do nothing" collab.
>>33474613>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fuwa, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY164x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER32x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>33474610Wait why did Cover block Nazuna and not Mike?
>no foxdemon 3d stream yetFriend...
Iroha...
https://youtu.be/cTusR-ffRjsAqua and Mea
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>>33474540/news/ roundup for 17-09-2022 >>33387135Recent clip numbers>>33463009>>33463039>>33463446>>33463486
Holo decided balance is on the menu todayAlso Rbc….
>>33474610>>33474645She aint gonna fuck you bro
>>33474607Sore losers and Scamshojo
>>33474603Fox does as she does. Watch as she plays it once everyone else has had a go at it because she doesn't really care about getting big numbers nowadays, just doing what she wants.
Nazunakek never worked for a company before huh. She got off lightly for breaking nda. If i was cover, i sue her for damages.
>>33474640i don't get all this minecraft mumbo jumbo man
>>33474390yes, and vshojo wont like that, so they tell her not to do it on pain of termination. So much for talent freedom.Honestly sounds like she was too optimistic about vshojo, helped along by Kson. Unironically getting strangled by good intentions, and now she can only make do, because she has no way out.
>>33474640He seems really hellbent on pissing of anyone with the slightest bit of investment into that server
>another holo with mengen rust streamkanata you fucking bitch
>>33474645Because Mikeneko is an indie, and Cover can't enforce their non-compete clause because she isn't a part of another corpo (competitor). This entire situation has been incredibly eye-opening. I always knew something was fishy about Rushia's termination -- never realized just how disgusting Covers practices were until now though
>>33474607Fancucks and vwhoretards damage controling
>>33474607anything that doesn't help miguel is evil apparently
>>33474610>no longer in hololive>still hololive's faultDeranged.
>>33474712tl;drLuca's a disruptive troll who fucked up fixing the server because he's an idiot and an ass.
>Fancuck doesn't know how a corpo works
https://twitter.com/kazamairohach/status/1571487861001850887Why is your wife like this Irohafag?
>>33474712Basically: shit's fucked yo
>>33474745Are they not?
It's okay if Nijisanji keeps losing. nijkoshien 2023 will have 500k ccv and will be a national event by 2025
>>33474671at least she's top-tier in Holocure....
>>33474759
>>33474738Why is vshojo scamming her bro?
>>33474738But Nazuna is an indie too though since Vshojo is not a vtuber corporation? Isnt that what you guys were saying a couple of weeks ago?
>33474463Why blame Hololive and not VShojo Japan? She is under Vshojo, not Cover.Michael Cat can also stream on Youtube. Delta can stream on Youtube. There is no one else who can stop her from streaming Nazuna at Youtube except VShojo itself.
>>33474783nahone
I thought vshojo whores are indies???? contracts??? getting fired??? huh????????????????????????????/
>>33474640>>33474733 who cares? his fanbase is massively larger than pomu's, she can only sit and take it lest she get harassed into oblivion by luca fans. She, and her fans, are literally 2nd class citizens.
>>33474607isekai
>>33474738Isnt nazuna also an indie? Arent all vshojo girls an indie that only cooperate with vshojo?
>>33474610What's wrong with prohibiting them streaming as part of a corporation when they don't need a corporation to be making money on Youtube in the first place? Could you point to some of the negative effects of being only able to stream as mikeneko on Youtube and Nazuna on Twitch for presumably the next year or so?
Here's a horserace for you /#/. The "what could have been" girl debuting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6YvX_w-C0 vs Hololive ID Gen1 3D liveboth on the 20th
>>33474754He probably killed any motivation for anyone to do shit in that game.
Wait why didnt Vshojo just get Mike in the first place instead of debuting nazuna in vshojo?
>>33474738>Cannot stream on Youtube>Can stream on Twitch>It's Cover's faultVShojokeks believe Yagoo has power over Susan.
>>33474777She's perfect gozaru~~~I'm going to gozaru her
>>33474610The contracted was voided, she is not subject to any clause unless they gave her a severance package that specifies that clause.
how the fuck can nazuna get fired by hololive again if she streams on youtube? holy kek how do you faggots came to that conclusion?
>>33474593
>>33474876It's been more than two years, what took her this long?
>>>33474645Frankly, I'm disgusted by Cover's practicesFirst they set up Rushia to fail by not giving actual support or decent supervision during the whole mafumafu dramaNow that she's found success somewhere else, they're knee capping her so that she won't see a single dimeThe woman is no longer your employee Cover, she is no longer bound to your idol rulesFUCK COVER AND FUCK YAGOO
>>33474916Mental instability
>>33474909who?
>>33474610>Everyone agreesIt's literally fucking you posting in that thread, you have the exact same posting style as always seething 2view
>>33474906VShojo will fire Nazuna if she does anything that brings them into conflict with Cover.
>4m subs>Big event>Can't even get 4m subsHoloJP>HoloID>HoloEN
Isnt this the same nazucuck larper we had during her debut week
Wow this Cover anti is retarded
>>33474928Please be ironic
>>33474796If we're still alive by then
Kson and nazuna are indies and vshojo is not a corpo so cover's non compete clause won't work even if there is one.
>>33474928No matter how you push it, it's not going to stick sister
>>33474958fix your bait mate
>>33474928>Trusting backstabbing whore's mouthSasuga fancuck
>>33474640>kept flying around in creative harassing and teleporting people who were just trying to actually build until they joined in on his antics, turning a rebuild collab into a "fuck around and do nothing" collab.lol that actually sounds hilarious and like something you'd see from dream's gang, I'm sure the other livers enjoyed it because they have a sense of humour unlike hololive
>>33474725imaginahow much she regret...
>>33474947The only western corpo worth watching
>>33474880They didn't want her to have total freedom.
>>33474949Nope, haven't posted once in that thread. Keep coping though and thinking that only "one person" hates Cover. The entirety of the vtubing community despises Hololive and is only "nice" to them on the surface because they have all the power. Once Nijisanji overtakes them, they'll set a better example.
>>33474950How come vshojo fire nazuna if she is an indie????? Huh?
Vshojokeks really wanted to scapegoat Cover when the fault is obviously on VShojo.Case in point:>>33474928
>>33474640>Give admin rights to a retard>Retard go do retards things with itI'm shocked
>>33474738She won't marry you anon, she just want your wallet.
>>33474928This you?
>>33474916She's unironically peak menhera, Miguel looks like Sora compared with her. At least Triangle has some reasons that justify her mental illness
>>33474788She deserved to get fired and being blocked from working with another corpo on YT for a year is a good thing.
>>33474607Seething.
>>33474988Nijiniggers and vhiejocucks vibe well for a reason
>>33474876Anon, stop bullying her ...Also someone please save my son, he's being held hostage by horny woman again
>>33475039who? seriously i don't know what you're talking about.
>>33475057You can fire freelancers, anon.
>>33474928Tell me /#/bros, What cause this kind of mental illness?
>>33475052Misplaced hate, you mean. Fictional hate, you mean.
>>33474928ohnonononono
>>33474640And as we suspected nijiEN management is playing favorites>>33460199>Pomu is OK with the current state of thingsshe very obviously isn't if you watched the minecraft rebuild stream>She can't do a thing behind the scenesshe's said this before on stream in fact that she has very little power to affect change within the branch because she's not luxiem. even getting management to get her perms for shit is difficult.>but she's too scared to call attention to it in publicyou picked a bad example because pomu is very openly passive aggressive about things she dislikes in nijien, especially the luxiem favoritism.>she can't separate herself from it and do her own thing eitherthe minecraft server is basically her home, she built 90% of the server's infrastructure and was the one maintaining all the autofarms and shit. what do you want her to do, just stop playing minecraft entirely when she's one of like 3 people in the branch who genuinely loves the game just because an annoying manchild ruined the server? or what, you want her to stop interacting with luca entirely?
>>33474916She's pretty fucked up. Not recommended for anyone that values their time, money or sanity.
>use HoloEN for shitposting>use HoloID for shitposting>use Vshojo for shitpostingwhat should I use to get the most (You)s?
>>33474607Sisters being absolutely mindbroken
>>33474950>VShojo will fire Nazuna if she does anything that brings them into conflict with Cover.>While member of VShojo has openly shit on Hololive and its practice in the pass>And worse, Cover seems to not give any shit about any of that What does anon mean by this ... ?
>>33475124So? she just need to hire another management agency to manage her. What's the problem here?
>>33475148Get fucked, she'll never be on the same stage as them again.
>>33475120Ill give you the benefit of the doubt. Thats Sakana from Phase Connect their CEO/Yagoo/Riku whatever the fuck.
Ayamy 3D streams are always a treat
>>33474738
>>33475177try these keywords"selen, fat, 200, kg, laughing, dragon"
>>33475197Cover is clearly doing shady shit in the back on how VShojo should manage Nazuna.How any of you faggots can still support Cover after this makes me sick
>>33475135Terminal parasocial dependence. They cannot accept that she fucked up bad enough on her own and that they should have gone full black company protocol on rushia to prevent her from doing ANYTHING (which would be both illegal and actual black company nonsense) instead of accepting that she was a dumb menhera who was friends with a dramanigger and made a bad decision despite everyone around her telling her to just wait.
>>33475159Would be funny if this will lead to gender segregated servers
>>33475073>>33475165Do you mean that even if all those things didn't happen and she stay in Hololive, it's just a matter of time until she imploded?
>>33474928Oh my
>>33475177shit on two of the groups and praise the other one in the same post.
>>33475199Do your pros and cons analysis retard.
>>33475177Repackage the HoloEN reclining NijiEN inclining shitpost.
>>33475111Holy shit i won't even be surprised if mea already fucked roberu, maimoto, kanda, and oliver. She's too much of a filthy whore.
>>33474853Damn. I feel bad for pomudachis.. but, then i remember they are also kfp so fuck them
>>33475227Did she do a stream where she has sex with her viewers yet?
Anyone knows why even a nijien female can beat Luxiem nowadays?
>>33474928ඞ
>>33474640Oh godI can'tMy sides
>>33475216oh right. Why does he look like a typical chink though?
>>33475267Your larping is boring, anon.
>>33475334was that a collab? including males?
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>>33475111Son....no...stop bring the "toy" of holopro...
>>33475274Pretty much, her family is straight up abusive and the prime reason for her instability.
>>33475269But anon, that means they have to admit that Holo was right
>>33475334Luxiem is declining
>>33475267Yeah, ikr.Yagoo have assets in ukraine but their government froze it so he asked his friend putin to honor their agreement 30 years ago.
Why is it Rushia's fault for breaking down by mafumafu's fujo fans harassing her? Why were they no one that was there supporting her personally so that she didn't feel like going to Korekore is the only option left? Where were sankisei? Choosing which monkey for Pekora to buy?
>>33475334Pomu only got like 4k but it went up to 10k when she got gangraped by Luxiem live.
>>33475334Pomu's is a surprise collab. She's at 4k before the other showed up.
>>33475334big collab
Cover is responsible for the ukraine war btw.
kuzuha got JP gold today. he BTFOd the reddit duck.
>>33474640Somebody dumb this down for me, I don’t speak minecraftese
>>33475353He is Canadian so its expected
>>33475159Now i feel bad for pomu
>>33475334Because it's not solo stream.
>>33475409Now say it without crying, fancuck.
>>33475111I wish I was Roberu...
>>33475334holy crao the dehomofication of mysta is a mistake.
>>33475446he really didn't even care to restore what lost at this point.
>>33475334Mysta is trying his best huh? To bad he should focus more on the stream quality than then thumbnail and title.
>>33475274So, Triangle's issues are-She's autistic, like, actually diagnosed-Not just kusodad, but her mom is also not great, having taken money from her without permission-General menhera issues that all the young girls seem to be struck with on the JP sideSo, in a world where she didn't get blown the fuck up in her debut month, she very well could've ended up in a very problematic situation at home regardless, and she really wasn't equipped with the mental tools to deal with a situation that would've developed as a result of it. Think the same sorta thing Risu had to deal with. Now multiply that by AUTISM x MENHERA.
>>33475267I unironically support their efforts, just to make you sick.
>>33475035Honestly, I can only laugh at the retarded drama posters here. All the livers in NijiEN have already come out and forgiven Luca and even had a blast helping him rebuild the server. It's only dramafags (specifically Holofags) here who keep perpetuating this nothing burger
So Nijifags have opted to suddenly become a Vshojo and Nazuna fans to shitpost on Hololive.These leeches will try to find every opportunity to see what sticks huh!!
>>33475478You can humiliate me all you want, doesn't change the fact that it is true no one supported her back then.
>>33475334A shit ton of people showed up for Pomus stream.
>>33475516Cover should sue nazuna.
>>33475274No one can say, she would have had to tough it out for a couple more months until the manager swaps started happening, since the debut gen 5 manager was not too nice from certain accounts. After that it's possible she might have found enough support from managers, holos and fans to be able to break away from her shitty irl.
holobros i don't feel so good
>>33475334At least post the same game
You can argue with retards, or you can listen to Koyori in bath. Choose wisely.https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1eaJbrEdBrdJX
>>33475516based
>>33475446>Man fucks up server>server gets partially restored>man fucks with attempts to restore it even further
>>33475446tldr Luca moved their shit to places where its not functioning properly. (eg. farms can't farm) and doesn't want to deal with it after moving
>>33475298Why? Instead of having vshojo cucked all her merchs money, it's better to hire some people you can set the wage yourself to do your biddings and run your errands.
>Nijicucks, lucacucks and fancucks are cryin ITT
>>33475515what's risu's problem? she's poor or something?
>>33475409>be a company>employee has sudden drama while working>instead of actually helping, you tell them "tough it out kid, it's a weekend and I ain't working">employee tries to fix the problem themselves, but all hell breaks loose instead>instead of accepting the fault for not doing your job and help the employee, you shift the blame and fire them BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT YOU WERE A LAZY AND IRRESPONSIBLE FUCKIt was always Cover's fault from the start
>>33475543Chammer...
>>33475035Hello dream anon, it's been a while.
>>33475538NijiEN and Vshojo are incredibly close, actually. They're building the western vtubing scene while HoloEN stays in its walled garden. There's already talks of a Rust server with Vshojo and NijiEN in it
>>33475159>pass-aggroTruly best buddies with kiara rumao
>>33475390The only way for roberu to stop being the whore of the vtubing world is to graduate
>>33475543>Fact>Source: Voices in your dream
>>33475611-Suddenly got a ton of money>HEY RISU, GIB MONEY PLS >t.Risu's relatives
>>33475579AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT A NIGHTMARE
>>33475409>Why is it Rushia's fault for breaking down by mafumafu's fujo fans harassing her?Nobody is saying that, except for some retards.>Why were they no one that was there supporting her personally so that she didn't feel like going to Korekore is the only option left?Why didn't she rely on her friends enough that she went to Korekore instead? I don't want a friend like that. Backstabber.>Where were sankisei?Why would we assume that they are not there? Why would we assume that Michael Cat is incapable of doing evil things too? Why would we assume that she is incapable of backstabbing Sankisei?
>>33475334Did Mista stream yet?
>>33475611your stereotypical leech shit>Risu making bank, can buy a house and car>all of a sudden you have 18 different relatives trying to get close to you and your money
>>33475586Even worse, it was a fresh server where they were transferring stuff from their previous server's backups.
>>33475515She can deal with it with more support and stronger bond with gokisei if it happened months into her career instead of at the start. Her kusodad problem will be solve faster too with her moving away from her home and live by herself faster with the money she has. All this leave the blame on whoever that made accelerated the incident by revealing PL of all gokisei.
>>33475579
>2 big events today>/#/ talking about Nazucuckogey
>>33475616she didn't listen to their advice to tough it out, that's on her.
>>33475646This is true btwSuddenly gaining huge amount of money is a nightmare when dealing with your relatives
>>33475573yes, hello?
>>33475619>There's already talks of a Rust server with Vshojo and NijiEN in itWith how fast those talks goes, I can wait for their first stream on server in 2030.
>>33475573who the fuck is that dude, I see him everywhere in the nijigirls channels these days
>>33475692Any clip of this? that's pretty common for nba players too
>>33475591>Just hire someone that gives you better service (& outcome) for cheaper cost bro
>>33475616All she had to do was taking a 1-2 weeks vacation and let Cover take care of the rest but she had to be stupid about it
you can tell holo is having a great week when the antis resort to larping as both nijifags and vshocucks
>>33475666>Why would we assume that Michael Cat is incapable of doing evil things too?Because fancucks gotta fancucks
>>33475584I'll only listen to her if she's taking a shit
>>33475586>break again for a better storySome anons called it rumao
>>33475611Bad home issues, said on a public stream that she might have been just married off if she hadn't joined holo.https://youtu.be/aOOf5RHLO5I
>>33475616that's what towa did and now she's thriving.
>>33475584Oh Pomus artist is there.
>>33475741IPN, his avatar used to be a little shrimp before
>>33475616The drama is Cover's problem caused by Rushia's stupidity. The employee must just shut up and let the big guy fix it. But no, that idiotic employee wants to fix it herself by selling out her company. She made the problem MUCH WORSE.
>>33475584I'm doing both at the same time
>>33475616Based cover. Cutting out the rotten branch before it spread out more
>>33475646>>33475692Ah yes, a classic asian family moveEven up until now, my grandma keeps begging for money and new gadgets from my father and his siblingst. flip
>>33475769We are winning pretty hard right now, our success mindbroke everybody else in this thread
>>33475745Not exactly the leeches but an example of her home situation.https://youtu.be/aOOf5RHLO5I
>>33475772Im a fandead and i think cover should have have stepped in more quickly especially when she was one of their top talents.But I think this current drama right now has more to do with kson either screwing her over to get a bigger cut or kson not understanding/explaining the contract more to her.
>>33475844Just need a final crushing blow. EN3 WHERE?!
Did Holo already win global and cripple gold for the month?
>>33475616Are you jobless anon, have you ever worked in a company before??Or are you from China where you believe Cover owns Rushia RM and should have access to all personal accounts and ban her forcefully??
>>33475455every time you feel that way, remember this
>>33475616I seriously hate the fact that people actually used "it is weekend" as an excuse for not working. If I have my way every sector in this world would have a system where 24/7 oncall is mandatory.
>>33475584Bless
>>33475887Never happening faggot
>>33475694That's basically "partial restoration". Nobody really cares about the landscape so long as biomes are ok (and it sounds like Luca has 'fixed' that non-problem).
>>33475901ALL OUT WHORE LMAOdeserved you bitch
>>33475894Yea.
>>33475409Absolutely. Deserved.
>>33475894yes.
I hereby declare September a good month
What do you think the numbers for Kiara's new song will be?https://youtu.be/QI96hnhcr2E
>>33475904and this is why we should eat the rich
>>33475666>Why would we assume that they are not there?If they were there Rushia wouldn't have chose to go to Korekore, use your braincells retard.
>>33475788funny thing, as an indog I didn't bother watching that clip because that sounds pretty common and not far-fetched. clickbait was designed with western non-traditionalist audience in mind lol
Fortunately there are no Gura lewds
>>33475887EN3 would be a mistake. The branch is collapsing with just 10 people. Adding another 5 into the mix would completely destroy it.
>>33475922Damn man, that was fast, I was thinking it'd be a little longer before you responded.
>>33475619Anon, 2 shitters combining will just make a bigger pile of shit
Who won gold today?
>>33475754I mean there's literally tons of management agencies out there with different prices and deals out there. Cant she do a research to find something that fits her? Instead of joining some vague management agency like vshojo who even refuse to call themselves managemeng agency.
>>33475894Yes
>>33475977Rombus
>>33475887now that Hololive major events are ending today, the next 6 WEEKENDS are pretty much empty with only korone birthday on 1st oct which is Saturday, and the entire november weekend is also pretty much empty.EN3 soon
>>33475802She always listens to every Holo's space. I wonder if she is trying to get Hololive gig.
>>33475977
>>33475955It seems like you're the absolute retard here
>>33475977Risu. Gura's stream is disqualfied for multiple Zs
>>33475977my cute shark wife
>>33475923Yup, but there were issues with the way he did it.>pretended he was moving people's houses but what he really did was lazily moved the ENTIRE CHUNKS that those buildings were on and just dropped them haphazardly, destroying everything down to the bedrock.>moved Pomu's drowned farm into a non-river biome so now it's just an ugly abomination that doesn't spawn any drowned. she asked him to move it to a river and he just ignored her.And was trolling the others during the rebuild stream.>>33474640
>>33475988Risu?
>>33475998Is there a precedent?
>>33476048No. Goober
>>33475977goomba
>>33475879nigga they put out official supporting statements all your whore had to do was sit still and let it all die down but she's too retarded to do that
>>33475894IIRC global is now a tie (at least, and if you go by the Tsukasa tally) while cripple might alread be holo win?
>>33476059Koyori's mama
>>33475977The vtuber cunny weight champion of the world.
nijien is a very dysfunctional sitcom family
>>33475955>If they were there Rushia wouldn't have chose to go to Korekore.Why would we assume that Rushia thinks Sankisei's support is enough? Why would we assume that Rushia wants to rely on them?I used my brain cells. And I concluded that Rushia is so evil that she threw Sankisei under the bus to save her own ass.
>>33476003>>33476040Risu it is then
>>33475971AgreeThey can't repeat the same mistakes like nijienThey collapsed because of spamming too many waves
>>33475802she is always in holo spaces, she also was in Kronii's the other day
>>33475879Joining vshojo in the first place was retarded. Should've stay migonegro and just hired some managers to handle her shits
>>33476089Nah Holo got 15 with Tsukas and 1 indie gold means Niji can max get 14 golds this month.
>>33474738>I always knew something was fishy about Rushia's termination -- never realized just how disgusting Covers practices were until now thoughWait until you find out what they did to Kson's friends.
>>33475769Let then seethe while we hologod dance on their grave
>>3347608914-1-1 is yesterday anonit will be 15-1-1 with Goobs gold
>Mafumafu waits a couple of days before releasing his PR agency-approved statement>gets away scot-free>Rushia acts quickly within hours >killedHuh, guess not acting quickly on a kneejerk response like a retard and waiting to release a proper PR statement was the right move after all
>>33475894Global is 1 gold behind thanks to Tsukasa but the Rust tournament will probably cinch it tomorrow.Niji has one gold each in global and EN iirc.
>>334757222? What's the 2nd?
>only 3k waiting for Kiara's new song Another Fever Night I guess
>>33476169>>33476160oh yeah, 30 days in september
>>33475989>NovemberAnon, there's sportsfes in the first week of November. >>33476059There are artists who have both Hololive and Nijisanji daughers/sons, so I don't see why not?
>>33475951Factory and business owners are unironically already oncall 24/7, so don't give me that shit.
how much did risu get?
>15 golds on the 18th>niji can't get 15 anymore cause of tsukasaholochads status?
feels very /sp/ in here
>>33475799>TowaWho cares
Wait can someone explain to me why people are bringing up kson and nazuna? What the fuck happened now?
>>33475619>>33475901I don’t believe you guys especially Paul Li. He’ll get -15 social credit point for that
Hololive won
>>33476211Sportfes is not confirmed yet, might change into something else
>>33474738Wasn't kson touting that she was still an indie even when working with Vshojo? So why is Nazuna suddenly a corpo vtuber now?
I like how the conversation completely shifted from kson possibly getting a better contract than mike to focusing solely on mike, are we sure that it's a nazucuck that is shifting the narrative?
>>33475989Am I the only one who don't want EN3??Adding new talents to a stagnated industry is just going to create problems for the existing talents.I would rather they either focus on opening regional branches or invest money on EN management
susan? exquseme?
>>33476119If Rushia thought that sankisei didn't support her enough, clearly means that senkisei didn't make her feel secure enough about the situation.
>>33476189Risu and Goobs.
Man enjoy your victory while you can holoshit because nijifes on it's way. Hololive has nothing left and I mean nothing they used every buff possible.>Rust is died>ID had 3D debuts>Gura used 1st concert buff>Swimsuits buff >Holocure buff gone They actually used every single buff they possible could. There nothing left that can stop nijifes which is going to be a month long celebration of all things nijisanji. Plus wave 7 coming in december the rest of the year should easily go to nijisanji.
>>33475958So it's like what most SEA would jokingly say that they'd get married if they're not successful?
>>33476289the nijinigger trembles in fear
Man, Koyori's laughter there is really cute
>>33474738Cover is super based for what they did
>>33476257Vwhorejo intern is working extra hour for damage controling the menhera statement.
>>33476146Shut upI want more ILunas
>>33476275Cope
>>33476304Keep trying cuck, she won't fuck you
THE NIJINIGGERS ARE RUNNING SCARED MY FELLOW HOLOCHADS
Is she going for JP7 audition?
>>33476201It’s kiara’s fault for releasing it at a dogshit timeslot
>>33476313Anon, you said this last month...
>>33476313>holocure buff goneshitters like sora or lui are still getting 10ks with it
>>33476275She's still an indie in the sense that she can stream whatever she wants with full creative control, but she's not an indie for tax purposes or when dealing with other companies.
>>33476257Discord raid and mindbroken sis
>>33476269True, it'd just seem odd to not have it again this year, even if the FORMAT has to change to accommodate the increased number of members.
>>33476313
>>33476306Oh ok, I'm in the US so to me Gura was yesterday.
>>33476313>If
HOLOCRUSADERS, do not fall into INFIGHTING by the TRICKS and DECEIT of the NIJINFEDELS! The time of RECKONING is NEAR and our PROMISED CHILD will soon SMITE their BLIGHTED CHAMPION where she stood!
>>33476313Anon monster girl EN3 debuts mid october.
This BGM is pretty huge, but I can't really put into words how huge.
>>33476269The ID sports festival already replaced the JP sports festival this year.
>>33476313>celebration of all things nijisanjiDidn't pride already happen this year?
>>33476323Are you a retard by any chance, where do you get Niji from that statement??
>>33476465IT'S FUCKING HUGE BGM
>>33476423
>>33476257Rushia will get fired from Vshojo if she talks about Cover and she is salty that she can't stream on Youtube
>>33476304>If Rushia thought that sankisei didn't support her enough, clearly means that senkisei didn't make her feel secure enough about the situation.Exactly! We finally agreed!She does not feel that Sankisei is assuring her. She does not feel that they cared. Why? It is because she cannot rely her feelings into them. Because she DOES NOT trust them enough. What a nice friend you have.
>>33476447
>>33475998She does seem to be a pretty big Holofan, she was watching Risu earlier. She would 100% jump on the chance of designing a Holo.
>they think EN 3 is coming
>>33476342Better hire that dexerto "journalist" again. But last I checked they stopped writing about vhojo and pretty updated with hololive rur
>>33476510
>>33476560NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
so now that we won the month, what do you guys want to do
>>33476257Cover is fucking over Nazuna with a non-compete clause so numberfags are in damage control mode and trying to control the narrative.
Music is niceCan't understand what the fuck kiara is saying
>>33476313>Rust is diedLET'S GOO!!!NijiEN and VShojo is planning to have a Rust server though. I guess it's a waste.
>>33476520Sankisei didn't let her feel safe enough. They failed to make Rushia trust them enough to not go to Korekore.
>>33476583
>>33476623keep trying, she still won't fuck you
>>33476515She can stream on Youtube, just not as her less famous VShojo persona but as her more famous roommate which should get a much better cut of any SCs since Youtube is still 30:70 compared to Twitch now going to 50:50.
>Very Kpop-style original from KiaraShould do better than Fever Night then.
>>33476657You don't know that
>>33476619mourn the death of holoEN
>>33476619Catching up on house of dragons and edgerunner
>>33476655Fbk..
The Gura lore anime is at 900k, damn
>>33476623Why is there a non-compete clause when she is fired?
>>33476619Burn all these fankek and it's larper
>>33476471kEK
>>33476313Nothing?
>>33476698I know because she is my personal onahole
>>33476619we shit on nijiniggers and laugh at their pathetic copes, just like we do every month
Wtf is that waist, VRChat?
>>33476732
>another members only rust stream But why
>>33476257Don’t fall for Paul Li psyops. Why would they side with coco… they want holo fan to attack rushia and coco
>>33476851they are unironically going to kill rust with this
>>33476447based
>>33476742For the sake of an actual argument for why she WOULD have such a thing:As part of ensuring she'd get her cut of everything like her merch and stuff that had her image on it, she accepted a non-compete. Of course, this was before she knew she'd end up in VSJ Japan, so now she has to deal with it. This is purely headcanon though.
>>33476833
Kiara peaked with SPARKS and everything after is average at best
Kiara new song is a banger I won't be surprised to see it blow up on tiktok. This shit is one of the best 3D mv I seen a hololive talent make. It's on par with treasure box
>>33476742Because she signed a contract with a non-compete clause in it. That's how contracts work. They're active even after you no longer work there.
>>33476560Damn he's right, it's just like Counc2l
>>33476922
STREAM DOUhttps://youtu.be/QI96hnhcr2E
>>33476742You can enforce non-competes on someone you've fired but you have to have a very good legal reasoning to enforce it, not just "they signed it and I don't want them to work for anyone else". You have to prove that their working for a rival and sharing info or contacts would be critically harmful to your business, which is impossible in this case or indeed in any vtuber's case.
>>33476851who
/news/ roundup for 18-09-2022 (all times are in JST)> Gura held a 3D Live (https://youtu.be/5-hwTE_O8WY).). Also revealed a lore animation (https://youtu.be/kJGsWORSg-4).).> Bae and Mori appeared at Hololive x Crunchyroll Expo Australia (https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1571343001347293184).).> Rosemi was the tour guide for TGS 2022 online experience tour (https://youtu.be/pW5pZSfDfiE).).> Miori Celesta (indie) revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/UymD-UyOPEI).).> Polka organizing a HoloRust Battle Royale to be held tomorrow (https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1571420843733037056).).> Risu showcased her 3D model today (https://youtu.be/VxnwBm49egM).).> HoloID Gen 1 will be having a mini 3D Live on 20th at 10pm (https://youtu.be/VxnwBm49egM?t=3094).).Previous : >>33387135August roundup : >>32140520
I FUCKING HATE KANAURU RETARDED BLOOM EFFECT SO MUCH BROS
>>33476690Holo who's pivoting to KR>Kiara>BaeWho else I miss?
>>33476313>Hololive has nothing leftEN3 debut confirmed for Nijifes timeslot.
>>33476851is she at least doing like a secret project or something?
Kiara's new song seems pretty good, can't wait for someone else to sing it instead of Kiara.
>>33477025Chloe
>>33477008IT'S DO U YOU FUCKIN' PLEBAnd I'm already relistening to it, it's pretty good despite the chicken voice.
>>33476645Wow! It's now Sankisei's fault!Saint Michael Cat cannot be at fault at all!But honestly, Korekore is also her friend. So there is nothing wrong with going at him, actually. The problem is that he is a retarded dramanigger. If he just shut up and figure the problem out without streaming it, it won't happen to Michael.
>>33476690>>33477035HOLOKR SOON
>>33476930False, Kiara peaked with Hinotori and everything else that came afterwards fucking sucked
Umami
>>33476931Her voice makes me close the tab fast enough but the beat is really nice. The song is wasted to a chicken voice
>>33477003
>>33477027Did rosemi came across the hololive VR booth?
>>33476851>>33476908kanata started this plague
>>33476931>It's on par with treasure boxdo kfps really
Review on Kiara new song:Great dancingAverage SingingGood beatAverage mixingIf Kpop fans like it, it could get 1mil otherwise its a 300k-500k song
>>33476930The MV is nice though, problem the model is glitched and as usual overly animated
>>33477069why members only
>>33477014It doesn't matter if it's actually enforceable, the million dollar corporation can drag it out in court forever and make you waste all your money in legal fees.
>>33476931>It's on par with treasure boxCalm down a bit broBut yeah, the song is a banger and loopable, I think it will do great numbers
>>33477008>>33477071(me)I'm an idiot and realized why you said DOU instead of Do U. Carry on.
>>33476619I got a job overseas, had to say goodbye to my parents an hour ago and im starting to regret it. I had a cozy depressed neet life at home watching vtubers and talking about numbers all day long but I can't change myself being too comfortable at home. I can't really shake the feeling now, I need to report to work in 2 days.
>>33475982Still you're just going "Just find a better one bro"First of all management agencies thats specialised with Vtuber issues are not all that common out there. (Vtuber experience is relevant because of IP issues) Vwhorejo despite being far far behind from hololive and nijikek is still one of the top agencies for vtubers out there, not to mention that fact that it is vouched by kekson who she trusts to some degree. Secondly, researching about a suitable partner is not something just about finding the best prices and deals out there. You'd actually have to look deep into their past job experiences, check their reputation from other members of the industry, interview them multiple times, and sometimes even check their finances. It's difficult to do properly if she doesn't have the relevant management experience. Even then, she can do extensive research and still end up with something shit, and people will still say why she didn't do better research.
>>33477113wait what kiara new song
An anon from the other thread actually brought up a good point. Why doesnt vshojo try to contest that clause if thats the case? I mean isnt that what they are there for to support the streamer?
>>33477035Zeta has a lot of Korean fans, I don't watch her enough to know if she panders to them on the level of Kiara or bae though.
>>33477090
>>33477065everybody hates kiara now so don't hold your breath for that.
>>33477065>leave it to me
>>33477077>friend>used her drama to make some money, ruining her career in the processWith friends like these, who needs enemies?
>>33477152DO U RELLY BELEIVE IT
>>33477014It's possible if we're talking about things like the details of sponsorship deals, which can be sensitive information both for Cover and their sponsors, but in the first place a clause like that would likely bar mikeneko from signing up with VShojo in the first place, so that's clearly not it.
indies? talent freedom? where is it vshojo cucks
>>33477151Wish you good luck on your new journey anon.
>>33477157obviously because it's not the case retard
>>33477165
Interesting. Other than the 3ds, what exactly could she be talking about?
>>33477169this is the new 23k btw
>>33476619I'm gonna draw androgynous women wearing cool jackets and then later make fries and bacon for dinner.
>>33477153>why she didn't do better research.Well.. why couldnt she? She've been doing this shit for almost a decade
>>33477251Kiara released a song today too you know?
>>33477251more male collabs of course
>>33477218>but in the first place a clause like that would likely bar mikeneko from signing up with VShojo in the first place, so that's clearly not itthis but vshojo fags would ignore this.
>>33477157Because the procedure of "contesting" is also really costly, especially when you are unsure whether the outcome will turn into your favour.
>>33477251Well, the biggest guess is >EN3But she also could've moved it to give Kiara's new song some room to breathe as well.
>>33477243
>>33476275>why is Nazuna suddenly a corpo vtuber now?because fit his narrative
>>33477157Because it doesn't affect her ability to make money? If her income is down it's literally between her and her gachis, it has absolutely nothing to do with the non-compete clause since nothing is stopping her from farming SCs as mikeneko on Youtube if she really wanted to do it right now.
>>33477251EN 3Can we talk about it again now that the new week are bound to have an EN 3 announcement now
>>33477251Goes retarded once in a while, im sure deadbeats agree
>>33477098Fist kanata, then fbk, and now chloe It's fucking over >>33477127Easy way to get more members
>>33477251Obviously kiara being ME ME ME about her song
>>33477179I think it suits Bae or Kanata more than Suisei
>>33477230So whats the reason preventing her from streaming in youtube then? Cause people are saying that its Covers clause? Cause if that is the case then that other anon is right and Vshojo support is really worthless.
>>33476931I guess I'm really out of touch, because that song sounds like absolute shit to me. The MV is nice, I guess.
>>33477266>Just do better bro.
>>33477130No they can't, it's a basic matter of civil law, not a corporate merger. There's no way to "drag it out" and you would be granted an injunction to continue working if they did try that. It's against general legal principle to prevent someone from maintaining their livelihood with the tools of their trade, which would be telling a streamer they can't stream on the main Japanese streaming platform.
>>33476423Abandon god.
>>33477326haven't heard that for a while.
Is anycolor's business model a long term one?
why did iroha do it bros
>kanauru shitman this feels meh
>>33477299
>>33477251>big eventsDuring PST hours? What a lie, are the homos gonna release something?
>>33477309EN3 isn't even a possibility any more. You can see how badly Cover treats the EN branch. Why would they bother hiring new members?
>>33477091No it was a guided tour/reaction stream to two fleshies on site so they didn't show anything other than the corpo booths.
>>33477251Kiara's new song and she also has a solo mv on the 20
>>33477376https://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/971Reminder that Riku is a trend-hopping, short-term oriented type of CEO. He had four failed business ventures and by his own admission he only released Nijisanji to "ride the wave" of VTubers and "get immediate results". He does not care about Nijisanji because he will simply "move on to the next thing" if it doesn't work out. The IPO is him cashing out his stocks.> 今でこそ注目される田角さんだが、大失敗も経験している。2017年、別の動画サービスを仲間と立ち上げたが、投資元が見つからず事業を畳んでいるAlthough Mr. Tazumi is now in the spotlight, he has also experienced major failures: In 2017, he launched another video service with a few colleagues, but the business folded when they could not find an investment source.> バーチャルYouTuberの事業をはじめる以前に、4つの事業を立ち上げたのですが、失敗しました。出資を受けることができず、2人いた仲間も辞めて、自分だけが残って。"Before starting the virtual YouTuber business, I had started four businesses, but they failed. I couldn't get investment, two of my colleagues quit, and I was the only one left."> ただ、もともとの性格でいえば、ダラダラしがちで。だからこそ、逆に短期集中で一気にやっちゃいたいんですよね。It's just that my personality is the "lazy" type. So I prefer to do things in short, concentrated bursts.> さすがに人生の全部を集中するなんて無理なので、「やる時」と「やらない時」をきっぱり分けるようにしています。Obviously it's impossible to concentrate on everything in life all at once, so I try to make a clear distinction between "when to do" and "when not to do".> バーチャルYouTuber市場は立ち上がったばかりの市場。集中して取り組みたいですね。The virtual YouTuber market is a market that has just started. I want to concentrate on it.> 「すぐに結果が出る、短期勝負がしたい」Title : I want to play the game in a way that I get immediate results.> じつは、バーチャルYouTuberで勝負をしたのも、短期集中に向いている事業だと思ったからIn reality, we went with virtual YouTubers because we thought it was a business suited for short-term focus.> 日本でもフィッシャーズの「笑ってはいけないアニ文字がツボに入ってしまった。」という動画が少しずつバズりはじめていて。マーケットもありそうだし、animoji×生配信をテーマにしようと考えていきました。In Japan, the video series from "The Fishers'" called "YLYL : Animated emoji." got viral, and there seemed to be a market for it (This thing : https://youtu.be/28jAR_LDNJE).).> 流行りはじめていたanimojiとライブ配信、この掛け合わせに集中をすれば、自分でも勝負ができると思ったんです。I thought that if I concentrated on the combination of animoji and live streaming - which was starting to become popular - I could compete in this field.> その頃、バーチャルYouTuber『キズナアイ』が100万登録突破し、めちゃくちゃ盛り上がってきていて。女性YouTuberの中でも上位にランクインしてきて。Around that time, VTuber "Kizuna Ai" had just surpassed 1M subs and was getting very popular. She was ranked high among female YouTubers.> バーチャルYouTuberがくることは間違いなかった。その波に乗っかろうと「にじさんじ」をリリースしました。There was no doubt that virtual YouTubers were coming. I released "Nijisanji" to ride that wave.> この先、バーチャルYouTuberもいつまで伸び続けるかわからないですよねIn the future, we don't really know how long virtual YouTubers will continue to grow.> ただ、それでいいと思ってるんです。次に「来る」と思った領域があったら、そこにどんどん張っていく。However, I think that's fine. If I see a field that I think will be the next viral thing, I'll just expand into it.> なんせ僕は短期集中タイプなので(笑)After all, I am a short-term-focus type of person (lol).
>>33477363Found the guy who never had to fight a bullshit lawsuit.
>>33477229yeah, hope I'd survive 2-3 years getting exp before going back home and find a local position there
>>33477391
>>33477387watching kanauru shit feels like watching radioactive people through mist
>>33477218That's an NDA which is a separate thing. If they could prove she was leaking information they could go after her but they can't keep someone from hiring her, nor keep her from streaming.
>>33477251ID1 3D showcasesGura's 3D liveAme's King CoverBae and Mumei duet coverKiara's original song
>>33477399THE NIJINIGGER IS RUNNING SCARED
>>33477412okay then
>>33477376Slow and steady ACCELERATION
>>33477423Kek. Didnt expect you to pull this pasta seconds later anon
>>33477447
>>33477305>Because it doesn't affect her ability to make money?Not being able to stream in youtube is affecting her ability to make money though?
anybody have the "things cover should do.txt" file
>>33477305>nothing is stopping her from farming SCs as mikeneko on Youtube if she really wanted to do it right now.You sure about that? Her last stream is 4 months ago.
>>33477339her vshoujo contract most likely
>>33477509
>>33477490>Slow and steadykek
>>33477127I believe the logic is that by barring it behind members only, it prevents the worst of the pigeons and problems in chat. Also, they probably made the calculated decision that they don't need grey Rustnigs shitting things up even if they get more numbers for it.
>>33477529She couod as mikenigga
>>33477553
>>33476289You say stagnation, but the audience ceiling keeps getting higher each year.EN2 already given enough time to build a solid base.Council number is better than Myth last month, and without Gura and Ina carrying their gen, the trends will continue as so.If anything they should have debuted every six months until EN4, then slow down to one gen per year at most.
>>33477553can't you save this shit for after the 3D mini live? risu will have a shot at being in a gold-winning stream on that day.
>>33477499I mean, at some point the talking points become automatic and you just have everything saved to slap in the faces of some uppity nijikek.
>>33477464They can prevent her from being hired by someone in the same field due to fears of trade secrets being leaked to them, which is what a non-compete clause is about, no?
>>33477544We don't know the details of her contract with Vshojo but as far as anything to do with Cover yes she can stream on youtube.
>>33477587but nazuna is different from mike and she could potentially have more with nazuna than with mike.
did someone surprise overlap her
>>33477611
>>33477445im rooting for you anon! go get 'em bread
I wonder why the thread is peaceful today, normally it will just be ba->At least 5(F I V E) fucking bait threads in catNever minded then
>>33477499I literally have it saved on the same notepad I keep my grudgeposts
>>33477650Then why is vshojo banning her from streaming on YT?
>>33477544>Her last stream is 4 months ago.Falseflagger EXPOSED!When was she fired? When did she get hired by VShojo? Connect the dots.
>>33477544Four months ago is after she already was terminated, so wouldn't that mean it couldn't be Cover preventing her from using Youtube?
>>33477614you're all just shitposting might as well just do what i want
>>33477399Are you not tired spouting the same bullshit every thread?
>>33477678Do you keep the Coep list as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGsWORSg-4900k and blowing the f out
>>33477678Based
>>33477662too late for ens + too much overlap from jps
>>33477080Even Kiara's version of hinotori is beat by Mori.
>>33477731yes ## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITIONNumbered for your convenience and easy referencing.Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)** CLASSIC **> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>** NUMBERS **> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>** MERCH AND SPONSORS **> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)** IT DOESN'T COUNT **> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)** GENERAL **> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)> #42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)</span>> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)> #45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, <span class="deadlink">>>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)</span>> #46 "X is an Honorary Niji, so a win for X is a win for Niji" (HAL >>11870872 (Dead), Ui <span class="deadlink">>>12196318 (Dead), Laplus >>14528887 (Dead), Patra >>1580589 (Dead) >>12765557 (Dead), Towa >>28794226 (Dead)).</span>And when all else fails...> #47 Blatant Lying> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)And after all that...> #48 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>
>>33477614But, they will only get 30k....
>>33477662no, just the average weekend jps
>>33477720
hololive still can't beat genshit beat LycoReco the most popular ongoing anime though
>>33476931yea the song is surprisingly good, the mv is awesome tho
>>33477685>>33477157Anon my original question is for the people who were thinking that cover is banning her from streaming in yt.
>>33477763pekora's lapdog is going to be in it. it'll get more than 30k purely because of that. i'm sure the first army will set up another funnel for her.
>>33477778
>>33476731HotD>>RoP and yet both sucks. HoloGoT when?
>>33476931as much as i want to shit on her, this time she kinda nailed it
A falseflagger is shitting up the thread without bringing in some numbers. Worst of all, she got exposed as a fake Nazucuck when he said that Michael Cat last streamed 4 months ago.If you are really a Michael Cat fan, you will know this is not true.
>>33475159Holy black company
>>33477529Sure, let's concede that as a theory. Even in the case she's not farming money on Youtube, she certainly seems to be farming money on TwitCast, so I don't think VShojo is particularly concerned about her being unable to make a living.https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
>/vt/ starts a 'horse race' over ccv for fun and it is the one number that dominates the /#/ discussion the most>ccv is not the most reliable metric of success, especially when isolated from other factors>/here/ tubers like all of nijiEN (including management) and Magni who for some reason are influenced by what the anonymous shitposting forum 4chan says start obsessing over ccv until it affects their mentalOne of the more outlandish rrats but one of the funnier ones
>>33477634They would have to prove she has some kind of training or proprietary knowledge critical to the success of the business. Not just "general knowledge of some upcoming events" which anybody who works anywhere has some knowledge of. You probably can't enforce a non-compete anywhere in the entire vtubing industry, but if you had to try the best chance would be with someone like A-chan or one of the core 3D tech people, if it's proprietary technology.
>>33477848
>>33474640Why didn't they just let Pomu be in-charge of the fixing? Isn't she the most knowledgeable in Minecraft among the NijiEN livers?
hello, I just wanted to say that I don't care for gura, and don't care for EN in general, didn't even watch the 3D but I have to give props where props is due, this is the most feminine thing I've seen a holo girl doI don't know why but I can imagine her saying "you guys" in that tone and it tugs on the strings of my heartfuck ENsharts especially shitty cumbuds and teacucks, but gura is in fact cute
This compete clause rrat is so bullshit. If it is a clause for vtuber but mikeneko stream as a vtuber already. If it is a clause for corpo but vshojo isn't even a corpo.
>>33477734>ISREAL
>>33477761based
We know that Riku is a trend-hopper. Expect him to give more favors on Luxiem over the rest of NijiEN and Niji main.
>NotRushia gets assblasted by Vshojo>Lulucia gets assblasted by Ym-sama in One Piece on the same dayAHAHAHHAHAH IT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED WITH RUSSIA ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!
Kiara new MV feels like kpop.
>>33477921with that many caveats you sound like a twitterfag
>>33477896Streaming on youtube is still a potential source of income and vshojo should be able to contest that cover contract on court if thats the case.
>>33477811Fujo money manCan't underestimate them
>>33477849It's already happened during 2020-'21 with Pekora as the one sitting on The Holo Throne
>>33477717Or she streamed there a couple times, Cover told her stop or they'll sue her, then she stopped.
>>33477921>enshart schizo has to fight back the shark's cuteness>b-begone foul meme shart, m-my hatred for ENsharts is too great>s-stop saying you guyssssCome home, Samurai.
>>33474640>>33474640I can't speak for the scenery because I don't know how the NijiEN server was like, but here's a selection of tomfoolery from the stream.https://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=1050> Luca bombs their Group photo, literallyhttps://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=1189> Luca went @e and it teleported everyTHING to one spothttps://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=3271> Drowned farm eventually worked outhttps://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=5316> Diamond wallhttps://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=5584> Diamond mountainhttps://youtu.be/BYGYviO-glY?t=5728> Entire server was copy pasted on top of water so they'll continuously keep hearing drowned.
>>33477960>ym-samawhat translation are you reading
>>33477970she's pandering to Korea because the western market is dead. le 4 million shark couldn't even get 100k with a first army stacked 3D live at US prime time.
>>33477916Isnt general knowledge of some upcoming events a knowledge critical to the success of a buisness?
>>33477685We don't know, it's possible they want to focus on making Japanese streaming viable on Twitch and don't want their new acquisition to go slinking back to youtube if it didn't work out immediately. Vshojo JP will never make much of a dent on youtube, the market is too saturated, their only real play was cultivating JP twitch usage amongst a certain demographic. To that end, sign Nazuna, pay her a big upfront bonus, but restrict her streaming to twitch.
>>33477970
>>33476931Is it? Even Astrogirl sounds better than this.
>>33477914>ccv is not the most reliable metric of success, especially when isolated from other factorsBaffling post
>>33477921Thanks second last samurai
>>33477613In what way has this years performance of HoloEN better than last year??Council is performing better than Myth but only in streaming, EN3 will have the same problem.They might incline at the start but then they will have a standstill.EN or even ID to an extent is lacking in opportunities that JP gets.EN Hologra? EN organized big events? Big EN sponsorships? EN 3D debuts?They need to invest for their other branches not just JP
>>33475159Might not be best to directly copy paste stuff from the thread./NijiEN/ has a population that don't watch every liver and obvious factionalism against Pomu and the OG lazufans, so the luxiem fujos often post blatant lies about them on the thread and no one will correct them (because they're all on the Lazu thread).
>>33477916I was thinking about financial details of sponsorships which might allow VShojo to offer a better deal to compete for sponsors, but yeah, fair enough, that's not exactly critical to the streaming business either in the sense that tech would be.
>>33478026> Entire server was copy pasted on top of water so they'll continuously keep hearing drowned.Kek. But still I won't watch it.
When people take bait from /#/ and go to to the catalog with it, I wonder if they realize how niche it is>HAHAHAH RISU BEAT KUZUHAcatalog>who? what? huh? what's the rrat?
>>33477914Outlandish, because what hits them more is views and subgrowth. When THOSE are slow and low, thats when you go menhera.
>>33478011Looking sus there
>>33477970she's laying the groundwork for HoloKR
>>33477734Do you think this could turn out to be the first 50 mil video of a vtuber?
>>33477157you're arguing seriously against something a retarded vsjfan made up in their head anon.
>>33478026Wow, he really doesn't respect what the others have done in minecraft.
>>33477811OJOU AISHITE
>>33475067this you?
>>33478026so can we say that NijisanjiEN minecraft is dead?
>>33477921Same, the idol/CGDCT fiesta in the past month made me appreciate Gura a lot more than before despite pretty much never watching EN streams. Tuned in to her 3D Live today, and I must say her Fansa have showed her growth as an idol by a lot.
Did EN stop playing Rust?
>>33478108>>33478031The Nijinigger fears the holochad
Not even esport organizations has non compete clause for their players and they trade their players for $. It just doesn't work if you go to court.
>>33478222You can go to the Nazina thread and picrel would perfectly depict the nazucuks' behavior, how weird.
>>33478223it was never alive
>>33478222>wojakget a grip, tourist
>>33477640VShojo lets them stream on porn sites. Kson is on Youtube more than Twitch, one of them has an alter ego who is a full-time Youtuber, Nyanners did half her streams on Youtube last year, she could still be doing that for all I know I don't follow her. Several of them stream in Discord too or on alt Twitch accounts. Nazuna and Mike are the only ones who seem to be avoiding Youtube for whatever reason. Even if you think VShojo is shady, it doesn't make any sense at all business-wise for them to restrict her to Twitch, more platforms means more fans which means more people to buy merch. There's clearly some other party involved.
>>33478222nta but thanks i havent seen that one and its a nice collection as a reference for containment breakers.
>>33478246If they did is in no way related with the nothingburger between Gura and Watson
>>33478246>kiara starts playing rust frequently>the rest stopsholy shit
>>33478026This isn't yab worthy because it's a fucking block game, but this is one of the best retardation arc besides Chloe going schizo
>>33478054No. There is no way for Vshojo to capitalize on anything Rushia could know to cause significant economic harm to Cover. The talents, as important as they are in an entertainment industry business, are mostly just rank and file employees.
>>33477917
zeta is getting great numbers now, why is kobo such a contrarian?
How do we save HoloEN?
>>33477921Nice blogpost faggot, hope you get some help.
>>33478145anon, they know who the rrat is. They'll probably be asking "who's kuzuha". I'm fairly sure this is the only thread that cares about nijijp
>>33478222KEK
>>33478222>WojakUnironically go back to twitter/discord/reddit
>>33478337EN3 hags
What happened?
>>33478295I saw it before. I think a month ago.Hey, you are the hunter of containment breakers.
>>33478246I believe Gura, Ina, Fauna, Mumei, Bae haven't touched it since S2 finale
>>33478222Based it accurately portray hololive fans
>>33478136She would not have been privy to the financial details of such arrangements anyway. And they would have to be huge deals, like a buyout or a merger, not a promotion which would amount to like .5% of the company's revenue.
>>33478383Niji having a 3d debut next week?
>>33478222A grim reminder that a nijikek seethed hard enough to make this.
>>33478337Mori contract termination
>>33478392Ina played with Calli didn't she?
>Rushia permanently fucked by the yab>mafumafu came out unscathed
>>33478392Fauna hasn't touched it since the second time she played it. Not even sure why you mentioned her because she was never really "in" it to begin with
>>33478353I'm 100% sure that if somebody made a NijiJP thread for new wave debuting, we would have more messages talking about the debuts than that thread
>>33478222LMAO someone took the time to make this, unironically get some help.
>>33478026So what do fujos like about this guy? Got nothing against manchildren but the dude seems unbearable.
>>33478222this guy's based
>>33478145Am I the only one that instantly hides any numberfag discussion outside of here? Like it's almost embaressing to see people numberfagging about golds and shit when noone has a clue wtf they are talking about
>>33478222Not wrong, this is what happens when you forcefully acquire fans instead of building a more inclusive vtubing culture.
>>33478145I mean
>Shalom isn't even in top 10WTF
>>33478337graduate mori, ame and bae
>>33478471no because that how you know the most influential thread is working
>>33476289> stagnated industryexcuse me?most HoloEN fans are complaining about the lack of streams anon, they're STARVING for content because there's no one in EN (that they like) putting in the work to bring them entertaining streams regularly.EN3 debuts will be HUGE when announced.
>Gura gold>Nijisister discord spills their wok all over the chatroom and hysterically scream and shit post with every angleLol, lmao
speaking about males that got away scot free, what happened the sutopuri guy that cheats on her wife? is he back yet?
>>33478575I was wondering when you'd show up.
>>33478531
>>33478145The shit post goes both ways, people bring shitposts from the catalogue and discusses it here too./#/ is unironically the most influential /vt/ thread. Because it is actually a secret unity thread
>>33478497>If you exploit beloved national pasttimes, people will have to tune in and watch
>>33478497Salome proved him right.
>>33478526wow...I really feel bad for nijiJP, they actually have to be grouped up with those EN """"""""""fans""""""""""
>>33478607
>>33478337>Send Kiara to ID; don't recruit any more EUturds>Mori becomes vsinger with no group>Push Kronii to 41%; Myth and Council become 3 person units>Send the males to Twitch, cut off contact>Debut EN3 after new years
>>33478587Indefinite hiatus. Rest of Sutopuri still going strong because it was just that one guy.
>resorts to wojakmonth's not even over yet
>>33478530>shalom...
>>33478575This is your brain on Western brand.Corpo should always panders to the customers, not the other way around. Once a company stopped listening to its customer, you get something like Ubisoft, EA and Hollywood.
>>33478616Salome declined with her shit game choices and her dumb fucking early EN collab. She could've maintained her popularity if she wasn't retarded.
>>33478653
>>33478575I really find it funny when Holostars, Tower, HoloID and even fucking Kronii, who has zero idea about what idol is, exists.
>>33478587not yet iirc? he wasn't in their recent concert
>>33478581Are we seeing the same thread? Because I see more Vshojo posts than Niji ones.
>>33478616I wonder if they'll comment on Salome's decline in the next report. "We know we fucked up and to solve this we're releasing 5 new waves this year! The aggregate will save us!"
>wojaksIs this the best you can do?
>>33478223Eh they're gonna play it in creative mode until whatever arbitrary limit they set on themselves which ends in "ok the server has been fully rebuilt".And well, even before the server fuckup, some Luxiem talents used creative mode to get resources for the stuff they were building (mentioned lack of time to grind as the cause).If you like that kinda thing, feel free to watch I suppose.
>>33478705
>>33478719No one watches vshojo that would post on /vt/ niji sisters have been using their dumb rats because they are effective at baiting.
Just woke up, which one mogged the Shart more? King or risu?
>>33478672>>33478587thanks
>>33478467He makes Nijigirls seethe, which apparently they enjoy.
Holochads? Status?Ez gold?Damn. Hololive Tsuyoi.
why is the qa poster rattled now
>>33478577I was believing this for some time but now seeing Mori, Ame, Kiara, Kronii all putting up a disappointing averages I feel En vtubing has just reclined.You can hope EN3 will somehow revive it but its just hope at this point
>>33478710I always find these misrepresentations funny.
>>33478779Towa
>>33478779king got the highest CCV on a JP channel today, if that counts.
HAHAHAHAHA this wojak artist really pulled out all the stops, keep it up champ
>>33478773
>>33478774Generally I'd agree with you, but this guy >>33478789 is the unironic vshocuck who usually camps every thread on the catalogue to spam any thread talking about vshojo with the wojaks
>>33478818Guess who won gold this early in the month.
>>33478819> (that they like)
>>33478392Fauna wants to revive EN Minecraft arc and save everyone's numbers. But
meat>wojak
>>33478448Anon, Rushia's yab wasn't that she was in relationship with Mafumafu - it's because she was leaking Cover's info to Korekore
>>33478818Actual vshocuck behaviour, just go look up the images in the archive
>>33478845Rape
>>33478840That's a sign that it's the VShojo intern, it's their signature.Huh so the Nazuna yab does have some teeth to it then.
>>33478845
Paul Li you sucks
>>33478819This is fair, I think EN3 debuts will be lower then botted illuna debuts and probably comparable to council numbers. >>33478851Oh well its probably some troon from a vshojo discord who spent hours of their life making strawman images they have nowhere else to post.
>>33478789I always find this funny, despite the misrepresentation.
>>33478448Because mafumafu knew when to shut his mouth
>>33478710
If anyone is ready for a real conversation now that the shitposting is done.Risu and Iofi did amazing. Moona was propped to ridiculous levels by the pekomoon shit, it may stand to reason even if Kobo were to debut in 3d tomorrow she would not get that much.But all 3 had the full benefit of Cover basically saying "ALRIGHT SHUT THE FUCK UP. ITS JP PRIMETIME, YOU'RE ALL WATCHING THIS".I'm excited to see how that goes for future talents (council, ID2, ID3 maybe even Myth again?) but I wish the retarded factor of "First army may or may not shill just 1 of these" wasn't a thing, its hard to compare. Like, I don't think Risu Vs Moona would have been this far apart without all the Moona shilling.
>>33478923council got 80-90k during their debuts, they are not lower than iflops
>>33478907
>>33478923>This is fair, I think EN3 debuts will be lower then botted illuna debuts and probably comparable to council numbers.????????????????????????????????
>>33478830>I always find these misrepresentations funny.Whats funny is that for some weird reason most of the vshojo fans that post here that ive doxxed were fans of loe prior to luxiem or unicorn holos like fauna, gura or irys.
>>33478497dafuq, Nijisanji has the most disloyal fans in the vtuber world
Well hopefully the wojack spam earns them a 3-day vacation at least - such a waste of time
The fact that we have been going through the same retard timeloop for two weeks and it COMPLETELY disappeared the very second the retards got new material and all the messages have changed the topic just shows that there are only just 4 fucking retards without real life spending 14 hours a day shitting up the thread using the brand new bait they get
>>33478973
>>33478880Why is it ok when everyone leaking info to Tamaki but not ok when you spoke to Korekore?
>>33478900Now that you mention it yeah they only come out when a yab has some teeth to them like that interview one.
>>33478839>JP goldnow that's sad
Breaking news: Mikeneko confirmed that Kson and Vshojo scammed her
>>33478863Well you judge an industry not from their biggest but from their smallest/lowest floors.If your floor is decreasing that is not a good sign, you will always have Gura breaking new grounds but she is only 1, rest is not pulling their weight.
>>33479016
>>33478577>most HoloEN fans are complaining about the lack of streams anon,No that's only this retarded board who just wants to insist that all the girls are fucking lazy
>>33479019Has anyone leaked company secrets to tamaki?
>>33479067
>>33478991Sorry but I spam almost 24 hours with only 30 minute nap few time a day.
>>33479075hold on I got one for this
>>33479019because korekore company got in trouble for doxxing a vtuber.whats funny to note is that korekore is also a huge coco anti.
>>33478945Nah, even as a Risu fan the charades segment in the middle of her 3D really stalled the growth. If she had done more singing like Moona I think she could have got 75-80k
>>33479097
>>33479117>korekore is also a huge coco antiWhy though?
>>33479134
>>33479146If i remember correctly he called coco a sinner or something like that. I never knew what the reason was for it.
>Who will win gold Tomorrow?>Triangle gold at 9/20?
>>33478108If you want to see stagnation, you can check pic attached.The audience cap is still growing for EN, but the traffic density doesn't deviate much, which means product variety needs to be expanded.Companies get less dividends when they wait too long to polish their product and its pipeline.Last year, you would be asking for merch, concerts, etc, but saying that there's no investment in EN or ID is simply baffling.
At least meat spam yesterday was vtuber related. Current spammer riled up by ? what exactly I have no idea but spamming western woke shit here is kinda boring.
>>33479118there is zero chance she'll get 80k, 70k ish is as far as I'll give her
>>33479019Because she leak company shit? and she already got a warning before about kore2 and still doing it after that. Beside I can actually imagine tamaki would ask for permission to say something kinda private but not dramanigger kore2
>>33479146dramanigs will always go for any angle that will give them more dramabux.
>>33479179
>>33479061Dont they have the highest floors for an en company?
>>33478945I talked about this yesterday. Kanata was streaming before Iofi's 3D showcase and the chat told her Iofi was starting the stream and she immediately ended the stream bringing up Iofi's stream which basically confirms that they aren't allowed to overlap debuts or 3d debuts and encouraged to shill them, but "normal" 3d lives are just up to each talent so it's up to each member and a non-verbal agreement about not overlaping each other (Nobody wants to get her 3D live overlapped so they won't overlap the other girls)We'll need to wait until Myth do their actual 3D showcases to confirm this
>>33479209how the fuck have none of you guys seen the vshocuck in action before? He literally shows up whenever there's vshojo drama and spams those images because he thinks that only holofags can hate vshojo.
>>33479232
>>33479113Maybe replace fanfun Island with anything else.Anyways, the fuck is up with the vshojo raid. Did # bring up nazuna or did someone bring it in from the catalog? Crazy that it's enough to accelerate the shitposting this much. It has to be a different bunch and not the usual shitposters switching topics
>>33479266I seriously never see this much wojack posting.
>>33479266Proof next thread?
>>33479213She could've get 80k if she invites big holo like Korone or Suisei, but I guess she's only close to fucking Oga
>>33479222In this case it was something personal I remember the old dox site talking about it and theorizing it might have been something that happened between them before she got in hololive. This was years ago so i forgot the reason for it.
>>33479284
So this thing is going to get 1 million views in about 14-15hrs…. do people just pretend to hate lolis but then secretly enjoy it?
>>33479287Because of this >>33465396
>>33479249They actually overlapped Kobo and Kaela debuts.
>>33479287another vshojo yab, it happensSeriously have you guys not seen the threads when that interview thing was going on? It's literally the vshojo defence's force default move once they get tired of going "Nothing to see here"31131627
>>33479331
>>33479372Meant to link to>>31131627
>>33479266I just assumed it was a dedicated falseflag, who the fuck would come to /#/ to shitpost about a completely unrelated issue?
>>33479353Some people hate lolis, some people like them, some people are neutral. I don't particularly like lolis but I do like Gura as a streamer.
>>33476520She didn't trust her fans either. The whole thing happened because she thought they'd all turn on her unless she spoke out immediately. She didn't think any of them loved her, thought she was just taking suckers money. That's the cold hard truth and all her fans shitpost about everything to distract themselves from the betrayal of their feelings.
>>33479353I have to wonder how much Gura spent on this, or if it was one of her wishes
>>33479372Westoid wokeshit is a blight in this world.
>>33479353or maybe they just get curious since it was gura
>>33479249The ID girls flew to Japan to do all that stuff, they're trying to extend a bit more courtesy. Myth aren't obligated the same if they use some studio in NA, it'll be up to whether or not they feel like it.
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/image/W-ealTa7N38ZgpyL-2d_xg/No really, what kind of rock have you guys been living under if this is your first time seeing him?
>>33479372No I really don't see people talking about Vshojo hardly at all. They're pretty good at staying in their thread and keeping their heads down, which is good because they're a very small minority and hated by a lot of people here.
>>33479353She doesn't have 4 million subs just for show you know?
>newest gen of JP and EN can't get 1m sub after (almost) a yearHoloX and Council didn't do as well as they expected.
>>33478900Yea, whenever you see wojak spam, you can tell that VShojo is having another controversial event.
>>33479356>>33479372It's just all so tiresome. This thread barely gives a shit about vshojo. Run damage control in the actual yab thread, holy fuck
>>33479483Whenever there's vshojo drama people talk about them alot though. Not often in this thread but you just need to poke your head in the catalogue whenever nyanners stuck her foot into it again to see the vshocuck in action
>>33479353Gura's fanbase is worldwide and about half of those asian otakus replayed it a few times for the nude scenes.
>>33479365Well, I couldn't remember that. I don't know then, maybe it's just this >>33479455Anyway, we'll have to wait until Myth get their showcases
>>33479204>saying that there's no investment in EN or ID is simply baffling.Anon taking ID for their 3d at last isn't much of an investment.EN having to make their own events and 3d with scraps and fans isn't investment. Cover fucked up their long term strategy because both ID and EN spiraled out of their projected "some streamers geting a few thousand views" branch purposes. And so they never recruited or planned to have any real support for them and are still 2-3 years too slow to facilitate any.
>IRyS whispering truth into the Shark's earWhy didn't IRyS warn Kronii too?
>>33479459Yeah I've seen that sort of stuff occasionally, mostly in the catalog. Not sure what you're worried about tho. Seems they got banned regardless.
>>33479519They think that>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREADunironically
>>33479572yeah because bans mean anything here
>>33479459Wait. Where did you find those? It's been a while since I saw them. Maybe you found them outside /here/.
>>33479497Hololive is far bigger now than before Myrh debuted but that tourist peak might never be reached again. Still they’re doing better than new NijiENs debuting to 70k+ people and then becoming sub 3k shitters in like a month
>>33479497>he says this when people like Mito, Kaede, Shizuka and 90% of nijisanji exists
>>33479613see >>33479526
>>33479526Last few times I remember them being relevant are Silverware's interview, the Nux thing, Ironmouse subathon, Nyanners boyfriend reveal, and very briefly for some of their new model debuts.
>>33479353yep lolicons in denial are a thing that exist they love to use the ''petite'' card, but otherwise Gura has a lot of fans that just think she is cute
>>33479651so basically every vshojo yab that gains traction on this board?
>>33479266Just why this thread when we don't care about vshojo, man. I'm used to it but it's still annoying
>>33479204Anon, how long can you keep releasing same product in the market and expect people to not get bored of it??You cannot keep relying on JP viewerbase, you will have to build the EN base so that it can stand on its own, hence I am saying before releasing new talents like accelerate probably first make sure the resources are there for the new talents to thrive, otherwise they will be another flavor of Myth or Council and relying on their own creativity every single time to stand out.
>>33479548>some streamers geting a few thousand viewsI believe they expected solid 3views or low 4views, not 5views off the bat.
>>33479353Why is the thumbnail of that anime a fucking S'oy-mouth? Fucking retarded.
Gura's VOD just passed Shion's. Probably passing Aqua's in a few more hours.
>>33479459Usually whenever they show up in /#/ they eat a face-full of reports and get their shit deleted pretty quick. Usually.
>>33479237Nope, Kiara has actually fell down to NijiEN levels
>>33479682vshocucks are extremely sensitive and seem to think that they genuinely have a chance to fuck nyanners if they white knight her hard enough on 4chan
>>33479705The fuck are you even talking about?
>>33479743she got 700 floor?
>>33479739good joke, we don't get meidos here
>>33479743no she hasn't
>>33479704Yes yes, we've had this convo before, how none of Myth expected the numbers they did and were expecting a few-thousand viewers at best. >>33479779We don't get them visiting here personally, but people tend to view wojacks here with the same revulsion as UTTER TRASH and DO do their reporting reps, so if someone is on duty to check the reporting queue to take out the garbage, it gets tossed.
>>33479796fucking grim
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*92,264: Gura (Hololive)66,656: Risu (Hololive)31,542: Luca (Nijisanji)14,344: Maria (Nijisanji)10,783: Fauna (Hololive)10,166: Pomu (Nijisanji)7,170: Mysta (Nijisanji)7,153: Kiara (Hololive)7,152: Ike (Nijisanji)6,857: Anya (Hololive)5,861: Kaela (Hololive)5,706: Baelz (Hololive)5,201: Elira (Nijisanji)5,063: Kobo (Hololive)
>>33479796>Aia becoming a 3view 2 months after their big debutDamn
>>33476212Those fat fucks aren't even oncall during work hours, fuck off with that shit.
https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1571524050027155457?s=46&t=nktv-O81kUAZstmC_KYPtw>Slowly turning into Pekora 2.0Heh, I wonder what’s next
>YOU'RE IN THE NUMBERS THREAD AND THIS CHICKEN VOICED PHOENIX GIRL SLAP YOU IN THE ASS AND TELL YOU TO FIX HER NUMBERSWHAT DO YOU DO, NUMBERFAGS!?>Hard mode: no changing her voice
>>33478945I mean, just putting the 3D lives from the last 3 months in order of CCV is enough to tell you that regardless of timeslot or anything, both Gura and the IDs were incredibly competitive with mainline JP 3D Live numbers.pls ignore the outlier at the end
>>33479881Play Doom
>>33479777>>33479796I mean her average, but I am talking in relative terms.Kiara vs Kiara floor last quarter to thisWhen I say EN vtubing floors are reclining I mean HoloEN, I don't care about the Niji
How fast did Salome's first short reach 1M( I know YT shorts are far easier to loop).
>>33479865>31,542: Luca (Nijisanji)of all days you choose yesterday.
>>33479865risu just 10 more grim
>>33479881Changing her personality.
>>33479878Will she buy a monkey too?
>>33479908If you're not a nijinigger then why do you post like a nijinigger?
>>33479865the day NijiEN finally does something the shark holds the door
>>33479881Work on personality to be less condescending and stop blaming others for every little things
>>33479881Stream in NA timeslotJump on every FOTMForcefully play horror kusoge especially.Never, ever, ever again touch a debuff game, especially something like Tunic
>>33479902What the fuck is that comma system
>>33479908>When I say EN vtubing floors are reclining I mean HoloEN, I don't care about the Niji>Posts like an ESL Nijifag
>>33479908>I mean her average?
>>33479865>SEPTEMBER 2022 GAIJIN GOLDS1) Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 - Rust2) Kobo (Hololive) - 31,359 - Valorant collab w/ Milyhya and others3) Noir (Holostars) - 14,791 - Boomer vs Zoomer collab w/ Baelz4) Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 - Gura's Big Brain Games w/ 5 HoloEN and 1 HoloID5) Vox (Nijisanji) - 25,137 - Unarchived karaoke6) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 - Plants vs Zombies7) Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 - Holocure8) Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 - Unarchived karaoke9) Reine (Hololive) - 12,359 - Birthday VRChat Live10) Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 - Rust11) Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 - Gura's Big Brain Games w/ 5 HoloEN and 1 HoloID12) Linglan (The Box) - 16,575 - Monetization celebration with karaoke13) Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 - Myth 2nd year anniversary w/ Myth14) Gura (Hololive) - 23,664 - 2nd year anniversary15) Gura (Hololive) - 38,413 - Unarchived karaoke and announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Iofi (Hololive) - 52,809 - 3D showcase18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live>GOLD PER COMPANYCover - 16Anycolor - 1The Box - 1>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)35: Gura14: Baelz13: Amelia8: Kobo, Linglan7: IRyS6: Ina, Mumei, Mysta, Vox5: Iofi, Kiara, Moona, Noir, Reine3: Alban, Enna, Fauna, Petra, Regis, Shu, Yugo, Risu1: Calliope, Luca, Magni, Kuzuha
>>33479949
>>33479353>do people just pretend to hate lolis but then secretly enjoy it?yes
>>33479908>talk about floor>bring up averagesalso>>33479973
>>33479973>The lowest Homo is above half of NijiEN
>>33480006
>>33479947Bruh, have you not seen Kiara numbers lately, even if her floor is above any other en company it is still not a great situation if you want to see if there is a big demand for 5 more EN talents.How do you justify that without looking at streaming numbers
>>33480000>Anycolor - 1>The Box - 1When will NijiEN break the deadlock against The Box?
>>33479881go shameless mode and force pekora to play rust and become her side kick.join every collab event that has a 1st army in it.
>>33479881Stop playing debuff shit, stop streaming at shit hours (no need to stream during NA primetime, but stick to 20 CET, she usually starts her stream too early and by the time she reaches EU primetime she's doing SCs reading and nobody wants to watch that besides KFP), keep pushing for collabs with other EN members and have sex with me
>>33479973Uhhh, Mori?
>>33479973>12 out of 26 nijiENs are below the lowest starENwhy do we pretend nijisanji is popular again?
>>33480078her average looks fine to me>>33479973
>>33479353Let's talk about lolis like we talk about vtubers.Lolis have the "cute little girl" buff. EVERYONE likes cute little girls. A massively smaller part of the population wants to fuck them.Now, you may think "oh but Gura was like, totally naked here, that's lolicon pandering". Sure, but its not really anything egregious. Most of the video is cute gura lore.
o-oh...
>>33479865>>33480000
>>33479973>the Kiara line will keep half of Luxiem behind her this month>but Mori dropped so much it's now her linegoddamn cringe reaper
>>33479908Guras floor has been only rising since early 2021
>>33480078nijiseethe
>>33480018Chinman, I KNEEL
>>33479743>Nope, Kiara has actually fell down to NijiEN levelsNo she didn't>>33479908>When I say EN vtubing floors are reclining I mean HoloEN, I don't care about the NijiYou literally wrote "NijiEN levels".Kiara is not even the lowest ranked HoloEN by average in September so far, that would be Calli.Not only Kiara is not "down to NijiEN levels", no NijiEN girl outranks her by that metric, and she even outranks Ike
>>33479973ouch
>>33479973>3view averagesAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>33479973>Debuff Detective mogs all NijiEn sans Vox/MystaFUCKING GRIM I TELL YA
>>33479973Can you read when I am saying compare Kiara numbers to herself, I don't care about how Holo is performing vs Niji.Can you confidently say that EN viewerbase is begging for more talents now vs when we had Council debut???
>>33479973Damn, what happened to the dark fat tits bitch? I thought she was supposed to be popular...
>>33477098I never joined in the kanata hate before but fuck this bitch, holy shit.
>>33479902> only 5k difference between Moona and Gurajesus, it was closer than I thought
>>33480201Pretty funny remembering that she was second behind Gura in CCV after debut and was only behind Mori in subs because of her music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUTRKL_46m4what the fuck
>>33479881Change her mindsetThe “I can do whatever I like” mindset that is engraved into EN brain need to go and replaced by “I will do what my audience like”. Just that alone would improve everything drastically
>>33480162I'm no jap speaker, isn't Aia's name a pun on on how japs say APOLOGIZE? That's pretty funny
>>33480227>Can you read when I am saying compare Kiara numbers to herselfsays that>Nope, Kiara has actually fell down to NijiEN levels >>33479743Anon do you by chance have brain damage?
>>33480227>NOOOOOOOOOO DON'T COMPARE THEM TO NIJI YOU'RE RUINING MY NARRATIVE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>33480235The entirety of NijiEN’s new gen are sub-2.5k shatters
>>33480255WTF OBAA-CHAN?!
>>33480227>Can you read when I am saying compare Kiara numbers to herselfYou literally compared her to nijien levels earlier anon.
>>33479973worth noting that this is from the 14th, since then she's had a 5 hours 6k+ GTA stream so her average is actually higheralso, DO U meme karaoke tonight, so expect another small increase
>>33477098What even is the point? Maybe they want to filter the pigeons? But that hasn’t been a thing since season 2
>>33480254Self debuff with the potential for a reversal whenever she wants. She can go back to be #2 by collabing with gura as much as SNOT and spamming MC and FotM.
So mori fell down to nijisanji en levels then. That not better holotrash your second most sub member ccv is getitng mogged by nijisanji en.
>>33480255HOLLY FUCKING BASED
alright /#/, iphone or android
>>33480152Ok I take that back comparing her to Nijibut don't you agree with this >>33479061Holo base does feel that it is either saturated or stagnated because a lot of talents are not performing upto a level for you to say EN is booming
>>33480414Android
I was checkin' out the streamConcentrating on counting rightI heard a dark voice beside of meAnd I looked round in a state of frightI saw four faces, one chadA brother from the numbersThey looked me up and down a bitAnd posted some GumbasI sayI don't like cunny, oh noI love itI don't like cunny, no noI love it
>>33480227NIJINIGGER DESTROYED BY FACTS AND LOGICYOU LOVE TO SEE IT
>>33480384kek, that goalpost moving
Everyone is bored huh.
>>33480384>So mori fell down to nijisanji en levels thennot even since she's performing better than 70% of nijienshe fell down to luxiem level though
>>33480414Blackberry
>>33480255How did this pass youtubes AI?
>>33480384>That not better holotrashAnon, please take a moment and reform your thoughts into more legible English. You are trash, much worse than Mori on her worst day.
>>33480441>but don't you agre-I don't care about whatever you are saying, just fixing your clear mistake
>>33480365Nah she’s filtered enough people at this point. I do think she can get #3 though
>>33480384>So mori fell down to nijisanji en levels thenFell down to Luxiem levels by the looks of it and thats the other companies top performing group.
>>33480494No she's below Luxiem level. She's top StarsEN level
>>33480255HOLY SHIT MY KNEES ARE REACHING THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
>>33480489Only worthy thing is splatoon 3 with hags and me love some hags, splatoon is not my cup of tea.
Enna 4k
>>33480255TOP FUCKING KEK>you now realize she's in the top 5 of the highest ranked youtube indies, and DOUBLES kson average and median
>>33480441>a lot of talents are not performing up to a levelwhat level of comparison would that be?
>>33480601cuck
>>33479973Pippa should be included in this now just to use her as a benchmark
>>33480494Keep moving the goalpost holotrash. Your little en is getting beat by luxiem. This is victory for niji en. She has 2 million subs and were still the winner. First mori than gura. This proves were catching up to you guys one member at a time.
>>33480384Good. Mori deserves to suffer.
>>33480227Are you mentally ill or challenged?
>>33480255lol
>>33480602I fucking kneel
>>33480414Android, unless you cannot, for some reason, understand how to operate an android phone in which case apple.
>>33480632pippa isn't included on either vstats or vrabi so we have to pull her numbers from playboard which are pretty shit
>>33480364Kanata told in holo discord that her membership increased by 13% when streaming mengen rust.
>>33480636So mori is performing better than 70% of nijien even with their hot new debuts?Fucking grim
>>33480636see >>33480081Your livers even struggle to break the deadlock against The Box.
>>33480636Honey this isn't May anymore. Luxiem is lucky to get 10k on a buff stream nowadays.
>>33480702The hellAndroid is piss easy to use, unless you want to go root or some tinkering shit ....
>>33480255She's living 40 years ago. Nazi is still ok at that time.
>>33480441EN has boomed a while ago, yes and you can't keep booming foreverthis is reflected in far lower ceilings and slowling (or halting altogether) sub growth, however the floors are stable or increasingKiara has had a 2k-3k floor since the very beginning and it's absolutely not shrinkingher Tunic streams are doing just as well as her Ryza streams did all the way back thenhowever, a new Gen absolutely can bring back all the casuals that inflated Myth's ceilings in 2021 if they can get even just one Kobo-tier hit
>>33474613Holy recline. How did they even not get 100k on this?
>>33480227jesus christ what a retard
This means no more braging that holo en is untouchably cause a year ago having a niji beat a holo was unthinkable. But we fought day after day and took down an hololive member. We won after being made fun after year we out place a holo member. This means your little holo en is not as strong as you think.
>>33480725If PekoMiko do this too then it’s over
>>33480414iPhone. Androids are for poorfags and IDs. I don't associate with people with green chat boxes.
>>33476851did the pigeoning really get THAT bad on the JP side?
>>33480414Symbian OS
>>33480747I know. There are however, in the year 2022, some people who for some godawful reason cannot into android.
>>33480792>>33480636>>33480384here you might need this
>>33479973Deadbeats, explain this
How many times King btfoed by indog?
>>33480797is pekomiko cover's trump card
>>33480607On a risk of sounding like a Nijifag but since you asked:Mori's songs underperformingIrys growth stagnatedNone of the Council talent has reached 1 mil subsMyth anniversary stream underperformedMany examples and I know there are other factors for these things to happen but it still happened what makes you think the solution is 5 more talents without proper support
>>33480812unironically yes worse than en.its the same plague that haunted the eceleb server.
>>33480602still doesn't make as much money as kson, proving that ccv is a useless metric for popularity
run faster salomethe tide is coming for you
they are going to go on about pre and post luxiem forever aren't they.....
>>33480828>Live a Live spamI'm not a deadbeat and even I know why her numbers are in the shitter as of late.
>>33480857>Many examplesName them, fag
>>33480866Reclining whore can't even break 10k anymore. All she has are dead ID subs.
>>33476931> Holo v Hololike clockwork
>>33480898the nijinigger fears the indochad
Is graph anon here? Have StarJP average's increased by any significant amount after StarEN?
>>33480747Speaking from experience Android, is clunky as fuck, and there are WAYYY too many unnecessary random applications in the background that just clog up the storageAll of the iPhone I have used feel much smoother with minimal lags while I ran into lag in android phone all the time. Customization is a meme. But I admit the apk system is quite convenient, only for when I want to play gacha on JP server though