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33457479 No.33457479 [Reply] [Original]

why do holos always lie about stuff like this? Just say you don't feel like streaming. These random illnesses are just funny at this point

>> No.33457553 [DELETED] 

she cant just say she deepthroated her bfs cock all night and now she cant talk anon chama

>> No.33457560

If you're working and want to take a break, what is your excuse?

>> No.33457576

>>33457553
yeah sorry but that guys, I'll try not to go so hard next time

>> No.33457587

>>33457553
yeah mine

>> No.33457616

What makes you think she's lying?

>> No.33457654

>>33457560
>If you're working and want to take a break, what is your excuse?
They hired and extended their contract with Ina with the understanding she has art commission jobs she needs to at her own pace so why the fuck does she need to lie about it? Just keep the nature of the job vague.

>> No.33457665

>>33457576
>>33457587
yeah, these guys

>> No.33457686

The funniest one was Axel, who literally went
>tummy hort, so I will delayy stream that overlaps with gura by exactly 1 hour, because i have a crystal ball that tells me my tummy will stop horting after exactly 1 hour :^)
It should be illegal to lie this blatantly. Disrespectful cunt

>> No.33457723

>>33457479
What's the matter, mad they're not collabing with Tempiss?

>> No.33457781
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33457781

>>33457723
>brings up males out of the blue
rent free now and forever.

>> No.33457787

>>33457616
because people literally don't get "sick" like this every few weeks. And this happens with every single holo. Unless they specifically look for people with weird health issues the girls are lying. I don't understand why they can't just say "too lazy will stream tomorrow"

>> No.33457949

>>33457616
Did you know that she was completely drunk at a party in late June? There's a reason why she tweeted about "vitamin D" that day.

>> No.33457992

>>33457787
Anon, I hate to say this to you but

They are all modern urban woman, these people get sick easily

>> No.33458012

>>33457479
>why do women lie?
Why does grass grow? Why is water wet?

>> No.33458060

>>33457553
why do you have cock on your mind 24/7?

>> No.33458066

>>33457479
>why is asian woman living alone that never leaves her house and has shitty sleeping schedule is always sick?
hmm I wonder

>> No.33458105

>>33457479
OP is always a faggot but I actually agree with this statement
just be honest and say that you don't feel like streaming, take a break and come back when you feel ready, "my tummy hurt" and those bs are just tiresome, nobody wants to hear that, fans are not that stupid

>> No.33458112

>>33457787
Ina is a malnourished weirdo who never sees the sun, every dust particle she breathes has a chance to kill her.

>> No.33458156

she could just do a silent drawing stream, people would love that. like she could write on the screen to say simple things which would've been cute

fuck what is wrong with these girls it's like they hate streaming

>> No.33458220

>>33457723
They are literally in discord with tempiss at all times

>> No.33458292

>>33458105
>fans are not that stupid
that's where you're wrong

>> No.33458416

>>33458156
>it's like they hate streaming
You finally figured it out.

>> No.33458687

>>33457479
Try it yourself then; streaming while staying on characters, doing your irl jobs, singing, and dancing along with practices outside of that. With that hectic schedule, being exhausted and catching a cold is something that should be expected

>> No.33458803

>>33458687
Heavy machinery mechanics still works even when sick, or -30c, raining etc.

Pathetic

>> No.33458833

>>33457479
She hates her fans

>> No.33459143

>>33458066
Don't forget that she sleeps on the floor

>> No.33459807

>>33457787
bro
they're not like us
they really do overwork themselves, eat like shit and follow their favorite pasttimes instead of sleep and rest.

the boys on the other hand are like us
stay up late doing stupid shit

>> No.33459965

Please understand, holo idols can't openly talk about getting railed by their bf's.

>> No.33460038

>>33457787
>he doesn't know

>> No.33460041

>>33458803
Good, hopefully you die soon as well.

>> No.33460267

myth still think they're in 2020 when they were untouchable and had little competition. by the time they realize where they now stand it will be too late to do anything

>> No.33460276

>>33458156
typically you rest when you're sick
the talents are lucky the japs respect that.

>> No.33460290

>>33458105
>fans are not that stupid
anon anyone that is 3view at least could come up with different excuses every 2 weeks and most people will believe it

>> No.33460350

>>33457787
Watame never gets sick.

>> No.33460371

>>33460267
>where they now stand
you mean among the top of all vtubers?
you mean among the 0.0001 of streamers?
they don't just survive off this, they're earning a good living

>> No.33460375

I'd rather hear them lie about being sick than have to fucking hear another "I'm moving to a new place" for the fifth fucking time.

>> No.33460746

>>33460371
sure, all of that is true. it's also true that most of them treat vtubing as a sidegig and their audience is dwindling as a consequence of that. while their complacency isn't the only reason they're reclining, it's still a big part of it

>> No.33461031

>>33458687
Holo's don't make enough money to not have IRL jobs?

>> No.33461242

>>33458105
Chumkeks exists.

>> No.33461326

>>33457479
Gura will use every excuse available to her before she finally ever admits she just doesn't feel like streaming or is feeling too lazy. It works for them though since the majority will eat up whatever lies and excuses they come up with and they can feel good about maintaining their image.

>> No.33461339

>>33461031
Ina is still a fully-fledged professional artist first and foremost. Idk what name she went by but Im sure she is still accepting commisions from clients.

>> No.33461416

>>33458687
Most of them don't do "irl jobs" . This post wasn't specifically about Ina, but Holos in general. Also even if you wanna defend Ina on this, she's a fucking artist not a coal miner

>> No.33461438

>>33457553
I can confirm this. I was the throat.

>> No.33461453
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33461453

>>33461326
Meanwhile the based homos

>> No.33461468

It's Ina, if after 2 years you don't know that she's just doing the bare minimum, I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.33461475

>>33461438
I can confirm this confirm, I am the night

>> No.33461717

>>33461416
Artists have deadlines and neets perform poorly with deadlines

>> No.33461768

>>33461416
Funny thing is both of these things are known for working to death

>> No.33461772

>>33457787
I get sick at least once every month and I don't even go outside

>> No.33461876

>>33457787
Chances are half of them are talking their voice out semi-regularly, destroying their vocal chords because they're untrained.
May I remind you of the countless instances where holos have changed their voice fir health reasons?
This job is a lot more talking than you think, performing like that for hours does put a strain on your voice.

Add to that being a complete fucking wreck like Ina and you know everything.

>> No.33462126

>>33459807
>they really do overwork themselves

>> No.33462154

>>33461772
You probably live in eternal darkness

>> No.33462160

>>33458156
even better she could eat a pint of ice cream beforehand and put a mic near her ass so that all you hear is her drawing, farting, and grunting

>> No.33462379

>>33457479
they should allow themselves to be researched. something is seriously wrong with all of them considering how often they get sick. it is not normal to get sick multiple times a month for years upon end lol.

>> No.33462402

>>33457787
Since no one has said it yet, they're on their period and don't want to say it.

>> No.33462466

>>33462126
HoloEN surely isnt

>> No.33462490

>>33457787
>Unless they specifically look for people with weird health issues
Or how about, the people most likely to become Vchubaas are sickly, stay at home types? It's a job that doesn't require a lot of physical activity, it takes place in a comfy zone, and you can pretty much do anything you want as long as it pulls viewers - that's why people don't like Vchus in the first place, it's considered low effort and easy.

>> No.33462528

>>33457479
that's better then normally skipping days without warning, imagine it becomes normal thing to do

>> No.33462542

>>33462402
the rest of the world's women work on their period. It's cramping, not the a pulmonary embolism

>> No.33462957

>>33462490
Most of the JP girls work out once a week plus weekly dance and singing practice.
That's in addition to recordings and regular streaming.

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>>33457479
because it's not just holos, all streamers do this
>>33462542
and if they could choose to, they wouldn't. but streamers get to choose their hours

>> No.33463291

>>33457686
and how is it disrespectful to you? you don't even watch him so why're you so butthurt?

>> No.33463565

>>33460041
>y-you are making sense so i hope you die
pathetic

>> No.33463624
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33463624

>>33461876
>This job is a lot more talking than you think, performing like that for hours does put a strain on your voice.
It really doesn't, unless you're singing or making a really unnatural voice. I'm a school teacher, I talk in front of people for hours 5 days a week for a living, have been doing it for 5+ years at this point, and I haven't had any voice issues so far. Ditto for most of my colleagues who have been doing this for way longer than I have.

>> No.33463652

You haven't got sick before OP? You act like getting sick is some sort of conspiracy to not work.

>> No.33463669

its funny how no one wants to bring up the V word

>> No.33463713

>>33461475
I can confirm this confirmation of the first confirm, I was the cock

>> No.33463748

>>33463713
can confirm this, I was the cum. Currently working my way through Ina's small intestines.

>> No.33463804

>>33463624
Teacherchad i kneel

>> No.33463821

>>33457560
I have a real job where taking a day off for no reason would fuck me over.

>> No.33463883

>>33463193
>all EN streamers

>> No.33463955

>>33460375
LMAO. So true, every internet personality I follow has supposedly moved more in a couple years than I have in 20. Just say you're on vacation ffs.

>> No.33463969

>>33463748
Can confirm I am jesus

>> No.33464017
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33464017

>>33463883
True, JP streamers prefer the "I'm moving for several months" excuse or the "throat hort sorry gotta take a month long break to rest it" excuse

>> No.33464100
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33464100

>>33463883
>let me just casually take a few months off again

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33464265

>>33457787
Unironically it's the jab
They didn't get sick this often before it, even during the pandemic before it was available

>> No.33464268

>>33464017
She lived in basically a dumpster before the move
>>33464100
1½ months on doctors orders to rest her throat

Not sure if trolling or actually believes that the EN muh tummy folks measure up to JP.

>> No.33464336

>>33464268
So? That means she has less shit to move. Normal people can do this in a day or two anon.

>> No.33464355

>>33464100
Suisei has been in 20 or so concerts this year, unlike other Holos, you can actually see the results of her offstream activites.

>> No.33464382

>>33457553
>her bf
Yeah me

>> No.33464574

>>33464336
2 weeks is reasonable when you don't know how to negotiate and are trying to set up a proper streaming environment.

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33464662

>>33457787
>because people literally don't get "sick" like this every few weeks.
>And this happens with every single holo.

>> No.33464721

>>33458687
Nigger real life isnt anime. You don't get sick and bedridden just from a little overtime lmao

>> No.33464937

>>33463821
get a better job lol

>> No.33465164

>>33464937
Brainless places like Twitter and LinkedIn isn't for everyone.

>> No.33465190

>>33457479
smol sickly streamer, ples andastan

>> No.33465362

>>33464721
But it's still undeniable that streaming with "characters" is quite taking.

>> No.33465648

I'm sick 24/7. I'm sick of this society we live in that treats us like crap.

>> No.33465854

>>33457479
I'm starting to think that Omega doesn't exist irl, but that it's actually Ina using "her" skin and now she and Mori are leading the guys. She went on a month and a half holiday and when she came back, Tempus debuted soon after. Since then Ina has been streaming much less often...

>> No.33466113

>>33457479
How do you suddenly lose your voice? Never happened to anyone I know with a cold

>> No.33466162

>>33466113
You've never heard someone get guttural or a scratchy voice?
It's literally like the main symptom of a cold. It doesn't matter for normal people because their voices don't matter, but it matters for someone who's entire job depends on it. Plus talking with an inflamed throat could cause longer term damage so they want to avoid it.

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33466470

>>33465362
She's barely done anything this week

>> No.33466520

>>33466470
You have to think about all the hard work they put in behind the scenes too anon. Why do you hate Ina so much. Don't you understand how much prep work goes into a splatoon stream?

>> No.33467242

>>33466520
cute punchline

>> No.33467314

>>33463291
I'm not sure if you're esl or just retarded but the post you responded to was an ironic jest in favor of Axel. Take a breath, fag.

>> No.33467494

>>33457479
First chuuba to take a month off for chemo when?

>> No.33469634

>>33457479
Random sicknesses during autumn are pretty common in the civilized world. Imagine being from a country that is so poor they can only afford a dry and wet season, kek.

>> No.33470624

>>33469634
Only for those with pisspoor genes or those who never see sunlight.

>> No.33474244

>>33464721
Not defending any bullshit inside this thread, just saying as someone who has been working on the family laboratory for over 7 years now, at this point I met so many shitters that are permanent sick and don't give a fuck about it and just keep going to do their thing, that it became amusing. Most of them also eat pills like trying to kill themselves.

And the worst are the people that are precisely the kind of "I don't feel bad" while urinating blood or having the sugar level of an M&M. And then there is people like Ina who you can't even get the veins to show up because their body is too gone to work like it should.

You know, real life has a different kind of drama from anime, instead of bedridden is just the closest people of the characters crying over their death lol.

>> No.33474337

>>33457479
>Cold symptoms > dysphonia > aphonia
What's so difficult to believe about a viral laryngitis at this time of the year anon?

>> No.33474477

>>33457479
>lives alone
>spends all day at home
>still gets sick
sus

>> No.33474480

>>33457560
I just pretend I'm on a field call all day and don't go back to the office until the day is over.

>> No.33474656

>>33474244
Exactly, it's not work, it's their own habits which are at fault.
So they have no one but themselves to blame.

>> No.33474728

>>33474477
"Sick" as in malnutrition and lack of sunlight, and physical activity.

>> No.33474812
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33474812

>>33457560
Depression with suicidal thoughts
I'm already 2 months off work
I'm also a nakirigumi btw lmao

>> No.33475081

>>33457560
Pregnant and then an abortion after 10 months
t. Californyan

>> No.33475087

>>33457787
It's funny how people defend the level of sickness these people experience by how stay-at-home they are when I am far worse than they have ever been and older and have never had this issue. I get sick so rarely I'm always shocked the once every few years it happens. Am I generally miserable every day? Sure. But getting sick enough to not be able to do stuff. Pretty much never.

>> No.33475157

>>33475087
Are you an alcoholic? This kills everything that gets you sick in my experience

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33475215

>>33457787
That implies you let yourself get better.

>> No.33475234

>>33458156
I tuned in to her anniversary stream for a few minutes and apparently she doesn't draw anymore and has hated it for months. I was surprised but I used to like her drawing streams. It's also worth noting when they take all these long breaks, someone like Fauna or Pekora didn't abandon their channels when they took breaks and still put out regular shorts. Kiara often did this too. The idea that a break means not doing anything to make up for it is bizarre and shows they don't take any of their commitments seriously at all.

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33475401

I'm a NEET. I go outside like once every 3 weeks. Sometimes I go a week without taking a shower. I sit at my computer desk all day and eat junkfood and other shit full of sodium. While I'm (somehow) not fat my body is still clearly unhealthy, and i've even taken 2 covid shots and that booster. Yet I don't ever get sick and I haven't had a bad illness in over 2 years or so.

I believe these girls are clearly stretching the truth, and no amount of "They are vtubers and spend all day inside, they never excercise or eat healthily! Of course they will get sick often" will convince otherwise. And for the record I don't even care if they lie about it, I would do the same because it's easier. Especially if you have fans that believe every word you say.

>> No.33475504

>>33474728
she's getting plenty of "nutrition" ;)

>> No.33475597

>>33475081
>10 months
isn't that...murder?

>> No.33475665

>>33457787
>because people literally don't get "sick" like this every few weeks
Well, not before they started sticking experimental mRNA + lipid nanoparticles shit in people on amassive scale, that is.

>> No.33475723

>>33461772
Vitamin D deficiency is a real thing

>> No.33475785

>>33462542
>the rest of the world's women work on their period
Oh you have NO idea how entitled women are these days

>> No.33475864

>>33474656
And geez, vtubers always talk so much about their habits that is no wonder why they always feel down
>Get fuck any sleep and still work on their shit.
>In front of a computer screen a lot of time, damaging the eyes and tiring the mental.
>Eating the quickest food, usually thrash.

And that on top of:
>Constant stress and nagging from projects and management if you are corpo/social media and fans if you are indie that cares.
>Barely any sunlight and exercise, most of them.
>Probably having a precondition already, like Kiara and IronMouse. Remember, after all most of them are nerds.
>Weaker body overall because genetics didn't give a fuck for all born after the 90'

>> No.33475872

>>33475597
In Nyanyaland it's awright ;-)

>> No.33476012

>>33475864
>Eating the quickest food, usually thrash.
Or like Aqua, downing more caffeine than her body weight while skipping sleep for the grind to almost get a heart attack.

>> No.33476362

It's usually the young ones with no work ethic. The hags unironically stream more.

>> No.33476508 [DELETED] 

>>33457479
Lol. She's just like me frfr

So wild that most of these girls just view hololive as their annoying job

>> No.33476800

>>33475401
Are you sure you don't have depression? Because that sounds like me when I had depression. You just don't notice how your body deteriorates.

I do agree that the EN girls are stretching the truth though. Probably because they've grown so used to the silver spoon.

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>>33475401
>Sometimes I go a week without taking a shower.
That's gross dawg

>> No.33477408

>>33475864
1. Seriously get better sleep. Work on figuring out why you can't lay down to go to bed and fall asleep pretty quickly. There are many strategies to helping this and it can be something as simple as removing the TV from the room to keep you from just staying up and staring at a bright screen to as complicated as getting methods to work and combat an overactive brain when you're not busy.
2. There are options that have existed for a long time for people to use that help with eye-strain which is the major killer of people who work in front of computers all the time, they just refuse to look into it.
3. Again, it's a personal choice thing. There's no way we can stop them from eating like shit or getting healthy, balanced meals (other than to jokingly give them shit in chat about it). This is on them and is their fault in the end.
4. All work has issues with nagging seniors/bosses. This job is not unique in that. I will say that they do have to deal with self promotion and PR a lot which is an entirely different set of skills you need to build.
5. Again, fixable only by themselves and I won't feel bad for someone who brings misery on themselves and refuses to fix a problem they create.
6. This is arguable. Kiara has talked about solutions in chat before and how she went to physical therapy. The thing she refuses to do on her doctors request is to go to a psychologist, even though multiple doctors have said it may have more to do with mentally than physically. She just laughs and says "Too expensive" and that she doesn't think it'll help (which is retarded). I stopped caring about her whining about her condition after she repeatedly talked shit about how 'It won't help anyways'. Can't comment on others much because I don't know the situation in depth like I do Wawa.
7. No clue how true this is, but I wouldn't be surprised if all the weird chemicals and shit they put into food and drinks, as well as packaging did do a little to fuck up the general populous the world over.

>> No.33477513

>>33476800
>You just don't notice how your body deteriorates.
Like I said I know i'm an unhealthy turd and I can feel my body degrading. But I know for sure I don't get the illnesses these vtubers claim they do. The only one I can understand is when they say they have a sore throat - because it makes sense for your throat to hurt if you're constantly talking for hours, singing or acting out a particular voice for your job.

>> No.33477621

>>33474244
>just completely change your life and habits without any issue just because someone told you to do it
okay bro.

>> No.33477724

>>33477621
Bud, no one says you have to do all of it overnight. Work on it bit by bit you dipshit. Nothing will change if you don't take any steps at all and most doctors who are dealing with patients that have multiple step recoveries are not going to lambast you because you had a small slip. They will get pissed if you show you're not putting any effort in at all to follow a regiment though.

>> No.33477858

>>33477408
>Again, fixable only by themselves and I won't feel bad for someone who brings misery on themselves and refuses to fix a problem they create.

This is mood.

>>33477621
Isn't that what the alive ones do after surviving a heart attack? or change "heart attack" with any life threatening situation, like getting overdosed.

Jokes aside, "just completely change your life and habits without any issue just because someone told you to do it" is the whole ass point of getting healthy.

>> No.33478185

>>33458012
Water isn't wet, it only causes other things to become wet

>> No.33478195

>>33457781
>muh rent free
Says the discordtroon that has this image to spam at a moment's notice lmao

>> No.33478297

>>33476362
Maybe there's some truth to this
>>33475864
>>Weaker body overall because genetics didn't give a fuck for all born after the 90'

>> No.33478509

>>33457787
There are over 60 hololive chuubas at this point. Maybe a few years ago it would've been weird, but you get a roster of that many people and it's going to be pretty fucking inevitable that sick days happen fairly frequently.

>> No.33478583

>>33477408
>weird chemicals and shit they put into food and drinks, as well as packaging did do a little to fuck up the general populous the world over.
Now that you mention it. This "green diet" fad is quite popular among women. Especially so among the younger ones.

>> No.33478817

>>33477513
But are you a woman? Women have weaker bodies overall, to the point that a fat slob of a middle-aged man can outperform a young woman who train regularly.

>> No.33479000

>>33465164
The brainless one is the person working at a shit job where they can’t even take a break, not the person who gets to sit at home and jiggle their mouse and answer a few emails every day.

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33479039

>>33458687
Stands in your path

>> No.33479052

>>33457787
>And this happens with every single holo
I see you are that kind trash

>> No.33479150

>>33479039
She already took a few breaks though? Let me guess you are of those faggots that doesn't actually watch streams and just comes here to shitposts

>> No.33479176

>>33479150
pretty much yeah lol

>> No.33479465

>>33479150
>She already took a few breaks though?
It would be disingenuous to treat her breaks or watame's breaks like the breaks from other holos

>> No.33479558

>>33461772
>and I don't even go outside
That's not how you spell "because I don't go outside", anon.

>> No.33479737

>>33457560
Migraine

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33479838

Posting twitter screencaps should be a bannable offense.

>> No.33479842

>>33457479
Have you ever had a job? (I'll wait 5 minutes for your incel screed about how steaming isn't a job to conclude).
It doesn't matter if your illness is plausible or not--the point is it's considered disrespectful to your employer to just say "I don't feel like coming in today."
To be socially acceptable, you have to at least claim to have some kind of illness. Doesn't matter if it's valid or believable.

>> No.33479937

>>33479039
>>33479465
This is so dumb. Back in 2020 I remember people praising Pekora for streaming while being sick and some Ichimi worried a about Marine's health. Now look at 2022 Pekora and Marine streamed everyday even while being sick and busy and their reward was permanent damage to their vocal cords. In Marine's case not even surgery can help her. Pekora's case is less severe but now needs regular break days otherwise her voice starts deteriorating again. Watame doesn't strain her voice too much and her manager forces her to take breaks so she should be ok. But MayoDog is loud and is going to end screwing her voice.

>> No.33480024

>>33479937
its called passion

>> No.33480256

>>33479937
Maybe the era of straining the ever-living fuck out of your vocal cords by doing a goofy ass voice for 4-8 hours a day is over!
Who am I kidding, some of these girls do so well because of their goofy characters. There's no way they'd take a chance on losing a bunch of viewers because they drop their signature voice.

>> No.33480269

>>33475864
Can someone seriously save these girls?
They're forming terrible habits and lifestyles and it's no wonder they have episodes. People shouldn't be living like this 24/7. They should be taking real sabbaticals as well.
I'm a student again so I relate to what they're going through. Locked in an ivory tower doing research and I get my fun from watching other people play games lmao.

>> No.33480426

>>33479842
I haven't called sick into my job in about 4 years, which was probably the last time I was legitimately sick. If I don't "feel like" coming into work, I'll say I'm using some vacation time for personal matters.

>> No.33480451

For a job that doesn't require them to leave their bedrooms they sure seem to get sick a lot. Weak and sickly Holos

>> No.33480790

>>33480269
That's why Yagoo brought them in under his wing. At least now they have managers who try to set them straight most of the time.

>> No.33480905

>>33480451
That's why they get sick.
As an extreme example, the black plague wasn't as severe as it was because of the virus. It was that bad because most of the populace suffered from severe malnutrition and had poor living conditions.

>> No.33480950

>>33475401
i'm the exact same, although i work remotely with insane overtime hours so i barely sleep at all to top it off. haven't had a sick day in 3 years lol. if they're not lying something is SERIOUSLY wrong with their bodies.

>> No.33480974

I've been wanting to call in sick every single day for the past 2 months.

>> No.33481043

I like how creative Chloe got with her, the whole /x/ stuff was quite fun on its own

>> No.33481075

>>33466470
This is funny in a way, like if i could hold this pic up alongside when any en talks bout how hard streaming is or that its just as hard as a real job. Its kind of a surreal feeling.

>> No.33481196

>>33480950
Yea, they're women. It's just that simple.

>> No.33481312

>>33480950
Because working creative jobs where you have to be emotionally upbeat 100% of the times is a completely different type of draining than sitting there checking off checkboxes or moving heavy boxes around.

Mentally draining jobs are far more impactful on your motivation and psychological health than random minimum wage jobs.

>> No.33482126

>>33481312
streaming 40 hours a month is not more mentally taxing than sitting with spreadsheets buried in numbers 12 hours a day worried to get a single digit wrong because you'll be fired if you do. sorry, it simply isn't.

>> No.33482186

>>33457560
whats work?

>> No.33482345

>>33457787
They've all been jabbed multiple times, they stay inside all the time, have bad sleep schedules, don't exercise, and eat Uber Eats daily. Yeah, their overall health is dogshit.

>> No.33482381

>>33482126
Its an entirely different type of stress though.
Working on spreadsheets at least has some relief and comfort of progression. When working on spreadsheets you have a direct correlation between your hard work and progress and reward. You see your work paying off and you see progress being made.

With streaming its different and there's no real progress or direct reward because there's no real goal or ending. Its just never ending streams on streams where you have to sit there and pretend to be happy. And that lack of progress or pay off is misery inducing.

>> No.33482479

>>33463624
>teacher of children
>chumpedo
Yup, checks out.
https://thehill.com/homenews/3636507-disney-worker-teachers-among-160-arrested-in-florida-human-trafficking-investigation-sheriff/

>> No.33482855

>>33460350
Because Watame is based.

>> No.33482930

>>33461876
>destroying their vocal chords because they're untrained
This. Most of them sing high notes by squeezing their throats instead of pushing from the chest. Go listen to Moona sing, that's how you're supposed to do it.

>> No.33483021

>>33482381
You cant honestly think a wagee derives more satisfaction from updating Excel spreadsheets that nobody ever seems to care about unless the data is incorrect, over being a pop culture icon that gets tons of fanart and people sending SCs suggesting you cured their depression.

>> No.33483071

>>33482381
You have it completely backwards

> Working on spreadsheets at least has some relief and comfort of progression
You've never done any sort of mundane work in your life, have you? There is no feeling of progression as you do your work and you're unlikely to find an employer who pays you based on progress.

> there's no real progress or direct reward
Increased income from ads, merch, membership
Increased daily VOD views and interactions in comments and socials media
Increased CCV and interactions with chat

>> No.33483194

>>33483021
I've worked multiple types of jobs over my life.
The shit where you're just treading water endlessly with no end or relief in sight just murders your will to continue.

Being able to sit down and be told
>just do X Y and Z, and when you're done you can just kinda chill for a minute
is so much more satisfying.

>> No.33483198

>>33481312
>Mentally draining jobs are far more impactful on your motivation and psychological health than random minimum wage jobs.
But that doesn't leave you you feeling physically unwell. If you're severely depressed then sure that fuck with your body physically. But that's not the case here - they just want to take a day off and so make up a quick lie about it. Which is normal because everybody does it.

>> No.33483508

>>33483194
>The shit where you're just treading water endlessly with no end or relief in sight just murders your will to continue.
>Being able to sit down and be told
>>just do X Y and Z, and when you're done you can just kinda chill for a minute
>is so much more satisfying.
You do understand that in the long run it would be the exact same shit right? You're gonna be playing spreadsheet simulator for god knows how long until you either quit or get a lucky promotion into overseeing the people playing spreadsheet simulator.
And besides that your example doesn't apply to big streamers like the holos, they absolutely have a sense of progression and clear goals, they aren't 2 views get stuck in the same numbers and goals for years

>> No.33483632

>>33458112
that's a load of shit
she traveled with sana and went to cons all the time

>> No.33483695

>>33483508
The issue for them is there's no real defined job for them to do. Just exist and make number bigger.

Its why so many of them stop getting creative and just burn out, because there's no real push for it. The reward for super creative and innovative streams is the same as sitting there reacting to youtube videos. As far as they can tell there's no real benefit for their hard work, they just exist.

>> No.33483875

>>33483695
So they lack the self motivation to generate content or what?

>> No.33483926

>>33479000
Lol i'm Sorry for your condition

>> No.33483989

>>33483875
Lack of motivation directly turns into lack of motivation for anything and into depression and hatred for streaming.

>> No.33484046

>>33483989
Then they are weak and will not survive the coming winter.

>> No.33484063

>>33474812
Ayamefriend...

>> No.33484105

>>33474812
>Sorry my grandmother died again, brb 3 months

>> No.33484295

>>33483989
Which is why they should do like most of the JP girls and keep each-other motivated instead of generating drama for attention.

>> No.33484377

>>33482126
how could you possibly know that?

>> No.33484604

>>33484295
Its harder because the EN girls can't just casually throw together a holoEN lesbian orgy like the holoJP girls can.
Without the sexual motivation and connections that the JP girls are able to build EN was doomed from the start.

>> No.33484746

>>33483695
>The issue for them is there's no real defined job for them to do. Just exist and make number bigger.
I get what you're trying to say but they applied to a vtuber company and they knew exactly what they were getting into

>> No.33484765

>>33484604
>Canada and Australia in the same gen of the same branch
What fucking dumbassery is this.

>> No.33484913

>>33484765
Its just the weird JP fuckery where EN = Global, which never makes fucking sense.

They really should have based branches on time zones and nationalities. That way they could have scheduled lesbian orgies.

>> No.33485185

>>33484913
>NA vs EU, vtuber edition
Not again

>> No.33485247

>>33485185
I just want to see Kiara fuck a bunch of girls on stream.

>> No.33485307

>>33484913
Really blows my mind how JPs are dumb enough to not realise the world is fucking giant and timezones are crippling when it comes to collaborative content.

>> No.33485431

>>33480269
you can't save them
you can only choose how much to support them and hope they'll save themselves

>> No.33485611

>>33477408
Therapists/psychiatrists are a meme and the meds they give are a spook. It's unironically better to live with whatever mental problems you have than be a medicated zombie. I'd rather run the risk of letting this shit kill me and accept that it as a natural selection pruning me because I wasn't fit to keep living. Girls and people like Kiara in general won't find much use in a therapist

>> No.33485732

>>33485611
as someone who uses both therapy and adhd meds that have made my life significantly better, allow me to disagree.
got proof for that by the way ? papers ? articles ?

>> No.33486132

>>33485732
>PROOFS???
Pretty common knowledge and sense that taking a million pills will fuck with your body and get you nowhere. Just look at all those fat depressed catmoms on a dozen different pills. You think their conditions are improving? The entire medical industry is set up to allow people to use medicine as an excuse for their inability or willing to take care of themselves and solve their own problems.

"A patient cured is a customer lost."

>> No.33486239

>>33486132
>common knowledge
common knowledge is a fallacy that's rooted in a naïve understanding of how things work.
the entire point of treating mental illnesses is that your brain is already fucked up and isn't operating in its normal function, just in the same way diabetes can fuck up your body and other hormonal irregularities.

>> No.33486322

>>33485732
I'm unironically speaking from
>Personal ((experience))
My grandparents didn't like how the meds were making me a zombie and all slow so they basically kept me off the meds and let nature/god handle me since they pretty much figured the meds were poison and kept me off of them for years. All things considered I've been fine (relatively speaking) for the most part, running the risk of this shit possibly consuming and killing me and being alone is better since it means I'm still free and myself but then again, in addition to being a literal autist with ADHD I got diagnosed with with retardation and something called psychotic disorder so it doesn't really matter at this point

>> No.33486330

>>33486239
The medical industry makes more money from you if it can keep you on as many pills as possible for as long as possible.

And protip, type 2 diabetes is very easy to cure. Trouble is it's literally free to do it and doctors don't like that.

>> No.33486392

>>33486330
Pippa thread is 3 threads down.

>> No.33486435

>>33486392
I'd tell you to go take your meds but from the sounds of it you're on the ball with that shit already. Good goy!

>> No.33487074

>>33486239
>the entire point of treating mental illnesses is that your brain is already fucked up and isn't operating in its normal function
Yea, just like how that vax with the same efficiency as a placebo, or putting kids on hormonetherapy for the rest of their lives, is about helping people.
It's totally not about tricking people into paying out the fat cash.

>> No.33487156

>>33486322
>I got diagnosed with
Was this before or after they put you on the pills?

>> No.33487282

>>33487156
Before they put me on the pills

>> No.33487505

>>33486322
idk anon, you sound fairly lucid and articulate for someone officially diagnosed as retarded.
your doctors must be pretty bad.

>> No.33487538

>>33476012
Two redbulls a day isn't even one cup of Starbuck's coffee worth in caffeine, anon.

>> No.33487666

>>33483926
Wagie wagie ragie in the cagie

>> No.33487675

>>33486322
adhd is a chemical deficiency in your brain. meds don't work the same on everyone (which is why a neurologist / psychiatrist should adjust dosage and the exact type of medicine according to your feedback), but if they do they can allow you to have a better quality of life. if you can be without meds and still function, I'm unironically happy for you.

>> No.33487727
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33487727

>>33487505
I suppose so, given my grandmother thinks I'm not as retarded or slow as people say I am but sometimes I do think I am legit retarded because of how slow I can be in regards to processing/doing certain things but then again it's probably just shitty self doubt. As far as the retardation stuff goes I mean

>> No.33487950

>>33487538
Two a day? She were downing them two an hour or so during those weeks of grind.

>> No.33490013

>>33457479
voice comes and goes, that's quite common for people whose job necessitates using their vocal chords for hours on end. As good an excuse as it is believable. You can absolutely use this with your boss and coworkers if you're working from home.

>> No.33490498

I once lost my voice from sneezing too much. Fuck allergies.

>> No.33490906

>>33487675
a person with psychosis cannot function without meds, anon just doesn't realize how fucked up he is, which is common
also it was about time /vt/ got literal schizos lol

>> No.33491106

>>33490013
In her case she could easily do one of her silent drawing streams.
Or do a Suisei and meme it out with TTS.

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33491828

>>33490906
Severe mental trauma and continuous petty suffering to the point of negating your own self worth also helps a lot to mental stability, just ask on any concentration camp, or your local /vt/ shitter.

>> No.33492128

>>33490906
That anon seems be sane enough to hide it or something if he's able to go without being in some kind of psych ward

>> No.33492165 [DELETED] 

>>33475723
Yeah I force myself to just sit in the sun everyday for 15 minutes.

>> No.33492229

>>33492165
Don't you have windows?

>> No.33492299

>>33490906
Meh, I survived this long without having to take that poison, I'll be fine. Probably a lot better since I basically got told by female witches/entities thats been with me since childhood telling my I belong to them even in death

>> No.33492413

>>33486132
>>33486322
That post was not me saying GO TAKE 1 MILLION MEDS but moreso saying that you can work shit out with a therapist in an office where you just talk. Doesn't work for everyone but it's worth a shot if multiple doctors give you the same opinion.

>> No.33497902

>>33487666
Kek

>> No.33499764

>>33464336
Talking about Suisei, one of the most hardworkers in hololive, is straight up malicious.
Laplus on the other hand is really just a bitch and deserves every hate possible.

>> No.33500247

>>33457479
would you rather have a stream with your oshi sounding like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBNutSMOFY

>> No.33501004

>>33457560
Explosive diarrhea.

>> No.33501064

>>33457479
with the frequency at which they give themselves diarrhea poisoning, you would think it was intentional

>> No.33501160

>>33464017
Nobody on this board or in the JP community defends Laplus, she is EN-tier trash.

>> No.33501172

>>33457787
Gura has said she has a chronic illness, but /ggg/ is pretty sure it is just like IBS or crohn's or one of the other illnesses that make you shit

>> No.33502667

>>33457949
Ina wasnt even at mori's party. Only Mori and Gura were and Gura did a members stream the next day where she mentioned how she had an IBS flare up

>> No.33507396

Ina can't separate herself from her character which is why her character getting sexualized stresses her out. This year Cover has been heavily promoting Ina as the sexy member of Myth in games/merch/streams which worsens her stress related illness. Cover even gave her the sexiest outfit in the 2nd anniversary diorama merch just to put salt in the wound.

Ina can't say anything direct about it due to her NDA but this is why she called this her worst year yet. There are indications that Ina is getting a new main outfit but it won't happen until the spring/summer of next year.

>> No.33511858

>>33457479
I HATE INA

>> No.33512103

>>33457479
>omg nobody gets sick they're all lazy liars reee
stop projecting, faggot

>> No.33516585

>>33457479
I mean why not?

>> No.33517300

>>33457479
could be for management

>> No.33517740

>>33457479
At least they don't use le dark place excuse, I'll never forgive 3dpd content creators for inventing this.

>> No.33517785

>>33457479
Imagine anyone from HoloEn streaming regularly and consistently.

Lazy, sloth-ass western culture.

>> No.33518969

>>33464017
I think it would be unheard of for someone from HoloEn to take 6 weeks off because their dog died.

Wait, no it wouldn't because it actually happened.

>> No.33519053

>>33464100
>major throat surgery and diarrhea are on the same level

>> No.33519734

you know its a slow day when people are desperate enough to try squeezing drama out of Ina of all people

>> No.33519859

>>33500247
If ina posted a short video sounding like this, at least I'd be more willing to believe that she actually is sick instead of just stating it on twitter with no proof sounding like a dumb fucking excuse for not wanting to stream

>> No.33523582

Choked on a huge dick and broke her voice, shame.

>> No.33523726

>>33519859
want her to send you a signed doctors note just to be on the safe side?

>> No.33524286

did yall forget the foundation chubas build their career on is a full freaking lies to play character in the first place. why would you cry about them lying of all things

>> No.33524726

>>33524286
>the foundation chubas build their career on is a full freaking lies
make 90% of this board pointless then

>> No.33528004

>>33461453
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER

>> No.33528287

>>33457479
because of /vt/

>> No.33528877

>>33528004
THE ONE PIECE! THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!

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