/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3326592

Why did Eops care about Gibara anyway

>>3326963
She screamed like a monkey during gacha

>>3326592
>losing gibara for their EN audience really fucked them up in the ass
what did he mean by this

>>3326592
I thought EOP is Lulu's forte

>>3327048
This. Sara too. Just have them collab with NijiEN and it'll be fine.

>>3327048
More like Hana.

>>3327048
EOPs has long forgotten Lulu by now

So what happened to the NijiEN project?
Is it still going to happen?

>>3327244
They’re waiting for Hololive to announce gen 2 first

>>3327244
They can't literal indians dying left and right, it gives a bad image to them and also


>ZERO PRESSENCE

They could get their own Coco but its too late now.

>>3327355
>indians dying left and right
What's that got to do with anything?

>>3327355
>They could get their own Coco but its too late now.
The fuck they gonna so that? The biggest name I know via EN is probably in Vshojo being Melody that’s the closest to a Coco like person you’re find. If you mean getting a famous twitch streamer or something, if the streamer was already good why would they join NijiEN out of all the things which is the biggest gamble possible? They get more benefits going indie since from what I see the amount of exposure given to them by Nijisanji is on par with indie numbers.

>>3326592
Gibara was hiding away in member only streams for the past year, most EOPs had moved on.
They have lulu but instead are pushing HSKW, whoever's in charge of the overseas branches is trying to kill NijiEN.

>>3327431
I meant not a Coco for EN but a streamer for JP branch to pander to EOPS.

>>3327453
HSKW is one of the more recognizable Niji chuubas though because of her connection to Haato and Matsuri.

>>3327503
They do have someone like that in a form of Hoshikawa though. Hoshi is probably the best choice since she’s well known enough and her English is good enough but right now might be a little to late. It would work of maybe months before but now would be pretty hard.

>>3327355
They got their own coco, it's HSKW.
Too bad she's a self hating hafu that gets elementary/middle school bullying flash backs when she starts speaking English and refuses to do it.

>>3327576
mesugaki needs a script to spoke english it will never work and its already too late.

>>3327503
Coco knew what worked being a westerner herself and laid the ground work for demand for a EN branch.
Whoever hired her should have gotten a big bonus.
If they wanted Hoshikawa to be their equivalent of Coco it should’ve started months ago right after the initial boom in the west.

>>3326988
Exactly as stated

Guys, I really miss Gibara...

>>3327600
At best, HSKW is Haachama ironically enough. That might also be the best and only way for her to rebrand herself too since Haato was also a separate character before becoming the strongest idol possible but even if she did that it might not work out completely.

>>3327620
She did two English speaking streams right after Niji EN was anounced.
One of the was her doing the most basic duolingo tests which was a complete waste of time and probably sabotaged views more than it helped.
The minecraft stream had more viewers.
But I strongly suspect she doesn't want to speak english.

>>3327657
>right after
Was it?
I think her english streams were a fair bit more recent than EN auditions, but my notion of time is all fucked thanks to corona-chan.

>>3326592
Don't worry, we got them covered.

>>3327801
Hana reclined pretty fucking hard after she went on her anti coomer rant and after Holo ID gen 2 was released.

>>3327801
I showed this to an average holofag and they didn't even know them

>>3327897
Average holofag or average holo ENfag, anon? Let's make that one clear.

>>3327844
Nah, Hana reclined when EN debut and declined again when HoloID became relevant (post pekomoona) which led directly into ID2.

>>3327929
EN of course

>>3327942

>>3327844
>her anti coomer rant
Spoonfeed me

>>3326963
Design and VA. What Ichikara doesn't seem to understand is that people watch vtubers to get that Japanese flavor out of streamers. That's why rebranding Indians as HoloEN, despite the fact they can speak it, was a complete failure.

A shame that Ars, Ange, Sasaki, Lulu and other nijisanji girls with a nice amount of clips at the start of 2020, are forgotten by now

>>3327997
That and everyone hates indians. Including Indians.

>>3327997
To be honest, if they had debuted English speakers as JPs and then redebut the, back to EN it probably would have been a pretty big success. If Amatsuka Uto has taught me anything, EOPs are starving for JP style ENs and if Niji axtually went leech via grabbing some of the known artist from Hololive they might get success. EN vtubers nowaday are all about poo poo pee pee and a seiso EN speaker at least will be dynamic and new enough to grab some of the already bitten pie.

>>3326592
>Zero Presence
>Multiple posts on NijiEN every day

>>3328171
>1 thread
nice presence there nijibro

>>3328171
Niji team has been blue balling us for months, we want to know, shitpost, and forget about them in a few months already.

>>3328171
Honestly, most of those are me samefagging for attention. I like to think that someone else is talking to me and I love seeing (you)s

>>3328101
Ars was my introduction to chubbas... i remember a friend spamming me videos about chubbas years ago but they were mostly twitter videos and i fucking hate twitter and its UX so i never watched them. I got the Ars "social anxiety mc" video recommended and that was the first full length clip i watched on my own interest. Then the Festival bandaid one and then there was a big mix of watching Niji and Holo clips, but mostly Niji with mostly Ars.

Korone changed everything for me tho, i'm not sure which Korone clip i watched first but she was the first one i watched a full stream and now i'm exclusively a holo fag. I don't know shit about Niji anymore. I already struggle watching all the Holos and i'm too invested in them to keep tabs in the whole clusterfuck that is Niji. I imagine my story is pretty similar to most Holofags.

>>3328171
Wednesday(burger time) is the day Niji usually announces something big right?
At this point it’s a ritual post.

>>3327234
She always streams when I'm sleeping, is not my fault.

>>3327234
All EOPs know about lulu is “eldritch horror” or “totally normal art student” from clips.

>>3328108
>EOPs are starving for JP style ENs
Define JP style EN? What are traits that make up the JP style?

>>3328224
>I don't know shit about Niji anymore. I already struggle watching all the Holos and i'm too invested in them to keep tabs in the whole clusterfuck that is Niji. I imagine my story is pretty similar to most Holofags.
Yeah, that's me. Starting with Niji, ending with Holo.
Don't regret a thing.

>>3327801
Sara's English is the cutest shit in the world. Never heard a British/Japanese accent before but man it's adorable.

>>3328224
Similar with me.
Was recommended Nijisanji and Hololive clips. Started with Ars and Ebio but truly fell down the rabbit hole with Aqua neighbor wars, Suisei tetris/murder compilations and Pekora tnt cannon.
After that Gen 4 debut and started watching Asacoco and Watame streams

>>3326988
Not sure I don't think she was ever that popular compared to like Ars and Lulu levels. She was certainly one of the more well known ones but I can never remember it being like Lulu and Ars having live translators and a large visible amount of comments from an overseas audience.

>>3328402
For one thing, acting innocent and cute would be a given. Not constantly making sex jokes and talking about pee and poo would help. Of course it will all be an act but the act of being pure will at least be enough to trigger a response of cuteness that overrides the acting, enough that people will like them. Although it probably help to make sure the streamer is somewhat genuine so that when a yabe happen the damage will be lessened and people don’t riot cause their cute and innocent oshi is a two face cunt.

>>3328108
Transferring JP to EN may work but it would have to be natural. If they just grab JP streamers and put them as EN vtubers, it may come off as pandering. What they need is to find talent who exist in the JP space but also have a familiarity with the EN space as well.

>>3328402
It's the difference between the Japanese diplomat visiting the west and the Western tourist thinking they're Japanese because they visited once.

>>3328538
>>3328447
>>3328224
Makes me wonder if there really is such a thing as being an EOP filter anyways. It really seems like translated clips>everything else when it comes to how popular you get with another demographic. Just curious about a world where if Niji actually had the more popular clips/larger number of translated ones, whether non-JP speakers would gravitate towards them anyways.

>>3328881
I don't think its just that. Hololive also recognised the potential of that growing popularity from having more clips with English speakers and exploited it by bringing in Coco at just the right time and having lots of the girls make an active effort to engage with that part of the audience. You need to throw the EOP a bone occasionally and make them feel like they are included and part of the stream/community rather than just observers of a japanese thing. Otherwise they will probably just get bored and move on.

>>3328101
>>3328224
I still remember my wideface mage who can't count to 10.
She was my first Niji.

Ars was fun and engaged with the overseas fairly often, shame about the Apex thing

>>3328881
>Makes me wonder if there really is such a thing as being an EOP filter anyways
There is, it's called streaming APEX for months on end.
It fucked with holos who did it their numbers too.

>>3329256
Matuli...

Is this the weekly "NijiEN will definitely be announced today!" thread?

>>3329230
I don't really watch her so could you give me a quick run down about the Apex thing?

>>3329451
No scandal or anything, she used to stream chill Minecraft autism well into EOP hours but now is mostly Apex

>>3327801
Not even a holofag (I’m a vshoujo guy) but why are Niji’s designs almost always so unappealing? The blonde isn’t bad, but the other two are hardly remarkable - a common theme among every Nijjer I’ve seen with few exception.

>>3326592
Her and Lulu were really the only Nijis people cared about.

>>3329553
Ahh fuck. That's too bad. Similar thing happened to Matsuri too.

>>3329577
They have like only one designer for every ten talents they've got.

>>3329691
no they dont?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQl-Q8S9X7Y

>>3329596
Ange has potential but she's too autistic to know how to wrangle ESLtards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TQDO0eaP5I

>>3329577
>I’m a vshoujo guy
You mean they exist besides trolls and 12 year olds?!

>>3328402
Check out Prism Project, especially Gen 1, or even Pikamee. English speaking chuubas based in Japan are very endearing.

>>3329691
This only applies to the early 2018 ones, when Ichikara was a pure tech company starting to dip their toes into the vtuber space.

If I remember correctly the Gen5 debuts had some English speakers in chat and what a EOP filter generation that was, no profit was made there

>>3327801
>The blonde isn't so bad
>i'm a vshoujo guy
You clearly have a type anon...

>>3329577
>I'm a vshoujo guy
Explains your lack of taste in design

>>3329596
Nui can also be part of that since she played skyrim and it had EOP presence. But the games she's playing right now will literally filter anyone who enjoyed her skyrim streams. She made a video asking them to recommend her some RPGs but I don't know if she even read the comments or if she cared.

and that sucks because anyone who watched her skyrim streams would know on how she really roleplays her character, would read in-game books, and get attached to NPCs she interacts.

>>3329577
>calling haha it's L*l*'s design hardly remarkable
Fuck you, and your taste is absolute garbage
t. holofag

>>3329577
Those are from the earlier days, the first few generations before the decision to add weird half animal girls or whatever. Back in the old days of vtubing most vtubers are just basically human avatars, many trying to emulate the big names who in turn was trying to emulate Kizuna Ai herself. Once that got eversatirated, everyone started going for special gimmicks like half dragons or whatever. Nijisanji actually has the most diverse amount of vtuber design from pure human to complete monster like Debu. Its just more of a one for everyone type of deal that Nijisanji has the power for due to their quantity over quality for the most parts.

And I’m surprise you dare show your face outside of your little safe general. Are you trying to get killed, Vfag?

>>3327657
She doesn't. her english is somewhere like 3rd grade level so she's incredibly embarrassed at how bad her english actually is.

Maybe the real NijiEN plan will just be "steadily introduce more people that can speak english into the main branches" like Ban Hada, wouldn't be surprised at this point

>>3328101
I cant speak for Ars but Lulu at least still has a few dedicated clippers and live TLs in the stream from time to time.

>>3330059
Nui asking if Skyrim was an otome game when the game forced her to choose to follow either Hadvar or Rolaf to escpe Helgen, and then by the end of the tutorial cave wanting to marry Hadvar already was the funniest start to a skyrim playthrough I've ever seen from anyone

>>3329089
it's just the Chinese were mass-producing translated clips to boost their oshi and Nijisanji didnt have that advantage. Though funny it came to bite them in the ass lol

>>3326963
her main gimmick was being clipped for screaming at gacha games and making cute noises in general which is the Hololive trademark

>>3330514
I've heard her speak English. It's significantly better than Haato's.
Honestly she speaks English better than the average Seanigger that posts here.

>>3328101
When I got into vtubers around march last year, there's quite a balance between Niji clips and Holo clips but I realized that gradually, pretty much every translators and clippers went ham on hololive and abandon Nijis

>>3327620
>this is what tatsonuko actually believe
Aqua and Miko had more impact to get EOPs than anything Coco ever did

>>3330847
Those are the views chasing clippers. The vanguard like RollCakeBoy and Makaru disappeared or severely slowed down their output for some reason.

>>3330847
All the old subbers still sub niji and hololive.
There was a giant influx of seanigger subbers that barely speak English and Japanese that trendhopped because the youtube algorithm likes holo clips and they're using it to make money.
I report their channels to cover all the time because they're not allowed to monetize the clips.
God I hate seaniggers.

>>3330847
Hololive got massively popular in Indonesia and most of those clippers were SEA to begin with. Honestly it inspired me more to learn Japanese so I dont mind

>>3327620
>>3330809
She has pretty decent conversational English like kiara and Iofi. Saying it's bad because she flunked a test is like saying most native Japanese can't pass N1.

>>3329577
>I'm a vshoujo guy
>The blonde isn’t bad
This explains a lot about your shit taste in design and about vshoujofags in general.

>>3327329
so they are retarded

>>3331583
Not retarded. They don't have the same foothold in the West as Hololive right now.

If they set a schedule first, Hololive can debut their VSinger and/or EN Gen 2, and most eyes will be focused on those instead of NijiEN.

If they wait for HoloEN Gen 2 first, they might be able to catch the wave of hype because Gen 2 would be old news by then, and Westerners want the shiny new thing.

Cover and Ichikara are likely playing a game of chicken at this point.

>>3328704
You’d get what you wanted if you just watched nina.

>>3327844
SHE HAD AN ANTI COOMER RANT
HOLY FUCKING BASED
I HAVE A FAVOURITE STREAMER NOW

>>3331689
Having an audition before cover then waiting to debut after cover would be pretty much telling everyone that they are relying on cover to get into the EN market instead of their own marketing team and they have no confidence in their own brand.

One of the new Koreans literally repeats her sentences in English and Japanese. Is that not good enough?

>>3331951
One of the potential NijiEN introduced themselves as a Hololive reject in a stream. I can imagine the shitstorm if she actually made it in.

>>3331689
the more they wait the worse for them, more people will get tired of waiting, specially if they have to wait another 4 months. At this point only nijifans and people who want to shitpost about nijien here cares

>>3331951
>>3331689
>>3327329
From leading to following

Oh, how the mighty have fallen

>>3331991
She was actually the one who's the guranteed in. She deleted a tweet saying she applied to NijiEN after it was posted here following her graduation. Aside from the cringe self-proclaimed reject thing she was honestly fine, nothing offensive about her.

>>3331991
>One of the potential NijiEN introduced themselves as a Hololive reject in a stream.
How to create a massive base of antis and getting doxxed to shit 101. Might as well just go on stream and shout nigger as loud as they can. At least it would be funny and probably be more beneficial.

>>3331964
>tfw no one will watch your zoomer pirate
why am I alive

>>3332293
I want to watch her but that one time i could she was playing Apex and I'm dead tired of Apex

>>3331964
Well the first thing she did after her debut was to play Apex. You think her speaking in english would matter that much?

>>3332492
Jesus, dead upon arrival. Even I feel bad for the Nijifags.

>>3327412
Their IN branch just got closed down so it'd leave a bad taste in people's mouths if they were to debut a new gen when the corpses of the INs are still warm.

>>3329577
I can't believe there's an unironic """adult""" fan of those whores.

>>3333190
They just debut a new KR gen though.
They don’t care about the optics.

>>3331689
>>3327329
That is retarded. NijiEN has exactly one chance to steal the spotlight from hololive and that is to announce their debut during a period of time where there's nothing exciting going on in Hololive. If they announce their debut JUST as the western fanbase is getting hyped over EN2's debut then NijiEN will just get drowned out.

>>3333321
Nobody in KR cares about NijiIN, but that's not the same when it comes to the west.

>>3333321
>forget about new Nijisanji KR even though I subbed to them.
>Thought it would be easy to search for them if I type the Nijisanji KR in youtube instead of scrolling throw my subs list.
>Other than Ban Hada, it's random KR members and mostly translations and the only channel that pops up for KR was the official channel page.
>They don't even link to the new KR members that premiered already.
>Forced to use a wiki to find them.

I think I've summed up most of the problems with Nijisanji with a quick search. They lack presence and branding on a fundamental level. If I can't remember you in a few days or find you easily, I'll likely forget to check if you're still active. I've seen more people talk about Nabi than the new KR branch.

>>3333797
This. Ideally they should have started auditions in September-October and debuted in January-February. They're making a lot harder on themselves by debuting later.

>>3333965
>go to wiki
>copy paste name or click youtube link
was it really that hard?

>>3333797
Let's be honest here, they should have made one already when HoloEN blew away all expectations, but they probably had reservations considering their "NijiEN" branch was on life support

>>3334229
If you want to attract viewers that's three steps too many.

>>3334229
For fucks sake stop being a contrarian and just watch Holos okay.

>>3330059
I'm curious if there are some westaboos in Nijisanji. Hololive has some westaboos that maybe make them like to pander western market

>>3328224
Same, the burnout got to me so I'm just watching a selected few as free time like Gura , Suisei, Subaru and Pekora. It helps that their schedules has breaks in between. If there's events for other holos, I would watch it depending on the content. I just can't invest more time for other streamers now that quarantine is letting up.

>>3333965
You have to search in Japanese or Korean. The problem with Niji is that they're using too little avenues of social media, and it's even worse in EN. They basically only have twitter and Youtube discovery, the former which no one reads because it's only official announcements, and the latter which doesn't work when no one from that region is watching anyways. Whenever Holo does something, it's pasted literally everywhere through word of mouth, every member, reddit, and already having a base in EN means the videos are very likely to be recommended to other EN watchers. If Niji wants to break into EN, they need to use some other way other than Youtube to promote, or leech off some other Holo videos through the algorithm.

>>3326592
Weird that I have seen very small english comment in her stream, you meant you only watched her clip on SEAnigger translator's channel or something?

Supposedly Alice and one of the guys can speak decent English too. It's their choice how much they wanted to engage with the foreign audience but the fact that Haachama was the one who took the first step was probably the deciding factor in which company was more successful in the English sphere.

>NijiEN officoal channel
>half of the clips are months old "animated" clips taken straight oit the jp channel
>a lot of them are not even that interesting if you're not already familiar with the characters meaning you don't draw new people in
>most of the rest is just Sara clips
>the one just released is Noraneko 3D reveal and theu someqhow managed to cut off all the good parts and make it look like the most boring shit ever
All the translators they have recruited are doing such an half-assed job it's actually irritating

>>3334542
They have a group of around 6 or 7 people that regularly do watchalongs for the marvel universe movies together?

>>3334687
Yeah I never really saw many English comments on her streams. Even when she was still active and well known among English speaking fans back in early 2020. Nothing like Lulu and Ars where they had dedicated live translators and an obvious number of English language comments overall.

>>3326963
Nothing, she was boring as fuck.

>>3333279
You're acting as if this site ain't filled with teens.

>>3330871
>what is asacoco

>>3335087
Both Yumeoi and Kenmochi speak decent English. It's sort of weird how none of them really promote the fact that they're good at it though. Yumeoi is way too professional about it and I doubt watching him speak English would appeal to anyone already a native speaker. Then Kenmochi just barely uses it for how good he is. It seems like everyone in Niji who speaks English is embarrassed to use it except Yumeoi, whereas any Holo just pushes out broken English no problem when they feel like it.

>>3326592
what happened here? was pretty even late 2019-early 2020

>>3335810
Gen 4

>>3335313
that stream where she was being showered with superchats was funny

So if this shit doesn't get announced today they're waiting until summer, right?

>>3326963
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM1yz42jr8

>>3330599
>and live TLs in the stream
I wish they would use [EN] instead of [trans]. livetl isnt picking up the translations automatically

>>3330599
I remember Ars at some points used to have a team of them doing live translation that would switch over when one had to go.

>>3335810
Coco joined Hololive

>>3333830
If anyone in the west gave a shit about NijiIN they'd still be around.

>>3335555
I wonder if they want to have more in depth conversations with EN viewers, but like you said they’re embarrassed or not confident in their English skills.

>>3334647
I think they’re slowly beginning to understand, granted it’s still slow. Haruka and Akane still post their schedules/streams in English on the subreddit, and it seems like some Ichikara intern realized that it’s best to have a monthly post that has a list of upcoming important events for all their talent. It’s slow but they’re slowly understanding.

>>3330871
>Aqua, the pride of CCP
Silence Zhang

>>3335810
>was pretty even
are you blind? they wasn't never even, hololive alway spiked double in that pic

>>3329577
>Vshojo
>Calling other designs bland
The only Vshojo with a halfway decent design is Melody. The others are the most generic shit on Earth. Like what a rando on the street would come up with if you asked them to draw anime.

>>3336076
So EOP gave a shit about her just like they gave a shit about nijiIN?

>>3331689
>they might be able to catch the wave of hype because Gen 2 would be old news by then, and Westerners want the shiny new thing.
Suuuure, cause these 5 really shined like a supernova

>>3327431
>Aqua
NijiEn can take big names artists that were cancelled for stupid reasons like OH NIPS

>>3336721
I think there were a handful of clips she was relatively well known for that many people may have seen just as they were getting into vtubers considering she was at the height of her popularity in late 2019/early 2020. But she never had some persistent fanbase of English speakers. Maybe she would have if she didn't stop streaming regularly at around the time vtubers took off in the west.

>>3336745
NijiEN with Mizuryu Kei design. Lets go!

>>3328101
fun fact
the main reason why ars and ange aren't getting that many clips anymore is because the main guy who was translating clips of them said he got bored of vtubers.
hes a hero though since he kept on making clips of ars for like 2 months after he announced he would stop

>>3336913
channel?

>>3336982
https://www.youtube.com/c/Qubec/featured

guy lost most of his subscribers when he announced it . its a shame too since his ars gta series is what got me into vtubers

also in the search for the announcement tweet i realized he deleted most of his tweets and youtube channel announcements

>>3337103
https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/qubec
doesn't look like he ever lost subscribers

>>3336741
They debuted before HoloJP5, so what that guy's saying doesn't apply to them. That guy's suggesting a debut like a month or 2 after HoloEN2 when Cover won't have much going on the EN side of things for quite a while. It could work, but it requires delaying NijiEN's debuts to late September at the earliest because I don't expect to see HoloEN2 until August and EN1 has its anniversary early-mid September. September is way too late though, they had their chance to capitalize on a lull in hype in the first third of the year, now they're stuck either waiting another 4 months or getting sandwiched between EN1 costumes, Vsingers and EN2.

>>3337164
Honestly I don't think it really matters when they do it ultimately. Because Hololive can just schedule large collab streams for EN and JP over it anyway if they want. Should just do it whenever is best for them.

>>3336741
Akane (Red one) is probably the only one who actively interacted with EOP in reddit, I heard. Chigusa (Blue) was is the most popular who got carried by her previous reincarnation. Hisupi (Green) is based for calling out seisofag when they get mad at her for collabing with males. Also have the best new model right now. Don't know about Sango (Pink) and Todoki (yellow)

>>3336741
I always thought the blonde girl here's hair was way too thin. Needs way more volume like the other girls here.

>>3333965
https://www.nijisanji.jp/members?filter=NIJISANJI%20KR&order=subscribe_orders&asc=true

>>3337164
They should've debutted them way back in Feb/March. May is stacked with outfits and hololive alternative. June is Gura's birthday celebration and original song along with another of Mori's songs. An announcement for EN Gen 2 debut.

July, they'll announce gen 5's new outfit with a summer theme along with a gen 6 audition.

August and September is way too late for them

>>3337472
I’d be shocked if Nijisanji waits until August to debut the EN branch. I get wanting to go out with their best foot forward but applications closed in December and they supposedly chose who they wanted in already, or at least you’d figure given the mass indie graduations that occurred from late March to early April.

>>3337472
>July, they'll announce gen 5's new outfit with a summer theme along with a gen 6 audition
Intern-kun?

>>3337472
Do you read this shit? There is literally always going to be someones birthday happening or someone releasing an original song or some new generation of people debuting somewhere. If companies put off debuts for this shit they would never debut anyone.

OK, gun to your head and assuming that Hololive Vsingers is scheduled for Mid-June debut and EN2 is scheduled for August. If you're Ichikara management do you try to either

(a) squeeze your EN debut mid to late May
(b) have them go head to head with vsingers (c) schedue it in July
(d) have them go head to head with EN2
(e) have them debut in September

Also, do you think the new recruits are feeling pressured with their debuts too? Like I know Ichikara will probably consider it as a big win if they manage to get 10k-20k on their debut stream and be at a 100k subs by 6 months but would the newbies be inclined to compare themselves to Vsingers and especially EN2 in terms of numbers?

>>3337776
I think they will probably just debut them whenever they originally planned. If we are going by previous foreign branches they have launched even having 100k across the board after a year would be a good showing.

>>3337776
>would the newbies be inclined to compare themselves to Vsingers and especially EN2 in terms of numbers?
If they entitled to have holo's number then they should have join holo in the first place unless they choose niji because they're the fan of the company in the first place

>>3337472
>Someone just bought ads on Times Square Billboard for Ina's Birthday.

>>3336328
You know you can just input the tag if there are some translators using something stupid?

>>3337829
Yeah, absolutely this. I hope that self-proclaimed Hololive reject girl is prepared to work hard and not expect Hololive numbers in Nijisanji.

>>3337776
earliest the better and before HoloES

>>3337901
Is there potential nijiEN girl that didn't choose niji as backup choice if she failed holo's auditions?

>>3337961
Maid Mint was reportedly a Nijisanji fangirl and remains a potential candidate.

The absolute pressure for NijiEN if they debutted at a bad time where cover keeps pumping out announcements

>>3338039
Is there really any pressure? I don't know anyone who seriously expects them to be on the same level. There isn't much of anything to indicate that will be the case or a reasonable expectation.

>>3335810
>what happened here?
Simple answer?
Azur lane Collab > Translator boom > Coco and Asacoco > Even more translators/bandwagoners > (((Corona))) > EN Debut
With a snowball effect happening all along the way thanks to Youtube's algorithm.

With how dead the subreddit of Ninisanji is, along with less clips of the members, it's looking pretty dark for NijiEN

Oh yeah, did i mention that the average Nijifag are also gatekeeping the Holofags or just the EOPfags in general.

My rrat is that NijiEN was supposed to be released in April but internal drama happened so they canned someone and had to replace them.

>>3338092
Imagine if they ended up recruiting a bunch of numberfags ala-Kiara. The absolute cope that we'd see if none of them get 100k in a month or if they all average around 1k viewers would be something to behold

>>3338092
They keep pumping out new KR so I think anything around KR's number is enough to keep them satisfied

>>3338039
They is no way they can compete with Hololive inflated number backed by ironic weeb, redditard and seanigger. Tge only way they can compete is if somehow they manage to land someone who actually have real talent whether it's singing, playing instruments like RichardEB or 8bit drummer, or someone who is legit good at games or former esport. Or they can follow Niji tradition of hiring real professionals to play their character. I heard there are scientist and universities professor among the En characters. Would be neat if they can get real one so we can have educational vtuber.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000108.000030865.html

>>3327897
Well I only know who Hoshikawa and L*l*, don't know about the other one

>>3338162
don't forget the Coco taiwan yab (the highest peak on that chart Sept 30 to be exact) and countless drama (free publicity) and for some reason eops love drama shit.

>>3338194
Mint.....

>>3337873
takos powerful

>>3338174
Where are all the gatekeeping nijifags? The thread here spoonfeeds in the OP and I don't think that any kind of behavior like that would be tolerated on reddit.

>>3338194
That was the holo reject bitch for sure. Based nijiEN manager

Watch them debut 3 generation's worth of NijiEN talents, which is why it's taking so long

at this point I dont care anymore

>>3338162
fit in Miko's FAQ stay home GTA 5 streams being noticed by the algorithm and then the Gen 4 3D debuts and you have the reason.

>>3337164
>They debuted before HoloJP5
That's weird, I remember seeing their debut announcement after holo five debuted, I'll have to verify that

>>3338174
Nijimod...

>>3338341
Jesas christo that's pitible

>>3338341
they are doomed...

>>3338233
the chinese yab really activated saviorfags and whiteknightfags and it was during the height of wetern anti-chink propaganda machine

>>3338341
Do nijisanji members have fan discords? I mean, I typed in Gura's fan discord and it led me to a wiki full of links to all of the holopro's fan discords and they're pretty active

Just face it, nijisanji is doomed

Haven't watched a niji stream outside of 3D or lulu for a year but I'm sure it'll be fine.

>>3328402
is acting like a turbo cringe weaboo included in this category

>>3328103
The Indians ruined India.

>>3337282
>Hisupi (Green) is based for calling out seisofag when they get mad at her for collabing with males.
Nijiwhores do it again. The west is idolfag seiso country, at least for jp agencies. VShojo has the western whorelover market cornered already so there is no place for Niji in the west

>>3338217
If they are numberfags they shouldn't have joined Nijisanji in the first place.

>>3338641
Hololive seems to spend a decent amount of effort on scouting and vetting, with Yagoo even personally travelling overseas for interviews.
Plus bringing in people on recommendations from current members.
Nijisanji throws shit at the wall, keeps what sticks and dumps what doesn't. If they get some numberfags they're not going to last.

>>3338718
>Yagoo even personally travelling overseas for interviews
Holy kek.

>>3338259
Back when niji sub become official, the first thing previous mod endorse is to take them off from r/all

>>3338718
you dont need to travel to do an interview

>>3338780
According to lofi yagoo did went to indonesia for 1st gen audition. Not to mention during the iconic AKB 48 interview. He said he just came back from chink land

>>3338779
Wtf? Are they seriously that dumb? I know r/all is considered toxic by reddits hugbox standards but that shit is literally free advertising. No fucking wonder their sub is irrelevant.

nips think that to eops all vtubers = hololive. It is also spreading in nip land. female vtuber = hololive.

>>3338836
Why the fuck did that retard not check before sending a superchat? Just awkward for the streamer to correct him

>>3338836
What does it mean, anon?

>>3338836
>>3338854
What does it say?

>>3338854
>retard
>holofag
> ぺこ
You know the answer anon

>>3338836
at this point in Japan if you want to be a succesful female vtuber you apply to Hololive and if you are a male you apply to nijisanji

>>3338836
Who from hololive should I superchat while pretending they are from Nijisanji? Time for revenge.

>>3338854
to trigger faggots

>>3338936
If you want to be mean Korone probably. Bonus points if it's during a collab with Okayu.

>>3338779
I just went and checked and it wasn't anyone from the Niji one suggesting it but a mod from the virtualyoutubers one and plenty of people disagreed with him.

>>3338936
thanks for supporting our company :)

>>3338888
>My first time sending a superchat to a Hololiver(?)! I only love Sukoya-san (and Tomoe-san). Game fight!

>>3338936
Kiara.
She need all money that you can give.

>>3338833
There is also a recent instance where a niji id fan make a video on why he prefer niji. It would have been a non issue if its not for the fact he also compare it to hololive while bringing towa yab as his argument. Needless to say fans who watch both get irritated and holo fans get angry. The video is deleted now, and holo fans who want to give niji a chance get further demotivated

>>3338936
Isn't there a literal Niji reject in hololive? Do it to her.

>>3338272

I was present in the turnover of the r/Ninisanji subreddit to become official. There were lots of seething inr/VirtualYoutubers in particular about going global and pandering to EOP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/kjsgt5/rnijisanji_has_officially_changed_over_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Although their concerns are valid, it just comes across as the early Holofags (cough CN as well) who didn't like their little hobby to go mainstream.

>>3338936
are you calling for a raid?

>>3339012
You mean Matuli? She'd just laugh it off.

>>3339012
She's probably glad she got rejected from niji lmao

>>3339012
Suisei is a Niji reject iirc

>>3338936
Stop being a tribalistic faggot

>>3338259

I was present in the turnover of the r/Nijisanji subreddit to become official. There were lots of seething inr/VirtualYoutubers in particular about going global and pandering to EOP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/kjsgt5/rnijisanji_has_officially_changed_over_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Although their concerns are valid, it just comes across as the early Holofags (cough CN as well) who didn't like their little hobby to go mainstream.

>>3338936
Choco has been called a nijileech. Matsuri probably has the most collabs with them lately. holostars isn't niji but an agency under 774. How about chammers to see if it will trigger another schizo arc?

>>3336741
the only thing I remember about these ones was when the blue one got in trouble for singing the nijisanji anthem too early or something, like she hadn't earned it

that and the accent drama really turned me off of exploring nijis even though I kinda liked how haachama and hoshikawa interacted. i know it's all a business but like, at least pretend to be friendly, come on

>>3338936
Imagine spending money on a company you hate. Fucking retard

>>3338779
none of that happened you retarded faggot.

>>3333797
I mean remember when gen 5 was announced and then niji announed their new gen like the same fucking day

>>3339012
There's a literal Niji.

>>3338936
>>3338956
>>3339012
>>3338970
>>3339045
Fuck off tribalfags

>>3339134
she didn't get in trouble, her manager had ok'd it explicitly, just trolls and antis seeing it as something they could attack a new member over

>>3339137
I mean that dude sent like $3 so I will too. Not a big deal.

>>3339117
This would be a good idea if everything wasn't so turned down now. Everything is day old bread now besides haato schizo but even then.

>>3339152
Actually so fucking stupid. Especially since that superchat came from a japanese kid that didn't know any better.

>>3339139
Compelling argument

>>3339152
What? Suisei has talked multiple times about being a Niji reject

How is that tribalfagging

>>3339174
No one in Holo will have a reaction to being called a niji it's actually happened before and they just corrected them. And no chance they will even read that $3 supa

>>3339152
What? Suisei has talked multiple times about being a Niji reject

How is that tribalfagging

>>3338959
Back then, r/vyt is niji sub in all but name considering how dead the the official sub is

>>3327970
She made a tweet that simping for chuubas is not any different than simping for e-girls, which rubbed some people the wrong way.

>>3339270
>which rubbed some people the wrong way
Literally one autist who brings it up in every thread mentioning Hana ever

>>3339244
But that isn't what you said at least be correct about it.

>>3337282
its getting better now.

>>3339270
>>3339295
Hana was right!

>>3339316
It almost always does most of this petty stuff is autists who don't even watch them to begin with looking for any kind of drama to be outraged about.

>>3339300
A mod from r/vyt said it
while the mods from niji reply with this
" I second every point that was made"
" i concur with this"
Do you need to nitpick it even more? or do you fail at your basic language class?

>>3331897
...you're never going to watch her

>>3337282
I've nothing against big tits, but the rigging of hers looks pretty odd. Kind off gives the illusion they're unnaturally protruding?

>>3337572
Yeah, that's why >>3331689 is a stupid idea and if NijiEN's management is really working by this idea they should all be fired.

>>3339367
Her doom streams were pretty dope ngl. I just want to see anime girl shoot. Hopefully we get more Valorant

>>3338836
>It is also spreading in nip land. female vtuber = hololive.
Seems like troll if he's japanese

>>3339364
There isn't even a comment in response to that post with those phrases in it that I can see. Are you literally just making shit up now?

>>3339429
making shit up about niji is holofags special talent

>>3339424
Apparently it was just a dumb kid who got confused

>>3339458
making shit up about holo is nijifags special talent too. In fact its a special talent of all tribalfags. Stop tribalfagging faggot.

>>3339429
Jesus, you made me check the thread for this
here is the actual quote which ofc i cant get it right with memory alone
"Seconding every point that was made here"
"I concur with everything that ChineseMaple's stating here"
Now i dont know about what they taught you at school but seconding and accepting someone point is basically the same as making the suggestion themself.
Niji longtime fans and mods do not want the sub to reach r/all and thats a fucking fact and the core of argument of niji fan being a gatekeeping fans ( which i see as nothing wrong as far im concerned).

>>3339458
>>3339492

>>3337776
B is the best solution. Ideally they should've already debuted, nothing major was happening in April so if they debuted then they could take full advantage of golden week to build a presence and some clout, but obviously the timeline didn't line up with that so here we are.

Out of these four options, B is the best option that doesn't involve rushing the process. It sucks that they'll have to go head to head with the vsinger, but at least it beats going head to head with EN2.

>>3339012
I can’t believe Niji rejected Suisei and Marine.

>>3339513
could be worse, could be upd8

>>3339492
The only people that complain about being gatekept are the people that deserve to be gatekept and that's why Nijisanji fans are hated. People can't stand that Nijisanji fans don't want the cancerous fanbase and take measures to prevent it.

>>3339511
They're gonna line up on a stage with the guillotine to meet Calli if the VSinger is actually good and has several songs ready for debut. B is too much of a risk. You know how people flock to Mori cause of her debut song.

>>3338174
Blue oni had some of her members try to kick out the live TL a few days ago.

>>3339530
I agree, but there just come the time when its inevitable so you may as well accept the benefits that come with it and ignore the bad.
Cause as far as i can see, their effort to gatekeep that subreddit doesnt stop it from becoming r/hololive but smaller

>>3339492
If you could have just been accurate in the first place there wouldn't have been a need for any of this. We've gone from a ex mod of the reddit said something all the way down to a couple agreeing with a post someone who was never a mod made that contained a whole range of points which you are cherry picking one from.

>>3339530
True. But niji management would be annoyed if they knew that their efforts were getting undermined by their own fans. It's the reason why having a talent like Coco is important since she can provide direct input to the management who might've otherwise been swayed by either a bunch of gatekeeping retards or a group of company ass-kissers.

>>3339530
imagine gatekeeping and still having a cancerous fanbase anyways

>>3338603
>The west is idolfag seiso country
Remember Towa and Aloe?

>>3339530
I agree with you but when talking about NijiEN, they better pander the shit out of EOP or at least have a fraction of effort in advertising them if they want to even be on the radar besides JP. If not, what was the point of all this shit anyway? They're no better than no name agencies if they they think that slapping a "EN" tag on their talent is gonna pull in the audience.

>>3339594
Proof or you're a faggot.

>>3339615
Imagine if cover graduated coco cause of chinks.

Them listening to Coco is the true timeline and they managed to kill the cancer that is Tia.

>>3339620
It's all relative. A few pretentious Nijifags vs a flood of unrelated board spamming Holofags.

>>3337829
People applied for Niji because
a) they have a dick
b) they weren't recruiting for Gen 2 at the time

I'm not saying most applicants aren't Nijifans, but you're also deluding yourself if you don't think at least half of the applicants are there because they likely thought they had no chance to get into Hololive

>>3339564
Well, it's either that or delay all the way until september, I assume there's a reason why they aren't debuted yet and rushing it is probably a bad idea, so between the two viable options (because going head to head with EN2 is guranteed suicide) at least there's a chance that they won't get completely eclipsed by the Vsinger.

>>3339699
You think holofags are spamming anti threads about their own holos?

>>3339723
wellcome to /v/ consolewar

>>3339723
Yes, Holofags are the ones making anti-Holo threads

>>3339609
Of course i would pick that point when being asked to show proof of gatekeeping by fans. Why would i show the point on how to improve the layout for the same question you retarded inbred?

>>3339723
How new are you my dear autist? hate posting gives attention to your oshi.

>>3339749
So your proof of gatekeeping by the average nijifags is two reddit posts while ignoring all the ones disagreeing with that point?

>>3339723
Maybe not their own holos but other people's holo

It's always civil war and the korean proxies atm are Kiara or Ollie.

>>3339674
> Artia was killed by her own discord mod hands nothing more nothing less . They planned use Artia live as disposeable trash anyway

>>3339777
Anon i dont know what to tell you, those who disagree with them are newfags who get into niji from hololive sub, of course they will disagree. Try to understand hololive fans in reddit are most likely also niji fans, and they will always call for unity and less gatekeeping

>>3339772
So why don't nijifags do that too then?

>>3339827
Because they don't exist.

>>3339511
I would think that either A or C would be a better option. Assuming Hololive Vsinger(s) doesn't debut until mid-June, if they debut their EN branch next week that would give them about 1 months worth of hype. The 2nd best would be C since you could argue that they can ride the wave that Vsingers debut would generate although that still means that comparisons will be made between the 2 groups. And honestly, that's the crux of the problem with option B I think. If there's one thing that yagoo gets right it's recruitment and assuming that they now have an insane talent pool of hopefuls that they can pull from, I can almost guarantee that whoever gets chosen for the vsinger spot(s) will be insanely talented. If I'm ichikara, I'd rather not have anything to do with that smoke.

>>3339827

Hating them is the same as loving them, both gives them attention so they don't do that.

Adding this rrat to why there's so many chicken haters/lovers

>>3339853
I actually completely missed C as an option because of the formating, yeah, what you said, July would be the best unless Hololive does another golden week.

>>3339874
>Hating them is the same as loving them, both gives them attention so they don't do that.
Remind me about the like and dislike in youtube are just the thing gives channel traffic

>>3339827
Not that anon, but I think actual nijifags are too cucked to post outside the general. It seems like threads for separate nijis, their 3Ds and reveals, are made by holo or unityfags than a pure nijiautist.

>>3339880
Not if they do another outfit reveal for gen 5 or announcing auditions for gen 6. It feels like it's that time of the year anyway for big announcements like that.

>>3339874
Probably worth remembering taiwan arc is probably the best thing that happen to cover as far as western perspective go.

>>3339820
Well it doesn't seem like the two of them are doing much of an effective job of gatekeeping EOPs. Looking through the page now it looks like a large amount of the posts are translations and translated clips.

>>3339943
Because every time they make a thread outside their general it inevitably devolves into tribalist numberfaggotry. It's the same thing as the pink cat threads, except not nearly to the same degree.

>>3327146
>>3327801
Why do people play up them like she's super popular.... her VOD count is really really bad since her hard recline... Even Anya gets better views than Hana.

>>3339982
What the fuck, I thought Lulu was way more popular

>>3339977
The should be good cucks and persist. Numberfaggatry happens no matter what. Stop making threads for their favorite chuuba because of numbers is fucking pathetic.

>>3339723
You think tribalism only applies to companies?

>>3340018
If you ask me who's a better eldritch being between lulu and haachama, it's gonna be haachama. She at least had the creative drive to make videos of it while lulu doesn't.

>>3339723
Yes

>>3340035
If niji could actually compete with holo here then there would be no need for holofags to fight themselves.

>>3339827
Too many chuubas and not enough fans to keep an individual thread alive so they keep it to their own thread, not to mention the people who post in the niji thread here are mostly holofags/don't watch niji exclusively

>>3340047
I'm a holofag but from the clips i watched... wasn't it the Nijinigger translators/viewers who coined the Eldritch abomination dead joke? From what i know, she didn't even have any idea that she was being viewed like that.

>>3340056
It's just the nature of idolfagging, if you've ever checked out the threads for real idols there's always people shitting on the other girls that aren't their oishi.

>>3340056
This is so funny but it's true.

really sweet thread and all but just a reminder that ollie got fingered on stream

>>3339492
Nijifags are liars whats new. Don't take them at their word.

>>3339666
>Towa
The retard who managed to piss off 5ch because they thought she was teaming on Apex, who also pissed off idolfags because they missed out on the offpako and pissed off everyone else when she lied and said it was her manager.
>Aloe
The retard who at first pissed off netuyos and then had her twitcast video talking about Chitose and Nijisanji dug up which naturally led to her getting doxxed, harassed and sent death threats by nijiniggers.

>>3340124
Put that finger back in the Ollie doomposts chad

>>3340128
I didn't lie at all I searched for the phrases he used and couldn't find them and then when he was specific about it I could find them and said as much.

>>3340128
Yet both their saviorfags are western majority. So much for idolfag seiso country

>>3340128

>>3326592
Nigga when the fuck niggersEN gonna debut? Their talents better worth the wait or I'm legit gonna spam their subreddit with CP ultil it got nuked

>>3340056
This. I really want to fight nijiniggers all day but it's not worth it. It's like taking a candy from a baby. I rather make fun of Zomcucks they at least fight back

>>3339976
You can only gatekeep your hobby for so long especially whey they become popular and yhe company behind it wished for the opposite. Its inevitable fact in life. And we may soon see the attempt to gatekeep HoloEN from vshojo by western fan crumble if the company allows it.

>>3340128
Did you miss that she got attacked by Hololive Gachikoi and seisofag for sex tweet and boyfriend allegation? Something about integrity of Cover company? Beside, she literally admit she heard the Chitose rrat from fucking 5ch.

>>3340190
You won't be banned fast enough and aggroo all the Nijinigger hugbox but because Nijimod is probably chilling with nothing to do and you being there at least has something entertaining to see, he'd let it stay for a while.

>>3340227
Too late anon https://youtu.be/UHj6UBVNGBU

>>3339827
Because I take medication and don't feel the need to shill them on a Mongolian basket weaving forum that can't even get more than 500 dislikes on a vtubers video after finding out she had a boyfriend. There's also no such thing as a "nijifag" I watch Ina and coco from hololive and a couple of indie vtubers like zombko, snuffy, bungotaiga, merryweather as well as Melody and Ironmouse from Vshojo on occasion. I don't watch Kuzuha or Mito because I'm not interested in their content as much as I'm interested in Rin, Utako, Chima, Furen, and recently Roha and Ban Hada.

>>3340293
>There's also no such thing as a "nijifag"
The nijinigger enclave on /jp/ would beg to differ

>>3340293
Being a holofag as in someone that just watches hololive and nothing else does kind of seem far more common. I think a good number of the people who watch Nijisanji also spend a lot of time watching smaller companies or indies.

>>3339977
Holofags numberfag each others oshi all the time. More important is showing the good sides of your oshi. The Emma August 3D was a great thread while the show was ongoing. Iinchou got shafted by a bait thread because only a troll thought to put a thread up.
>>3339982
>lulu was way more popular
My assumptions about lulu broke in her 500k milestone celebration.

>>3340377
It only look like that because we are at holoboard in holo dominated market. I'm sure JP site will have the issue with exclusivity

>>3339670
It seems you're not very familiar with how Nijisanji managem works. They can't just walk up to a popular talent and say "okay Mito now start two Dulingo streams and try to hop on this meme trend"

>>3340400
What happened at the 500k milestone?

>>3340464

>>3339615
Take a look at the state of Hololive in vt or their reddit. They have every right to want to gatekeep. You're literally no different from normies forcing their way in hobbies. Their Chinese branch soon will be rivaling the main branch for profit what more do they need from foreign branches?

>>3340464
Also she collabed with males and liked it

>>3340473
Jesus

>>3339982
Live Viewers > VODs anon-chama

VODs mean nothing

>>3340440
I meant they better change up how they handle NijiEN cuz that hands off approach is just gonna be a NijiKR at worst, or a NijiID at best which is embarassing when you're branding them as the EN branch

>>3340479
Probably something that is successful enough so they can show it to their investor. Otherwise i can offer no other explanation why they keep branching out to other country

>>3340541
Pressure from investors.
If I were an investor I'd be demanding to know why they aren't doing an EN branch when it skyrocketed Hololive.
And Nijisanji is the largest vtuber company in Japan so they should do it better, right?

>>3340479
>Their Chinese branch soon will be rivaling the main branch for profit
Yeah, nice profit. Pity you can't actually get any of your money out of there so to the main branch it might as well be a completely seperate company

>>3340479
Ichikara is a company anon. They don't care if their fanbase becomes more cancerous than it already is. Investors don't give a shit about that stuff. Expansion is the name of the game. The only thing they care about is what they can show in their next investors meeting. Also, never trust a chinese company when it comes to business ever. It's good to have them but better to have backups elsewhere in case their autism starts acting up again.

>>3340625
I'm just waiting for the inevitable backstabbing Chinese management will do to keep all the profits.

>>3340662
I can see it happening soon since its co produced by bilibili

>>3340534
NijiEn is probably the one branch that I would encourage Nijisanji to be more strict. I have no faith in western women not acting like retards so someone has to be there to tard-wrangle them. If they don't then the potential for a major yab within the first couple of months is likely. Someone could easily bait them to say something political like Taiwan is a country, BLM or ACAB. And at that point they wouldn't be able to keep the genie inside the bottle.

>>3340662
>>3340683
>A-Any second now! It'll be just like HoloCN you'll see!!!

>>3340683
Virtureal being co produced by bilibili is the reason it is safe. Holo got kicked out of chinkland not because of taiwan but because bugs cant share with the rest of the world and bilibili want to control the market.

>>3340878
If there's one thing you can count on, its the chinks inferiority complex to kick in. They've betrayed bigger companies for less. So the only thing Ichikara can do is to make the zhang's happy by giving them as much control of virtua real as possible and sucking on their micropenis so they don't screw them over.

>>3326592
GOMIKASU

>>3340793
If there're female nijiEN managers, I bet it will be more strict

>>3332039
They never lead the EN market in the first place retard.

>>3332466
I want to watch her but she streams too early for me.

>>3333797
I love vtubers and all but nijisanji never will steal anything from hl in the west. Brand loyalty to hololive is huge. Go to discord on hololive, youtube,twitter, it's insane. For those people, only hololive and hololive related matter.

And for that matter, Nijisanji could have 180k people watching them like in last year and no one in the west outside of nijifans would know. Things happen in nijisanji and most people don't know.

>>3333965
Anon... nabi is literally the mama of Ame. Of course this will happen.

>>3336741
You don't shit on them. Akane, Hisui and Chigusa are my baby.

>>3337829
Considering the other cases, most either are niji fans or weren't vtuber fans at all.

>>3338718
Nijisanji dumps what it doesn't? Even the ones with lower subscriptions got a outfits. Hell, Sasaki only has 3 outfits with over 500k while others with 100k have 10 outfits. lmao Ichikara only fired two people to this day.

>>3339229
how? afaik she only was rejected by idol agencies

>>3341084
They can just kick out ichikara and takeover virtualreal

NijiEN is fucked no matter what they do from now on. Unless something totally unexpected happens, it will be just another branch for them. Nijisanji missed the opportunity back in late 2019/early 2020 when people were still pumping out clips at the same rate as Hololive and both were basically on equal footing to the EOP newcomers. Honestly it feels like all of their efforts to catch up comes from external pressure, be it investors, board of directors, you name it. It doesn't feel natural and never will, that's why I'd rather bet that those two anons will finally get their desired paizuri.

>>3340662
Sounds like holocope

>>3341425
>Unless something totally unexpected happens, it will be just another branch for them
Good, I don't want them to compete with hololive I just want new chuubas to watch.

>>3339229
What the fuck are you talking about? You are wrong

>>3341479
Sounds like nijicope

>>3341596
I don't think you'll find many actual Nijisanji fans that seriously expect them to be anything on the level of HoloEN.

>>3339513
Suisei wasn't rejected by Nijisanji, she was rejected by traditional idol companies

>>3341621
I don't think anyone aside from a couple ironic nijifags and holofags expect them to be anything on the level of HoloEN. The debate is whether or not they will be dead on arrival.

>>3341748
<20k live viewers during their debut or I'll go bald

>>3341767
Imagine if Hololive scheduled an event during the debut

>>3341784
Guess I won't be bald then

>>3341679
I mean no way she didn't audition for Nijisanji since they were the agency known for adding indies with their avatars intact(Kuzuha and Ritsuki)

>>3341479
Not that it's possible to compete.
Hololive only really had 3 advantages over Nijisanji
1: Superior 3D technology
2: Having more permissions and more games to play
3: Talents being "idols"(read GFE)
Of all those only number 3 remains

>>3342046
I'd remove bullet number 1 and 2.

For 1, it's a given, but 2? How do you know that they have more permissions? Are you confusing it with "variety" as JP is all apex or whatever EOP debuff.

>>3342015
then you are just only speculating and have no confirmation of that, good job anon

>>3340498
If you’re curious, it was a 40 min stream announced 30 mins beforehand on twitter so I don’t think many people even realized she was streaming. I didn’t even realize she was doing her 500k until halfway through. You can see her viewers are rising 6k/8k/10k/12k and then she just cuts it. Not sure if she was busy that week or something? It was the week right before NijiFes after all.

>>3342046
He’s talking about earlier on. Those were the 3 differences between the two, although they didn’t really have the permissions, just played more games. Holo had a headstart in 3d since they went in on that with Sora. They didn’t start going hard in on the gfe till a bit later though.

He’s also missing the part where Holo members pander to EN. EN viewers like seeing English in chat, and seeing the streamer respond to English. You can’t just completely ignore them, and when the ratio is so low anyways most end up leaving if they don’t chat.

nice gatekeeping nijishits, karma is real

>>3339045
she isn't, stop spreading bullshit

>>3342472
Try not being an EOP normie and you wont get gatekept.

>>3335185
This, I don't get it. Also if they want a better shot at going viral, they should upload even shorter bite-sized clips instead of 5-minute videos

>>3342521
cope nijishit you will never be relevant in your pathetic attempts to join the enmarket

>>3342727
That just means I dont have to akasupa just to say hello lmao.

>>3342815
>not enjoying FREE money
this is your brain on nijishit

>>3338936
Send it to Mori, make sure it's red so she reads it. Would get a kick out of her struggling to pronounce it and then asking chat what it means.

>>3342970
wait what who's giving you any money

>>3340074
Lulu only just found out about it apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6axd7jdWZQ

>>3343012
Watch her say "What's a Nijisanji?" Intentionally/unintentionally calling out Niji and the non existing EN branch

>>3343654
Damn I forgot how much SEX her voice is

>>3342815
Ok, groomer