/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32981190
DESU she sounds much happier in general and still makes bank.

>>32981190
She always tries new things to kill her numbers.

>>32981272
it's only bad when you stop making bank, if not then you can let people seeth while sleeping on a bed made out of money and sucking dick, just like nyanners.

>>32981190
don't confuse delusion for passion.
t. been membered to her since day 1 of her opening it up.

gura? pls come back to streaming, you're still not japanese yet

May she achieve those big Finana numbers she always wanted.

HIC

>>32981272
She's only making bank because of merch. But when the people who buy her merch mainly unicorns and gachikois are gone then what?

>>32981190
Sounds like she's happy to be rid of niggers like (you), so it worked out for her.

>>32981574
This is a good point. I wonder how many of the collab beggars and virtue signalers actually buy merch, and I wonder how it compares to the unicorns and CGDCTfags.

>>32981190
Numbers werent affected that much
Her earnings werent affected that much
Her chat is the same
Her social media posts are the same
Fanart activity is the same
So what exactly did she lose, excluding a few schizos on this board?

>>32981574
>But when the people who buy her merch mainly unicorns and gachikois are gone then what?
More merch you retard

>>32981190
soon of later she will get harassed by the crazy fujos/yumejos, just take a look at how they reacted to her doing a duet of fly me to the moon with altare

>>32981794
don't count your chickens before they're hatched

>>32981965
How is it different to being harassed by crazy schizos and unicorns?

>>32982206
The whole OP and premise of the thread is basically that.

>>32981796
Good luck getting the casual viewer to pay for shit.

>>32981190
Yeah but if she doesn't want those freaks around, she shouldn't be obligated to have that albatross around her neck. She had a brief period of GFE, but she seems pretty much done with that sort of thing.

>>32981272
>much happier
>literally lost her shit when someone told her they aren't watching the homo collab and went on a rant about being an independent woman who does whatever she wants
>still makes bank (doubt it's bank)
Most forced positivity I've seen from Ame all year.

>>32984376
It slowly but surely affected her, from all her previous streams she would start the stream will a low mood attitude, probably because she had just woken up, but now we could see that she forced herself to be cheerful on stream, it's painful how her fans decide to pretend they didn't see this..

>>32981190
None of the myth girls joined to make the Holobrand grow. They all wanted to use Hololive as a stepping stone for their RM career.
At this point I feel they're more likely to graduate into Hololive staff ( Ame, Ina, Kiara ) graduate into RM career (Calli) and maybe only Gura wants to keep being a proper idol.

>>32984376
>Lost her shit
Now if that isn't the biggest exaggeration I've heard this week, I don't what is

What isn't an exaggeration is saying that the people who browse this forum daily lost their shit, and proceeded to whine about it nonstop, but hey what else is new.

>>32981358
Bro, nyanners and aethel are just coworkers and dating coworkers is just weird and no one does that.
For real though Aethel is funny as fuck. He's more entertaining than nyan and hes the only male vtuber i watch solo.

>>32984376
>lost her shit
>went on a rant
Never has there been a more blatant case of projection.

>>32984778
this is bullshit. gura was already extremely popular and no one had any idea myth would blow up like it did. if anything gura joined because she is lazy and wanted someone(managment) to handle everything for her.

>>32984376
This is what I hate about EN Vtubers. JP girls respect their fans and basically know that they exist thanks to them. Sure, there are some cunts on the JP side too, but in general girls are pretty respectful.
Now look at EN, fans are important only in the beginning until you incline, then they become secondary and "having fun" as a vtuber becomes the main concern, no matter what fans thought about it. It is one of the most selfish approaches ever and whoever does that shit, should NOT become a Vtuber.
>I NEED TO FEEL EMPOWERED AS A WOMAN!
Fucking kys.

>>32985140
>JP girls respect their fans and basically know that they exist thanks to them

lol, lmao even

women.

>>32985140
YWNBJ

>>32985513
Counter argument? Go ahead. I bet you're gonna pull a bunch of cunts out of your ass like Kagura Mea, Hoshikawa and all the cunts that act like typical western whores
>durrr hurrr my fans are lonely virgins

>>32984376
>>literally lost her shit
Timestamps please

>>32985806
it came to me in a dream

I'm proud to have Ame as my oshi. Unicorns and antis will never change my mind. Also just bought more of her merch. Life is good anons!

Yep they're all much happier. Mori doesn't end streams because she got "one guy'd" Ame doesn't flip at the drop of a hat and Kronii didn't leave due to depression.

If anything the one who tended to be the most depressed has seemed better lately, Kiara seems quite happy af.

>>32985991
Nice larp. Post a screenshot of the order.

to the threadreaders: she actually said "yay free money" when discussing mean supers and then dropped the subject. Whether that's based, freaking out, cope, menhera attack, etc is up to (you) but really tired of threadniggers replying to each other for hours when they didn't watch the stream

>let me filter my audience so i can have a more pleasant streaming experience in the long run
Literally based, everyone should filter their audiences. Imagine only doing things you think would please them, sounds miserable.

>>32985140
I wouldn't say they respect their fans more, they just know that a certain amount of fans are essentially feral hogs in vaguely human shape, that were for some strange reason given human rights. If you can help it, you don't want to rile these subhumans up, because they'll just squeal incessantly and exhaust everyone else.

>>32981190
gonna cry little bitch baby? improve yourself.
>>32984376
I mean if you don't like you don't have to watch it. Yeah, any cringe SCs that come my we're just gonna ignore.
>GUYS SHE TOTALLY LOST IT HOLY CRAP SHE IS SEETHING SOOO HARD. DID YOU HEAR HER FROTHING SISTERS?

>Tempus fans
Male gamers

>Ame fans
Male gamers

What audience is she chasing again?

>>32981190
>>32981272
she's literally schizo arc haachama
haachama used to make BANK during that time, but when she stopped with the schizo stuff she slowly dwindled down until she somehow clawed herself back up from the almost endless pit she threw herself in, haachama back in the first like 3 months of this year was literally the lowest a jp can go, even lower than roboco
save amelia teamtes, save her before more en gens come out and she slowly fades into obscurity, because even when haachama was at her lowest she kept going on and on, and I can't say the same for amelia

>>32986321
>Tempus fans
> Male gamers
Actually Gay men, twitter trannies and ex-niji fujos.

>>32986162
Yeah, imagine having a job where you can't just do whatever the fuck you feel like. That's no way for a woman to live!

ngl i stopped watching ame a long time ago because her latinxs were the worst fanbase on /vt/ but now that everyone hates her i want to watch her again

>>32986191
Let me guess, you are a twitter tourist retard that hates "unicorns" even if those unicorns are not really unicorns but just CGDCT enjoyers? I like how every mention of being respectful to your fans gets turn into
>Pander to unicorns
to you twitter tourist faggots.
Rushia had a bunch of so called "unicorns" and I didnt see a massive outrage from her ACTUAL fans after what happened. Some of her biggest paypigs even followed her to her next 2 iterations. Some fans dropped her, some didnt. But there was no massive harassement of any kind.

Ame has burned out quite some time ago. Why do you think she doesn't give a fuck about numbers or her most loyal fans? Simple: she ain't sticking around for much longer.

>>32986428
cope

>>32986666
HAIL SATAN

>>32986666
DESU the biggest harrasement Rushia received was from twitter tourrist faggot who shipped her hard because "they aren't unicord see see we are fine with it, be happy together" because they were so EOP they didn't see that they both asked to stop multiple times.

>>32986969
That is true. Virtue signalers made everything 100 times worse.

>>32986969
She got harassment from mafumafu fans and from general vtuber antis, but basically none from fandeads.

That hashtag inadvertently cheering on Russia as they started their invasion of Ukraine was hilarious though.

>>32986666
NTA but
>calling anyone a twitter tourist
>"muh CGDCT" cope
CGDCT has been run to the ground faster than "parasocial" on twitter ever since this board started using it as cope.

>>32986666
No massive harrassment
>She literally refused to do an open broadcast as Mike because of her fear from "harassment"
>She has openly talked about sueing multiple people who harrassed her for damages
>She recently successfully sued an internet service provider so she could get information to in act the previously stated lawsuits
No harassment by the way.

>>32987125
It is literally a genre or a sub genre (however you wanna call it) of anime. If you discovered it a week ago then I'm very sorry. I'm not an incel or a unicorn. I had relationships in my life and I still prefer CGDCT than mixed vtuber streams.
Girls are just good at what they do and it is enjoyable to watch. Males ruin that dynamic.
I compared it to NBA recently. Imagine if someone all of a sudden, for whatever fucking reason started introducing mixed NBA/WNBA teams. I would NOT watch that shit because I watch males at what they're good at. That doesnt mean that I'm in love with fucking Klay Thompson or whoever.

>>32981272
this, Ame is great

>>32987457
But who was behind the harassement? Hmmmm? Old guy from her own building that got sued? Who else? Any examples of ACTUAL FANDEADS? If not, then SHUT THE FUCK UP!

>>32987502
anon, what part of
>ever since this board started using it as cope.
made you think I discovered the term a week ago? aside from that, schizos or unicorns would be better off using your NBA analogy because at least it doesn't sound like faggots crying and the average person doesn't give a shit about WNBA.

>>32987591
Can you not type as if you frequently use twitter?

>>32987125
This. CGDCT is starting to lose all meaning here, just like "GFE" before.

>>32987591
>I can only site one cause and can not explain why anyone would in act a lawsuit against a phone company over an old man
>I must also scream that the old man wasn't a Rushia fan in hopes that it will get over looked that he was and I won't look like more of a schizo
Touch grass take meds don't act like your graduated oshi anon

Anyone still watching Ame at this point are bitter clingers that are just praying for 2020 Ame to come back. Most OG teamates already moved on to other vtubers, or stopped watching altogether.

>>32986813
This is always the funniest shitposting tactic against ame kek

>>32987788
>Touch grass take meds
Thank you for outting yourself twitter trash.
And Rushia was never my oshi. kek

>>32987909
Lmao imagine being so new that you don't know that /vt/ has been using take meds and touch grass for a while now or better yet imagine using twitter so much that you instantly associate it with that and constantly get told it there too.
At this point killing yourself is your only option fancuck

>>32985140
>Y
>W
>N
>B
>J

>>32988141
>using take meds and touch grass
take meds, yes. "touch grass and take meds", no.
so tell me sweetie, how long after myth debuted did you start frequenting this place? be honest, nothing wrong in being a tourist faggot virtue signaler. are you gonna hit me with L+Ratio next and say how that was also used on /vt/ since the dawn of time. Fuck off.

>>32986664
This desu. If a chuuba pisses off this board, they’re doing something right.

>>32986666
CGDCT is the laziest, most low-brow form of anime there is, if anything, CGDCT fags are worse than unicorns. At least unicorns don’t jump ship to the new FOTM every couple months.

>>32988323
t. shounenspic
The war ended a decade ago. You lost.

>>32988270
Seething this hard lol lmao

>>32988323
>People that enjoy a certain type of anime are now worse than literal schizos that would threaten a girl that has a male near her, in both virtual and physical realm
Yeah...great comparison anon.

>>32988270
Even if you were here before /vt/ existed, you'd still be wrong and a fag

>>32981794
Look the numbers are fake! It's not applying the story I'm telling! So the numbers are LIES

>>32981190
that's just your opinion (and like 10 more schizos on this board having the same circle jerk thread every day)

>>32988515
>literal schizos that would threaten a girl that has a male near her, in both virtual and physical realm
Unicorns have never actually done this, feminist slander aside.

It wasn't even the male collab for me, it was the fact that she lied about only collabing if invited.

>>32981190
Actively improved my self and stopped watching turns out despite her voice and hyperactivity Kiara was the best EN

>>32981190
She wont she hasn't ever learned best to just find a better oshi to be honest.

>>32981190
>most passionate fans
You mean retards that self-insert themselves into Ryan Gosling?

>>32984376
>>literally lost her shit
lmao stopped reading there. how do you people come up with this stuff?

>>32988913
Yes. She betrayed us.

>>32981190
>let me deliberately alienate my most passionate fans

Me-Mania was a passionate fan too.

>>32981190
Who gives a fuck, seriously? Every EN besides Gura is replaceable. Selen is already better and more creative than her, just move on and let her rot.

>>32988937
Didn't she tell chat to improve themselves and then slightly later on during an interview at some dumb ass con make a speech about how people who follow vtubers occassionally need to touch grass and even tried to make it a joke by saying some retarded shit like "just keep some in a bottle" lmao

>>32984778
Kiara is a lifer, her roommate isn't really doing anything anymore. (She just released 4 year membership badges).

>>32984376
>literally lost her shit when someone told her they aren't watching the homo collab and went on a rant about being an independent woman who does whatever she wants
Things that never happened Part 2

>>32988974
>She betrayed us.
Explain how she betrayed you baitfag

>>32989063
She tells everyone to improve/better themselves. And yes even herself. Also they fucking need to hear it https://youtu.be/C8fv8oGT_EI

>>32989063
Yup that is the goslings gutter trash oshi for you.

>>32988425
>t. ranny
The last good CGDCT ended 10 years ago, grow up and realize you will never be a woman.

>>32981190
Its funny she thinks people actually watch her because of her talent as a streamer (lol). Theres basically 3 categories of viewers and shes killed them all
- Goslings
- People that want to see the toxic gremlin rager
- Shipfags (of the non Tempus variety)
At this point she is just being viewed by tourists who only watch FOTM shit and people who know they should leave but are too addicted and invested to watch someone that appreciates them.

>>32989321
>liking girls? you must think you are one!
>>>/v/

Yama no Susume is ten times better than whatever WSJ shit you're reading, if you can read at all. And you will never be white.

>>32989391
Then why are you still watching?

>>32986969
On the EOP side that's true. But, her biggest harassers were from MafuMafu's fujos and yumejos.

Ame cute and perfect.

>>32989185
In the Marshmallow Q&A she said that she would only do a group collab with Tempus if invited. This week she announced that she'd be hosting a collab with Tempus. In other words, she lied and is actively pushing Tempus collabs on her own channel rather than just participating them, exclusively to spite the goslings who pay her bills and financed all her la creatividad projects.

>>32981794
Most bad decisions don't effect numbers immediately but cause a chuuba to bleed viewers over time like death by a thousand cuts. See Mori. Also like Mori, Ame is going to keep digging the hole deeper and deeper but in her case she'll do it by trolling, banning, and picking fights with her own audience. She'd probably be happier if she stopped streaming and became Holo EN's equivalent of A-chan.

>>32989582
>goslings who pay her bills
Surely you can prove this

>>32989007
i hate these fags but using perfect blue for your argument makes me hate you just as much

>>32981190
She gets paid either way with hololive. Looks like she just wants to have fun

>>32989007
You did not watch Perfect Blue.

Some hikki asses are just beyond saving

cuckmates will never recover
kronii shitposting is gone now

>>32989717
Most goslings are wagies.

>>32989056
>besides gura
lol, lmao even

>>32984778
Gura is too lazy to be a proper idol. Doesn't stream. Doesn't do regular events. Doesn't make music. Not an idol.

Our juicer just called Ame a "naughty PNG."

>>32989391
I used to watch Ame because she seemed like the most reasonable of EN at the time.
Guras speech pacing is fucking weird
Ina is boring as fuck
Kiara is annoying
Calli felt fake as fuck even for a vtuber
So Ame was the default. I realize now I don't need to watch an EN because they are all shit.

>>32981190
t. threadwatcher

>>32981190
No holo will ever learn their lesson.
See Rushia, after all she did she's still successful.

>>32989704
Me-Mania stalked her and tried to rape her, this is an undeniable fact regardless of the extenuating circumstances of Rumi egging him on

>>32986664
>but now that everyone hates her
Only catalogniggers hate her. I believe last week they hated Kronii, last month they hated Mori and a few months before that they hated Kiara. One week it was Finana. Whoever is the low hanging fruit.

>>32989827
>our

>>32989582
Kek I think I recall seeing the exact same comment in one of Ame's recent VODs. That user was also lying and chimping out about Ame saying that she would "only do group collabs with tempus if they invited her". Turns out she never said this at all (what a shock).

>>32990165
She literally said this.

many such cases

>>32990165
Holy shit schizo made stuff up to justify being pissed who knew?

>>32986666
>those unicorns are not really unicorns but just CGDCT enjoyers?
A skunk by any other name would smell as rancid.

>>32986157
>threadniggers replying to each other for hours when they didn't watch the stream
That’s 90% of /vt/

>>32990165
>>32990188
>>32990225
Her exact wording was "I'm not opposed to joining collabs". Her Tempus collab is one that she's organizing herself, rather than joining. You can argue about wording but IMO it's fundamentally different.

>>32989582
Still the worst thing about this is leaving 2 slots open forcing her other genmates to deal with collab beggars all week.

>>32990374
I'm sorry, but "I'm not opposed to joining some group collabs and things like that" does not equal "I won't make group collabs of my own and invite them". Anybody thinking as such and even go as far as to reword it to make it seem that way is completely off their heads and is simply looking at things to poke holes at.

>>32981190
the real ame fans knew what they were getting into from the start and are loving every cucking second of it!

>>32990641
Kiara dealt with that on day one. Showing that it's not difficult at all to shut down collab beggars.

>>32990742
She obviously picked that question (and another Tempus question) to reassure gachikoi, and "I'm not opposed to joining group collabs" is an implicit "no" to other collab arrangement. Either she was deliberately vague or she knowingly lied. Either way, she's really naive if she didn't think that hosting a collab on her own channel (as opposed to just joining a group collab on say Mori's channel) would provoke a negative reaction among her fans.

>>32984376
why are you making shit up
she was quite calm to people who didnt want to wacth the collab
>>32985140
ywnbj
also the thing you're reactiong to didnt

>>32991186
Why not just not have the collab?

>>32990910
Or she assumed wrongly that her fans where well adjusted people who wouldn't mistake her job as something more than that a job.

>>32990270
>Only my definition of CGDCT is correct and I say that it's an excuse for a toxic male behavior
Go back tranny. Don't farm karma points here

>>32986243
>gonna cry little bitch baby? improve yourself.
I feel so sorry for teacucks, they went from being best bros with chumbuds over the unity of idol behavior to repeating Ame's words while they sit in the corner like a cuck watching.

>>32991332
She's not being forced by management to collab with males. Most of her coworkers in Hololive do not collab with males. Her hand is not being forced in any way.

>>32991417
The color wheel of myth orange bad, pink bad, blue bad, yellow bad. Soon will be back to orange

>>32991417
>using towa for a unicorn shitpost

>>32991490
Why is purple off the hook?

>>32981190
>most passionate fans
wait.. if they're so passionate, shouldn't they support her endeavors no matter what then?

>>32991539
I FORGOT SHE EXISTS LMAO

>>32991539
Ina evokes zero strong emotions.

>>32991456
No one said she was its her job to stream she can chose freely to stream faggots and retards like you who fail at basic reading comp and try to make nothing from something want desperately to paint streaming as a fucking anime girl to some how be vastly different from flash streaming when it ain't idgaf if it came out of Japan or not westoids are involved now its time to educate and improve yourself.

>>32991539
I literally forgot she even existed lmao

>>32982213
She can prevent being harrased by unicorns by simply not collabing with males, she's now collabing with males and will not only lose the unicorns and gachikoi overtime but also have to face the yumejos and fujos.

>>32991710
Ain't happened yet how slowly do things actually move in the vtubing world? months? years?

What was that website that would track Yt channels, their viewcount, and spachas?

>>32983617
people buy pokemon no matter how shit it gets and cover already got to some degree into that territory

>>32991657
What are you trying to say?

>>32981272
she always seem like she's on the verge of going unhinged on chat to me desu

I'm still going to watch and support Ame, no amount of fanfiction that comes out of this board will change that.

>>32987788
Anon NTA but she has on multiple occasions on her roommate told her Gachikoi that she was suing the people slandering her and spreading lies about having a boyfriend, the Feb incident, abortions etc, basically shit that's said on Matome sites. None of her actual Fandead are antis nor are they getting sued and you are blatantly misrepresenting her words here. Btw that case the previous anon mentioned was from before she got fired in 2021 for an entirely separate matter.

>>32985140
>>32986666
lol at the tranny seethe in the replies to these posts
zero arguments too of course

>>32991756
It depends on who she collabs with, her gachikoi will no doubt bleed out as time passes but being attacked by Fujos and Yumejos is entirely dependant on who she collabs with and the fanbase they have built so if she isn't retarded she'll just end up with less money on her CCV and not facing backlash from Fujos because she though collabing with a particular guy who has Fujos and "slightly flirting"(wording it like this because Fujos and Yumejos are fucked in the head) with them.

>>32981190
Certified vtuber classic

>>32992019
He will be the last teamate and his prize will be fapping and crying simultaneously as Regis fucks his ohsi.

>>32981190
>deliberately alienate my most passionate fans

That's legit didn't happen. You guys were never anymore passionate than those that have no issue with her. Also reminder you lot are less than .025% of her fan base and membership.

>>32992721
Regis seems like a cool guys so I wouldn't mind that, better that she gets together with someone that I can see for myself over whatever anon your oshi is secretly screwing with behind the scenes. It's why Connor and Mouse shipping works so well, but I guess you would prefer to tell to yourself that she's still single or some sheit.

>>32992721
BASED

>>32992895
>Also reminder you lot are less than .025% of her fan base and membership.
The streams where they collab with males or announce male collabs get at least 5% dislikes. Also, of course unicorns are the most passionate fans, by definition.

>>32992988
>teacuck is defending connor
Completely lost cause at this point.

>>32993275
>he thinks he's replying to a teamate
You're beyond help i'm afraid.

Ame hasn't gathered too many goslings to begin with, to be able to creat a massive meltdown like the real attractive vtubers is not something to be expected from her fanbase
why so? because everything about Ame is fucking mid/below mid

>>32991856
people buy pokemon because they're passionate about it.
Oh wait, what do we cann this people in Vtuber scene?
>Gachikoi's/Unicorns

I dont know what mental gymnastics you use to even compare tourist to pokemon enthusiast.

>>32994417
>what do we cann this people in Vtuber scene?
Holy fucking ESL.

>>32981190
Improve yourself

>>32994499
Its autocorrect shit Mr. GrammarNazi

>>32985140
>all these homotrannies seething
Based. They hated him because he told the truth

>>32994667
Your phone autocorrected a word into "cann"?

>>32994793
yeah, fuck this phone

>>32989063
Fucking this. These con audiences hardly tune in to streams yet what Ame vented about sounded specific to her which threw me off

>>32989676
They make up a micro % of her income buddy

This is why you hire ACTUAL OTAKUS instead of these street camwhores who know next to nothing about our culture.

>>32994071
>mid/below mid
what you say be low key bussin frfr no cap on god

>>32981190
>after an audience that isn't actually interested in me
Wasn't interested in her until after she announced Worms with the boys. Now I am and I didn't know how much I missed.

>>32995063
>our culture.
Fucking cringe. ywnbj

>>32995063
>our culture.
Sadly, /vt/ is crossboarder central and has no culture.

>>32995192
Just like /jp/ are rejects scared out of /a/ and /v/.

>>32993275
>The streams where they collab with males or announce male collabs get at least 5% dislikes

No they don't.

>>32993798
I am in fact a Ame Member.

>>32985140
>Please be nice to our customer, listen to them and make them feel good. It's your fucking job
>No I have to stir shit up, make them angry and never apologize. My feeling is more important!
Western women in a nutshell

>>32986813
How long? Next week? Next month? Next year? Next decade?

>>32988911
Yes. Until this day I see no original song. She's hopeless

>>32989582
You should make an Ame lie thread. Like they did with Kronii lie thread

>>32992988
Vshojo larper detected

>>32986052
Mori got what?

>>32981190
>women
>learn
Western women, from the literal moment of birth, are conditioned to believe that everyone else in the world is wrong.

>>32985140
>check replies
>ywnbj
every time

>>32989514
I saw faggots are spreading fake news about her, make people confuse who she really is. I have to warn them

>>32989063
how is touching grass a bad thing?

more that 5k viewers right now

>"learns her lesson"

yeah no

>>32986428
not me, I'm straighto

>>32986428
>doesn't even watch Tempus
opinion discarded, typical gachicancer

>>33000895
Zoomers say it so we need to stay indoors all day and get angry at anime girls about it to prove a point to people on the internet we don't know.

>>32981272
Happier ???
Old ame used to exude gratitude, she used to sound like she knew she got lucky to have hololive change her life and she was going to make the most of it
I have no idea what happened to change her

>>32981190
cope and seethe

>>32981190
Qrd? Anything new happened to Ame again?

>>32982206
That's not how you use that expression

>>32981190
lol stop being pretentious. fat basement-dwelling fucks don't matter

>>32981190
She has always done that though. I dropped her like a year ago and it's not surprising in the least she doubles down on collabing with the EN guys and telling people that don't agree with her to just not watch. She's still gonna make money from people that support her because they think it's some epic own to incels or whatever the fuck the twitter cult says. Ame is the type that would genuinely trample on a golden opportunity just to shit on people that disagree with her, she's just lucky she can get away with it with this particular job, that's all. Same goes for any other streamer, vtuber or not, that just do a sudden 180 on any one particular thing but they've grown so much that any people leaving aren't gonna be doing any noticeable damage to their earnings.

I would dare say that even Gura would be ok if she just suddenly collabed with either males or some other controversial person. It's a "too big to fail at this point" situation and most of them are very well aware of it, which is why they just suddenly out of nowhere bring up guys to their streams.

>>33001724
they still can't get over the fact that Ame organized the Worms collab and put herself in a group with the soft blue boy

>>33002067
I wonder what makes her so adamant with promoting these faggots. Is it a sense of heroism, or a wanting to watch the world burn attitude?

i pray every night that ame has internet outage problem during her streams

>>32989807
Also too lazy to be improper idol
Still adheres to cute girls doing cute things

>>33002161
thx for info. When is that though?

>>32981190
Ame antis literally live in their own head, lmao
It’d be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic

maybe the mental toll that is the fact that she would have to pretend le males don't exist and she wouldn't be able to do videos with her new coworkers because of how extremely parasocial a portion of her fanbase does, and now that she decided to not go with it, she's also stressed because of how those people are reacting to her decision

>>33004279
hope she's in a lot of pain lol

>>33003602
I see you're evolving into the Deadbeat bunker mentality.

>>32988323
Anon, I hope you are aware that the average airing time of an anime is three months, where they air 12 episodes. If you don't "jump ship" to a different anime every couple months, you aren't watching anime at all, unless you're so autistic that you keep rewatching the same thing over and over again. The FOTM argument literally can't be applied to anime because, by nature, it's a media format that lasts for a short period of time.
Then again, I guess this doesn't apply to long-running anime like One Piece and Naruto, which is kind of funny because it might say a lot about the kind of people who use this argument.

>>32987125
Its an effective way of defanging trannies who try to strawman that people only dislike male collabs because of parasocial relationships. Once they can't spam incel at you they have no other arguments to make.

>>32981190
Newfags won't know this but Ame has always been the biggest unityfag. She would even promote JP stars while the other girls in Myth were gun shy about that. If you're getting in the way of her path of unity, you will be acknowledged as not wanted.

>>33004371
true, i sure love being a turd member of society and contributing to the problem!

>>33004612
If she was such a unity fag, she should not have not pussy footed around and collabed with StarsJP earlier. Not like it stopped her collabs with Towa and Roboco.

>>33004612
Shes the most insular talent in the company next to Aqua. She won't even collab in fucking Rust. Thats not unity.

>>32991653
Seeing her perfectly flat chest causes a lot of lustful emotions for me

>>33004612
>being pro unity about a group a faggots that suddenly appeared
>desperate to make it work for no ones gain but her own
Shes a fucking retard and needs to stop being a hero. With no footing to stand on they themselves built, the EN males are just pimps to everyones narratives and experiments.
Now idol fags wont watch them out of spite, and a large portion of their viewer base is propped up by tourists wanting to own the idolfags.
They arent doing yuri bait, and the "bro tuber" shit came late and flew instantly out the window because bros dont go orbiting girls. So its no wonder theyve flopped considerably hard compared to NijiEN.

>>32987125
>starting using it as a cope
>when its been around for over a decade
Get lost you ironic weeb faggot

>tells her audience to improve themselves
>fast forward a few weeks calls her gen mate a "fucking bitch" and tells her to fuck off
This is why one shouldnt go around giving advice, just dance like a good monkey. For the record idont give a shit about who anyone collabs with.

>>33000895
>go outside
>get killed
No thanks.

>>33005727
Improving is for the plebs not big shot vtubers who live off donations from the plebs

>>32981190
MONKEY

>>33001692
You happened to her.
She realized that whatever she gets isn't worth having to pretend to bow down and feign "gratitude" to whoever sends her tips.
She now knows she gets paid either way.

>>32981190
She would rather collab with males than improving herself to become idol. She is on mori path

>>33006205
What an embarrassing existence, leeching off of relatives, leeching off of coworkers, and even leeching off of lonely autists on the internet. Living a life that is hardly different than a fat neet living off of the parents, except for the anime avatar. A person with some class would at least be gracious about it, but welfare queen attitude must run in her veins.

>>32981190
>Most passionate fans
being the biggest shitposters doesn't make you the most passionate.

>>33005534
holy lack of reading comprehension. Everyone knows its been around for a fucking decade you retarded faggot. Why dont you go in the archives and see just how frequently it started seeing usage in this past month compared to the entire lifespan of /vt/

>>33002161
Wait, are you telling me she deliberately put herself on the same team as the guy she did the love song duet with? Jesus christ teamates -DO SOMETHING BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

>>32989668
If she is EN's A Chan, she'll probably straight up make holoporn with tempiss. This also builds into the rrat where whoreson is actually omega which explains why EN is so badly managed and so thirty for cocks

>>32981190
>chase after an audience that isn't actually interested in me
I am interested in her though, she’s the coolest guy-like member of Myth

>>33010010
Hi Regis,
We know you are interested.

>>32981574
not gonna happen
unicorns are a minority for EN
they don't have insane gachis who buy 30 pieces of merch or decorate their entire rooms with merch.
Because that will simply get them socially ostracized.
The EN fanbase finds it weird if you go gachikoi for a chuuba.
She will be fine, her merch will still sell, and unicorns will continue to seethe unto eternity.

>>32989668
arguably Ame already did this over the years, hence the lack of any significant backlash. Those who would not approve already dropped her.

>>32989582
>she lied
her fanbase obviously doesn't care
her numbers haven't even taken a dent

>>33004575
If they were really CGDCTfags then they would just do the normal fucking thing and not watch any collabs with males instead of screeching into the void.

>>32986666
Apparently even the so called "CGDCT" fans are a minority. They still watch her, they'll simply skip the homo collabs.
Life continues on.

>>32981190
If you want to watch a western idol who is pure, virtuous, virginal, and who keeps it honest with her fans, please watch Lumi from Phase connect.

>>33010688

>>33011028
Wow she looks like Ame but better. Thanks for the tip!

>>33011028
Is this literally the only art this shitty zero view has? It's the only thing her shill (probably herself) posts when telling people to watch her.

>>33011028
shes literally on a trip to europe as we speak. all girls do on trips is take shitty pictures and get railed

>>33010688
Who the fuck do you think is most likely to buy overpriced vTuber trash?

>>33010776
Pretty much this. Back in the early days I saw how she would snap at video games and some fans (that deserved it but a professional should not act like that imo). Screeching at piss easy platformers and throwing/breaking gamepads is not cute and its not "a bit". Bitch is simply psychotic.
Oh and compared to the rest of the girls both from EN and JP, she is basically a nobody. She was a poorfag with zero redeemable skills that somehow found herself in a huge company surrounded with talented girls.

>>32988974
> using Lars in that context
fake Teamate detected

>>32989056
> move on
I would, but Selen's gravitational pull is too strong

>>33004612
Anon you're not talking to her fans.
You're not even talking to her antis.
You're talking to dramafags and kiwifags who will get their 2 minutes of dopamine with every (You) they get, and then move on to whatever "drama" comes up next.

>>33005528
Tempus numbers are fine nijisis, go back to your discord

>>33011218
In Japan? Otaku.
In EN? Animefags.

EN are lucky there’s not the number of members that JP have otherwise they’d be forced to be more active and engaging with their audience. The less popular JP girls who get the same viewing numbers as EN don’t make as much money and do three times the work and don’t spend their time arguing with their audience.

>>33010903
People can complain when entertainment they like gets ruined. Did you tell people "just don't watch" when everyone bitched about the last season of GoT?

>>33012655
Fundamentally different monetization.
VTuber streams are free to watch. Your watch time + SC + merch buying is all voluntary and not required at all to just enjoy a chuuba stream.
Game of thrones you HAD to pay if you wanted to watch legally. And it's the culmination of 5 years of story, but the first part is why everyone was justified in getting mad. You can't refund the time and money you spent on it. You didn't have the option of watching and then deciding not to pay for it because it was shit.
Apples and Oranges.

>>33011305
This, but unironically. All myth girls have one or few good traits.
Chiken is a super hard worker, Shark is a cute and surprisingly professional, Ina is a good artist and Mori at least can sing.
But what you can say good about Ame? That she can go reeeeeeeeee or menhera. She's just got lucky. That's all.

>>32989281
>anons were gosling for nyanners
>
>anons were gosling for ame
>
goslings never win

>>33013135
What about member streams

>>32984376
>>32981190
We're going to get certified proof that Ame is a sociopath if she drags Kronii into the Worms collab given Kronii was just suspended due to the blowback of the Mori homo collab. And Kronii's big crime there was pissing off he homobeggers for trying to understand where the unicorns came from and being told they shouldn't attack unicorns.

>>33013478
Optional, yet voluntary content that you decide to consume or not at your leisure.
In anime terms, it's like watching an OVA. No effect on the main content, just some extra for those who pay.
Game of Thrones didn't have all it's episodes free with one paywalled.
ALL of them were paywalled.

I'm surprised this thread survived. Imagine beating a dead horse for 10 hours.

>>33013566
Unicucks are pathetic. What isn't pathetic about them?

>>33014675
>Imagine beating a dead horse for 10 hours
Can't be drama festering catalog retards. Surely not.

>>32985694
>using an anya file next to a ywnbj post
Ironic

>>33013135
Technically, it's been two years with Ame as well only for her to suddenly tell anyone who doesn't want to watch handsome anime boys to go improve themselves. The time lost goslinging for her isn't coming back either.

>>33011305
>>33013169
Your not selling it hard enough

>>33015588
I don't think she ever encouraged Goslings though?
The Lars thing was from very early on, and a lot of Teamates caught onto it really quick.

>>33013566
I'm a niji fan. I'm unironically a bit shocked and confused that Hololive is choosing to go this route. I thought being male-free was their entire selling point? I used to get absolutely crushed in debates when people would simply point out that hololive doesn't collab with males, that would be the end of the argument and there was nothing I could say.

It's strange because the Nijis have dramatically lower viewership than hololive does. So what is the motivating factor here? Is it because Ame is attracted to Vox, and wants to normalize males so she can have a cross-company collab?

>>32984376
Yea thats just called cope. She banned the word which is telling

>>33001692
If my audience thinks they have sole property of me and gets to dictates my every move, I'd be spiteful as well. No amount of money would make up for that. Poor Ame. Poor vtubers with toxic fanbases, in general.

>>33017925
Thinks ame is attracted to Vox. Opinion discarded fake nijinigger.

>>33013135
You can't refund time and money spent on vtubers either, even if the money was a donation (although if it was membership then you were in fact purchasing content). I don't see the difference.

>>32981190
feels good being a takoCHAD

>>33011014
Of course CGDCT fans are a minority. They literally don't exist. CGDCT is a term unicorns use as an excuse because it sounds less sad than "I'm jealous".

>>33018549
Because it was voluntary. 95% of their content was not behind a paywall.
GoT you couldn't legally see without paying. And once you see the shitshow it turns into, your money is wasted.
For chuubas, support is voluntary, so it's up to you on whether you're a good judge of character and have enough spare money that you think it's fine to contribute..

>>32981190
I don't follow en, anyone wanna give me the rundown?

>>32986666
unicorns aren't gachikoi dumb nigger
you're the actual twitter tourist here

>>33018797
CGDCT does not mean the same thing as unicorn. "Unicorn" is being misused as bad as "incel" by homobeggars and trannies so people started using CGDCT to be more specific on the overall feeling they want with Hololive streams. Also CGDCT enjoyers absolutely do exist. Why do you think Holo JP and and anime like K-on are so popular?

>>33019455
Anon stop it, right now this board is full of retards who think mixed content is way more popular than CGDCT.
Let them be, it's pointless to argue about.
Just wait and see how their numbers will "incline"

>>33018377
If you work and refuse to serve customer, who do you serve, yourself? Go back to be an 3 view indie to do that, this is a corpo

>>33019737
Thanks for proving my point.

>>33017925
Boils down to numbers. HolostarsEN is a flop so it's a combination of the whores in HoloEN that hate idol culture (Mori and Ame) and management who are forcing collabs in a desperate attempt to boost the star's numbers.
And it worked, the first collab was only on Mori and Altire's channels, and he went from having the least amount of subs among the holostars to the most.
I'm sure under different circumstances the Stars would be allowed to collab with NijiEN, but with how HoloEN has done everything to isolate and starve NijiEN, I don't expect NijiEN to give HoloEN any quarter given they control the male market in the west.

>>33019552
>Let them be, it's pointless to argue about.
you're either a retard, or a falseflagger troon
look at the absolute state of video games and TCG, that's what happens when you "let them be"

>>33020193
And what are you supposed to do, a terrorist attack?
The only sensible thing to do is move on and support creators who still agree with Idol culture like holoJP and let EN fail.

>>33020252
jfc why do you people like to exaggerate shit
just don't let them feel at home in our fandom, conflict and toxicity is what we need, gatekeeping is very important, even when they're already inside

>>33019267
How brainless do you have to be, to come to that conclusion out of that post? Like, you are a literal retard. Unicorns is even under quotation marks in the last sentence. This board is full of literal shit for brain ESL imbeciles.

What have I learned from /vt/ tourists.
CGDCT doesnt exist. Its not a genre of anime that existed for a long time or anything, its all a figment of our imagination. If you say that you like CGDCT you are a coping unicorn. If you say "I'm not a unicorn, I'm a gachikoi" then you are also a unicorn. If you say "I'm not a gachi or a unicorn.
Also, you dont get to have preferences when it comes to things that you enjoy. You either "eat what you've been served and shut up" or you are a crazy rambing schizo incel unicorn <insert other buzzwords here>.
Fucking twitterfags are cancer. I honestly hope you all fucking die. Karma farming scum fighting windmills at every corner. The WORST type of slacktivists that move from one outrage to another in a few days.

>>33021265
CGDCT enjoyers ARE unicorns retard

>>33020252
>And what are you supposed to do
Aggressively gatekeep. And when they pressure companies to bend the knee, you apply counter-pressure on companies to not bend the knee.

>>33021602
wow...actually wow. this board has oficially hit rock bottom... just delete it.
this is the type of tourist retardation we are dealing with here.
im screenshoting this as a proof of the worst ironic weeb twitter scum invading this place.

>>33021758
you type like a femoid twitter tourist

>>33021777
arent femoids supposed to be against CGDCT? im clearly defending it and making a clear distinction between unicorns and CGDCT enjoyers. do you even know what are you arguing about anymore, or are you just throwing random buzzwords completely out of context?
you are PAINFULLY retarded. I cant even begin to describe how stupid you are if this >>33021602 is your post.

>>33021711
I don't see how anyone wins by fans forcing anyone to stop collabing with someone they want to collab with. That just breeds bilateral resentment between the chuuba and the fans. Do you think anyone wants to entertain a group of insanw people who are ready to fly off the handle the moment they see something they don't like on the screen? And for the fans, how do they cope by clearly being hated by their oshi after forcing their will on her? The most logical move by far is to move onto someone who wants to pander to you without you throwing shitfits about it.

>>33021863
yes you're right that post is retarded
I'm sure k-on fans would be very happy if it was revealed that Yui was a non-virgin. They're definitely not unicorns.

>>33021885
>I don't see how anyone wins by fans forcing anyone to stop collabing with someone they want to collab with.
Everyone wins in that scenario. Including the chuuba. She might pout because she can't collab with Chad Vtuber but collabing with Chad Vtuber was a terrible, self-descructive idea in the first place. She wins because she's prevented from doing something very stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5769j5hKI

>>33021936
Or these dumbfucks could just google Aya Hirano's history. Technically she didn't break any rule but the public was still outraged and got her career fucking obliterated anyway because she couldn't control her cunt better than street whores.
>inb4 Haroohy isn't a cgdct show
Yeah exactly. And am I supposed to believe the incident would be nothingburger if it had happened on shit like gochiusa or nnb?

>>33021602
Get the fuck out of here l/a/rper

>>33022655
Everyone but the bassist

>>33021936
No one give a shit about your rape doujin. The origin of unicorn didn't come out of your ass, eat shit and die f/a/ggot

>>33023613
what do you think a unicorn is, anon

>>33018377
well if you pay me that kind of money they give ame i will literally be your bitch. you wanna see me constantly on the verge of killing myself? imma learn assembly for ya, boss. wanna see me sing the song you like? insensantez by ac jobim you say? bossa nova? brb boss, imma buy a clasical guitar and painkiller because that finger will get destroyed for your entertainment. wanna see me learn a language i dont care about to communicate with foreign coworkers i fucking hate? ok bossman, i will become anime for you. wanna see me hummiliate myself in front of millions? ok boss, i will do the dance moves. want me to take the soap? ok imma bend over now, just make sure the money you sent me is the right amount ok bossman?

>>33021711
Yes, I'm sure Japanese businessmen will be enormously pressured by you flooding the catalog of this board.

>>33024372
It's ironic. Most people would literally suck dick on national television for the kind of money these girls make, yet more often than not, the people that make it don't seem to want it too badly.

>>33025045
Money only has value when you're poor as fuck and have a bunch of unfulfilled needs. Once everything you need is there what do you really need the money for? Luxury? Not quite necessary and most people will think of it as something nice to have rather than being glad its there unless they're extremely materialistic. Things are different when they have a family though.

>>32984376
Love it when ame looses her shit. Apologies but please tell me there’s a clip or a timestamp of her little shit fit.

>>33023689
I don't invented it, I learned it
As a weeb I expect you to understand the meaning of "gachikoi"
As someone who indulge in JP entertainment industry I expect you to understand idol culture and types of fan
As someone who know about JP culture I expect you to realize what happened to themeaning of words borrowed from the nihonjin, and unicorn is one of it

>>33018962
Nothing, OP is among 10 people pretending they represent half her fanbase. Ame is fine.

>>32981190
I fucking hate her now. Hope she graduates.

>>33026284
There isn't because it never happened. The guy just lied to ya ding don.

>>33027652
Shut the fuck up homobeggar.

>>33027951
Go suck a dick you retarded cuck. Imagine still defending this dumb whore. What the fuck made you such a pathetic piece of shit?

>>33027779
Not happening. She hasn't lost anything from these actions due to you lot not making up any thing more than like 10 people. She lost no money out of this.

>>33028082
I agree, incels just making fool of themselves, hope those faggot unicorn killed themself already

>>33028082
>SHE DIDN'T LOSE ANYTHING HER NUMBERS AREN'T LOWER I STILL PAY FOR HER CONDOM MONEY
lmao

>>33028152
>incels
There it is. Go dilate you fucking freak.

>>32986157
>she actually said "yay free money" when discussing mean supers and then dropped the subject
what was the mean super?

>>33028019
So this is how you behave when you learn you are being lied to? You legit wanted a clip to something that did happen retard. You acting like a faggot just cause she works with guy that work in her own company. Do you know how retard you are?

>>33028172
Her numbers are legit the same, she avg. 5k -7k per stream which has been her normal for well over a year and a half. She also has not lost money in CCV or Memberships. She legit lost nothing because you guys where never a major part of her viewership.

>>33028290
>guy from her own company
You mean guys she said she wouldn't collab with unless invited then organized a collab herself? That she wouldn't solo collab with but it's just a matter of time and faggots like you will just keep running cover and making excuses? You fucking retard. She's a lying cunt.

>>33028218
Dude, you are the one acting like talking to a fuck coworker is sex.

>>33028227
Some guy crying about males.

>>33028457
>only proud cucks who pay for her tempus condom money are real fans
Okay teamate. LOL

>>32981794
Anon I'll give you the most important advice you'll ever hear

The optimal way to act, following game theory, is to reduce the amount of losing scenario's

What are those in regards to Ame?
>Loss of casual viewers
>Getting fucked by Suzan's algorithm
How do you prevent those scenario's? by having a core audience that will follow you regardless of what happens
The opposite of what she is doing right now

Now in almost all cases she will be completely fine in the end, the same way that "pair of aces" beats "5 and 7 hearts" in 99.9% of scenario's
Also this doesn't mean you shouldn't take risk, if a scenario isn't loosing it's fine to take the risk but it doesn't matter if you win by a margin of a 100 or a margin of 0.1, so why take the risk in that case?

>>33028510
You're white knighting this lying bitch because it makes you cry that muh incels are saying mean words about her. You little faggot.

>>33027966
>Shut the fuck up homobeggar

Motherfucker, you're running from what I said because I'm right. You guys are like 10 people, you don't make up the people in her membership or much at all of the supers. Ame is in fact fine.

>>33028708
>AME IS FINE I'M STILL PAYING FOR HER CONDOMS

>>33028457
>>33028708
>nobody cares
>there's no controversy
>ame is fine just stop stop okay just stop
If there's nothing to worry about why are you even in this thread spamming your cope posts? Just can't ignore it can you?

>>33028496
Because it doesn't matter if she does. Also you guys are misquoting her and have been for fucking weeks now. They legit are from the same company, they are going to increate.

>>33028883
>it doesn't matter if she lies i need to keep funding her condoms
LOL

>>33028760
>>33028867

Because you guys are openly lying about a things, acting as if you have any sway (when you don't), are acting like she's hurting financially (when that is no where near true). You guys are insane.

>>33029085
>what you say doesn't matter it doesn't affect anything it doesn't change anything so just stop just stop stop it
You are so fucking retarded. You spamming your cope shit just shows how desperate you are you dumb bitch.

>>33028692
You are acting as if talking to her male coworker is fucking sex.

>>33029213
After lying to her audience that she wouldn't? You fucking retard.

>>33029164
Everything I said was true, you guys don't matter.

>>33029286
She never said she wouldn't faggot.

>>33023689
Thinking time's over
unicorn is what 5ch called obsessed kaigainiki fan who behave like fanatic idol fan in Japanese standard, to a lesser extent.
Both demand purity, both afraid of romantic relationship between their oshi and another male (in vtuber case, what is shown on screen) and both pay more than normies

>>33029319
>you don't matter you don't you don't
Yet here you are white knighting in a thread that totally doesn't matter about some bitch whose numbers totally aren't affected you fucking loser.
>>33029372
LMAO you fucking cuck faggot.

>Detective outfit with Watson in her name
>doesn't play point-and-click games, puzzle games, etc.
what the fuck is the point?

>>33030924
She used to but then she found out she can get away with spamming Apex in the middle of the night instead.

>>33031116
investiGATOR was made from those kino streams. Then she become lazy