/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>32913973
Yes. Because dumb people should be milked for money at every opportunity.

Guess which other 2 holos have more than 1 tier.
Hint: they're whores.

>>32913973
I don’t get the tiers aren’t they all basically the same?

>>32913973
Having $100 superchats is unethical, this entire fucking industry is pretty unethical. Why you would draw the line here? Baffling.

>>32914168
Luna is a whore ?

>>32913973
Who?

>>32914168
who?

yes, why wouldn't it be?

the jpstars all have more than 1 tier though? why is it suddenly a problem when tempus does it?

>>32914258
Dr. Mori
Leading professor of rapology

>>32914168
Astel? Matsuri?

I didn't even know that tiers above 4.99 were a thing. Makes sense though as they have a smaller fanbase. But I'm more grateful for my oshii now

>>32914168
>2 holos
retard there is more than 2

>>32914177
Mori had a tier 3 for a while before she ended that. This is if you want to give more to the streamer while enjoying the same member content. Though, this just seems a little desperate to do this early on in your vtuber career. Do it when you establish yourself at least.

>>32914282
Are you dumb as Axel. It's not the multiple tiers, it's the high price for it when they just barely established themselves.

>>32914282
Astel got shat on (on /jp/) when he originally added the $100 membership

Most tiers are under 25 bucks. Does Vesper turn up at your house at the end of a year and suck your dick?

>>32913973
>150 dollar membership
>No perks
These Jews successfully killed HoloEN. I say we make /MANS/ an absolute shithole for retribution

>>32914494
Then don't get the pointless expensive one which is just for paypig fujos and gays to flex. They're going to spam akasupas anyway for attention, at least now that's one less annoying akasupa to grind the stream to a halt so they can thank them.

>>32914434
to her credit she actually provided content in streams for tier 3's for a time.

>>32914168
Hololive isn't just holoEN, retard.

>>32914434
Suisei has a 25 dollar tier with no bonus benefits.
For entertainers it makes sense. They generally stream alot less and you may go a while without catching one of their streams, and they streams aren't even the content you're looking for from them.

>>32914168
All of EN has tiered memberships except for Kiara.

>>32913973
ask matsuri

>>32914168
>Guess which other 2 holos have more than 1 tier.
Alright I'm stumped. Which 2 holos are they?

>>32913973
Does he do some creative content or it's literally just wallpapers?

>>32913973
having anything other than $0 is unethical. you waste (spend) your time. they already earn well just with ads and contracts. they should pay you

>>32913973
SHIT AUDIENCE AND SHIT STREAMERS

>>32914495
? No he didn’t lol

>>32914434
I wanted to get Finana’s for a while but her benefits seem too weird for my taste & I want to probably pick Aia’s membership but I have to get around not being able to buy them in my region.

>>32913973
It's not, specially when your dai senpai has only 1 tier and it's 3 dollars

>>32915570
2,4K members would like to disagree with you KEK

>>32915461
o sorry, I forgot that emotes and member only exist. I guess paying a subscription rate of $5 a month for 100 memberships would be worth it. as an example how much you pay for streaming (netflix) and how much content you have (30k+ content)

>>32914168
There is 6 in JP and 9+Sana in EN

>UGHH NO H-HAHA TEMPUS DONT LEECH OFF OF OUR PERFEXT GIRLS NO HAHA~
>tempus makes it on their own
>OMG HOW DARE THEY BE SUCCESSFUL AND MAKE MONEY NOO LEECH OFF OF OUR GIRLS NOOO!!

>>32915830
and not a single one in ID

>>32915820
o sorry books should be free because I am a student and have a card for the library, duh.

>>32915879
>makes it
make it to what? the flop list
KEK WHAT A FLOP BITCH GEN

>>32913973
yeah who cares

>>32915958
Indonesia is a poor 3rd world country, you know.
You don't see too many indonesians dropping as much superchat cash as westerners and the japanese do.

>>32915285
Matsuri and Astel

>>32915461
Are you from a socialist third world country?

>>32916427
Is membership in Indonesia able in first place?

>>32913973
is paying 62¢ for a membership ethical? I don't use a VPN

>>32914177
each can have different rewards, but i havent seen any vtuber actually offering something that worth 100+ dollars

>>32915778
Congratulations on your success, homofag. Now you can stop leeching HoloEN

>>32916334
>Makes mad dosh
>Over 2 thousand members
>Still thinks it's a flop

Lmao. Tell that to Yagoo, anon

>>32915658
Yeah he did lol
You can literally just search astel membership on the jp archive and there's isn't even 5 pages worth of posts, you can just find the thread where he had activated memberships

>>32913973
Shit like this gives corpo vtubers a bad name desu

Irys...........

>>32913973
Just don't touch it?

>>32915285
>no divide into "normal" and "better" members

this makes me respect Kiara a lot more

>>32914252
what?

>>32917107
That's a good thing though, because it means people who can't afford the higher tiers aren't missing out on anything. They've basically said that the highest tier is mostly just a way for viewers who just want to give them more support to do that.

There are people that have been sending them $100 superchats in almost every stream, completely unprompted, so I don't think it's unethical at all to let them do that with memberships if that's what they want to do. If they're not getting anything that the other tiers would be sad to miss out on, who cares?

>>32914168
Polka is a whore?

Hahaha, that rocks. Araine or however you spell her name is totally joining that.

>>32923802
then why not have a single low-cost member tier and let anyone who wants to give more do supas?

this only seperates those who can´t afford higher tiers from those who can and u get "poor"-members and "rich"-members, who can show off the divide with different emotes etc
or even worse, when making content only for higher tiers like Mori did back in the day

>>32926094
I mean, Magni is pretty upfront about it. I don't think the tier does anything special for any of them.

Membership content in general is stupid. You don't have exclusive streams on twitch if you're a sub, you shouldn't on youtube either.

>>32913973
idk, but its funny

This is the dumbest thread ever. It's a fucking meme tier that doesn't get you anything other than bragging rights. if you're dumb enough to pay for it, that's on you and bravo to boys being savvy enough to milk gullible retards like you. A fool and their money are easily parted and you've just proven yourself a fool.

>>32924165
Polka name her highest tier “Slave” ????
HOLY BASED

>>32914168
https://streamable.com/5tku6k

>>32926094
They get more income from memberships than SC. Astel for example who has a $100 tier, uses that money to fund his projects. He's said before if you want to support his work membering and buying merch is better than SC.

>>32924165
>treerrat
>USD
WHAT THE FUCK, LET ME FLUFF YOUR TAIL

>>32913973
yes

>>32913973
Nobody's pointing a gun at the heads of idiots to pay ungodly sums of money to vtubers, anon.

The niji fish has a 100 dollar tier.
There's no ethics involved here anon, its just business.
If it exists, someone will pay for it, might as well milk retards while you can.

>>32913973
Milking tweetfagot? why do you even ask, yes it is ethical and for once i'll knell to a homo, don't get used to it.

Retard Tax.
If [Being Retarded] doesn't apply to you, then you don't have to pay it.

>>32913973
No, especially not even you lock stuff behind it. Honestly distasteful.

>>32927062
>test subjects
>doesn't test streams on that tier
??

>>32915285
What is theoretically the highest tier of membership that a vtuber (any one of them) could offer and still get at least one member? It'd be awkward if she got two though.

>>32913973
This was magni's idea who doesn't know ethics.

>>32913973
i mean, got nobody to blame but yourself. they're pretty straightforward about it not being for anything.

>>32914065
fpbp

I guess this shitshow must be put into an end.
The viewers are not forced to pay Tier 4 and it has actually no benefits on having one. So it is not unethical.
Anybody with a brain knows that Tier 4 is only reserved for willing paypigs.
From what I have seen, the first three tiers are the only real ones while the 4th tier is reserved only for willing paypigs. Smart for them to do it, actually.

>literally Finana tiers
Nice homo you got there vesties.

>be a person with some sort of fame
>write my signature on a piece of paper
>sell it for $1000
>some obsessed/retarded person buys it
>"oh how unethical are you."

>1000 ars
>4 usd
why pay $100 when you can get it for 4 bucks

Wasn't aware there were tiered memberships on YT. Surprised to discover even members one would expect to use them such as Lamy actually have the 5 bucks tier only.
I wonder whether the cut YT and/or Cover gets from memberships is different from superchats or not.

>>32913973
Jesus christ on a skateboard that's a massive jump from $10 to $100

>>32918108
Seethe some more, this just reinforces the girls to collab with the boys more since therr are no issues at all kek

>>32927425
You can though? It's just a rarely used feature since Twitch already has so many other membership scams streamers don't need to use it

>>32918575
where are you getting these stats from? your head?

>>32944994
People always say they get a better cut from membership than superchat but I have never seen any real evidence

>>32948064
I don't know but my oshi posts monthly a handwritten msg and the post gets easy 1k votes in the first hour and 2k in the first 24hours which means there are at least 2k active members this month.

>>32918108
Well, they are sucking my cock, so I have to suck something back. Its only justify.

>>32915285
Based chimkin.

>>32915461
You always have options to.... not paying?

>>32939457
All membership streams are basically test streams. What he meant is that you don't get anything extra from paying more compared to lowest tier

>>32913973
I mean, is the 500$ limit per month on YT ethical? Is the 100$ Red Superchat ethical? Same thing here. They're pretty upfront that you probably don't get anything extra and the only tier is basically the previous three.

Basically, if you're the type of person that always send 100$ superchat every month like it is their salary, then this membership is for you so you can auto-debit the "salary" lol

>>32915285
Kiara is based for only having one

>>32915285
Once again Kiara proving she's the only good one in HoloEN.

>>32913973
Honestly I thought only women did shit like this. Thanks for making me a little less sexist.

>>32913973
no one is forcing it. Its for the rich. Join the 2.99. So what if someone is willing to pay more? Dont tell me this issue is like tempus, and you get angry at that? what if the viewer is a girl? Chat isnt completely male...

>>32915285
How the fuck can anyone actually complain about kiara at this point, she genuinely cares about YOU more than any other EN girl

>>32943906
Honestly mori isn't worth $4 at this point, I'm not even trying to be mean, her last album wasn't good and she made her entire appeal her music

>>32950301
Kiara will always be a shitter no matter how much grifting she does

>>32950301
She can care all she wants. It won't make me suffer another second of her.

>>32950301
If she cares about me then she should stop talking aber herself all the time. An no more Japanese too.

>>32915285
wtf i love kiara now

Can you really call them your oshi if you aren't even in their T3 Membership?

>>32952520
Yes. I prefer to buy merch, and thankfully my oshi has nice merch.

>>32915285
So many whores

>>32915285
The one good thing that came out of tempiss is that it made me realize how based the chimkin and shork is. Maybe its time I gave her another chance

>>32915285
Watame and Haachama

>>32914495
You don't watch astel.

>>32914732
your fault for getting the $100 option you fucking retard

>>32913973
No, but if you're a VTuber who makes a living by milking mentally ill and lonely paypigs you clearly never cared about ethics in the first place.

>>32939543
Depends entirely on the vtuber. Rushia could have gotten a couple of guys to pay >$100

>>32952520
Fuck you Speedwagon

>>32950997
>An no more Japanese too.
I will never understand this mentality

>>32950997
>>32950301
Kiara is pretty much the only one that tries to be a Idol

>>32924165
Why would you fake this?

I wonder if Tempus is now a bigger moneymaker than Myth and/or Council.

>>32915285
Kiara... I kneel...

>>32915879
>on their own
kek

Why does /hlgg/ get so mad about membership tiers? I still remember how you people had a meltdown over Mori's three tiers at the start.
It's literally just a superchat in slow motion.

>>32966291
Not yet. Gura still the top dog when it comes to that. But in a year if they manage to keep this streak rolling and getting more subs and views then maybe.

>>32968064
because everyone thought of them as underdogs since myth was brand new and there were zero envtubers aside from vshojo, when mori tried to grift it was rightfully called out and made her seethe on discord. you already make bank on superchats and views anything more than that is just ridiculous and seems like cashing in on your fame, of course mori would sell her gunt for $1,000,000 if she could but alas be humble instead of a fat piece of shit grifter

>>32960961
This is literally all VTubers who allow Superchats, Memberships, etc. though. They present the option to pay for things or tip them, it's the viewer that decides how much they want to pay.

I don't Superchat at all, and I don't think I've missed anything from the Tempus experience. They've still read and responded to some of my comments/questions during streams.

>>32914168
Most Holos have more than one tier and lock content behind it. Generally ASMR content

>>32966291
I love the boys, and they've each got some really dedicated fans with deep pockets now (the fact that someone keeps dropping $500 supas on them after just a month is pretty insane), but there's no way they'll out-earn a full gen of the EN girls unless they get a big popularity boost somewhere down the line.

>>32916598
something like that, I don't have to pay for health here if you're wondering.
>>32916260
It's your money, do what you want. I sometimes feed the ducks.

>>32948064
There are bots that scrape the streams for this little notifications saying
>Welcome to [tier], [NAME]!
Doesn't take into account those that join offstream. So nearly 2.5 joined in that membership unlocking stream alone.

>>32915285
holy shit even mori's membership names are lazy and shit.

>>32970671
I think when she used to have content differentiation in the tiers they had unique names. Then after like a year of that she made it all the same when she got rid of tier-specific content.

an?

>>32913973
No it is exploiting fans. Doesnt matter if most of the fans are retards that deserve to be exploited, it is still unethical

>>32913973
I would simply not spend $1,200 a year on anime men

>>32913973
Considering they all have the same tiers and perks and this podcast thing mentioned in some of the tempus member description it's definetly mandated by general managememt.
now i dunno if the meme tier will stay for long or not but EN3 will almost for sure have the same tiet structure, pay $100/month for the exclusive direct line with your oshi.
And people will pay.

>>32915706
This. People don't forget that the first and the best idol of the entire group has the cheapest membership out of everyone in all of Hololive

>>32950301
>she genuinely cares about YOU
Wait but I'm male so that means she cares about men which makes her a whore.

>YOU DON'T NEED GRAFIX LMAO MY 1050TI STILL RUNS EVERYTHING FINE
>When games are still being backported to last gen consoles because greedy publishers love money
You fags will see once games drop previous gen consoles and requirements shoot up.

>>32915706
>>32976977
TL;DR
Yes yes Daisenpai has cheapest membership blah blah, but that's because she has an entire paid member's only fanclub site to herself.

Reminder that Sora's yt membership was only created because Soratomo kept whining for it.
Sora always had a paid nnd membership and she didn't want her fans to have to pay twice on two different platforms. But we kept bitching, because we wanted to spam custom emotes like all the other fanbases.
So her cheap emotes only yt membership was created due to fan pressure, although she's doing the monthly wallpaper thing too now.
Nnd was where her actual members only streams were held until early this year when an entirely separate Tokino Sora Fanclub site was set up. If you are a Hololive Fanclub member and watched the members only holosummer bikini reveal streams then it's the same kind of deal and interface. I believe the Sora FC was the protoype for the main Holo FC which most do not know even exists.

In the Sora FC there are varying tiers in regards to frequency of payment; I forget what they are as I just paid for a year's membership though there is a monthly plan too. Having been grandfathered in from the nnd account I got a physical membership card with printed account number and a nice Sora poster.
Also since I paid for the year's membership I got sent last month a Sora medallion thing like pic related.
I can see more holos perhaps switching to this alternate fanclub system over time with YT being relegated to an emotes only thing.

Because Mori's got a deal with a record company like Sora has I say that she's proably the holo with the greatest chance of setting up a separate fanclub, she does have her own merch site now after all.

>>32986663
>I can see more holos perhaps switching to this alternate fanclub system over time with YT being relegated to an emotes only thing.
most likely what's going to happen
>Because Mori's got a deal with a record company like Sora has I say that she's proably the holo with the greatest chance of setting up a separate fanclub
i think being in record label has nothing to do with it and Hololive is just planning to move from youtube or at least for some part and Sora is Sora so she is the first one

Don't choose the top tier.
Easy.

How is this thread still alive

>>32924165
Polka sporadically has tier 2 and 3 memberships for people to choose. However, these options quickly disappear, leaving only a handful of people choosing these membership options each time. If you do choose the tier 2 or 3 memberships, Polka personally starts a conversation with you. For those who are not of the strongest minds, they eventually end up buying a ticket to Japan to meet Polka in person. Things may seem fine at first and you may even think the conversation is good enough for you to ask Polka out, but this is when things go south. According to eye witnesses, people who talk with Polka for more than a few minutes eventually falls into a daze and mindlessly follows Polka back home. Some of these eye witnesses tried to intervene, but apparently, the victim aggressively rejects any help and clings onto Polka even more. According to Nene herself in a membership stream, we can assume that the people Polka lured ends up in restrained in some sort of room containing other victims. Nene was apparently locked in a sprawling dungeon with others according to her descriptions, but her stuttering and murmuring makes it hard to be any more clear. One of the descriptions that Nene clearly emphasized was the overwhelming, intolerable stench in Polka's dungeon. The Polka that Nene also met at this point became, as she described it, "SUPER ULTRA HYPER DELUXE GALAXY DERANGED." Nene lost her cohesion shortly after, incoherently wailing about what happened to her while she was in that dungeon. As for what Nene said, I'd rather not say, as some of the stuff seems a little to much for even 4chan of all places. I'll just say that Polka becomes really, really sadistic in that dungeon of hers. Weirdly enough, Nene acted normally after this membership stream. A little too normally, in fact. As for what happens to the victims after this, we don't know the exact details. We know Nene seemed to be a little too fine after this encounter, but it seems that most people have it worse off. Japanese broadcasters have reported people with missing body parts and multiple lacerations running naked across Japan as if they were escaping from something. I'm going to say that these events were connected with Polka as one broadcaster also showed what seemed to be a person with "animal ears in a clown costume" running to the escapee in one instance. Japanese policemen recovering these people have observed how they consistently did not have the ability to speak either due to mental instability or their vocal cords being physically ripped out. A majority of these people also perish shortly after being recovered, and autopsies seem to be fruitless in determining specifically how they obtained the conditions to cause their demise. Most reports just end determining their demise from their conditions as of being rescued. For the very few that live, medical experts noted that their remaining body parts recover fine despite their horrid conditions. Eventually though, they leave the hospital without anyone noticing. As for where they leave to, eyewitness reports indicated dazed hospital patients all converging to a general direction, but the exact location isn't known yet as they disappear after some time. So, take this story as caution. Whatever you do, do not take Polka's tier 2 and 3 memberships when they become available, and DO NOT INTERACT WITH POLKA IF YOU DO BECOME OF HER TIER 2 OR 3 MEMBERS

>>32990572
tl;dr

>>32990572
Maple Leaf, is that you? Are you ogey?
I was kinda hoping for some Nene and Polka's Rust shenanigans from you.

>>32915285
god imagine being in Sana's $25 tier...

>>32970671
Everyday I find new legitimate reasons to laugh at her retarded simps. Cuckbeats aren't just clowns, they're the entire circus!

>>32999637
No, I don't want to imagine being extra moldy bread.

>>32915285
I thought they weren't allowed to do lower tier memberships to weed about gift members from their stream content.