/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Putting the red hat on a liberal

>>32851113
Omega wants to beat NijiEN in all categories

Omega will debut PEKORA'S MONKEY for EN3

EN is not Holive.

>>32851113
Because the JP model is not working anymore. The EN Branch has been in deep decline ever since Council. The girls rarely stream. And have been steadily getting caught by NijiEN. It's as much as much to slow down NijiEN as it is to grow EN. Gen 3 will make or break EN.

>>32851192
the first black vtuber

>>32851202
you're right, they're Hololive.

>>32851113
Mixed Gender is morally correct as it dissuades same sex relationships.
Omega now walks in the light of god.

>>32851332
gen 3 will be pro male and metaphorically fuck the homos on stream with how often they collab

>>32851113
>Is HoloEN officially a mixed gender branch now?
No, and there are reasons why it officially never will be (mostly because it would severely complicate the ties to HoloJP and StarsJP).
>Why is he throwing away the successful HoloJP formula to emulate NijiEN?
He and at least some of the talents think that they can collab with males at a more frequent rate than Fubuki/Matsuri/Towa without fan backlash, due to the the differences between the HoloJP and HoloEN fanbases. I personally dislike this turn of events, but the formal segregation and the lack of Chinese fans make it unlikely that HoloEN can just become NijiEN 2.

>>32851332
>Because the JP model is not working anymore. The EN Branch has been in deep decline ever since Council.
That's because EN never used the JP model. They've always primarily been independent streamers and never built a box to share fans around. Around 50% of all EN fans are fans of Gura exclusively and don't watch any other HoloEN streams.

>And have been steadily getting caught by NijiEN.
Because HoloEN has been resting on its laurels, taking way too many breaks and not taking their jobs seriously enough. Has nothing to do with NijiEN being popular considering NijiEN is mostly propped up by chink yumejos and falls into 3 view territory when that demographic isn't interested

>>32851113
>MAGA hat
Mori is a virtue signaling progressive who also happens to be a giant racist. She's a liberal.

>>32851332
Tbh I feel like them collabing with males will be much healthier for the fanbase and the streamer. They seem really happy interacting with each other which might motivate them to stream mroe.

>>32851113
>Mori weaing the fascist hat
WTF I love her now.

>>32851473
>but the formal segregation
Is slowly dissolving and it's only a matter of time before the Homos feel comfortable enough to pop in randomly on discord voice chat during the girls streams exactly like NijiEN does

>>32851380
>platonic connections are same sex partnerships
Perish shipfag

>>32851401
hot

Brother, be it Hololive or Holostars, they're both under Hololive Production/Cover
Essentially they're a single entity

>>32851686
>Essentially, they’re a single entity
Incorrect.

>>32851573
You're misreading what I said. That would qualify as the informal (de facto) segregation being broken down. The formal segregation (i.e. Tempus being part of Holostars EN, which is a subset of Holostars) is staying in place regardless because of how Holopro is structured.

>>32851550
Yeah at this point anything that gets the girls to start streaming more, will be good for EN overall. Whatever they lose in unicorns they can make up in a more general audience. The talent is there, but the laziness has crippled the whole branch

>>32851550
You're watching a png play Minecraft.

>>32851686
>Discovery channel is owned by Warner Bros so it's ok to have a nature documentary in the middle of a Looney Tunes cartoon

>>32851885
Does that matter? It's like saying the formal structure of Council and Myth won't be changed. Practically there are no consequences, the two are essentially a single entity as far as collabs and stream appearances go.

>>32851113
Uh, even Yagoo doesn't see StarsEN as following the JP model. Didn't you watch the 5 year anniversary video? They know there's no market of female vtuber fans outside of Asia so they had to make a Stars branch that appealed to males instead and since that is the same demographic HoloEN was aimed at, they may as well merge them. HoloJP and StarsJP on the other hand are aimed at the opposite gender.

>>32852206
It matters because the girls will never be able to smuggle in the guys to company collabs or Live servers which means they will always have to go out of their way to reach out and collab and those who don't want to put in the effort just to spite their fans will continue not interacting with the males.

>>32851483
>They've always primarily been independent streamers and never built a box to share fans around.
Ironically this is one of the things Tempus does well.
Despite the small numbers compared to the girls most of their fans are fans of the whole group with Vesper having the most solo fans and Axel having the least.
But otherwise they colab constantly and play together off stream and have built up really good rapport. It also helps that thanks to Altaire's never sleeping always ready to go mode and Vesper's 2view mentality optimization autism they flow into each other literally directing to each others streams and the like.
If they grow again its going to be as a gen not as individuals.

>>32851153
have you watched her recently?

>>32851153
She's a liberal!? Guess it's time to drop her

>>32851380
Inshaallah, COVER shall be blessed by the light of Allah and smite unicorn pagans for encouraging haram behaviors

>>32852522
It's been confirmed that Omega deliberately didn't create those barriers for EN that exist on the JP side. Mori asked Altare for a collab live on stream, there is no layer of management they need to go through and this is by design. The EN branch is in the hands of a woke troon.

https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1484017037303508996

>>32852206
It means that Tempus will never be in Rust or the Marika tournament or the Minecraft festivals.

>>32851686
based Omega

>>32852610
>>32852650
There will never ever be a female vtuber who is right wing. It will never happen. Sorry chuds

>>32852583
It also works well for morale. Tempus won't have the same situation that Myth had, where you had Gura at almost 2M, Mori at 1.5M, Ina and Ame being at 1M and then Kiara sad and demoralized due to being the runt of the litter who was still below 1M. The boys will be, from most to least subscribed, 15k apart, tops. No one will feel like the dragalong that's letting the others down. Also helps that because they're so close, even if one of them feels that way he'll have support in spades.

>>32851153
Should we tell him?

>>32851336
He doesn't know. How sad listen closely next time a certain someone streams

>>32852583
And this is one of the primary reasons I don't like the HoloEN wall coming down. If they become less "Tempus" and more like "HoloEN boys" then they're trading the possibility of full-gen fans for Hololive fans who drop a subscribe, show up to a couple streams, and then lose interest because they'd rather jerk off to live anime tits than watch an actually entertaining streamer.

>>32851113
Mori and Bae the only EN that regularly collabs with males. Why generalize the whole branch?

>>32853607
Dont make me tap the sign >>32853069

>>32852650
ikr we don’t have nearly enough communist oshis

>>32851113
Omega is making EN mixed gender to build to his reveal and be a part of council

>>32851113
1. Live and Stars is always segregated
2. No one is forced to collab with opposite sex if they don't want to. That's why even in Stars JP Izuru never collabed with Female.

>>32851113
It may as well be by this point. Plenty of the EN girls have, arguably, always been against "idol culture" (whatever the fuck that even means anymore). There is no plan, Omega is a humongous faggot and wants to copy NijiEN for whatever weird fucked up reason, but the point is that both the holostarsEN and the girls are seemingly okay with this, and 98% of western fans are completely accepting of it. Honestly, I'm surprised most of the girls haven't been more blatant with it. It's always a sweet karaoke there, a good stream here and there, and then BAM! they hit you with the "YEAH WELL I'M COLLABING WITH A BOY AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH IT THEN YOU BUNCH OF STUPID CUNTS".

Which works fine by me, I only watch IRyS and the moment she starts doing that shit too I'm gonna dip and just fuck off to watch normal twitch streamers. The more open they are about how cunty they can be, the easier of a job I have discarding them as streamers. Because by this point they're not even streamers, they're just high school girls feeding drama on purpose. And if this is what they wanna go for, good. Fuck 'em. It's on them that they'd be adding cringe drama shit even more to vtubers and creating an even bigger stigma.

I'll say this: whoever the fuck Omega is needs to get blasted in the kneecaps with a baseball bat. What an obnoxious fucking cunt piece of shit waste of resources he is.

>>32854929
I never watched female streamers before vtubing and all HoloEN is doing right now is reminding me why that was the case.

>>32851113
Not even sure it's Omega at this point. The common denominator seems to be Mori honestly. She's in every Tempus group collab so far and it all began with her and her lackeys. She's just gonna pull more and more into it until the whole branch collapses into shit.

>>32851332
I hope it doesn’t and the criticism only makes them feel less of a desire to stream :)

>>32851153
>Lives in texas
>Liberal
Kek

>>32854929
>>32855009
Come home to small corpos (not Cuck Connect or Boyfriend Project though) and indies.

>>32852350
>feels good to be a HoloJPFAG!
EN should be disbanded and let them Join Vshojo and let them runt like the exJPs for all I care!

>>32855212
Remember when she said she wouldn't collab unless she had a reason to and she wanted to let Tempus have room to do their own thing? What a fucking lying bitch she is.

>>32855398
Dont go deep into indies, they usually graduate after a few months.

>>32855516
That’s why you groom them.

>>32855296
US states aren't monoliths
biden got over 5 million votes in texas even if he lost the state, same with trump getting over 6 million votes in california

>>32855296
More likely than you think

>>32854929
>"YEAH WELL I'M COLLABING WITH A BOY AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH IT THEN YOU BUNCH OF STUPID CUNTS".
Literally nobody has said this.
>>32855504
>unless she had a reason to
Correct. The reason? She wanted to.
>to let Tempus have room to do their own thing
She did, she has, she does. One of the most subbed ENs helping to promote some of the least subbed ENs via colab is hardly a bad thing for the branch.

>>32856071
Keep at it and see where EN ends up.

>>32855296
>Dallas and Huston
>Red
kek

>>32856071
>Correct. The reason? She wanted to.
Interesting cope. So it was just a lie to say she'd only collab if she had a good reason?

>>32856071
>She did, she has, she does.
Nah, if she did she wouldn't be collabing semi weekly with them.

>>32851113
>what is omegas plan?
pretty sure the end goal is that porno he tried to star in but got rejected due to tiny asian penis

>>32855296
Did you know her mom is from California and lives there again now.

>>32854005
They'll never learn, they need to believe that secretly all women really want to be their tradwives, and it's just the woke leftists making all the women not want to interact with them, not their horrific personalities.

>>32854431
To give helicopter ride correction(s) to, maybe.

>>32851512
So what you are telling me is, she is the reincarnation of George Wallace?

>>32856178
Overdramatic.
>>32856247
Wanting to isn't a good reason?

>>32853069
>>32857036
I mean, MAAAAYBE, possibly Umari Tomoe might be conservative but it's still a huge maybe.

>>32852093
Why are you retards so dogshit at analogies? Stars and Live both provide the same service, a far more apt comparison would be saying they're both cartoons, and having one drop into the other cartoon on occasion. Like how Freakazoid would appear in Animaniacs.

>>32857036
Woke leftists and trads are both fringe and cringe minorities who should never be taken seriously.

>>32857287
She looks like someone who talks fondly of Rhodesia

>>32857287
>debuting the day before 9/11
she's either some sort of conservative, taking the piss, or pandering harder than pippa

>>32851153
She's a fucking trumper like you. But you don't watch her videos so i don't expect you to know shit about her other than the bullshit you read on vt.

>>32857610
Only people who can resist endless MSM 'oy vey remember jan 6 the boomer holocaust!" gaslighting can support Trump and I doubt Mori is informed enough to be able to tell MSM narratives are horseshit

>>32853069
Anyone in a corpo is either apolitical or vaguely liberal (but not hard left). Indies range from communists on one end to that one /pol/ adjacent chuuba who was at January 6th

>>32857725
>instead of rotting my brain on MSNBC/CNN i rot my brain on fox news and ben shapiro

>>32858023
Nice try

>>32858113

>>32857725
she lived in Japan, and moved back to Texas, she hasn't consumed anything resembling liberal media in years. she couldn't tell someone was falseflagging as a butthurt jew when she had her shekel yab, she constantly dropped "hehe take the red pill, I'm gonna redpill Gura" jokes a few months ago, and she bitches about PC and cancel culture.

>>32853832
It's just what we do on this board.

>>32858174
She's a victim of cancel culturr becsuse of that lemur reference. I Can't believe these troons on twitter associated Lemur to black people just because Mori raps. Christ you cant make this shit up.

>>32858174
Probably because she's getting directly harassed by woke troons over being a white rapper. She's signalled support for woke causes in the past so I doubt she has any personal problems with clown world

>>32854929
>98% of western fans
>r*ddit-spacing
Go the fuck back faggot

>>32851890
>>32851550
Ha, no it wont.
t. Niji

>>32858506
Thats just using paragraphs, not reddit spacing, retard

>>32852747
Kronii confirmed that management was pushing for collabs.
It's obvious it's because Tempus is bombing so omega wants them to leech off hololive to boost their numbers.

>>32851113
Omega can try all he wants. But it's not like he can whitelist Tempus into playing on the same Minecraft server as Council and Myth or give them access to Rust and whatever else sees regular cross-branch play.

>>32857571
I mean if we're going purely by her appearance she looks more like she fondly remembers charging up San Juan Hill and keeps the ears of dead Mexicans in a jar somewhere.

Its because everyone shit on tempus before release. They never had a chance. So some of the girls wanted to help out their coworkers.

>>32859057
>But it's not like he can whitelist Tempus into playing on the same Minecraft server as Council and Myth
Hold my beer

>>32851113
>>32859057
Yeah, that's the problem with mixing the branches. Stars will never be allowed to play in HoloJP servers or take part in HoloJP events for obvious reasons, therefore HoloEN will be stuck in this limbo between two worlds that will never really meet each other. If that's what they're really going for, HoloEN is bound to fracture. Stupid move, but then again the EN branch has always felt directionless.

>>32859302
Goodluck penetrating the JP paradise
>As if the JPFAGS will let you
>Or you want another Kyoto Animation Incident?

>>32851153
she's a redneck

>>32859187
They didn't shit on Tempus they shat on their ugly models

>>32859767
HoloEN should just detach themselves from HoloJP
>Let them poison their own well

>>32859302
>The level of meltdown it would cause due to the servers connection to JPs

>>32858794
She did not say that, actually. That's misrepresenting what she said in that stream.

>>32859774
It's not even about the fans, members like Miko will just put a veto on it. If it didn't happen for StarsJP there's no reason they'll make it happen for EN.
That's just a thing the EN management will have to deal with, if that's what they want for the future of the branch.

Nobody knows what Omega does, and for all you know, it could be (and likely, is) a sock puppet account for the managers. Yet you retards will try to pin anything on them.

>>32858725
Blogposting is just as bad as your bullshit 98% you pulled from your gaping ass troon. Go the fuck back faggot.

>>32861014
It’s Loserbait he got jealous of Enma fanart and ruined Council’s debut by fellating himself with cringe chunni lore, and is probably a fucking troon now.

>>32861014
>a person with a consistent viewpoint and message and style is actually a group of people who don't think any of those things at all
Why are you so upset that you have to come up with these conspiracies? How does any of this effect you?

>>32861014
Omega is the head of the EN branch. He's the guy Marine talks about here

https://youtu.be/DFfutMHp7io

>>32851113
>What is Omegas plan here?
Destroy vtubing

>>32851113
so like, what about the rest of her FRIENDS. is the merch store exclusively jsut her?

>>32855296
Singing rap is the most liberal shit ever, retard

>>32854929
based

>>32859302
JP management would never allow it

>>32861554
There's really no point arguing with these people who somehow think Mori isn't a liberal because they themselves are liberals despite presumably identifying as something else. It's like retards who think they are conservative and get shocked when Eminem doesn't like conservatives even though the reason he's famous is conservatives hated him. Trump's a liberal too so if they are using him as their standard for "conservative" then why not let them think Mori is too. It's all the same shit.

>>32851483
>falls into 3 view territory when that demographic isn't interested
/vt/ threadwatcher meme. Right now everybody streaming is between 1k-7k, and there's like seven people streaming (who are different from like the other ten who streamed with those numbers three hours earlier lmao).

Holofags have terminal number brainrot because extreme box-pushing + the covid algorithm accustomed them to a dead schedule broken up by one girl pulling 5 digits for two hours then logging off, but the latter was never sustainable and as for the former, HoloEN can barely show up for work, nevermind do hardcore box-pushing like HoloJP does.

Ultimately this is what it boils down to, not unicorns or men or whatever, 2021 Myth was already burnt out and they got a successor gen almost solely comprised by people who didn't give a single fuck.

>>32861907
Pretty much this. Imagine calling yourself conservative while listening to (((rap))), those retards are pretty much electionfags who got in here just for the memes

>>32855296
>white woman with dried eggs and no family, fetishizing race-mixing and globe-trotting with open disgust for the culture she lives in and love for the culture of a people that hate her that she has made her entire identity despite having no ties to them, there's literally no evidence she's ever even talked to one of them
>not liberal
???
It's not a coincidence that the meme for liberal white women is named after her.

>>32862068
>Ultimately this is what it boils down to, not unicorns or men or whatever, 2021 Myth was already burnt out and they got a successor gen almost solely comprised by people who didn't give a single fuck.
True. EN was already a shitshow, it just became a bigger one when the talents decided to use Tempus to stir shit up. It hurts Tempus too since they've generally been solid (apart from Magni dragging a hyper feminist libtard fleshtuber on to his stream, what the fuck?). All their content is getting completely overshadowed by a Holo fanbase pissed off that the homos are being forced on them.

>>32852650
>her most famous RM cover was a trans song
anon . . . .

>>32855296
Texas has been getting flooded with leftie Cal refugees for over 6 years, that shit is going to turn blue eventually.

>>32863591
rant time: that's not true. Californians comprise of 11% of total American transplants to Texas. But excluding Texans, they make up 13% of the American population. So they actually are a smaller than average proportion of Texas transplants. They just seem like a lot because the raw number of them is so high

>>32854929
based

>>32851153

>>32854929
>The more open they are about how cunty they can be, the easier of a job I have discarding them as streamers.

that's basically what I did and at this point, I dropped almost all of HoloEN

>>32851153
thats the joke

commie niji vs nazi holo
I love this timeline.....

Certainly aren't copying their work ethic

>>32868582
The irony. As holoEN has three commie-tier people, and NijiEN has people like Rosemi and Enna

>>32853716
This, the boys need protecting from the girls, not the other way around.

>>32868925
When the barrier between JP and EN came down for Stars I gave them a chance and was hopeful they'd be a better EN but then they chose to be the girls' fucktoys and just became EN 2.0 and I don't give a fuck and hope they all burn.

>>32868925
they don't say no to collabs either. either it's on everybody or management is pushing the idea hard

>>32868582
>>32868828
>it's just like my heckin politics!!!
Both of you hang yourselves.

>>32851550
No it won’t. It’ll kill the existing fanbase and the lazy whores won’t stream any more than they are now. And once their momentum collapses and the novelty is gone their growth will stagnate and they’re finished. Dead in the water.

>>32868828
Rosemi and Enna are PC wtf you talking about

>>32854758
Izuru has collabed with one (1) female, to my knowledge it was fairly recent.

>>32852093
Do you know how many nature documentary episodes there were in both Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbera cartoons you fucking child? Because there were quite a few.

>>32851332
After the decision to hire Tempus, I don't think anyone there has a brain, and thinks about what needs to be improved

>>32854929
Based take. For me I've just started watching more JPs. I've been doing my reps and have an easier time understanding what they're saying. Still can't keep up with some of the faster speaking ones though.

>>32875561
This is the way

>>32854929
HoloEN completely abandoned the one and only thing that made them so big and influential - idol culture in English. This utter display of stupidity is rare to see and it baffles me. That was their thing, their spark, their everything and they completely shat on it to become a copy of Nijisanji, a LESSER company in the West. They're now completely generic and low effort nothingness.
Fuck maletubers. Maletubers shouldn't exist, and collabs obviously even less so. This whole thing is a fucking nightmare of baffling decisions, shitting on fans and utter self destruction. Fuck Cover and fuck Hololive. Let them sink in the pool of shit they've created for themselves. I completely disengaged from them with the sole exception of Gura, unless she fucks up as well. Nijisanji was and is shit, Hololive rendered itself into shit, and Vshoujo is Vshoujo. There's barely any difference between all three in my mind. If you still have some sanity left you'll start searching for greener pastures, and trust me there's good stuff out there. Let this miserable, treacherous company bleed to death.

I wonder if all this was what they were saying during Stars 3rd gen debut when FBK, Matsuri, the IDs, and Stars 3rd gen started collabing and making their own collab units.
Kinda based for Ame, Mori, and Bae to follow their most UNITY senpais.
>the separation will be gone and you'll see then!
lol

>>32855009
They told me vtuber are just another kind of ethots but I didn't listen. Time is proving they were right

>>32855504
She lied to Kiara, why do you think she can't do the same to us?

>>32856485
Turning Hololive into a woke company, like they did with other Japs corpo. A big example is Sony

>>32851113
>Why is he throwing away the successful HoloJP formula to emulate NijiEN?
Because NijiEN is inclining while HoloEN is declining and Luxiem is a massive success

Why wouldn't he change things up if they aren't working?

>>32872867
Rio is a man

>>32858794
Fake. She actually had fun with it, instead of radio silent like Moomer

>>32859302
Tempus guys were asking for that. I saw it in their thread

>>32861014
Omega is real and he should die ASAP

>>32876201
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream

>>32876419
That anon may be referring to the /mans/ thread or whatever, which is in line with beggar behavior. They like to force things.

>>32876467
Yeah, go to /mans/ and see what they're doing now. They're children of /stars/: not to the point of hate, but they'd rather no mix with Holos whatsoever.
Having said that, you have no idea how deeprooted the hate for Holos are in the Stars fanbase in general except some like FBK and Matsuri. These "homobeggars" out in the catalogue don't watch streams.

>>32876745
I'm a fan of the Stars more so than the girls, but I just don't go to the mans thread. I was around before it was started and I knew it'd just be a magnet for the worst types to congregate. I'd assumed most of the beggars we usually had in the stars thread that would manager post migrated there since that kind of posting died down a little since they debuted. I'd genuinely be surprised if what you said is true about them preferring to keep their distance from the girls, but I'll take your word for it.

>>32851113
HoloEN just became discount NijiEN and you will love it

>>32877371
Just go visit and see for yourself instead of taking a random anon's word in a Chinese clay-molding forum, dumbass. The managerpostings died in /stars/ because catalogue is better, not because they migrate.

>>32851113
Always has been since holoproEN tweeted

>>32877371
there's more horny posters on /MANS/ than collab beggars especially in the dead hours where it's all just fucking fujo/yume shit

otherwise they're a pacifist group, they report bait and don't otherwise give a shit if their boys collab or not

Does anyone have that video showing omegas blacked vtuber fantasy projects around the time of amegeddon, I saw it posted once and can't find it - I think it gives plenty of context to this thread.

>>32863784
Undocumented illegal immigrant is fucking high

>>32855296
There are plenty of them in Texas