/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The people here are paranoid freaks. EN 2 will have a bunch more nearly perfect girls/idols and people will still shitpost about how they'll totally hire niggers and trannies next gen and how it's all been a fluke. It will never end.

Watching EN is like watching anime dubbed. It's that simple.

Anon, 90% of people on this board watch nothing but HoloEN. All that we other 10% ask is that you guys don't constantly flood the catalog with shit threads about them like this one

>>3248937
No anon you know damn well that's not how some people here act and I think you misunderstood who I'm addressing this towards. If you're just not interested, then that's fine.
I'm talking to the "all western women are whores" people, the constant Kiara anti thread posters, and the retards on ホロライブ who decided to make a JP split thread and live in denial because they can't even handle being forced to acknowledge EN's existence.

>>3248719
Sorry to say but current EN is really catering mostly to EOPs and lacks the authentic experience of a actual JP waifus. The girls really feel more like the best of twitch streamers and not virtual idols. I started with EN but since I actually understand enough JP to get by I started watching the JP girls too. Can confirm that the feel of the JP girls are totally different. Yes I can understand what the EN girls say more accurately but they all have no onscreen chemistry and their presentation feels rather lackluster and kind of forced. There is just something unnatural about it. Not that some JPs are not the same way, but the best JP ones just have a much more polished presentation that flows more naturally. There reactions are also more akin to friends you are hanging out with rather than a streamer talking to strangers in chat. Anyways, it's not something people who can't into the language and culture will understand you have to experience it for yourself. But the current EN gen really does not convey the authentic Hololive experience that the brand is known for.

>>3248719
Will never watch EN
Will continue to support jp chuubas
Simple as

>>3249293
go back nigger you don't own this place

>>3249885
go back to your anti thread

>>3248719
>But HoloEN ended being up tremendously popular among most people here
No. HoloEN became tremendously popular among normalfags that migrated here.

>>3249293
If people are being retarded just ignore them, you don't need to seethe this hard because people don't like your favourites

>>3248719
Imagine liking SJW Cringe dub over superior Japanese

>>3248898
/thread

>>3249293
>I'm talking to the "all western women are whores" people
All western women are whores because all women are whores. The difference is Vtubers are fictional characters being played by actors, and fictional women do not need to be whores. Eastern women understand that men do not want whores and cater their characters accordingly. Western women understand that westerners have entire movements around praising whores and as such will let their whorish behavior seep into their characters.

>>3250398
Tell me how I know you've only watched Hololive Vtubers.

>>3250475
My oshi isn't from Hololive. You can just look at the sheer magnitude of western whores on twitter and groups such as vshojo and see that westerners idolize whores.

>>3250591
Who's your oshi? Don't be shy.

>>3250695
You'll just shit up the general with your tourist friends. What does it matter who my oshi is anyway? Seems like you're just seething because I hit a nerve.

>>3250398
>Marine
>Noel
>That one bit that Choco and Mel did
>That one girl who literally had sex with her boyfriend on stream
I think you're just seeing what you want to see, anon.

>>3250787
So it's a Niji. Then you should be familiar with Gundou and Hoshikawa. Hardly girls acting pure to cater to Eastern males.

>>3250824
Play 20 questions all you like

>>3250870
I accept your concession.

>>3250813
>>That one girl who literally had sex with her boyfriend on stream
I bet you consider russians eastern too. Canadians are not Americans just because they're in north america.

>>3250895
Tell me your oshi. I guarantee it's some western whore you're whiteknighting for right now.

>>3248719
White people are evil

>>3248719
Because everything is political over there and you're getting worse by the day. The only reason vtubing is still somewhat okay and why HoloEN is still fine is because it hasn't garnered the attention of he worst of your political activists and politicians. But it's only a matter of time before that happens.

>>3248719
>Why do some of you guys have such an outward seething hatred towards anyone Western?
because i heard like 5 seconds of one of moris songs

>>3248898
also this. they all sound stupid to me
laid back english speaking holos like ina and reine are ok though

>>3250962
I watch Mashiro primarily, if you must know. His last Helltaker stream was quite fun.

>>3249997
This.

>>3251039
What has he done that makes you seethe so much you falseflag on /vt/?

They hate EN because it's more popular. That's it. That's literally it.

>>3251104
Absolutely nothing, he's great. You got the idea that I was defending the Vshojo menace in your head all on your own. I just disagree with the basic idea that all Japanese chuubas act pure and Western chuubas act whorish. I've seen plenty of exceptions in both cases.

>>3251148
>they're just jealous
>they only bully you because they have their own problems
this is some grade schooler cope

EN and it's consequences for the chuuba culture have been awful. Now EOP are throwing reddit tier terms and pushing for Holos to be some kind of sluts instead of proper idols. It's horrible

The West has done nothing but destroying everything in their sight for centuries, anon.

>>3251263
This is the exact shit that SJWs say, anon

>>3251289
SJWs are also the product of the west.

>>3251185
>not all
Sure, you can cherrypick exceptions to anything. On aggregate however the vast majority of eastern Vtubers do not act like whores and the vast majority of western Vtubers do act like whores.

>>3251348
As is post-WWII Japan.

I always found it funny that the ones that get the most pissy about vshojo are holoentards, like they're trying to prove they're somehow different.

>>3248719
Anonchama...

>>3251364
It's cope. HoloEN and Vshojo are both complete cancer.

>thread asking why people are western antis turns into a western anti thread

>>3251359
Nope. Japanese are neither American or European, unlike SJWs. The West has done nothing but destruction to the world and can't stop even when they realize it. Typical white "people".

>>3251445
Gee, it's almost like he was asking a question directed directly to antis or something.

>>3251445
who are u quoting

>>3251448
nanking denier hands wrote this post

>>3248719
i would say that its popular because most people don't know japanese and they absolutely aren't going to learn the worlds hardest language just to watch some streamers

>>3251480
Nope, just someone with a measure of empathy. Something that white people will never have.

>>3251445
The cycle of seethe never ends, because they will never be Japanese

>>3248719
It's only weebs weebing

>>3251360
If you can understand the difference between "all" and "most" then that is all the understanding I ask of you.

>>3251445
Are you saying it's a bad thing?

>>3251533
Without Japanese you wouldn't be here in the first place

>>3248719
Why do burgers hate themselves so much?

>>3249617
the japanese streamers will always remain a niche for english audiences. people just cant enjoy them when they speak in a language that the viewers cant understand

>>3251569
They just finally realized that they are the bad guys of history

>>3251532
Or, you could have just said nanking denier

>>3251624
Trying to goalshift, as expected of a white apologist.

>>3251569
Because burgers, like this board, import agregious amounts of outsiders that refuse to integrate and yet are still considered burgers.

>>3251658
>Blaming everyone but themselves
White "people"

>>3251654
Remind me again how you're not an SJW

>>3251566
That is quite the non-sequitur. I like and appreciate Japan. I also laugh at self-hating retards who escape to watch girls they can barely understand but are still stuck in their shitty country when the stream ends. You will never be Japanese

>>3251698
I hate LGBT people too. I just hate white people more because the destruction they cause far outstrips what a bunch of fags could do.

>>3251731
White people are souly responsible for SJWs

>>3251654
Okay feminist

I'll remake this thread outside of SEA hours

>>3251783
Based

>>3251783
whats the point? they are popular because english is the universal language that literally everyone understands. few understand japanese and the content is usually not translated so it does not have a chance

>>3251782
Sure. Let's pretend that white people aren't the one who keeps pushing feminism then. It warms my chest to know that whites will be extinct within the century thanks to immigration, interracial marriage and sheer faggotry.

>>3251731
Whatever you say thinly disguised tranny

>>3251842
May I inquire your ethnicity?

>>3251731
imagine hating gays when majority of chuubas are one

>>3251857
Seething white man. Hope you enjoy black bulls railing your sister

>>3251882
chuubas aren't like your twitch streamers. they're playing characters and yuribaiting.

>>3251901
Uh huh, go chop your dick off somewhere else fag

>>3251881
Not white, thank God

>>3251901
So you are a Canadian, makes sense.

>>3251914
you can't write everything to yuribaiting even if you want to

I'd rather watch a JP struggling eternally with cute engrish. Yes, I can't deny HoloEN is talented, but the lack of a language barrier ruins the experience for me.

>trying to find rational reasons from self-hating whites and SEAcockroaches
It's literally just "You will never be japanese.jpg"

>>3251989
I'm shorter than this...

>>3251986
>HoloEN is talented
how exactly?

>>3251989
Yes, I am a Bolivian. How can you tell?

>>3251989
>mfw no 150cm high SEAnigger boy with 10cm dick to humiliate with my big white cock

>>3248810
FPBP

Not going to mass reply because I'm not a faggot but I just wanted to remind most of the people in this thread that you will never ever be Japanese.

>>3250072
> muh leftist bogeyman

>>3249617
>lacks the authentic experience of a actual JP waifus. The girls really feel more like the best of twitch streamers and not virtual idols
YWNBJ

>>3249997
Good

>>3251003
Fair enough

>>3254763
Even if there are Japanese itt they will never be real Japanese like pic related

>>3251031
this opinion is based. very based indeed

>>3252028
drawing and singing. Not making shitty weeb rap, but the other stuff is good.

>>3248719
The western vtuber thread is over there if you actually care about them.
>>3261365

>rants about a thing that's on Youtube getting exposure to Murricans.
>Youtube
>Twitch

They literally stream in SJW-infested waters. With or Without EN, this hobby was doomed to that fate.

With the Netflix Vtuber active, it's only a matter of time now.

>>3251986
I agree with this. The cultural exchange is fun.

>>3252024
Bruh...

>>3248719
do not distract yourself from the fact that these girls are one simple incident away from the ever-fine line of westerns yabs. it's not that they're anomalies, but the mental fortitude to not simply give in to that almost-cultural pressure is impressive.

>>3248719
As I already said, the only thing that stopped them from hating HoloJP talents is that they don't understand them apart from clips and they can't register insincerity because they are not native speakers.

That's the same as you liked some performer/rapper etc, then you learned english well enough to understand what he's singing about and dropped almost immediately.

>>3248719
Western women have been largely made unclean by the cult of social justice in a way that Japanese women typically haven't. That being said, HoloEN is either doing a really good job of hiding that with it's girls, or they're some of the few good ones left.

>>3263519
Ina and Kiara are massive SJW, I'm glad they leave that to their roomate stuff

>>3252024
i love short boys

>>3251588
>>3256010
No, it's not because they are speaking in another language or some florigen waifu fetish. There really is a difference in presentation and over feel of the streaming styles.

>>3248719
The majority of anime watchers are seanigs and chinese

>>3248719
Loud, obnoxious SJWs poisoned western women's reputation.

>>3250398
>Marine
>Matsuri
>Coco
>Noel
>Miko
>Choco and Mel
And that's hololive alone.
Eastern vtubers act like giant sluts too, people only sperg when they're speaking English.

>>3263519
>>3268532
/vt/ spends most of their waking hours fearmongering about sjws but when has a prominent English vtuber ever acted sjw in stream?
You have people like Nyanners/Kiara who don't bring up politics on stream but people here bring their personal views up constantly and try to force the issue. The western antis are always the ones forcing politics into the discussion, not the girls themselves.

>>3251566
Without American cuckboy Moot you wouldn't be here

>>3265400
If Ina is a SJW than either goddamn is she good at hiding it or she's only slightly left leaning especially with work her roommate does.

>>3251566
>>3269872
And vtubers wouldn't exist if Americans hadn't infected Japanese brains with radiation

>>3269785
Yeah a lot of the talk about SJWs is currently just doomposting and not something I see happening in the major Japanese agencies especially with the strictly no politics approach they've been going with for a while.

>>3268065
yes there is a difference but the masses aren't going to start watching something that they cant understand even if it feels nice

>>3248810
>paranoid
Yes
>freaks
Why? It's the cynical way of the world. Expect to be disappointed.

>>3251989
Holy fuck I would be a giant in SEA.

>>3276694
>It's the cynical way of the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqe6vz1xLFY

>>3248719
HoloEN and most western vtubers are boring as fuck, don't have characters and are cringe as fuck, it's like watching dubbed anime, i.e normalfag shit. I don't know why SEAniggers keep worshipping them so much and making these retarded bait threads, not even the americunts are so retarded, it's always on SEA hours.

>>3248719
Westerners are actively trying to ruin Japanese culture (social harmony) one way or the other. They attack and harass artists and other vtubers minding their own business, what's absolutely abhorrent is that the western vtubers (especially vtweeters) themselves are doing this and enabling this kind of garbage. This has been seen way too many times and I'm not gonna give them even a single inch. I'm gonna be wary and apprehensive of all 'western vtubers' out there because they have lost my trust.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

>>3248719
Because I listened to Calli's 'rap' on debut

>>3251504
>worlds hardest language
only if you're american. japanese has simpler grammar structure, fewer irregularities and overall easier pronunciation compared to English. Only Kanji fuckery gets in the way

>>3280536
theres only few simple letters in english but in japanese there are thousands and many of them look almost identical, even if they don't they are extremely complex so very hard to remember