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3244629 No.3244629[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Rationalize your unhealthy parasocial relationship

>> No.3244639

No.

>> No.3244650
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3244650

i have no friends and don't care for my family, hololive is as good as it gets

>> No.3244654

>>3244639
AAAAAHHHHHHHHH I'M SO LONEY AND HORNY.

>> No.3244656

It keeps me on the right side of sanity.

>> No.3244658

She's like a big sister I never had, and I want her to succeed
I want her to make it

>> No.3244666
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>>3244629
better than suicide

>> No.3244671

>>3244629
I don't have one after I became obsessed with Amelia for a week or two and then after digging up everything on her I could, subsequently dropped Amelia. I don't have desire or feelings for anyone especially not a woman, what a stupid foolish position to put yourself in.

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>>3244629
It's ok, because it is reciprocated

>> No.3244711

>>3244671
>I became obsessed with Amelia for a week or two and then after digging up everything on her I could, subsequently dropped Amelia.
tell me more

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3244762

it would have been perfect if things were different

>> No.3244774

>>3244629
it's the only thing that makes me feel affection

>> No.3244885

I see vtubers is an upgraded version of Anime. It doesn't really get in the way of my relationship with people and work, its just there as entertainment to replace Anime.

>> No.3244964 [DELETED] 

>>3244671
>>3244711
He most likely found out that her roomate had a bf and was your basic twitch thot before becoming a hololive vtuber.
source: I went through the same thing.

>> No.3244990

>>3244629
I am viewer. I am chat. I am listener. They are my oshi, my idol, my waifu.

>> No.3245006

>>3244964
Delete this.

>> No.3245018

why don't you go and tell this to every twitch whore sub, fag op?

>> No.3245041
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3245041

>>3245006
Look man, I'm still a teamate. I still like Ame. But after doing my due diligence as an investigator and uncovering the truth about her... thing's won't be the same. I still like her, but the magic's gone.

>> No.3245046

>>3244964
Anon said it so I didn't have to. Yes, it was this. I was attracted to her roommate, even. But it mounted up and was too much. Killed any love in my heart I ever had for her. Choked and strangled it until it was dead.

>> No.3245056

yikes

>> No.3245075 [DELETED] 

>>3244964
Why do some of you act surprised that some of the girls had boyfriends in the past? You do know that 95% of all women on Earth have had relationships by the age of 20?

>> No.3245077

>>3245041
Stop it.

>> No.3245082
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>>3245046
Forget about her roommate. Vtubers shouldn't be about the roommate. The roommate just provides the voice, the acting, and the script. The fictional girl (Ameila Watson) is better than what the real girl behind her could ever be.
Understand this, and you can go back to Golsingfagging over her.

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3245098

Like a ball being passed back and forth through an empty window, from apathy to alienation, or a wall where there hangs a small ornately-framed mirror, in-front-of-which-I-stand but in-which-I-don't-appear

>> No.3245103

>>3244885
>vtubers is an upgraded version of Anime.... its just there as entertainment to replace Anime
I hate this mentality. Anime and vtubers are completely different things, so one doesn't replace the other. It's like saying watching Ninja play Fortnite is a replacement for watching Breaking Bad.

>> No.3245104

>>3245075
shut up SHUT THE FUCK UP

>> No.3245107

>>3245075
Nor surprised, but up until finding out about it, it was still up in the air. Once you find out about it, it's solidified. There's no going back.

>> No.3245119

>>3245075
Yes I am aware 95% of women are worthless used goods by the age of 20.

>> No.3245224 [DELETED] 

>>3245075
I know what the guy who has given Amelia a facial and had his cock in her mouth looks like. Probably took her virginity, even. I will never look at her the same again and definitely not with any appreciation or affection. She might as well be dead. I feel sorry for you if you don't have the same resolute disgust.

>> No.3245252

>>3244629
It's fun to play pretend once in awhile.

>> No.3245280
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>>3244629
>Parasocial relationship
You're no different from a schizo who's fallen in love with a twitch thot or an onlyfans paypig. When would you realize that having delusional fantasies with streamers who larp as anime girls is bad for you? Having waifus are different because they're not real. But vtubers have real girls behind them. How do you cope knowing that your oshi prolly has a bf railing her everyday or the fact that she have tons of paypigs begging for her attention? Or worse, what if she graduates? Then what, anon? Either take your meds or get a better outlook on your life. Goodluck out there, anon...

>> No.3245361

>>3245046

Stop doxing Ame, you bastard.

>> No.3245366

>>3244629
I dont give them any money and I barely watch live anymore so I can tell myself I'm not too far gone yet.

>> No.3245367

>>3245280
>How do you cope knowing that your oshi prolly has a bf railing her everyday
this, emotionally investing in vtubers is total cuck shit

she could be getting fingered by him while you're laughing having happy chemical good times over the silly noises your babysitter "oshi" is making to both entertain and more importantly to her, wring cold hard cash out of you. Even the constant repeating BGM music is like an insult being said to your face but not comprehended by you 9/10 times. Repetitive droning nursery music for the manchild weebs she's babysitting.

>> No.3245418

Teamates are sad delusional people

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>>3245280
>>3245367
But anons what if I have a parasocial relationship with popular internet entertainer Rich Evans?

>> No.3245439

>>3244629
it's a source of motivation to improve myself

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>>3245367
>she could be getting fingered by him while you're laughing having happy chemical good times over the silly noises your babysitter "oshi" is making to both entertain and more importantly to her, wring cold hard cash out of you. Even the constant repeating BGM music is like an insult being said to your face but not comprehended by you 9/10 times. Repetitive droning nursery music for the manchild weebs she's babysitting.
Damn, you didn't have to go straight for the jugular like that.

>> No.3245496

>>3245367
>Repetitive droning nursery music for the manchild weebs she's babysitting

ok this made me chuckle

>> No.3245500

>>3245280
>who larp as anime girls
But my oshi doesn't even do that.

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3245510

Wait I thought it was a meme people unironically fall in love with vtubers? get some help

>> No.3245519

3245367
If you're gonna make posts like these on the vtuber board at least adopt a trip so I can filter you.

>> No.3245549

>>3245496
When I looked at myself from an out of body perspective sitting there with that music playing hanging on her every word, every little pathetic movement of her silly cartoon avatar, everything became clear, I realized the true dynamic of what was happening, what the purpose of the background music is, all of it. That this vtuber is a babysitter for lonely pathetic young men in perpetual arrested development.

>> No.3245550

What's with all the nihilistic, depressed dudes in this thread who think being a pessimist grants them clarity?

>> No.3245616

>>3245550
It's what happens after you spend an evening watching Jordon Peterson videos or some other brand of nebulous life advice sermons without actually having any kind of experience or wisdom. Unironically more pathetic than goslingposters.

>> No.3245628

>>3245550
how new

>> No.3245630
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>>3244629
booba

>> No.3245665

>>3245510
I was like you last year, anon.
Then it happened for me. I hope it doesn't happen to you.

>> No.3245674

>>3245549
As opposed to what, exactly? Are you just now figuring out the basic psychological processes of entertainment? Watching anything viewed from an "objective" perspective can be quickly construed as pathetic. What, you think sitting there leaning back in your chair staring at imageboards, streaming sites, or pdfs is somehow better?

>> No.3245676

>>3245616
this is some really fucking retarded tranny leftypol projection/cope, you need to check in with your comrades and get some new talking points Jordan Peterson hasn't been a relevant punching bag for your ilk in years

>> No.3245713

>>3245676
He hasn't, but it gets referencing him gets the point across of you being a low-bar faggot doomposter. If the motivation for your posting was earnest you'd at least be telling anons to lift instead of spouting gay ass basic blackpills. Go fucking dilate you manlet.

>> No.3245720

>>3245119
Imagine not being used by the time you become 20

>> No.3245730

I don't pretend to have a relationship with them. I don't think they will ever notice me but I think they are funny people. Good enough to watch while I have my lunch or dinner. I support memberships because it's just my way to say that I enjoy their work and want to watch more of them. I hate asmrs though and would never watch it even if it's part of the package. I don't like gfe. It makes me cringe so the moment that they do, I jump to another stream.

>> No.3245754

>>3245713
why would I tell anon to lift I don't give a fuck about some anon's personal development, I'm not here to tell them to be better versions of themselves that would be some jordan peterson faggotry there, "hey anon stop watching vtubers and wash your penis for me okay?"

your oshi is actually a whore, anon. like all women. and a glorifed babysitter for failed men. sorry you had to hear it from me. a bloo bloo bloo.

>> No.3245763

i dont have one

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>>3245616
yeah, you don't have to be some kind of freak or cuck to enjoy watching vtubers, that's just what these anons project onto other people. if they managed to fix the issues plaguing their lives, they'd gain real clarity and be able to enjoy chuubas for what they are.

>> No.3245800

>>3244629
Either that or rat poison.

>> No.3245813

>>3245754
You're proving my point of you being a basic bitch doomposter, and for what? as if most anons here aren't already jaded and have realistic expectations of women, that doesn't nullify the entertainment. And you, as a failed man yourself, don't get to exempt whatever kind of escapism you spend your time on.

>> No.3245817

>>3244629
She's cute.

>> No.3245819

>>3245754
if you need to vent your frustrations, please just do it with a loved one. doing it here makes you look like a pathetic crab in a bucket, even if all you're doing is airing your honest feelings.

>> No.3245839

>>3245367
>this, emotionally investing in vtubers is total cuck shit
That's why you are supposed to do your research before falling for them.

>> No.3245944

>>3245839
>tfw did this
>fell in love harder than ever

>> No.3245958

>>3244629
It's really not that irrational.

>> No.3245988

>>3245280
These girls are virgins. You are just projecting your deep seated fear/fantasy of being cucked onto them.

>> No.3245993

>>3245519
Weak anon can't handle the truth.

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>>3244629
ITT

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>>3245224
you speak as if you had a chance to be her first

>> No.3246033

>>3245075
>>3245224
haha t. cucks
My oshi Aqua remains pure

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>>3245988
>These girls are virgins.

>> No.3246053

>>3244629
rationalize your spouting of meaningless buzzwords

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>>3246003
>In This Theater

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>haha t. cucks
>My oshi Aqua remains pure

>> No.3246102

>>3244629
Only weak ass faggots fall in love with anime avatars and still have the nerve to shit on ethots paypigs

>> No.3246121

>>3244671
Retard lol

>> No.3246139

>>3245119
Why do you live life with such a mindset? It makes you deeply unhappy. Get off /r9k/ and get some real life experience you fucking nigger

>> No.3246144

>>3245423
Fuck you Mike

>> No.3246149

>>3246050
learn japanese jojonigger

>> No.3246258

>>3246102
But what if my oshi's roommate is cute as well?

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>But what if my oshi's roommate is cute as well?

>> No.3246305

>>3244704
If you left she wouldn’t care. She has admitted to depending on chat, but that’s chat as a whole. Not you anon, I’m sorry

>> No.3246371 [DELETED] 

>>3246061
kek you got me bro post more!

>> No.3246588

I had a crush on a vtuber but I discovered her roommate was a human with needs and desires so now I've dedicated my life to science

>> No.3246687

>>3245041
Only a fool would let something like that ruin the experience for himself.

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>>3244629
I dont have to, my oshi rationalized it for me.

>> No.3249558

>>3248985
Ride or die huh? You lucky anon you

>> No.3250437
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I'm literally a schizo
Every relationship I have ends with me mentally abusing my girlfriend, the last one even attempted suicide. Vtubers are the best thing I can get, this way I at least don't hurt anyone. I'm doing humanity a favor by sticking to virtual oshis.

>> No.3250993

>>3250437
I feel for you chumbud

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>>3244629
I have a good career and am tall & fit. I'm also in my mid 20's and have never kissed a girl outside truth or dare. I have no attraction to the only women who have ever expressed interest in me as they are overweight single mothers because I have a hideous face & am balding. I have literally no chance at a good real relationship & don't see any point in even trying for one anymore.

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>>3244671
>I don't have one after I became obsessed with Amelia for a week or two and then after digging up everything on her I could, subsequently dropped Amelia
You witnessed amegeddon firsthand didn't you?

>> No.3251326

>>3250993
not a chumbud, just chose a Gura reaction image
I'm tako

>> No.3251342

>>3244629
There's very few things that bring me happiness and my oshi and their roommate is one of them. That's all.

>> No.3251652

>>3251326
>A literal schizo
>not KFP
Color me surprised.

>> No.3251739

>>3244650
underrated post

>> No.3251789

>>3244629
I'm lonely and I can stare at them all I want without being scared of being creepy or making them uncomfortable. Most of all, I don't have to talk to them.

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>>3251652
pretty sure most Takos are mental to some degree, Ina acts as some sort of tranquilizer for them

>> No.3251995

>>3245730
Generally agree with you but what do you mean by gfe?

>> No.3252023

>>3245839
Why would you fall in love with a vtuber are you retarded lmao

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>>3245988
>These girls are virgins.

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They're not my friend, i will never meet them. But i like them

>> No.3252949

>>3244654
Based

>> No.3253086

>>3244629
No friends, thousands of km away from my family, living the lonely wagecuck life. The usual stuff. Vtubers actually keep me sane.

>> No.3253115

I don't have to rationalize shit

>> No.3253118

>>3246258
Girls Frontline Extasis

>> No.3253148

I like Porka because she needs me
I will never leave her alone!

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>>3244671
Talking to us is also a parasocial relationship.

>> No.3253232

>>3251995
Gfe = girlfriend experience.

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They're better than real friends. Since quarantine hit I've had not much contact with them, and after getting into vtubers, I realized I felt no need to.
They were asking me to go to their weddings, graduation parties, shit like that. Everything felt like a huge pain in the ass, so I just gave up on talking to them altogether and vtubers filled the gap quite nicely.

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>>>3253290 Since quarantine hit I've had not much contact with them, and after getting into vtubers, I realized I felt no need to.

>> No.3253392

>>3244629
I'm the same as most people here.
>No friends
>Family don't care about me
>No social skills
>People in general just dislike me
>Lonely as fuck
>But there are these fun streams where some girls pretend to be friendly anime characters for a few hours every day
It's not healthy, but it lessens the pain a little. Actually falling for them/honestly believing you could have a relationship is true insanity though, and I'm not at that stage.

>> No.3253452

Noo, it's not rational.

>> No.3253493

>>3253392
Join a club like Toastmasters.

>> No.3253651

>>3253493
What are toastmasters?

>> No.3253697

>>3253290
You're going to regret this at some point in the future. Maybe not yet, but at some point you'll realize that you're missing out on new avenues of life by eschewing those options. I've done it before and continue to do it despite my best efforts. Though maybe you also just need some additional new friends.

>> No.3253704

>>3245367
>Even the constant repeating BGM music is like an insult being said to your face but not comprehended by you 9/10 times. Repetitive droning nursery music for the manchild weebs she's babysitting.
lmao

>> No.3253715

>>3253392
You'll reach that point eventually

>> No.3253762

>>3253651
Public speaking clubs. Members give short off-the-cuff speeches and get feedback on them.
There are other clubs like it, but Toastmasters are the most widespread.

>> No.3253771

>>3245730
same
I watch only 3 vtubers but I refuse to get a membership for the one whose main paypig content is ASMR, it feels like prostitution

>> No.3253865

I honestly think that is she who has a parasocial relationship with us.

>> No.3253914

>>3251122
>retard

go for a mail order bride or just go thailand to find a young chick to marry if you want to continue your family line. You don`t have to just go for local washout single moms. These Thai chicks from the Village will be wonderful wifes with none of the Western whitewashing, BLM crackhead mindsets.

>> No.3254014

>>3253865
In some cases I think this is correct, especially for the lesser known girls and the NEETs. They probably get more than some would think from the parasocial interaction.

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I love watching Pekora and Miko`s stream, it just feels like going back to my childhood watching Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry. I`ve never felt any form of attraction or desire for them though. Seems weird to sexualize Bugs Bunny and Jerry. Subaru on the other hand i`m a bit obsessed with. I have yet to find any information on Subaru`s room-mate and i have a thing for Tomboys who are dere-dere IRL.

>> No.3254077

I'm in love with my oshi and I'm tired of pretending I'm not.

>> No.3254118

>>3251805
I thought takos were the most normal fanbase.

>> No.3254187

>Only just realised that "room mate" means the actual girl behind the character
God I'm stupid.

>> No.3254261

>>3244666
Based demon trips. I do less harm to my parents alive and socially detached. In an odd sense, I think they also allow me to be comfortable listening to other people speak.

>> No.3254280

>>3254187
That's holo jargon. Normal people refer to them as the VA

>> No.3254298

>>3244629
My life and world around me are meaningless. Nothing good awaits me in future. But as long as I can't commit suicide, I'm just trying to enjoy some things to escape from the constant feeling of dissatisfaction. Dunno, i don't think that i'm in a parasocial relationships with my oshi, because i can't even dream about her, knowing my own character's flaws, and i understand that she won't ever know about me. But i like her, cause she's cute and funny, i like to watch how she's grow. In a meaningless world, every thing has only the meaning you want to give it. That's the whole rationalization.

>> No.3254431

>>3254298
We are here to create and maintain creation. Make something, if you can

>> No.3254492

>>3254118
just wait for Inas graduation

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Why fall in love with a VTuber when you can make a tulpa out of her?
Reality is just your brain's interpretation of the physical world. How are tulpas any different? People calling us weirdos are fundamentally ignorant and lead artificial lives. They are slaves to their genes and are absorbed by the herd morality. They are too scared to get out of their comfort zone, so they ostracize anyone that steps out of the line.
Real men can see beyond these rules and make up their own. This is the true freedom. But you're not ready for this conversation.

>> No.3254660

>>3254431
I can't. It's just how you see it. Nothing bad, but i can't treat it the same way.

>> No.3254682

>>3244629
They're women but they have personality

>> No.3254718

>>3244629
I am content with my life for the first time in a long time and I am in a comfortable enough financial situation that I can afford myself a subscription to my oshi's channel and even some limited whaling in a gachashit game.
I embraced complete NEET loserdom and I have never been felt more at peace with myself. Can you say the same?

>> No.3254731

>>3254569
Meds

>> No.3254733

>>3254298
>cute and funny
Are you a Patrician?

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>>3254118
everytime Ina stops streaming and doesn't post her schedule, there is a psychotic breakdown in /wha/ and suicide will get mentioned at least once

>> No.3255226

>>3244629
>unhealthy
>but keep me from ending my life

youre joking

>> No.3255283

>>3254718
This. I went over a decade without having anything like love or affection directed at me. It's hard to dig yourself out of that out and it becomes a vicious cycle because it makes you a bitter and angry person, which isn't conducive to forming relationships. I finally feel happy most of the time, even if I occasionally come to crushing lucid realizations that I will never really be with my oshi.

>> No.3255334

>>3254569
I'm never fucking with tulpas after reading that one post about how some anon tried making one and ended up with a faceless abomination that screams at him 24/7.

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>>3244629
I use her as a literal idol for creative inspiration, perseverance through the pain of mediocre skill development, and overall self improvement.
As I build up my confidence, I look to make myself "worthy" of someone like her someday, even though I know it will never be her directly.

>> No.3255571

>>3253697
Give me a number. I'm 25 and probably won't make it to 40 because of a degenerative disease. If it's one of those "when you're old" things I could not care less

>> No.3255797

>>3254569
>Why fall in love with a VTuber when you can make a tulpa out of her?
After the horror stories I've read no thanks, I'll stick to the streams and eventually take the Larspill

>> No.3255805

>>3255571
Not him but based on personal experience, it takes around 5 years of 0% interpersonal interactions for it to start to seriously affect you. From there, it's a fairly quick downhill spiral.

>> No.3255893

>>3255226
Then this thread isn't for you then, is it faggot?

>> No.3255917

>>3255226
Suicide is the healthiest thing you can do. Therefore, chuubas are evil for spreading the most terrible of poisons, hope.

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>>3254569
>dude, just give yourself schizophrenia lmao

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>>3244629
Im cold and lonely

>> No.3256117

>>3245782
>what they are
streaming will never be an acceptable form of entertainment and I hope it dies
Streaming has normalized vlogposting, and I am the only one alive on this earth who has actually figured out that all of you who enjoy it because you like watching other people are actual disgraceful monsters wbo have abandoned the most fundamental meaning of humanity
but it doesn't matter, you stopped caring about important shit like mankind years ago, all you do now is shitpost and ogey
this world burns alive because of people like you
the most demented, dystopian, miserable last few decades of all human existence, literally dying of malaria at 20 was better than this, better than you

I am so tired that you think you don't need my permission tonl8ve, and I'm going to fix your mistake, and everybody elses

>> No.3256118

>>3255334
That greentext was hilarious but fuck it actually happening to you. Tulpas aren't meant to be made by the mentally ill and the end results are never pretty.

>> No.3256140

>>3244629
Their is no rationalizing my unhealthy relationship. If I dont do something about my circumstances, i'll die alone

>> No.3256263

>>3253914
I could never marry a SEAnigger after being here

>> No.3256284

>>3244964
OH NO NOT A BOYFRIEND! THE HORROR! HOW WILL I EVER COPE WITH THE FACT THAT A WOMAN WHO ISN'T MY GF AND WHO I'LL NEVER MEET HAS EVER HAD A BF !

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>>3244629
We live in a simulation, none of this really matters.

>> No.3256385

>>3256117
>the most fundamental meaning of humanity
And what is that, oh so wise anon?

>> No.3256483

>>3256118
Are they meant to be made at all?

>> No.3256548

>>3256385
"want more"

>> No.3256549

>>3256483
They're meant to be made by monks in some religion. They're meant to be spirit guides or some shit, not waifus. No wonder they get pissed when they discover they're a segment of some nutter's brain and its mainifested them as a cartoon pony.

>> No.3256557

>>3256483
>>3256118
Tulpas are not real, their just your imgination.

>> No.3256559

>>3245819
>please just do it with a loved one
That's the issue, there are no loved ones. And if there are, they don't want the burden of hearing anon's issues.

>> No.3256562

>>3256117
>I am so tired that you think you don't need my permission tonl8ve, and I'm going to fix your mistake, and everybody elses
What on Earth are you even talking about?

>> No.3256614

>>3245119
lmao chronic /r9k/ brain

>> No.3256617

>>3254718
>Can you say the same?
I was. Then some social unrest happened along with the pandemic and now I'm a miserable wagecuck

>> No.3256705

>>3256614
Not really. Japan has a chronic problem of young girls going into enjo kosai and then when they're OL, they refuse to marry "sad otaku" men

>> No.3256742

>>3256705
get off /r9k/ faggot, if you honestly think having a single boyfriend makes some girl used goods then the only way to unfuck your brain is for you to just an hero and get it over with

>> No.3256758

> information inside your head isn't real
ogey

>> No.3256819

>>3256742
>get off /r9k/ faggot
You're the one obsessed with that site, not me.

>> No.3256837

>>3256385
politics

>> No.3256840

>>3256742
Not that anon but for almost all of history a woman having a boyfriend did make her used goods. You can get mad over people still thinking that but it's millions of years of monkey evolution you're trying to undo.

>> No.3257115

>>3256385
having sex with underage boys

>> No.3257139

>>3256118
>Tulpas aren't meant to be made by the mentally ill
Seems like big catch-22 since only the mentally ill would resort to making a tulpa or even know about them.

>> No.3257207

>>3256385
Through dick, unity.

>> No.3257259

>>3257139
Then how do you know about them?

>> No.3257262

>>3256557
Your thoughts aren't real. They are just your imagination.

>> No.3257278

>>3256819
Is it summer already?

>> No.3257305

>>3257278
Summer never ended

>> No.3257360

>>3257259
Because I'm insane in the membrane.

>> No.3257526

>>3256117
I want you to screencap this and print it so you dont forget. Stick it like a postit under your computer screen so you can see it 18 hours a day:
You're not going to do shit. Not about this, not about anything. You're not going to do anything, ever, in your life. When you die no one will know, they wont care or notice.
In fact in a month or two you'll discover another fringe twitter ideology that you'll instantly adopt as your core political belief, and you'll forget you were ever mad at youtubers, vloggers or streamers. This post and any subsequent replies are a passing fad for you, but you wont ever realize it because you'll also forget that you posted when you adopt whatever sun cult pinetree anprim proto-fash ideas you pretend to be into next month.
Thats why I want you to print this post, so you remember. And when you feel the need to make this exact same post about whatever future gripe you have with modern society, just can read it and save me the time.

To reiterate:
You're not going to do shit.

>> No.3257580

>>3256840
neocon whig-poisoned if you genuinely believe this.

>> No.3257724

>>3256840
you have to go back

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>>3256758
It's not, depending on what you mean by real. The photoreceptor cells of your retina translates that information into electrical signals that are processed by your occipital lobe, which creates its own interpretation of the outside world.
Your vision could be as limited to a higher being as the ants' are to you.
In the end, your perception of the physical world is limited by your own physiology.

>> No.3258329

>>3256117
>you stopped caring about important shit like mankind years ago
And what is your contribution to mankind besides shitposting and jacking off?

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>>3244629
Unhealthy?

>> No.3259180

>>3244671
>He doesnt fell in love even more after knowing all the information about her roommate

>> No.3259195

>>3257870
The information in our heads is information that "describes: things we have seen in the outside world. It "isn't real " in the sense that it isn't the same as the things it describes, but it does exist in and of itself.

To give an example, no one who says "dreams aren't real" denies the fact that dreams exist. But the thing is that when you're in a dream you see things based on things you've seen in the outside world, but when you're dreaming you typically think you're awake and therefore you confuse the memories of things with the things in themselves. This delusion makes it not real imo.

>> No.3259248

How do i get a Tulpa

>> No.3259268

>>3259248
Get stabbed by a golden arrow

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>>3244629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl3H4vMqYNo

>> No.3259750

>>3258329
i have assassinated 57 key targets across the united states in the span of 12 years
none have been traceable back to me
all have been transgendered individuals with plans to forcibly indoctrinate children at a city level
i do not have the means of taking it to the greater conspirators but i can stop tranny outbreaks from occurring at the tactical level
this is my legacy

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>>3256117
>the most demented, dystopian, miserable last few decades of all human existence, literally dying of malaria at 20 was better than this, better than you
Sheltered opinion

>> No.3260341

>>3244671
I did the same thing and decided that from that point on I wouldn't dig deep on any more chuubas. I'm just going to enjoy them for what they are.

>> No.3260362

I love her and she loves me, fuck off

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>>3245082
This guy gets it.

>> No.3260434

>>3259248
Harsh mental training.
Try to visualize her for a long time until your brain does the job for you.

>> No.3260513

>>3245082
Interesting
Do you also have this opinion about vshojo girls?

>> No.3260586

>>3260513
Not him, but for someone like Nyanners I don't think that's really feasible since its directly tied to all of her old stuff. She's never had a persona change.

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>>3245280
Well you seem to have the wrong impression here, you low test beta retard, so let me spell it out for you.

Women are trash, but men biologically need to feel a level of interaction with the opposite sex to get a sense of belonging. But because we know women are trash, we don't want to deal with the downsides of being attached to one for long periods of time since we just know we're going to get burned. Either through previous experience or just instinct.

A waifu is a good choice because it gives your heart a female to focus on. But you're waifu is completely attached to her script. She can't have a dynamic conversation with you, and everything that happens in your headcanon is just that, unofficial headcanon. You can shape her into anything you want, but at that point she's no longer the original 2D girl you fell for.

Vtubers bridge that gap. I can feel an emotional attachment to a real woman and get many of the benefits while suffering from none of the drawbacks. I know the girl behind the avatar and her avatar are completely separate, but while she's playing the part I am invested. For some vtubers this almost seems like a non-existing distinction but that's a topic for some other time. But they're dynamic, they have life stories to share and their interactions with one-another make you feel like you're a part of the group to some extent.

Point is, I get to support someone and see them grow, enjoy themselves and have fun while taking no responsibility for their well-being beyond the few bucks I pay for my subscription of the goods I buy. I get to be there for some of their life's most important accomplishments, things they've worked towards or dreamed of forever. Yeah, there's no sex or individual attention, no physical skinship, but for everything, there's a trade-off. This is the emotional and financial equivalent of a pump-and-dump.

Do I care if she's getting railed by some guy? No, because once that woman detaches from her avatar I am no longer invested. In fact, imagine being that guy and realizing that you will never be able to financially support your girl to the same level that a few thousand lonely fucks on the Internet can. Sure, she might have sex with him, but he's never going to be the man of the house.

Who's doing the cucking here?

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I just want to see him succeed...

>> No.3260680

>>3245280
>>3245367
>>3245549
Damm I can't imagine being this miserable in life.
Kys emofag

>> No.3260685

Unhealthy parasocial relationship is better than no relationship at all.
t. didn't speak to anyone outside of family for 2 years

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>>3260610
>In fact, imagine being that guy and realizing that you will never be able to financially support your girl to the same level that a few thousand lonely fucks on the Internet can. Sure, she might have sex with him, but he's never going to be the man of the house. Who's doing the cucking here?
kek I love this pasta

>> No.3260807

>>3260685
Is that it?

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>>3260627
Better Quality.

>> No.3260896

>>3260610
>Who's doing the cucking here?
Him, easily.

>> No.3261003

>>3260610
your a fucking hypocrite dude. you say you hate real women. yet you blindly support women just because they have a anime avatar and give them money. sounds like cope to me

>> No.3261249

Literally everyone ends up gosling for her sooner or later. It feels good when she says that she loves "me" (I know she talks about chat, but she always uses "you") or that chat makes her happy. She pays attention to chat so it's likely that she'll reply and it feels like she's honest when she talks about her feelings too, which doesn't help.

>> No.3261287

>>3244629
The only thing I can say is that hanging out with chuubas is superior in almost every respect to what I was doing right before which was online dating during covid. In fact it's kind of incredible how much better it is.

Maybe what I really wanted all along was just to be around cute girls that either put a ton of effort into pretending to care to or who genuinely cared about the same hobbies I have than an actual relationship but regardless I'm having a better time and feeling better about myself than when I was doing online dating gacha.

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>>3244629
its fun

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>>3261003
I never said I hated real women, I said they're trash. What I do hate is dealing with seemingly irrational behavior.

>yet you blindly support women just because they have a anime avatar
No, I said I support them because they fill my need for fulfillment regardless of what they look like in real life or what they do behind their avatars.

>sounds like cope to me
Where the fuck do you think you are, of course it's a cope. This entire board and everyone in it is coping one way or another.

>> No.3261762

>>3261639
No not everyone is coping. Parasocial fags like you have ruined vtubing. now every vtuber can get away doing boring barebones content as long as they pander to you all.

>> No.3262134

>>3244666
Thanks satan

>> No.3262180

>>3260341
Same. Every time I find out about a roommate, I wish I hadn't. But I'm too curious to stop myself from finding out. I don't want to know about amegeddon, but I REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMEGEDDON.

Unless it's that webm that has AoT music and two dudes cosplaying.

>> No.3262242

>>3244629
I've had enough failure with this kinda thing and watching my oshi helps me feel the things I want to feel
It is absolutely escapism, but it's a fun fantasy that I get to indulge in because reality fucking bites

>> No.3262320

>>3253914
Eh. If I have to buy a wife maybe it is just time for my family line to die off since I'm a genetic dead end anyways.

>> No.3262333

>>3261762
The sooner you accept the fact that this was the intention from the very start, the sooner you can move on. Vtubers appeal to a very specific subgroup of people. Not my fault your exclusive hobby reached its eventual final form.

Otherwise companies like Cover would just do like the chinks and run streamhouses full of good looking but soulless girls like any other twitch or onlyfans whore.

>> No.3262935

>>3262333
But could you also not say that about a lot Twitch streamers. They are do parasocial thing.

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>>3244629
Allah forgives me so I will gladly sacrifice my life to repay Him this is His slave.

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>>3262935
No, because in that case there's no buffer between reality and fantasy. There's no plausible deniability to trick your brain into disassociating the real person's real self versus who they pretend to be in front of the cameras. With an anime avatar, there is. Ever hear of the idiom "what the eyes can't see the heart doesn't grieve over"? It applies here in both directions.

Maybe if you're so inclined, persistent and lucky enough you could track down the twitch thot you like and hook up with her.
But even if you do it to your oshi's roommate(good luck considering half of them seem to be socially recluse neets), it's not going to be the same. It shouldn't be the same.

>> No.3264049

>>3263429
Wouldn't that also apply to youtubers that doesn't use facecams/show their faces then?

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>>3264049
If people can fall in love with some background character in an unknown anime who barely has two lines her entire series, why not fall in love with a pair of hands building Gunpla?

The world is your oyster, anon.

>> No.3264550

>>3244629
No cash for home, no cash for pet

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>>3260773
>I dont need her she's just a whore r-right
Yes.

>> No.3265073

>>3254031
Im actually very thankful info on subaru is hard to come by, keeps the illusion a bit better. I know about pretty much all the other roommates and it kinda takes away from my enjoyment sometimes

>> No.3265758

>>3263429
I am not even talking just on purely romantic way but also friendship. Friendship simulators you know.

>> No.3266013

What's amegeddon?

>> No.3266788

>>3266013
day of the rope for goslings

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>>3244629
Chuubas are nothing short of antidepressants for me. Whenever I feel shitty (which is a lot of the time) I just boot up a stream and all my shitty thoughts are replaced with how much I love the chuuba. I think about how much I want to hug her. How much I want to marry her. But of course that just starts a new depression.

>> No.3267521

>>3260627
>>3260813
Kaida is one of the best Niji by a long shot, and in my top 3 male chuubas overall. I think he's doing pretty well.

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>>3244629
Relationship? The whole rabbit hole is simply the best entertainment since ever.

>> No.3267760

>>3244629
What relationship? They're performers playing characters, and I find the characters entertaining. If they're playing a game I like, I'll watch because I have fun seeing other people's takes on something I enjoy.

>> No.3268419

>>3244629
You can always just have Polka as your Oshi and enjoy the fact she's having a parasocial relationship with you instead.

>> No.3268716

>>3244629
I have no romantic feelings for my oshi.

>> No.3268948

i am mentally stable, thank you

>> No.3269386

>>3268716
Parasocial relationships are not limited to romantic ones. Most of mine I just wish we could be actual friends.

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I FUCKING LOVE MY MORI!

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