/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No, seriously... fucking indigo?

Kronii love!
/∞/ love!

I want time police to break my balls
Metaphorically and literally

Why did you make another thread
Did the 15 minutes we were without one not tip you off

IMPORTANT
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>>32447889
a fucking mspaintbeat...

>>32447852
She really knows exactly what she's doing when she says stuff like "I don't really interact or use Twitter that much" and then the supposedly rare instance she decides to use Twitter is right after she declares she's going on break, to respond in a playful manner to Vesper posting his underwear. You're also absolutely kidding yourself if you think that Regis posting what he did 4 minutes after she posted her break tweet is a coincidence.

Is she literally having sex with them right now? No. Are they coordinating this and laughing together as they deliberately hurt you? Yes.

>>32447927
someone will make it nonetheless

>>32447969
You need to take your meds bro

>>32447927
i'm not the baker but might as well enjoy the shitshow

You have to accept it. She will collab with her friends, that includes her male friends, and that doesn't include you, unless you join Holostars. So if you want to talk to her, join Holostars, or you can join a lottery to have a chance to pay for it for 3 minutes.

>>32447852
22:06

HAHAHAHAHA Your oshi is pure dogshit, taking yet ANOTHER break and you are still praising her up to high heavens.
The most reddit and cucked fanbase ever. You should be unironically chased off this board with shit sticks.

>>32447997
I think it's more likely you're taking too many meds if this isn't obvious to you.

Will you still watch Kronii?

>>32448014
Kill yourself dramafag

>>32447889
I don't know, indigo isn't even the right shade in a rainbow..

>>32447927
The clingyronies need to be lined up and shot

>>32448068
Depends on what she says when she gets back

KRONIES, GET INTO FORMATION FOR ME!
THIS...IS WHERE WE IGNORE THEM!
THIS...IS WHERE WE REPORT!
THIS...IS WHERE THEY GET B&!
THEY SHIT ON OUR POSTS, THEY DERAIL OUR THREADS, THEY FALSEFLAG ON THE CATALOG, AND THIS IS THE BEST YOU CAN DO?!
KRONIES, GIVE THEM NOTHING, AND TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING!
AWOOOO AWOOOO AWOOOO AWOOOO

>>32448068
No but I'm strongly considering doing everything in my power to make her life living hell

>>32448068
Yes because I'm not a retard that gives a fuck about all of this

>>32448068
depends on her content
please more fun games

>>32448142
t.tourist

>>32448068
Already switching to gura and production kawaii

>>32448082
>dramafag
how am i a dramafag for laughing at tourists you fucking retard

>>32448142
Are you going to shit your pants on Twitter? Because that's all you can really do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WKSJhFKoGE

don't worry guys, we will get another karaoke/movie watch along before kronii pulls the same shit again in a few months

>>32448213
its unfortunately effective.

>>32448124
If we're Spartans does that mean we're also going to have sex together in our tents?

>>32448252
the ultimate abusive timeloop

>>32448252
the worst part of this is Mori learned nothing, she will still spam invite her to more collabs.

>>32448236
karaoke endurance until 10 subs stream when

>>32448209
>how am I a dramafag for being a dramafag?

>>32448236
>people are leaving comments
How retarded are they? Do they not know to do their opsec reps?

All I really care about is the 1st members stream after this. Gonna pay especially close attention to her behavior to see if anything changes and if her relationship with Kronies have permanently changed because of this.

>>32448311
i'm always /here/ and dramaniggers won't chase me away, don't see the bad in mocking them really.

so what damage control are you about to do now

>>32448068
I’m just going to memory hole this whole incident and just wait for the sad dinosaur watch along.

>>32448287
haha funny because kroniis the warden of time

>>32448355
gay erp with the Kronies, the usual

>>32448068
she moved the land before time watchalong, so no, no i will not.

she plays too much boring shit for me to really care without the unicorn angle. She isn't totally a bad singer or anything, but she isn't THAT special, and until Cover ups their game in the EN lyrics department its not really worth listening to without feeling. I'll probably catch a rust stream at some point if she interacts with Gura or a JP holo is in it, but that's the extent of it.

>>32448373
memory hole this>>32448236

come home idolbros

>>32448321
the kind of people who would comment on that arent the brightest
or theyre using alts as they should be

>>32448142
Give her hell , spam the meanest and readable sentence unlike zhang wikipedia

I wish kronii would stop lying

>>32448419
god i hope IRyS cancel the watchalong and never collab with Kronii again

>>32448278
Wasn't Thebes the homofaggot polis?

>>32448396
the warden of headache is more fitting right now

>>32448447
kronii doesnt give a shit about herself but she does about her friends. wouldnt it be smarter to attack those people?

>>32448447
dont be a kid

>>32448442
Only one person is using an alt created today, the rest are not doing their opsec reps

>November break
>Minecraft loops
>The end isn't the end
>Grinch watchalong
>Christmas collab
>The AX break
>The end isn't the end 2
>The end isn't the end 3
The Twitter shit was a blatant lie, but recalling all the other times this has happened I'm more inclined to trust Kronii than some shitposters. The only reason shitposters even care is because males are involved.

>>32448482
I'm pretty sure almost every Greek city-state were boy buggerers, booty bandits, big giant gay homo men

Are merch refunds a thing? Just asking.

>>32448068
if she keeps on streaming indie zzz games when she comes back, I might just drop her.

>>32448575
>was a blatant lie
she said "not really twitter because i don't use twitter that much"
how the fuck is that a lie.

>>32448585
as long as it isn't shipped yet sure, you can cancel your order.

700k felt like so long ago. At her current rate of 1k subs per 2-3 days she has a good shot of hitting 800k while on break.

>>32448585
depends if it's shipped already, then no.

>>32448655
Her fault for being so obtuse. Still if everything else is gucchi then I'll chalk it to her being ESL as fuck.

>>32448655
the previous sentence was :
>"I wont interact with them publicly"

>>32447852
This thread is actually 22:06 and the previous original 22:03 thread has to be linked as a missing thread in the next thread which should be 22:07.

>>32448693
800k celebration Karaoke after the break

>>32448419
>Idols
>>32241614

>>32448693
Can't wait for 900k

>>32448655
The
>in public
Part really seals it

>>32448718
>I wont interact with them publicly
>said she'll join collab
she's just retarded

>>32448749
whoah there you expect me to read all of that

i feel bad about you cronies but you need another worse yab so they can stop shitposting
dont worry, they even stopped talking about amelia when kronii did her retarded posts

>>32448804
It's all bullshit anyways

>go to bed late last night
>shortly after I go to sleep """drama""" happens yet again and I wake up again to the threads tanking in quality
>This is the 3rd time this week has happened

it's all so tiring...

>>32448780
She was talking about not being on her channel/twitter, so people who don't like it don't need to see it

>>32448780
Yeah, she should have just said she won't collab with them, saying that she wouldn't interact with them on Twitter (which she technically didn't but still) was never gonna stand

>>32448839
Maybe you should stop going to sleep...

Kronii has built up way too much goodwill for me to disregard her after just a single Tweet. If proof is leaked that she's just stringing us along I'll reconsider but this just feels something that's being overblown by dramaniggers

So how long do you think the break will be? Im assuming a week or less.

>>32448842
cant wait for the full tempus collab on her channel after her break

>>32448833
Can someone tell Mori to fart on stream again?

>>32448833
Unfortunately the only yab that might be coming soon is roommate related so it won't be able to foster here

>>32448833
again, we need Mori to say nigger on stream.

time and time again i will say this
id rather be unaware when im getting cucked
you are already pretending to be an anime girl at least go the extra mile

>>32448839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r51EomcIqA0
>but rest assured kronie this is the 3rd time ive yabbed and i have become exceedingly efficient at it

This might all be a misunderstanding. Because her stance on tempus between when she first mentioned tempus and the unarchived members stream didn't much change if at all. During the sc reading when she first mentioned tempus, she said she'll collab only when invited. She later poped into Vesper's stream and chatted, and she interacted with Vesper on twitter once before. During the members stream, she said that she will only collab when invited and won't initiate and won't have pov, she said she'll sometimes pop into a stream and chat, and said she doesn't(or won't?) interact with them much on twitter. None of her stance changed for the most part with the only contentious part being the twitter stuff. Her members stream was more of an elaboration of her stance on the topic if anything. So she was probably being honest during the members stream and she still haven't changed this stance she had in members. It just seems like there's ambiguity in what "not interacting much on twitter" means to Kronii. Like, it was strange how she said she'll still interact in their stream chat but not twitter. How is one fine but not the other? But this is probably what she meant. She'll just interact on twitter occasionally like she would on their stream chat. That's probably why she mentioned stream chat and twitter in the same breath. She just thought she won't really interact with them on twitter because she doesn't use it often so that's how her words came out at the time. So I don't think she changed her thoughts on the topic at all and I doubt she'll suddenly start dunking on her parasocial fans and go out of her way to collab with males.

>>32448892
I know I shouldn't bite bait, but just commenting how utterly averse Kronii is to hosting big collabs on her channel so just found this funnily out of character

>>32448965
Mucho texto but I think I agree

>>32448965
i mean, everybody who actually watch Kronii knows she's really not good with words..

>>32448965
too much texto I don't agree

>>32448965
We'll see after she comes back.

Gabe trying to be civil is useless, i hate that she betray him

Next time gabe should send condom superchat

>>32448924
Hololive started with cute girls saying nigger on stream, so to solve any problems we simply need to do it again

The Kronii Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svO2foqZ-T8

>>32448965
you have the right of it. only thing to do is but wait and see.
also gabe can you like not in fc.

>>32449061
Why are you baiting Gabe? He's a nobody. Shitposters overblowing his importance just because he was lucky and Kronii read his comment

>>32448965
tl;dr: copium

>>32448965
I'm buying this cope
She said we were selfish, but said we were courageous and admirable and that she likes that, that can't be a lie.

>>32448068
How can you watch who doesn't stream

>korean games are making me suffer
>korean woman is making me suffer

We were passed this shit for fucks sake. Nobody cared anymore except for faggoty bait and sitters moved on.
Why the fuck did she have to make that tweet. We're stuck with this shit for the next week now because of this...

>>32448965
>She just thought she won't really interact with them on twitter because she doesn't use it often
>praise males underwear on twitter
lol

>>32449192
what server do you play maple on

Out of all the things she did shitting on idol culture bothers me the most, it's an insult to holoJP and all the holos who love being idols and everything surrounding it
If you hate idols so much don't join hololive you retard

>>32448965
Hey, stop using your brain
We don't do that here

>>32449209
>why the fuck did she have to make that tweet
just a few days ago it was
>why the fuck did she have to make that comment
the only difference here is that luckily we were able to run actual damage control for her by deleting that comment.
i wonder if she's even aware the clip comment's section got locked down because of her

>>32449226
The better question is, maple or maple 2?

It just feels like shitposters are really dropping the ball when it comes to Kronii. They've been shitposting with Bae, Ollie and Mori for months but when Kronii does this they latch onto her. They didn't give a fuck with all of the other yabs she's done in the past because they wrote her off as "stoner who doesn't stream". It makes them so blatantly easy to spot.

>>32449209
Like I said, I think she did it to test us, if any of her members schizo out. I know because that's what people with trust issues do.

>>32449242
you're assuming she knows anything about it, she was trying to appease the shipfags under that fucking clip

>>32449306
1.

>>32449112
I fucking laughed because I've seen this shit before so

I'm just waiting for when she goes full retard and vagueposts on her rm so that flashburn goes schizo again

Actually its Blue Archive

>>32449192
I also fucking despise lost ark and pubg.

>>32449320
that's some stupid test. never test people, they will either leave you disappointed or they will hate you because you doubt them

>>32449222
Basic isn't praise its an insult.

>>32448749
funny thing there is there's no difference on the dating portion. They can't actually control it for flesh idols, and the same for virtual ones, rather the acceptance of dating behind the scenes is just accepting what goes on anyways. Rather the flesh idol fans are the retards for thinking they can control it. Yes i imagine quite a few don't, in which case they just want the illusion. Well Vtubing idols can do that much better, and frankly with less effort on the talent's part. They are just superior as an experience.

>>32449410
don't care. don't talk about men underwear in public

Kronies you need to realize these dramaniggers are TORtanic tier autists. They want a repeat of the Mori fiasco where she shat on the deadbeats. They're making mountains out of molehills because Kronii isn't giving them the reactions they want. Just let them cannibalize each other and enjoy the show.

Kronii will NEVER insult your underwear unless you join homoEN

>>32449388
At least BA girls arent cuckbait

>>32448891
define 'stringing us along'? If you're fine with her interacting with males, then literally there is nothing wrong.

>>32449493
She insulted my hair at least

>>32449490
>They're making mountains out of molehills
kronii should just stop lying

>>32449209
>nobody cared anymore
The fact that the drama exploded again the second she interacted on twitter just proves that statement dead wrong.
The pot was still simmering and despite what people took away from that members stream she didn't actually clarify her position very much at all - her statements were very noncommittal and even the not interacting on twitter thing was qualified with "because I dont use it much"

Therefore some people will say she lied regarding the twitter thing, whilst others can interpret her words as - she said she doesn't use it much but never said she wouldn't interact on the offchance she does use it.

I hope she picks a position when she gets back and I say this knowing full well that the position she is most likely to pick is the one she has signalled from the start, she is fine collabing and wants to be able to interact if she feels like it. At this point for her own sake as much as her fans she should rip the band-aid off.

opinion on this

>>32449490
You'd have a point if Kronii herself didn't literally bring this about by straight up betraying her own words

>>32449406
Yes its stupid but like this poster said, she may be using faulty logic for tweets.
>>32448965

A better test would be another collab but being more respectful and following what she said on members, not in her channel and not bringing it up on her stream. that would filter out anyone who wont trust her and would keep her loyals, doing this tweet takes a huge hit on her honesty status.

>>32449306
>maple 2

its dead and has been dead for awhile...

>>32449515
Basically what she said "I won't host collabs on my channel" cause this one is something she said clearly and blatantly said.

>>32449550
Enjoy male collabs every week, Mori will spam it to piss us off.
Kronii will have to learn to say no and see that Mori is using her for her war.

>>32449573
I never got into playing it because I missed out on the CBT hat..

Am I the only one who doesn\t really care about her making entirely innocuous tweets at her coworkers or playing games with them? Sure, I know she said she wouldn't, but she might have realized that it's a completely unreasonable position to be in. She's been nothing but professional with them this entire time. What's the problem? Am I really in the minority here?

>>32449388
i only said what server you play maple on because for some reason that line from the overbotch video stuck with me

>>32449550
>yas queen i'm taking you to the SPA after putting you through that whole shitshow

>>32449625
with how much shit Kronii has been through this week, I doubt she's that shitty of a person to invite others again.

>>32449515
>then literally there is nothing wrong.
There is literally ALWAYS something wrong with you earnestly promising your members something and then going against it. Regardless of how you feel about the actual thing it's about, it's fucked up to lie / not keep your word.

>>32449630
You should care about her lying instead. There is a chance she mispoke or something but at face value she is lying.

>>32449705
Oh, you'd be surprised.

>>32449707
>never promised to not interact on twitter

>>32449630
The majority don't care. Didn't you watch the members stream? The vast majority of chat was shitting on the "incels".

>>32449705
lol

Jesus christ, I feel bad for the Kronies you niggas just finished an entire monggol of a raid, and now they're coming back with Kublai Khan.

I'm rooting for you boys, love you

>>32449724
I think of it less as lying and more of her changing her mind because she realized that it would be unfair to both her coworkers and to the fans who enjoy their interactions

>>32449630
Yes, being sane is rare here and frowned upon.

>>32449705
>Mori
>Caring

>>32449705
If that was the case she wouldn't tweet that, she would be sorry for Kronii, Mori is literally a sociopath she cant understand others feelings.

>>32449503
>arent cuckbait
haha...

>I wont interact unless invited to a collab, it's just not worth the headache
>OMG SHE CARES ABOUT US
kek what a pathetic fanbase. Kronies were all twittard faggots from the start anyways.Literal human garbage.

You can tell when tourists roll in because everything has to be about Mori for them
They cannot talk about anything anyone ever does without somehow bringing it back to her

>>32449630
I'm not bothered by the tweet, I'm bothered by her going back on her own words.
It makes me unable to trust anything she says.

>>32449550
Shes taking mori road

>>32449705
>>32449781
kek

You people are making assumptions about what she meant or didn't meant. The only definite thing is waiting if she says anything after the break.

>>32449760
Changing her mind is fine, but she has to say it first, because this makes every other thing she said on members sus.

>>32449705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
mori would be like
>yo kronii wanna collab with me with this new diss track we can dunk on the haters together

>>32449760
I genuinely think she never changed her mind AND she was being totally honest during the members stream. She's just really bad at communication.

>>32449550
Mori feeling guilty for dragging Kronii into the trash heap and trying to take her side, not knowing her them palling up will ruin Kronii's brand even more. Imagine what a bright future Kronii would've had if she palled up with Gura instead, or even Kiara.

Why is this general specifically so easy to bait and derail?
>Remember to report and ignore Schizos and Londoners. KRONII LOVE!
Why does nobody read that and >>32448124?
Is it possible that it's all just tourists arguing amongs themselves? Are jannies allowing this intentionally?

>>32449385
believe me, I learned my lesson from last time. It was an incredibly shitty thing for me to do and I regret it. She's improved her communication since then so I have total faith in her. Im still not unddoch though.

>>32449843
Holding something said in an unarchived member's stream that 99% of her community never saw isn't reasonable. Why should she be making grand announcements about changing her mind for something that the vast, vast majority of her fans never saw or heard about?

>>32449899
>really bad at communication
this is why manager told her to shut the fuck up

>>32449933
i really hope you did, because she might be in really bad state right now so hold your autism back.

>>32449938
>Holding something said in an unarchived member's stream that 99% of her community never saw isn't reasonable
yes it is

>>32449902
I prayed every day for Cunny, GOD DOESNT EXIST

>>32449705
you think she cares about anyone but herself?
god what deadbeat shit you've been smoking i need some of that pristine copuime

>>32449919
/∞/ - Ouro Kronii Hate General - 22:05
Kronii fans OUT

>>32449938
>Holding something said in an unarchived member's stream that 99% of her community never saw isn't reasonable
What? If even her most loyal fans can't trust the things she says, then what's the point?

>>32449827
She won't

Whether or not she fucked up communicating. She still said Twitter interactions wouldn't be a thing. This makes her look like a liar even if she didn't intend to be seen as one. Does this mean she's gonna backtrack on everything else she said? We don't know. But it's enough for us to be suspicious of her which is something she definitely wouldn't want.

>>32450020
Most of her fans don't care whatsoever, and a large part of them enjoy Tempus interactions

>>32449626
I had the CBT hat but stopped playing around the time of the first Halloween event. I still remember the pet and raid drama.

The way Nexon NA handled the shutdown was downright scummy and I will never touch maple 1 on the Nexon NA server again because of it and the relatively inner flame scandal in maple 1

>>32450034
>not really on twitter because i don't use twitter that much
retard

I miss the old days when everyone was in Takashi unison

>>32450048
Most of her fans don't care about their oshi telling lies or breaking promises?

>>32450048
She knows that, but she acknowledged her fans who don't like those collabs. It would be shitty of her to do shit like this without at least addressing why she lied to them.

>>32450081
>most of her fans don't care about her changing her mind something that they consider inconsequential or even a bad idea in the first place

>>32449933
what the fuck did you do?

>>32450072
Why don't you take into account what she said before that? Kronii saying something and then immediately contradicting it later is on brand for her.

WHY DO YOU GUYS KEEP MAKING NEW THREADS ARE YOU ASKING TO GET SHIT ON?

>>32450127
Gotcha, lying is ok so long as it's about something I personally don't care too much about

>>32450074
If everyone was more horny, they'd be less schizo

>>32449984
I've got no dog in this latest timeloop, this is completely innocuous to me

>>32450081
Don't even respond to the discord tranny, you can clearly see its not arguing in good faith

>>32450074
she killed it when she started covering her boobs with props.

>>32449899
She's an autistic korean weeb hikki who has never even had to think about dealing with this situation before. Of course she doesn't understand it or how to react to it. She "didn't want her words to be twisted" but then she talks in vague thoughts way too long and gives bad actors the words they need to twist.

>>32450170
There are some people in this thread RIGHT NOW who've been posting in Ouro Kronii General for over 8 hours every day this week.

Believe in someone you don't even know or ever meet irl lmao

Was the Superhot stream an apology stream?

>>32450191
Covering them just makes me want to tear the clothes off more

>>32450074
Then fight until you taking it back

>>32450210
yes i like being here and dramafags won't chase me out

>>32450210
I do for 12 minimum, while at work

>>32450223
No, it was a cope stream.
>EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT, RIGHT???
>I'M OKAY
>I'M ACTUALLY NOT OKAY

>>32450223
the superhot was meant for Regis and Vesper

>>32448718
She nevfer said such a thing. Proof?

>>32450170
desu if you don't make it it will be the trolls that make it instead then.

>>32450223
everybody was screaming sexxxxx
but i was kinda worried about her at some point.
shitshow as gotten to her.

>Says she's a jobber at communicating
>Jobs at communicating
Wait, people are actually making a fuss about this?

TimeRyS Love!

>>32450254
Never surrender to terrorists
Chase them away with horny

>>32450210
Quite the opposotie. I'm only not here 8 hours every day because of sleep

So do you guys think she's been told to take a break aka suspended for a week?
I feel even during the gura collab she isn't herself already maybe she knew already during that time.
Not really a Kronie but I want her to be in Gura faction since she is a great friend for Gura but this actions she is doing isn't helping her and Mori might lure her.
I just hope with all this chaos she would notice that this whole drama isn't worth it.

>>32450081
most of them don't even know she lied

Come here only for sexxx and tittsss

>>32447969
>Is she literally having sex with them right now? No. Are they coordinating this and laughing together as they deliberately hurt you? Yes.
you got that backwards my guy

>>32450337
please don't associate this whore with IRyS anymore, she's Mori tier now>>32449550

>>32450268
https://files.catbox.moe/8684g7.mp4
10 seonds in

>>32450391
*cums on you*

>>32450348
i think she need a break yes, she got thrown into a situation she doesn't really understand, in the middle of that whole culture war happening in HoloEN right now, i just hope that won't make her fall back into depression..

>>32450348
Why the fuck would she be suspended?

>>32450416
>won't interact in public
>maybe drop by in a stream and say hey
she's so retarded i love her

>>32450477
Because she was posting replies to clippers.

>>32450348
Go the fuck back to twitter where you belong, culture warrior

>>32450423
why not in him? creampies are much better and satisfying.

Maybe I should search for the exact timestamp but I do kind of remember Kronii saying that she won't interact with tempus in public. But she also said she'll pop into their stream and chat which seems public to me. Those two were said in the same stream and are seemingly contradictory. So it seems this whole thing is more of a miscommunication than some malicious lie or change of mind on Kronii's part.

I really hope she use that break to ask herself just one question.
Was that collab worth it ?

>>32450485
Again, she is talking about in places the Kronies would directly see it.

>>32448965
Pretty sane take, despite the memes shes doesn't really lie she mostly fails to communicate stuff properly which shes acknowledged as a problem many times. Either way it aligns perfectly with what she already said, its just we interpreted it as meaning no twitter interactions period. But only summary posters explicitly said "No more twitter interactions" which is where 90% of these idiots get their info from.

>>32450477
She's ruining her image more and more each day. Management was right to suspend her, but they should've changed the Twitter account password too.

This is part of gfe she promised you
But you're the one who get jealous not her lull

>>32450534
yes look >>32450416
she's just dumb

>>32450534
>>32450416

>>32450534
here
>>32450416

>>32450416
yep, that's definitely a lie, one that came from not really thinking about it. She needs to think before making promises like this, you get held to them, even if you see them as trivial.

So does she hate Gabe or no?

>>32450537
The most infuriating about this situation is that the one who invited isn't saying anything.

>>32450551
>>32448965
We're hitting cope levels previously deemed impossible

>>32450603
We have to wait and see, but I want to believe she doesn't, that stream can't be a lie, I refuse to believe it.

>>32450608
>cope levels
you think it's easy to understand this woman ?
you thought the "Kronii is retarded" was a meme ?

>>32450606
the one who invited her*

>>32450606
not her problems. she just sent an invitation. accepting or not is on Kronii

>>32450081
People here are too far gone, it's depressing. So many of you have spent hours trying to convince others that Kronii lied for a great, noble reason and wasn't just being an impulsive idiot. Having no self-respect and trying to champion that behavior is beyond cringe, come back to reality clockposters. She's changed her mind and you have a long vacation to decide if you're cool with her being all in on tempus interactions.

>>32450644
Gabe...

>>32450665
okay marcel

>>32450671
not gabe, I'm actually Ayin.

>>32450654
yes she is retarded. now she will have to pay the price for her retardation

>>32450663
at least say something man, defend her or something...

>>32450537
>Was that collab worth it ?
For someone who's mentioned feeling down more times than I can count I guarantee it was worth it. The laugh has been meme'd on to death but it's a good example of the pure unbridled fun she had that evening.

>>32450606
Realistically she can't really say anything.
If she goes on Twitter saying "Sorry guys i invited Kronii to collab" you know very well all the beggars and anti-idol will come out saying of toxic the holo fans are etc

>>32450716
you're both fags

>>32450663
>just sent an invitation
gonna have me believe Mori didn't saw all that shit coming ?

>>32450726
she can't really, if she says something it will just become bigger, people will start blaming her too (not instead, too).

If only she learned how to keep herself in check and didn't do that retarded damecon that somehow made everything worse. Should've stuck to her first statement and let all of this fizzle out. And now she's interacting with males on twitter.

>>32450726
She did. She said something about taking her to a spa on twitter.

>>32450567
>>32450589
>>32450596
Yeah. A stream is public. I have no idea what she's thinking when she's saying that. There's clearly some miscommunication going on.

>>32450716
Are you and chilosophy gonna do something?

>>32450760
she already was

>>32450726
it's going to make it worse
>You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court.

You know every single vtuber involved is on a private Discord server together shaking their heads being disappointed in what kind of a mess of a community they have built

>>32450712
Shouldn't you be watching tempus right now so you can move onto your next cope and claim you loved their collabs anyway? cuck

>>32450716
Why the fuck are you here?

This is November 2.0
We just gotta wait. All we're doing now is rehashing the time timeloops

>>32450828
cope faggot

She could have stayed on the path of the light and joined Ina, Fauna and Gura
But she wasn't strong enough, she joined the dark side leading to Ollie, Bae and ultimately Mori

You will not be able to save her at this point, she's too far gone. When the moment comes, strike her down - do not hesitate

>>32450734
Yeah if she was a decent person she would defend Kronii.

look how easy it is
>Sorry guys I invited Kronii for the collab and wasn't aware that it would cause problems to her fans, I should have explained the situation better since that happened to me before and I'm her senpai, I will be talking to her and advising her on how to proceed while talking to the other girls and senpais.

>>32450733
Does she never have fun with her other collab partner ? How has she gone 1 year collabing with people but never had fun or really laughed before that collab ?

>>32450859
Oh dear you're so angry. Will staying angry fix everything :). Hehe.

>>32450716
Learn from this shit and keep your mouth fucking shut. No more schizo rants, leave the shit be.

>>32450880
That's idiotic and would cause a giant shitstorm on leddit and twitter

>>32450775
I'm not, I'm chilling, but the lie is a big stinker, I have to wait until she comes back and her her reasons. if she completely memory holes it I don't think I can stay.

>>32450880
You're a special brand of retard, only fit for being cummed on

>>32450537
It is more likely she is taking this break to consider if she wants people who are so insecure that they freak out over one harmless stream in her fanbase at all.
If she had made a decision to ignore the stars entirely like Gura that would be one thing, it would be HER decision, but she didn't she welcomed them, interacted with them on twitter, dropped into their stream chats and said on stream that Vesper sounded cool and she is open to collabs.

It is perfectly fine to not want her to collab or to wish she had taken a different route but it is maximum fucking cringe to think you can bitch and moan and make long winded posts telling her to change her opinion after the fact, it reveals levels of insecurity that will make her resent you in the long run even if you get your way, you are essentially saying you cannot be trusted around men (other than me).
It is absolutely NO accident she chose the excerpt from that book that she did, you know the one that explicitly talks about how clingy controlling behaviour is just going to ruin any relationship you DO have with each other and hasten it's demise - it was a very obvious message to the most controlling of fans.

I am sorry to the fans for which male collabs or interaction is a deal breaker for but come on, the writing is on the wall at this point.

>>32450880
The fans have already said their peace and Kronii has responded to them. Everything else is loud retarded dramafags hoping for the next Rushia.

>>32450880
...Don't tell me you really expect a response like that from Mori "hit the lean hard" Calliope?

>>32450880
Kek, that'd absolutely cause a meltdown on /vt/ for whatever that's worth

>>32450979
as I said, if she was decent, but she has no feelings for others and no sense of honor.

>>32450880
>>32451037
remember this
>Anything you say can be used against you

>>32450833
I bake some threads anon...

Will she show up for Reine's birthday?

>>32450906
She's had fun of course but that collab was just on another level that hasn't been streamed before and honestly it's the biggest reason this is such a big deal. It would have fizzled out by now if there wasn't clips of someone as laid back as Kronii gushing in painful laughter.
She seems a very lonely person it can be as simple as being playful and flirty with a boy with an attractive voice brought out some feelings she never gets to explore.

>>32450880
that shit is way beyond "her fans" at this point.
unless we're going to pretend all the shit thread on reddit and twitter are from Kronies and not from faggots fighting their "culture war"

>>32451109
>never watched Kronii

So what's the actual current bond level Kronies?

>>32451098
Everyone really is /here/

>>32451181
8 or back to 1

>>32450972
>It is more likely she is taking this break to consider if she wants people who are so insecure that they freak out over one harmless stream in her fanbase at all.

What makes you think that? Most of the drama has been from tourists pressuring her on YouTube and Twitter. If she was really going after parasocials she wouldn't have been so adamant in defending Gabe and the other commentors.

>>32450726
when has involving mori in anything made it better?

>>32451098
Oh. I knew at least on other baker seemed to be parasocial with Kronii and didn't want the male collab to happen just like me.

>>32451181
It might as well be 0 at this point.

>>32451229
The porn is pretty good

>>32450972
It is honestly just managements fault. It should've been made clear from the outset what brand expectations were, and management shouldn't have allowed this halfway situation.
All that said, the difference between Kronii and Sana is I doubt Kronii has a comparable gig to Hololive. I'd be surprised if she graduated.

If you're going to collab with stars occasionally - okay. I'm not a fan of it, but if it's a rare thing and kept entirely professional I could live with it.
But just handle it better. Either don't talk about it at all and let your actions speak or say "I'll occasionally be in a group collab with the guys, I understand if not all of you like it, I hope you can just ignore those in that case and enjoy my streams otherwise still". Done, you'll get a tiny bit of drama if even in the beginning and that'll be it.

But no.
She had to promise members a thing and then go against it.
She had to insult idols and idol culture.
She had to make what could have been a mole hill a mountain through the way she handled it.

>>32451181
0, and the highest its ever been was like 2, before tempus dropped.

>>32450606
>>32450880
It's like making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Her making a statement turns this into something bigger than it really it, turning a mostly nothing burger into a something burger

>>32451295
silence is golden

>>32449444
kys you'll never be an idolfan, stay away from my culture

>>32451288
i'm not even a tourist but i don't like big breasts

>>32451257
WE ARE

>>32450972
How do people like you always manage to baby Kronii like the ''poor wittle babu who never do anything wrong ;---;''? You've acted like she's been clear and subtly to the point about this situation while completely ignoring her member stream where she pandered hard to the unicorns and lied about not interacting with them to make unicorns happy. How do you lot manage to blame someone else for her direct actions?

>>32451181
1 or 2 seems appropriate

>>32451370
Love man, it's a bitch emotion.

>>32451222
Also I'm a tourist who the fuck is Gabe. Not here as kronie or false flagger. Not here to stir up shit either, just curious how things are turning out.

>>32451168
I have, safely more than you anon. Why don't you try linking a thread where she laughed and gushed as hard as she did that stream? Concession accepted kek.

Based, based, based. My faith on Kronii is restored. Fuck unicorns, and to think I almost cancelled my membership over the cereal stream,

>>32451420
We have no clue either my man, but for now let Kronii rest and she what happens once she comes back.

>>32451109
Jesus, are you really insinuating she fell in love with the guy because she laughed 2dB higher than usual ?

>>32451448
I can get not agreeing with unicorns but outright anti-unicorns are cringe and should die

>>32451222
When did she defend him? Timestamp?

>>32451429
than you should know what she thinks of your 'take' right ?

>>32451486
He's never watched a Kronii stream in his life let alone the past month or so.

>>32451420
who he is is irrelevant just that he's the one who made the first comment about not liking homo collabs and it all exploded from there

>>32451486
Mori and Altare had to crank her volume up because she was talking so fucking quietly you could barely hear her normally.

>>32451473
What do you mean. How is everyone talking about someone they have no clue about...

>>32451486
this is one of the most retarded take since she has male friends IRL

You know, at least she isn't commenting on the member clip yet

>>32451567
I'm talking abut what is gonna happen, Gabe is just a long time fan.

>>32451578
she's 100% forbidden from doing that anymore

>>32451222
I don't think she wants to "go after" anyone, I think that members stream showed that despite their "selfish" opinions she cares enough about her fans to try to understand them and compromise at least a little bit.

I also think that in the end she does not view the kind of feelings that the no stars collabs at all people expressed as valid at all, she said as much in the stream, and that any compromises she was proffering in that stream were actually against her first instincts which is to interact when she has something to say and collab when asked.

I don't think she can actually keep the kind of people she tried to understand in her members stream happy unless that no interaction on twitter was an actual hard declaration of it will never happen instead of the noncommittal "because I don't use it that much anyway" answer she actually gave. And even if she did never interact on twitter the inevitable collabs even if not on her channel would rile them up again so in the end, what is the point?

>>32451349
seethe and and cope flesh cuck, your 'culture' is already a sad crumbling shadow losing to vtubing idols.

>>32451578
oh god please no....

>>32451578
Honestly that would be pretty funny at this point

You are on the verge my long removed brothers...
Are you really going to let this be your undoing?
Steel yourselves, and your soul will shine brighter than a thousand suns!
You may have lost your advantage but keep fighting for as long as you're able.
Don't let this be the bitter end...

Kronii is just incredibly stupid.
That's her only crime, being ignorant and stupid and I don't think she would disagree with that. Which is why talking with Mori is dangerous, but at the same time, there are intelligent people around her she can talk with like Ina or Fauna, so here's hoping that she listens to the good advice and ignores the bad.

>>32451519
Anon why couldn't you link a stream?
>>32451486
You too? What gives? You're both very upset but you can't make one simple rebuttal? I implied she greatly enjoyed flirting with a boy which she hasn't done in forever and you could easily prove me wrong with a stream! You can't though can you? Oh nyo...

>>32451578
Member clips are absolutely shit management would copyright strike. Kronii commenting on one would unironically be Rushia tier retardation

>>32451653
>intelligent
>ina

>>32451672
>flirting with a boy
yep definitely a retard

>>32451653
I hope she opened up to IRyS about it while playing tetris.

>>32451653
This is why your clockcucks. Giving free passes for being lied to and misled because she's so dumb and naive and a qt little thing.

>>32451740
That does not bode well for what happened afterwards.

>>32451597
Ah I see. Well. I'm an IRyStocrat and personally I like Kronii and think she's a good girl. I have a vested interest in how this turns out cuz I really don't want her to be used as an anti-"idol culture" martyr in the event that she does graduate. But I also like her and just don't want her to graduate, and I'm somewhat curious what would spark this when everything seemed hunky dory on the Gura stream.
I'm hoping it's just Mori style yabs. If she's pandering to unicorns in mem streams it indicates at the very least some desire to keep the financial part alive which... Honestly isn't a bad thing. But I do hope your oshi figures things out and doesn't end up resenting it

I'm just confused. Does she hate us or not?

Can't wait for how easily the people here will kneel once she streams again, all this talk will mean nothing in the end. You're all pathetic.

>>32451653
it sad because it seems they don't talk to each other about this stuff, they talk to management and we know they are a bunch of clueless retards

>>32451715
>still no stream
concession accepted cuck :)

Kronii's underboob halter is a miracle of the universe.

>>32451847
ain't gonna spoonfed shit to you little monkey :)
those who watch Kronii knows.

https://youtu.be/6PwKsasBlK4

are you still able to listen to it?

>>32451370
>completely ignoring her member stream
My post was almost entirely about that members stream so I don't understand how you can accuse me of "completely ignoring it unless you didn't read it.

Watch that stream again and tell me honestly how she pandered to the unicorns?
She tried to understand them I will give you that, but she called their perspective selfish and highlighted the people who were self-aware about that fact above any of the other posts.

We took two very different messages from that stream it seems.

>>32451609
Eh I disagree. I think in the event she draws a hard line and keeps to it (like just ignoring on Twitter) then people will be happy.

>>32451805
My mind is telling me no but my heart is telling me yes

>>32451902
yes

>>32451847
anon, the one piece...

>>32451902
Yes, for now I'm following her advice. live the moment. if it ends it ends.

>>32451370
>>32451609
Sorry thought I was replying to this

>>32451963
What about it?

>>32451653
It's too late to take the Fauna approach now.
Kronii is too much of a pushover to make her fanbase behave like Ina does.

>>32450170
I think these threads need to stop until things calm down.

>>32451653
If she did an apology (lol) you might have a point, but stupidity isn't really an excuse without one, all that means is she doesn't think much of you, that she isn't sincere.

>>32451906
Did you forget the part where she tried to compromise and add caveats to her interactions with Tempus? Are you purposefully ignoring that? She didn't just say "I'll collab with Tempus." She said "I'll collab with Tempus....BUT". Really if she didn't trying to add copes to it we wouldn't even be arguing over this.

>>32451516
No fuck them, they have given me plenty of reasons to hate them.
How do you think I feel when they call whores vtubers I like? When they tell them they should kill themselves, that they should graduate and that they are ruining vtubing?
They harrass vtubers, send hostile SC and try to shame them. I hate them with a passion.

>>32451822
>retards
management told her to keep her mouth shut. she should have done exactly that

>>32452080
I'm pretty sure 90% of those posts are from trolls.

>>32452080
I forgot the part where they insult me, and call me cuck, simp, etc. for watching a "bad" vtuber or for being a member.

Honestly I would just blame Gura obs getting fucked.
If the stream continued I think she would be in a better mood and not do this dumb things.

>>32452080
those are randoms who don't watch her

>>32452035
>all that means is she doesn't think much of you,
Lets be honest far too many posters here are perfectly happy with that. Ame's fanbase is the same, she didn't lie to them like Kronii did here but she decided to just start bitching at them then never acknowledge how hard she went on them.

>>32452080
Sounds like you hate "hostile people." Anyway, this is like being mad at gravity for hurting stuntmen. Look, these people make money hand over fist. Literally a hostile superchat is people sending them goddamn money. I think it's a small price to pay

Don't let this "drama" distract you from the fact that Lui and Korone are collabing right now.

>>32451902
On repeat when I'm stressed at work, yes

>>32450348
No, I don't think she was suspended. If she was she probably wouldn't have made tweets after that or update the schedule chat image.
But at the same time I also don't think she was planning on taking a break if you'd asked her a week ago.
But if that's what she needs to clear her head then it is what is it.

>>32452080
I've been insulted and demeaned more by Kronie homobeggers than Kronie unicorns, Actual DM's telling me to touch grass even if I didn't complain about Tempus at all but other shit.

>>32452080
aren't unicorns the one calling Kronii a whore though? and anti-unicorn are homobeggars who want more homo collab?
who is who again?

>>32452124
I am more just amazed you take it so personally. But yes you do give off that vibe

>>32452002
I'm sad nobody made a soundpost yet

>>32452238
>Kronie unicorns
that's because there is almost none ?
how many of those can we list ?

>>32452080
There's plenty of unicorn larpers around or unicorns that speak for other fanbases. If the dumbasses anti-ing/spaming her saying shit like only to go "see Kronii, guess that was a bad idea after all :) bet you don't wanna talk with them anymore" or "she needs to learn her reason, I'm right and she's wrong, I know what's best for her, I'm saving her :)" didn't tip you off, then I dunno.

>>32452059
My point is those caveats were totally against her first instinct and the result of her trying to walk a line to keep everyone happy when she really cannot.
I may be wrong on this but I think that despite caring about her fans and trying her best to keep the gachis happy she doesn't want to treat the stars as radioactive and set up all these rules for interacting with them, I think she wants to be able to collab and interact when she feels like it and that her actions generally reflect that to anybody watching her since their debut.

So I completely agree with you that her adding all the conditions is what is causing the problems, but I also think that if she is forced to take a hard line one way or another it will fall on the side of her inital position and will not be unicorn friendly in the least.

>>32452245
Yes but not Kronie unicorns, other fanbases won't have our perspective.

>>32451906
>Watch that stream again and tell me honestly how she pandered to the unicorns?
....Anon. Maybe the part where she lied and made a list of compromises on how to interact with holostars? It was something she fully brought up herself to make unicorns happy, noone would ever back her into a corner for not doing this. It was 100% pandering and then she decided to 180 without a care which is obviously going to get a reaction. It's her fault.

I'll be honest. I still think AX was worse than this.

>>32452327
I don't

>>32452327
I still don't know what even happened that people keep bringing it up for

>>32452302
so they are both shit and are using Kronii as tool to further their agenda

>>32452327
>nothingburger is worse than nothingburger
you people sure are easily riled up

>>32452314
>pandering to unicorn
retard

>>32452327
Ax?

>>32452327
Yep. I don't even know why there are people so mad right now since she lied that time too.

>>32452080
I hate trolls who try to hurt Kronii. Do you think the person who sent that condom money supa cared about Mori?

>>32452327
No way, was more anxiety driven but this hurts her character more.

>>32452355
(me) nevermind, did my reps

>>32452296
She shouldn't have compromised then. She should've been honest from the very start. She digged this fucking hole she needs to dig herself out and just plainly say she's not gonna compromise/

>>32452406
maybe she'll do when she figured out what she wants

>>32452375
She did the off collab stream that was the one thing that saved that from being a lie

>>32452383
AX hurt her character way more than this. To the point we had a containment breach accusing her of being a fucking liar. The only reason we memoryhole'd that fiasco was the members stream where she promised to be better.

>>32452356
Welcome to the culture war, we get to experience what teamates and deadbeats have dealt with for over a year now, and the only thing it's really making me think is that I want to kill anyone that participates in it on both sides

>>32452406
She already said her piece. She'll collab if invited, it won't be on her channel.

>>32452378
I'm more surprised these girls don't have mods making sure they never see outright hostile supas

>>32452314
why does every fucking tourist insist on throwing everything parsocial under the unicorn label, do you retard are all newfag or ?

>>32452459
>The only reason we memoryhole'd that fiasco was the members stream where she promised to be better.
hmmm where have i seen this before?

>>32452459
She didn't lie that time, she omitted like hell but she didn't lie.

>>32452470
>it won't be on her channel.
She backtracked on the Twitter thing ("no dude she totally didn't meant that"). Now I'm calling into question about this particular point.

>>32452459
What is ax

>>32452471
Unironically management's job, they're useless

>>32452521

>all the tourist asking what is AX

>>32452511
Oh she definitely lied.

>>32452518
It's all in question right now, even the "I don't find them attractive" part. you either take it all or doubt it all.

>>32452314
>>32452296
That is my feeling on the compromises. As far as the twitter thing, considering how noncommittal that answer was and how she qualifies it with "because I don't use it much" can you even really consider that a lie in the first place?
I agree that what she is doing now is hurting herself but don't forget that the only reason it is a problem in the first place is the inital reaction from a portion of her fans that probably need to just back off and let her make a decision at this point and stop watching if it is a dealbreaker, I think it is safe to say at this point she is never going to deal with this like Gura.

>>32452296
Your point has changed from the beginning, I have nothing to disagree with you now. You were amazed unicorns could possibly still think the way they do then acknowledged all the lies she told but have reassured me you 'feel' like she was just trying to make them happy. Even if you're correct the way you feel is as vague and subjective as the way her gachi's feel over getting promises from their oshi then being shat on a day later.

>>32452541
>Kronii went to Ax
>Suisei is known for her Axe

It was destiny for Suisei to /become/

what would a "culture nuclear war" be like?

>>32452609
gura collab with tempus

>>32452566
Which is the bigger problem really. The tweet itself is whatever, but since she changed her mind about that, the whole stream is just moot now

>>32452570
everyone was happy with her compromise in the members stream.

I will develop dementia with all the memories I have to memory hole.

>>32452609
well it needs more participants than just kronii for one

>>32452570
i was happy with the member stream, i am still.

>>32452570
Her noncommitment is the issue here. She fucks up the wording for one thing and suddenly everything she said in the Members stream is now being doubted. I'm questioning her sincerity even if we already know she's an autistic retard about explaining things.
I want her to say it. I want her to stop pussyfooting and just tell us off. It's so tiring. I just want it to end.

>>32452609
we need a NATO of vtubing

>>32452570
I wouldn't consider it a lie because I think she meant "I'm not on twitter a lot anyway, so I won't interact with them on twitter a lot".
Because it wouldn't make sense for her to say "I won't interact in public, except I'll still collab and be in the chat". It's a matter of quantity, not a complete cut.
And her tweeting that just proves the point, she'll interact but not much.

>>32452609
When people start actually doxing antis, then MAD will be achieved

hope you kronies have a newfound love for ntr if you didnt already ofc

>>32452592
Well when we are dealing with trying to parse her feelings on her gachis and the direction she wants to take in the future it is always going to be subjective but I am firing from the hip here and replying to the wrong people so apologies if I am coming off as disjointed.

Don't go menhera on twitter Gabe, wait for her to get back

>>32452742
i've always enjoyed NTR but i usually self insert as the ugly bastard so this isnt really working for me

>>32452183
I dont disagree, there are plenty of willing cucks who don't have the cojones to cut ties after emotional investment, that's why it works. The simple truth is being a grey is just fine, and you don't need to watch every stream, it doesn't give you more points or importance in their eyes. That is not the case for Gura and the JP's (most of them), but that is the way of it for EN, and I expect EN3 will be no different, in fact I expect it will be worse.

>>32452742
no matter how hard i try i can't see this situation as ntr

>>32452780
i self insert as the girl. the pleasure, the shame...

>>32452640
I don't even want to imagine how much HoloEN would change overnight if that happened

>>32452652
>>32452686
I am just asking you to consider that maybe she was not happy with it, and that maybe the compromises she kinda-sorta agreed to ended up leaving a sour taste in her mouth after the fact and that explains her behaviour on twitter.
>>32452696
Agreed, I want her to be clear too.

>>32452829
Wait, that's not the normal way to do it?
/a/ lied to me..

>>32452836
Holo JP would get a stupid big rise, people underestimate how many people want CGDCT only, because they never complain.

Can someone please explain ax

>>32452836
everything burns

>>32452853
It's fucking ridiculous how many times we've tried predicting her emotional state and opinions on things. She needs to fucking say it instead of us trying to assume it for her.

>>32452853
i'm not going to consider anything until i hear something clear