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So is Parasocial relationships and GFE okay when Vshojo do it to their own audience or what? Feels weird to attack others for doing it and then do it right back.

>> No.32001008

>>32000864
Can't believe Nazuna is converting Vshojo to embrace the gfe rather than having them whoring themselves.

>> No.32002239

don't know about this gal or vshojo, but the typical defense by women who shit on gfe and then get called out for tweets like this is "haha i was just being ironic bro take it easy sheesh"

>> No.32002342

>>32000864
>>32002239
Shes always done gfe

>> No.32002411

>>32000864
Where's the recent porn? kemono is outdated

>> No.32002501

>>32000864
As Veibae puts it ''It's ok when my friends do it''

>> No.32002542

>>32000864
Love Ame and Silver. They are my favorites

>> No.32002637

>one tweet = GFE

>> No.32002739

>>32000864
silver cute :D

>> No.32002823

>>32000864
Silver has been like this for a long time

>> No.32002845

>>32001008
Silvervale has always said shit like this
>>32000864
There hasn't been a single instance of Vshojo attacking GFE, or idols, or anything remotely related to them. You're a schizo that can no longer distinguish /vt/ shitposting from reality.

>> No.32003131

>>32002637
>https://www.patreon.com/Silvervale
just scroll down and look.

>> No.32003222

>>32000864
So could someone tell me why were people mad at silvervale a couple of days ago?

>> No.32003265

>>32001008
Nazuna going to unwhoring Vshojo

>> No.32003303

>>32002542
Chad

>> No.32003306

>>32003222
she made me cum too hard and my dick hurt

>> No.32003396

>>32000864
>joking about how you better always be a fan
>GFE! GFE!
How desperately lonely are people here?

>> No.32003521

>>32000864
They hate GFE when Nazuna does it, so I imagine they probably hate it when Silver does it too, but I don't know the details with her.

>> No.32003563

>>32002845
Silver attacked Hololive and lied about the restrictions it places on its talent with the implication being idol culture bad.

>> No.32003593

>>32003396
A few months back before Tempus was a thing I remember a very common opinion on /vt/ was "Ame is the best GFE because she doesn't say she loves you or flirts with her audience, she just talks about her hobbies". And it wasn't just one comment from one guy I saw once, I saw the same idea paraphrased a ton of times with a dozen people agreeing each time. In other words, if a woman speaks it is GFE according to /vt/.

>> No.32003795

>>32000864
Her model is so cute

>> No.32004094

>>32003593
That was always just a weird cope for not getting any fanservice.

>> No.32004102

>>32003563
Only people who took it as an attack are crazy holo fans who basically base their whole existence on Holo, while the interview was poorly worded what she said wasnt that far off from reality theres plenty of restrictions tho its Anycolor that also bans family on stream...she also did not imply idol culture = bad but said that VS offers an alternative which is true..again only schizos took it as such

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>>32003265
Save us Nazuna, unwhore the EN vtubing hos

>> No.32004217

>>32004102
>its Anycolor that also bans family on stream
For a good fucking reason after Hana's fiasco.

>> No.32004370

I don't care about the ENs, let them be who they want, JUST LET US HAVE NAZUNA AND STOP TRYING TO TAKE HER FROM US take your head out of your ass about le parasocial

>> No.32004636

>>32004217
i thought she has a good relationship with her father. what happened?

>> No.32004686

>>32000864
Since when has any of the Vshojo's made statements about GFE???

You act like because others dislike gfe content everyone else has too.

>> No.32004692

>>32004217
>fiasco
What happened?

>> No.32004735

>>32004636
She let him come on stream. He proceeded to announce that he's a member of the american socialist party or some shit and then went on a giga political spiel. At one point he literally started telling people to vote for Bernie. He did this several times too.

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>>32000864

>> No.32004808

>>32004686
the VSJ corporate apparatus thinks keys are le disgusting parasocials trying to destroy nazuna and control her as if she isn't the person we love most in this world

>> No.32004900

>>32004808
I've never seen anyone in Vshojo say this.

>> No.32004916

>>32004808
Source?

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>>32000864

>> No.32005157

>>32004900
I have
>>32004916
I say corporate apparatus for a reason

>> No.32005214
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>>32005157

>> No.32005237

>>32004102
As opposed to faggots like you who base their existence on Vshojo?

>> No.32005265

>>32005157
>I say corporate apparatus for a reason
Because they voiced in your head told you to?

>> No.32005357

>>32000864
Even better. Silver publicly shit on parasocial relationships a few years ago

>> No.32005492

>>32005237
holy projection

>> No.32005527

>>32000864
Nobody watches her lol

>> No.32005530

>>32005214
>>32005265
Read between the lines, I can't give the hard proof because it would hurt her

>> No.32005665

I don't even remember Vshojo fans having strong opinions either way on gfe stuff. Seemed like a subject more talked about around indie and hololive fans.

>> No.32005670

>>32003396
see: >>32003131

>> No.32005835

Alright, think of it this way. Rushia loves her viewers and keeps her promises to them. Mikeneko loves her viewers and keeps her promises to them. Nazuna loves her viewers but suddenly she's a bit not sure on the whole "promise to not hurt her viewers thing" so she sees some dumbass with an annoying voice and wants to push her luck. What changed? "Talent freedom". It's not real freedom, it's an ideological package that tells you you HAVE to collab with males and you CAN'T care about the opinions of your viewers or else you're not "free". Luckily she's starting to realize the scam.

>> No.32005973

She watches too much Hololive, hence the whore behavior

>> No.32007317

>>32000864
I want her to suck my cock.

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>>32007317
I want to suck her cock

>> No.32008009

This is where you end up with "Talent freedom" when you have no talent,

>> No.32008293

>>32004735
holy based

>> No.32008328

>>32008009
Isn't it funny that the most talented one (in my opinion, obviously) is the one that took a bit of "talent freedom" and spit it back out

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>>32003396

>> No.32008618

They don't hate "GFE", they hate le parasocials. If they could have their cake and eat it too they'd be as pro-"GFE" as any corporation. Just keep the merch coming.

>> No.32009464

>>32008618
"muh parasocials"
you dweebs should stop using terms you don't understand, parasicial relationships can go from admiration to religious devotion, and Vwhores do have "parasocials"aka gachikois, but they don't mind the girls being awful or complete whores

>> No.32009613

>>32004797
>>32002845
>Lie about nux
>Schizo out and blacklist pippa and her friend
>Ugly
How do you fags live with yourselves?

>> No.32009976

>>32002845
Ah, yes, of course; they don't attack gfe, they just attack gfe customers. A clever loophole

>> No.32010153

>>32000864
>Vshojo being against parasocial relationships
lol. lmao.
Stop watching Veibae.

>> No.32010269

>>32009464
>Vwhores do have "parasocials"aka gachikois
No kidding, and all their mods fucking despise them

>> No.32010321

>>32000864
I love her huge boobs and short hair. Don't care about anything else. In fact the rest can be tossed into a fire.

>> No.32010324

>>32010269
>mods hate themselves
nothing you are saying is new

>> No.32010461

>>32005237
thats some massive projection you got going there

>> No.32010815

>>32004217
I guess it depends on the people, cus take Silver for example one of the people she 'collabs' the most with is her actual mom and also brother but to a lesser extent and those are some sweet streams..tho shes the only one is VS who does so.

>> No.32011012

>>32000864
Parasocial relationships are pathetic and vtubers should be forced to help these people who are clearly sick, if you dont think they're sick then you are most likley one of the people who needs help

>> No.32011286

>>32000864
So nothing got done about this whore after the article?

vshojo truly can do nothing wrong!

>> No.32011432

>>32004102
>Only people who took it as an attack are crazy holo fans
You're right, she only falsely claimed Hololive is flawed in ways that it isn't actually flawed and Vshojo is better because it has muh sacred talent freedom meme even though the only thing Vshojo's talent freedom has ever amounted to is Nyanners pretending to milk herself that one time. That last part about Nyanners is me editorializing. Clearly Silver's dishonest attack on Hololive wasn't meant to be construed as an attack on Hololive.

>> No.32011829

>>32000864
I love my wife Silver

>> No.32012823

>>32008009
Are you implying anyone in the industry has talent?

>> No.32013116

>>32005530
Hurt who? Just because Nazuna is being manipulated doesn't mean we'll hate her

>> No.32014529

>>32013116
It's not about hate, it's about causing very specific problems for her and her fans

>> No.32014753

Faggots will look at this thread and think there's non-shitty Holofags

>> No.32015947

>>32000864
Didn't she go through five boyfriends and none of them stuck around?

>> No.32017726

Silvervale is a unironic femcel and this is the only way she can get kind of attention, please understand.

>> No.32017802

>>32017726
>unironic femcel
DYRB?

>> No.32022874

Cringe

>> No.32028507

>>32000864
>attack others for doing it
Who did she attack?

>> No.32028721

>>32011286
Still friends with multiple holos, nijisanji talents and didn't even get blacklisted lmao

>> No.32028911

>>32011286
What do you expect limp dick Jap companies will do? Get an erection?

>> No.32029030

>>32000864
pretty much thats how life goes. you call out something and then you do it right back because it works. in the age of the internet words matter more than actions

>> No.32029154

>>32015947
One of them threw a chair at her after getting mad playing league of legends.

>> No.32029698

>>32004636
>>32004692
Her dad is a sexpat commie.

>> No.32032611

>>32029030
Holy underage

>> No.32034133

>>32000864
https://youtu.be/ctPZNF41D1A

>> No.32034204
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32034204

>Make up the rrat that Vshojo hates GFE
>Now get angry at Vshojo because you found out they do GFE
Bravo, vee tee

>> No.32036967

>>32000864
>vtuber: I AM NOT YOUR GF YOU FUCKING VIRGIN INCEL
>also the same vtuber:

>> No.32039872

creative freedumb

>> No.32040081

>>32000864
>vwhorejo fags are fucking hypocrites
what's new? they have been always like this

>> No.32040236

"Talent Freedom campaigns" proves just their jealousy toward hololive.

>> No.32040379

So vale does GFE...but she's also a whore because Vshojo and she's one of those "sex vagina cum funny" people.
So where are the people calling her fans cucks? Actually, why is "cucking" seemingly exclusive to Hololive?
The more time goes on the more the double standard is starting to show.

>> No.32040526

>>32015947
Yeah, all of them were me

>> No.32040693

Vwhorejo needs to go to the middle east and learn a lesson or two.

>> No.32040710

I mean come on almost ALL of them were Fleshtubers under the same name showing their cleavage for clout, then they jumped on the VTuber bandwagon because they realized they don't need to put on makeup for hours or show actual skin to cuck people out of money, and you're surprised they pander?

>> No.32044053 [DELETED] 

https://discord.gg/CtJexgx
.

>> No.32044680

Creative freedom is code for basic bitch twitch thottery.

>> No.32045032
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Even onlyfans whores do GFE.
It's seen as service.
Because GFE started as an escort thing. Adopting it into vtubing was just the next step and it's what corrupted vtubing in the first place.

It's why chuubas like Rushia and Vox are so damaging to the image and sustainability of vtubing as a whole.

They create copycats and also burn out their audiences.

>> No.32045397

>>32034204
Most of these threads are people getting upset over something the voices in their heads told them.

>> No.32045545

I wish you schizo anons would admit that you don't even know what the fuck Vshojo is, you just hate Veibae because she talked about having sex once.

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>>32000864
>Silver GFE
Just make sure you can afford the $1,000 a month donos and all the therapy you'll need after she kicks you to the curb.

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>>32036967
>>vtuber: I AM NOT YOUR GF YOU FUCKING VIRGIN INCEL
not Silver

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>>32000864
I'm gonna love those BOOBS forever

>> No.32049243

>>32045930
Just like a real gf...

>> No.32049452

I only remember her as this ugly coomer bait girl back then because her model and personality back then were so bad

>> No.32049616

>>32003222
Said in an interview that girls in vshojo can be themselves and have relationships and talk about their parents unlike hololive

holobronies seething ensues

>> No.32049862

>>32040710
Can you link me to the silvervale, froot, zentreya, melody and ironmouse fleshtuber streams under their same name showing their cleavage for clout?

>> No.32051115

>>32017802
?

>> No.32053097
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32053097

I don't watch VSJ but from their spergouts on twitter about parasocials and then to shit like this it basically seems like a
>I fucking hate __________ but it's ok when my friends/coworkers do it!
same with the whole "anti-loli" stance, while Nazuna exists

They're all hypocrites, who cares what they think or say, they're made to be fucked and came to not to be listened to

>> No.32053346

>>32053097
I don't think any of them really think too hard about anything they say, it's mostly just whatever instinctual things comes into their head during the moment. Just remember that most streamers are low IQ dropouts who chose this career because they have nothing else going for them but looking/sounding pretty and you'll realize that you should never listen to anything these people say "seriously".

>> No.32053390

>>32001008
I doubt VShojo has a consistent stance on anything, it's not really an "organization" as such. Something veibae said doesn't reflect Silvervale's opinion

>> No.32053419

>>32053390
Sorry replied to wrong person, fml

>> No.32053429

I don't think any of them have openly shit on gfe?
Maybe vei but fuck vei

>> No.32053459

>>32000864
Is this the same person who screamed down her whole chat lol? Shameless.

>> No.32053550

>>32040710
Ironmouse was streaming way before vtubing blew up
Augst 2017 to be exact

>> No.32053569

>>32002542
Based

>> No.32053902

>>32015947
>>32029154
And none of them played with her breasts

I'm still wondering how that's possible

>> No.32053913

>>32003593
That was just condomate cope

>> No.32054377
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32054377

>>32053097
>anti-loli
?

>> No.32054445

>>32054377
UUOOOH

>> No.32054871

>>32000864
Parasocial bad when the viewers expect something of the streamer.
Parasocial good when the viewer is throwing money at the streamer.
Vshojo has always been like this.

>> No.32055745

>>32053902
They were intimidated by them.

>> No.32056961

This thread definitely seems sane

>> No.32057083

>>32002342
>Shes always done gfe
I don't think being a whore and a furry counts as GFE

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32057410

>w*man says a thing
>w*man does not apply this to herself
>w*man means something else
>w*man lacks a moral compass whatsoever as long as it benefits her
how shocking

>> No.32057495

I can't tell if this is /r9k/ or /vp/ anymore

>> No.32058107

>>32003521
Who is "They"?

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32060472

>>32000864
>we aren't like hololive
>*proceeds to be like hololive*

>> No.32060717

>>32008461
GFE is like Rental Girlfriend, you have to pay for it like paying a hooker for comfort to talk to instead of sex

>> No.32061308

>>32053459
Lmao link?

>> No.32061380

>>32053902
It's possible because she says it to cope.

>> No.32061903

>>32060472
>acting like hololive is being a whore
I kek

>> No.32061976

I saw in another thread anon posted a rrat of her having esex with Patreon subs. One before that, as well, with her becoming sexual with another viewer. She isn’t dropping being a whore for GFE, she is a whore GFE. Pay her and she fucks you like a hooker on the street

>> No.32063265

>>32061976
What thread? Link?

>> No.32064798

>>32063265
he made it up

>> No.32064875

Looks like Kronies found a new home. VShojo has multiple GFE streamers, the uncontested queen of GFE, and literally no male branch. Come home, lost goslings.

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>>32064875
>literally no male branch
>Zenn exists

>> No.32066111

>>32065142
>Implying you wouldn't Zen's feminine penis
It's not gay bro

>> No.32066920

Silver got kind of fucked, she used to do a lot of gfe, realy hardcore gfe, love messages in discord, you could buy her pajamas and she would wear it and take photos of herself, hanging out for hours in vr or playing games. But when vsj started to become popular a lot of people started to shit on her for it (including some of the other vsjs making comments about how they disapprove of it but never saying it's about her) and for baiting parasocials which made her stop most of it culminating in her on stream talk about parasocials, that was a while ago and afterwards she slowly started doing gfe again. She now says her streams are suposed to be put on a second screen and you should feel like you're hanging out and gaming or working while your gf is playing in the same room.

>> No.32066970
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>>32009613
>the pippigger reveals himself
Pippa is blacklisted from every corpo because she’ll talk shit about your group on-stream, collab-beg you the next day, then talk shit about your group again when you say no (because you heard her talking shit before). The only unfair thing about her character arc is how she’s managed to smear her co-workers by association.

>> No.32067040

>>32066920
yeah there's a reason why half of vshojo practically ignores her existence

>> No.32067063

>>32066920
that's sad, so the journalist just twisted her words?

>> No.32067256

>>32009976
What's wrong with that? Parasocial weebs / gachikoi are pathetic pieces of shit who deserve to be attacked.

>> No.32067291

>>32067063
That journalist obvoiusly hates hololive and was being confrontational in the way he wrote the article but I think it was partly her not expressing herself properly when she wanted to just say that you czn do whatever you want

>> No.32067332

>>32011286
>got done
Yeah? What were you expecting would happen?

>> No.32067374

>>32004692
Hana is only half-Indonesian, and that’s because >>32029698. Livers can talk about their families just fine but we’ll never see a Niji bring a parent on-stream again, at least not in an English language stream.

>> No.32068046

>>32066920
To be honest, sometimes Silver gives off "I'm lonely and my chat is my only social interaction" vibes. I could be wrong, but considering her menhera breakdowns I just feel kinda bad for her.

>> No.32069516

>>32067040
For good reason.

>> No.32069543

>>32054871
That's everybody you moron. "Expect something of the streamer" usually means "demanding they not collab with males because it makes me jealous". There's a limit to acceptable streamer-viewer relationship behavior and it pretty much ends when you start obsessing over them like they're actually your girlfriend rather than just an "experience".

>> No.32069722

>>32066920
Holy making shit up, at least you convince a few morons to believe you.

>> No.32069782

>>32069722
What part was made up?

>> No.32069808

>>32000864
these whores have sex with a different man every day, they don't understand intimacy. They think shit like this are just jokes, they don't even understand that some people takes them seriously.

>> No.32070229

>>32066920
That's fucking sad
>>32069808
Woman moment

>> No.32070475

>>32069782
All of it.

>> No.32070524

>>32060472
Vshojo has more GFE than all of Hololive now

>> No.32070708

>>32070524
I'm starting to think none of you know what GFE even is

>> No.32071090

>>32070708
>>32046680
>>32061976
>>32066920
What part of this ISN'T GFE?

>> No.32071356

>>32061976
She makes sexual jokes sure but the closest she's come to doing anything sexual with fans is watching hentai together and muting herself for a while

>> No.32071670

>>32061976
>>32066920
So you're saying if I pay her enough she'll show me her boobs?

>> No.32071706

>>32066970
Don't use my oshi to falseflag vshitter.

>> No.32071825

>>32071670
Maybe, but seeing as she has multiple people who give her around $20k a year each you'd have to outdo them.

>> No.32072016

>>32067040
Timezones are a bitch, I think it's fair to say she lives in middle america while the rest are either EU or East coast
>>32068046
Thata because she is, we are talking about a woman who surrounds herself with plush toys, who doesn't go outside enough to have keys and doesn't even go out to do her groceries. Can't even cook

>> No.32072045

>>32071090
it's just roleplay, holoturd

>> No.32072908

>>32072016
Damn, that makes me feel bad for shitting on her for being parasocial. Still not healthy, but it sounds like it isn't healthy for anyone involved instead of the usual "give me money" shit.

>> No.32073493

>>32071090
>linked posts with totally made up shit
I'm convinced.

>> No.32074092

>>32073493
Do you have proof it isn't made up?

>> No.32074665

according to normies, vtubers can only do gfe and bait gachikois and unicorns as long as they're actually whores who secretly despise those types of fans and only wish to exploit them for their money. if the vtuber doing gfe seems actually respectful of those fans and doesn't openly slut herself around, then it becomes creepy that she's actually showing some sort of mild respect to them instead of hating them and taking their money anyway

>> No.32074986

GFE isn't invitation to parasocial

>> No.32075718

>>32049616
... I mean she is right.

>> No.32075893

>>32009613
>>Schizo out and blacklist pippa and her friend

Proof?

>> No.32075925

>>32049616
Is that a misquote? Because Hololive talks about their parents all the time.

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How do you guys give enough of a shit to obsess over us? I have no idea what other groups are up to.

>> No.32078917

>>32071706
>pippigger pretends he's a pomudachi
pull that shit again and the next time you see your family they'll be frozen limbs on a mortuary table

>> No.32079598

>>32074665
These normies are staff for vtuber corporations and they hate (you)

>> No.32079752

>>32000864
Rules for thee but not for me

>> No.32080715

>>32075925
supposedly the interviewer had a journo moment
and then he "tried" to fix it only to make it worse
no idea what she actually said in the interview, not sure if she talked about it either

>> No.32080786

>>32074665
>doesn't openly slut herself around
So not Silver then?

>> No.32082861

Is this the closest we'll ever get to a dedicated Silvervale thread?

>> No.32083461

>>32000864
>32000864
When did she get her new model?

>> No.32083545

>>32083461
A while ago for her birthday

>> No.32083622

>>32083545
It seems worse than her old one why change?

>> No.32084245

>>32064798
Posting it gets you banned for doxxing, do your reps.

>> No.32084837

>>32084245
Isn't it something she did using her Vtuber persona though? Or is discussing paywalled content not allowed?

>> No.32084931

>>32066920
Nice fucking made up scenario schizo.

>> No.32088342
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32088342

Alright, people say a lot of things about this chuuba, but who's tellng the truth, and who's lying? Is she a cunning parasocial-baiting temptress, or a unwashed and pathetic menhera? is she a literal prostitute, or a mentally ill femcel? Is she dim but sweet, or vulgar and shameless? Does/did she e-fuck her fans for money or not? Was she a literal con hooker or not? Did the five guys REALLY not touch her tits, or is that just cope? Does she just have bad luck with men, or is she just that crazy? If she's got such a good relation with her family, how come we've never seen a father figure? Is she really as stupid as people say? All these questions and more will never be answered because despite having so much lore attached nobody fucking watches her shit.

>> No.32088446

>>32088342
The unironic answer to every one of those is yes.

>> No.32088905

>>32074092
>prove it isn't made up
Not how shit works.

>> No.32089080

>>32083622
https://youtu.be/vE-aMEfCnB8

It isn't, at all.

>> No.32089131

>>32000864
Commit to sneebephilia.

>> No.32091157

>>32088342
Yes.

>> No.32092831

>>32089080
Shes so jiggly, also is she even bustier now?

>> No.32093313

Does anyone know if there's a full version of this?
https://vocaroo.com/11xzPuijGgVp

>> No.32099574

>>32093313
that is the full version

>> No.32100899

>>32092831
She's always had gloriously big tits, I think this is just Nanoless' style of boobs which makes them look bigger and the rigger really emphasized a smooth bounce to them which makes them look heavier.

>> No.32101465

>>32099574
Dang. What's the context?

>> No.32102784

>>32000864
What do you think her milk tastes like?

>> No.32106071

>>32000864
>is Parasocial relationships and GFE okay when Vshojo do it
yes

>> No.32106159

>>32079598
This anon speaks the unfortunate truth

>> No.32106265

parasocial = I dont like dealing with the negatives of being an online commodity, I want only the positives

>> No.32106523

>>32069722
>>32084931
>>32064798
>>32073493
Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense.

>> No.32106662

>>32106523
In this case, some dipshit making shit up absolutely is.

>> No.32107046

I don’t know about whatever drama you’re talking about and I don’t care
All I know is that I masturbate to Silvervale’s fat tits

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