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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>99,006: Pekora (Hololive)>44,569: Toko (Nijisanji)>41,757: Subaru (Hololive)>40,711: Chima (Nijisanji)>39,724: Akina (Nijisanji)>38,533: Salome (Nijisanji)>37,977: Elira (Nijisanji)>37,956: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>37,513: Ange (Nijisanji)>35,669: Ryushen (Nijisanji)>35,309: Petra (Nijisanji)>34,760: Millie (Nijisanji)>33,768: Yugo (Nijisanji)>33,261: Hololive (Hololive)>32,448: Nara Haramaung (Nijisanji)>31,316: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)>29,925: Pomu (Nijisanji)>28,541: Enna (Nijisanji)>28,165: Genzuki (Nijisanji)>27,846: Shu (Nijisanji)>26,997: Lamy (Hololive)>26,640: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>26,601: Asahina Akane (Nijisanji)>26,581: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>26,353: Nagao Kei (Nijisanji)>25,372: Amicia Michella (Nijisanji)>25,246: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>24,493: Hakase Fuyuki (Nijisanji)>24,028: Uki (Nijisanji)>23,977: Mio (Hololive)>23,378: Reimu (Nijisanji)>23,267: Gura (Hololive)>22,478: Furen (Nijisanji)>20,908: Derem Kado (Nijisanji)>19,133: Kronii (Hololive)>18,870: Kanata (Hololive)>18,373: Miko (Hololive)>18,308: Rion (Nijisanji)>18,023: Lain (Nijisanji)>17,974: NeruMero (Indie)>17,546: Suha Min (Nijisanji)>17,147: Noel (Hololive)>17,026: Sister Claire (Nijisanji)>16,873: Hana Macchia (Nijisanji)>16,867: Xia Ekavira (Nijisanji)>15,697: Watame (Hololive)>15,590: Levi Elipha (Nijisanji)>15,524: Shigure Ui (Indie)>15,492: Layla Alstroemeria (Nijisanji)>15,243: Hayato (Nijisanji)>14,834: Umise Yotsuha (Nijisanji)>14,337: Hal (Neo Porte)>14,319: Reza Avanluna (Nijisanji)>14,248: Hayase Sou (Nijisanji)>14,119: Flare (Hololive)>13,475: Reid (Neo Prte)>13,014: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,511: Kanda Shoichi (Nijisanji)>12,396: Korone (Hololive)>12,168: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12,148: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>12,080: Kobo (Hololive)>11,911: Met (774 Inc.)>11,887: Morinaka Kazaki (Nijisanji)>11,557: Suzuya Aki (Nijisanji)>11,385: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,750: Koyori (Hololive)>10,591: Gaon (Nijisanji)>10,264: Watame (Hololive)>10,206: Luna (Hololive)
/#/ is declining
>>31903787>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenics5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,506 - New outfit reveal20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 50,411* - 3D live23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday stream24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft25) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,613* - Hololive Summer26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 118,790 - Niji Koshien 2022 exhibition match27) Noel (Hololive) - 70,474 - 3rd anniversary 3D live28) Pekora (Hololive) - 99,006 - Sankisei Pekora quiz collab>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji5x: Pekora3x: Noel2x: Kuzuha1x: Chima, Flare, Fuwa, Hololive, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Shion, Towa, Toya>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY148x: Hololive82x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER28x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>31903831>4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 55,526* - Niji radio calisthenicsKon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun!
>>31903825hey man
>>31903787>AUGUST 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 114,404 - 4th anniversary 3D live2) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,664 - Yokai Watch Puni Puni Hololive collab3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 112,507 - Niji Koshien practice4) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,896 - Rust5) Lain (Nijisanji) - 104,128 - 3D debut6) Flare (Hololive) - 65,353 - Sankisei Flare quiz collab7) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 113,448 - Niji Koshien practice8) Towa (Hololive) - 102,915 - 3D birthday live9) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 101,123 - Niji Koshien practice10) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,216 - Rust11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 101,488 - Niji Koshien 2021 pre-show12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 207,540 - Niji Koshien 2022 A-league13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 245,881 - Niji Koshien 2022 B-league14) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 321,058 - Niji Koshien 2022 finals15) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 43,807 - Nijinoon16) Polka (Hololive) - 73,319 - 2nd anniversary 3D live17) Shion (Hololive) - 97,399 - 4th anniversary 3D live18) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,357 - Rust19) Noel (Hololive) - 68,506 - New outfit reveal20) Mio (Hololive) - 53,520 - 3D birthday party w/Gamers21) Noel (Hololive) - 64,116 - Sankisei Noel quiz collab22) Chima (Nijisanji) - 50,411 - 3D live23) Toya (Nijisanji) - 63,664 - Birthday24) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,736 - Minecraft25) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,613* - Hololive Summer26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 118,790 - Niji Koshien 2022 exhibition match27)Noel (Hololive) - 70,474 - 3rd anniversary 3D live28) Pekora (Hololive) - 99,006 - Sankisei Pekora quiz collab>PER COMPANY16x: Hololive12x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji, Pekora3x: Noel2x: Kuzuha1x: Chima, Flare, Lain, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Polka, Toya, Towa, Shion>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY149x: Hololive81x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER29x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome14x: Miko9x: Nijisanji, Subaru6x: Hal, Marine5x: Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>31903109this thread convert me to nousagi
HagRTSCookingAuburn
>>31903825Hey man
>>31904058Regis... Just drop Zelda...
>>31903874i'm going to miss you in 4 days bro
>>31903109I usually just check the thread every now and then to look at numbers my oshi will unlikely reach in her vtuber lifetime
>>31904058Decent schedule but fucking horrific layout
>>31903985# IS pekora general
Raid?
>>31904123eigo jouzu sheep my beloved
>>31904058>Zeldabut why
>>31904158Altare raid
>>31904158Yes, from regis
>>31904058Lot's of minecraft at least
>>31904158Guessing you weren't here last thread, but yes it was a raid from Regis.
>>31904163JP7 pls yagoo she has learned her mistake
>>31904158Regis raid from his Valo collab with Kobo.
>>31904058>Zelda>Gungeonarent those numbers poison?
>>31903985バゼド。 We should do a monthly poll of that thing during JP primetime on a not so buffed day.
>>31904058Beautiful face and eyes. >no homo
>>31904167It's his favorite series. He flat out said he wanted to stream all the Zelda games. He is even fully aware it's number poison, but doesn't care.
>gets raided from a collab zoomie shooter game to solo FTL>gets 1750~ viewers>only bled 500~ of them over 40 minutesI expected at least 1000~ to go thats impressive retention for a stream with such a stark difference of content
>>31904216She thought she got some quick cash and didn't trust the holobox. She already had her chance. Maybe she can be a 3 view at the other black company nijisanji
>>31903109>do you regular other threadsYes, catalog to my misfortune , and the Suisei general>does # make you enjoy streams moreNot really, it's just another layer. Although, it's really cool to see how far Suisei goes, specially since she was once a 2view. Is like watching the story as it happens
>>31904336it has to be bots, right? this is what a natural raid looks like.
>>31904341>Maybe she can be a 3 view at the other black company nijisanjiyou joke but that would unironically be an upgrade to her current state
>>31903887easy win
>>31904336Timing was not too terrible, it was about midway through the run so a lot of the fluff got cut out. He's on the last boss right now.
>>31904382Wasn't joking. It's the only option left for her as a female vtuber not into fps
I think I posted in the wrong thread. Did Vesper and Pomu go 1v1? Who won?
>>31903109>do you regular other threadsNot really regular but as an unmedicated fellow, Haachama World is my home base. Haachama’s schedule and mine misaligned since her return to Japan so I have to keep tabs on her streams and tweets in that thread >also there for her lewds
>>31904273Zelda yes, Gungeon at this point is a 7am PST stream only and always get a minimum of 1.2k so that's that
>>31904461Vesper got a higher peak cause of the raid. But pretty much the same.Ignore Vox somehow coombaiting on runescape.
>>31904514gungeon could be decent long term if he's consistent with it and he plays other roguelites in the same timeslots after he's done with it. number poison for now though.
>>31904382>>31904455Not the only way up. NoriPro girls may not get high CCV but they DROWN in superchat money. Non-Chan runs a very tight operation there, not even Edo era Oirans had an operation as profitable as NoriPro
>>31904562gotta hand it to him, he gives his fujos EXACTLY what they want and then does basically a post zatsu game that he wants to play.
>>31904461>>31904562Oh yea and the Big foot stream is a 4 man collab with 3 PoV, the one not streaming being Vox it seems.
>>31903787looking at this tally hurts my brainposting some tokos for a rare silver
Calling it now, the 3d live on 31th will beat suisei's peak
>>31904660Every time
>>31903787>>31904704
>>31904660not even surprised
>>31904720it's on the main channel. it won't even hit 50k. fuwa will win this easily.
>>31903825Didn't the whole misuse of "reclining" originate from an old /hlg/ Coco shitpost
>>31904720don't see it with the holo main channel giga-debuff>>31903787>>31904764
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>8/28 Daily Tally35,293: Petra (Nochairsanji)33,759: Yugo (Nochairsanji)30,229: Elira (Nochairsanji)29,925: Pomu (Nochairsanji)28,725: Millie (Nochairsanji)28,541: Enna (Nochairsanji)27,838: Shu (Nochairsanji)24,028: Uki (Nochairsanji)23,378: Reimu (Nochairsanji)23,267: Gura (Hololive)19,133: Kronii (Hololive)13,074: Vox (Nochairsanji)9,490: Mori (Hololive)8,951: Regis (Hololive)7,752: Ina (Hololive)7,451: Ike (Nochairsanji)5,589: Selen (Nochairsanji)5,265: Selen (Nochairsanji)5,076: Magni (Hololive)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR AUGUST1. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,137 (Getting Over It w/Fauna)2. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,262 (Minecraft)3. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 16,007 (Genshin Impact)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 21,228 (Unarchived Karaoke)5. Mumei (Hololive) - 28,009 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)6. Fauna (Hololive) - 12,588 (Unarchived Karaoke)7. Ike (Nochairsanji) - 58,292 (700k subscribers karaoke celebration)8. Gura (Hololive) - 16,812 (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)9. Vox (Nochairsanji) - 27,034 (NijiEN tier list w/Ren)10. Kronii (Hololive) - 14,179 (Minecraft)11. Gura (Hololive) - 22,754 (The Mortuary Assistant)12. Gura (Hololive) - 23,030 (Rust)13. Luca (Nochairsanji) - 25,830 (Koshien group B watch along)14. Elira (Nochairsanji) - 36,752 (Koshien finals watch along)15. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,717 (Minecraft)16. Fauna (Hololive) - 14,780 (Minecraft)17. Gura (Hololive) - 21,105 (Rust)18. Mysta (Nochairsanji) - 13,686 (Genshin Impact)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,483 (Rust)20. Amelia (Hololive) - 13,706 (Rust)21. Baelz (Hololive) - 21,713 (Urban Dictionary Game Show w/Gura, Mumei, and Kronii)22. Gura (Hololive) - 20,498 (Rust)23. Baelz (Hololive) - 36,453 (Council 1st Anniversary Celebration w/Kronii, Mumei, and Fauna)24. Kronii (Hololive) - 13,888 (Rewatching Debut)25. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 43,075 (New outfit reveal)26. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,467 (12 hour anniversary celebration)27. Rosemi (Nochairsanji) - 40,274 (New outfit Reveal)28. Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Singing the Chinese National Anthem)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 19Nochairsanji - 9Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Gura3x: Baelz, Fauna2x: Mysta, Kronii, Petra1x: Ike, Vox, Luca, Elira, Amelia, Rosemi>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 33Fauna: 26Gura: 25Mysta: 23Baelz: 19Luca: 14Kronii: 12Vox: 12Shu: 10Petra: 10Elira: 9Ina: 8Ike: 8Rosemi: 8Amelia: 7Alban: 4Kiara: 4Noir: 3Selen: 3Mori: 3Ren: 3Yugo: 3Axel: 1Magni: 1IRyS: 1Pomu: 1
>>31904720>main channeldont think sobut a surprise botan rust genocide might seal the deal for this month
>>31904660>Elira getting mogged by Kyo holy based
>>31903109>do you regular other threadsWas strictly a JP only watcher back from pre-hlgg split. Even after vt was created I stayed in hlg far longer than what is deemed healthy, enduring the daily schizo posts and green avatarposting. vt's hlgg has little to none JP discussion so there were no where else to go, that is until I found # and ditched hlg for good. I've realized I'm a DD without any significant attachment to a single holo so the splits don't do it for me.>does # make you enjoy streams moreYes # is better than the two big generals even with the baits and schizos, and lets me catch up with news and current state of vtubers in general.Have a sankisei for this drivel.
>>31904835TOKO, TAKE MY CHILDREN.
>>31904858>Aoe2I know im just suffocating on copium on this point but what if the recent interest in ID and EN with AoE means that the hag rts thing is real
>>31904838en tallyfaggot being salty as fuck always makes me smile desu>>31903787>>31904835
>>31904838Can't believe Enna and Reimu are the worst Niji girls singers
>>31904858https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1563983417305440258>Kind of unsure about some things so there might be changes but here it is! TBD is hopefully a collab~!Pomutori is finally happening.
>>31904858Outside of Cult of the Lamb, it seems pretty good. Looking forward to seeing what numbers she will get with AoE.
>>31904838cute petra image
>>31904660Nijisanji has no solo content that's worth watching.
>>31904858Pekora must have planned something on the 1st of September with the ones playing Rust. She said in the DQMJ stream that she still had plenty of things to try in the game and she wanted to end on a good note the 1st of September.
>>31904936It's an excuse for Kiara to collab with Reine later down the line.
>>31904884It is Manjisanji at the end of the day, Pomu survived due to her Holo-lite powers.
>>31904887kys crossposter
>>31904968Yea she got some good ones actually, here have another.
>>31904892stop posting suichan, we know>>31903787>>31904939
>>31904944>pomutorianon you got to let that go, she was talking about having another collab in the future with reine and pochi in one of her mengen streams
>>31903787>>31905018
>>31904562>somehow coombaiting on runescapeListen, I don't really like the guy, but I can respect the fact that he managed to monetize my high school habits (OSRS and masturbation) to such a successful degree.
>29th Minecraft Summer Festival>30th Koyori's Rust Team Battle>31st Mori's Rust Pool Party>1st Rust Season 3 finaleDamn, Hololive is going for the kill this week.
>>31905018Toko belongs to Sui
>>31903787>>31905067
>>31904332This motherfucker said that if he could he would buy a Philips CDI just to play the CDI Zelda games. Number poison, but based
>>31905096selen's outfit is a guaranteed gold. nijibox + fpsbox is a 70k floor.
>>31904990For the ENs, so far Kiara, Mori, and Bae all have Rust streams around JP primetime on the 1st.
>>31903787Kek he’s mad
>>31903787>>31905126
>>31905153meds
>>31905104
>>31903787
>>31904990It's 100% a giant server war against the ADVENT OF LALION. I BELIEVE.
>>31905153>Selen outfit reveal leak
>>31904990>>31905160Pretty sure that's just before Reset Day, so it's the ALL-OUT WAR arc.
>>31903787>>31905188
>>31905153It's gonna have Massive implications for the textile industry.
>>31905216lalaion debut is on the huge server war anon, she's gonna be the lone wolf who kills everyone
>>31904838NijiEN is legit competitor against holoEN now. Crazy to think Gura can lose against Luxiem under the right circumstances now.
>>31905153>PETRA WILL EASILY GET GOLD (bronze)>ROSEMI WILL EASILY GET GOLD (bronze)Do you see the pattern?
>>31905227isn't rust reset 7th of sep globally for pc servers?
>>31905216PekoBotaSuiseiSharky Vs everyone else. I belib.
>>31903787>>31905237
>>31905241forget the textile industryjust imagine selens floor on that day, its boom for the tile and or wood industry
>>31904796>>31904835>>31904859I know the main channel is a debuff but cmon it has fucking 35 holo members and it's being good advertised
>>31904838>Petra (Nochairsanji) - 35,293 (Singing the Chinese National Anthem)
>Petra/Koyori mamas new image almost as much likes as Koyoris birthday image she drew at only 13h old
>>31905268Are you pretending to be retarded or did you run out of meds again?
Hololive needs one more gold to win this month. Can they do it?
>>31905269There's a first time for everything anon.>Not even bronze
>>31903787>>31905292
>>31904660Isn't it interesting how Pomu is the only one who doesn't mention the other members either on the title or the thumnail?Why does she bait people with such "solo" streams?Also another classic nijigraph
>>31905332already won halschizo
It's crazy to me that Noir is still holding all those viewers. He might actually pull off Dwarf Fortress.Also what the fuck just happened to Pomu?
>>31905280I've got no clue but I can only assume that they can adjust it?
>>31905332holo already won though according to here and 5ch
Nice retention until him dying from his 1st run, 2nd run starts and instantly bleeds 500 more viewers
>>31905355proof?
>>31903787>>31905347
>>31904944>Pomutoriit's dead anon
>>31905382>>31903887
>>31905378Makes sense, people have been watching for 3 hours at that point and don't wanna invest in a new run.
>>31905350Raid by Fulgur
>>31905153oh yes, chances are heavy that it contests for gold.
>>31905378I peace'd out, got things that need doing and can't stick around for ANOTHER run.
>>31903787>>31905402
>>31905382>>31903887also pic related
huh?
>>31905378Nowa is honeslty such a treat just for numbers aloneIf anyone said that a holostar would be mogging most of NijiEN in terms of ccv at that start of the year, they would've been laughed out of the thread
>>31905378that was me, way too long.
>>31905467read the thread nigga
>>31905467His first run died, started a second run
is Kiara the only holo girl that throws nijiEN a bone?
please guys no more konkon gold timeloops, holo is winning the month either way so it doesn't matter, just believe in whichever adventure you chose and put it behind you
>>31905378Is he playing in hard mode? If not, mughty kek, I will never give him a single view of mine.
>>31905139That would actually get numbers just for the memes and shitting on it.
It's the fucking wawes.The big jump for Pomu is Fungus raid.
>>31905542act like a nijiget niji numbers
>>31905547once Holo gets another gold, there's no more competition.
>>31905548He is in hard mode, it's even on the title
>>31905542Define throwing a bone. If you mean interacting with, then no. If you mean explicitly trying to collaborate with, then yes.
>>31905542Mori replies to their tweets sometimes but none of them have enough clout for her to try to push for a collabSome of council, like Fauna, does the occasional polite reply
>>31905433>niji raid adds 2k, instantly lose 700 viewers>Tempus raid adds 1800, instantly loses 300 nahone
>>31905548Hard mode.He already complete normal mode in his first FTL stream
>>31905542Kiara is the one leeching Pomu at this point. She's reclining hard along with the rest of Myth.
>>31905548He is. Went down in the second phase of the last boss.
>>31905548He is, he beat normal pretty easily the first time he played.
>>31905548He died to the Rebel ship in hard mode, yeah.Apparently he forgot to add 2 power to hacking which fucked up his strat.
>>31904944>is written in english and japaneseyeah anon pretty sure is a collab with nijiEN(china)
>>31905467>>31905574Man what a really stark difference in raid behavior
>>31903825>biggest number of daily entries everNo, i don't think we are.
I didn't even realize that Bae has a 1-on-1 collab with Vesper this weekman at this rate tempus are going to become nothing but an accessory for some of the girls just like it happens in nijisanji
>>31905139if he did that it would be the first and last homo en stream i ever watched
>>31905594doesn't she have the most interaction with them compared to anyone else?
>>31905672im curious to see if vespers numbers decline after the collab since his numbers started to go down after the 1st collab with the girls
>>31905547no. we can't set a precedent with this. the fubura graph has to go.
>>31905566>>31905673Say what you want about Regis or Zelda, paying several hundred dollars just to play two meme games for a dumb completionist dream is kneel worthy
>>31905682she's trying to leech from nijisanji
>>31905672I think what's lame is unlike with Niji where at least they all interact with each other the guys are going to become accessories for only like 3ish of the ENsThe novelty will wear pretty thin when these dudes existence become an excuse for Mori to talk about Adam Sandler movies
>>31905104I enjoy the art of them fucking
>>31905712correlation doesn't equal causation anon
>>31905761>kneel worthyno since it will bring shit numbers although it is kneel worthy for >>>/mans/ but not here
>>31905627he just got fucked in general because the boarding drone landed in his cockpit and once you lose piloting your dodge goes to zero which is a death sentence when facing the boss
>>31905761I still think he won't be able to because of perms hell
>>31905809dumbass, kneels in this thread have never been just about numbers>>31905830holy shit Ren's numbers
>>31905802might be the case for this one since a number of their audience a homobeggars and unityfags, some of which started to fuck off after the first collab
>>31905615nijiseethe
>>31905830Also known as Luxiem and the rest.
>>31905830fake. no way are vox, mysta, luca, shu and ike below 10k. almost every stream they do is 10k+ and ike had a 58k this month.
>>31905830iluna didn't do as well as they expected
>>31905830How does Mysta have an average of 8k when it seems like he gets 14k peak pretty much every stream
>>31905779If they start to shut down her requests to collab for that reason, good. Everyone will get what they deserve.
>>31905830NijiEN is fucking nothing without luxiem
>>31905848oh shit that's right, getting those perms is probably impossible unless there's a re-release.>>31905868>a vague number of their audience might be a certain way>do nothing to prove this with hard numbersdumbass
>>31905830Ren is getting hard carried by the first weeks of August, next month he'll go down to 3k~2k range
>>31905712femicorns i kneel
>>31905908Peaks don't mean shit for true average, it all comes down to retention.
>>31905857>dumbass, kneels in this thread have never been just about numberslol
>>31905830it's really fucking hilarious how there's not a single Iluna above 5k when they debuted to 70k average barely a month ago
>>31905908fake data. the holo classic.
>>31905872Holocope. Only a matter of time before Pomu surpasses Kiara CCV.
>>31905830SELEN ENNA 4K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>31905830If you're a female chuuba wanting to go to a big corpo why would you ever try to go with Niji
>>31905830Only 200 more for Aia to become a 3 view.
>>31905923>unless there's a re-releasehell will freeze over long before that happens
>>31905830surprised that aia is still floating around the 4view territory
>>31905908Dogshit retention.
>>31905964>if x happens>when x happens>x will happen>once x happens>eventually x will happen>can't wait until x happens
>>31905830>these numbers still have the debut buff in them
>>31905923>do nothing to prove this with hard numbers>disregards the number bleed they got after the female collabs
>>31905986To become an accesory to Luxiem, see Scarlet and AIAIAIA
>>31906005>Kiara reclining hard>Pomu inclining hardYep. Not my fault you can't look at obvious patterns.
>>31905712>gets greats numbers >collabs with a female>numbers declineSasuga femunicorns
>>31905908That's how averages work, I think his median would be higher though
>>31906034....that's so sad
>>31905104toko and blue women...
>>31905830>Finana is not the runt anymoreat least Iluna was good for something
>>31906037save it for when it actually happens, I've been hearing you say this for literally a year now and you're still saying the exact same line
>>31905931>>31906051This could be the case but I just think it’s homobeggers getting what they want and fucking off
>>31905830How the FUCK did Noctyx do so bad females are mogging them?
>>31906033>correlation doesn't equal causationYou could easily explain the decrease in numbers with a myriad of other reasons which all have greater precedence. Now that they're collabing outside of the gen the "debut buff" is finally going away. Noir and Magni have had kind of bad schedules so their averages go down (Noir is on part 3 of fucking FTL and has been doing too many zatsus, for instance). The only thing backing your argument is a boogieman of "the person who watches hours of streams just to own unicorns" which is dumb on so many levels.
>>31906089This and the collabs happened at the start of the end of the honeymoon phase.
>>31905883
>>31906064He had around 9.4k when it was posted on the 21st, don't think we are getting an update until the end of the month.
>>31905908Nijien sucks at retaining viewers due to how mid their streams areThats why as a clipper its a pain in the ass for me to find good clippable moments for them
Lui felt Lamys boobs...
>>31906166Don't people post clippable moments on discord? I know some clippers use that at least.
>>31906190Did she say what number were they?
>>319062142
>>31906134Here's the one up until the 26th
Slow day...
>>31905919NijiEN is still fucking nothing with luxiemFixed
>>31906225Lamy...
>>31906109>correlation doesn't equal causationbut in this case it might though, thats why its interesting to see if it might be the case here
>>31906240That one is averages, was talking about Median peaks, which I'm pretty sure was not posted when that one was.
>Serious prediction on selen's outfit stream45k-55k
>>31905802>correlation doesn't equal causation>implying thats always trueSometimes correlation does equal causation though
>>31906190She just did not felt Lamy's boobs, she even went for her nipples, and even got kisses before ending the streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yVspse7jG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbsHi9I-EVs
>>31906283>Median peaks,utterly useless metric with the niji raid spam.
>>31906109 (You)>>31906033>>31906273>>31906306Here's your argument"beggars watched 42 hours of Noir streams live just to get a collab stream with HoloEN"Here's my argument:"Noir, doing the things that naturally cause recline (constant zatsus, multiple parts of the same game, also a roguelike) has reclined a bit"if you think the former is more plausible, ogey. My argument follows principles that are generally accepted by this thread and by most streamers, yours are fantastical rrats created by this board.
>>31906134>Kiara below EnnaOuch. Maybe she should start leeching her too.
>>31905802depends on the cause since it might be both femicorns and beggars fucking off which is a huge possibility
>>31906300Second this, should fall somewhere in this range. Slight outside chance it hits 60k or Petra was somehow tourists central for Japanese and they don't show up for Selen for whatever reason and she falls a bit below Petra.
>>31905908Because he peaks like 5 minutes in and then bleeds viewers for the rest of the stream.
>>31906343sure, but the entire conversation was about what Mysta Median was which was why I posted it.
>>3190630040k-45kSame as the previous ones
>>31906343The averages are right there if you're looking for them, we're just passing around numbers>>31905830
>>31906361can you actually give evidence for this that wouldn't be more reasonably explained by "he's doing debuff content"?
>>31906324this would be cool if lui didn't have the most horrible voice
>>31906324Jesas. The hag power is too much
>>31906389Really? Imo selen is slightly more popular in EN than petra and rosemi (just my opinion), so I don't think it'll go below 45k
>>31906213Ive stopped using that since most of the things that they recommend dont really get big numbers due to it being mostly in jokes
>>31906351You're just assuming that the audience of>"I just want to see them collab!"viewers don't exist.Here's something: We know that a SIMILAR kind of behavior exists with another company. NijiEN has always had people who will watch for "new events," and leave once the event is over.Why, then, is it preposterous to assume that a similar, albeit smaller, group may exist for Holos? A group that showed up for them as "new events," waited until the "new event" culminated in collabs, and then drifted away over time, as they no longer had anything to anticipate?
>>31906488Selen is more popular with EOPs but it seems like the numbers are being driven by JOP tourists so it's hard to say
>>31906343Has Mysta ever gotten raided? Like even a single time in all his streams?
>>31906166who are the best livers for Solo clips?
>>31905268Luxiem has been able to win against Gura with events or karaoke since at least March, so this isn't exactly news.
>>31906441I hear nips say that a lot but this is the first time I've heard it on here. God the Japanese hate her vocie. I don't get it, its not that bad.
>>31906512Ah fair makes sense, not that Niji fans on discord would be a great representation of clip watchers.
>>31906324Friendly reminder that the holobox is also a holocult. People on the inside of Hololive are basically brainwashed through osmosis by their cooperate culture to love idol shit like singing and dancing, yuribaiting is so normalized girls doing it forget that it's supposed to be faked for the viewers and do it for their own entertainment, some of them even end up convinced their parasocial relationships with chat are healthy and normal.Hololive is a cult. And i love it.
>>31906567what? it's real bad, she sounds like a fried grandma
>>31906405>>31906524
>>31906610
>>31906529Selen is Very popular with chinese tho. Easily the most popular NijiEN girl after Enna in overlapping audience for events with Luxiem. She has a very big ceiling buff from that.
>>31906524No you're not listening. I don't believe the "I will watch literally 42 hours of streams just so they can do a collab, and then I'll fuck off" viewer exists in meaningful quantities. I think what's more likely is that buff and debuffs are good indicators for how viewers react to streams. Here's a question, let's use your viewpoint, explain how Noir retained 4500-4700 in FTL today, or how Magni got 5000 on WWE, or Altare getting 4900 on Minecraft? I can explain it easily through "StarsEN box + buff/debuff".
>>31906512which leads to the question, has any of your nijiclips actually done good numbers?
>>31906593Have a Wamy
>>31906593I wish EN had even a fraction of this mindset
>>31906166Why would you clip them if you think they are mid? As you say they dont get numbers on clips so you dont even have an financial incentive. Just seem completely pointless unless you are a fan
>>31906674Gura does, but understandably not everyone will see a good portion of how hard she's fangirled over HoloJP since that's been locked behind members streams. There's also the whole Shion thing.
>>31906610>grandmah-hot reminds me of the time i fucked someone who was twice my age and i'm already considered an oji by youngins
>>31906524What do you think is a more likely cause for decline?>"I finally got to see ____ interact with Vesper so I'm not watching Vesper anymore"or >Vesper doing his 6th zatsu stream out of his past 9 streamsBetween his zatsus and him being in every other Tempus stream too, I'm getting tired of listening to his voice too.
>>31906550>Solorarely do solo anymore and usually do group ones since they tend to do better numbers than solo and its also impossible to get good solo clippable content but from my opinion and experience its either rosemi or pomu if its pure solo
>>31906701It's funny to see the Debut inflated numbers of Iluna pummel to the ground at breakneck speed.
>>31906674It seems to only be somewhat prevalent amongst the members who actively watch JP
>>31906639 (You)>>31906524Comparing watching 42 hours of streams to niji tourists is laughable. Not even Salome's tourists stuck around as long as the Tempus ones, They stuck around for 12 hours of Bio 7 and then fucked off forever (outside 1 or 2 streams).
>>31906734>There's also the whole Shion thing.Don't remind me
>>31906639>>31906769I am listening, but I think we're having a dispute in terms of scale more than anything.I don't deny what you just said. I'm sure it's there. I imagine the Starsbox is probably about 5,000 people for an individual, and maybe 7/8k for (announced, actually signaled) collabs between them all.But I think that this number is smaller now than it was before. I think that before the collabs, there was, say, a 5,500/6,000 limit for the boys when they did solo streams. And I think the swap from 5.5/6k and the current 5k, before taking buffs/debuffs into account, occurred somewhat rapidly once the collabs happened, then leveled off significantly after.I don't think it's huge. But 500 people? I don't think that's an impossible number of people who could fit the definition of "the collab beggar" type.
>>31906640Not exactly CN friendly time but yeah still a buff
>>31906639NTA but definitely a combination of debuff schedule (including timeslots), longer streams, Council week and EN/JP Rust hype have evened out my live watching. If anything particularly hype happened in a stream out of my strike zone I'd just rely on clip or /mans/ guidance to find out where to scrub to in the VOD
>>31906593Sadly both EN and ID prove that this is false...
damn Nowa LOVES to talk about shit others havent even talked about themselves.
>>31906829When is her stream anyway in JST?
>>31906811Hey, it'll improve as Gura does her reps and has a better Japanese vocab to work with.
>>319068659am
>>31906832I've seen nothing from EN or ID that would make any of that false, honestly.
>>31906843He really is like an open book, it's gonna bite him in the ass someday, but I appreciate the insight into the behind the scene stuff he has already given us.
>>31906769Seriously. I enjoy Vesper but even I'm just leaving zatsus for when I need a podcast to listen to.>>31906812you're an actual simpleton. You think there are 500 people who stuck around for 42 hours of stream and are now gone forever? Just because of a collab they wanted? And the only reason you even think this exists is because of rrats about "beggars" This has to be bait, it's actually so stupid. The 7/8k collab limit is doubly stupid because they repeatedly broke this ceiling before and after the Mori collabs.
>>31906843Sometimes Nowa just needs to shut up
>>31906889Not great, but guess it could be worse.
>>31906591yeah i want to give them exposure to new potential audiences the same way i do with my other channel that focuses on holos>>31906644they are doing mid to ok'ish but could probably do better.
>>31906701>>31906781I like how you ignored that pretty much everyone inclined there. Iluna is going to incline eventually too, their debut month viewers were Luxiem tourists but they'll probably find their own viewerbase given enough time. Holoshitters are scared.
>>31906843Is he squealing again...
>>31906843at least tell us what he said
Pretty great retention for his second run as well so far.
>>31904058Pretty dece. MC and the Valo collab today should keep him above 3k.
>>31906927>And the only reason you even think this exists is because of rratsI think you're unwilling to even accept the possibility that this is an audience that exists, despite the fact that their existence is not exactly a "hidden thing," or something made up by /vt/.You can go on Twitter and see that these kinds of people exist, same for the whole "I DESPERATELY WANT NIJI/HOLO COLLAB" crowd.I think you're being either intentionally obtuse when you act like 500 people is some kind of impossible amount to achieve for that mindset, or you're being so certain of yourself that you refuse to believe even a hint of an opposing theory can't be true.There are absolutely, and absolutely always have been, people who show up to things and get invested because they want a payoff. And when a payoff comes, there are also absolutely, and absolutely have been, people who become disinterested after the payoff comes.
>>31907018>Everyone inclinedGood for them.But are you happy for the livers or you happy for a chance to shit on hololive?The first one makes you nijichad, the second means you're nijikek
>>31907050>starting a 2nd run6 hour stream incoming
>>31907018>I like how you ignored that pretty much everyone inclined thereYou need to buy glasses anon
>>31906713the numbers the get are lower than the numbers i get from my holo focused channel but they do still produce money
>>31907061anon, twitter people don't watch streams. The reason I don't belive you is because every stream you could use to prove your point has a far more reasonable explanation with "oh they're just debuffed". Nobody invests 42 hours like that, sorry. Your theory doesn't even make sense because half of Tempus haven't even changed much in viewership - and look the half that did also happened to stream debuff for the last week (I wonder if that affects viewership numbers?).
>>31907123You already saw how he ended the reply anon, it's just another nijikek.
>>31907212>twitter people don't watch streamsreddit people do and guess where the majority of collab beggars reside
>>31906982Hi nekomikuri.
>>31905986To be fair, this numbers might look bad to us due to numberrot but for a rando 2view or has-beens like Ren, getting close to 1k CCV is a damn good deal. I used to follow a few fleshtubers and even the moderately succesful ones sometimes have a hard time getting to 2k. The fact that shitters like Sana (prior to graduation) or RBC can comfortably get above 3k CCV is more of a testament to the power of the Holobox. There's a reason why so many ecelebs flocked to Ollie. It's because they thought that she was the key to entering Hololive's garden of Eden. So, despite what many indies might say publicly about stuff like TALENT FREEDOM and all that shit, you bet your ass that they'd do a full 180 if ever papa Yagoo ever calls them. But since you only have 5 slots open every year, it's either hoping to win the lottery or going to Niji and getting a x4 multiplier on viewership but ultimately hardcapping yourself for the foreseeable future.
>>31907212Again, you're acting like this is a binary. Like it can ONLY be "They left after the collab," or "they have debuff content." One or the other, to you. But it's not a binary. Both of these things can be factors that play into it.And what do you mean,>"no one invests 42 hours like that"Do you seriously think 42 hours is some kind of significant amount of time? Slice that up a bit and you essentially are saying>"No one would ever spend an hour a day for a month and a half on something that they drop after."That's a behavior that happens all the time. It's the same as someone going to the gym until they hit a certain point on the scale, then they act like they "won" and fall off of their reps. This isn't some crazy thing, 42 hours isn't some massive time investment when you spread it over a month and a half.
>>31907283Oh well like 20 commentors on Reddit are beggars, clearly these all watched 42 hours of Noir and accounted for 500 people leaving. After all Debuff content has never resulted in 500 people not watching stream. Here's another issue with your theory - it leaves practically no room for swings due to debuff. >>31907325yeah but remember, randos also don't have to give up a large part of their post-youtube cut to a corp.>>31907341anon combining them makes the beggar theory even more stupid.
Imas seiyuu shittalking sora behind the back. How many outsiders are seething at holos?
vagueposting needs to be punishable by death
>>31907372Why is 42 hours such a huge sticking point for you, seriously, it's not a lot of time in the grand scheme of things.That's 6% of a month. It is not a lot of time for the average person to dump into a hobby that they end up dropping, or a trend they end up dumping.
>>31907408I second the motion, needs to be publicly stoned
>>31907325rando 2views dont have to give a huge portion of their income o a corpo anon
Sure that guy is gonna post proof next thread.
>>31907018>Everyone inclinedAnon half of them reclined and the ones that're inclining have:>Had outfit reveals>Were part of the giant singing relay that gave them free 20k+ streams>Did the Koshein watch-alongs>Have spammed collabsLike yes anon, you're gonna sit here and say Elira is a 3.6k avg streamer when she had 2 Koshein streams that hit 21k and 36k, and then had the relay that hit 31k.The only one who's shown actual incline out of the entire list is Enna, and that's because she literally streams exactly after Luxiem and does a bunch of gimmick shit like handcams and cooking with multiple people
>>31907393>Imas seiyuu shittalking sora???No she isn't? She's shittalking another im@s seiyuu
>>31907393success breeds jealousy
>>31907467Which guy, The clipper?we already know we have a few clipppers here like petramax
>>31907212NTA, but I've been casually tracking tempus's numbers for a few week. And it does show recline in CCV and vod views each time they interact/Collab with HoloEN.Regis dropped slightly a few days after ame did her solo duet, then vesper and magni dropped significantly after the Mori collab.It's just an observation, that anon may believe the reason for that are x amount of homobeggars and he could be as right as anyone's else.I personally think that parts of their female audience are dropping them instead. those that may not be too appreciative of female collab/interactions.
No pic = rrat. Not even gonna give (you)
>>31907493wait, what and why?
Nowa-oji has a decent interface setupShure SM7BScarlett 2i2
>>31907520Nah the one posting about Sora multiple times.
>>31907481>The only one who's shown actual incline out of the entire list is EnnaSelen...
>>31907527Because she's a jealous ass bitch.L'antica is fucking cursed. First is was that one bitch who got shitcanned for cheating on some dude for an old friend and shitting on his current girlfriend because she thought being an im@s character of a shitty ass side branch made her hot shit, and now this garbage.
>>31907454rando 2views would make more income after taking a cut in one month than they would in a whole year without one.Were you around yesterday? Did you see that German girl? Did you see how she almost started crying when people donated to her? And that was 3view corporate. And it was, in total, during their debut, probably what a Holo gets in their pre-stream donations for a random stream.The money argument ain't gonna cut it for a 2view.
>>31907538what does any of that mean?
why the fuck am I arguing with 'people' that actually believe this dumb beggar rrat? I might actually be brain damaged. This is so obviously bait.
>>31907619anon...
>>31907669wait, wtf
>>31907619It's Audio stuff.https://www.thomann.de/gb/shure_sm_7b_studiomikro.htm?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NCwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1& https://www.thomann.de/gb/focusrite_scarlett_2i2_3rd_gen.htm?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NCwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1
>>31907621>people put up genuine points>you just scream 'NUH UH' and vaguepost when people aren't all agreeing with you and shaking your handdon't be a bitch and prove your point better than they can if you wanna cry.
>>31907619Shure SM7B - MicScarlett 2i2 - Audio interface
>>31907621>cant accept that a portion of tempus audience might be beggars >its gotta bait
>>31907721>>31907729ah, thanks. Don't really mess with that much myself so the terms are unfamilar to me
>>31907521This will be my last post on this dumb fucking argument. Regis has inclined, if anything. Check his gungeon streams for the past week to see how at worst he's been fairly stable (taking into account buff-debuff) and then how he has a couple of streams recently that did super well.
>>31907716every time i refresh my youtube account a different clip with 2.5k-20+k pop up, should do some numbers on this vod
>>31907669150k now
>>31907669Fucking hell, Kobo and her Midas touch
>>31907726>>31907743ogey
>>31907716it did amazingly well and also it's a round based game so that means alot of viewer churn. Not surprising to be honest
>>31907778he might beat his debut day cover with this, that's insane
>>31907755I don't think you ever actually made a single point that couldn't exist ALONGSIDE the points that they were making.Nothing in either argument is exclusive. You could BOTH be right.
>>31907669Kobo's vod.
>>31907493>>31907527>>31907582She did shittalk sora too, it's in her old tweet. Funny thing the tweet is in 2018 and sora is literally who during that time.
>>31907716viewer churn due to rounds ending but impressive nonetheless
>>31907621Well this is anonymous thread so all serious "arguing" are stupid
>>31907809I mean, heartache is kinda mid.
>>31907481Highlighted the inclines from January to present day for you since you're retarded.
>>31907621you can start by making an argument that doesn't entirely based on your personal assumptions anon.unfortunately something a lot of newer holofriends suffer itt due to level of echochamber this thread allows most of the times.
>>31907837Fucking Holo blue women and their magic touch
>>31907837This is hard proof that the whole "collabing with male will kill your number" myth is bullshit.
my recomendations literally look like this now what the fuck are you doing Bae?
>>31906788>Gura and Ina watch lots of jp holos content>both are by far the best ones in ENmaybe they should hire people that watch jp more than en or id
>>31907842proof next thread right?
>>31907842are you sure it's the right Sora? it's not exactly an uncommon name you know
>>31907842Im not familiar with this drama. Is it nothingburger or is there actual damage done?
>>31907870Forgot to highlight a few
>>31907895Just changes it back to>This applies to ENthing as always.ID is meant to be onaholes. That's always been their point. Of course no one will give a shit.
>>31907900destroying her average and that's a good thing
>>31907900What, you don't like warplanes? Are you gay?
>>31907842Is this legit? Can you post a screenshot and summary for the N99's here. I'm actually curious now, especially since it's Sora of all people.
>>31906240Average is a garbage stat. Stop pushing it. Even with issues with raids stuff like that, median peak is still a million times better.
>>31907964those are all premieres, they won't do shit to the average
>>31907963this sounds like massive cope to avoid admitting that your preconceptions are wrong
>>31907997they are? oh well, its shit content anyway
>>31907895Too many variables to say true or false
>>31907900Cute rat!
>>31907870>>31907941>inclinelooks like return to mean to me since they had a bigger incline in may and june and reclined in july
>>31907963I guess we'll see in in the coming days whether Bae and Kronii number would show a recline, but even Mori guerilla managed to get 9k
>>31908033nijiseethe
>>31908029Anon, are you new to Hololive, or did you miss the last two entire years of ID and Homo interactions which ended up doing exactly no harm to any of them?
>>31907995nijiseethe
>>31907910
>>31908056nijimeds
>>31907870>>31907941>Incline>When they got bigger numbers in May
>>31908038Point me to one example that says otherwiseand before you say Ollie, her recline started way before the Connor thing happened
>>31907941nta, but are you going to skip the numbers in the middle where it was higher prior and declined after to some of them?
>>31908054Imo, I dont think bae will, but kronies got some unicorns so she will
So Altare will be a 5k chuuba now huh, that's how the collabs work right?
>>31908073so what you're saying is that there was never any evidence to support the "collabing with males will kill your numbers" theory that gets thrown around like gospel around these parts and it's all just cope and things certain parties want desperately to be true?
>>31907995>Even with issues with raids stuff like that, median peak is still a million times better.>Niji dog ass shit retention even without raids
>>31908154You're desperately throwing words into my mouth today, huh.
>>31908145No, that's Niji talk. They spam collabs on every channel possible then claim they're inclining when 6 people are involved in 1 stream every other stream
>>31908145Kek no. Tourists are tourist for a reason
>>31907963But does it? Entire modern western leftism is based around making males obedient cucks. Would EN fans really give a shit?
>>31908073And so did HoloJP>Sora, Suisei, RBC, AZKi, FBK, Matsuri, Aki, Choco, Shuba, TowaNot a single one of them reclined after collabing with males
>>31908223Why are you shoving your retarded politics shit at my face
>>31908139Meh, kronies are all talk and no biteI doubt she has that many gachis anyway
>>31908129Just normal viewer variation retard. The only ones who are stagnant are Finana, Yugo and Sonny. None are reclining.
>>31908054Mori and bae already lost most of their core viewers, the one that remains probably wouldn't mind homo Collabs since it's nothing new for them.also mori's 9k was on Rust, which is tourists heavy and probably is more effected by overlaps and etc than anything.
>>31908235wait i thought the original argument was that the males were the one getting lower numbers and not females?
>>31908078Fuck off. Average is dumb no matter what side you are on. IRyS gets hurt a ton by this. Streaming something to 8-10k viewers and then reads superchats after gameplay to 3-4k viewers. That drop in viewership is not a statement as to her popularity at all but her average goes down. The median stat just takes them at their max potential viewership and doing a separate superchat stream which only gets 3k viewers generally doesn't affect the median too much. It's superior in everyway.People just started having hissy fits because of raids so somebody thought it was a good idea to switch to average totally forgetting all the reasons we stopped measuring average to begin with.
>>31908235I do want to point out that the Shuba thing always ends up with some retarded Holo anti running into Global and shitting it up while screaming>"IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT THAT SHUBA STOPPED TALKING TO GUYS, I HATE HOLOLIVE FANS, EVER SINCE SHE GOT SUCCESSFUL SHE NEVER TALKS TO (the cool dude whose name I forget) ANYMORE"
>>31908154It's cope. Just wait for what kind of excuse they will try to make when the DBD Collab do well just like Mori/Vesper and Kobo/Regis did too
>>31908235>Sora, RBC, AZK, Matsuri, Aki, ChocoReminder that literally any time these ones get 5 view playing rust it's a huge news event cause it's so rare
>>31906324Is this kayfabe or did Lui and Lamy legit have sex last night
>>31908145I mean, he got ~6k subs in the span of 4 hoursThat's something at least
>>31908085http://onecall2ch.com/archives/10124185.htmlSeems she shit talked a lot of other VA's and Sora was one of them.
>>31908284so the incline is also a viewer variation then?
>>31908310>>31906593
>>31908085ah, a rubbing commentyou should take these comments as seriously as people who just call everything leeching
>>31908284> numbers been going down for the past few months> "It-It's just a variation! Not reclining!"Weird cope, anon
>>31908294>the original argument was that the males were the one getting lower numbers and not females?It literally was.I don't fucking get how these guys decided to go from>The guys get less numbers after interacting with girlsto>SEE, I TOLD YOU, THE GIRLS GET BIG NUMBERS AFTER THEY COLLAB WITH GUYS!!Literal retardation.
>>31908284>Just normal viewer variation retardSo your "incline" is also a viewer varitaion faggot?
>>31908302>switch to averagebut median stuff is still posted as well
>>31907813the problem is that we can't both be right. Their argument is that a significant part of the viewers are beggars, which just doesn't make sense if you understand how buff and debuffs work. Here's what we know about buffs; it literally turned Anya from a near 3 view into 6k CCV with rust, even Ragus went from getting 2k at most to nearly 5k on minecraft. Here's what we know about this dumb theory; well there are a couple of reddit comments. If you looked at the Tempus graphs as if they were any other vtuber, this explanation would not exist and we would be saying "yeah of course it's debuff".
>>31908284>Nina, Uki, Mysta and Vox>just viewer variation
>>31908223>>>/pol/ is that way SocratesLeave us with our anime streamers be
Pekora has been dominating the Vtubing world since April 2020 all potential contenders have ultimately failed.Marine, Korone, Gura, Kuzuha, Fubuki, Aqua ,Salome none of them could keep up for more than a month.Who is next?
>>31908413>significantLess than 10% of an audience is not a "significant" amount.
>>31908284>Mental gymnastics
>>31908433Gura kept up for three months though
>>31908389Retard, my original post is this >>31907895At least follow the chain of replies first dumbass
>31908433Weak bait
>>31908404I'm saying that average shouldn't be posted at all because it gives an extremely innaccurate measure of the actual viewership these chuubas get.
>>31908450Losing 500 viewers when your streams are now at 3600 peak is a lot. The significance of 10% depends entirely on the numbers at play.
>>31908507How is it bait though? None of them dethroned numbers rabbit in the long run
>>31906701Did Luca do buff content in July or why is his ccv in that month inflated?
>>31908310From the way the 3D models moved and the sounds they made both for real and faking it for the audience, they clearly kissed several times.
These "collab debate" are stupid. So what if their numbers incline, recline, or stay the same? If the livers enjoy the collab then good for them
>>31908303I also forgot his real name, to me he'll always be ojiojiHoly shit his name is so unremarkable, Keisuke Maimoto
holy shit how is Noir at nearly 5 hours and still got 3.8k viewers
>>31907941>>31907870>>31908129Anon is really highlighting in incline from CCVID laden January?
>>31908129He's right that most of those are just variations due to buff/debuff content and events.Like May was off-collab month for most of NijiEN so a lot of them got their best numbers then, but you're not going to say they declined overall compared to where they were at the start of the year.The fluctuations for a couple hundred can't be compared to the baseline being raised by 1000.
>8 minute anniversary songsWhy did they do it bros?
>>31908567>the liversjust kys
>>31908308They all have their own demon, but you can't really blame that on their interaction with males
do nijiniggers really?
>>31908586Believe it or not it's a very engaging stream, I don't think another holomem could make it work.
>>31908619Will do
>>31908085>tada no debuKEK
>>31908645I'm not shocked it's engaging, it's just that with the viewer churn we expect from Tempus that's still impressive retention. His graph is so smooth.
>>31908612They thought it would be cool.
>>31908516AgreedYou brought up IRyS. Average says IRyS is a 6k chuuba yet every stream she has done this month has been well above 6k. She just reads superchats for hours after gameplay.
>>31908625kek, if that's real, that's the same anon that shits this thread up until the "no chair" meme dropped
>>31908625Meh probably same one from nijinigs discord
>>31908625based
>>31908625>the turnout was so large that people had to sit on the floor to watch the performanceThat's certainly ONE WAY to describe that
>>31908625schizo shit straight from this thread
>>31908561
>>31908625>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
>>31908287Mori's Rust was a guerilla put up less than an hour before in the middle of the night and there was also Noel streaming Rust at the same time to take the JP viewers.
>>31908733Is it that schizo shit comes from this thread, and flows to the rest of the world, or is it that schizo shit comes from the rest of the world, and flows into this thread?
>>31908625why is so hard to find a nijinigger that is not assblasted about Hololive?
Nowa's 3rd run, let's go
>>31908691It kinda was, not that it gives numbers mind you.
>>31908625so that's the nijiintern huh?
>>31908625>>31908696>>31908709>>31908716>>31908720>>31908733nijibronies can't even fill up 41%.
Sc reading after streams have better numbers than a separate sc stream so i don't see any problem with average.
>>31908736>stream until 650k jesus>>31908780that rrat was born in this thread, there was a dedicated millie/ennaposter who kept posting about that event until it actually happened
>>31908736>Micra killing Ender Dragon>5k>Another micra, this time building some shit>9kI don't understand Luca's number
>>31908780>>31908733it's from their discord that they coordinate attacks to "pwn" people, namely holofags
>>31908625yep, this guy is definitely here
>>31908736I see, well, it certainly gave him a boost from continuing his 5k average and he did another "endurance" stream this month too, I wonder if he can keep doing one of those every month.
>>31908600>due to buff/debuff content and events.So we ignore those numbers? Are we being selective of what's being done on each month?>Like May was off-collab monthHow about the others which spanned across multiple months? Do we also put it as "just variations"?
>>31908516I don't see why both can't be posted. People who are interested in numbers understand the context for why people who read SCs for hours have lower averages and the ones who use it to shitpost were never interested in numbers anyways.True average is the only stat that reflects viewer retention to some extent and doesn't let Luxiem and Kobo get away with high medians off of first hour peaks and 3 hours of bleeding. Also rewards Moona and Kaela for their long 8 hour minecraft streams by reducing the impact of their short morning streams to 1k viewers.
>>31908588>NijiEN>Affected by ccvid
>>31908780the schizo shit probably comes straight from discord where they run their anti holo campaign from
nahone
>>31908830I learned that if a nijiEN's number suddenly jumps, they have people in their voice chat
>>31908625that ck illust guy sounds like one of the resident schizos
>>31908791Outside of fujos, the majority of NijiEn shitposters are former hololive viewers and contrarians with a small dog complex.
>>31908850https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/text/juvR8Wo9m3w/yep
12 hour FTL stream let's go
Nijibronies, our front row seats...
>>31908625Holy shit, that no chair propaganda flipThat dude would do great as slimy politician
>>31908588You could check from december or november if you want. Like Petra and Rosemi just had 40k for their new outfits do you really think that was possible 6+ months ago? This thread is mocking Enna when she has a 3k stream now, back in november 3k would be maybe the biggest stream of the month for Enna. This thread is mocking Pomu when she only had 7k on a karaoke this month. Last year she never even got 4k on her karaokes. There is no denying that the NijiEN girls have inclined this year. This isnt me saying that the NijiEN girls are bigger than HoloEN and will mogg Pekora in 5 weeks or whatever words faggots will try to put in my mouth
>>31908625give linknow
>>31908827The problem is that if that was gameplay instead of SC reading those viewers wouldn't leave. It's not a good measure of their actual popularity or viewership.
>>31908830Split POV collab vs solo stream with no overlapLuca usually gets pretty fucked whenever there's another Luxiem POV in these big collabs, but not as badly as Vox.Shu is the Luxiem split POV collab king in any timeslot tho.
>>31908911>first post of his video is in /vsj+/confirmed most of the "nijifags" here are vshojo shitters then
>>31907941>>31908129This comparison is pointless.It does not take into consideration certain months potentially being buffed due to special events or specific collabs: e.g., Petra and Rosemi had over 10 times as many viewers as on a normal stream during their recent outfit reveal. It also ignores any potential seasonality to viewership numbers, or growth of the entire industry, that would impact vtubers in general.
>>31908894The good ol "check who's the guest then dip if it's someone uninteresting
>>31908899so why they dont support id/homos if they have want to have a small dog complex?
>>31908625kek, the bloke is clearly a troll, you can follow that name to https://www.instagram.com/ck_illust/from there tohttps://www.instagram.com/connor_khuu/then to his twitter tohttps://twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Aconnor_khuu)&src=typed_query&f=liveClearly someone picking stuff from here and taking it there, answering to >>31908780 connundrum.Bloke can draw too, he should stop incinerating his name for the lulz.
>>31908895Both of them are open VC though
>>31909029Because they are hololive or hololive adjacent anon.
>>31908549I won't contest the statement that Pekora has been dominating the scene since she clearly is CCV wise, but>Marine, Korone, Gura, Kuzuha, Fubuki, Aqua ,Salome none of them could keep up for more than a month.sounds like what a 2020 newfag would say.Oyabun was the prominent force in 2017, and after that Mito took the reign in 2018 with arguably Aqua taking up that spot in 2019 being the most superchatted Vtuber while also sporting consistently high CCV for that time.That statement just reeked of an attempt to stir some shit and make the thread unusable.
>>31909059does one of them have more people than the other/
>>31908894IT'S FUCKING LUCA
>>31908965I am not even engaging in the argument, just highlighting that the worst month of all of those to pick is the buggiest month in Youtube history with regards to CCV.
>>31908797Only loses about 150 with FTL
>>31909080then why not some random indie or a smaller en corpo?
>>31909057very charitable of you to not just call him a schizobecause that's what he is, trolling is supposed to be funny
>>31909057I'm getting mixed signal here, does this guy hate holo or no?
>>31908930It's genuinely impressive. Makes me wanna think of other things like that for shitposts here.
>>31908869>So we ignore those numbers?No, it's called not jumping at INCLINE and DECLINE every month off of the diff of a few hundred.Kronii's numbers are worse than her numbers last month because of her dogshit content but no one thinks she declined. No one thinks Bae inclined this month either, her content was just better so her numbers improved.True decline is something like Haachama where it takes her every gimmick in the book nowadays to get past 10k and it's been consistently that for months now.
>>31909130Because those can't realistically compete against the evil hololive agency and their brainwashed minions.
How do we save HoloEN?
>>31909029The complex is about how their favorite is smaller than the bigger one. Not a favoritism towards smaller groups of vtubers.Small dogs bark a lot despite getting bodied in fights because they're insecure.
>>31909098That I don't know and I can't be arsed to check the VOD
>>31909178Hey man
>>31909188>>31909173nahone, thanks anons
>>31908625>>31909057Now why would a talented fag like this squander his gift being a lowly internet troll?I would be drawing the girls and posting whenever possible to try to get noticed and maybe some commissions.Anons, take the KayYu / Dudul pill: if you are talented in ANYTHING, don't waste your time pretending to be a retard in the internet
>>31909195I'm just gonna assume the higher CCV one does. it would make the most sense
>>31909146He doesn't care.He's doing it for the (You).
>>31909146He's clearly just a schizo.
>>31909235This is why you need to be 18+ to post here, /vt/ is too damaging for developing brain
Incline or decline is actually qualitative measure.Sure ccv is one indicator, but should not represent all. Especially ccvs in short range of time
So, does hololive have what it takes to get one more gold and win the month?
>>31909229uhhh... those are.... uhh
so, did any of the nijis that participated on the karaoke relay recieved a buff?
>>31909146he's very clearly a holofag checking his twitteri know that was you posting your own comments here, it was good bait but doing that kind of ruined it
>>31909343rorurumao
>>31909229>that shit>talentedPreschool level drawings
>>31909322pomu's current stream has a 6k+ peak, so it definitely did something.
>>31909352Nah, I'm SEAfag
>>31909343They did this last year already and nothing happened (altho the numbers are higher this year).One off events don't lead to incline.
>>31909178Graduate Mori and Bae
>>31909393Taught Fungus how to raid?
>>31909229that is not the same guy I'm pretty sure
>>31908965explain>>31908129
>>31909057>>31909229TOP KEK, for some reason I'm starting to agree with that anon that says "range banning SEA would improve this thread and board 500%">pic relatedAlso, dude is a legit schizo and one with zero concept of OpSec
>>31909406he's viet looking at his follows
If Salome got 68k peak with the relay and the previous nijis were getting around 30k tourists watching that means that without the realy buff, a second karaoke stream from her it would have had only 38k?
Today's podium contestants?
>>31909486time to hunt the schizo down
>>31909455>Jan 2022 -> Aug 2022: 1.3k increase>Jun 2022 -> Aug 2022: 200 decreaseYeah they definitely declined.
>>31909057should never underestimate how dumb one can be
>>31909557>completely ignores their bigger numbers in may and june
>>31909551Wut? Dude is harmless and clearly has nothing in his life to be taken away.
doxxing /#/ schizos is based and good actually
>>31909501...fuckWhy is it always a fucking viet, did they got a collective schizophrenia from agent orange or something?
>>31908139>kronies got some unicorns so she willKekKronies already skip half her streams these days because they're boring games and come back when she plays buff shit.The unicorns will skip the collab and come back the next day.
Just realized his graph is kinda going around the Rocket, also he's gaining back the viewers he lost when he started his 3rd run.
>>31909608people who are annoying to me, personally, shouldn't be suffered to exist
>>31909557>Jun 2022 -> Aug 2022: 200 decreaseSo they hit their peak at june and is now starting to decline?
>>31908625This faggot is a schizo from /here/, or a falseflag. It sounds too ridiculous to be legit.
>>31909642>I'm playing until I get a win, you knowThis is going to be a fucking day
>>31909608nah schizos who cant do opsec needs to be punished
>>31909643this but unironically and in english
>>31909557You are wasting your time on a timeloop. The situation of NijiEN can be summarized in three sentences, with regards to their CCV1) The girls are better off than they were before Luxiem2) The boys were at their peak in May and are reclining ever since3) Each new generation degraded after Luxiem the branch numbers These are there inconsequential statements that can easily be verified looking at the numbers.
>>31909602>Jun 2022 -> Aug 2022: 200 decreaseRetard can't read. May and June 2022 were off-collab spam months and everyone with a brain knew they wouldn't retain those numbers. >>31909644A 200 drop in average jfc. How will they recover? It's not like their content already fluctuates by hundreds depending on what games they're streaming mostly that month.
>>31909701I think "Suffered to exist" is proper English, if he means>it eases the schizo's suffering if you kill them
why is pekora such an attraction?99K for a quiz where the other members had 70K at most? where did the other 30K come from?
>>31909644Alban, Yugo, Shu, Ike, Vox and Mysterio all hit their peaks in May, the one that has suffered the most is Mysta going from 11.9k average in may to 7.9k
>Schizophrenia heat map
>>31909756cope
>>31909178It's simple, we nuke Beijing
>>31909057anon https://www.reddit.com/user/kizsledge/
>>31908625>>31909057>Niji EN is currently the biggest EN vtuber group in Asia>is a Vietnamese Holo EN fanThe irony here is actually hilarious, I hope many more schizos from /here/ get exposed
>>31909756That's why contexts are important. Numbers are objective, interpretation of numbers are subjective
>>31909712I know, it's just annoying when people pretend that vtubers are constantly inclining and declining every month when 95% of vtubers are stagnant for months until something special happens.I guess the same thing happens too whenever a Holo-version of this gets posted but it gets shut down quick because enough people here are aware enough about their content to provide context behind the number fluctuations.
>>31909760It's archiac english, technically it's correct but nobody uses it in that way these days anymore
>>31909857So falseflagger seakek?
Where's that anon who does the line graphs when you need them
>>31909912yeah and this looks like his main account>>31909854
>>31909905Is archaic english the chunnibyou speak of burger land?
>>31906701Why use average instead of median?
>>31909971Verily so.
>>31909939kidnapped by ISIS and sold into sex slavery.
>>31909971pretty much
>>31909854>>31909912>>31909963hey before you guys go on a witchhunt, can you confirm that that CK_Illust is the same guy who owns the youtube channel? because ck_illust is not exactly an uncommon name
>>31909984Medians are fucked because of Raids, then again Averages are fucked because of SC so it's a bit of a conundrum.
>>31909557>2) The boys were at their peak in May and are reclining ever sinceVox peaked in March and there's an insignificant difference between his May and August peak.Luca, Fulgur and Uki got their all time peak in July. It's just viewer variation. Keep coping holokek.
>>31909984because it exposes nijis even furtherat least they have the they are not reclining that bad cope here
>>31910052>>31909912 (me)I won't
>>31910078Meant to quote:>>31909712
>>31910052I mean the only other candidate is https://twitter.com/ck_illustration and theres not much in there
>>31909984>>31910056Why not both? It opens up possibilities like what if average is higher than median or vice versa
>>31910078thiseven iluna is just viewer variation
>>31910122https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhIiIIa43qVdHLl0o_QJKQthere's also this guy that pops up when you search for that name on youtube.Seriously though if you end up harrassing some random holoartist because this throwaway account happens to have the same name I'm going to be very cross
>>31910042I wasn't aware that he was an androgynous jew, hope he's doing them well then, allahu akbar
>>31909804Mysta's drop is exaggerated by how his content changed since May.The bulk of his content wasn't long so his short off-collab streams meant a lot. He had 4 off-collab streams with crazy numbers and 3 horror game streams.For his content this month, he did 2 SC readings and a watchalong and he did a lot more long streams this month, which is devastating for his average because his retention is ass. Those 10k peak Genshin streams end up being 6k avg streams for 6 hrs.
>>31910078>k-keep coping>proceeds to copepfft
This thread is really going to debate for a week only to realize at the end of it, the exact reason why statisticians get both the Average AND Median when measuring these things, huh.
>>31910078>It's just viewer variation.This should be added to the nijicope list
>>31910056Not for an individual stream. I see no excuse to use the average of all streams in a month rather than the median of all streams in a month, since the former can very easily be skewed by one or two special event streams or collabs, and doesn't at all represent the popularity of an individual vtuber.
>>31910078Anon yore just cherrypicking to prove your questionable point
>>31910179https://twitter.com/ck_illustthis one maybe?
>>31910231>there was no incline since Jan/Feb, I swear, May being a little higher for some streamers invalidates the Jan/Feb incline
>>31910300that guy hasn't posted for 2 years, what are you smoking
>>3191016670k to 1-3k is just viewer variation
>>31910301>ccvid didnt happen even though selen tweeted about it
>>31910264neither do medians if you have someone who regularly collects raids and funnels
>>31910250Kek this is all because the graph anons don't put peak median, peak average and true average in the same graph for some reason when it should be easy.
NOWA PLEASE CEASE
>>31910179Guy is definitely here, but doesn't seem like he likes Niji much-
>>31910363I just hope that the anon who was graphing this is serving the ISIS in bed well
>>31910052not hunting any witches m8 just having a bit of a chuckle at a containment breaker who didn't do his opsec reps, the odds that both people with the same username that post exactly like /#/ schizos are actually different is essentially zero, nobody ruin his life please but if it spooks him into stopping falseflagging then it's for the best for everyone
>>31910264Even then the Averages can help see if a chuuba has the ability to retain his viewers and not just bleed them into irrelevancy.
>>31910349The boys didn't get CCVid + it was already gone by February.
>>31910106 (me)I mean i won't witch hunt anybody
>>31910383Fookin hell he recovered some of his numbers, ON A 4TH FTL RUN
>>31910462>How did he do it?
>>31910391even niji fans must think that, that mf face screams arrogance
>numbers thread>talking about numberswtf
>>31910421>nobody ruin his life pleasetoo late since he used a personal email that ties to his real social media in his reddit account
I have to say, I wasn't expecting 1/2 of Tempus to be roguelike/lite streamers.
>>31910535Most likely just a kid who's in for the "lulz" who has no direction in life
>>31910543Guess that's what happens when you hire two people that are big NL fans.
>>31910421there's literally an example here, 2 people with the exact same usernamehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhIiIIa43qVdHLl0o_QJKQhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxQ9LZkOobYcT113GASfTg
>>31909800>where did the other 30K come from?To understand today numbers you need to be familiar with this one term>funnelHere are the top Holo streams for the 12 hours that preceded Pekora's stream.For the whole duration of the 12 hours there was at least one major Holo channel holding at least 20k, plus various additional channels holding over 10k or around and, here is the important part>HANDING THE AUDIENCE DOWN THE LINE IN AN UNBROKEN CHAINWhenever that happens the stream at the bottom of the chain greatly outperforms. You can also see that in AZKi's live and on Aki's live, same dynamics in play>gather the audience and keep it interested until the grand finale
>>31910594hope he has no plans in the future for any international air travel then since he might hit a bit of a snagserves the fucker right for shit talking sora
>>31910497That's what I want to ask as well, it's already 5+ hours FOR A FTL STREAM, yet he still maintains his numbers
>>31910664>Chill streamer>keeps his numbersThis happens literally every time and people always wonder how the fuck it happens
Post the schedules
Whole lot of people in this thread who should probably go take a peek at what global rule 4 says
>>31910658In short>the passed Pekora the spirit bomb
>>31910746kys
>>31910750i mean the retard doxxed himself with that stunt and im getting sick of the schizos here
>>31910766
>>31910664he's going to keep his numbers until a Holo stream startsThere's nothing else to watch rn
>>31910711I've been on the stream for the whole time, I wouldn't really say that it's a "chill stream", he has been really involved with the chat for a portion of the stream, there was tension on a lot of points on the stream
>>31910664>going until he winsRIP Altare he might actually 3view Zelda
the main Sony vtubers project is starting this september
>>31910886will this one be 2view like all the others?
>>31910886which one? theres like 3 or 4 of them iirc
>>31910886I bet they'll hit lower numbers than Production Kawaii
>>31910750ooh look at connor shaking in his boos there
>>31910886>more sony chuubasbut why
>>31910911the 50 vtuber one that was announced last year
>>31910936>Riku you think thats accelerate?>We'll show you accelerate
>>31910886I genuinely don't understand their strategy at allWhy are they launching so many different brands and not spending anything on marketing any of them
>>31910936because money
>>31910886>the main Sony vtubers project ikek, Sony Vee wasn't it?
>>31910959they already hit hit the quota for that if you combine all their streamers, unless youre talking about another 50
>>31910977>I genuinely don't understand their strategy at allACCELERATE! (BUT MORE)
>>31910936Numberfags arguing too much over which successful corpo is more successful.Need an influx of 2views to cure numberrot.
please uncle nowa, I need to sleep
>>31910987yeah, verse was supposed to be a multimedia project but they abandoned it once they couldnt get numbers in the first month
>>31911072poor eigo sheep
Regis Zelda canceled for tonight, Nowa has the runway until 6 pm pst
welp jannies are on the warpath, no new thread for a little while longer
>>31911053
>>31911110>israelnahone
>>31910886most of 'vee' and 'verse' models are super good
>>31911113what was posted this time?
>>31911131
>>31911172I like that steampunk fubuki girl that debuted a few days ago.
>>31911072uno will be gen 7's breakout loli character please yagoo
What happened to this collab? my tempus boys now getting 160k+ VOD
>>31911186
>>31911220indo buff
>>31911220Blue woman buff
>>31911202save sheep onegai
>>31911220This was a giga-buffed collab. They've been tweeting at each other for a while which built a lot of excitement.
>>31911220Blue power
>>31911113>alleged warpath>the dupe thread is still upI don't get it
>>31911240
>>31911220blue woman buff
>>31911220Indog branch saviorfagging starsEN kek
>>31911220Blue cunny magic voodoo touch, with the help of Rios and Astel joining along in the stream
>>31911253Sorry, the saviorfags got hit with P.K. last night, we're fresh out for a bit
>>31910882Blue boy cancelled his streamhttps://twitter.com/regisaltare/status/1564018974819598345
>>31911346>alban in the repliesevery time
>Blue cunny makes EN huge>Blue cunny makes ID hugeI think I know what's coming in JP7
>>31911220kusogaki little sister larp buff
>>31911313
>>31911220Blue Woman.
>>31911372Red Hag?
>>31911365
>>31911365What did you expect from a holofag?
>>31904562>Vox somehow coombaiting on runescapehow is that even possible?
>>31911398
nowa oji 4k at nearly 6 hours in. I just want to sleb...
>>31911307if they don't nuke the dupes right after they get made they last until they fall off page 10 which always takes a few cycles when the bumpschizo is around
>>31911477He came back to 4k this fucking oji-san
>>31911411AKA-CUNNYAO-CUNNYMIDORI-CUNNYSHIROU-CUNNYKURO-CUNNYTOGETHER WE ARE!SUPER SENToT!
Reminder that Pekora is NOT sexy.
>>31911475
>>31911346>sickmight be unrelated but might be that guy who was threatening them if they collabed with the girls any furtheri remember the same thing happening in starsjp
>>31911509The funniest part is that this is somehow doing better than the second stream.
>>31911467You never let your guy idle mine while jacking it to a doujin?
>>31911220>What happened to this collab?kino
For a change of pace, Mio-mama AsaMio has been onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPi7ITvOcc
>>31911535He's literally been coughing and dying in half of his streams, anon, this isn't something to rrat about because the proof is literally on-screen all the time
>>31911523OGay
>>31911365some anon said that he's a mod in some starsjp chat and does crowd control sometimes
>>31911574EDF hag my beloved
>>31911365Dude is a holofag through and through
>>31911548That brat screaming all through out the collab, Rios instantly laughing when she spergs out, suddenly inviting Astel since Rios saw he was free, there was a lot on that stream
>>31911509second shift for earlier viewers, first shift for east coasters who are finishing dinner and entering prime time continuous shift for Nowa gachis who are now accepting their listener-san sleep/bodily function begging fate
>>31911577yeah he sounded really rough in the splatoon stream yesterday. Honestly his stream schedule is so packed (and Zelda is so bad) that missing a stream is no big deal.
>>31911523Pekora is 30% sexy,
>>31911365Feel bad for Albanian. Dudes clearly a Hololive fan. He could be flirting with hotties like Bae or Kronii but instead he has to settle for disgusting bony brown smelly nudes from Millie.
>>31911653Nowa Oji is going to be EN Kaela, huh
>>31911591
>>31911220trending in indonesia
>>31911703>He could be flirting with hottiesThe fact that he would think this is possible at all is why he didn't get in.
>>31911523https://files.catbox.moe/b8mgk5.mp3
>>31911708
>>31911733sasuga loathsome dung eater
>>31911733>get fans>but they're IndonesianIs it worth it?
>>31911733Holy Kobo buff is real.
>>31911755dung muncher tsuyoii
>>31911477When you complained about 1 hour limit and it's finally lifted, you get what you ask
>>31911766isnt he the one with the flip oil baronness?
>>31911752
>>31911703All of the "holofags" in nijisanji made their choice. I hope they enjoy the constant cum jokes.
>>31911792That's all of them, I'm fairly sure that woman is infamously a Holostars DD oil baroness
>>31911705Minecraft red stone autism with Nowa oji is going to be great, I just know it.
>>31911817I mean, the pre-Lux girls didn't know any better. Probably.
>>31911733Sasuga leader instead of squander the trending with a giga-debuff like zelda let the collab VOD do its work (but really with how rough he had those past days a full VA game like TP isn't the best)
>>31911807
>>31910886i hope they fail again
>>31911792He has the general stars oil bareness and an oil baron.
>>31911831I hope he actually becomes addicted. His approach to Dwarf Fortress makes it seem likely, but we'll see if it clicks for him.
>>31911857lazulight and obsydia renewed their contracts. we'll see what happens with elthyria.
>>31911865
>>31911766For Stars? Worth it all day, they need as much fans as they can.
>>31911857Pomu at least should have been familiar enough with the company to know what she was getting into
>>31911916
>>31911911i thought the ens got the new standard 2 year contract? so theres a huge possibility that rissoto might bail after a year?
>nowa 6 hour FTL streamthere will never be a female holoEN like this will there
>>31911946They did literally sell it as>Don't worry, guys, this time we're going an idol route! Look, the girls are, well, they're all GIRLS, and it's IDOL THEMING, and they have a SONG, TOO, we're legit, I promise!
>>31911965
>>31911733Gave him a nice little sub bufff, he caught up to Magni.
>>31911766It has spawned a plethora of clips and for Regis that's a big boon. He doesn't get many(sometimes none) clips. Anything he can get is good at this point.
Today's gold candidates?
>>31912017
>>31912068salome or fuwa. holo doesn't have anything big lined up.
Do the NijiEN girls pining after StarsEN have to do with them being at least average to hot in comparison to sea uggos that are NijiEN males?
>>31911993You have to trust the plan, trust EN3!
>>31912068summer festival pekora pov
>Nowa oji drops an f-bomb>jumps to 4.1k nahone
>>31911993I like to think he's subconciously influencing the EN girls who have been observing him through his streaming ethics and will little by little change their habits
>>31911997There have been individual waves like that in JP tooThe 'problem' (if you see it that way) in EN is they're trying to keep up a "big happy family" atmosphere where all the waves hang out together and mix up their content, while management welds down the accelerator and floods it with people who don't fit their existing culture
>>31912070
>>31912156
>>31912110Same for the NijiEN males honestly. There's A LOT of holofags in NijiEN most notable being Alban (Chumbud) and Vox (Deadbeat)
>>31912144I'm looking forward to the house of cards toppling. We have to be just a few waves away from it by now.
>>31912042Axel would get a huge boost if he just embraced his inner furry instead of rejecting it
>>31912215
>>31912225if Iluna is any indication, the next wave might do it.
>>31912246He's not a furry tho?
With all this talk about whether or not Mysta reclined or if it is just "normal viewer variation", here is his>30 days median of peak CCV + true average CCVchartLong story short>both his average and his median reclined to March levelsLong story long>his numbers from March are likely his numbers, his Spring numbers were inflated by gimmicks In this chart it is possible to see one more thing tho>his average is suffering even when his median is staying stablea sign of what can be seen in his daily charts: his audience shows up, checks what he's streaming and bolts if it doesn't interest them.
Imagine an alternate world where Cover opens up Stars auditions first and recruits Luxiem while Nijisanji tries a different tactics and gets the Tempus boys.
>>31912246Magsissy already has that in the bag though
>>31912225It won't "topple," it'll just... fade out.
>>31912272
>>31912102Salome's doing a shill stream so naw.Fuwa only got 30k so any buff game will do it for Holo tonight.
>>31912276I believe Gamers will make it by virtue of being men in manjisanji.
>>31912225The one who will be toppled are newer wave. Older waves already have their own fanbase
>>31912225>I'm looking forward to the house of cards toppling.I doubt it will be so dramatic. They will just keep spraying chuubas at the wall, a few will stick and still be successful, while the rest will fall to the floor and be left to rot outside of event tourists.
>>31912304Interesting.
>>31912342Elira...
>>31912311Why on earth would I ever want to imagine that
>>31912311Then luxiem can't ponder to CN and Tempus will coombaiting
>watch random 2view stream>suddenly get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YqYRMqiRAw in my recommended streamsfor some literal who she sure has a lot of subs
>>31912333Risotto....
>>31912304YOU'RE ALIVE! Thanks for the service
>>31912434excellent bait sir
>>31912326
>>31912434>For some literal whoretard she's a mangakahttps://myanimelist.net/people/25879/Pochi_Iida
>>31912304>his audience shows up, checks what he's streaming and bolts if it doesn't interest them.Here is a good example of this, try and guess what he was doing this stream. Playing some soccer game
>>31912333Depend. If this gamer wave is no different than current waves, nothing will change, they will cannibalize their currnt market
>>31912304Mysta's retention is just super bad so his peaks are "misleading".This 7 hr Genshin stream ended up being a 6k stream for his average.He also started a pokemon playthrough near the end of July that he hasn't returned to yet and he only peaked at 6k for that so the debuffs might continue.
>>31912068Random peko stream
>>31912434please do not use my wife to shitpost. she's very sweet and her body is frail.
>>31912304Would you per chance provide Vox' as well?
>>31912311luxiem wont be popular without the cn viewerbase while tempus would be popular with the cn viewerbase>inb4 noir is a brotuberhe already went the gaybaiting for cash route before so theres a chance that he might do it again
>>31912467
>>31912414Nowa oji's tentacle rape ASMR kek
>>31912553if he can maintain what he has now he might not need to bait
>>31912553He has a wife and kids, he needs to pay his bills somehow.
>>31912304Vox, on the other hand, has the opposite pattern. His median is dropping precipitously because his audience won't even show up for the streams they aren't interested, but he gets very high averages on the streams that interest them
>>31912561
>>31910358>Ame>raid collectorkekShould have used any Tempus boys instead.
>>31912571Yea he is probably gonna be fine. I think he is also gonna get a relatively good amount of members when they open them up.
>>31912571your under the impression that he wont get the fujo buff that the luxiem design has and get fujos en masse
>>31912511I mean, not gonna lie, that's good, numberswise. Man's Tempus level, right?
>>31912571Vox could have been a comfy 4k streamer doing Runescape streams but instead decided to be a coomer and the only way he could force his fanbase to watch his streams is by doing ASMR mic shit while playing Runescape.
>>31912549See >>31912611
>>31912613
>>31912611Sasuga Mr. Coom. Guess it helps that his ASMR is some of his most viewed content and he got incredible retention on that stuff.
>>31912611damn so he basically pigeonholed himself to be a fujoslut
>>31912662I just saw
>>31912663
>>31910746https://twitter.com/houshou_marine/status/1563153091796795392
>>31911220Blue woman saved ID, now she's saving Tempus.
>>31907018look at yugo, selenposter.would you call that an incline?
>>31912749>houshou_marine
>>31912725
>>31912651I'm a Tempus fan but they're ants compared to Luxiem bro.The gap is bigger between them than NiijEN girls and HoloEN girls.
Collected some numbers on the NIJIMelodyTime relay.SC were mostly disabled or not used, Membership was the big gain next to subs.Also collected video views which should be mostly processed by this time.Some videos weren't on hololyzer, so i checked the archive manually, meaning everything in the pre-chat was lost.Biggest winners for memberships were the Koreans, with the organizer Seffyna being by far on top.>296 Seffyna>188 Shu Yamino >146 Yang Nari>133 Min Suha>110 Na Sera, Enna AlouetteFor Sub gains, again Seffyna on top, but the Indonesians benefited the most. EN's probably would have gotten 1-2k regularly. Hard to gauge how much this helped Salome, she was on track to get another 10k anyway.>10k Seffyna>6.2k Nara>6k Miyu, Yugo, Enna>5k Petra, Millie, ReimuFor vod views so far, Salome on top, with more than the Virtual to Live cover itself. This stat appears more influenced by the time of day and member's popularity, over their singing ability.>550k Salome>236k Mikoto>224k Toko>223k Shu>215k Akina>202k Chima>200k YugoSome milestones - Zea finally hitting 100k and Ngo hitting 400k.
kobo's mantra hujan is still popularhttps://twitter.com/NekonoiKatsu/status/1563925030299631617
>>31912304>>31912611Here is Luca. He seems to have eeked a persistent incline after his July boost, going from 6k-7k range to what seems to be a 7k-8k range.Next few months will tell if it is permament.
>>31906701it bothers me this isnt sorted by generation but alphabetical
>>31912820ehh, yes and no. They're doing better than luxiem did post debut. They obviously won't get the china buff but they have a lot of potential for growth. All it took was a couple of tweets and Regis - the 2.8k average - got an easy 8.9k peak stream.
>>31912846the fuckdo they just play Kobo songs at random raves in Indo?
>>31912820Not really Tempus averages is 1k higher than the NijiEn girls while HoloEN is really close to Luxiem
>>31912846>And that anon from the previous thread that ID isnt as popular as JP in their respective countries
So is this just a "blue woman buff" thing or a novelty thing that every collab between Tempus and the girls has produced considerably higher ccv for both parties? Kobo usually only hits a 9k peak in Valorant, today she hit 12k. Both instances she reclined to the same amount, but it seems there were more overall viewers because of the whole storyline surrounding the two on Twitter. Should we expect similar numbers for the DBD collab? Or do you think unicorns will protest watching and lower the overall viewership
goomba
>>31912846nijisanji viewfarming their song, so they can never replicate something like this
>>31912820Luxiem has "first en male wave" buff while myth has "first en vtubers gen" and "first en female gen" buffs.So it's hard to compare any wave/gen to these two.
>>31912799
Nowa z
>>31912820>The gap is bigger between them than NiijEN girls and HoloEN girls.How? HoloEN girls are above Luxiem. NijiEN girls are below Tempus. Therefore the gap must be bigger
>>31912954>almost all the comments are about forsen
>>31912952I think the Ragus Kobo tweets were the main reason rather than novelty. the recline is just the nature of it being a 5 hour Valorant stream
>>31911365this is from a chuuba that called petra "gura" ,anon.massive holofag.
>>31912957you also forgot the gura algo buff which is a fucking cheat in the clipping algo
>>31912984He always gets those miniscule Zs
>>31912954>lsfas much as i hate nijisisters i wouldnt wish the lsf community upon any vtuber
>>31912984Seems to be around a 3-400 Z
>>31912956
>>31912610Yes, me.
>>31911766a lot of vesties are indonesian, anon...
>>31912820Noir literally had more viewers than Vox today so I have no idea what you are talking about.
>>31912954Kek. Why does Gura have her own tag there alongside a sea of flesh streamers?
>Mumei superchat readingFauna really gonna stay at number 2 in EN for average this month
>>31912304>>31912611>>31912907Here is Shu. He got himself an incline in late May and is keeping most of it, having stabilized a little bit below his May peak
>>31912952Mori's collab with Nowa did well but the Magni one was nothing special numbers wise and Nowa and Magni both have reclined since then so it didn't help them much at all. I think the twitter setup and the bratty little sister-older brother dynamic is why this one did wellDead by daylight will probably do well because it's the first major collab but I don't see it benefiting anyone involved aside from maybe Mori
>>31913141you will never hear the end of it faunaschizo
>>31912544shigure ui > pochi
>>31913088Thank god they hate vtubers.
>>31911326since 2020.
>>31912934CCV is only one aspect, there's subs/VODs/music views/ceilings...etc. The Tempus boys are outperforming the heck out of CCV, but their growth in other aspects is very weak compared to the top of NijiEN. Luxiem's CCV has been stagnant for months, but their music views, subgrowth on youtube and follower growth on twitter is still retarded.Just trying to shut that comparison down early because I'm tired of people saying NijiEN girls are on HoloEN's level when that isn't close either.
>>31913116It's not a tag it's just their CSS setup they have. It pulls the channel name and then puts it in the title automatically.
>>31913200Luxiem is really strong in the metrics that kpop stans know how to easily inflate, huh
>>31913160Finally some good looking graph
>>31912846Indos, I KNEEL
>>31913014forsen
>>31913200>Music Views
>>31913104Vesper got 13k today?
>>31913160nice good for shu
>>31913198all itd take to shift that opinion there would be whatever streamer is the current darling of LSF to speak in favor of vtubers since that place is a true hivemind. It'll likely never happen but theyre that easy to sway.
Selamat pagi
>No streams all day>Guerilla to overlap Bae's premieres and streamGuess it is just a SC reading so won't hurt Bae too much, but it is typical EN.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AReHwSZWj1E
>>31913288He's talking about the runescape stream anon, we all know coombaiting Vox is going to give him numbers it's his only significant content.
>>31913288yeah Vesper is culled by 75%, hes actually 16k right now.
>>31913345Even that runescape has coombaiting title
>>31913288Vox barely hit 5k on his Runescape game.
>>31913234I mean
>>31913334Forgot picture.
>>31913164I feel like Regis would benefit the most, because of people learning that he's not at all what first impressions/debut indicate.
>>31913365so how much do niji have to cull selen to get her into a mocap suit?
>>31913288vesper mogged vox today
>>31912304>>31912611>>31912907>>31913160And here is Ike. It seems that his resting place is at the 5k line, but he boosts it up with choice of content, only for it to fall out of the 30 days range and his average return to its real place.
>>31913345I know, I'm saying it's fucking retarded to pretend Vox's runescape is his normal number when his actual numbers are his ASMR content.Vesper beating a super debuff Vox stream for a few seconds doesn't mean anything
>>31913334Mumei does a lot of superchat reading streams which is weird because she doesn't get a lot of superchats. Isn't she at the bottom of councilRyS
>>31913394seethe, 60k+ today
>>31913380Can we just disregard all niji music numbers from now on? Between this and the ad boosting, it's not legit.
>>31913284I mean shit, they were in that TV segment that Suisei had to watch, so it does matter.
30 days median of peak and true average charts>>31912304 :: Mysta>>31912611 :: Vox>>31912907 :: Luca>>31913160 :: Shu>>31913411 :: Ike
>>31913419I guess that would take her to around 40kg, so yea guess that seems about right.
>>31913419TomorrowThis thread runs on JST anon
>>31913419tomorrow
Nowa is rising again
so does Vesper only lose viewers in overlap, this man is holding 4k-4.5k since Altare got off
Selen stream doko
>>31913334There's an ame sc reading happening soon, that might overlap the first few
>>31913419Nah. 60 is too sexy. My guess is 120kg minimum.
This got viral kinda. This lewd counts since she's sankisei (former)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzjtuMtVWLMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzjtuMtVWLMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzjtuMtVWLM
>>31912907Luca benefits a lot from not sharing a timeslot with anyone else in Luxiem.Basically gets an easy 8-10k every time he does buff content and he's the only one in Luxiem that likes Minecraft.iLUNA was supposed to be some overlap for him, but they didn't affect him at all.
>>31913497It's getting to the point where the recline is turning into an incline because everyone who's stayed 6 hours will probably stay for the rest of the stream, people are coming back to the stream, and curious tourists who want to check out this dude who's been playing FTL for 6 fucking hours straight
6 and a half hours in and Noir is somehow inclining to 4.2k again. Reminder that last time he streamed this some people here called him dumb.
>>31913567>This got viral kinda.this why she's been acting a little sus lately?
>>31913567
>>31913583If he doesn't get, at minimum, 3k he's doomed.
>>31913418Mumei treats spachas the same way Kiara/Fauna/IRyS does, but you know. She's Mumei about it. So it's less>tangent paradiseand more>autism centralWhich, if you're a Hooman, is probably what you want anyways
>>31913583If he can't get at least 4k with this, I'll take it that Ren is dead in the water and that Kyo is the only salvageable one in Iluna.
>>31913380I don't think we will ever get a proper barometer for Luxiem. All of their numbers are artificially inflated by their insane fanbase. Their streams are 100% botted to some degree as are their subs. We know from stuff like this that their music views are fake as well. Even their superchat numbers can be questioned after that story came out about the fan who stole donation money and gave it to Vox.
>>31913616
>>31913583So which other Niji gonna show up in this stream?
>>31913672
>>31913630Even Scarle got 3k with RFA so Ren should clear it easily.Dude is still dead in the water tho.Talk about wasting the hottest NijiEN debut ever.
>>31913334>>Guerilla to overlap Bae's premieres and streamMan at least pay attention; her SC reading starts after the last of the premiers.
Bae is going to fuck up her channel's numbers again
>>31913567>>31913616>>31913672>>31913715>The only reason Rushia trends anymore is cause of NTR shitkek I hope this makes her seethe
>>31913567>20220829_072912.jpg>>31913616>20220829_072914.jpg>>31913672>20220829_072917.jpg >>31913715>20220829_072919.jpg>saves NTR shitYeah that tracks
>>31913404>raid number barely beats ultra debuffed numberWoah... so this is the power of Tempiss. Have you looked at their CCV actual averages? Noir doesn't beat anyone in Luxiem, not even Ike.
>>31913676There should be like a daily tally to show how many /26 of the nijiEN have been seen stream
>>31913772lmao
>>31913200>music views
So here's a question:Does anyone here watch any of Luxiem? And if anyone does, does anyone want to shill them, like, in a genuine way? Like, without shitting on other people to do so?
>>31913778imagine celebrating winning against holostars. you nijinigs are shameless.
>>31913567>40k likes almost>NTR>sifting likes real quick almost all western likessasuga western world
>>31913772holy kek