/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3178309

ok but how can you improve it?

>>3179031
4chan meme review.

>>3179054
I said improve

It was directed at Reddit you tard

>>3179031
watamelon review.

>>3179139
Not even a mean comment. Wtf kaichou

>>3179166
Critical comments that aren't mean can sometimes hurt the most.

>>3179093
The good shit on her would be a riot watching her explain to someone else.

>>3179139
just shuts down criticism without any interest in improving, fuckin based

>>3179093
4chan meme REVIEW.
THAT FUCKING BITCH knows this place.

>>3179466
Based but unironically

Fuck improovers

who the hell is Coco

>>3179031

It's a fundamentally flawed idea in the first place, should be entirely tossed out if you're worried about quality entertainment. The only value is the collab guests, and half the time they aren't even really into it and don't contribute much.
Honestly meme review should be reworked into a subsection of some larger variety hour thing.

>>3179473
>talks in depth about hating bugs
She does.

>>3179139
They hated him, because he told them the truth.

>>3179031
you can't
memes just aren't funny
explaining memes to people even less so

>>3179139
>just hurts
What does this even mean? Is she ignoring him or saying she's hurt by this? I don't understand.

>>3179788
They hated him, because he and bunch of reterded cunts forgot the premise of that goddamn show.
Meme review exist to SHOW and EXPLAIN western memes(from hololive official subreddit) to a JAPANESE audience and holos.

>>3180058
Then let's show Japanese viewers some good shit, instead of 30 minute tierlists.

>it's ok to be shit if i acknowledge it
If anything, that makes it even worse. Incompetence I can forgive.

>>3178309
COCO LOVE, REDDIT LOVE

>>3180058
Most of the time coco can't explain the meme or doesn't know that the meme is a reference to something else, she just translates the memes

>>3179976
Coco's English has gotten progressively worse over the past year. I don't even know how it deteriorated that fast.

>>3180641

Probably from never really using it

>>3178309
imagine still defending Coco after this

>>3180733
If she NEVER used it then I would understand, but she does speak English every now and then and interacts with fans a lot.

>>3180756
mr koro please no............

>>3180324
>>3180510
then direct your complaints to those who make those memes????

>>3180793
It can be harder to type something out fluently compared to just spiggin it. For example I don't sound retarded when I'm having a conversation.

>>3180836
>spiggin
wtf does this mean

>>3180641
She's speaking Japanese 95% of the time including at home (as Kanata is JOP she won't be speaking English at home) so it's just getting rusty
her only english interactions are in text on the internet and brief moments on stream translating herself, lack of use is causing her to make JP style mistakes

>>3180852
It's a reference to a haachama clip

>>3180819
My complain was about coco though, she can't explain memes because she doesn't understand current western meme culture or isn't up to date with the latest meme of the month

>>3179139
>Not even mean
>49 downvotes

God I hate reddit

>>3180946
I despise the current internet culture of "if it isn't completely 100% supportive never say anything"
Hugboxes have ruined everything, you need some abuse sometimes to bring you back to reality.

>>3180968
It's a logically sound rule for the internet.
You can go anywhere on the internet, it makes absolutely no sense to say something negative when you can just go somewhere else.

>>3181021
When you have nothing but sycophants sucking up your arse you produce a lower quality produce
negative criticism is an important part of the creative process

>>3181074
Sure but you already know it's a hugbox, why are you complaining in a hugbox when it doesn't belong?

>>3181021
It was a stupid comment by the guy even if he didn't mean to insult.
He seems to think that the meme reviews are directed for the english crowd when they are not. And that much should be obvious. It is meant to be a way tô introduce the EN internet culture to the JP, so she really has to explain it in detailed because whiles it is very quicker to make sense for us, for the Japanese even if they understand the words in the meme it still makes almost no sense to them.

I guess Coco could show more Japanese memes to the EOPs so they will understand just how different both cultures are and stop being so fucking entitled.

>>3181121
where else can you leave your criticisms? comment on twitter or the videos where they get buried instantly

>>3181175
What makes you think your criticism or even opinion is more relevant than the opinion of any other literally who?
In the end it comes down to the target themselves, they can just freely select any opinion to react to or to ignore, when they're popular most of it just ends up being noise.

>>3180058
so it was never meant for us, was that a lie?

If you've seen one meme review you've seen them all

>>3179054
How could Coco try to explain a picture of a nigger saying "I can't sneed" to a Japanese girl who's view of America comes entirely from iCarly?

>can't sing
>sucks at gaming
>cringe meme
>no chemistry with others
this westoid scum need to quit and become a full time whore already

>>3181171
>He seems to think that the meme reviews are directed for the english crowd when they are not
This idea certain people get that specific Holo content is solely "for" certain groups with absolutely zero evidence is baffling. At no point did Coco say
>Meme review is for JOPs, pls Englishfags stay quiet if you chose to watch anyway
Meme review exists, like pretty much every stream, for the purpose of getting as much views and cash as possible. And its by far one of most accesible EOP stream because Coco translates so much, why would she bother if EOPs arent meant to watch?

>>3181171
Not the same complaint but coco half of the time can't even explain the memes correctly, she also realized this too so she goes for the templates that are easy to understand for everyone, but then what is the purpose of explaining? Everyone will instantly tell that an image is a dumb russia pettan joke, haachama crazy joke, suichan psychopath joke, etc because the japanese have the same jokes. And when she haves a long meme like a tierlist she can't make a comment about it because it's either wrong or it has too many references, the graph from yesterday didn't even make sense

>>3181234
hence the rapidly declining quality as they select only the supportive comments and ignore the criticisms

>>3178309
no wonder her numbers are so shit, she's behaving like a fucking niji

>>3181371
And that is just the logical result of the nature of the internet. You may not like it but it is what it is.

>>3179166
woman please understand

>>3179620
OH GGGGGAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWDDDD I'M IMPROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVING

Kiryu Coco I want her to sit on my face with her dragon fat ass and fart in my mouth. Not one of those weak farts but one of those nice sloppy one where a little bit of shit comes out. As the shit enters my mouth only then will I truly feel alive nothing else will sustain me. Ever night before I go to sleep I grab to volleyballs and spray them with liquid ass then rub them all over my face pretending it's coco ass while jacking off my 2 inch sword. In hope of one day this will come true

>>3181301
Clumsily and not getting it herself.

>>3181499
uhhh... NEXT MEME!

Coco doing a review of the opening scene of The Dark Knight Rises?

>>3181313
t.zhang

>>3178309
fuck you Zhang we love Coco here no matter how cringe she is

>>3181586
>>3181584
t. reddit tourists

your complaints are dull because she repurposes reddit content. She doesnt make it herself.
The guess the guest template was made by her but its not her fault reddit can only make the same sort of joke. Just lean back and enjoy Coco and Guest having fun laughing at dumb redditors just like we are.

>>3179031
Japanese meme review.

>>3181171
>tô
esl spotted
>introduce the EN internet culture to the JP
reddit is not en internet culture

>>3181609
NEXT MEME

>>3181600
fuck you nigger

>>3181584
>>3181586
>anyone who doesn't like reddit dragon is chinese

>>3181609
Yah and she also chooses the content which means some responsibility is over her.

>>3181736
correct.

>>3181736
cocofags have lost their sense to reality, what's new

>>3181749
meds

>>3181736
unironically this

>>3181728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-nqmcgUVH4

>>3181736
Yes.

>>3181736

Do you think pptenshi fucks coco after a long day of work to relax her cause I bet 100 dollars they do and the holohouse smells like vaginal fluid. Due to all the orgys they throw under the pretense of takoyaki partys. Why is life so unfair next time I wish I was reborn as coco bed so I could drink all the holohouse members bodily fulids.

>>3181467
unironically this
>>3179620
fuck you nigger I'm improooving
oh god I'm gonna IMPROOOOOOOVE

>>3181947
Kanata is the one getting the Cocock

>>3181947

Kanata and Coco definitely fuck, that's just stating the obvious

>>3181749
>>3181828
>>3181887
>>3181927

the cope kek

>>3178309
nah, >we still love her here

>>3182037
>we

go back

>>3179031
it should be about shitting on reddit memes

>>3181736
You got that right

>>3178309
I don't understand, is she not saying that she acknowledges it's shit and that reviewing shitty memes is meant to be the point?
I don't see how this is a "BTFO"

>>3181843
cry everytime

>>3182049
Yes, >we

>>3182119
The problem isnt just that the memes are shit, its that the show is frequently painful to watch for various reasons (overlong explanations that the guest has to pretend to find funny, repeated memes etc,)

>>3178309
the only highlight of her *clap* *clap* meme review is when matsuri was the guest and she laughed at japanglish memes. that laugh made my day.

>>3178309
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
God, I hate Coco so fucking much.

>>3178309
NEXT MEME

>>3182119
reddit fags are obsessed with making the paper dragon look more amazing than what she really is.

>>3182909
i think you are reading too much into it, schizo-kun

>>3181171
>introduce EN internet culture to JP
That's why it's shit and needs to stop. I don't want the holoJPs using nigger vernacular and unfunny reddit """humor""". They're charming because they don't understand us and have their own culture and humor.

>>3179139
>A completely inoffensive opinion that is backed up by a reasoned argument.
> -49
This is exactly why I don't like Reddit. It's an echo chamber where you either have the "right" opinion, or you get downvoted to the point where your comment is buried.

>>3182350
I liked a few of the Korone ones. Some of the other meme reviews are alright, but you can tell which ones weren't planned out ahead of time due to the quality.

>>3182909
almost like she is a paper dragon...

>>3178309
She doesn't even knows this place exist, retardchama.

>>3182302
>overlong explanations that the guest has to pretend to find funny
Oh christ, this makes them unwatchable for me. Coco's actually really smart to do them, because it builds community interaction (especially since that's something she can't do properly anymore due to the china thing) and keeps her living in ledditor's heads rent free because they expect acknowledgment from her on a weekly basis. She's playing them for the simpletons they are. But the videos are difficult to get through.

>>3183035
God I hadn't even considered this. It hurts my brain when Korone says "doggo" because a bunch of ledditors and their tumblrspeak bullshit can't say anything but "HOLY SHIT KORONE CUTE KAWAII HECKIN DOGGO DOIGN A SMOL BORK SMOL BEAN CINAMMON ROLL HECKIN WHOLESOME FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKKKK!!!!"

>>3183206
From what I know, 2chan is notorious in Japan, so I don't think it'd be too far fetched for her to think there'd be a western equivalent

Hey guys how big do you think coco boobs are cause I want to take my wee wee and pretend that I'm sticking my dick between them. Right now I thinking vollyballs are near them but soccer balls my also work. Any idea on what type of ball should I use?

every Coco thread is one massive cope
hilarious

>>3183266
Yeah, I fucking hate it. At least she doesn't say OOHH NOO MUH HECKIN DOGGERINO

>>3183035
Relax, anon. Sharing cultures is natural when your audience is global, them trying to appeal to the EN side is natural, as is picking up slang terms from those interactions. As long as they aren't being forced into it against their will, I don't see a problem with it. That being said, the shitters in the HoloID chat trying to force them to speak their native language are exactly the type of thing that shouldn't be happening if you ask me.

>>3178309
>>3179166
>>3179466
>>3179467
>>3180756
>>3180891
>>3180946
>>3180968
>>3181121
>>3181175
>>3181259
>>3181313
>>3181324
>>3181392
>>3181600
>>3181736
>>3182049
>>3182302
>>3182584
>>3182909
>>3183074
>>3183186

The chang's have infiltrated since long ago. There's guaranteed to be at least 3 or more (you)'s. And they are mixing in hate for reddit with hate for coco to try to bait people to post coco hate on the site she uses without doing it themselves.

Those two redditors are 100% reddit tourists who couldn't tell the difference between shitposts and changposts and decided to be "helpful". Stop replying to the bait here and helping the chang's create more stupid reddit tourists like them.

>>3183412

Is it really her picking up reddit speaking that makes her say doggo? or is it just the japanese's tendency to add in the "o" sound because of how their syllables work.

>>3183502
Can't cope your way out of this, bro. She'd say "doggu". Look at the chat. These niggers call herr doggo, and that's why she uses that dreaded "word"

>>3183502
Probably a little of both.

>>3183206
>>3183295
What normies don't know about 4chan?

>>3180819
>IT'S REDDIT'S FAULT
>Implying she couldn't just stop using those retarded memes that she fully knows by now they take 20 minutes and go nowhere
You're as retarded as the redditfags making those tierlists

>>3183613
>normies
please go back

>>3183501
Unironically meds. Rent free

>>3183555
Trips of truth.
Damn, I was hoping it was the former, big shame that it's the latter.

>>3183501
I'm not Chinese, take your medicine

>>3183502
She's playing it up, she knows how to pronounce dog correctly

Hi guys It's me the dude who trying to find the perfect type of ball to replicate a coco pazuri. I forget to mention does anybody know once I get the ball how much should I deflate it to get it the booby substance I'm thinking only about leaving some air out. So that it has the texture of being kinda hard but still soft you know. Another problem is how Do I stick the two balls together or should I even go for the same type ball cause I'm thinking know an soccer ball and a vollyball cause you know how one boob is typically bigger than the other. Then I tape them together but if I do the tape There a good chance my dick will get stuck in the tape and will not have the pazuri feel to it but if I use glue there a good chance my dick would get stuck to glue and I have to go the docter to explain why my dick is stuck to pair of balls. So instead of just using a plain vollyball and scrocer ball I think I should cover them with yarn then sew them together but if I do that my dick would get stuck in the yarn and when I climax I would have no idea how to clean up the yarn. Can anybody help me with this problem.

>>3183501
Hello anonchama, your usual prescription is ready.

>>3183776
Use yarn and put it in the washing machine afterwards

>>3183709
Are we gonna ignore the fact that hard consonant sounds can change the last syllable of a word in Japanese phonetics from the typical "u" sound?

>>3183915
yes, because trips speak the truth

>>3183501
do tatsunoko really?

>>3183980
Understandable.

Seethe game is too strong.

>>3184041
you will never be cool or welcome here

>>3183634
Its not like any other of her content is super difficult to make either
>Zatzudan Turn on stream and talk
>Game Stream Turn on stream and play the game
It really speaks volumes that she can't even put effort into a show like meme review when its already lazy content to begin with

>>3184063
And I repeat...

>>3184133
cope, your oshi is unfunny triggered whore

>>3184041

>>3184078
I hate when people say this shit. It's easy to turn on a stream and talk or play games, it's not easy to make that engaging or entertaining for your audience. It becomes even harder as the size of your audience grows. Now, you may not like her content and that's fine, but maintaining a dedicated fanbase like Coco has is no joke.

>>3183501
meds schizo

>>3181736
How does it feel to keep taking L's from from horny, foul mouthed orange people, you gutter oil eating insect?

>>3184281
hololive buff is too strong.

Hi guys it's me the coco pazuri dude again as I heading to the store I learned something that using yarn won't work for an coco pazuri since if I use yarn then it would be a watame's pazuri not an coco. So now I'm stuck back to step one on how to do an coco pazuri. If I don't get a pazuri tonight then I don't know what I do with my life. I mean I already wasting away posting on fucking 4 chan of a places instead doing something productive like learning japanese or getting an job yet here I lay like garbage reading an damm fourm about an big tiddy dragon meme review of all things. Where did my life go wrong I know I should j have oin the army but noooo I wanted to be an youtuber and this where it led me to failing to replicate an dragon pazuri and reading comments on fucking 4 chan. Shit man so does anybody have any good recomdentions on how to do an coco pazuri or should I just do an watamate one instead cause I'm tired of this shit cause I just want to bust a nut and go to bed.

>>3184573

Watame is better anyways

>>3184573
Finding out the best way to simulate a paizuri is a perfectly productive use of your time.

>>3179054
>4chan ever producing something worthy of a stream

>>3183501
kys shizo. Eveyone hates coco not just zhang.

>>3178309
Acknowledging that something you make is shit doesn't suddenly mean that you can't be criticized for it. If anything, admitting that you know better but choose to do it anyway is more deserving of criticism then if you were simply doing it out of ignorance. You don't have to put in the effort to improve if you are content with only making shit, but if you choose to only make shit then you can't complain when you only receive responses that shit deserves.

>>3184784
>then
than

I'll be honest here. I hate reddit more than I like Taiwan. The chinks did fuck with the original Haachama though so fuck the cockroaches.

>>3184281
Its definitely alot easier when you have a cult like parasocial fanbase that will watch anything you do no matter what. part of the blame is on tatsunoko's for having no standards in the first place

>>3184831
You're right. Specifically, the first "then" should be "than". The second "then" is correct. English is a retarded language.

>>3181171
anon, even the jp fans are bored already of the meme review, they say the exact same shit as us, that only was fun the few first times, that is repetitive and lately those streams don't make them laugh not even once, there are several threads similar to this in 2ch and 5ch

>>3184228
Do you like it, guys? I think it came out better than I expected.

>>3184526
seething cocofag - the chinese live in his head rent free

>>3185006
there is one single solution to all your and theirs problems with Coco meme review,
if you don't like it, don't watch it

>>3179031
Make it more than a week between each one. Bi-weekly or monthly. It gives some of them time to activate their braincell and make some kind of OC and then it can be pushed to the top. Otherwise it gets announced who the guest host is and everything will become the same joke they know for that person. In addition to the endless charts and lists. So really, there is no saving it.

>>3185045
well, Cocofags and Coco live rent free in yours

>>3185006
>2ch and 5ch

>>3179031
desu just can it, like asacoco it's run its course, replace it with some new show

>>3185149
Sorry for shitting on your oshi and Mene review in the thread discussing her recent yab. Do you want me to say that?

Man fuck Watame her yarn pazuri give my dick an rug burn and now I have talk to my docter about these marks on my dick. Plus my room why smell like fucking cum and didn't even get on the balls it got all over the fucking carpet. I knew I should not have trusted the sheep bitch ass nigger. I done with this shit I knew should done the coco pazuri. But here I'm now reading an shitty thread about shit memes about an fucking shit post review trying to cool my penis off with ice and I can't even go to bed now due to pain my dick in. Mannn Fuck this site, fuck reddit, fuck twitter, fuck social media in general I going to create my own site dedicated to vtubers pazuri and how to replicate the texture of vtuber boob. Fuck yall I'm out of this hell hole.

>>3179139
>Give constructive criticism
>Get mobbed down
Internet was a mistake

>>3185408
I see, you were too weak and unworthy to handle Watame's majestic sheep boobs, and the universe punished you

>>3184908
do the chinese even bother to fuck with Hachama?
theyre just ass blasted that Coco made an apology, and then told them to fuck off after the apology. Showing how insincere the apology was. A move that only a retarded woman from America could do.

>>3179139
>Wrongthink resulting in lowered social score
Really makes you think

>>3185206
>2ch and 5ch
https://egg.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/sugiuraayano/1618702468/
https://tarte.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/sugiuraayano/1619923522/
https://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-11565-89607.html
https://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-12029-93777.html

>>3185513

The fuck was there to apologise about Zhang?

>>3185671
The right move would have been to not apologize at all instead of a half assed apology.

>>3180946
OH GOD NOT HIS REDDIT POINT ANYTHING BUT THAT OH THE HUMANITY

>>3185718
>Be Japanese
>Not apologize
Imagine

>>3185513
No-one could sincerely apologize about retarded communists being offended. It's like asking someone to apologize because her thetans were misaligned or she disturbed the magic crystals or similar psychotic shit that only exists in the minds of deranged people

>>3185513
Anon, Taiwan IS a country. The Chinese ARE going to get nuked. Your mother WILL be my comfort woman.

To be fair, it's hard to pull off memes on command in less than 48 hours.
Most people rely on combining existing memes or just beating the joke to dead (horny marine, drunk lamy, gori kanata, flat rushia, etc).
And sometimes when a good thing appears, they can't use it for copyright or because it's risky.

>>3179681
this

>>3185916
That's why she should gather the best memes for few weeks before inviting someone. I don't know why would she limit herself and creators to such a short time.

>>3184948
Almost every big streamer has a dedicated, cult-like fanbase built on parasocial relationships whether they want it or not. That's how the Internet goes.

>>3185916
>To be fair, it's hard to pull off memes on command in less than 48 hours.
This. Announce the next guest at the end of the current stream. A week's notice would really help.

>>3179031
Make the redditors do their japanese reps and actually watch full streams so they can get a better idea of what the girls are like and scalp ideas for jokes. Instead of cherry picking clips that simplifies the girls' personalities. You can tell western vtubers get better jokes/memes since people actually understand them.

>>3179054

>>3178309
every time she puts a tier list on screen from now on she'll remember that meme and those reddit posts

>>3183502
She got it from chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUF1PpZyDJk

>>3187010
I hope she puts more tierlists, they're a thousand times better than zero effort memes like pettan jokes

>>3187174
They might be if Coco didn't spend 15 fucking minutes explaining each and every one to her collab partner.

>>3181371
I wouldn't say the ignore the criticisms, I think they do listen to them. I think the problem, as you were saying, is that because these places are such hugboxes it's impossible to say anything critical without being downvoted/silenced through the system itself. You can only say something critical to your own detriment, as it were. I agree that this is a problem. That's why 4chan is superior to reddit, because there is no fucking shitty voting system and people are allowed to speak their mind freely.

AHEM
.
FUCK CHINKS
thank for read my post.

>>3179031
you can't. It's an awful website to get jokes from. Just bring back Asacoco

>>3185485
>internet
Just reddit. Before Reddit and upvote/downvote systems existed, there used to be places where you could be challenged on about any opinion you had instead of having to cave to groupthink from automated moderators.

>>3185594
2ch and Futaba are not of the same entity, retard

The thing is tons of the reddit memes aren't even so shit that they turn out being funny. They're just boring or confusingly inaccurate. That Hololive rabbit hole one a few episodes back that went on for like 10 fucking minutes and had to be separated into three different fucking images didn't make me cringe or laugh at how stupid it was, it just made me want to turn the stream off and go do literally anything else. So many of the tier lists make it horrendously obvious that the makers didn't even bother watching a clip of most of the girls on the list. They're not "The Room" bad, they're "Netflix comedy special featuring some fat butch dyke" bad.

She should do a one-off meme review where she asks for submissions that don't follow any previously used template. Or more specifically:

>No guess who's coming edits (it wouldn't be a guest episode anyways)
>No tier-lists
>No hi honey memes
>No kaigainiki memes
>No Japanglish/Cocoenglish memes
>No breast size memes for any holo
>No horny memes for Marine
>No Suisei psycopath memes
>No Yagoo's dream memes
>No meme referencing Coco teaching english swear words to other Holos and Yagoo or A-chan being troubled by it
>No charts which attempt to compare/describe all the holos to/with something else

At the very least, whatever actually gets picked will give reddit several new templates to beat to death for the next year of meme-review.

>>3185594
oh wait nvm is that the 2ch Hiro owns?

>>3181021
>It's a logically sound rule for the internet.
It's the worst rule ever put into effect on the internet. All this does is create different hugboxes where zero opposing thought can ever penetrate. So congrats, instead of making a group of people who discuss their problems, you made two groups of extremists who don't discuss anything and abhor anyone with mixed views that doesn't fit into the groupthink.
Reddit, twitter, facebook, all social media was a mistake.

>>3181121
>>3181234
I sometimes wonder if people actually believe this.

>>3178309
I think deep down everyone agrees that her meme reviews are fucking trash, like how do you even watch that and not cringe yourself to death?
inb4 I get called a chink: Coco is based, Taiwan is an independent country and chinks are bugmen

>>3187935
Preach my brother! We need to take back the holy land that is social media and get Congress to regulate these absolute scum. ALL HAIL FREEDOM OF SPEECH

>>3187935
i too have played mgs2

I'll be honest. I slept through the past 2 or 3 meme review streams. Gomen...

>>3188178
t.missed the point spectacularly

>>3183074
We're not any better, this site just doesn't have a obvious metric to see it but it's there. Any wrong think here is met with (You) and people trying to insult your opinion.

>>3187826
Most of them are basically Youtube comment template tier levels of shit.
Half the time they don't even make a bit of fucking sense outside of some shit discord groups inner circle. HA HA INSIDE JOKES LMOOA

>>3187935
>>3187977
Hey, I'm not disagreeing with the ethics here, I do think people should listen to criticism and not just praise.
But it's about practicality, how do you get some e-celeb to listen to criticism if they don't want to? What right do you have as literally just one more nobody in the waves of thousands of nobodies saying something to them?

Think about it from the perspective of the target, you get thousands upon thousands of people saying shit at you, sure you could find an actual constructive criticism there but it's buried under thousands of shitposts. It's more practical to just filter everything out and use the nice messages as motivation and only listen to criticism from your peers, if you even want it.

>>3188336
so your shit opinion gets tons of attention instead of disappearing

coco should graduate asap

>>3193545
what kind of atrocious harm an anime girl on internet done to you to be subject of your hatred and wishes to end her career?
Did she mention the name of the island you don't want to hear?
Or maybe you are one of those, who see her as western imperialist who tries to bring it's culture to your sacred japanese land?
either way, take some meds

>>3193545
you will never
EVER
get this to happen zhang

>>3178309
More like the girl of the glass house got BTFO by a single critic.

>>3185578
It's such a great system that they're going to put it in real life soon.

>>3179139
The absolute state of reddit

How good do you think coco pussy is cause I feel like it would not be gorilla grip but she have kind of sloshy one with a hint strong tightness to it,

The fact that she calls the show shit i would think she wouldn't care what people think. But apparently she does? Just seems like she knows its a garbage show but does it anyway for some reason. pretty scummy honestly.

>hate coco
>hate Zhangs way more
>forced to support menhera reddit dragon
God I wish the bugs weren't so awful and didn't sperg so I could openly shit on her. I support Coco in anything she wants just to spite the bugs but I ain't happy about it.

>>3178309
coco = kuso = shit in brazil

>>3193379
Because if people are allowed to speak freely, if there is an actual legit criticism than it will float to the top of that community and won't be artificially silenced/suppressed like it is now. Then if the e-celeb wants to ignore then they do so to their own detriment.

>>3195930
I don't really understand it either. The whole idea is to build camaraderie between JP/EN, why purposefully try to make it "shit"? Why not actually make it entertaining and engaging?

>>3179054

I want coco fat ass to sit on my face shit in my mouth. Not like normal regulars shit I want one of the big fat nast one that full liquid and I will gobble it all on and savor the test cause only then will fully become one with kiryu coco and I will relish in the fact that her shit will have tiny pices of shit that get stuck in teeth and I will lick my teeth in joy. Who with me guys!!!

>>3196889
Scatfag, please stop.

>>3196889
i had gag reflex reading it, good job anon

>>3196610
How would it float? Maybe if we had a system where the masses can "vote" the criticism "up"...

>>3179031
Here My idea to improve the meme review pick out the memes as random but randomize them so they appear in random ever. Then have the talent take turns saying next meme and whenever someone says next meme and it's an yagoo meme they take a shot.

the only thing getting btfo is her boring ass and her unwillingness to do more asacoco.
she only has her simps and saviorfags to thank for because theyre nothing more than cash drones.

>>3198805
It would float because it would be an opinion that could be freely shared. If it's not artifically suppressed (like it is in a karma system) then that opinion would get noticed, sooner or later. Again, if the streamer completely ignores it, that's to their detriment.

>>3198805
No one is going to vote the criticism up, are you retarded?

>>3199432
now tell me my intelligent friend, Is Coco doing atything less or more than any other holo?
the fact that she have incetive to do something more than just, stream game, karaoke, zatsudan, is more than welcome in stale hololive.
discuraging it does harm to the hololive as a whole.
also asacoco is now imposible due to new Cover policies, see Kanata new show cancellation

What's crazy is the contrast between how much effort went into asacoco against how low effort this shit is.
It's like she went from workaholic to lazy bum.

>>3179054

>>3199976
That's the problem nobody cares that pretty much all the holos are doing the bare minimum. because most people only care about the parasocial aspect of vtubing and not the content. Cover's retarded policies dont help either.

>>3200618
I mean, I don't know what more you really want them to be doing. They're meant to be banking on their personality, interacting with fans, and, for some, promoting their music careers. I don't really see an issue with it, personally.

>>3180324
>my opinion matters
>I don't care about the guest
>why am I not interested
Fuck off

>>3184780
>Eveyone

>>3199878
Do you have basis for this absurd belief that a proper criticism would not be buried in a constant flow of new opinions?
It sounds overly optimistic.

>>3199976
wtf what kind of show did they cancel

>>3179031
you don't, it's a shitpost review the memes were never meant to be "good"

>>3199976
>Is Coco doing atything less or more than any other holo?
Compared to before and other holos she is doing way less, Coco doesn't take chances anymore, some of the other holos try new things that could have success or fail, Subaru with Oozora police, Mio has multiple memorable projects, Miko doing holobaby with Luna, or the Sport Festival event, Towa and Robocco doing Mario Kart and other tournaments, Haato with the schizo arc, Kanata organizing multiple performances with other holos in 3d, Okayu and her host club, even Kiara and her Holotalk and many more anon.
Coco can't do Asacoco anymore, so what? why is she not trying something else? the number one super chatted girl in the world thing flew way over her head, and she doesn't want to try new things anymore.

>>3201085
Yes. Literally the internet before (message boards) and today outside of karma systems. People like the Game Grumps used to read their comments and would take notice of criticism. You don't need fucking KARMA to become aware of actual useful critical input. Back to plebbit with you.

>>3199976
>Is Coco doing atything less or more than any other holo?
Kiara is unironically doing more with Holotalk. And no I'm not a KFP

>>3201085
God you sound like such a soi-chugging faggot. "Do you have a source for that???" Holy shit you're a fucking cunt.

>>3201782
And those days are gone because the internet has grown out of proportion, reading through comments to dig out decent opinions becomes a monumental chore now.

>>3201665
Its probably management, you stupid stinking chicom

>>3201864
>what are community managers who can do these jobs for us
>even the biggest content creators can't afford to hire anyone! hyuk

>>3201905
And those community managers contribute to the echo chamber culture.

>>3201939
If your job is to read comments of a community of a content creator, and you only report "everything looks great boss! people love everything you're doing", then you are going to get fired quick or the person who hired you is a complete and total dumbfuck.

>>3201085
>Do you have basis for this absurd belief that a proper criticism would not be buried in a constant flow of new opinions?

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a9335/upvotes-downvotes-and-the-science-of-the-reddit-hivemind-15784871/
>Three business researchers, led by Lev Muchnik at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, conducted their own online voting aggregation experiment, the results of which came out today in the scientific journal Science. They found that groupthink plays a surprisingly large a role in how an online communities like Reddit make quality judgments. For some users in the study, seeing a single extra upvote very early in a comment's life could change their mind about how they felt about a comment, regardless of what the comment actually said.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/341/6146/647.abstract

Okay, your turn.

>>3201978
And that complete and total dumbfuck establishes a loyal community that continues to support them anyway.

>>3201864
Having the group decide 'decent opinions' is monumentally worse and I don't think you can even argue it isn't.

>>3201978
>If your job is to read comments of a community of a content creator, and you only report "everything looks great boss! people love everything you're doing", then you are going to get fired quick
Prove that the managers or even community relation jobs at cover is in any way affected by simply reporting everything as "Going fine" on reddit and twitter.

>>3201085
Before the internet turned an entire generation into ADHD schizos, people could read fast and assess the worth of a statement through a shared morality. They didn't need artificial popularity measurements to know what to read and how to react. Those days are gone unfortunately

>>3178309
pissing into an ocean of piss, and all that. The real question is, did she start doing this because pewdiepie influence or what?

>>3202080
So upvotes create bias, does this mean without upvotes, content creators will always manage to find and follow proper criticism?

>>3202181
It means upvotes and downvotes create groupthink. Groupthink creates echo chambers where they can't find proper criticism because anyone who tries to say even something as innocuous as "This was kind of boring and was hard to look at" like >>3179139 gets 50 downvotes regardless if they're right or not.

>>3202142
Why are the days gone, how did people lose out the ability to assess worth to populism?
Surely if something doesn't have the integrity to survive in a new climate, it's just not viable to maintain.

>>3202231
>Why are the days gone, how did people lose out the ability to assess worth to populism?
Because of shit sites like Reddit, twitter, and facebook devoured the internet through sheer financial force of will and implemented systems meant to crush any opposing thought.

>>3201665
>conviniently forgetting meme review with guests every week in a theread about it

It just boils back to the question of "why are you watching it if you don't like it?"

>>3201665
>conveniently forgetting meme review with guests every week, in a thread about it.

>>3202379
pic

>>3202400
NEXT MEME!

>>3201665
Literally almost any big projects or collabs she would've wanted or participate for the past 7 months until now would be hampered by spammers attempting to sabotage it by any means. Do you honestly believe management would allow her to do anything costly or big knowing antis will try and ruin the fun for the Holos and viewers?


>>3201514
Kanata's new project involved promoting Hololive stuff weekly or so. IIRC she was forced to put it on hold in account to a disruptive new rule where her episodes would've been heavily reviewed before being greenlit or something.

>>3202181
>always
Why do you put that shit there, you slimey fuck? No solution works 100% of the time.

>>3184908
migo......

>Seething over 1hr/week show they don’t have to watch.

>>3203120
Look at how many people on this board seethe over vshoujo and yet they don't watch them. I have watched the first meme review and it was good. but now every episode is like beating a dead horse. Its sad because Coco used to be so creative with her content

>>3201665
What a retarded post, you should be ashamed of yourself.

>>3178309
Thanks to all of this petty nonsense she is learning a new language to reach a new audience that actually cares about her.
She is running into our brazos now.
seethe gringo

>>3203120
They don't have to but based on the threads and replies, they do watch it.

>>3185513
>soulless bug detected

>>3195568
its really funny how bad these people are at handling any kind of critic or feedback. dare to say your honest opinion and you have a brainless simp army and the mods after you even if what you said gets drowned in the spam in seconds

>>3204725
Good post anon. I'm sure your credit score will raise enough this time for that health bill.
>>3178309
Isn't that just pissing into an ocean of piss?

>>3195568
>>3204725
Honest crit doesn't happen in japan. Blunt criticism (which is all blunt to them because they don't get any of any degree) is considered exceptionally rude. Things are just swept under the rug. You don't like something you just stay quiet or politely maneuver yourself out of answering.
This is why they can have problems that fester for generations with everyone in silence and why companies are so slow to take any position on everything: it's all tedious deliberation as everyone dances around a subject until some vague consensus is formed and the big boss gives their implied stamp of approval.

This approach can be good for some things and bad for others. To every westerner looking in though all they see are people nervously shuffling about, unwilling to even think about voicing what they really think about anything.
Shit, 2ch/5ch must be a real release valve.

>>3204823
maybe it is if you are a feelings person but its required sometimes. otherwise the shit will just keep flowing until everything is ruined

>>3204823
Wow japs are a bunch of fucking pussies

>>3204823
reminder that this tard culture is so bad there that they even had a nuclear plant incident because of it. if they were saner it would never have happened

>>3204858
Oh I agree to an extent. Like I said it's good in someways, too restrictive and harmful for growth in others.
It's kind of hard to find a balance.
Thing is, when the japs do it "the other way" they achieve quite a bit in terms of decisive action.
However that "quite a bit" netted them 2 nukes in the face and ever since then they've decided supreme caution, in every respect, and careful thinking is the order of the day. Look at their history before 1945, going all the way back to the sino-japanese war, it's japan unrestrained and too carefree.
The samurai fears the samurai.
If they let loose again they will be destroyed.

>>3204994
but how did that insane politeness become part of their culture? as a non japanese im actually a bit bothered by it. like i watch some of those concert recordings from there and the performers say their equivalent of thank you probably a million times

>>3204725
The Coco before the chink shit would have screenshoted those posts on asacoco and used them as a joke to shit on herself, she did this many times.
You should understand she's been through a lot this last months, i don't blame her for something like this getting through her once.

>>3205336
don't worry. i was not talking about her at all, that was just something i noticed somewhere else

>>3204725
I think the inability comes from idol culture honestly. Most of Coco’s gachikoi see her as their girlfriend. And you obviously wouldn’t want to criticize your girlfriend right? So the vtuber gets a big head until they see a negative comment. But honestly maybe it’s just women

>>3205394
now that you mentioned it. is there someplace where i can read more about this "idol culture"? what i have seen is just way too crazy to accept without some kind of explanation

>>3205460
Go back

>>3205460
watch Youtube videos on it

>>3205282
They live in a society.
To avoid conflict and therefore chaos and to maintain social cohesion, nobody wants to step on anyone else's toes inadvertently. Hence the perpetual poritery dansu

>>3205659
back where? no one else will accept me and even here the jannys cant always handle me. only other places to go to are the other imageboards where no one gives a fuck because im their only poster

>>3183501
Alright, but get this, yeah? What if the dogmunchers are right just this once? Just because it came from a filthy animal doesn't make the fact that the reddit reviews long ago slid into an ocean of shit and are now chugging along the seabed.

>>3184780
why did you reply to yourself

>>3205988
>the fact that the reddit reviews long ago slid into an ocean of shit and are now chugging along the seabed.
Any less true*

>>3205336
Dude there's been multiple people that have had to deal with situations like that. Still no reason to play the victim like she did

>>3206044
Maybe she isn't playing the victim and just got tired? That shit wears you down; you gonna snap someday if people are on your shit all the time.

>>3181586
oh noes

>>3179139
>gets one comment saying that her meme reviews are kind of cringe
>goes on a Twitter tirade about being bullied by everyone
You can get the dragon out of the US, but you can't get the US out of the dragon.

>>3206667

>>3206667
Imagine being a self hating westerner

>>3206846
Westerner doesn't equal amerimutt retard

>>3206796
>fuck da haterzzzzz
>hey coco, the reddit reviews are getting kind of stale
>AHHHH IT HURTS!!! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ENJOY THINGS?
American woman, stay away from me-eee
American woman, mama let me be-ee

tfw when redditors say "yagoo's idol dream is dead! lolo" despite them being a great example how at its core Hololive sells the same product to a similar audience

>>3185513
Why did the chinese never attack Haachama the same way they attack Coco? Is it because she's American?

>>3183501
im not chinese but I will keep pretending to be chinese by posting lao gan ma chili sauce copypasta just to drive you crazy

But will this be enough to make her finally graduate? No more americ*n influence in Hololive.

>>3178309
Why is watching Coco suffer so satisfying. I just want to bully her over and over again.

>>3208484
They think haachama can't help it because they believe that she's actually retarded.
Remember these are the people that come to 4chins, read the rrats and actually believe them like seanogs.
Also Coco's american connection makes the zhangs seethe.

Imagine supporting a boring ass Reddit Review whose content has been repeated and recycled more than the spin cycle of your washing machine.

>SIMPS alert

>>3181736
Cocofags are one of the most pathetic, what do you expect?

>>3183501
I dont care about bat eating bugmen, it just coco content is progressively becoming worse. she could atleast just be full degenerate like based mito and utsuko, instead of this threading beetween two sides and miss both of her consoomers.

the reddit memes, isnt even memes at all. it just cringy almost facebook tier post

The smug act of Coco and her tards fall apart when she has to do this

>>3209762
>. she could atleast just be full degenerate like based mito and utsuko
Can't. New rules.
No more asacoco etc., allowed.

>>3182909
>>3183186
paper dragon? the fuck is that? what western fuck uses the term paper dragon? I don't even like this dragon bitch but holy fuck it's obvious these are zhangs.

>>3204868
The problem is, they're not. You'll still get fired if you do a shitty job, you just have to use context clues to figure out if the job you've done is shitty instead of being told so preemptively. The fact that no one criticizes you openly (at least normal people don't) doesn't give you a free license to suck, and Japanese people can actually be far more judgemental than Americans.
That's one of the things foreigners struggle with the most in Japan.

>>3211669
it's clearly a play on "paper tiger" ESL-kun

>>3212494
>uses chink slang
>ur ESL
You retarded?

>>3178309
This pretty much solidified my hatred for the reddit dragon. She's bottom tier at this point. Shit content, can't take criticism, throws pity parties to attract white knights that'll pat her on the back and tell her she's doing a good job. Coco and r/hololive in general is genuine brony tier autism. 8000 layers of meta humor, ardently defensive of their "culture", aggressively unfunny, run every joke into the ground, etc. If anyone is going to give vtubers a horrible image to outsiders, it'll be r/hololive and Coco's constant enabling of their unfunny bullshit.

>>3212043
Honestly, given all the pressure put on people by Japanese society I would never want to live there. I might want to visit Japan at some point, but that's about it.

>>3212625
It's almost as if they're baiting you on purpose.

>>3212743
Cool story, bro. See you next week for the meme review.

>>3212625
The term is famous and originated in china you absolute retard. So it is appropriate

>>3212866
Is this how cocofags cope?

>>3212866
NEXT MEME

>>3213118
Cope with what? I'm not the one yelling into the meaningless void of an anonymous image board because a random dragon VTuber isn't making the content I want. I don't really care if you feel differently, I just know in spite of you saying this you'll be back to watch her next week instead of just ignoring her entirely.

>>3213110
why the hell would I know what's famous in zhangland?

ZHANG

>>3213964
it got famous internationally after Mao met Kissinger...

One day, tatsunoko will realize that they're by far the most easily baited and asshurt fanbase in the history of vtubing.

But it won't be today.

>>3214346
Nah, most fanbases on here are super easy to bait. I don't think one stands out as particularly more prone to it than others.

>>3181736
That's right bugman. What's it like knowing that even Reddit is above you? TAIWAN NUMBER ONE!!

Are all of EN going to do a costume reveal today?

>>3215608
No, but they will througout the week.

>>3215682
Got it.

>>3214146
you wish something from china got famous, zhang.

>>3212494
>ESL-kun
>says the chinaman

INCOMING DICK SHOPS REPLACING THE MIC

>>3216687
I'd be excited but i don't really watch her.

Why can't Coco just take memes from whatever is the equivalent of reddit or 4chan over at Japan?

>>3213110
Do they teach Chinese slang in English schools, Mr. Gonatan Smeet?

>>3212043
I feel like this is something mostly american westerners in japan would struggle with. American culture and jap culture is night and day diffirent

>>3214146
The term is still antiquated you socially inept autists. Holy fucking shit the fucking people on this board are something else.

>>3218981
Literally politics class stuff

>>3219430
>American education

>>3220412
Go outside

>>3211669
The only reason i know it is because i watch ADVChina and all associated channels, seems like a fairly common term, not limited to the wumao.

>>3225524
To clarify, by fairly common i mean fairly common when dealing with China, never heard it outside of that context.