/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Oh nyo

Michael cat doesn't seem to be bleeding views and superchat income like Kson is.
What went wrong?

>>31721501
Full blown whore and not in the hololive collab box anymore

>>31721425
outside of ironmouse and people that watch her thinking they're helping some bedridden cripple, the other vshojo members are bleeding viewership, vshojo is a sinking ship.

>>31721501
Miguel got kicked out so she had no choice
Kekson used the holofan pity and brought them to her indie channel only to spit on them by joining another corpo
She was also a nobody without leech streams and now that the dream of her coming back to hololive is dead, most tatsunokeks left

incoming tatsucucks to tell us that we're chinks and zhangs

>>31721501
Kson needs to stop streaming on YT and stream more on Twitch, she gets far more viewers there than on YT

>>31721796
Oh it's a given after all it's literally their ONLY defense they've ever had

>>31721425
>>31721501
And yet she is still making more money than a bunch of holos. I guess hololive is dead after all.

>>31721868
Looking at the trends and graphs....not for much longer.

>>31721717
But they arent?

She was successful even though she was an indie vtuber because she was one of the few streamers who had contact with hololive.

>>31721425
>$3k for 3 hours work
I'm sure she's crying.

>>31721425
I genuinely have no ill will towards kson and would watch her more, but it's hard to track her down, her streams are inconsistent, and I don't care about her current collab circle

>>31721425
No, it's just the struggle of a real indie vtuber

>kson 2k ccv, 5k likes
>subaru ~30k ccv, 11k likes
???

>>31721425

>>31721717
>Bleeding viewership
Vei and Pink Cat still consistently hit 9-11k viewers when they stream. The other members have always averaged between 3-5k viewers

Kiryu Coco was crazy wacky fun.
Kson is boring.

>>31721907
You fags have been saying this since she quit.

>>31721868
[citation needed]

>>31722075
Chad Vox stays mogging vshitjo and all the holo jp whores. I kneel milord

>>31721868
You're sorely underestimating how much merch is more profitable, there's a reason Kson ended up joining a corpo to work on her merch instead of relying on just superchats.

>>31722154
She made most of that money as indie retardchama

>>31721796
>>31721847
Honestly since the taiwan yab they have been completly insufferable
I'm glad that kson joining vshojo finally made them quiet down a bit

>>31722235
Yes, as an indie after she quit Holo.

>>31722291
Why are you parroting his words anon? you his goon or something?

>>31722173
The monthly sc ranking.

>>31722224
You were talking about SC, and now you're backtracking to merch, fuck off.

>>31722374
Learn english.

>>31721501
I don't think she was ever that popular before she announced her graduation. I used to compare her live viewer numbers, and they were below average holo numbers. What she did have was a few simps with deep pockets. I guess they left.

>>31721425
only 3k usd, oh no... she probably starving right now

>>31721501
>What went wrong?
Picrel. She talked big but in the end she showed her fans, especially what tatsunokos remained, that she's just full of shit and has no integrity. So they left.

>>31721868
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0313/44/1661092235830532.png
Cope. This isn't even counting the merch that the JPs make on their own with their lives, 3Ds, anniversaries and birthdays.
Keksonkeks acting like SC is the end all be all kek.

>>31721425
What did she expect? Holofags hate other corpos, her joining Vshojo means Holofags will 100% drop her ass and might even become her antis

>>31721501
If there was ever a chance that Cover would offer for her to return, she'd take it while Kson would absolutely refuse to.

>>31722950
>make thread shitposting saying that her SC is low
>n-no sc doesn't matter... m-my holos aren't losing to her
Lol.

>>31722943
Nice photoshop holobrony
Coco never said this

>>31723210
Cope.

Why can't you shitskins stay in your containment thread?

>>31721425
I mean.. who the fuck watches Kson for singing except for her fanatics?8sgpgd

>>31722542
You're being sarcastic but, taking into consideration the YT cut and the average costs for a living in Japan, you're not that far off.

>>31723127
>no counterargument
I accept your concession. Keep coping and seething keksonkek.

>>31721501
Michael cat basically existed in her own bubble even when she was a green necromancer. She did collabs sometimes but the meat of her content was solo. She can stand on her own either as an indie or in any corpo that lets her do her thing. Coco interacted a lot with other people and was more reliant on them than she realized. The moment she no longer had access to the hololive community her content took a huge hit.

>>31721425
T A L E N T
F R E E D O M

>>31721425
>youtube

>>31721717
Nyanners gets 10k viewers still
Vei gets 15-20k
Mouse is at 1.3mil subs and getting 15k viewers
Nazuna is doing good
Kson is doing better on twitch then on youtube

>>31721868
Which? Kaela? Anya? Those are generally seen as the runts and they both do way better than that. Which bunch of holos fail to get 2k? The holostars members? Because those are Tempus numbers, that's how bad she is.

>>31722397
concession accepted

>>31721501
Coco was always majorly buffed by being a part of Hololive because she was a strong accent of a person there as the exotic bold foreigner girl (who is also still relatable as she's Japanese too), by herself she doesn't actually stick out as much because it's not like she's constantly around more "normal" Japanese women on-screen all the time anymore to contrast.

Also, her content isn't really all that interesting, all that muh creative freedom talk amounted to nothing we hadn't seen before. There is only so much you can do with a l2d avatar - as it turns out, it's very very little that wasn't already explored somewhere/how.

>>31723589
>Holos above Kson last month in the sc ranking
Marine: 94k
Chloe: 54k
Pekora: 53k
Kiara: 52k
Koyori: 40k
Miko: 39k
Subaru: 38k
>Kson: 37k

I guess the rest that were under her are runts after all.

>>31721425
Enjoy free talent, Kekson

>>31721501
Kekson has no talent at all
She's nothing without Hololive
Just an old women misunderstands her ability

>>31723918
>last month

>>31721425
>>31721501
>numbermonkeys reveal they literally never looked Kson's numbers before they started seething last month

>>31724504
Wow look at this one, only 1300 viewers, she can't last much longer like this

>>31721868
REKT

>>31721907
uhhh numberbros? she had 500 viewers a year ago? how is she still going? wtf

>>31722093
Unironically watch Vox if you want the closest thing to pre-Taiwan Coco.

>>31722950
nnumberexpert, this stream only made 78 dollars in november a year ago, how long is it supposed to take for her career to end?

>>31724035
>>31724386
>ke...Kekson
They really think they are part of vt's Cool Guys for using buzzwords.
Lmao

>>31722943
Stream where that was said? Oh right, it never happened.

>>31723706
>Nyan and Mousey are more popular than 75% of Hololive
OH NO NO HOLOBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>31723371
Kson's first merch had a signed postcard for buying the whole pack and she had to sign about 3000 of them. She also literally just had her own merch store.

>>31725442
It is something she said but Taishi's translation left out nuance, as speed-translating often does. It was also said by Coco, who is a Hololive-owned property and quite obviously never going to join any other group. The last line actually translates to something like "I'm not the kind of woman who works under other people, I'd rather be on top" which was the first of many hints she dropped (in Japanese) that she was considering making her own vtuber group. Nobody translated any of those though so seething about VShojo is a purely EOP phenomenon.

>>31723210
>>31725442
you are worsening her case, she did say that and as a former tatsunoko I find it more and more difficult to follow her content when she keeps talking about dick and vshojo on twitch while stream at 6am on YT

>>31726781
Even that contains some interpretation. Most of the graduation period statements, were very vague and carefully worded, so you can basically interpret anything from them, and even more in the context of her saying it as Coco, a hololive property and the whole hololive-happy-family-image

>>31721501
miguel still somehow managed to make some of her unicorn give her second chance and she knows her place still pandering to them while kson is boring without hololive and she probably got cocky thinking people would follow her blindly anywhere she goes, got hit by reality then she doing all those mental gymnastic to her fans that "akshually vshojo is not company thus i basically still indie"

>>31726986
Sure thing Zhang

>>31725423
Clitson

>>31721425
Taiwan is the real China. Say it, you can't.

>>31727374
>hating twitch and whore-like content makes me a zhang
It breaks my heart that the new fans are like this

Over two years later and this bitch is still as controversial as ever on the 4chens.

>>31724386
wtf does Amelia have to do with this post?

>>31724386
>Just an old women misunderstands her ability
Nice English.
>>31727096
She did make it clear in past and future comments that she dislikes corporate micromanagement so I think that particular comment was genuine. I agree overall though that it is retarded to get worked up over anything Coco said during those days. The seething SEAfriends aren't aware of that though.

>>31721425
retard checking in:
does this mean she made 2.8k$ during 1 stream or is that over a long period of time?

>>31729126
one stream

>>31722089
>Vei
I still don't get the appeal. She's so boring and really relies on her sexual tone to carry her.

>>31722224
I thought Vshojo takes a larger cut of the merch sales than Hololive, though?

>>31721425

>>31723560
>Vei gets 15-20k
kek she was averaging 7k on Minecraft yesterday but then his boyfriend gave her some help

>>31729303
>I thought Vshojo takes a larger cut of the merch sales than Hololive, though?
Nobody knows, but it's irrelevant anyway because she didn't join VShojo to make money.

>>31729303
vshojo takes cut from merch they help to make, if chuuba does it herself there's no cut, also as you are under vshojo, they can make merch to sell in their store, mostly commemorative/group things, then they take cut, most likely bigger one, in short
vshojo member does merch herself - no cut
vshojo member makes merch with help of gunrun and co. - small cut for gunrun and co. makes merch using vshojo member ip - bigger/even cut for gunrun

>>31721425
Total channel revenue ~$1m...I think she's doing just fine...

>>31729498
also all the merch she made so far is 100% hers
the only vshojo affiliated merch is the kson+nazuna t-shirt

>>31727591
It's literally the only thing they can say. It's their attempt to have a universal counter. It's pretty much IKDF screaming ZHANG ZHANG ZHANG
It's funnny that /ijdf/ doesn't even go for the usual expected copes in that thread.

>>31729628
Actually 1 million dollars solo plus tens of thousands per month from Youtube and Mildom is bad, because she doesn't have the blue dorito now.

>>31721425
I'm busy at work when she streams.

>>31721717

>>31727591
Isn't it a wild thing to imagine that she is more entertaining when she isn't constantly talking about her pussy, dicks, or always reminding her viewers that her swimsuit skin shows underboob?

>>31732283
She has not talked about her pussy nearly enough, she hasn't even described what it looks like yet.

>>31721425
>Regrets every day joining Vshojo and wishes she was with her friends in VOMS
Family first is her way of coping, now she has to babysit a mentally handicapped menhera retard who would break NDAs and dox her coworkers without a second though
She brought it upon herself

>>31732642
she streamed with DMJ like 2 days ago

>>31721425
She should ditch her japanese viewers and focus on her EN audience and on streaming on twitch

I bet someone is gonna screenshot this thread and send it to kson

when are numberfags gonna grow up and realize they're cringe

youtube isn't her main platform anymore by her own words

>>31732926
One of the twitter accounts will do it.

tbqh kekson should have remained until january 2022.

reminder that she's twitch partner now. Of course there is no streaming exclusivity anymore but slowly kson will move away from youtube and make twitch her main squeeze so she can show off her tits like a regular old twitch whore and not worry about being banned.

>>31733012
Can you type that again but in English?

>>31733241
aku benci jalang ini

It's always funny to see salty ksonschizo.
They're literally legit retarded or high on glue or something.
Lol

>>31732943
When they stop being right.

>>31734320
Anon Youtube literally doesn't even show real numbers.

>>31734752
I'm just hoping some anon gets a job in YouTube, climbs up the hierarchy to a point he has access to the actual numbers, then leak them to his fellow anon numberfags, not just for vtubing but youtube streaming in general, as well as the true views/likes/dislikes numbers on vods.
Surely there must be an anon schizo enough yet conventionally competent enough to pull this off right?

>>31723210
yikes

>>31729303
Vei has the benefit of attaching herself to Sodapoppin and they have good chemistry both being retarded degens so her viewership will never drop.

>>31721425
I’m surprised she has so little paypigs. I guess only 3 to 4 oil tycoons are responsible for making her the most superchatted vtuber instead of thousands of less wealthier paypigs.

>>31721425
yikes

She willingly quit her job as the highest paid vtuber and told everyone that she doesn't care about money and that there are more important things like having fun and you retards still numberfag her.

I remember when kson was supposed to be reclining and close to finished many months ago because she had sub 1k viewers and little super chats on some streams. What happened antibros?

>>31721787
tasty~~

>>31721501
she changed
I used to watch her from time to time after her graduation, and a bunch of the streams were fun, but there was definitely something missing where she wasn't quite what she was as coco
but over time, she's gradually gotten less interesting, particularly her topical streams and meme reviews which are unwatchable now
and through it all, it really feels like she misses being able to collab with holos, replacing them with vshojo is not the answer to that

>>31740965
She is still the same girl. You're just a slave to Hololive brand.

>>31722542
Far less than half of that will actually arrive at her

>>31740965
>meme reviews which are unwatchable now
Every single Kson meme review has been better than the best Hololive one. She actually shows funny stuff since she doesn't have to show shitty redditor tier lists. Also she's only done like 3 this year so I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
>>31743952
She gets 70%

i only watched the meme reviews to suffer

>>31725068
This but unironically.

>>31744740
That was a year ago and her views went up since then

>>31723706
Why do Vshojofags put much value on subs like they are a metric of how popular they really are? Matsuri and Kiara are in the million sub club despite being on the shitters most of the time, nevermind someone like Kizuna Ai who would get mogged by most people on this list despite being 3 mil subs(which she only reached by announcing indefinite hiatus btw).

>>31745632
Because they got nothing left... Oh wait they got this

She spent all that time talking as though she was going to do something to really put indies on the map and help them out, sounding like she was going to provide some sort of consultancy or service only to give up because it was too hard to be an indie and she got scammed. I'd say vshojo was a mistake but it's gotten a ton of tourist eyes on her, just look at her threads now it's all just vsj fans

>>31722075
>be Polka
>be thicc
>be massive unity chad
>reap rewards
I'm happy for the funny fennec.