/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31651337
based

>>31651337
Worsen it. Seeing insufferably autistic women still able to succeed really makes it clear how shafted men are in modern neoliberal society. And then they have the gall to imply self improvement matters worth a damn.

>>31651337
Both. They proved to me that western women are beyond saving. The only ones that can act professional are asian women.

>>31651337
>>31651337
Hololive and NijiJP vtubers healed me, Vshojo and NijiEN worsen it

They make me hate 3d women more because they will never be as perfect as 2d.

>>31651337
>Mysoginist = gay
Woman stupidity is natural.

Is not natural putting woman in serious political works. A thing that create so many mysoginist

>>31651337
Both?
>i understand why men gosling over these girls
>they don't have to do very much at all to secure very solid income. meanwhile a lot of boys in the field are fed scraps.

>>31651337
I wasn't really a misogynist to begin with. But I'd say they're pretty good at making men who don't really interact with women often feel less radically different from them. It shatters the illusion that there's some massive immutable barrier between the sexes.

bump

>>31651337
I don’t hate women but I do think it’s making me more autistic.

>>31655305
Based.

>>31651337
I find myself growing more frustrated by the knowledge: what I like and enjoy is considered cute, desirable, and profitable but only if a woman does it. I don't think my interests are wrong, nor do I think women are wrong for enjoying my interests. I just feel slighted. Is that misogynistic? I'm upset women can more easily profit off my interests. I tried streaming for a year, built two vtuber models from scratch (they were goofy but they had some nice elements to them, they were far from bad since I took weeks to make them), I even branched into all sorts of niche interests; yet nothing came out of it. Meanwhile I saw women debut and already have 20x my popularity. Even if 90% of them were bots, horny indian men, and what have you; by sheer virtue of them being women did they get a better start.

Do women experience more unique issues compared to men when they stream? Probably. A woman mentioning a lover is an extreme debuff, while a guy can get away with having a lover no big debuff. But the counterpoint is that the "debuff" is really just them losing the bonus they got as a woman. Additionally, a woman has to deal with goslings. You'll be subjected to conform to a goslings' skewed worldview and any small deviance from that will net you an anti at best or an actual stalker at worst. But how common are goslings like that? Most of them will just shift their worldviews to accommodate you while dropping hundreds to thousands of dollars per month.

So in the end, I don't know. I find myself constantly shifting between understanding and frustration. I think if everything is tallied, men and women have it the same when it comes to vtubing. It's just that women are given massive buffs that could fall out from under them at any time and put them in a position worst than what a man is at.

>>31651337
>Love women
>Hate whores

Simple as

>>31656459
Women live on easy mode, simple as that

>>31656804
To dilute what I said, I guess my point is that men live on normal mode and women live on easy mode. Unfortunately there's Pokémon Gen 1 bugs in the code, and easy mode has logic breaking issues that'll make it jump up to hard more for a whole slew of reasons. Normal mode has far fewer of these bugs, but the ones that do exist are well known and easy to avoid.

>>31651337
They did not change my low opinion of women in the slightest. Take for example Pekora. No matter how cute and funny Pekora is her roommate is not Pekora and Pekora is not her roommate. There may be some overlap between the two but that does not mean they're the same entity, therefore my opinion of Pekora's roommate would be the same as any other woman.

>>31656804
the "easy mode" only exists in gringoland. everyone who seriously believes in its propaganda message deserves to perish.

>>31651337
Chuubas show me that women can infact be likeable if they want to but most of them if not all choose to be insufferable acidic whores.

>>31655678
Dealing with women stupidity was aways a male duty, but since then females abandoned everything that is sacred thus any self respecting man shouldn't put up with their bullshit anymore
So no, it's not gay

>>31656544
all vtubers have a bf
The more you accept that, the less problems you will have when watching vtubers

>>31651337
Vtubers made me realise women could be funny and entertaining
However they also made me realise they are only tolerable when forced under strict moral codes and are not allowed to hold express their opinions on anything important.

>>31651337
Worsen it. Look at Gura, does bare minimum and keeps swimming in cash.

>>31651337
It worsened and cured my misogyny. When women aren't acting like sluts they can actually be cute and adorable. But it made me realize women are instinctually whores, and it takes an oppressive authority to set them straight. It also confirmed my bias that women aren't as funny compared to men, the only time my oshi makes me laugh is when she does something so stupid. Also women are so goddamn retarded and emotional

Vtubers make it worse. I can deal with thots who have their tindr set to only men over 6 foot 5 (only 500 men in North America are over 7 feet tall) with 100k+ salaries while they look like a trashbag. But chicks who are disingenuous for a living AND have a fanbase of dedicated orbiters defending their fakeness really annoy me. I can watch smalltubers because they are so terrible/their lying tendencies just seem silly since they're irrelevant. But once you have chicks pulling 100k spouting bullshit you get annoyed that there are so many weak men in the world.

I don't hate women, I hate simps. but I also hate women

>>31651337
Pic related actually makes me hate them even more.

>>31655148
>woman is literally retarded and has no redeeming qualities
>EDUCATE YOURSELF CHUD
I laff everytiem

>>31655693
>scraps
Depends on what they're willing to do Vox Akuma literally btfo'd Gura and earns about 4 times as much as her income wise even with his debuffs after the great chinese war.

>>31657828
What Pomu has to do with it?

>>31657167
They literally have laws which jail men for thoughtcrimes in countries like China, Mexico and India, easymode is global. It's just in India the rape gangs of street shitters kind of balance things out.

>>31651337
I was never misogynist, but I was pretty much resigned to dying alone or waiting for the Waifubot 6000. Listening to cute girls all day really made me want to experience some of that IRL and I've been going to the gym, taking care of my appearance more, and striving to be less of an autistic loner as a result.

>>31655305
Based yellow fever chad

>>31651337
never had one to begin with

>>31657931
ESL.

>>31651337
Before VTube I was starting to believe the "women just can't be funny" thing. But Gura, Miko and some others are absolutely hilarious.

Makes you wonder how real life female "comedians" like Lena Dunham and Sarah Silverman got so big.

>>31658185
No u

>>31658319
boomer humor + lots of momentum that they fail upwards

>>31657974
>They literally have laws which jail men for thoughtcrimes in countries like China, Mexico and India
yes and?
rights were made for women because they don't have the strength of a man.
However, I am against women getting into politics for obvious reasons.

>>31657919
Vox is 1 in a billion. Blesses with good looks and good voice.

>>31651337
No, I'm convinced that vtubers are 3dpd infiltrating 2d space.

>>31655305

>>31651337
Vtubing confirmed that only a small minority of women can be entertaining, and that men are simply better at everything.
Vtubing confirmed that women have an unfair advantage because all they need is a cute avatar and they're set.
Vtubing made it more obvious that money and marketing beats hard work and talent every time.
Vtubing made me hate men because I got to witness unicorn and simp behavior up close.

as i woman i think you're all trashy incels

>>31651337
It cured my dislike for fox girls.

>>31659113
t. woman

My oshi is a human being.
She’s much better than me in certain aspects and I’m much better than her at other aspects.
Namely she can’t cook for shit and gets nausea from playing any first-person game.
We’re different but we just deal with the differences.
The people I chat with in her community are pretty nice.
They comprise of everything from artists who make some great animations, to people who are part of US Army EOD.

>>31658319
>Before VTube I was starting to believe the "women just can't be funny" thing. But Gura, Miko and some others are absolutely hilarious.
Agree on that.
>Makes you wonder how real life female "comedians" like Lena Dunham and Sarah Silverman got so big.
They are jewish activists, that's why. In America being a jew is basically playing game on easy mode, and if you're a woman nowadays, it gets even better.

>>31659113
ok luxiem sister

>>31655148
>TFW stem degree got me a shit job with shit pay and loans to pay off
>Youtubers make shit tons more money than me
>ImPrOvE YoUrSeLF
Yeah fuck me for listening to my elders, studying, going to university and picking the practical things that need tobe done instead of trying to be entertaining.

It was bad enough seeing atheltes salaries, now even anime girls talk down to you.

>>31651337
I just started hating SEA"people" more

>>31659479
the world needs drones like us, you can take solace in that
remember to send an akasupa to your oshi in their next stream. they'll read it on sunday for sure!

>>31655148
if you saw the state of HR department, it's only woman hiring woman

>>31656977
I wonder how many of them realize this. Unicorns and gachikoi don't seem to notice the difference between who they are on/off camera, so I'm curious how the vtubers respond.
>Imposter syndrome
>Full delusions where you think love of the character translates to love of you
>Social autism where you think acting like an anime girl IRL will make people like you more
>Depression as IRL they aren't hyper popular people with legions of guys wanting to marry them.

There are so many ways it could manifest.

It just reminded me how lonely I am and why I had to give up on women in the first place.

>>31659738
this post gave me PTSD
it doesn't help when even the guys make it a hugbox to join their circle too

>>31659801
this isn't remotely exclusive to vtubers though, this goes for anyone who gets to curate an image for themselves which is basically something we all do since we engage with different personas of ourselves
like people who treat you as if you're a god of something when in reality you're not even in the top percentiles in the field, but those people don't know any better because you're basically their only exposure

>>31659738
Some guy sent 100 job aplications as a male and 100 identical job aplication as a female
>He got returns 5 times more as a female
>Media and Academia still claim females are getting the short stick

>>31659162
>tits or gtfo

the rule of internet will never go away

>>31659738
>>31660186
Unironically true. HR and media related jobs are strongly biased towards women in many cases, unless it's strictly technical work (like being electrician, programmer, etc.)

>>31651337
They taught me that women can be likeable as long as there is some oversight and rules governing their actions. So, maybe they refined it, they didn't 'cure' it as though misogyny is some disease rather than the correct mindset.

>>31655305
>Western men are depressed for the reasons explained by Anon in this thread
>Western women are depressed due to a lack of fulfillment of spiritual needs as the consequence of the chase for materialism

Not gonna make it.

>>31659196
>>31659363
How does it feel to have a boring, talentless oshi?

>>31651337
Makes me realize how shit the average woman is
The absolute BOTTOM requirements of being a decent human being and it's seen as the coming of christ in a vtuber girl
Because our expectations of women are so low that even minimal effort makes the vtuber girl look like a SAINT compared to the average woman
So most women are beyond saving and trash but some women are okay and good
it is what it is

>>31658689
>rights were made for women because they don't have the strength of a man.
Yeah retard and guess what happens if you fuck with a woman?
Her family, her partners family and her friends will FUCK YOU UP.
Providing a pretty powerful incentive to not fuck with women
Rape a woman in a country where rape is legal somehow ? The family members will fucking murder you
Not saying that's a bad thing, but to say women are these poor defenseless creatures because THEY physically cant defend themselves is absurd.

VTubers made me admit women could be funny, but it also made me realize how incredibly lazy they are.

>>31651337
They changed my view from "women can't be funny" to "women can't be intentionally funny"
For example Pekora is one of the funniest streamers I've ever watched, but most if not all of her best moments are because it seems like the fucking demon of comedic timing cursed her or something.

>>31659479
>Be plumber, electrician, water purifier, builder, sewage worker, binman, farmer etc
>Be the ONLY reason society functions at all
>Be treated like fucking trash and disposable
>Dont be bitter we pay useless pieces of shit millions of dollars because they are famous, and that if all celebrities died tomorrow absolutely nothing would change, in fact it would probably be improvement vs
>if all the aforementioned workers died tomorrow the world would collapse into anarchy and chaos and billions would die of starvation and such

The world is fucked.

>>31663488
not quite, but almost
>>31663566
This

Nice gets though lads

>>31663567
I unironically want to see how economic collapse will affect the VTuber industry and the entertainment industry in general. The fact that the Japanese economy isn't collapsed yet is baffling me. Either the expert forecast is dead wrong or they underestimate what the economic collapse looks like.

>>31651337
Vshojo's existence doesn't help, that's for sure

>>31651337
>EN = Worst
>JP = Better
the only real answer

>>31651337
Worsen it. I only watch Tempus now (besides male non vtuber streamers).

>>31657600
Dangerously based and redpilled.

>>31651337
Believe it or not, vtubers made me less misogynistic. Then, /vt/ made me realize I was never actually that misogynistic in the first place.

As far as I care, if it’s something that would still be a dick move if a guy did it, it’s a yab. If not, it’s a nothingburger. Some of you should try it, it would actually make you feel better.

>>31664260
Well if things actually hit the fan for real and everything fucks up hard. No one will have money to give money to streamers and content creators. Will be hard enough trying to stay alive day by day. fuck entertainment

Maybe it made it a bit better. It feels like being with a girl could be fun. But I know at least part of it is just an image, and I'll always have an inherent distrust of humans to the point that I would never make myself vulnerable like that. It's not just limited to women.

>>31664260
>Still waiting for my Breeding Visa
Tick Tock Japan Tick Tock

>>31661238
U have a luxiem oshi. They're devoid of talent relative to every vtuber wave before them.
Shu is smarter than the average vtuber and ike can do video edits. That's all they have

>>31651337
I'm not a misogynist, I just really fucking hate feminism.

>>31651337
i was never really misogynistic or hated women to begin with

>>31651337
>misogynist mindset

I never had one, because I was loved as a child and interacted with girls my age and figured that they fart just as much as we do and that's kinda based.

If you love your mom you shouldn't hate women. If your mom was a bitch then I can kinda understand where you're coming from, but you gotta see it's a bit weird.

>>31667234
My mom loved me too much, especially after my dad died in a car crash. She even touched my peepee when I was 9yo. Hated women irrationally ever since.

>>31651337
Vtubers proved to me that women are more enjoyable when a strict code of conduct restricts what they can say and do.

I can't blame women for the things simps are enabling, it's a smart move on their part.

>>31667751
Let me guess, you're from a Nordic country, right?

>>31651337
Sometimes I think it helps it a little bit, then I see girls like Marine, Noel, Mel etc and it gets worse. Even my Niji oshi Pomu is a camwhore.
Korone is nice though. I like Korone

>>31651337
for a while it was making me less misogynist and then tempus came out and i realized how fucking horribly unentertaining and lazy and devoid of passion women are and that i had been tricking myself into thinking i was enjoying watching them for months and what a waste of time it was. so that absolutely made it worse. but thank god tempus isn't gay or british. if they had been gay and british like nijimales i'd still be stuck watching the women.

Chuubas showed me that without the corpo pimp hand they'll run wild with their whorish tendencies, get addicted to methamphetamine, then end up dead in a ditch after a customer gets too handsy

>>31659801
The irl vs Vtuber bang wagon trend is forced cope. All their fans loving the character and saying how cute they are, but never at 'them'. There in lies the problem, so they post irl breast photos or selfies to slake their none existent self-esteem with uptoots.

>>31659479

This is the sort of comment I hope to see under their youtube videos. Where do they get off on telling YOU to improve yourself. They're fucking anime girls, their only purpose is entertainment, and they are horrible at their job if they insult their audience. Paying members who are actual productive parts of society, unlike them.

>>31660186
that's just the hr field, don't apply that generally. There's lots of gender bias depending on field both ways.

>>31663424
This is true in third-world/rural parts. First worlders input on this?
>t. Third-worlder

>>31651337
They made me respect women less, looks like they have a natural flaw and absolutely must have a boyfriend no matter what, even if it screws your carrer looks like not sucking cock is a giant sacifice for them and before vtubing I had no Idea this was so rare, they portray themselves as not that interested in men but they can't be happy without a man like I thought they could.

>>31651337
It made me realize how denerated 3D women have become when juxtaposed next to the perfection of playing a 2D character on stream. I'm sure Pekora is a basic bitch in real life but when she plays the character she actually becomes likable which is an amazing feat for a woman.

>>31666967
The only bit of Luxiem I've seen was the teaser back in December. Seems like you know a lot more about them than I do, which leads to the question; Why are you so pissy about it?

>>31651337
Never hated women It's dumb to hate nature. A woman can't help doing woman things.

No, I still think that women fucking suck at video games , in fact vtubing reforced my opinion on this

It's amazing how anons think these vtubers draining their money and attention actually give a shit about them
>t-they're not like real women!!!

>>31664260
Japan has been the lead in automation forever. Something like 70% of their toilets flush themselves.
Self driving cars, roombas, are just the beginning. Robots will serve them coffee and take care of their health in 20 years tops.

>>31678415
Of course they're not anon. I can't smell them.

>>31651337
They reconfirmed everything I already knew. Women are only good when tardwrangled by men.