/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3143183
>Fuwa Minato
God damn combo breaker! So close to.

>>3143183
Nene stacks in 3D now, congratulations.

>>3143259
OMAERA NO KOTO
SUKI DAKEDO

Today numbers

>>3143183
Context
3.Mori - Birthday , EP Released
4.Nene - 3D debut
6.Miko - 1M Subscribers
7.Korone - 2 year Anniversary
8. Kanata - Birthday
10. Lamy - ??? idk

>>3143905
Coping KFP hands wrote this post

>>3143183
and the non holo's?

>>3143905
70k is normal for Lamy
Between 80k~90k is normal for Marine
Over 100k is normal for Coco and Rushia
Also this month was Minato´s birthday too

>>3143864
Nice numbers you got there, farm raised?

>>3143959
Shaking with flop sweat constantly searching empty pockets.
>Today I will remind them.
That KFPtard was such a faggot, probably killed himself by now.

>>3143183
April superchat numbers

HoloJP
>Rushia: $137,737
>Coco: $133,779
>Nene: $102,631
>Marine: $92,878
>Miko: $72,974
>Korone: $72,934
>Kanata: $72,660
>Lamy: $70,010
>Pekora: $67,023
>Flare: $61,231
>Okayu: $61,159
>Noel: $59,455
>Ayame: $49,264
>Suisei: $41,394
>Watame: $41,159
>Aqua: $40,594
>Subaru: $39,249
>Towa: $36,065
>Matsuri: $21,896
>Botan: $19,991
>Aki: $19,644
>Luna: $17,989
>Shion: $17,142
>Fubuki: $17,006
>Haato: $16,585
>Mio: $10,446
>Roboco: $9,898
>Azki: $7,464
>Polka: $7,314
>Sora: $6,344
>Choco: $5,602
>Mel: $2,115

HoloEN
>Calliope: $122,994
>Kiara: $59,718
>Gura: $53,058
>Amelia: $34,572
>Ina'nis: $17,653

HoloID
>Ollie: $19,174
>Reine: $8,888
>Iofi: $6,049
>Risu: $4,149
>Moona: $3,558
>Anya: $3,513

HoloStars
>Astel: $10,343
>Temma: $7,353
>Roberu: $6,694
>Aruran: $5,706
>Rikka: $5,256
>Oga: $4,866
>Izuru: $3,632

>>3143864
>gura with 30k+ viewer
Tf happened?

>>3145552
Newgrounds game

At least this numberfag is respectable, just posting numbers and not openly sperging for his oshi.

>>3145414
>HoloEN
>>Calliope: $122,994

If Cover can find five musicians that produce theyre own songs for VSingers, they'll make a killing

>>3143995
this is a holo board. They don't care about vtubers only hololive.

>>3145552
She should keep doing it

>>3143995
Post them yourself

>>3145767
When is this VSinger even coming out anyway? Did they not find anyone suitable? They announced auditions back in November and nothing so far

>>3145210
why so mad little pig?

>>3143183
Miko is the best rags to riches story in the industry.

>>3143183

Are those numbers real?

As far I as know, YouTube only publish 3 decimals

>>3145414
>Mel: $2,115
Why is life so cruel to the Banpire?

>>3145996
maybe there is more than one chuuba, maybe they will debut with an original song and that takes time to produce, or maybe they are waiting for NijiEN´s debut to steal the hype. So many possibilities

>>3145996
VSingers and NijiEN are locked in a game of chicken.

>>3146277
Don't worry, she makes way more money off her other account than Hololive.

>>3145414
>Temma, the least subscribed person in Hololive, makes more money than Sora and Polka
>Luna and Aki make more money than Fubuki and Ina
I don't understand numbers.

>>3146179
Mad about what exactly? It was a joke about the numbers being harvested like vegetables. How are you so sensitive?

>>3145996
For Holos there's a 4-5 month delay between the end of auditions and the debut, so we'll hear something about it either this month or next month.

>>3145414
I will never understand how does this all work. Like Polka is poplar and she is so low while Nene is that high, pekora that low too.
IU can kind of understand that Kiara makes so much because KFP niggers are just that autistic and Gura makes that little because its mostly tourists and underages.... But there is so much shit that just doesn't make sense...

>>3147967
so its not crazy to assume that it could be a complete gen of Vsingers?

>>3147967
What happens after talents are choosen anyway? Since chosens ones have quit their old channels/jobs, does Cover pays them during this time? Do they learn about vtubing for holo for 5 months?

>>3147996
you have to take in consideration a lot of things like birthdays, anniversaries, milestones celebrations, new outfit streams, 3D debuts, beating "hard games", etc.

Gura is singing in two hours, and that should make it into the numberfagging category.

>>3147822
To be fair, Temma's birthday was in April. But he seems to have a loyal fanbase.

>>3146179
At what?

>>3147822
Ina never reads superchats. At most she’ll comment on some randomly throughout the stream.

>>3148028
All depends on how many good applicants they had. They said they were looking for one, but might take more if they're good enough.
>>3148056
I don't think any of the holos have ever given full details about that. From the stuff from Gen 5 and the ENs, we know they're introduced to each other very early on so they can become friendly with each other. Otherwise all we know is they give design guidelines to the artist and work with them for their characters.
They probably get a basic salary from Cover during this period, but from what Coco and PPT have said it's a joke and really not something you can live on.

>>3148028
Would cost way too much money.
Vsinger being AZKi like means they have to have a production team constantly pumping out music for each one.

>>3147996
Gura likely has the most paid members out of EN, but you cannot see those numbers.

>>3148359
didnt thought about that, seems that producing vsingers is more expensive than normal chuubas

>>3148301
Then how are you supposed tu sustain yourself of half year? Many of those girls are too young and/or inexperienced to get a proper work. I dont believe Cover would force them to work at register.

>>3148359
I think the best thing they could do is bring someone like Calli or Suisei

Is Vsinger En or Jp?

>>3148301
they were talking about the base salary as a working vtuber, while they waited to get monetized. What they get paid before starting is a different value.

>>3147996
>I will never understand how does this all work. Like Polka is poplar and she is so low while Nene is that high, pekora that low too.
Typically, it's because they don't read superchats, don't play the GFE game or a combination of the two.

>>3148731
They wanted people fluent in english. But nothing stops them from being as fluent in jp as well, its probably an advantage.

>>3148397
Miko has 10k members and 1000k subs. That means Gura has 25k members since her subs are at 2500k.

>>3143864
No VOD views cope for today.

>>3148875
Anonchama... You are making me upset.

>>3148931
Why? Miko's numbers are very good and she is doing well for herself despite being a goofball baby.

>>3148931
Why do you hate Miko?

>>3149014
Anon, you might be tired so let me explain: viewers and subscribers doesn't mean much want to figure out how much money someone is making.

>>3149030
She hates people of color and is an anti-semite.

>>3147822
>I don't understand numbers.
They gist is that quality sometimes trumps quantity.

>>3147996
Gura....
>low streamtime
>take a day off / being lazy
>disable superchat when reading start
>a lot of unmonetized streams

her average donation numbers are not 'little"

>>3148875
You cannot predict members directly by subs. We only know Gura likely has a lot.

>>3148915
gura is first in vod views

>>3149131
Ogey

>>3148875
>Okayu has 5k members
>Miko has 10k members
>both have a million subs
I don't think this is one to one. Gura has some dead subs, I doubt she has 25k members.

>>3149088
You can just check the viewers of a members video to get a rough idea.

>>3149249
She brings in at least this much a month
>$238,480.00

>Chumkeks are using fictional numbers so they can claim that their sharks makes more money than the rest.

>>3149272
Cover gets a cut but its still a shitload of money.

>>3149321
Nobody did this anonchama. Remember about the medication, ogey?

>>3149249
Gura had 47k viewers on a member stream? What is the norm?

>>3149470
Now it’s even more pathetic that KFP clings to Superchat numbers for March only. Gura makes Kiara’s SC total in 2 months, plus has her own Superchat.

>>3149596
Just check Playboard and look for the videos without thumbnails. Everyone’s are available for comparison.

>>3149249
Fuck, she has that many members? No wonder she doesn't really care about maximizing supachatto money.

>>3149272
>Gura makes $238,480.00 from members
What still don’t know how many members exactly though. But she seems to have a fucking ton. Wtf.

>>3149705
Her best content is in members only.

>>3149249
>>3149651
Was this really a menshi stream or a regular unarchived stream?
When I check the playboard of the chuuba I have menshi of, it doesn't show the menshi streams.

>>3149249
now I understand why she spoils her members so much

>>3149757
That anon is lying, it's a normal unarchived.
Playboard doesn't see members only information.

I guess it’s safe to say Gura makes more money than Calli.

>>3149249
Even that's not accurate really. It only takes 30 seconds for a view to get counted and we can't see the estimated unique viewer number. Especially with streams people can jump in and out.

>>3149249
It's a regular stream you doofus, do you even watch her?

>>3149871
Dang you hate to see it

>>3149871
I can see Haachama’s member streams on Playboard. I was looking for other streams to compare it to. So far I found this one.

>>3143864
>niji apex
Are they like mandated to play this game? I thought they've got broader permissions than Holos, why don't they play other games?

>>3149873
Now this is delusional as fuck lamo

Then can anyone accurately gauge the correct number of members Gura has or no?

>>3149886
It’s a live stream so there is no VOD and it shows the total amount of concurrent viewers over time.

>>3149921
It seems to be viewers, not members.

>>3149921
Unarchived doesn’t mean member only

>>3149938
>Calli has more members than Gura
Can you post both so we can see?

>>3149921
It's a regular unarchived stream though?

>>3149921
Unarchived isn't members only.
Also Haachama likes to make streams public before making them members only when the stream ends..

>>3149921
Kill yourself chumtranny you're dumb as fuck

>>3145414
>Calliope: $122,994
How does she do it?

>>3149982
Yeah, I am trying to find a metric on the unarchived ones but I can’t find it on SocialBlade either.

>>3150010
music + birthday

>>3150005
Some one asked how many members, I thought that info was available because of Haachama’s. I am still looking but there is still someone that does know the actual numbers from using the API during the live stream. It’s not like I did more than just check playboard.

I am able to see Haachama’s member only streams, not just the ASMR ones that get archived later for members. But I can’t seem to find any stats on Gura Member streams, like watchalongs and stuff. For example it’s safe to assume Haachama has around 4k members because of the amount of likes on a members only video. The live viewers amount isn’t listed though.

>>3150010
She does song uploads. I noticed not ever video is gaming, which helps too.

>>3150483
Total views for her songs:
25,409,713 Spotify
50,433,028 Youtube

She's got some nice passive income with her music.

>>3150428
This is the closest I can find to the total number of members Gura has, it’s her most recent most liked post in the member section of YouTube.

>>3150527
Just based off that purely.
$27,500 base assuming it's all USD.
$19,250 a month after youtube takes their cut (30%).
If Cover takes a cut (35%) it's around $12,512 a month.

>>3150428
>>3150527
For some reason a lot of viewers don't give likes. So I think you should probably double those numbers at least.

I don't doubt that Gura has something tens of thousand of members with her amount of subscribers.
I'm membered to Astel and he has 900+ (he thanked everyone individually), with 107k subscribers.

>>3151359
something like tens of thousands "
typo

>>3147822
The ad revenue is where it's at. Superchats are only a fraction of the income once you start going into the 500k subs.

>>3151450
I always wondered how much of a cut hololive streamers get from ad revenue after youtube and cover take their share.

>>3150010
Music and ep and all of that and she cant even pass lamy in SC, now see her go back to 50k a month

>>3148875
Imagine thinking broke chumbabies can even afford to pay for memberships

Pekora vs Gura

Included pic to show video views compared to video hours

Pekora:
Subscribers: 1.42M, account created on Jul 3rd, 2019
subscriber daily averages: +2.33K

Gura:
Subscribers: 2.58M, account created on Jul 16th, 2020
subscriber daily averages: +4.33K

>>3160735
t. Chumbud trying to change the goal posts after seeing their oshi mogged by every relevant metric

>>3162400
Huh, was any of that data wrong? Not sure what you’re referring to? If anything is wrong, point it out.

>>3160735
>>3160735 #
t. Chumbud trying to change the goal posts after seeing their oshi mogged by every relevant metric by Pekora

>>3162457
Just point out what is incorrect.

>>3162498
What's incorrect here is that chumkeks are trying to pass off VOD views as a relevant metric when it's painfully obvious that chumbabies watch Gura's stream for 30 seconds only and they still count as "views" by Youtube

chumbuds cope

>>3160203
I'll advice u to pray to God that does happen

>>3160735
Pekora got more VOD views today, this week, and this month.

Also gets more SC revenue monthly
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

just adding more info

>>3162751
>Video views don’t matter on YouTube
I pretty sure they matter on YouTube, but I also listed subscriber daily averages to show how many they pick up daily. Does that also not matter on YouTube?
>chumbabies watch Gura's stream for 30 seconds only and they still count as "views" by Youtube
Actually, YouTube doesn’t count views unless you’re watched longer than that. That’s a fact, not my opinion. Although I forgot the reason why this was implemented.

If you’re angry because you think I’m suggesting that Pekora is being live view botted by extreme fans, I had said no such thing.

>>3163058
NTA but a google search proves you are wrong

>>3150010
I don't know, but I feel bad for deadbeats. They've been roped into a scam and they don't even care.

>>3163022
>views
You have to compare each video, side by side, because a streamer can create 20 videos compared to another streamers 5 videos. Obviously the 20 will likely have a greater total overall views.
>>3163145
Wrong about what? Nothing I said was incorrect. If you can provide proof, go for it. I say this with confidence.

The only good chumtranny is a dead chumtranny

>>3163058
>Video views don't matter for Youtube
They matter for Youtube but they don't matter for us.

Imagine using VOD views as a metric for live streams when a) they are LIVE streamers and b) Streams are meant to be enjoyed LIVE

I'd accept VOD views as a metric for Chuubas that primarily make skit videos like Kizuna Ai, HimaHina or OmegaSis. but for Live Streamers; no, because of the reasons I said above.

>Youtube doesn't count views less than 30 seconds

See picture. Seethe and cope cumkek

>>3163270
by that logic you have to compare streamers that speaks the same language too, english audience is bigger than the japanese one after all

>>3109302
gee anon why does hiroshimoot let you have 2 numberfag threads?

>>3163429
you are right, meidos should close one

>>3163356
>english audience is bigger than the japanese one
Wouldn’t that ruin the point you were trying to make though? Are you saying that Gura gets a greater amount of views per video? Or even the same amount?

>>3149922
Nips unironically have an obession with Apex.

>>3163508
you do realise he meant potential?

Explain to me why the fuck are you guys hitting each other when nijishitty's soft undefended underbelly is right there asking for a good kicking?

>>3163350
>views per video matter for Youtube but they don't matter for us.
What us? Also what matters is subjective to each person. Read the thread title too. Saying that video views as well as daily subscribers on YouTube don’t matter, is very strange. I’m not saying Pekora is being live view botted to explain the difference, either.
>>3163600
You clearly missed the point.

>>3163694
>You clearly missed the point.
no not really.you morons are just setting up rulles to make your favorite look better while ignoring other areas where they suck

>>3163644
jeez hololive is destroying those niji faggots

>>3163644
>inb4 muh merch

>>3163644
because thats litteraly almost every month and you will get the same responses as always

>>3163508
I never said she doesnt gets more VOD views per video, she does, Im saying that at the end of the day what matters are the results. If one could have earn more views by uploading more videos it doesnt matter cause that is just a non existent scenario, like a hipotetic scenario where pekora speaking english could get 3 times more viewers, it doesnt exist

>>3163824
Actually, I’m completely indifferent. That’s why I’m open to correction. Yet nothing I listed was wrong, and if someone told me Pekora had more LIVE viewers, I’m not saying that is wrong at all. So the only issue I see here is people unable to accept the full reality. I’m fine with it all.

>>3163644

>>3163971
All that money and they still can't get rights for better games

>>3163912
>I never said she doesnt gets more VOD views per video, she does
Then we don’t disagree on that.
>Im saying that at the end of the day what matters are the results.
Like growing your channel based on the number of new daily subs? That’s part of it. Obviously live views matter too on YouTube, but it’s not any one factor on its own.

>>34542948
>150 talents
>earns 1/3rd of a company with 50 talents
imagine being a nijikek right now

>>3164012
what games /v/kun?

>>3163350
>"VOD VIEWS DON'T COUNT!!1!!1one"
You're just a retard that can't understand that people from different parts of the world consume media in different ways. North America has lived under the umbrella of DVRs for the better part of two decades, which made watching live TV on demand a very commonplace thing. It's how people ended up adapting to Netflix's online VoD service so easily.

>>3163971
COMPLETE GLOBAL DOMINATION

>>3164041
Im not gonna tell you that subs dont matter like most people here cause for me they are like a chuuba´s presentation card, specially for normal people that is like 90% of the audience. But we are talking about corporate chuubas and for their companies SC numbers, adds from VOD views, memberships and paid promotion streams are more relevant

>>3164012
Yeah because nijisanji has so much more variety in games, like apex, valorant, and ark

why do Mel and Choco have such low performance compared to the rest of hololive?

>>3164469
They barely stream, and their main content is ASMR which youtube really doesn't like.

>>3164469
They specialized in lewd ASMR and stuff like that so they were the most effected by youtube cracking down on that stuff. In fact Choco used to be one of the best performing and most popular members in hololive before the nerf.

>>3164334
>adds from VOD views, memberships and paid promotion streams are more relevant
Well money from ads takes into account the YouTube views (more views = more money). Also memberships and paid promotions matter too. I don’t actually know how many members Gura has, but I assume it’s a lot.

>>3164538
>>3164539
>Choco used to be one of the best performing and most popular members in hololive before the nerf.
wow i didn't know that. damn.

but aren't they entertaining or pleasant without asmr?

>>3164539
Well the reason sexual stuff is being censored relates to YouTube being an US company. In the US, females showing skin = whore/sin/evil. Boobies = bad.

>>3164738
they dont even try, they stream the bare minimum, also they earn more money with their roommates

>>3164738
Not terribly no, that's why they've fallen off so hard since then. Choco has some cute autism moments when it comes to dinosaurs but she rarely plays anything other than Ark, and Mel barely streams.

how do Nene's April numbers compare with Botan's and Lamy's numbers in their respective months of their 3D debuts?

>>3150527
Youtube has an average "like" engagement of 3.4%, meaning 3.4% of people who watch a whole video and generally like the content enough to watch another video will actually "like" the video; with 10% being almost impossible to achieve even with a small engaged audience and the youtuber begging for likes.

To give you an idea, she did a members only poll last Halloween, with 9k votes for what video to watch but only 2k likes on the video. and we know 9k isn't all her members (and this was back around 1m membership)

easily 2/3 of the chat in any of her videos live are members, including tonight's unarchived karaoke, with 35-40k live viewers; if you figure 2/3 veiwers tonight were members that gives you an absolute min number of members at 22k, but we know not all her members watched, in fact judging by her video view rates, only 1/20 of the final views usually occur live, meaning she could be over 400k members on the high end.

I think that 400k number insanely unlikely, and it would indicate poor engagement for members which should be the most engaged of her viewers, I suspect the actual members numbers to be in the 40-80k range. this would produce about the 2-5k likes she gets on her members only streams (assuming 3-5% like engagement).

Assuming all those members are $5 not $10 she makes a min of 200k per month in membership (as high as 400k) before taxes, youtube and cover's cut.

>>3164901
should be pretty good since her 3D debute got the most money out of all of them so far. only one close from gen5 was Lamys but there is still quite a difference

>>3164901
>>3165073
Lamys 3D month earnings

>>3165073
holy fucking shit. she has the highest earning 3D debut in ALL OF HOLOLIVE? MORE THAN COCO? fuck that's amazing.

>only one close from gen5 was Lamys
i wouldn't be surprised if lots more superchats suddenly poured in during Nene's perverted session with Lamy in that stream.

>>3165233
>>3165073
>>3164901
Nene ones
one thing to notice is that Lamys new years costume seems to also count for that month

>>3165233
>>3165284
i wonder why Lamy still earned more than Nene. Nene had a big month.

>>3165432
>one thing to notice is that Lamys new years costume seems to also count for that month
probably this and the Yukimin do seem to let a bit more money spring on regular streams compared to Nekkos. the differents isnt that great but it would add up in a month

>>3163270
Wrong about the 30 seconds thing. You literally just need to watch the streamer for 30 seconds for it to count as a view. You also need to have pressed the play button and not have the stream/video muted

>>3143183
Same shit for 2 years?

For you numbersfags try to do your maths and have some reference
Coco has 10k+ members (said on a stream 5 months ago ) and her members post goes between 1-4k likes and members-only stream between 2-3k likes. do your maths

>>3145414
It'd be interesting to see this normalized for the cost of living where they live. Like Ollie is consistently making more than some of the non-ID girls, and then factor that into her living in a poor country.

>>3166144
I thought it was 45 secs, but it doesn’t really matter. The rest certainly does though.

>>3166839
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/indonesia?currency=USD

She's essentially a top 1% income earner.

>>3147822
>Temma, the least subscribed person in Hololive, makes more money than Sora and Polka
The power of aunties.

>>3166471
You cant base something on a single member you fucking retard

>>3165432
>>3165637
I wonder why people keeps doubting lamy, she isnt called mini rushia/coco for nothing

>>3164789
There are many arguments to be made about why Choco isn't doing that great but claiming she streams the bare minimum is absolute horseshit. She had the 8th most hours streamed in HoloJP in 2020 and right when global interest was taking off when Covid first hit she was streaming insane Miko-esque hours monthly.

Things didn't work out for her for a variety of reasons but one of those reasons is NOT because she streamed the bare minimum.

>>3173381
how many hours she streamed on April?

>>3173464
Roughly 48 it looks, took a quick glance so might be off by a hour either way.

>>3143905
Lamy is actually down from her usual SC numbers. Most likely because Mobster Hunter.

>>3145414
>Mel earning less than all the IDs and even all the stars
Surely these numbers can't be right. That's just too low.

>>3179719
most of her streams lately have been collabs and people tend to sc less during those

so, the most pathetic thread currently - is it this one or the ollie got fingered rrat thread? are there other contenders?

>>3162838
Looks like vtubing as a whole is on the decline with the stats on that graph. I guess we need to post less and watch more.

>>3165273
>the highest earning 3D debut in ALL OF HOLOLIVE? MORE THAN COCO?
You forget to account for the increase in viewers caused by the Hololive boom in the west. Coco herself was a special case because she had more support than an average Holo member due to the fact she can speak English fluently. As the number of Hololive fans increases, the baseline for minimum number of superchats during big events like 3D unveiling rises higher and higher, to the point where even smaller channels of the company, in this case Gen 5, get insane amounts of support, while the older members can't benefit from that (since they've obviously already got their 3D) but rather get support during other events, like costume reveals. Just wait until EN Gen 1 gets 3D; it will be after the boost from VSingers and EN Gen 2 and their subs will have increased even more. I wouldn't be surprised if they get double or even triple Nene's SC during their reveal, especially for Calli.

>>3186647
>Gen 5 get insane amounts of support

>>3165284
Another thing to notice from Nene's 3D debut is that she has the most hype of all of them because of the circumstances she dealt with, like being the last of them having a 3D and having a redesign not to long ago

>>3187184
She was heavily promoted by almost all of the hologirls too. She was liked a lot of them.

>>3186698
Compared to what they would've got without the English/overseas audience, yes. Idk what the heck happened to Polka there desu

>>3163971
Is Patra and Haneru carrying the whole team?

>>3190246
Pretty much. This is normal for nip agencies. Hololive looked more like that before gen 3 found its stride.

>>3186698
She got debuff by her style. When her design is out everyone expecting some thing more crazy like Pekora. But Polka is too calm and that dont fit her design. Beside of that is the Aloe incident and the debut of Hololive EN was drive attention away from gen 5. But even with debuffs like that gen 5 still stronger than gen 4.

>giving a shit about Mel

You don't watch or financially support her. Why pretend like you care?

>>3191394
It's not that deep, she doesn't read superchats so she doesn't get any

>>3191394
Absolute delusion, 4 gets more views, superchats (by a long way) and subs than 5

all 50k+ view streams last month

April median views にじJP

>>3193253
Kuzuha not in first

What has the world gone to

>>3198646
>Be Gura
>lose in number of Viewers against Chuubas with less than half your Subcount

Pathetic

>>3198646
Stream where literally nothing was happening for the first 9 hours got #6...

>>3198646
reddit shitpost still going strong

>>3200483
>Gura making the list is dumb unless she is number 1.
Huh. I think she does decent overall, in subs, live views, video views, etc. Nothing to be upset about.
>>3201097
Is that good or bad? I honestly cannot tell anymore with the type of replies I get.

>>3191561
I do
To her mama

>>3200483
shes has been reclining.
>January, February, March, April
>25,697, 22,713, 18,777, 16,872

>>3194314
Tokyo ghoul fighting for 1st was one of the better things to watch out for these threads. Can he play apex again already?

>>3201568
what's this? max viewers?

>>3201568
All of holo EN has been reclining. Though Gura does start to come back a bit when she stops making every stream a gaming streams.

>>3201568
Nevermind Gura, Kaneki Ken's Valorant addiction costing him THIS much... Send him to rehab before it's too late

>>3202367
>Kaneki Ken's Valorant addiction costing him THIS much
No it's not. It's the purple oni fault.

>>3145552
She almost always has that many or more. The issue is just her not getting fucked by the bug.

>>3202392
You aren't kidding. He lost over 10,000 average viewers. That is actually insane. Massive recline, lol.

>>3148056
>Since chosens ones have quit their old channels/jobs
They don't. Noel and Coco both keep their old channels running.

>>3202502
And it's what he deserves

>>3202532
Shion too.

>>3148803
Polka has a codependent relationship with her fanbase like Kiara does. It's really surprising she doesn't get more supas from that alone while Kiara gets the lonely weeb supa money

>>3149618
To be fair the quality of Kiara's super reading has decreased a lot in the last month.

>>3200483
>Chuubas with less than half your Subcount
Liz Helesta (#9) has 500K subs which means she has the same # of views as someone with 5X her subscribers.

>>3202601
Well, I don't know if he "deserves" it, lol. I have no hate for Nijisanji, I was just merely pointing out that losing over 10,000 average viewers over the course of one month is actually ridiculous. Either his yab with discount Ayame drove a lot of people away or he can only draw while playing Apex.

>>3202480
>Gura almost always has that many or more. The issue is just her not getting fucked by the bug
It’s not a bug. Gura only started to come back recently because she added a bit more variety to her streams. Bathtub pizza, live singing, etc. And people don’t mind her playing rhythm games. The moment she goes back to 6 regular gaming streams in a row, it will continue to drop.

>>3203043
Personally I feel like him streaming more Valorant has something to do with it for sure. He was playing way more Apex before, and there was a CRcup in March. The times where he was playing Apex this month got him more viewers too, even when he wasn't collabing with pro players.

Not ruling out the possibility that the yab affected his viewership but just sharing what I think could have affected it. I'm not really on Twitter and don't check places like 5ch or anything so I basically just watch his streams when I can.

>>3203424
Oh and I want to add to what I said that Kanae, who also started playing more Valorant lately, also had his viewership decrease since he toned down the Apex streams (although not as much, but he also didn't have the same numbers as Kuzuha to begin with and I feel like he has a bit more variety in what he streams but that might just be my impression).

>>3163166
>still thinking Mori is some mastermind

>>3163166
What the fuck are you on about

>>3198646

I think Gura's view count is right. She's in a stable position compared to her genmates. When she's streaming, it's usually at 8 or 9 in the morning for people in Japan and SEA like me. I'd usually watch her stream after work like most of my friends do.

>>3203424
APEX is getting weaker due to hackers/cheaters. Kagayaki even got delayed due to problems with customs servers. CR Cup should boost it up again. I think it will continue to be the most popular FPS in Japan for a while. Valorant isn't it and League would maybe get a boost if Japan magically wins MSI.

>>3207551
>8 or 9 in the morning for people in Japan and SEA like me
Fellow SEAnig as well but I work from home. If I do tune into a chuuba when I’m working, it’ll be because they have a talk, drawing, or singing stream. Maybe minecraft in the middle of the day. Too much energy is distracting

>>3207709
Today was a good day to be a SEAfag who's working from home. Korone/Marine and PekoMiComet fun.

>>3193082
From 130k 3D debut to 64k
>>3193253
And now Kuzuha is going down to 3rd place, losing to some literally whos funneling their streams
It's clear that instead of growing, they're losing viewers. I wouldn't be surprise if the investors and sponsors are pulling out after seeing this.

>>3166839
Superchats isn't available in Indonesia anon.

It's like comparing streamlabs earning, why did no one donated to HoloJP and HoloEN? Do they live in poor countries?

>>3200483
I would think that she’s playing a game that contain spoiler might lead people away. I didn’t watch it for that reason alone.

This thread is a fucking cancer. Americans really does ruin everything they touched.

>>3207979

>>3143864
>Duck getting 20k for horses
Is this arc back?

>>3207887
Well it's gonna be hard to determine the exact amount but you can still see from their SC that even anya can be considered medium to high earner in her league without needing to work 40 hours a week. I'm basing this out of her playboard so this doesn't account for special stream etc.

>>3208049
Umamusume never stopped getting huge numbers, people just stopped streaming it because there's only so much content you can get out of rolling gacha and also they don't want to be known as "the horse pussy channel"

>>3208937
>Umamusume never stopped getting huge numbers
Nijishits never broke 10k playing Uma Musume. People came to watch Subaru, not the game.

>>3209159
>Nijishits never broke 10k playing Uma Musume.
Anon...

>>3207551
>8 or 9 in the morning for people in Japan and SEA
almost like that isnt the core audience for a EN chuuba...

>>3221972
yeah cause we seanigs obviously are swimming in borger dollar to throw at them

>>3221972
It might not be the majority of the audience but it's still a potentially big part of it

The totals should still go up because of how playboard works but as of right now both outfit reveals are sitting at $17k which is a lot lower than I thought they would be

Am.. am I remembering wrong? I thought Gura's debut stream passed 100k and her first karaoke hit something like 120k, but Hiyoko says otherwise... am I just totally out to lunch on this or is there anyone here who watched them that remembers the same thing?

>>3229613
the public karaoke did hit 120k, you can even see people numberfagging in the chat if you watch vods of it

>>3232185
>>3229613
it was unarchived, thats why it doesnt appear on those lists apparently
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/video-info/WnHaQOhuj_s

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many average live viewers Pewdiepie gets, to make a comparison to Hololive? Remembering of course, that he has a ton of subs.

>>3233112
around 40 or 50k. There are other streamers who get more, especially on Twitch where there is no bug

somebody explain rushia to me.
that shit is bonkers.

>>3233172
Wtf, no way. Hololive is doing very well then. At least in live views. Pewdiepie obviously gets a lot more uploaded video views.

>>3233263
Just try watching her for a stream or two, your wallet will start to open on its own

>>3143183

>>3145552
Overhyped piece of shit game

>>3233278
There was a point where him and Pekora were both streaming and she had more viewers, someone pointed it out in the Peko thread but I could look it up

>>3233278
There are male streamers who constantly get over 100k+ live, but in terms of female streamers, pekora (and marine I think) compete for the literal top of it all. Pokimane gets 20-30k live on twitch, and Valkyrae 31k on yt live.

>>3149922
Chihiro likes Apex.

>>3233413
I think I greatly underestimated the success of Hololive. Mainly because I see threads like this where 10k views means they’re doing terrible. It puts things in better perspective.

>>3233413
Miko and Korone actually routinely place ahead of Marine on these charts because while they may not hit the peaks of Marine, they maintain very high averages while streaming a ton more. Pekora on the other hand maintains the peaks of Marine with the hours of Miko and Korone and that is why she is always so damn high.

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/top-10-most-popular-vtubers-2021-1548675/

>>3233413
spic number > eop number

>>3233699
all the hololive girls are genuinely already successful even if a branch like ID has such small numbers compared to the other two branches they still do amazing compared to their ID peers

>>3234815
>normies rule

>>3234854
by ID peers I mean like other ID groups/indies

>>3233295
Bros, we need to spam more

We cannot let ourselves lose to /pol/

>>3234815
HoloES > HoloEN > HoloJP soon

Total view count Top 10

>>3235129
When do you think Pekora will surpass Korone subs??

>>3145414
Damn I didn't know most of Holostars is making somewhat liveable wages now. Good for them.

>>3235129
Gura and Calli is 8th and 9th despite only debutting 6-7 months ago

Also, does this count Short form Videos (like Scatman and the like) and Music Videos? Because I'll kneel to Gura for being that high up despite all of her videos being Gaming/Zatsudan

>>3235326
Yes, this is just tracking total video views on the channel. That is why Okayu is so high even though she is about mid-tier as far as viewership goes. Her songs all blow up.

>>3235458
Goomba... I kneel

>>3235314
It pretty touching to know they’re doing better now. Although not as much they benefited from the boost from Hololive’s previous buff. Even though their base is small they got some pretty loyal fans and in Son’s case, he’s practically Mr.Popular with the amount of people and connection he has due to all his collabs.

>>3235458
Wtf is wrong with EN management. Gura is particularly good at song and rap uploads, yet she never does any. The should have made it a requirement to do 1 upload a month. One could even go viral and help grow the network.

And now some projections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxe42SIXCEU

1 Million Club

1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)
5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)
6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)
7. Mori (Jan 25, 2021)
8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)
9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)
10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)
11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)
12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)
13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)
14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)

Upcoming (over 900k):
15. Matsuri
16. Kiara
17. Ina


2 Million Club

1. Gura (Jan 18, 2021)

>>3235669
Gura is too shy and lazy. She’s probably still overwhelmed by the fact she dwarfs everyone else in the entire company. That kind of shit can cause serious mental stress to most people, autistic or not.

>>3235669
Probably access. Her home set up is not good enough as a sound studio.

>>3235669
That's probably a Gura issue, not an EN Management issue

Kiara was able to secure rights for a Cover (the Black Rock Shooter ED), so I think copyright is that big an issue. Most likely is that Gura either a) doesn't want to make music covers for her channel like Noel, b) cannot secure rights for songs she wants to cover or c) she's just a lazy stinky brat

Today's numbers

>>3235809
This is probably the first time I've seen Miosha get those kinds of numbers

AsaMio seems to be a good idea. If she keeps these numbers up, Gamers might be in contention with HoloMyth as the first Gen to have all members be in the 1 million club

>>3235789
If we’re honest, probably all 3. I always have a thought that Kiara struck sort of gold for having Huke as her papa. Huke at least cares enough to see her and support her, compared to alot of other famous artist which is pretty tits.

>>3235669
Singing is a huge part of being a Japanese vtuber and it has been going all the way back to the 4 heavenly kings era. I personally think it should be a requirement. Like, not a strict requirement or anything but you should at least be required to put out some kind of cover or original on a somewhat consistent basis.

The duet Gura did with Matsuri was great but everybody knows that once Gura records her own song it's going to absolutely blow up and probably contend with RIP as far as views go.

>>3235882
Mio has been getting this kinds of numbers for her golden week morning show, because it involves call ins. Today is particularly prominent because Coco was one of the guests

>>3235882
>Gamers might be in contention with HolyMyth as the first Gen to have all members be in the 1 million club
Unless Kiara and Ina fall of the face of the earth and stop producing content there is no way Mio beats them to 1 million. Even then they would probably still beat her since freaking Aloe is still gaining subs, lol. Not trashing Mio or anything but she is so far behind.

>>3235732
>Her home set up is not good enough as a sound studio
Does it need to be for a funny clip? I mean, it still makes no sense. I’m surprised Cover or Gura doesn’t hire someone with some comedic ability and experience with editing and uploads, to help run her channel. Use it to pump out content or whatnot. The potential for views has been there for awhile, especially considering who she is.
>>3235724
>Gura is too shy and lazy.
If you’re shy, it’s easier to do uploads vs live streams.

>>3235732
She sounded fine in the duel with Matsuri

>>3236125
A lot of people think Gura is purposefully debuffing herself so that someone else can take over her as the face of Hololive

Look at how long it took her to have another Public Karaoke despite being touted as one of the better singers in Hololive.

>>3235696
>1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
>2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
>3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
I'll never not seethe about this.

>>3236146
That took four months to get produced, I don't think it speaks to her having ready access to a professional studio

>>3236272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lcOyt_403U

The visual representation

>>3236239
>Gura is purposefully debuffing herself so that someone else can take over her as the face of Hololive
Nah, that’s too retarded. Although when she did that 11 gaming streams in a row (with concern for variety), it does make you wonder.
>Look at how long it took her to have another Public Karaoke despite being touted as one of the better singers in Hololive.
That one can probably be explained by shyness. Maybe she needs to start drinking? Just sayin.

>>3236296
Okayu mentioned not too long ago that her songs also take ~4 months to produce so it's not exactly rare.

>>3236527
And now, it's Mogu Mogu everywhere

>>3143183
>nene
proof that zatsudans are where there REAL content is

>>3236483
>Maybe she needs to start drinking? Just sayin.
Fuck off.

>>3235696
Gura will reach 3m before any other holo reaches 2m. How does that make you feel?

>>3241921
Nothing not everyone cares about numbers.

>>3241921
I hope she beats Kizuna Ai to 3m. Kizuna Ai's push to 3m has been glacial so far and Gura has been consistent. The possibility isn't zero, so I have hope.

>>3242135
If Gura releases her own song soon, it might be over for Kizuna.

>>3235247
in two or three months maybe

>>3241921
Happy for Hololive and the fact antis and falseflaggers will seethe more

>>3242180
If she fucking revealed any big projects soonish, it'd be over for Ai. But fuck me, Cover needs to light a fire under her ass and get her going. That'd be a huge land-mark for them as a company and for VTubers in general to hit 3m before the OG.

>>3165073
Does Korone not even make it into the list? Jesus how little did she get?

>>3242323
She pretty much did teased some big stuff coming from her later this month after her family break.

>>3143183
These threads need to be stopped. Being best vtuber has nothing to do with numbers.

>>3242353
pretty much every 3D before 4th gen and Flare´s didnt get big numbers since they were before Hololive´s big boom

>>3242323
This
The fact that she has remained as popular as she has despite doing pretty much nothing but lazily playing games is pretty amazing. If she starting actually doing unique and fun stuff she would incline quite quickly back to her debut era numbers. I'm sure of this.

>>3242482
>Hololive´s big boom

This was the Hololive EN debut, correct?

>>3242493
If I was Cover, I would just hire someone to help with her channel behind the scenes. No one has to know.

>>3242511
no

>>3149038
You really are handling that retard with kid gloves

>>3242624
Was it 5 or 6 months after EN debuted? I feel like it was EN that should take credit for vtubers becoming mainstream.

>>3242566
Yeah, Upd8 did that. Look how well that turned out.

>>3242754
just go and look when the holos started growing massive in subs, that´s when the first boom happened

>>3242754
No, it was Around time Coco had her 3D debut, it was the first Hololive stream to reach 100k viewers, and Korone started going viral with clips.

>>3242760
Lots of big YouTubers hire people for video editing and such, to take some of the workload off. They can even make a team of people. But its mainly done for big channels or channels with great potential to grow. Most big YouTubers can’t be bothered with some of that workload.

>>3191650
Superchatto arigatou~
Superchatto dayo~
Superchatto arigatou~
Tottemo ureshii yo!

>>3235247
It doesn't matter. Korone's subs are mostly deadsubs anyway. Even Ayame gets more average ccv and superchats and she has 600k less subs.

>>3242867
yeah, ive said it other times, makes no sense youtubers of their size dont get editors then say they dont make better content because editing takes too much time.

>>3235326
Remove Mori's music from the equation and now you're getting real numbers. She's mid-tier at best in livestreams.

>>3242867
I assume Gura and the rest does have someone or at least a small team that help manage her channel, making thumbnails and whatnot.

>>3235789
while idk what content kiara used to do, gura did a complete 180 when she joined hololive. Maybe the management does not want things like that anymore.

>>3242998
What an absolutely fucking retarded metric.
>Remove the thing touted as their talent, and you get their real numbers

>>3201568
nyanners and rest of vshojo with 20+% monthly growth while everyone else is reclining hard

i must kneel...

>>3236527
Why does it take so god damned long anyway? I have no idea what goes into producing music but it's only a cover, not a full blown original song.

>>3235129
>>3241921
>>3243041

>>3243175
What does this table have to do with the posts you linked?

>>3242482
But still, she gets less Fubuki and Okayu but both of them were still before the big boom. What is it that makes people so resistant to throw their money to Korone I wonder

>>3243175
What does this have to do with literally anything?
Fucking christ. I love Pekora, but holy shit Numbersagi are the lowest pits of garbage

>>3243240
>>3243281
Those numbers are hours watched, april live ave. And number of streams. Pretty much shows jp dominating en

>>3242754
The EN getting popular is thanks to the people prior to them that built the Hololive brand. If they debuted under a different company, they wouldn't be nowhere near as relevant as they do (vshojo). Hololive was already quite popular among the global audience even before EN exists. They got a massive initial fanbase from the get go, coupled with the fact that they speak the most common language helped the algorithm to promote them more.

>>3243430
OK you win

>>3243430
And? I was talking about subscribers, anon.

>>3243430
>shows JP dominating EN
>Gura is 4th overall (JP and EN included) on only 69 hours streamed
I guess you have a totally different definition of dominating. It's actually crazy that she is that high with those limited streaming hours.

>>3145414
Nice quads, Reine
Polka...

>>3242754
Fuck off, I know you're probably baiting but this board is full of globalfags who actually think this

>>3243712
Look at marine, pekora, ayame, aqua stream hours and compare them with gura. Now look at the other Ens

>>3236527
It's not always like that though because Shion released a cover of Vampire less than 6 weeks after the original was posted

>>3243660
Numberfags gets numbers, moreso when live is more accurate than subs