/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>30985568
Next planned vote, to be started on Friday/Saturday

>Vote Results
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https://rentry.org/44do6
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>Bylaws
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>CURRENT PROMPTS
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>Special
The roster result for out /vtl/ team came out, see here: >>30042825 (Dead) (DEAD) (Dead) (DEAD) (Dead) (DEAD)
Music for the medals are also decided: >>30323043 (Dead) (DEAD) (Dead) (DEAD) (Dead) (DEAD)
The next round would decide the music for the team anthem, see the suggestions here: https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Submissions for your vocaroo in the WAR chant and bill boards (must be 512x96) are still ongoing.
Team Caretaker Trip Code: !p84LALNCrk

Last but not least, an anon stepped up and wanted to do a quick tourist's guide for the various nations of Vitubia! >>29911443 (Dead) (Dead) (Dead)
If you are up for it please submit a short text that introduce your nation by replying to this post.
More details in the rentry below.
https://rentry.org/ziuog

YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX YORUMI SEX

>Anchor post for the chuubanite concept.

PLEASE KEEP ALL CONCEPTS ON THE CONCEPTS OF CHUUBANITE TO THIS CONCEPT CHAIN. Anons who do not wish to see chuubanite concepts should hide this concept.

Current Concept: https://rentry.org/chuubanite (CIP)

Official Chuubanite Concept Concept: https://youtu.be/V83JR2IoI8k

>Anchor post for Ocean, Sea, and Continent naming discussion.
Post your maps here so we can see them and talk about them!
Also suggest names for them!
(Possibly vote on this to settle it?)

>>30993906
Mapanon and climateanon would have to give the OK (please respond if you see this), but how would you feel about picrel, vespierep? Also, tako, I'd like to know how you feel about the idea of giving you the new island to develop your lore with. If all the reps involved can agree on a solution that satisfies everyone, I think the vote will go a lot more smoothly.

anyway OG, if read the last chapter i would love to hear your feedback

>>30982087
>>30951993
>>30835662
Apparently risuners went from fucking saplings to exterminating them. We really didnt take kind to the one that came to our thread as well. Fucking kek

>>30913172
>>30913220
That was super cute, especially nearing the end. Thanks for posting.
>>30927131
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ARDYYYYYYYYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa
>>30986055
>>30986109
>>30986155
no..... Ardy......

>>30994777
The island is small and in the same "line" with /mans/, it shouldnt be an issue fr the currents

>>30994933
>The island is small and in the same "line" with /mans/, it shouldnt be an issue fr the currents
That was my thought process, that's good to know.

Also, good evening vtwbg ive come down with the coof and been unable to post or read the past 24h

have I missed anything?

>>30994777
It's OK. Maybe move both of them slightly southward if you're unsure.

>>30994933
thanks for this, someone sharing their emotions is the greatest feedback and compliment i could get for my part in this

Should clarify that the third post is them coming to /risu/ and we told em to fuck off.

POLLS FOR ANTHEMS WILL LIKELY BE HELD TOMORROW!
NOW IS THE TIME TO FINISH UP ANY REMAINING SUBMISSIONS!

Chants will continue to be accepted for longer and I'll give a deadline on that as we get closer to the vtl itself. If you guys have suggestions for other aspects of our team then be sure to let me know, but it will be harder to accommodate larger changes for players at this time, so please keep that in mind.

We are also accepting stadium billboard ads at this time, so if you have a neat idea or a creation you want to submit yourself, just send it my way. Please note that your ads need to be in the proper ratio, so something like 512x96 or 1024x192.

>>30994777
Well it certainly looks better! I'll still have to consider it a bit more if you don't mind. I feel like I've started to entertain the idea of going either way. Would love to hear /wah/rep's and Cunt's thoughts

https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#bug-taming
I wrote the kinsect part of the insect glaive that I discussed here a while ago

>>30994928
So how do you translate this in world? Risuners deciding that getting Sapling magic the peaceful way isn't working out and they instead decide to get it the hard way? Will the hoomans finally get to participate in something? Will moriji support these acts of hostility? Find out next time on Squirrels fucked up Z!!

>>30995549
well tbf i think the entire board is sick of I MISS FAUNA so its just shitposting.

>>30995419
Go for it! At this point, I just want to somehow both put this behind us and have everyone be happy.

>>30995668
Now now, don't try to sweep this under the rug. You have a conflict on your hands, whether you want it or not. And the nation's should represent the thread culture, after all.

>>30994777
Didn't Takorep say that big island is 30% of their territory?

>>30995892
>sapling gets raped by risuner
>risuner gets dick chopped off and raped by own severed dick
>saplings threaten to shun risuners forever
>risuners get teleported via jannie divine intervention
>risuners say "fuck it" and go back and try to force the saplings into co operation
>profit

>>30996031
No but that is true.

>>30995892
entirely his fault for joining in on catalog erp, the other risuners don't seem to like og too much either for the shit he pulled like here >>30860297 the other posts must be risuners attempting to correct the damage og did by gun posting

>>30996105
>risuners say "fuck it" and go back and try to force the saplings into co operation
>first real war ensues
Fixed it for ya :D

>>30996031
>>30996116
It's actually a bit under 20%, if that makes any difference.

>>30996031
>>30996116
Closer to 18%, assuming low polar distortion.

>>30996264
not gonna fight a war with only 35 people. barely 100 with the entire fleet crew. Best they would do is steal a few things.

for the /warkop/ rep

i remember saying as such before i went on my break but i like the 3 kingdoms vs 1 dynamic a lot and the way it is fleshed out is very nice. i must say out of all the lore entries of new nations that have been come in recent tiems i personally liek this one probably the msot because it actually focuses on the land and describes it in a way that makes you imagine it. too many nations got lore entries that just feel like they are just some boring document to file away with unnecessary logn lists of just stuff listed that tells nothing about a nation.

only thing i found weird was the part of the warsuners that said their artillery is one of the msot outdated ones and then says its fuckign breechloaders wich absolutly is far off from being outdated at all and is in fact very modern.

Paragraphs, did you need a qrd on the oldfag shit? Basically sakuran rep went schizo over mhm taking land from bakatare because its holojp and brought up how its unfair, and how little mhmrep did anything for the thread compared to mans

>>30996369
Well, you would get teleported back to /risu/ right? Wouldn't you get some reinforcements before coming back? Risuners aren't that stupid, right? Also, how do you steal magic knowledge? Also, if you did get teleported back to /risu/, would your ships stay in /who/ or come back with you? Would be hilarious if the janny that teleported you forgot about your ships kek.

>>30996614
Warsuner i think used irl old east asian artillery for that, i could be wrong.

>>30995480
Lioranon, this is awesome, nice job. I'd like to see this get used in a story now...

>>30996851
the 2 other expeditions would take the ships back......bruh. Also not stealing knowledge just the artifacts. The witches would have to figure it out for themselves.

>>30996865
not a milautist so i dunno what potential historic special cases there is all over the world

i can simply go by what little i know and for that breechloading is not old and outdated

but i jsut found it to be a contradiction so it snot like i care if they got more thorough knowledge of what they are talking about, i have long since stopped caring about technology timeloops as logn as no one is suddenly trying to justify freaking futuristic tanks and longdistance missile and shit.

I have a question about dead zones in the ocean.

>>30975507

They wouldn't be as bad in Vitubia as the real world but I wonder where they'd exist. If they exist.

>>30997154 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breech-loading_swivel_gun

>>30995480
Also anon, I noticed that you guys have smoky whisky and kvass, we'd love to import some of this stuff, do you think we could add those items to our trade agreement? I think Moriji as a nation has been waiting for good whisky.

>>30997350
Added, here you go!

>>30997454
>>30996685
>>30996452
Uhhhh OG…

>>30997468
Yay!

Word cloud is tired of all the bickering...

>>30997748

>>30997535
I would say something but i think this anon said it for me. Fuck off niggers stay out of my damn thread. >>30997736

>>30997129
Oh right, you had 2 other teams. Sorry for that. But the question still remains, would the Risuners in /uuu/ have the time to steal anything before the jannies teleported them? I would assume they would have reacted just as hostilities were starting to pick up, before you had the time to go from "let's fuck these Saplings brains out. " to "you know what fuck it, just steal shit and let's bounce."
Yes, I am giving you a hard time with this, but that is only because this is the one scenario where we can both agree that "Risuners stopped winning." As others have said, it can still be used as an interesting situation to write around, but we can't just allow you to brush it aside as if nothing major happened.

>>30997273
not gonna read that, not my interest, milautism is your job

>>30997909
>Fuck off niggers stay out of my damn thread.
You are one of the two people IIT that has no right to say that shit. You and Ri2ner.

>>30997350
Man I had lots of ideas for hard spirits. I wonder who can make tequila.

>>30996748
did anyone call the /mhm/ rep a pos or did he just feel like people were ganging up on him? as someone who has had to find ways to make myself look less like a pos, i look at his comment and can't help but cringe, regardless of the context that he is in. it looks like he is antagonizing oldfags for pointing out the fact that, as a newfag, he has had less time to make a name for himself, and that being a newfag naturally comes with the implicit understanding that they are lower on the social hierarchy than those whose shoulders they stand on. even ignoring how common this is for 4chan, all communities have this dynamic even if they aren't full of trolls and contrarians. what did he think he would gain from that post?
but again, i have no real idea what is going on so i don't have much room to say anything, it just kind of confuses me how newfags have been acting recently. generation dynamics happen much faster on 4chan it seems, which is understandable since everything is much faster to live and die here than on places like twatter and shitcord or whatever.

>>30998293
/meat/?

>>30997350
>getting wasted on good whiskey
We really will be best buds, huh moriji?

>>30998351
just dont worry about it

>>30998351
Read the conversation Sakuran rep had prior. That will fill you in. He basically shat on him for no reason yet was ok with mans because of who the fuck knows. He was probably pissed that he was randomly targeted

>>30998403
hell yeah

>>30998361
probably, we have a lot of alcohol and spices in our culinary system.
>>30998438
naturally. i just feel so out of touch.

>>30998489
he didn't respond to anyone so i have no idea which conversation that was, but i guess it makes more sense. still a terrible move, but at least understandable.

>>30998571
He probably just join, saw the bullshit and went fuck you at sakuran rep. Not the best move but I get it because Sakuran was being an ass for no reason

>>30997954
nothing major fucking happened. its just a few shitposts. Fauna thread spam with all that cow shit is "major" the excessive MOMMY threads are "major". This isnt major in any capacity and unless it becomes a major thing i dont plan to do a damn thing about it. I have plenty of other shit to write about anyway. Also /risu/ made it clear for whoever is posting in there to fuck off. Your not gonna succeed falseflagging in there. Anyway thats it from me I got some actual WORLDBUILDING to do. Ill be back fuckers.

>>30998293

>>30998777
kek

>>30998351
If the holoJPtribalfagchama wasn't acting like the guy didn't do shit since coming here and kept screaming about his poor poor JP generals losing land, perhaps he would have worded it differently. Specially since the decision to place both /mhm/ and /V7/ would have passed without any trouble in the last vote if it wasn't delayed for whatever reason(the only vote from that that had any reason to be delayed was /mans/ placement). Nobody had a major problem with their placement till like 2 days ago when all shit hit the fan with it. Obviously the guy would feel irritated by that. Honestly wouldn't fault him for just straight up quitting after this. Y'all always cry about wanting more holo writers and when we actually get them, you just can't help but give them a hard time.

>>30998777
Ah yes, the luknights of the shiny moons

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>>30998769
If nothing major happened, go into /uuu/ and try and have a normal convo there while being transparent about being a Risuner. If they don't tell you to fuck off or you get a vacation, then sure, it was a nothingburger.

>>30998957
Newfags always get shit, every single one for the past month has in one way been called a sockpuppet, a shitter or inferior. Nijiwriters got it first and now holowriters are too. But thise poor poor holojp! Oh my, what could they possibly do!

>>30998769
Will /risu/ discover acorn flour?

>>30998361
>>30998504
/meat/ would be the natural climate to find the right ingredients.

>>30998777
Don't he make Lunashine?

>>30997154
The big problems Europeans had in mid 19th century in adopting breech loaded artillery had to do with regulating the enormous gas and pressure found in an artillery. Artillery are usually subjected to exponentially more pressure and stress than small arms when firing. Breech loaded artillery from before the 15-16th century are usually in smaller caliber, same as the ones found in eastern designs. WARsuner's artillery is most likely inspired by Indonesian breech loaders that have been brought from the North. While a lot of Eastern nations adopted larger calibers gunpowder technology evolved I feel (note, feel since I'm not well versed in Historical Maritime South East Asian Warfare and thus could not say conclusively how they ended up with such a feature/trend in their artillery designs) that the general, smaller caliber artillery of Maritime SEA is influenced by the relative lack of heavily fortified settlements or fortifications, terrain and manufacturing. And the use of breech loaders especially on ships is kind of intuitive. Which is perhaps another factor that makes the Indonesians use breech loaded, smaller caliber swivel guns. The breech loaders that were made in Europe from around the 14-16th century were gradually replaced especially in anti-personnel use (which the breech loaders are only good for really). For more information on European Breech loaders read ch 13. of this book https://b-ok.global/book/21047170/9daec4

Also /2434/rep please do not ever troll the thread like that. It adds nothing and it just makes anons on edge. You should know this because you were also targeted by false flaggers for a while. If you do want a back up trip added, just reply to the OP and state your intention.

>>30998489
sakuran rep seems to have become worthless

all respect i had towards him went out of the window when he grounded his argument in "its a holojp nation losing land"

he attacked the /mhm/ rep for such a stupid reason, while once again having not properly informed himself and not even realizing it might actually be /stars/ thats gonna lose land sicne there will be a vote about a switch.

he was also totally fine with it the moment someone brought up "what if bakatare is switched with /zomg/ shwoing that he does not care about it being a repless nation but truly jsut a special case of tribalfaggotry about holojp

instead of pissing on reps that actually are enthuastic about the project he should instead actually go back to actually representing his homethread, the westside of the world already is lacking reps as it is, he could actually contribute in helping that side of the world feel more alive.

>>30999319
I will just be happy if the vote passes for the same borders as were proposed in the first vote. Should shut the oldfag's mouth for a while.

>>30999320
wtf is acorn flour? pls dont make me google shit i wanna focus on writing.

>>30998957
Oh lets not forget that his lore meant less to the thread because he doesnt do what cunt and vespiebro do. (Nothing wrong with them). Heaven forbid he make a lore doc and update it without posting text blobs.

>>30999487
gimme feedback you fucker, you are the person i want to hear his opinion the msot on about what i wrote today

>>30999487
Its a flour made from acorns. Its used like almond flour for keto baking. But don't worry about acorn flour now if it distracts you. Most acorn flour recipes aren't discovered until much later.

>>30999446
BASED and same. Coming from the faggot that mentioned that /zomg/ change, it really showed he is just a holoJP tribalfag. That switch proposal was just a shitpost btw, I would fucking hate to isolate the new guy in the north like that.

>>30999466
Ill vote for whatever mhm/v7bro wants. He added a little more to v7 but honestly, he is making good lore and he seems to have things mapped out well so its not a big deal to me.

>>30999550
I WAS WRITING......i assume retroanon right? fine ill take a quick break and see what you got.
>gets distracted from worldbuilding by reading other worldbuilding posts
fucking kek

>>30999487
Stachy nuts like acorns and beech nuts are usually leached of their tannins by boiling them in water and grinding them into flour. Koreans use acorn flour with wheat flour to make noodles and apparently European American settlers used beech nuts to make pancakes.

>>30999519
That shit especially rubbed me the wrong fucking way. Just because we have been here longer doesn't make our lore more important, fuck off with that shit.

>>30999735
Never change, OG

>>30999320
Lunshine, Moonshine, and any other edible shine

>>30999319
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those votes! I knew it was 7-6. One after 6-6. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. He – he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the anchor post to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That general! Are you telling me that a man just happens to falseflag like that? No! He orchestrated it! holojp! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own nation! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was nu, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the colony drawer! But not our holojp! Couldn't be precious holojp! Rrating them blind! And he gets to be a thread rep!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-

>>30999781
More than that, it was because you presented it in thread. I am telling you, if you were in Bakatare, he would have made the opposite point “where is the lore wrote down”. When was the last time he even made lore anyways? All I remember is him bitching about panons map and this now, proving he is a jptribalfag

>>30999833
>Lunashine.
>Its not a drink, but a photo of Luna in a bikini covered in oil on a beach.

>>30999735
ohh right you probably have not seen lumi glitch yet

>>30999781
me too, the fact he showed his tribalfaggotry in response to your shitpost about /zomg/ really pissed me off and only the fact i was a twork and phoneposting at the time which i hate to do for logner stuff is what stopped be from giving him an ear full. i rather used my energy to give my opinion to vespiebro because he is worth it.

>>30999781
I kinda still think that was a falseflag. I feel like Sakuran would have posted at least one Miko pic in that whole thing, besides all that being a bit OOC for him. Also sakuran didn't vote recently, which I feel like he would have if he was in the thread these days.

>>30999446
>>30999697
I still have some backreading to do for the previous threads, so I'm not entirely sure what the context here is, but it's worth noting that the swap will result in a lot more lost land than adding in the ID nations. /zomg/ is 800,000 sq km. /bakatare/ is 2,800,000 sq km. Being okay with swapping but not with throwing in the new threads makes little sense to me on those grounds.

I just read it retrobro....holy shit. I never thought I would feel so bad for a piece of metal but god damn dude. Right in the feels.

>>31000300
That's only if you take into account polar distortion, which people always forget to...

>>30999952
Ok so I just checked the docs, and unless I am blind(which might very well be the case) sakuran has a single lore scrap and a geology and climate entry. As far as I can tell, /mhm/ rep has him BTFO already...

>>31000371
Alice unironically has done more lore on his people than he did with her shitpost story.

>>31000504
Which is downright embarrassing if you ask me...

>>31000211
He did the same thing with ahoy, and didnt post migo then either.

>>31000368
How else could you compare areas? The interactive map makes it easy nowadays, so there's no excuse not to do it right.
>>31000371
Is that really all there is? I felt like he had done more. I suppose his presence in the threads was always more on the meta side of things, organizing the voting system and so on.

>>31000371
>>31000504
>>31000582
I'd just like to mention that someone called him Sakuran, and he just kinda rolled with it, but he didn't declare it himself. I'm not sure that was him and not a shitposter, given how counterproductive to his supposed point his interactions were. I'd rather we didn't badmouth him based on this.
>>31000606
There were multiple people who were against the whole /ahoy/ crap.

>>31000735
Not the first one, the island for exclave swap.

>>31000838
There were multiple against that as well...

>>31000211
I'm inclined to agree, though I don't remember sakuran's posts too well since they kind of drop in and out with thread organizing stuff, to suddenly reappear in such a bombastic way is out of character, also, didn't they have a tripcode, nanora?
>>31000125
naruhodo...

>>31000348
hope its okay with you that the story ends like that.

>>31000735
I mean. Thats how it went down the time before this, we only found out he was a rep when he told us. In this case, was rather clear it was him given the holojp shit about how he is the only jp rep (not true with twpi and watamelon, but like last time he doesnt keep up with the thread

>>31000895
He was the voice of that. There are also those against mhm now.

>>31000735
he did come in for the /ahoy/ stuff and back then he called himself the sakuran rep with no prior mention of him at all.

so either its someone who has taken on the name seeign that the sakuran rep seems to be gone for good or he just never had his tribalstuff triggered back in the day because not much was happening to JP nations back in the day at all

fact is this current person sucks

>>31000980
Im fine with it completely. Your a good storyteller retrobro. It was actually a lot of fun. And thanks for unintentionally shilling me lumi.

>>31000911
>>31001008
>>31001073
>>31001157
Having done some lore reps, I am pretty sure this wasn't actually Sakuran.
He only referred to himself as a JP rep after someone else called him the "Sakaran" rep, and his posting style is so, so different from how he wrote when he was active.
Judge for yourself: >>/vt/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=sakuran&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>31001157
He also didnt do his reps on the ahoy situation either and had the same approach

>>31001372
So the current “Sakuran” rep is a phony.

>>31001456
I'm pretty sure of that, seems like this anon just comes to shit on the conversation while taking a pro-JP stance to increase the polarization of the general.

>be me
>sees drama
>ignores it and just keeps writing
I aint got time for that shit. Falseflagging is way too rampant nowadays I cant trust anyone anymore.

>>31001604

>>31001604
You can still trust me, Risuner. Deadbeats will never betray you, and we don't have tripcodes beside.

>>31001604
>cant trust anyone
except for lunaitos

>>31001601
Agreed, i think at this point all reps need trips solely for this purpose. That way weazels cannot vote using past respect

>>31001859
>>31001868
>within 5 seconds
>Trustworthy Pink Women Supremacy

>>31001604
I might not have /nasa/ anymore but I'm still around.

>>30999836
underrated post kek

>>31002132
it would be very funny to see somebody try to falseflag as you, especially now that /nasa/ isn't really a thing anymore.
no clue what they would try to do, kek.

>>31001372
i dunno, taking a look back at it it did seem to have been clearly him back at teh /ahoy/ thign but i will admit he was more aggressive this time so most likely someone falseflagging

did not have any itneractions with him back in the day so its hard for me to have an impression of him i will admit

>>31001604
Uhh brunette unity?

>>31002250
bring up the old risuner sanalite timeloop again
aren't the remaining sanalites becoming luknights now?

>>31002342
If hooman then yes. Who else has brunette hair im too focused to try to think of that shit.

>>31002487

>>31002079
I can vouch for them. Pink women are indeed trustworthy
I don't know much a out this whole situation so I'd rather not say anything, but I'm kinda surprised I was named as someone the Sakura poster liked

>>31001309
glad you had fun with it. i am also glad that you are fine with me giving the story a tragic twist towards the end.

while i am sad about all the cute couple stories i had ideas for that are now gone but it was also ncie to have an oppurtinity to show just how strong the desire for piece is for the Retro Reich, and Onobots especially as well as show a more grimm side of Onobot society

>>31002540
Meat chads how are you doing in your new home?

>>31002487
Aside from us I think there are only the corpo/themed threads like /2434/ or /meat/ that have active writers and have brown haired chuubas.

Commodus logs ch.3

It has been months since I first left my village and encountered Maumigny (his name is Charles but I like to call him Maumigny) and I think by now it is definitely a safe bet to assume he is not going to fuck me over. If he had wanted to do so he definitely would have done it by now and probably without too much difficulty. Makes me realize that even though we have good natural defenses, individual tribes are no match for professional armies.

We are currently headed to Panrong as it is on the way to Silvanus. I guess he wants to go there because he sees it as important and because of the raiders over there. Fuck it by all means I am tired of that shit as all risuners are. What surprised me was his negative attitude to the kronies. While I personally don't care for them either I know a vast majority of risuners love them due to them teaching us a lot about modern world ideas and because they are almost as eager to nut exchange as we are.

(after the attack)
Had to put this log away as soon as I saw the upcoming raid. If hundreds of these guys can actually infiltrate /risu/ this deep and make it all the way to a major city like Panrong then we are seriously fucked. To be completely honest I had total faith in Panrong as the sheer number of risuners there would have taken out those guys but who was I to say no to extra help. And with Maunigny we basically had 0 casualties. I expect our chamber geese to be well fed with all the corpses and when they are done with that we can feed them the prisoners.
Maumigny likes to be the hero but I can't lie. He kind of is one. I told all the ones over at Panrong to have set emergency evacuation routes into their mining tunnels as well as arm them with the enemy weapons. Panrong is a city of mostly miners but warriors are always in demand and with all the extra stone they mine I told Elder Prisca to fortify the outer walls as much as possible. Even though the attack would not have succeeded it would have been an international embarrassment if we allowed Panrong to fall. After I gave instructions to Prisca to which she was in full agreement with I went back and learned a lot about Maumigny's tactics.

Formations and careful strategy are the main reason why as a whole, nations of the world tend to outclass those that don't use them (like us). At least it seems that way. While stealth and ambush is an excellent way to win war it is simply suicide if its sporadic and unorganized. I'll have to read up and learn on our way to Silvanus.

Commodus logs ch.4

Holy fuck. It's been a year already. I toured the country with Maumigny and have effectively become not only the risuner who can understand their language the best but also the one with the most in depth knowledge of battle formations and tactics. Well I would fucking hope so after all the studying I did. Making /risu/ a safe place by training our warriors will make me a fucking legend. Hell I just might win enough nuts to finally win the yearly nut tribute and shoot my nuts into Risu's mouth herself!
Once we arrived there Maumigny was in shock. He was expecting all this over fancy shit everywhere but to him our "capital" looked like an oversized village. We have the upper layer in the trees like most risuner villages except of course Silvanus is much bigger and many brides connecting the large amount of platforms. Then there is the bottom layer which houses most of the shops and utilities as well as the large circle in the middle for when Risu does her yearly nut tributes. Of course since Maumigny doesn't like to get laid too much he was horrified at all our designated cum zones or as he calls them, "brothels".
Not to mention our beaches looked like a battlefield with fortifications and watchtowers everywhere. People were really preparing for invaders here after recent raids. How the hell could I ever blame them though. One day we will be strong enough to deal with the fuckers on our own. Whether we use magic or start getting big cannons and ships, I dream of one day people will come here and we don't have to worry about them attacking us.

The negotiations went pretty well after he was basically interrogated. I had to do a bit of vouching for him but things went well. What I did not expect was the big pile of gems he brought out! THAT WAS FUCKING COOL OF HIM! It seems he learned a lot about us the past year but that is to be expected in my opinion.
Last thing he mentioned after refusing sex from the local prostitutes (seriously I know not everyone is as horny as risuners but I think this guy actually hates getting laid) was to remind me of the fortifications. I remember asking all the local risuners to evacuate behind the fort so we would have a real border and I want them to be safe behind it. I only wish that they listened to me or at least are safe. As much as it pains to to see forests being cleared if we must do it then we must do it. Simple as that. I would much rather see trees being chopped down then my people being raped any day.

I dare anyone to try and falseflag as the /meat/heads
no seriously
Why havent anyone falseflagged as them? It's always OG and ri2ner being the crash dummies

>>31003072
bitches wish they were me. I get sex unlike the basement dwelling virgins that are my falseflaggers. Rent free in their heads

>>31003072
schizos tend to avoid mimicking people with silly, non serious writing styles, nanora. Since /meat/heads are known for being calm and levelheaded, they can't wear their skin as well as others.

>>31003072
Rrat: /meat/haeds are actually too well adjusted that schizos can't get into the head space to falseflag as them

>>31003194
How would a /meat/ schizo look like in this world anyway?

>>31003185
>>31003194
on that thought, what are the writing styles of all 5 cabal members?

>>31003072
no one would fuckign beleive someone to be real if he stirs up shit and then proclaims themselves a /meat/head

>>31003277
gomianon...

>>31002990
>>31002879
I feel like mepper and you see commodus totally differently. Like mepper has him as an intelligent curious guy that has a genuine friendship with commodus while you just make it seem like “ah, whatever”.

>>31003583
I think that's just OG being OG

>>31003583
Mepper has a better grasp of the characters than OG, who is writing as an outsider to this. Cant blame OG.

>>31003583
I am REALLY bad at showing emotions. If I wanted to show what he was thinking in depth it would require a lot more than a simple log. I would have to make a full story and truth be told I don't see myself with that amount of autism. Doesn't help that english was always my worst subject in school and I always sucked at writing in general. The idea was later on I wanted commodus to open up to him especially after ch.3 but if I failed to portray that well then fuck me

>>31003780
I think you need to re read what Mepper did as Maumigny isnt even the type to want to play hero. He just does. I am sure he explained the sex shit to him already too.

>>31003780
OG... do you see how i type? and even if people praise my stories, they are full of bad writing and could never stand up to actually decently written stories

just have fun with it.

>>31003949
Ill finish chapter 5 just because im on a roll. If things need to be edited then I will do that later. Still got an hour or so before i get my ass to bed.

>>31003949
To clarify, Mepper has made some vital things go on off screen that we can tell (hell his last chapter didnt have the marquis or commodus.) I think it is a good idea to just roll with that. You can always ask him how to do things better or me.

>>31002990
>designated cum zone
It's like pajeets, but fun...

>>31003279
>paragraphsanon
this one is obvious. fixed cases, long sentences. all in a single paragraph
difficulty: very hard
>meatbro/map anon
he's a robot. he types like a robot. he knows so many shit like a robot. hates socposting and RPs.
difficulty: very hard
>founder
his writing is casual and calm. but he still carries that similar controlling aura as the other cabal. uses a trip for mascot/cheerleader reasons
difficulty: hard
>climateanon
same as meatbro
doffocilty: very hard
>other cabal members
no idea. if any exist they havent developed a profile strong enough to mimic. even if you proclaim yourself as a cabal their hivemind will single you out
duffocilty: uhhhhh

>>31004201
Its interesting to see Pomeranian Drill Instructors and officers appear around the world, mhm has them, risu has them, warkop, 2434, mep etc.

>>31004224
Yes each village both big and small have designated cum zones. Think of love hotels but smaller and much simpler in design. Also as sound proof as soundproof technology would be for unga bungas.

>>31004274
>same as meatbro
What if-

>>31004424
all of that is worthless tho if they cannot teach about the battlefield of love.

Onobots need a Drill Instructor for that, they are fighting a losing battle and first casualties have already shwon up

>>31003583
Idk, kinda rings true as to how a European would see his relationship with a native vs how the native would see... Unreliable narrators, am I right?

>>31004424
Fuck spam:

>>31004274
>founder
>controlling aura
does he?

>>31003072
What about deadbeats?

While we could talk about sniffing dirty socks all day. Or we can talk about how to farm in the savanna. I have an idea that I hope doesn't really alter climate too much. What if the tropical savanna in the upper indie continent has a giant aquifer underground like the North American Great Plains? If the savanna where /vrt/ is at has a wet spring and fall then it might be possible to maintain an aquifer. It could also be the results of a thawed ice age in the past.

>>31004957
Wouldnt the avaliablity harm the Kingdom, like if its enemies were drilled this way,

>>31005247
Nope. It is easy to mimic a drill and even be trained in it. But Pomerania keeps her best sons at home and you cannot teach hundreds of years of tradition.

>>31005334
Its like if Pomerania built a massive fleet the size of 2434 or morig. It still would be inferior solely because of the lack of tradition that comes from hundreds of years.

>40 lashes
That seems so cruel holy fuck. Was that actually a thing, especially in that quantity?

>>31005910
only 40?

>>31006177
ONLY 40!?

>>31005120
Something like Middle East with barley?

Commodus logs ch.5

Ah, a month later. My boi Maumigny came back to my home with more soldiers and guns. Apparently he got more fancy medals and ribbons and stuff with a new rank. Good for him he kicks ass.
And he better get to kicking some ass because now not only are we getting raided, the fuckers are setting up shop in our nation too. At least they built the fort for us so when we take it its less work for us. And more meat for Panrong's geese chamber.
It was at the rebel camp that I finally understood the foolishness of some risuners. I will always have risuner pride but some of us are honestly just stupid. Why wouldn't that guy just accept his help. Strength in numbers especially when we have FUCKING CANNONS!
It was then that I saw that even the most "professional" men can crack under pressure or certain words. Never saw him so pissed before but my god that was a sight. Can't really say anything about thr risuner though, he definitely had it coming. There is a difference between confidence and stupidity. And overconfidence is a form of stupidity.

(after the attack)
As much as it pained me to sit back and watch Maumigny made a really good point. We really need to learn to work together if we are going to deal with this problem. So I sat there and watched this failure of an attack only hoping that it would succeed. But of course it failed and I am disappointed but not surprised.
Once we got back to camp they finally got some sense knocked into them. And what do you know we actually beat the fuckers. Sure it took an hour but we suffered next to no casualties and they got slaughtered. Any ones remaining would eventually feed the chamber geese after interrogation and looting them of weapons and such.

Maumigny was hurt pretty bad during the fight though. Hell I thought he was gonna die right there. Guy is one tough motherfucker. While I was visiting him he told me of some grand plan to make a risuner army with muskets who can fight properly. I don't really have words for what to think. All I can think of is how long it will take for us to rid ourselves of these pests. Every day we take doing this is a day risuners are beign abused and killed by terrorists.
I only wish things could speed up but I know how the world works and that soon it will work out.

(secret shit)
Back at Panrong I was awarded the privalege to meet with the risuner witches that are only known in kids stories. Turns out they are very real and that the gems are used in magic. Now it all makes sense why so many obsess over shiny rocks. They tell me about how they recently discovered that diamonds can be used as an extremely powerful bomb an that they have extremely few in reserve. As much as it makes sense to plant them in gemtrees to multiply them we need those prismatic bombs NOW so that is up for debate in the witches settlement.
If another attack or occupation of that scale is seen again within our borders after the forts are done then I have been granted permission to use prismatic bombs. But it MUST be for large targets only. If only we had more of those diamonds. I know risuners are super busy trying to get them from /morig/ right now and I wish them luck. It sucks I'm forbidden from telling Maumigny any of this but I kind of want to see his face when a massive array of colors vaporizes hundreds of men in seconds. Well that will be decided soon I am sure.

Welp im off to bed. Hope you like my surprise twist at the end of ch.5. Ill have to look at stuff later on tomorrow and hopefully catch up so I can work on other shit. NIGHT FUCKERS

>>31006853
I was thinking of a wetter savanna. /vrt/ is by the sea and its north is humid suptropical. Though the ocean's got a warm current. Maybe its more like a Brazillian savanna than an African one.

>>31007848
I love Commodus kek. Looking forward to the magic bombs.

>>31008141
So like pic related? The Cerrado
Results show millet, sorghum, and maize

>>31009952
I think it depends on where the rivers and bodies of water are. /vrt/'s savanna is interesting because there's nothing quite like it in our world. The cooler subtropic air of the north will bring rains. Unlike other savannas /vrt/ is surrounded by warm ocean. Which means humidity from water vapor. /vrt/ will become dry in the colder winter months. Late spring, summer, and early fall should be pretty wet. The premise of this region is an anomaly based on surface level research. From what I gather it would be more grassland than dusty dry savanna. There's still risk of dusty dry seasons though.

Onobots should be lucky. They found a home in the world that's one of a kind with unique flora and fauna. Still have to research if its useful for farming without modern fertilizer. Also its crazy how much corn we have in the world because corn was exclusive to the Americas until Age of Exploration.

>>31011249
If I have a tally for every corn producing nation in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qp3ITVqY0

>>31011249
This is a corn thread.

>>31012224
>>31012414
Eh its alright. In Vitubia corn grows everywhere. We probably have thousands of species of corn. Including blue corn and sea corn.

>>31011249
>Also its crazy how much corn we have in the world because corn was exclusive to the Americas until Age of Exploration
One anomaly in this world, thanks to its status as a website analogy, is that there has been some form of global interaction since Year 1
The moment jannies created /vt/, everyone still has knowledge and maps of the world
Global trade and exchange was able to start again post-recovery

>>31012414
yum, cornbeat

>>31012717
But I want my banana corn and cornberry species.

>>31012414
Mmm, kinky cornbeat....

>>31012912
>>31012742
Butter me up and eat my cream corn.

>>31012717
Alternatively we can still have some leeway in terms of the history of the immediate post-calamity era. Trade would be limited as trade routes are being re-established, infrastructures are being slowly built up again and technology starting to develop from its pre-calamity state in /jp/. The interaction between threads can be represented as those who were displaced far away from what their original nation/tribe already was. Population movements, slow conversion and such eventually made most nations pretty homogenous in their religious and ethic/race makeup in the current era. The communicators can also be an old technology from /jp/, with threads such as /hlgg/ and its splits still having limited contact despite the vast distance.

>>31012885
*hits you with a brick* BAD BOY!!! BAD!!!

>>31013122
Anytime you sexy thing. Your place or mine?

>>31013284
Yours, unless you want to sleep in a field of 8 feet tall densely packed stalks.

>>31013122
>eat my cream corn
>skull made out of corn
>is a cornbeat
hello from /meat/

>>31013411
Mate I'm a farm boy. It wouldn't be the first time. Pretty comfy as well, once the leaves warm up.

>>31013559
Fun fact. I live in a rural suburb.
>Sanalites are the best farmers.

>>31013127
We've agreed that /jp/-era knowledge is perfectly preserved and travel between worlds would allow discrepancies to be fixed
But what about technology?
Wouldnt there still be instructions to contstruct advanced /jp/-era technologies?
Also two plot holes(?)
1. why do we still have 'authority bad' tribes like Risu when it's been like a thousand years?
2. Why are we forming connections and diplomacy now when we already have crossposters before?

OK so beside the weird ERP(?) with cornbeat what should we talk about now that dead hours are upon us? I'm kinda in the mood for some spec bio we will forget and throw away before the day is over.

>>31014307
Sorry, I'm out of cornbeat pics, so that's all the ERP(?) you get out of that plotline.
I was thinking about the ecosphere of the Moriji hydrothermal vents though. I've got picrel, iron-scaled snails, steel exoskeleton crabs and lobsters, and now I'm wondering what kind of fish or other non-crustacean/mollusk would be thematic.

>>31013411
deadbeats make do...

>>31014307
Alien corn species would be a start. We haven't have much spec bio stuff for flora yet.

>>31014621
literally pokemon

>>31014198
Silly anon, the end state of humanity is a perfect libertarian state where authoritarian are abhorred universally.

>>31014621
Corn-posting aside what's the bottom of the food chain in the vents? Since the volcano is active think we can get chemosynthesizing plant-like organisms?

>>31014198
Yeah now you got me thinking
civilization had time to recover and it's been 1130 years
why would people suddenly send out exploration missions now?

>>31014950
How about chemosynthesizing fungi?

>>31014950
Ah, of course! Tubeworms, how could I forget about them, they even already use mineralization, so they're right on topic. Good brainwave.
>>31015116
America was discovered in 1492, the HoloEmpire around 0 VTE is considered to have had a tech level somewhat similar to the Roman Empire, potentially with loss of technological advancements in the centuries following the splitting of the boards.

>>31015254 (me)
>inb4 vikings found it earlier etc
You know what I mean shut up nerd

>>31014198
Depends on how advanced the technology actually are in /jp/. But just because people have the knowledge the environment, societal factors might prevent or make them choose to not pursue the same thing as the old empire which ruled over them. And there's also how much authority did it really exerted on the nations, the people and how much did those infrastructure and technology impacted their life. The style of rule also matters a whole lot. Was the empire only loosely ruling the lands, demanding tributes and allegiance? Or else?

>>31015192
Its possible it could be a lichen-like organism. It uses vent gasses to turn into sugar and oxygen to sustain itself while the fungi parts let it dig into rock. Some Fungi secrete an acid that lets their "roots" dig into rock by dissolving it. The lichen is also tasty to mini arthopods from pillbugs to mini crabs. That said if there's light from the surface and enough water then you'll grow a lush cave no problem.

>>31015396(me)
>>31013127(me)
>>31014198
Also for the individual nations it really should be the decision for the writers. There's always exceptions in history and the trend I talked about is just, a trend. OGsuner can always make up a reasonable excuse for why /risu/ was isolated for so long.

The time scale is something everyone can work on though. Which I think is one of the reasons /who/rep is so reluctant at making diplomatic relations because we still haven't gotten the detailed history down.

>>31015713
Well, that and the timescale is kinda fucked.

>>31015843
Why?

>>31015905
an IRL week would be like multiple In-Universe years or some shit, so up until the point where a year was decided hundreds of years had passed or something, too fast.

>>31016187
The threads don't have to follow the timescale used to figure out the current year rigidly. That's just the number of years since the dimension change, but threads can have their own history start when they want.

>>31015254
>vents become like a coral lava reef.
I hope there's lots of crystals and glass.
https://youtu.be/9utFNqhJUgY

>>31016187
>>31016438
every thread is a week's time?

my headcanon.
Maybe the foundation of /vtwbg/ should the reason why connections are happening. Formal connections
People have been making trade and diplomacy over the centuries but they were all on a limited scale.
Circumnavigation never happened because people already have the full map. Why bother go out and explore the world when we already have records from the old age
Then a group of Marco Polo/Columbus/Al-Battuta style adventurers went out to travel the world for real and realized just how badly outdated knowledge has been
Globalisation exists but it's been a game of telephone.
KFP heard of /who/ from /hlgg/ diplomats, but /hlgg/ diplomats never went there and details muddled up. Cross-continental details are even more muddy. /hlgg/ knows vague knowledge of /vsj/ from nijien diplomats who have basic knowledge from 2434 traders who only visited the-once still superpower 774 who only bordered vsj
some nations still believed 774 is a superpower like back in the /jp/ days not knowing the continent fell to EN corpo barbarians
Because of this the adventurers founded /vtwbg/. An organization that tries to establish a formal global connection to clean up all outdated and incorrect knowledge of the world

>>31016799
No, you can date your thread's events however you want. If you have any inter-thread events you should probably coordinate with them, and the generals that are newer should probably get their "identity" as this thread more recently than older ones, but this isn't a strict rule.
A really rigid, IRL time conversion timescale would put a lot of constraints on worldbuilding, which is why we didn't go for that.
>>31016841
I dig it!

>>31016707
Damn, that's kino, nasarep, what a banger.

>>31016841
>Circumnavigation never happened because people already have the full map. Why bother go out and explore the world when we already have records from the old age
sounds dope! and a subversion of the usual 'lost knowledge' trope. Global civ became ignorant because we already have all the maps and knowledge carried over from /jp/. We already have a globe and know every nation in the world so why bother? Focus on recovery after the jannies sent us flying. But said ignorance brought about isolationism and apathy towards the neighbors especially since people travel and power change hands. Combine that with schizos and other esoteric threats like nations going nuclear after their chuuba died and the zeitgeist of 'why bother' became prominent
Which would explain why a big superpower like 774 just collapsed and nobody bat an eye

>>31016841
i like this, but what about threads that interacted with each other before /vtwbg/ that are distant on the map? maybe some threads knew it before it became common knowledge?

>>31017363 (me)
>ignorance brought about isolationism and apathy towards the neighbors
>zeitgeist of 'why bother'
I just realized. We already have the perfect term for this cultural phenomenon; Containment and Containment Breaking

>>31016438
Not really, threads are inclined to start their history in the year relative to board age, /jidf/ can't really start their history before one like /pcg/ for example. Of course, we can always disregard everything with a "don't worry about it" but that breaks the point of having a timeframe in the first place

>>31017464
Probably private affairs undocumented by the authorities. Plenty existed
Like how the Basques went fishing in the New World and Iceland, the Beringian migrations of Dene people, barbaries raiding Iceland, the Pope and Axum, holy pilgrimages that span entire continents like muslims from Central Asia going all the way to Egypt

>>31017598
Well, the main point of having a timeframe is to be able to place a date on stuff at all. I agree that ideally the threads would place their start date about where they should, but realistically all those parts of the world were already settled, it's not like the nation pops into existence, like a general does. The "history start" of a thread could perhaps be when the nation kind of figures out its identity, like Germany uniting, the USA seceding, a monarchy being established. But the region would have history prior to that.

>>31017518
very creative. this is why i like this thread.
>>31017598
i agree with this. we can be flexible in some regards but treating everything like it doesn't matter destroys some of the continuity of the setting. people being lazy and not bothering to figure out how to properly represent their thread doesn't seem like much of a justification to me to completely disregard a timeline.
>>31017759
ya, that's kind of in line with my thoughts.

>>31017940
>it's not like the nation pops into existence, like a general does.
why not? nations have beginnings, too. even newfags from twitter have an allusion in universe to a degree. a general has more or less the same life cycle as a nation depending on how you look at it.

>>31017759 (me)
>>31017999
Left out some missing infos like Mali sailing west to Amazonia, the possible Ming exploration of the Pacific, and other weird theories like
https://www.theguardian.com/science/1999/nov/28/archaeology.uknews

Anyway, I know I said we should talk about spec biology or some shit, but I'm out with my friends rn and pleasantly drunk and. I just need to say there is nothing I wouldn't give to cuddle with cutiegoon rn. Like fuck man, I'm horny as all hell.

>>31018214
Well, in the Antiquity, nations did kind of just appear, as a large city counted as a nation. But in the late Middle-ages onwards, nations are large enough that pretty much all "new" nations are just the territory changing allegiance while its population remains similar.
Like, take /jidf/. Sure, the "nation" of /jidf/ would be fairly recent. But the population of a country of this size couldn't just appear, it would have to have existed beforehand, and decided to start calling itself /jidf/. See what I mean?

>>31018214
Not that anon but things don't just happen without reason. people don't just one day get together and say let's form a country. There will be resistance, talks cooperation. These people are still people even if they are fictional

>>31018551
The population would just be from other nations. Reflects crossposters
Or pilgrims and conversions. Reflects anons looking for new oshis

>>31018708
Three issues with that, first, it doesn't make sense that large expanses of habitable land would remain unsettled like that. Second, such large immigration movements are not really plausible. Third, this doesn't represent newfags who weren't on the board already.
I think it might be better to have the population who lived in a land before the general existed represent people who are in the vtuber popular culture sphere but aren't on /vt/ yet. Of course there is also migrants and conversions, all those phenomena are happening in parallel.

in summary, pre-/vtwbg/ there were already knowledge and some levels of private cross-continental globalisation but with 80% of the world being isolationist and divided by schizos we had a unique kind of Dark Age?

>>31017999
Fun fact the Basques were very very very VERY *thiiiisss* close to discover the New World before the Vikings did
They were just content with fishing off the coast

>>31018556
this but replace country with thread.
>>31018551
new cultures form that lead to the changing or succeeding of nations from one another sometimes.
>>31018918
>Third, this doesn't represent newfags who weren't on the board already.
new generations. no need to overcomplicate things. /vt/ is /vt/. if they were on twitter before, they didn't exist in this setting, or this universe at all. whether or not they came from another realm is up to them, but they shouldn't be in /vt/ unless they are in /vt/.
>>31019152
>before the Vikings did
>/vtwbg/ is what broke the isolationism
>stealth /meat/ thread

>>31019295
Hmm, if people from off-site won't work, what if they represented anons who were on /vt/ but not on any particular thread? Catalogfags, basically.

>>31019295
What if the adventurers party that travelled the world has a majority /meat/ membership to reflect Founder, map-anon, and other stealth-/meat/ incidents

>>31019416
i would prefer avoiding encouraging namefags, but aspects of culture can be influenced by anons. for example, even though rose-anon was initially doing stuff for /meat/, he ended up repping /rose/ since he is one of the /meat/buds on those threads. as a result, he represented some parts of his culture as being /meat/ adjacent, even if not necessarily being from /meat/ itself. with that said, absolutely no avatar/namefagging please.
>>31019457
ya, that's basically my suggestion. maybe the search for more unique peoples to share a meal with (in more ways than one) inspired /meat/ to search out for more cultures outside their own. maybe that's why we have so many allies and agents everywhere. remember, it took a while for people to realize some of us were from /meat/, so we probably sent undercover traders as spies to decide whether or not some areas were susceptible to be raided even before we started focusing more on trade as a way to get our long pigs. idk though. others should chime in before i say anything more.

>>31020023
Might have mixed up the replies?

>>31020107
who?

>>31020142
My detective work indicates one of the posts you meant to reply to was >>31019295 and you also swapped the two reply posts.

>>31020237
your detective work could use some touching up. i don't have any reason to reply to myself, and i was replying to >>31019416 under the assumption that he was responding to my reply to >>31018918 and i was replying to >>31019457 under the assumption that he was responding to my reply to >>31019152. one was about people not from 4chan (off-site) that turned into a conversation about namefags, the other was about /meat/ representation in the mapping of the world.

>>31020496
>i don't have any reason to reply to myself, and i was replying to under the assumption that he was responding to my reply to and i was replying to under the assumption that he was responding to my reply
bro?

>>31020496
Anon, I fail to see how
>i would prefer avoiding encouraging namefags, but aspects of culture can be influenced by anons. for example, even though rose-anon was initially doing stuff for /meat/, he ended up repping /rose/ since he is one of the /meat/buds on those threads. as a result, he represented some parts of his culture as being /meat/ adjacent, even if not necessarily being from /meat/ itself. with that said, absolutely no avatar/namefagging please.
responds to >>31019416. There is no mention of namefags in this reply chain.

>>31020684
welcome newfag. i am known for my run on sentences, just ignore it and ask for clarification if you need help please.
>>31020705
i took catalogfag to refer to the specific repless namefags in this thread, such as nuefag and the guy from /tg/ etc. if he means something else, so be it, but i don't know what he is trying to represent besides that, or why he is bringing it up. maybe i should have asked.

>>31020858
Catalogfags are just anons who browse the catalog, without really having a "home" thread.

>>31020684
>i was responding to x under the assumption that he was responding to y
>and i was responding to z under the assumption that he was responding to w.
>>31020918
ya. lurkers who are invisible and thus inconsequential, and repless namefags. if they post and they don't have any way to identify themselves, they are just random people who pop up every now and then, like roaming traders, not even tribes because a tribe is a community, and those guys don't have a thread to call their own. remember, nations here represent threads. i would prefer avoiding anything involving namefags.

>>31021193
Yeah, what I'm saying is that if /jidf/ was founded in 800 VTE (just pulled that number out of my ass, it's incorrect), some of the population of /jidf/ would be made up of those tribal people that lived there before 800 VTE. You can see it as some of the anons who previously did not have a home thread adopting /jidf/ as their home thread.
Also, anon, I haven't mentioned namefags this whole time, I'm not involving namefags.

>>31021458
the more i try to figure out what you meant, the less i understand it. were you trying to suggest that the natives that existed on /vt/ before /vt/ officially existed in terms of the timeline should represent either off-siters and/or lurkers? why do the natives have to represent anyone at all? they existed before /vt/ existed. it was a clean slate, full of opportunity as far as we are concerned. better that way desu. i am sorry if i misunderstood you, i just don't understand what you are trying to do.

>>31022537
No, let's restart from the beginning, things confused with that mix up in the middle.

Consider a new thread which appears on /vt/. We've been using the example of /jidf/.
Let's say /jidf/ appeared in 800 VTE.
What was in /jidf/'s territory before 800 VTE? /vt/ did exist, it had existed for 800 years, but /jidf/ didn't exist.
What I am saying is that before 800 VTE, there tribal people representing lurkers, anons who just browse catalog thread, anons who don't have a home thread, in the region of /jidf/.
Once /jidf/ was founded in 800 VTE, these people, alongside migrants, came together and formed the population of /jidf/.

From what I can gather about pre-UN /vt/
>Isolationist Dark Age
- Unanimously after the split and collapse, 90% of the world adopt a similar policy of 'Containment'; Hyper isolationism and apathy towards everyone outside their borders
- Factors of adopting Containment includes lack of innovation thanks to abundance of /jp/-era knowledge, autarky, chuubanite related disasters wiping away a nation overnight, and malicious esoteric beings such as schizos and custodians
- Those who attempt to trade with foreigners or establish contact with foreigners are regarded as 'Containment Breakers' or '/unity/fags'
- Knowledge of the world at large existed as legacy from the /jp/-era
- Because people still have maps of the nations and cultures from the /jp/ era, there was no need to go out and explore, circumnavigation never happened since there is already a perfectly working globe on your desk
- However this world is not an exact 1:1 replica of /jp/ so some continents are different, and the culture that used to border you was exiled somewhere else during the Split
- Combined with Containment policies, this led to extreme and widespread knowledge 'lag'
- Some civs still believed that 774 is a superpower like during the /jp/ days
- Some civs do not even care that their neighbor had just split up into 2 or 3 more independent kingdoms
- Schizo raids and warbands, Custodian 'Containment Enforcement', and dead gods causing chuubanite to go nuke are more reasons to not go out
>Minimal Globalization
- Some level of global interactions do exist but they're small scaled and non-intrusive on foreign cultures
- Global trade, immigration-emigration, pilgrimages exist
- International events exist such as Holofightz and Divegrass
- In fact those events are the only time the people of the world update their knowledge on their foreign contacts, before going back into isolationism
- Exchange of knowledge and technology do not happen
>Knowledge Dark Age
- /jp/-era knowledge remarkably preserved, including those on advanced philosophies and technologies in more urban regions
- Some cultures chose to start over as hunter-gatherers or agrarians, citing everything /jp/ related as the reason the Custodians kicked us out
- As interdimensional travel back to /jp/ was possible, apathy towards development happen as there's no need to rush when we still have our more advanced brothers back in the primordial home such as /jp/!hlgg being a much more advanced sibling of /vt/!hlgg
- /jp/ travel would also allow for better preservation of knowledge as getting researchers and citations to prove facts from fiction is easy
- tldr the world collapsed post-split but because knowledge and access to them are still available the drive to innovate goes away
>Technology
- While knowledge is preserved, the means of crafting advanced technologies is lost after the apocalypse
- You cannot build hyper magic weapons and vehicles if all the mines are abandoned and artificers have no materials to work on
- Isolationism also means that the materials you need are in the borders of kingdoms and theocracies that won't trade them away
- Some /jp/-era civs like Robosans were able to keep advanced techs like robotics but isolationism policies have led to decline of society
- Some newcomer civilziations like Kronies were able to get /jp/-era tech running at a fraction of what they are meant, such as developing clockpunk when trying to restore steam engines
>A Call for /unity/
- A group of adventurers decided to go out and explore the world ala Leif Eriksson, Ibn Battuta, Marco Polo, and Ferdinand Magellan
- Discover how badly outdated and irrelevant existing knowledge is
- /774/ has fallen to EN barbarians creating /pcg/ and /vsj/, /hlgg/ has fractured into splits to the point some of them reverted to tribes, and more
- Some continents and nations that was on the /jp/ maps used don't even exist (what the hell even is Gensokyo? or JAV?), further cementing that this world is different than thought
- Adventurers establish /vtwbg/ as an attempt to mend this problem
- This is exactly analogous to IRL Renaissance-Enlightenment movements which making this setting Discovery Era much more fitting
- But instead of 'Discovering the New World' it is about 'Rediscovering What The World Is'

>>31022770
so that was what i thought when i read >>31021458 but then i tried to read the other posts with that context and it didn't seem to work. are you both >>31019416 and>>31018918? anyways, ya, preexisting culture explains any change of culture. pretty sure we agreed to this around the time when we were still formalizing the map and boarders. no need to be specific about "tribes" or who they represent in universe. lurkers aren't represented at all in this setting. cross-threaders like cunt (was /nasa/, /nasa/ died, now /mans/) new generations, successionists, as i said before, the life cycle of a thread is pretty close to that of a nation, we don't need to think of anything clever when most of the terminology is a one-for-one equivalent of whatever actually happened in-thread.
btw, lurkers aren't just people without a home thread. they are people who don't post at all. they don't have any presence on any thread anywhere, which is why they wouldn't have any presence on /vt/. if every single /jidf/ poster was a lurker before the first /jidf/ thread came into being, they're a new, radically different generation of something that existed before, maybe even the product of a paradigm shift. consider how many democracies existed before the enlightenment vs after.

>>31006177
You know how much lashes actually are right? Proper lashes?

>>31023543
>>31005910
>>31006232
Same energy

>>31023453
Kino /meat/bro history.

>>31023478
Maybe lurkers are the silent majority in the population?
They exist but dont want to get involved

>>31023478
Hmm... You know, I'm not sure that lurkers shouldn't be represented. Do anons stop existing if they stop posting? What about an anon who posts once a month?
If anon posts in a forest, but no one saw him post, did he really post?

>>31023453
>the world collapsed but because knowledge and access to them are still available and abundant the drive to innovate goes away
Hmmm... Are there any other works like this? Dune and 40K doesnt count because they censored out of fear of repeating the same mistake (Men of Iron uprising/Butlerian Jihad)

>>31023662
lurkers are phantoms. they don't exist. representing them at all is impossible. how large is the silent majority in /ggg/? how about in /morig/? are they strong enough to inflate the size of their population, or are they small? are non-lurkers more vocal? what happens if there is a system that forces all of their citizens into a draft? all of the citizens except the lurkers for some reason?
>>31023756
hence why i brought up namefags. anons can influence cultures, but individual anons should not be represented in the nation. if they posted before, they influenced culture, but they aren't influencing culture while they are not posting. the changes they made stay even if they out right leave the thread, but those changes are represented by how the culture that are active responds to them. lurkers never influenced culture. they haven't created any ripples in thread culture at all, so they aren't represented at all. how do we represent samefags? do we have to? unless they admit to being samefags they influence culture as if they were two separate people, so that is how they are represented. it's easy.

>>31024100
>>31023756
>>31023478
>>31022770
I think you two are overanalyzing everything
Not everything, like lurkers, need definition

>>31024186
Well, yes, but it's dead hours and I'm bored.
I should go back to writing...

>>31023644
Thanks. Im bad at making small scoped detailed writing like Panon. But I really love doing big picture interconnected theories

>>31024186
it's good to think about it regardless. overanalyzing is fun for us, and we aren't exactly harming anyone here. figuring out how we should represent things is being productive since we want these things to represent real-world dynamics. i agree lurkers shouldn't be represented, though.

>>31024278
>>31024219
I get that it's fun but eventually you'll hit rabbitholes like IP, post limit, bumps, sage, and image limit
Please dont take it as a challenge

>>31024267
I think this kind of thing is really good at encouraging creativity for other anons, I kinda want to write a vignette for my nation for each of those periods, since it's been there since the split.

>>31024364
Post limits are population control, sterilization, image limit is autodafé...

>>31024386
I mean, the reason Janies created /vt/ was in response to the creation of Holo EN and its inevitable destruction of /jp/ culture
Which I am planning to include in the annals.
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatannals
FIG 2 is going to represent a 'riot so big between Vtuber fans and 2hu fans it turned night to day and triggered every Custodian on the planet'

>>31024417

>>31024364
idiot, now we have to discuss stuff like that. someone wrote a story about all the consecutive bumps i posted at dead hours, and we were already thinking about how to represent how long it takes a thread to reach bump-limit in the past, but i agree, until we find something interesting and accurate to relate something to, we should leave that stuff alone.

>>31024471
Oh... not the 2hus...
Gonna be kino anon, I'm excited for it.
>>31024512
kek

>>31024471
>the riot between vtuberfags and 2hufags was so big it turned night to day and caused an apocalypse
my... my knees...

>>31024580
i was unironically on the side of the 2hus back then. i do not regret it, we belong on /vt/, even if i am ok with going back to /jp/ for a while every now and then when mods are faggots over here

>>31024605
>>31024580
In hindsight this sounds like a kino creation myth
>humanity dabbed on the precursor race so hard they had to create an entire new dimension to keep us out
2hu genocide sounded funny to us but in-universe it was apocalyptic

>>31024687
I agree it was the right move, with how much the communities have grown, we definitely needed our own board.
I'd lie if I said I didn't draw some chaotic enjoyment out of the disruption caused by chuuba threads on /jp/ though...
>>31024784
Yeah exactly! The idea of the chuuba people invasion messing with the japonians so much they executed a world-ending ritual to split the dimensions apart is fucking cool.

It's moment like these that makes this project so surreal.
Something so mediocre like HoloEN announcement triggering a japanese bullet hell forum can be seen as an apocalyptical event that birth creation myths and eldritch horrors

>>31024850
>Vtubian civillian watching the 10th weekly nuking of Gensokyo

>>31025190
>Vtubian civilian receiving his bi-weekly Gensokyan POW.

>>31025190
>>31025252
a-are we the baddies?

>>31025317
Anon... We're the endless hordes of uncultured newfags, triumphing through sheer numbers and disregard for the enemy. Of course we are the baddies.

So how apocalyptical are we making the 2hu Genocide Incident?
WW3 level or Horus Heresy level?

>>31025556
How it actually went down? World War.
How it was recorded? WH 30k.

>>31025556
I guess the genocide itself was world war like, and the splitting of dimensions that ended it is where shit got metaphysically wacky.

>>31025631
"And so the WarMaster ̶H̶o̶r̶u̶s̶ Holosanji called upon a bombardment from the Heavens. And Gensokyo burns for 100 Days & 100 Nights."

>>31025714
You know what would be even more badass?
The War was still raging when the Custodians start splitting the world.
As the magic armies of /jp/ and /vt/ fought in the battlefield, out there in the far distance you can see a group of Custodians dragging a huge mountain range sized blade of light

>>31026204
>Board Genesis-class Custodian appears

>>31025252
>at least she isn't handed to /meat/

>>31023453
I'm a little yiffy in the whole advanced technology bit. I feel like even though the /jp/-chuuba fans conflict should have some mythical elements to it, depending on the actual history of /jp/ both sides might not process the technology you are thinking. /jp/ likely did not have chuubanite steam engines, and the use of it both in practice and theorized use of it was purely a post-calamity thing. Alternatively the potency and effects of chuubanite could also be different across the dimensions. /jp/ chuubanite was "unfiltered", getting it's power directly from the chuuabs. /vt/ chuubanite's true power was party used to maintain the system that the jannies have set up, maybe a dimensional fence to keep any large scale invasion back to /jp/ or it was used to maintain the catalog and its balance. Or maybe the jannies feed on the chuuabnite's true power, so it has an incentive to keep the denizens of /vt/ in check.

>>31026409
back then /meat/ was just the shady cult without any proper nation
Mentioning Akira/ryonaxlove is like saying Bloody Mary and Macbeth. The boogeyman that kept people up at night. Surely no such vtuber exist? Do they?

Gm!!!! Another day another slay!!!!

>>31026495
Hi! Antediluvian discussion atm

>>31026453
I think the potency of chuubanite being different would make a lot of sense. In /jp/, it was more powerful, and allowed more advanced technology to be made easily, after the splitting of the boards, technology fell apart because it all depended on high-power chuubanite, resulting in the above-mentioned Dark Age.

>>31026453
>>31026561
Also not everything has to be chuubanite
Before the first community of Oyabun Ai appeared, /jp/ was already a modern era realm with advanced technology.
Trains, mechs, etc

>>31026630
If there was an easy to use and powerful source of energy like chuubanite (perhaps in /jp/ it was called japonite?), I feel like these would be japonite-powered trains and mechs.

>>31026537
I backread a bit but I still couldn't understand what exactly are you guys talking about in the antediluvian period!!!!!

>>31026735
It's probably a rather obscure discussion without a lot of background on the history of /jp/ and /vt/. When did you start browsing the board anon?

>>31026561
If we are going with that route maybe also make it so /jp/ chuuabnite had more fantastical uses. Helps with why the record became so exaggerated in the perspective of the current Vitubians.
But I'm still more for the more grounded proposal with some magic that helps explain the scale.

>>31026630
I don't know how to describe it but I'm fundamentally against /jp/ having more advanced tech than the early Victorian era Europe. And it doesn't make sense? /jp/ was an 2hu board. Not familiar with the franchise but isn't 2hu abut yokais? Having mechs is eheeee?

>>31026630
So /jp/'s cannot use chuubanite? Make sense
>>31026707
Maybe there are like your average hard sci-fantasy animu trope where Precure magical girls and symphogear mech girls exist side by side.
/jp/ media like DMM gachas (Kancolle/Dragon Providence/Kamihime Project) would reflect that kind of style. Doesnt necessarily require X-nite and other magic rocks.
...and then the first Vtubian worshipping Kizuna Ai appeared carrying said magic rocks.
So the 2hu Genocide Hyperwar would be between classic anime-JP media tropes of mechs and magical girls against chuubanite users

>>31026833
>Not familiar with the franchise but isn't 2hu abut yokais?
philistine. touhou has mechas and engineering kappa. the boarder allows them to access stuff from the real world, and the lunarians are space nazis.

>>31026833
Well... 2hu does have cannon mechs. But I don't completely disagree with you. I feel like victorian era tech boosted by magitech could be a good aesthetic.
>>31026865
Hmm, what if both chuubanite and japonite exists? Maybe japonite is not a magic rocks, but instead something a bit more ethereal carried by japanians what do people have against magic rocks
The Vitubian magic is powered by chuubanite, while the Japanian magic is powered by japonite, the energy of both comes from their respective Heavenly Realms. Keep all the metaphysics nice and consistent.

>>31026865
>>31026896
Perhaps we should stop rationalizing the /jp/-chuuba fans conflict. Instead focus on how it was told in the present, on Vitubia, and the state the world was in when the people was transported to Vitubia. Finding an explanation of how /jp/ had access to mechs is a lot less inconsequential than figuring out maybe how bump limit is represented in /vt/. Aside from my for a lack of a better word revulsion to this idea. The conflict should be "esoteric" since it was part of the common creation myth/element across Vitubia. So more magic should be the explanation rather than science.

>>31027009
chuubanite and japonite should be literally the same element in different parts of super-space or whatever the quantum-kronii called it. both are connected to the conceptual realm in the same way, but we exist in vtuber subspace, and they exist in weeaboo subspace. the element is the same, but the magic quanta is different.

>>31027107
>>31026865
>>31026896
Perhaps we should stop rationalizing the /jp/-chuuba fans conflict. Instead focus on how it was told in the present, on Vitubia, and the state the world was in when the people was transported to Vitubia. Finding an explanation of how /jp/ had access to mechs is inconsequential caomapred to figuring out maybe how bump limit is represented in /vt/. Aside from my for a lack of a better word revulsion to this idea. The conflict should be "esoteric" since it was part of the common creation myth/element across Vitubia. So more magic should be the explanation rather than science.

>>31027161
But anon, what about my arousal to this idea?
>>31027147
Yep, that's exactly what I wanted to refer to, thank you. I agree.

>>31027107
>>31027161
?

>>31027191
Fixed a sentence, didn't make sense

>>31027186
picrel

>>31026896
Yup.
>>31027009
JPnians are far more advanced with sci-fantasy anime tropes, theyre not just 2hu they have
- VNs: MuvLuv
- LNs: Log Horizon
- JP Gachas: mentioned here >>31026865
It's a matter of quality vs quantity.
While JPnians have your mechs and magical girls that dont require fancy rocks, Vtubians are a legion like >>31025376 said
Your mechs cant do shit when it's raining chuubanite attacks non-stop

>>31027246
So... our ancestors were Orkz?

>>31027246
I do think it would be better if the advanced /jp/ stuff required access to weeaboo magic quanta in some manner, otherwise it makes you wonder why none of this technological knowledge was retained by the Vitubians who were transported to /vt/. Bit of a plothole. If weeaboo magic powered it, it explains why the technology couldn't be used here.
Which doesn't have to take the form of magic rocks btw, it can be less physical. Maybe all japanians were like catalognauts, magic conduits themselves.

>>31027293
>our ancestors were Orkz

>>31027246
You sound like a /jp/ apologist

>>31027458
What the heck? Are there still some of them left on Vitubia? I thought we ate them all?

>>31027513
We kept a few for >>31025252 purposes.

>>31027458
the correct term is '/jp/ symphatizer'
and yes. I frequent the LN and gacha threads before Vtubers happen.
I was there when the LN thread was anticipating the last volume of Log Horizon and I play DMM ero-gachas
My /jp/ ancestors would be disapointed to know their bloodline got kicked out

>>31027383
>>31027147
>the magic quanta is different.
got you covered. different magic quanta means they need to figure out an entirely new magic system, equivalent to the difficulty of figuring out someone else's entire magic system from scratch when they keep it secret in this system. new glyphs, new activator substances, even simply figuring out what their magic system does passively could be a challenge, and with no technology to work with they would have to rely on whatever they had available to write down knowledge from their past that might very well not be useful at all. consider how ability-dependent most forms of chuubanite technology are.

>>31026793
I started using the board around 2015 I think!!!! I was only active on /s4s/ and lurked a bit on /int/!!!!

>>31023453
I quite like this idea.
As for my own thread, I'd see it as follows...

>The Ka-ti Mak
Originally inhabitants of the great /hlgg/ empire, more specifically, they were a caste of merchants within the empire the "BUY" and "SELL" posting, from which NASFAQ got inspired

After the split the Ka-ti Mak were spread all across the world, and they mixed with the local populations. Only in the area where the modern Serene Republic is located a Ka-ti Mak majority existed and the population remained ethnically unchanged.

>Lady Honk
Honk was perhaps originally something like a powerful alchemist and perhaps a catalognaut of the /hlgg/ Empire. After the split she retained some of the knowledge of the Japonian magic and technology.

Lady Honk sought out the Ka-ti Mak, and settled where they lived. There under the Home Island she began building the arcane machinery of the Stock Exchange and its related building's and entities, utilizing her knowledge of the ancient magics in this ordeal

>Devs
Apostles of Honk whom she recruited over the years, teaching them her knowledge (or part of it at least, not even the Devs know how exactly the Stock Exchange works, only Honk does)

The construction under the Home Island continues to this day. None of the locals save for the Dev Council and Honk herself are allowed to see engines and machinery that make it all work.

>Everyone Else
Most of the Serene Republic population migrated from the surrounding areas, mostly from the Holocontinent. They settled the land and soon the descendants of these migrants filled the land, making the Ka-ti Mak a minority in the nation.

>>31027678
Holy shit... Dragoon started using /vt/ five years before it was created, now that's powerful...
Just teasing. But yeah, then you know all the /jp/vt/ going-ons. The QRD is that for /vtwbg/ this is represented as all the population of /vt/ being transported to another dimension by the janitors, a dimension where our planet is similar in lots of way, but also a bit different, mainly because there are no /jp/ threads.
We're currently theorizing that this Splitting of the Boards would have been prompted by a war between the /jp/ anons and those who would become Vitubians.

>>31027629
i was on /jp/ before the shift. i mostly did 2hu stuff desu but i was on a few of the other threads. i still go there every now and then, but i generally keep /vt/ stuff in /vt/.
>>31027678
>/s4s/
>2015
desu, the 2014-2016 crowd are pretty much no longer newfags now, what with the election tourists that came after that taking that title from them. good job.

>>31027629
>My /jp/ ancestors would be disapointed to know their bloodline got kicked out
My son, you are adult now and must choose wife.
Will you pick a pure JP woman who has 100 gravure albums, played Win95 touhou, speaks fluent 日本語 and wrote 500 successful LNs?
or some madwoman raving about chuubas?

>>31027923
The madwoman is probably a better lay, easy choice.

>>31027923
>That son a few years later
https://youtu.be/Cj3ENSVogTo
Vtubian cunny is hella of a drug

>>31028064
Menhera pussy too strong

Bread's baking

Good morning everyone, what have I miss-
>people suggesting we should reflect not just the generals, but boards and site limitations
Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding this

>>31029226
Don't worry anon, dead hour autism stays in the dead hours.
People outside of dead hours don't need to worry about it.

>>31027678
Oldgoon...

>>31029226
Hey wassup vespieBro, you doing better now?

>>31029226
wat

i am sorry for flipping out at the asshole yesterday who tried to tell me i didn't do shit compared to everyone else and that his precious jp was getting screwed, the horror! anyways, whatever.

>>31029472
Comparatively? Absolutely. Here's hoping I can keep dumb stuff like that from becoming a trend.
On a more fun topic,
>>30994777
>>30973855
What do you think of these alternatives for us? I'm personally undecided but I've toyed with some ideas regarding how the old stuff could be implemented on the other island. I think it'd involve a bit more dungeon diving with [The Hole] being a lot closer to settled areas and being a more immediate goal to reach for the nation, or we could go with more of a "single city by the coast with supporting island villages" like on the silly paint.net map I posted

>>31027786
Hey!!!! I didn't start using 4chan just because of /vt/!!!!
I remember there was /hlgg/ in /jp/ before /vt/, right???!!!

>>31027803
I still consider myself a newfriend!!! I didn't go outside the boards I like that much so some references fly over my head!!!!!

>>31029472
Not an oldfriend!!!!

>>31029874
Don't worry /mhm/ rep, we stand with you against the holoJPchama. Monke together strong.

>>31029899
That's good. And don't worry, if it ever reaches boiling point, I will listen to you ramble your heart out anytime.
As for lore, I ain't making the same mistake the 2nd time, sucker. Imma go and play monhun till we are placed on the map and not even think about anything related to /mans/. Nah, can't make me.

>>31029967
One-foot-in-the-gravegoon...

>>31029874
Fuck that HoloJPtribalist, you are good. I am voting for whatever you want.

>>31029899
Don't know if you saw, but climateanon dropped by to say the option you replied is valid with regards to the current ocean currents. I'd really like /wah/ rep to weigh in on this if he comes by.

>>31029874
>Thinking we give a shit about holoJPchama
Nah, fuck him. I was undecided but now fully on your side to rub salt into his eyes.

>>31030276
Anon, could you make judgements based on your own thoughts instead of as reactions to a schizo?

>shameless plug
How did everyone like my history, new flag, updated culture, army etc.
https://rentry.org/lusitania

>>31030087
Fair, mostly just did some surface thought myself to give me some peace of mind that I have avenues regardless of what we get

>>31030337
I am shitposting, kek. Was already on the side of mhm but now it will be more satisfying.

>>31030087
That's mean!!!!!

>>31030383
Don't worry, I still love you even if you are as old as earth itself.
Gonna give you as many cuddles and kisses as you want, despite you being a literal fossil.
Younger dom older sub is hot anyway hehe~

>>31030339
Flag and CoA looks nice even if I want it to have a little more symbolism related to smithing, hearth or fire. But I don't really watch Kaela nor frequent /mhm/ so idk. I also think it might be a missed opportunity to make it more of a mix between European and traditional Indonesian but you might not be able to find the resource online for a more unique design like that.

I will refine mhm more and start brainstorming on V7. Still would like more thoughts about Lusitania in terms of what I did because the tribalist had a point, mans because of what they do gets more attention and is more signifcant to this thread because of that. I would love my stuff to ge talked aobut too.

>>31030500
i wasnt, i looked hard on wappen and other coatof arms things. coa arms to my knowledge are based on family things rather than national.

Here is an good idea, a useful resource rentry to help with nation building with shit like Coat of Arms, Informational pages, etc. I know 3 coat of arms website that are excellent, one is wappen, another is good at centering flags and the last is autism and hard to figure out but rewarding.

>>31030520
The only thing we have over you is time. You are a fewfag, no two ways about it, while vespieBro, and specially me, have been a staple itt for far longer. Don't worry about it, as long as you keep engaging in discussions you will eventually become one of those detestable namefags in some fashion or other, and will be more recognizable and your lore will get talked about. Specially if you decide to be based ans start some timeloops!

>>31030687
no i mean that I need to start shilling my shit more and starting discussion about them. Like I spent a good 4 hours doing the History of Lusitania and nothing was hardly said. I don't like to textblon but just shilling i think would work

>>31030649
agreed! I like this idea a lot!

>>31030587
It's just that the design doesn't really suggest it's a country of smiths. Since it's a monarchy having the CoA of a monarch makes sense. I just think that there could be more Indonesian inspired elements in the visuals and lore. Probably just because I feel like we have a little bit too much European stuff here. But it's kinda inevitable I guess. And I won't force you to write something you are not confident or unknowledgeable about.

>>31030649
This is a good one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements

>>31030764
Oh yea true dat. If you don't actively discuss parts of your lore on here, you will never receive much feedback.

>>31030804
its true but there really wasn't much to go off from. most indo flags are islamic or hindu based. Euro coat of arms are diverse and unique. (there is a rrat that Kaela is half Euro anyways)

Btw baker-san, if the next bread could be wheat bread, that would be nice. Get some seeds to munch on.

>>31031000
CoAs can still incorporate some non-European elements into them. Depends on how CoAs spread and their history though.

>>31031040
Next bread will be, Hyper...

>>31031131
Why does that dragon have the anime uwu eyes?

>>31030520
I dunno about Cunt, but I mostly just like to post about my ideas in the thread first so I can be told if I'm about to do something silly or if there are more interesting ways to do stuff. Helps that I have a co-writer to bounce stuff with I guess

>>31031191
It's cutiegoon...
Also, flags and CoA are eurocentric, that's why Moriji doesn't have one. When I get off my ass to replace that shitty thing we have I'll make a mon.

>>31031191
Because dragons are cute. I thought you of all people would understand this

>>31031242
>cutiegoon
>made in 1959
Truly a fossilgoon...

>>31031131
We don't have a national Coat of Arms anyways, historically flags were based off of royal banners anyways.

>>31031293
New bread, brought to you by restored lost technology from the Hyper War era