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How do we stop them?

>> No.30638915

>>30638748
>All your application will go thru the random number generator instead of having actual interview
So what's the point of all this?

>> No.30638994

>>30638748
1) Why should we?
2) New wave flops anyway.

>> No.30639004

>>30638748
ACCELERATE

>> No.30639065
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>>30638748
What's their objective?

>> No.30639109

>>30638748
> Aug 29th deadline

This is why they can't find good talent. Not enough time to find hidden gems.

>> No.30639173

>>30638748
>Male gamers
Lol they’re trying to make an entire brother generation

>> No.30639269

>>30639173
Brotuber? Either way, they'll fall into the clutches of fujo hell hole that is NIJI EN.

>> No.30639290

>>30638748
>Sees Tempus
>Wants Brotubers now that Iluna did not do as well as expected
RUMAO

>> No.30639292
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>>30639173
*incel generation
FTFY

>> No.30639399

Holy shit. Let your existing gens get a foothold first tazumi.

>> No.30639469

>>30639109
Please understand, they're on a tight schedule to debut them on the 30th

>> No.30639475

>>30639292
>You like video games and you are a male, well that means you are an incel
Thank you Nijisanji for bringing in garbage that should never been fans of VTubers

>> No.30639494

So uh... what exactly are the qualifications for being a gamer. I'm really good at EU4 and have a slightly larger than average penis, can I get in?

>> No.30639514

get the guy who made the cunny vocaroo to apply

>> No.30639604

>>30639494
be better than vox at killing xqc in overwatch

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>>30639469
Imagine turning in your audition on the 29th and in the next 4 hours rushed in front of thousands with a twink design.

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>>30639065
>Fluence in English is a must
Whoa, they learned a lesson after Yugo, huh

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I'm looking at the responses and there's a lot of females lamenting that it's going to be a wave of only male characters, should it have been a mixed wave?

>> No.30639853

>>30639669
k-kino?

>> No.30639997

>>30639809
This wave is dead on arrival honestly. I'm a Nijifag but the EN audience is very different from JP. Their female viewers don't watch hardcore gaming content and their male viewers don't watch the boys much. When Luxiem stream real games their viewership tanks. Luca could barely even break 4k for the finale of his long-running Pokemon Nuzlocke series yesterday, a game that is extremely accessible to women.

The only people who want to watch gamers are fans of the girls, not making it a mixed wave means those people will just skip the debuts entirely if they know they aren't getting another Selen.

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>>30639997
>they aren't getting another Selen.
To be honest, that's hard to replicate... not only the gamer part but also the personality, her work ethic and her love for her own fan base

>> No.30640235

>>30638748
>male only
Yeah, I'm thinking iLuna didn't do as well as expected.

>> No.30640309

>>30639065
Brotubers

>> No.30640316

>>30639997
Or they'll get the EN Kuzuha/Kanae

>> No.30640588

Will I get accepted if I send them a picture of my piss bottles?

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Is it happening or will it be just more fujobait?

>> No.30640699

>>30640316
They really can't, because EN and JP audiences are just too different. EN Kuzuha is xqc and they're not gonna replicate xqc because there's already hundreds of people copying xqc on Twitch fighting over the same oversaturated audience.

>> No.30640802

>>30640611
Niji doesn't have shotas either? Lame. I just want a cute boy.

>> No.30640834

>>30640611
>Shota
>on EN
lol
>ojisan gamers
You will get a Valorant / Minecraft / Moba zoomer and you will like it

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>>30640834

>> No.30640911

>>30639109
That's the deadline just for applications, right? Not the time by which they have to actually select someone?

>> No.30640941

>>30640699
Can XQC sing and be funny?

>> No.30640964

>>30638748
>>30639065
>male only
Have they finally given up on female chuuba now
>requirements: gender doesn't matter
Are they fucking serious.another yugo? really?

>> No.30640971

>>30640941
>XQC
>funny
No.

>> No.30640979

>>30640893
This one is more real

>> No.30641019

what the fuck? did tempus actually spook them? this shit is hilarious.

>> No.30641473

>>30641019
Tempus is legit good

>> No.30641670

>>30641019
More like some of iLuna took a shit on their schedules and aren't discernable from any other vtuber schedule.
>Gacha
>Streamer bait rage game
>Kusoge horror game
>Same two competitive FPS
Oh boy, look at all of these streams I want to skip.

>> No.30641686

>>30640699
>they're not gonna replicate xqc because there's already hundreds of people copying xqc on Twitch fighting over the same oversaturated audience.
This argument doesn't make sense. If there are hundreds of xqc clones, at least a few of them will apply. And Youtube is different from Twitch, especially vtuber Youtube, it'll be something new and potentially desirable for NijiEN.

>> No.30641743

>>30639729
>Fluence in English is a must
>Whoa, they learned a lesson after
I hate ESL vtuber.
If an ENtuber has poor english, she should not be qualified to do her job. I always thought this is a common sense.

The worst part is 99.999999999% ESL vtubers never tried to improve their en. They never wanted to provide good service.

>> No.30641771

>>30641019
>did tempus actually spook them?
Tempus numbers massacred the new Niji wave according to catalog

>> No.30641794

>>30640802
>nijiEN doesnt have

>> No.30641820

>>30641019
are you actually believing these memes that iluna was a flop when they get the same or better numbers than tempus

>> No.30641894

>>30640611
Is this cope that kyo doesn't sound like an underage boy and instead is a cracker that sounds like a nigger
Literally a genshin shota design

>> No.30641898

>>30639173
I wonder what Niji would need to do to capture the male audience. They do seem stuck with the image of Luxiem adjacent even when that isn't what they go for.

The designs probably haven't helped. Not that they're bad, just give off a faggy vibe.

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>>30641820
its better to face reality now

>> No.30641986

>>30641771
It's more like the potential that both sides have are too big of a difference.

>> No.30642016

>>30641898
They never will
When the topdog of the branch are manwhores

>> No.30642031

>>30641686
>This argument doesn't make sense. If there are hundreds of xqc clones, at least a few of them will apply.
Luca already tried to copy xqc, it didn't work because pandering to Chinese women got him more viewers.
>And Youtube is different from Twitch, especially vtuber Youtube, it'll be something new and potentially desirable for NijiEN.
YT has been trying to poach big Twitch streamers for years and it hasn't really succeeded in bringing new viewers to YT. It's always just their existing Twitch audience migrating over.

Vtuber fans are even more fickle than fleshtuber fans, if you aren't really amazing at the game and have a ton of charisma they aren't gonna abandon their oshi to watch a male play Apex like Kuzuha.

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30642074

>>30641944
yes let's play the holo#fag ccv-vods-superchat whackamole on which number matters more

>> No.30642081

>>30641898
its hard as long as luxiem still there. luxiem spook all the male audience with their gay interaction

>> No.30642148

>>30642074
not bad. but why only showing ren?

>> No.30642178

>>30641686
>If there are hundreds of xqc clones
The thing you're missing is no one is looking for an anime clone of him. The audience in Japan is more open to the idea of an anime man streaming. For him to stream the normie games and be big fits. In the west vtubers are still weird to many, a lot of twitch kiddies are openly hostile to the whole thing. They aren't looking for big streamer but anime.

>> No.30642265

>>30642148
tempus spammers only show scarle and aia. Ren and kyo streamed it takes two today so where is it

>> No.30642423

>>30642074
Why the fuck are comparing views on 2-4 hours streams with 1 hour streams?

>> No.30642425

>>30642074
Ah yes the only member of Iluna that isn't a complete failure.

>> No.30642489

>>30642074
I'm not a Nijifag but I do wanna say that Marie and Ren are the biggest successes of Iluna even though the whole wave is generally a failure.
Marie is pretty much a generic idol vtuber girl but that has a ton of appeal and Ren is genuinely a great singer and has a great personality too. Too bad about the rest though, they either have shitty personalities or shitty content which drags the whole wave down hard.

>> No.30642571

End yourself, then you won't be alive to feel annoyed at pointless things.
It's foolproof.

>> No.30642675

>>30642489
She's ok after all the boyfriend roommate things?

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30642683

>>30641820

>Weakest Tempus member in a regular stream:
>$95
>Strongest Iluna member in a collab stream:
>$69

“Better number”

>> No.30642712

>>30642675
I have no clue about that, all I know is that she's the best female performer in her gen based off her numbers but nothing too impressive overall.

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30642716

Hype for the Next Wave!

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30642733

>>30638748
Time for TheDuelLogs?

>> No.30642742

>>30642489
tempus is cover's first maleEN wave and they're barely doing the same as iluna. If you're judging based on meme tinder-tier profiling then I can say tempus is generic and boring and barely fills any airtime

>> No.30642765

>>30641019
Tempus is not gamer wave , their most view content is zatsudan lmao

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>>30642683
Actually Collab streams are normally a SC debuff since it's almost guaranteed that the streamer won't read them regardless of what amount they get sent. Just out of politeness to the person they're currently collabing with.

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30642785

>>30639065
trannysanji and new flop wave incoming, can't wait to see it

>> No.30642790

>>30640964
That's almost surely just a thing to cover themselves legally. I think Cover has similar wording on their forms (albeit more implicit).

>> No.30642839

>>30642265
its better not to ask him this for your own sake. its not high than you think

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30643073

>>30642773

?

>> No.30643093

>>30642785
>Boob Arm
>Priorities!

>> No.30643117

>>30642716
HOLY MOTHER!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.30643138

>>30638748
why are the male designs always so shit

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>>30638748
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>>30642839
>>30643093
Nijisanji is literally a chinese sweatshop lole

Nijikeks need not reply

>> No.30643246

don't know, their models are always too wide for some reason

>> No.30643251

>>30643227
>Faggot I'm Holochad

>> No.30643358

>>30642423
Can't help the fact that Stars management won't allow them to stream for longer than an hour.

>> No.30643616

>>30643073
>Iluna gets a billion likes and views on every vod
>No SCs and nobody actually watches them live
They're not even subtle anymore.

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30643712

>>30639065
the return of cosmo

>> No.30643940

>>30638748
STRAS_EN GAMERS

>> No.30644002

>>30643712
He's fighting Saw rn

>> No.30644040

>>30642790
I would've believe that if yugo didn't exist. At least for cover they didn't give a male model to a female and vice versa

>> No.30644530

So . . . any of you applying and why?

>> No.30644838

>>30638748
I love it. We don't have nearly enough vtubers who play games. Screw niches, what we need is more generic gaming chubas. I'm sure there's never been a generation of vtubers who played games before.

>> No.30644887

>>30638994
OP is Niji fan begging management to stop. They can't stand another wave flop.

>> No.30644920

>>30639292
>This is the state of nijiniggers
Imagine sharing a fandom with this subhuman trash.

>> No.30644981

>>30641898
>I wonder what Niji would need to do to capture the male audience.
Rosemi, Selen and Pomu appealed to males. Then the flushed it all down the shitter when they interacted with males and they stopped caring.

>> No.30644992

>>30640598
A C C E L E R A T E

>> No.30645073

>>30644838
All gamer chuubas eventually degenerate into spamming minecraft, overused fotm and maybe Apex. This happens because of permissions autism and because those games simply perform better. Can't wait to see that happen for the gorillionth time here.

>> No.30645129

>>30639292
If you posted that on Twitter you need to kill yourself, you spaced out subhuman

>> No.30645211

>>30642074
>breakaway exception
>proves fucking anything
You're a dumb faggot XD

>> No.30645224

>>30645073
When you hire conventional people, you get conventional content. Oh well.

>> No.30645440

>>30641944
CCV mean shit.

>> No.30645486

>>30642683
You know about streamlabs right?

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>> No.30645558

>>30642742
They are nowhere near Iluna. Don't let ccv shitposters warp reality. Even Aia is pulling better vod numbers than half of Tempus.

>> No.30645564

>>30645440
Imagine both appealing to the LCD yet also having shit views

>> No.30645650

>>30645211
Now go look at Maria and Scarle.

>> No.30645674

>>30642742
>barely fits any airtime
Could it be because they are limited to one hour you worthless faggot, also calling them boring just tells me you're a spaced out faggot who needs a zoomer to scream in their ear and be provided flashing lights and sounds constantly because your monkey brain can't help but crave the audiovisual analogue of a fidget spinner.

>> No.30645751

>>30645558
Nijifriend just doesn't seem to understand how much of a success Tempus is. Iluna vs. Tempus is a false comparison and are only made because they debut near the same time. Tempus should be compared to Star JP and no one expected them to break 3 views.

>> No.30646111

>>30642074
WTF why don't people watch Magni's VODs?

>> No.30646223

>>30641820
Homostars are expected to flop though, it's like bragging about comparable 100m running times to an 80yr old with one leg.

>> No.30646601

>>30642716
This fag is still alive? I guess I hope he'll have a slow and painful death while people laugh at him.

>> No.30646712

>>30639494
I doubt your information regarding your penis is factual, anon.

>> No.30646741

It hurt itself in it's confusion

>> No.30646828

>>30644040
>At least for cover they didn't give a male model to a female
Rio from Holostars Uproar says hi.

>> No.30646855

>>30642716
B I G wave incoming

>> No.30646927

>>30638748
How do they got the money? We already got like 200 vtubers (from companies alone).

Arent we going to reach a point of oversaturation fairly soon?

>> No.30647242

>>30645211
>XD
Go back

>> No.30647246

>>30640941
Anyone knows that boy

>> No.30647350

>>30646927
We're already there. A lot of people genuinely don't give a shit about any of the new gens

>> No.30647370

>>30638748
Accelerate

>> No.30647429

>>30639997
They're probably aiming for brotubers

>> No.30647487

>>30638748
Don't need to stop them because 2434 will crash the market anyway within next 1 year or so. They push out fuckton of entertainers and unlike Cover, they don't give a fuck about quality. Most of Niji talents are hit or miss and wild card hires.
>>30646927
Banks who fund diversity hires (it's not even a meme or conspiracy) and people who buy memberships/subs on Twitch + Youtube monetization.

>> No.30647662

>>30647487
>Banks who fund diversity hires
Yes ESG investing is/was actually in a bubble, and is largely gigantic scam that negatively contributes to improved social impact

>> No.30647754

If the vtuber market becomes saturated enough, there stops being real value in joining a corporation rather than just striking out indie. Looking forward to both Cover and Niji killing themselves

>> No.30647897

>>30647754
If this can happen then we wouldn't have all the mega corps we have today lol. If Niji or Holo dies and vtubing is still around, another corp will just take their place.

>> No.30647987

>>30647754
I can't really imagine Cover dying, but I can see Niji crashing hard.

>> No.30648364

Thanks for the heads up OP, looking forward to the new wave.

>> No.30648632

>>30645558
Oh, look it’s the new Nijinigger cope. “I-I-It’s okay if Aia only has 500 people watching her b-b-because!” Truly pathetic.

>> No.30648796

>>30639475
Truly gamers are the most oppressed of all

>> No.30649252

>>30642733
Not likely, but at least he could collab with his Niji oshi Rosemi then.
>>30648632
People like to doompost with Aia, but someone has to be the lowest, and for that particular stream she was streaming a kuso game when a bunch of other nijis just started streaming.

>> No.30649666

>>30639292
Did that slut who made Depression Quest actually manage to gaslight the whole identity to something that it wasn't?

>> No.30649817

>>30647897
There really isn't that much difference to striking it out on your own and starting your own company at this point. Incorporation is pretty straightforward for small enterprises

>> No.30650246

>>30649252
Aster streamed the same game and got more than 3 times as many viewers. I like Iluna but Aia was a mistake.

>> No.30650270

>>30638748
Don't stop our enemy when they are committing mistakes

>> No.30650701

i'd apply if i didn't have to work with a bunchy of beta male losers
rather start my own company
someone needs to start a real chad company for male vtubers
no traps, no trans. no women allowed.

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>>30638748
>male character vtuber auditions again
Mocca my beloved, it's your time

>> No.30650867

>>30648632
Maybe Aia should stop being trash.

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>>30641743
>I hate ESL vtuber.
>I always thought this is a common sense
>The worst part is 99.999999999% ESL vtubers never tried to improve their en. They never wanted to provide good service.
This is so ironic I'll choose to believe you did it on purpose

>> No.30651596

>>30639494
you have to yell nigger at the enemy randomly when you lose

>> No.30651660

>>30651532
> Anon logic: A person who sucks at playing basketball will appreciate professional basketball player who sucks at playing basketball

>> No.30651747

>>30651660
>Anon logic: Niggerball analogy

>> No.30651773

They probably saw the appeal of brotubers from tempus or with vesper, so they're rushing to get the same kind of people before hololive introduce another set.

>> No.30651784

>>30640611
>Ojisan gamer
Bitch, vesper already covers that. I dont want more

>> No.30651907

>>30651747
Not an argument. Try again.

>> No.30651980

>>30639173
They will eventually have to pretend they wanna suck their bro's dick or stick their tongue in the viewers' ears live on stream if they want those sweet superchats down the line. It's inevitable.

>> No.30652207

>>30650741
I don't think he's getting into any corp after sending his attack dogs after Millie because she said he was wrong to say that a scuffed debut means you are forever doomed, especially not one with Millie in.

>> No.30652602

>>30640911
Deadline for applications. They state they take a month to sort the numbers and interview. So if you see any random graduations in the indie space come October, you know what's up.

>> No.30652678

>>30639292
wow time to apply

>> No.30652884

>>30639065
I like niji but why do these fucking retards add non fluent talents to their cast, what’s the point of adding a non fluent speaker to a English branch. Are the retarded?

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>>30641944
Time to stop using bot farms Yagoo.

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30653097

>>30652958
>b-but it's just Ren and Maria!

>> No.30653140

>>30652884
Because it's an international branch and not a burger branch? NijiEN has a shitton of asian and european fans.

>> No.30653294

Reminder to not bother applying if you don't have at least 100k subs. Their only criteria is numbers, regardless of how good/entertaining you are.

>> No.30653318

>>30652958
>>30653097
>channels with less subs get lower viewership
What are these images even supposed to prove...?

>> No.30653356

>>30640235
I'm pretty sure ILUNA's highest earners right now are Maria and Scarle though, even though Ren has the most subs. Chinks probably don't want to budge from Luxiem/Noctyx yet so it'd be a waste of time.

With a 2w deadline it's pretty obvious that they had a lot of female 'gamers' in the audition but not enough guys. This is probably for the ILUNA counterpart mixed wave.

>> No.30653412

>>30653318
Botted ccv numbers? There is no fucking way that 7k streamer gets lower vod views than fucking 1.5k streamer.

>> No.30653465

>>30653356
Iluna counterpart is probably already locked and getting ready this is for the future.

>> No.30653611

>>30638748
dont most flop either way?

>> No.30653651

I just wanted one new girl that was worth watching and iluna didn't deliver. Now there's another fucking male wave. Fucking hell.

>> No.30653666

>>30638748
we need somehow trap them to say T-word

>> No.30653667

>>30653465
Nah. There'd be no need for such a tight deadline if this was way out. It makes more sense to fast track this audition to fill spots for Wave 7 and then announce them at NijiFes. Wave 8 won't be until 2023.

>> No.30653869

>>30653667
NijiEN likes to release waves in pairs.

>> No.30654069

Why did they use the term “Gamer” specifically? Did they realize hiring a bunch of normalfags was a bad idea when the content is so samey?

>> No.30654283

>>30638915
welcome to the modern job market

>> No.30654309
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>>30638748
is niji and holo just dick waving eachother, one upping everytime they debut a generation? there's too many fucking vtubers already.

>> No.30654350

>>30654069
Iluna has Maria and Aster as gamers. Rest are there to pander to new audiences. The only one who is not doing good is Aia.

>> No.30654403

>>30654309
NijiEN numbers keep improving so market is still hungry for more.

>> No.30654473
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>>30652958
>>30653097
Holy shit even the brain damaged retard is beating them.

>> No.30654919

Are these retards actually comparing 4 hour streams to 1 hour streams?

>> No.30655856
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30655856

>Tempus is doing better than Niji males

Also hell just froze and nips stopped eating rice.

>> No.30655936

>>30654919
Longer streams are not really a boost for vod views. Actually it's often the opposite.

>> No.30656305

>>30653140
Yes but “NijiEn” would imply that you’re good with English, my problem with them isn’t that they speak multiple languages but the wording might get people that aren’t good with the language on board.

>> No.30656517

Aia would be good if she weren't so bad.

>> No.30656615

>>30656305
No. It implies they can communicate in English and they can.

>> No.30656640

>>30654919
>>30655936
Is there a way to see the vod views shortly after the stream ends? If the difference is large right away, that implies that the higher vod views are due to a longer stream time with viewers dropping in and out. If the vod view difference is small initially but gets larger over time, that might imply more people are going to Iluna channels over time

>> No.30656690

>>30656517
She needs to find her niche. Like TTRPG streams.

>> No.30656920

>>30638748
stop giving them money. cancel all memberships. do not watch their streams. tell them their content sucks because they try too hard to pander to people who don't even like anime designs to begin with.

the thing is, even if all the West did this, the Chinese would still support them enough to keep them going. but at least if that happened, it'd be because they just want more Voxes, and maybe blunt the direction they're going with shit like Iluna where they very-very-very literally take random people who don't even know what these are and go "whoosh you're a vtuber now."

>> No.30656948

>>30656640
The numbers general has a bunch of tracking websites, they can probably do that. The discussion is pointless anyways because the number that holds actual weight is watch hours, not ccv, and that one isn't public and probably has a weak correlation with total views (especially on long boring streams that nobody will watch for over a minute).

>> No.30657033

>>30656948
Watch hours, not ccv nor views*

>> No.30657182

>>30653412
Length of VOD has a HUGEinfluence on VOD views. Tempus only stream for 1h each time, so the views are lower. This is BASIC youtube numberfagging and you can’t even do that right.

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>>30657182
>Length of VOD has a HUGEinfluence on VOD views

Only for initial views. Long term shorter streams often get more.

>> No.30657845

>>30657670
Salome has fuckhuge ccv too. Her views are about what you'd expect regardless of length or whatever

>> No.30658213

>>30638748
Aiming for EN Kuzuha?

>> No.30662141

en yashiro onegai

>> No.30662719

>>30656948
>the number that holds actual weight is watch hours,
Watch hours is even more pointless because it just means shitters like Kaela who stream a lot can mog all of Luxiem put together

>> No.30662993

>>30642489
Ren Zotto has a personality!?!?!?

He’s fucking drier than the Sahara desert.

>> No.30664391

>>30652958
>>30653097
>It's the ccvs that are botted
>Not niji's views and likes which are much easier to bot and which you can find massive numbers for extremely cheap extremely easily
DYRB?

>> No.30664472

>>30638748
The more livers they debut, the less feasible the family shtick becomes, so if they need to shit out more actual trash in order to get the better livers to focus less on collabs, then I'm down.

>> No.30664500

>>30662719
Watch hours are the number one metric when it comes to making money from advertisers and sponsorships.
Not a single stat is more important when it comes to actually making money.
Not super chats, not memberships, nothing.
Even XqC, who mogs every single vtuber in all metrics, has come out to say that you might as well not sub to him since that shit's peanuts compared to what he makes from sponsorships.

>> No.30667642
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30667642

>company goes public
>puts its numbers up on display for everyone to see
>people still insist on making shit up

>> No.30668690

>>30646111
Honestly? In my case I've been too busy watching niji streams back to back and hardly find time to check their vods or watch them live. I want to check Noir but he streams at weird euro hours and I'm in CST, midnight streams don't work for me most days.
I'll admit I'm more interested in checking out a couple of the tempus guys than most of iluna, but again, just me.

>> No.30668725

>Iluna
Bunch of normalfags. First impressions are really important and they just gave a very boring first impression, they feel kinda aimless and I doubt they will improve a lot in the future.

>Tempus
Chill dudes but they are way inferior to regular streamers. They are like a discount Jerma/NL/Vinny but without the creativity, charisma, interesting game choices or musical talent.

>> No.30669228

>>30638748
Will we finally get FG corpo chuuba?

>> No.30669358

Am I retarded? I always thought that the number of views we see on VODs after a stream ends is related to how many people watched. Like, if 2k people watched a stream for an hour, when the stream ends and it's now a VOD, it doesn't have 2k views, it will have like 20k or whatever. So a 1 hour VOD having 20k views when compared to a 2huor VOD having 20k views, they're virtually the same.

>> No.30669545

>>30669358
Yes, you are retarded.

>> No.30669737

>>30669545
Good to know. So the moment a stream ends there's 14k people or whatever ready to watch the vod? That sounds more retarded but what do I know.

>> No.30669931

>>30669737
You don't need to watch a video from start to finish to count as a viewer. Longer streams tend to have higher views because more people have time to come and watch enough to tick up the count even if they bail before the stream ends.

>> No.30670057

>>30646111
I think it's because the people who were to watch the VODS caught it live anyway since they still have the 1 hour stream restriction.

There are people who might have caught the stream at the last 15 minutes and was satisfied with just that. Could also be because since it's only an hour long most fans just save watching the VOD for another day.

>> No.30670318

>>30670057
The screenshot is also comparing a 100k subs channel to 300k subs channel. Even if the ccv is comparable that's still three times more potential viewers, i'd like to see how Des compares to a similarly sized vtuber.

>> No.30670383

>>30669931
Right, I understand a view =/= someone watching from start to finish. I was more asking about the scenario in which a stream being watched by 2-3k people ends, and as soon as it's a VOD, 10k+ people start watching that.
Admittedly I mostly, if not exclusively, watch corpo tubers streams in youtube, has it been bots all along frfr?

>> No.30670467

>>30638748
that banner looks so low quality kek

>> No.30670584

>>30670383
It means 10k+ people watched some portion of the live stream. People come and go when a live stream happens.

>> No.30670723

>>30670383
>I was more asking about the scenario in which a stream being watched by 2-3k people ends, and as soon as it's a VOD, 10k+ people start watching that.
2-3k people total during the entirety of the stream's duration that came and watched enough to count as a view or 2-3k people that were watching when the stream ended? Initial VOD count will show the former category, plus there's some processing after a stream that might be related to that process where a bunch of views appear not immediately, but shortly after a stream ends. You might be thinking of that.

>> No.30670874

>>30670383
Youtube requires you to watch a video from somewhere from 30 seconds to a minute for a view to count. Per video you can only count as 5 views per day, this is why Kpop fans acting like bots have to delete their cookies. The same is likely true for a stream. Viewership is not a stable thing, people will come and go throughout being counted for watching a section of the video for some time.

This means a longer stream will naturally acquire higher VoD views easier, even if that is a lot of 30 second in and outs. So a short stream having comparable views means it was getting more attention in a much shorter time frame.

>> No.30670977

>>30670874
>>30670723
This makes a lot of fucking sense, I feel dumber for not thinking of this, but I'm smarter now.

>> No.30671194

>>30647754
You're retarded if you think an indie could get a workable 3D model that isn't VRChat and without forking tens of thousands for a mocap studio. Don't make me bring out Kson's super 3D.

>> No.30671260

>>30639290
But the two best performing members of Tempus aren't even gamerbro streamers.

>> No.30671486

>>30641743
>ESL vtubers never tried to improve their en
????
Tenma from Phase Connect used to have a unrecognizable english during her first few months but nowadays is perfectly understandable. It's your fault for watching shitty vtubers who don't care about learning.

>> No.30671588

>>30671260
exactly....

I don't think they're doing this because of TEMPUS, they're doing it because ILUNA has flopped (which means, they scrapped ISOLARIS or whatever their counterpart was gonna be), so they're now gonna try to do the complete opposite and look into gamers, rather than just average streamers.

>> No.30671699

>>30671588
I'm pretty sure they already signed and developed the counterparts and it's too late to scrap them. Since most of the work is already done, chances are they'll debut them anyway.

If there's one thing Nijisanji's not afraid of, it's debuting flops.

>> No.30671862

>>30671588
I think people acting like this is a reaction to ILUNA's current performance are seriously overreacting and don't know how businesses operate.
It's like when a person opens up a new restaurant and calls it a failure when the place loses money and is not overflowing with customers right away.

>> No.30671893

>>30671699
That's a possibility maybe, but they are really looking into doing a 180 for this next gen after what happened last time, which makes me worry they're probably not gonna care at all for ILUNA's counterpart when they debut lol

My personal rrat is that the 3 guys they already got for the ILUNA counter are gonna now go into this new GAMER wave with 3 pro players that they hire with this audition. And same will happen with the 3 girls when they open female auditions later.

>> No.30671921

>>30641944
Regis is somehow even bigger of a faggot than UKI and aster so it checks out unfortunately

>> No.30671936

>>30671588
I doubt they scrapped anyone as Niji's model is pump out and see what happens. If they fail then who cares the next lot is coming.

However they might have realise that scooping up whoever had the most subs and chucking them at the wall wasn't a good model. Doesn't create cohesion or target a demographic. Creating a gamer wave makes a lot more sense, you can focus the designs and personalities to try and hit an audience. I feel like their brand image in general needs a lot of work to pull this off.

>> No.30672126

>>30638748
We don't, just leave them alone.

Dont think about them.
Dont watch them.
Dont screenshot them.
Dont know their names.
Conpletely ignore them to point of forgetting they even exist.

It's meaningless to let irrelevant things take up time in your thoughts. If something isn't affecting you, and you can't affect it, it's probably meaningless.

>> No.30672168

>>30654473
Kyo is unironically the better streamer of the gen, on the long run he will surpass the other iluna members

>> No.30673970

>>30672168
I geniunely believe that he would be bigger if he had a good model (as in, one that fit his voice, and yes I know its a le funny gimmick, but its only funny for a second. Imagine if Vox was given that shota design instead)

>> No.30674127

>>30656615
not FLUENTLY though
that's the key fucking word nigga

>> No.30674329

>>30638748
They're like the companies who sell "As Seen on TV" shit, if you have a thousand cheap products that a couple hundred people buy you can make a decent living even if all you sell is trash

>> No.30674856

>>30647429
it'd be a dream come true but i just lost hope with the whole niji pandering to EN fujos thing. i used to quite enjoy luxiem but something along the way made me lose hope in them trying to balance their content. tempus however is doing great on this matter

>> No.30675230

>>30671486
Her improvement is really impressive, and I really admire her idea of essentially trapping yourself in a situation where you absolutely need to know the language in order to function as being the best way to learn. I'm definitely not that brave.

>> No.30675240

>>30672168
I checked Kyo and was instantly filtered by his misfit voice. He has decent voice but it just doesn't fit the model. Before him I've only seen bad cases like that with deep voiced women having loli avatars and it just makes it hard to watch. If his voice was like Rio's from Uproar (StarsJP) he would have been perfect. In all honesty, when I first saw their wave's banner I thought Kyo was gonna be a cute cheerful girl.

>> No.30675660

>>30647429
So they're aiming for a Tempus or early Luxiem/LazuSydia style where they try to appeal to everyone and just focus on being entertaining again? That sounds like too little too late, since the current fanbase will probably try to push for pairings and shit.
It also just feels weird that they're already pushing out yet another wave so quickly after Iluna, it's Anykara's business model but holy fuck they didn't go this hard even with ID/KR in terms of flooding the market.

>> No.30676017

>>30675240
>>30673970
I still think Kyo and Aster grabbed each other's model by accident and nobody noticed or cared.

>> No.30676054

>>30639494
YWNBAM

>> No.30676758

>>30676017
I feel Aster with Kyo's voice would be even worse

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>>30638748
>implying it can be stopped at this point

>> No.30677730

>>30675660
>Anykara's business model but holy fuck they didn't go this hard even with ID/KR
I could be totally wrong but I think they're doing it because their main competitor, Cover, is literally sucking ass in EN department. Half of EN girls are barely streaming and stagnating, Tempus was a success but they happened when Niji already had 2 male waves and 1 mixed one on the way. They see EN market as something yet to be fully exploited so they're going all in. They're gonna shit out as many waves as possible with various concepts based on different audition requirements. Some waves or individuals will eventually fall off but even the shittiest of the shittiest pay off in 6 months, so why even bother stopping? Accelerate. I can't say I'm a fan of this mass vtuber "manufacturing" but it is what it is.

>> No.30677964

Cool creative writing thread

>> No.30678354
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>>30638748
looks like NijiEN didnt do as well as expected

>> No.30678675
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30678675

Based nijisisters putting homofags in their place with real numbers. Nobody fucking like homofags leechers discord raiders, the only thing they can do is raid the board just like they used to raid /hlg/ with Roberu bullshit. At the end of the day they are still irrelevant

>> No.30678748

I haven't come to /vt/ in months. What's the deal? I left when the 2nd male EN branch debuted.

Just been watching indies and doing me 2 view streams.

>> No.30679035

>>30674127
90% of the world speaks English. 80% of that not fluently.

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>>30641944
LOL are you trying to say he's getting better numbers than Uki?

>> No.30679245

>>30646111

/#/fags are botting Holo ccv's.

>> No.30679363

>>30678675
StarsEN are doing good and honestly better than expected but they are nowhere near nijis especially considering debut buff.

>> No.30683613

>>30679245
Based. Only good thing they've done

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>>30638748
>Tempus drops
>They are successful
>NijiEN scared and hastily holds auditions for more male vtbuers because their scared of their market dominance being threatened

SAY IT AIN'T SO CUH.

>> No.30689994

>>30638748
we dont

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