/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30564393
Honestly same, the recent boom in the ID branch makes me happy and all but cope is my favourite generation and it's not going to change ever.
I still love Zeta and Reine though

>>30564470
SEA detected

I've literally not watched a single one of their streams
Sorry, but Fauana and Mumei are a no go because I'm not a cuck. Baelz thirsted openly for men so I knew she was a lost cause too. Sana just had a super unappealing design but I might've watched her if she had fucking streamed. Kronii had a similar issue as Sana early on so by the time she stopped hiding from her job I had already lost interest.
Irys seems like a good girl

>>30564500
I am not gonna deny I am from Singapore but what gave it away?
I think my English was alright

>>30564553
Nothing, that anon just calls anyone who disagrees with them a SEA.

They're alright. I don't like Fauna's fans, and her voice rubs me wrong, but overall their gen is fine. Gen 5 is the best gen however.

>>30564393
If you include IRyS in with Council than they are, bar none, the best generation in all of Hololive.

Dropped EN as a whole long ago but I tune in to mumeis drawing and karaoke streams sometimes. Too bad about irys I liked her in the beginning but the permasepression arc made me lose interest completely.

>>30564595
>Gen 5 is the best gen however.
I mean I really would have agreed with you but Botan is not my cup of tea. So that's what makes it my 3rd favourite gen after gen 6 and cope

>the top 4 generations of Hololive (Gen 5, CouncilRyS, Gen 6 and Tempus)
This might just be the most retarded thing I've read in this board all month.

>>30564845
Who am I supposed to add there?
>Gen 3
Lmao
>Gen 2
Currently being carried by Subaru and Choco
>Gen 1
Being carried by Fubuki and Matsuri
>Gen 0
Lmao
>Gen 4
No matter how much I love Watane and Kanata, it's been reduced to a Towa genaration
>ID gens
None of them are good besides Gen 3. Even after that it's not that great. Risu and Reine are the only good ones in their generations
>Myth
Lmao

>>30564393
I really like councilrys, they've all got different dynamics but I've always been able to hop into any of the streams and enjoy myself without issue.

>>30564393
>>30564595
>>30564659
How the fuck do you guys even fit the criteria of the best gen? gen 5, council, and tempus are objectively impossible to be the best gen since they don't even have full 5 members hence whatever the fuck criteria you used will be lacking 20%.

>>30565038
Gen 5 lost Aloe almost immedately, so it didn't really affect anything save for the first month of their debuts. Nothing was lost. If anything, the group feels tighter than others since they were exposed to harsh realities right at the start.

>>30564393
Bait

>>30564393
Myth is boring as fuck except for Gura. Council has Fauna and Kronii which carries Council. Mumei is ok, but Baelz is Myth-tier boring.

>>30564393
I like them but I am a DD who watches most people depending on what they do.
IRyS was very comfy at the start and I loved seeing the Gartic Phone collab where all of Myth seemed very welcoming to her. I personally feel like she is seen way too strongly in the YabaIRyS shtick when she could have been... purer. And of course the whole outfit situation sucks. But she's good. Very good.
Council started very early on to have a lot of interaction potential, the first MC collab with Bae Kronii and Mumei was really fun. Kronii and Bae imho started off the strongest, whereas I wasn't as invested in Fauna or Mumei at first, especially Mumei was extremely shy.
At this stage they all fleshed out, I feel a bit less strongly about Kronii than I used to and feel more interested in everyone else than I used to.
So yeah, go CouncilRys

>>30565038
I don't see the issue with 3 or 4 people gens. It works for G4 and G5. it works for Holoro. I don't really know much about G3 but I don't think of them as being a tightly knit gen because I see too little of them and am frankly too new.

>>30564393
IRyS and Fauna are themselves better than the 90% of JP VTubers from Holo and when you add them with kronii(despite the rrats, she is super cute) and Mumei, you get the best gen

>>30564393
Fauna is the best ENvtuber
The rest are okay
I hated Sana and how she lied and lied and never streamed and didn't give back to the people that membered and supported her. I felt nothing at her graduation and basically the only reason I don't shit talk her more is because Fauna likes her.

>>30565824
>Fauna is the best ENvtuber
I disagree
Mumei and IRyS are better

>>30565939
That's your opinion and I respectfully disagree

>>30565983
My opinion is the only opinion that matters Sapling.

>>30564393
>robert
>meximoot
>gym bros
>cartoon network
>lives in japan, where there's love hotels around every corner
Eh...
>I will protect her with my life
Have fun with that

I like Fauna and think she’s one of the better streamers in Holo but I dont particularly like the rest. Overall I think they’re better than myth though.
My personal rankings though are
1. JP4
2. ID2
3. JP0
4. Tempus

>>30565225
I agree with this, I can’t watch the rest of myth these days. I only watch gura, Mumei and fauna. despite ina being my OG oshi.

Feels like myth lost their drive and the unity is nonexistent. Gura doesn’t even collab with her own gen anymore outside of promo stuff which says a lot. And vice versa considering it feels like they intentionally try to exclude her.

I may be over exaggerating but just feels like she’s settled in with council over myth and personally I prefer it this way.

In regards to ina it’s just a shame. I can’t even watch her anymore without snoozing.

>>30566499
i spit my drink when i saw ID2 the failed gen on your list, lmao nice joke

>>30566261
The presence of love hotels increases the likelihood of people having sex? Japan's birthrates would suggest otherwise.

>>30567254
Yeah countries with mudhuts and shacks have way more sex than first world countries. His logic is retarded

>>30564393
>NANASHI MUMEI
Has a boyfriend, cuckold fans keep denying it. Boring.

>CERES FAUNA
Has a boyfriend, cuckold fans keep denying it. Is terrible at ASMR even though it's
supposed to be her main gimmick. Boring.

>HAKOS BAELS
Extremely boring. Is terrible at just about anything other than chatting streams, Minecraft
and MAYBE some shitty short indie games.

>OURO KRONII
Clinically depressed suicidal menhera. Can't go 5 seconds without having a mental
episode. Literally never streams.

>TSUKUMO SANA
Nepotism hire, a literal waste of talent, hangs around doing basically nothing for a whole
year before fucking off because of health issues or some bullshit. It's a shame that
they could have hired a much more talented and deserving indie chuuba but decided to try
the nepotism route because they thought it was a good idea after it worked with GAMERS
but were too dumb to realize the sheer incompetence of western women

IRyS is the only somewhat decent one

>>30567254
Developed countries have condoms and the pill.

>>30564983
>I like sanitized and inbred content
this is you

>>30564393
This is the most retarded post I've seen today

>>30569175
Tell me how I am wrong?
All the gens I mentioned above have something lacking

>>30564393
What the fuck am I reading

>>30564393
They are pathetic and lazy compared with every other gen and perhaps every other corpo tuber out there, from the ones I've seen anyway.
A null. A waste. Exemplified by the one that quit before a year was even up because they'd rather be doing something else.

>>30570109
they barely produced anything new or creative worth of mention, it's just recycled content after recycled content riding the laurels of their predecessors

>>30570268
If it ain't broken, don't fix it. They are the best at what they do

>>30564529
Do you ever… like… try something to see if you like it first?

>>30570329
I have no reason to watch creatively bankrupt content creators

>>30570192
EOP at best
self-hating SEAmonkey at worst

>>30570468
>thinking anybody /here/ watches streams

>>30570660
Fuck I meant >>30570340
Still works I guess...

>>30564393
>IRyS
Some of the worst fans but great
>Fauna
Some of the worst fans but not bad
>Kronii
Some of the worst fans but ok
>Bae
Great as long as she isn't screaming
>Mumei
Great
>Sana
All 5 of her fans probably offed themselves by now

If you're not a numberfag and just consider how entertaining their streams are, they're the best gen

I don't get why anyone would prefer council. They kinda don't do much in the general content creation side except for Fauna. I prefer Myth's projects and both gens have roughly the same streaming frequency so it's not like those projects meant they'd stream less. Don't get me wrong because I still like them, they're great additions to HoloEN and HoloID though since they're almost always available for collabs.

>>30572995
Anon council is on the same level of "creation" as 4/5 of myth. Ame is the only creative one who sets shit up for everyone else in both gens. And she's not even my oshi

>>30567981
But even when it comes to developed countries most beat out Japan in birthrates despite not having love hotels.
If 2 people want to have sex with eachother there are plenty of places to do so. The presence or absence of love hotels barely affects anything.

>>30573201
You're obviously ignoring Mori. And the only Myth that doesn't do much is Gura.

>>30573737
>mori
>creative
>rhymes a few words together then outsources them to someone with talent to make a song out of
>now has an entire company to do the thinking for her
roru
rumao

>>30574056
If everyone can do it then why is she faster at it? Either way, that would still be preferably than simply being a streamer.

>>30574211
>deadbeat thinks quantity > quality
Why am I not surprised

>>30564393
Meh. I like Mumei, Fauna is so-so, very mixed feelings on Kronii, Bae is a whore and Sana was a mistake. Irys is similar to Fauna if we count her.

>>30574274
>everyone is a deadbeat
Your opinions on what constitutes as good isn't an objective barometer on quality. The process of getting good also requires trying multiple times, and releasing more is a way to do it.

My oshi releases orisongs too and she's kinda slow (3 so far) and she's less involved in the creation process (someone else writes, someone else mixes, etc etc) but has a hand on it's creative direction every step of the way, so I do see how writing your own lyrics speeds up the process a ton if you already have a history of writing lyrics.

>>30564393
>Fauna
streaming regular and doesn't offend fans, the best place for disappointed myth fans

>Mumei
has interesting ideas, gets along with everyone, a war criminal

>Kronii
plays boring games, streams quite regularly

>Bea
forever horny, pushing beaRys, lost potential

>IryS
depressive arc, yet funny but stupid


after all, the holo is terrible weak lately, I put counli behind jp3, j5, id3

>>30575153
>kronii
>streams regularly
Also, fauna is easily the most boring in council

>>30564393
I like Cope more than Myth just because they collectively stream more things I'm interested in. I like all the girls, but the main thing that'll get me to watch a stream is what they're playing. Myth has also played a ton of stuff I love, especially Amelia with Mario and Ina with Bayonetta and W101, but since Council debuted they haven't been doing as much. Gura would be up there too for Kirby and Metroid, but she doesn't finish any of them.

>>30564393
boring cunts who all try too hard to be memequeens

>>30564393
I like Irys, Fauna, Gura but can't stand any of the others from Myth or Council. They all have something that really rub me the wrong way.

>>30564393
Luv me owl
Luv her genmates
Luv EN
Luv Hololive
‘Ate antis
Simple as

>>30564529
Unironically stop reading dox about the vtubers. If they keep the CGDCT illusion with the vtuber persona (unlike western vtubers who can't gush about BFs) it's fine with me.
If you want the redpill on vtubers, you should stop watching vtubers at all.

they should do one holoEN generation

IryS, Gura, Fauna, Mumei, Ina
and Kronii to Tempus


the rest to throw away

>>30567552
>has a boyfriend
yeah, me

>>30564393
>Putting this flop of a gen on the same level of gen5 and 6
roru
rumao
Keep deluding yourselves councilcucks. Your flops bring nothing to the table they're just there. Irys is fine.

>>30564393
Bunch of flops couldn't keeping the hype of HoloEN. They are suppose to expand the fanbase and reaching Myth level but instead they fell hard. Except Irys getting fucked by her design the rest literally have no excuses. Luckily Sana graduate soon tho.

>>30564393
Ironically I think Sana leaving, and Irys unofficially taking her spot made council better as a gen in result. I loved her but she didn't feel in-tune with their chemistry at all, and almost felt like that autistic friend that never talked in the group or made things awkward. inb4 a sanallite replies to me about how terrible I am or whatever.

I loved watching Sana solo, hated watching her in collabs with her genmates.

Tempus has easily the best chemistry imo if you're counting Holopro as a whole. If just hololive then council.

solid gen, just a shame saner amounted to little aside from being a good kirby/pokemon streamer

>>30581819
Sana was great in collabs, but yeah she never quite blossomed out of her debut stage, even Mumei was able to evolve past the “I forgor” memes.

>>30582030
mumei grew past that after her first week. she was already becoming a big hit

>>30582030
yeah.... I loved her but it got to a point where I could predict what she was going to say in her streams. I shouldn't be able to predict what a person is going to say unless it's a video game.
I thought her collabs with JP/ID were pretty decent though, and I wish she focused on those more before graduating. Would've loved to see the kino that could've been Sana/Subaru.

>>30564393
The most boring unit in vtubing.

>>30576847
This.

Where is the big boobed one?

>>30576847
>Ina
Why would you waste a spot like that?

>>30564393
Gen 3 is objectively the strongest, but the cracks showed when they lost Rushia
Gen 5 is also strong, but the loss of Aloe at the start was a handicap, they worked harder to compensate but still it is a hole.
ID has 3 member gens which don't quite feel like an actual generation. Rather all of them feels like a single unit.
Council lost Sana, while it is sad and I say unironically sanalittes are the best fans, she was definitely the weak link. Replacing her with Irys has made Council the best overall.

>>30587731
i needed this 5th member to create a generation yes i know quite a wasted spot

>>30564393
cocksluts

>>30576288
Correct

>>30575153
Comeon, they are much better than ID 3. Even ID 1 is better than ID 3

Indogs will get mad at me for saying this but Council+IRyS is better than any Hololive ID or En gen besides Tempus maybe(same level).
They are easily in top 3 holo gens

>>30564393
I used to actively dislike Irys but now I just feel bad for her. She's clearly very sweet and is getting mismanaged/sidestepped for absolutely no reason.
I thought Sana's pokemon streams were comfy and her rapport at the time with her fans was great, so just sad and frustrated she dropped her fanbase like they were lepers.
Bae's "Play Dice" is my favorite orisong but she's too grating to watch.

I mostly forget about the others.

>>30588247
>ID has 3 member gens which don't quite feel like an actual generation. Rather all of them feels like a single unit.
I will tell you ID 3 is great for ID but they are honestly meh when taken into a bigger picture. Kaela is a sweetheart and hardworking but is honestly meh in her solo streams. Zeta is Fauna if she was less entertaining and more edgy. Kobo is a Gura who is an extrovert.
Overall pretty good, but I will even put Myth over them if Mori wasn't so shitt

>>30595385 (me)
Ignore me, I thought this was councilyrys in the OP and am illiterate

>>30564393
>Kronii
I thought she'd be my favourite but I almost never watch her for some reason
>Bae
A bit too zoomer for me but she's still very fun, somehow it doesn't feel as force as some chuubas
>Fauna
Luv me faufau, she's a certified player of games and is just fun to watch.
I just want all the pornsick coomer artists to stop drawing her in the cow bikini, she's gonna end up with more fanart in that outfit than cute sfw art at this rate
>Mumei
I find her voice too grating for some reason but I still like seeing her in collabs and short bursts
>IRyS
I really can't stand how uncanny her model is, it puts me off watching her even though I imagine she's quite entertaining
>Sana
Honestly never cared, her voice got annoying and she felt very forced a lot of the time. She definitely got shafted with her slightly weird looking model but she was boring regardless

As an Indog, i agree. Kobo still my queen though.
Kaela holds back the generation and Zeta is Holo En liye(so is Kaela though)

>>30564393
Why didn't Myth adopted IRyS when they could? By now she is almost Council in all but name

>>30596041
>>30596041
you watch streams, IRyS is the daisnepai of council since before they debuted, she fits with them better anyway just like gura

>>30576847
this

Council is 2nd best purely because Fauna is the top EN streamer by far. Mumei is okay but she needs to tone down the retardation. Kronii is decent but she usually streams too late for me to watch. Bae would be fine if she stopped screaming so much. Irys isn’t really my style. And Myth is pretty boring. I like Gura collabs though, and when Ame collabs with JPs.

Top gen is obviously JP3. I could watch any random Flare, Peko or Marine stream and know it’ll be entertaining.

JP2 had potential when Aqua actually streamed and wasn’t just doing her Idol shit. Fuck Apex for destroying Aqua’s passion for streaming games.

I like some individual IDs but they don’t really give off a Gen feel with only 3 members.

>>30564393
>Fauna
not into ASMR, hate her voice, never watched
>Mumei
don't like the retarded schtick and don't think her 'scary' stuff is that intriguing
>Kronii
refuse to watch, she ruins everything she touches
>Bae
Agree with that anon that said "great orisong, too grating to watch"
>Sana
redacted, not gonna tell you assholes what I feel about Sana
>Irys
Who?

>>30564393
Bae and Sana were mistakes. I will never understand the appeal of those kinds of streamers.
Fauna>Kronii>Mumei>Irys
They're about on par with Myth.
ID3 is better than them.
Tempus is on par with them.
Best Hololive generation/team is still Gamers.

>>30564393
>Bae
Good at setting jokes/situations up for others to slam dunk, unintentionally or otherwise. Enjoyable when she's being passionate about something, but sometimes fumbles trying to get there. Mating press. 10/10 music taste, wish she could share her playlists.
>Fauna
Is at her best when she takes the lead, daunting as it may be. Widest "comfort zone" out of council. Knows what a Ryab is. Knows what humor is. Puts in enough effort and care to feel like she actually gives a shit, but unfortunately could stand to step up her ASMR game. Right now, it's less ASMR, and more general relaxation/sleep aid.
>IRyS
Big ol' dork you can't help but love. Even if she has to dig sometimes for things to chat about, it's still interesting because it comes from such an unusual place. Almost as cute as Bae.
>Kronii
Charismatic, but only in bursts; I personally get tired sitting through hours of stream to come upon those short moments. Generally a background stream, but Certified Collab Enhancer™ for sure.
>Mumei
A wildcard with the occasional stream that interests me, but probably my least watched. Not bad, I'm just not the audience, and that's okay.
>Sana
In space, no one can hear you stream. Best council at ribbing others, including chat; no one could hang. Burned twice as bright, but for like 1/8th as long. Found out vtubing wasn't her passion, so that'll happen. Sometimes the best fit for the job, doesn't want the job.

what the fuck is with all these positive Fauna posts

>>30600111
luv me faufau simple as

I like Council, but they aren't passionate about anything like Myth. Ame, Ina, Gura, Mori, and Kiara might not have synergy like Council does, but they all have something they like very much and are passionate about.

Aquariums, Drawing, Idols, Music, or Rhythm games, they can go hours talking about their interests. IRyS has music and Sana had drawing (which she for some reason never really talked about) but Bae, Fauna, Kronii, and Mumei don't have much interest in anything even if they're entertaining to watch.

Council is fun to watch, but they don't have the "idol dream" that Myth has.

>>30600572
Gura isn't passionate about anything, she's basically a Council member

I've started to prefer Council to Myth too. Overall, I think they have a better chemistry and by now everyone found their place/style in hololive.

SNOT is the best clique though

>>30564393
>No mention of gen 3
Kill yourself enshart.

If they streamed more they would be a lot better.

The worst Generation Cover corporation has ever shit out. Somehow they hired 5 people with no drive, no interesting ideas, no creativity and no leadership qualities.
A year in, they've done nothing of worth.
Prior to debut people where worried Council was going to be lazy do nothings riding off Myth's fame and that's exactly what happened.

>>30600572
>Council is fun to watch, but they don't have the "idol dream" that Myth has.
The only person in Myth that cares about the idol dream is Kiara, the rest could give less of a shit.

>>30564393
>Fauna
My favorite. Love me some Fauna. Simple as.
>Mumei
Sweet, funny, makes Fauna happy.
>Kronii
Like the gap moe. Makes funny noises when flustered.
>Sana
Passionate about art. Sad to see her go.
>Bae
Pushes homoEN. Screw her. Only tolerated now because of BaeRyS shenanigans. Otherwise, dropped.
>IRyS
Lovable dork. I always find myself staying in during the talk portions by the end of her streams.

I don't think they have anyone I like as much as Ina and Goomba any more now that Sana's gone, but I think they're more consistent than Myth overall, with my two favorites being the only ones in that gen to land for me at all.
IRyS being rolled in with them now gives them a huge boost, her solo streams are some top notch retardkino.

>>30600111
Solid streamer that treats her fans really really well. It's really hard to not have positive feelings about her even if she's a regular girl with no talents.

>>30606737
>It's really hard to not have positive feelings about her even if she's a regular girl with no talents
It helps that she doesn't have a fanbase as obnoxious as teamates in spite of this

>>30606880
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now, her fanbase are extremely obnoxious numberfags

>>30605609
The only ones I see staying on long term are Fauna and IRyS. Rest are college girls and a pro VA though admittedly I don't know how busy she gets.
Out of Myth, Ina is obviously the one who could pull out first. Gura and Ame are enigmas and are probably wondering themselves how committed they are to this. The remaining two are probably in it until they can find independent success at the very least.
I have no intelligence on StarsEN and their ambitions.

>>30607083
I actually don't mind simple numberfagging if we're going comparing them to teamate tactics.