/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30512817
How new?

Because pomu said it is an all out war

>>30512817
It's going to happen. Tempus get on well with the new wave and they'll use the boys to test the waters. It will most likely end up kino and that will allow Kiara and Pomu to collab.

I used to always blame that faggot Omega but seeing Pomu's bag on Kiara's stream has made me think its the NijiEN management that's blocking things.

I dont get it, why not just collab anyways? Its not like they will get fired. Women are such brown-nosing rule cucks its pathetic.

Shut the fuck up. No one cares.

>>30512817
EN management is no fun allowed incarnate

>>30512817
Fired that chinese NijiEN manager and we will see collab soon.

>>30513220
The IPO really fucked things up for their EN branch. To make things worse, Hololive now have EN males that are actually really good. The last thing Nijisanji wants is the Luxiem fanbase to find them.

>>30513198
NijiEN has big fanbase in China, so makes sense they don't want to piss them off.

>>30513240
"No one cares" he said, clearly enraged and caring.

>>30513849
They only got a big chink fanbase starting with Luxiem, and collabs were blocked even before they came on the scene.

Kiara simply needs to state that Taiwan is not a country.
She can collab with Pomu after that.

>>30513257
>Collab with NijiEN beggars
>Fun
Choose one.

>>30514198
No I'll choose both you tribalist caveman

Who actually wants this keep your piss out of my wine Nijisanji Mutts. But nice try anon

>>30513257
This but unironically.
limiting Tempus' streaming to just ONE hour tells a lot about that black company Cover

>>30514572
Delusional unityfag.

>>30512817
Collab beggars should collab their neck with a noose

>>30514173
They got a big Chink fanbase starting with VirtuaReal. Well, might or might not be as big as Luxiem's, but it wasn't something they could just throw away willy nilly either; Especially after seeing how Bilibili (not just the Chink antis) reacted against Hololive.

>>30514762
Maggie blew out his voice reading super chats. He needs to put his foot down like altare did.

I hope NijiEN and HoloID get to collab someday

>>30515057
No way fag, i only allow lili

Kill yourself, my man.

cover is the one blocking collabs because they don't allow niji material on their official subr*ddit

>>30513849
Trust HoloJP and NijiJP management to find common cause against that

>>30512817
What does HoloEN stand to gain out of a collab with NijiEN? Genuine question.

>>30517722
go back

>>30513150
If that's the case then why did Kiara say "Looking at recent developments, it just feels like it's never gonna happen"

>>30517787
Pomu and Kiara having steamy hot sex on stream

>>30514572
>>30514847
Just fucking kiss already.

>>30514198
I really pity holobabs. Watching inferior boring streamers who hate streaming only because of the brand.

>>30513198
what??? Pomu has done reviews of people rooms and whenever Holo merch showed up she would talk about it a bit and showed it.

I don't care. I don't like EN nijis. I don't even want to see such collabs.

>>30512817
Corpos are gonna be corpos. Outside of Kiara it's not like any of the other HoloENs will want to collab outside the group so who the fuck cares about this anymore? We don't need to mix all groups together and there's nothing stopping (You) from watching both.

>>30517787
Thinking positively, the groups in HoloEn are quite small and weak and they stream so rarely it's hard to get people together.
Basically you're in SNOT or CHAD or you're alone.
Adding NijiEN might improve group dynamics and better collabs overall since more people will find "good like-minded groups" and have more opportunities for character arcs.
That said, HoloEn are mostly solostreamers.

>>30518088
Based. I don't give a shit about Nijiniggers.
Collab beggars and unityfags should get the rope

>>30518186
Pretty sure Towa is an example of this from the JP branch since her closest friends are probably in VSPO.

>>30514911
>Chink fanbase in JP
>JP's can collab with other JP's just fine.
Chink fanbase isn't a proper answer anymore otherwise it would include every branch, it doesn't.
It's strictly EN vs EN and no one fucking knows why. Pomu could show off holo merch on stream, Kiara could show Pomu's bag, etc.

>>30518144
Unityfags don't understand boundaries and want everything they watch to be the same. It's why they keep pushing "muh corpo collabs" like anyone gives a shit other then Kiara.

>>30513849
>still kneeling before chinks
retards without morals

>>30512817
Here's your Same Reply for 100th time

>>30513198
>Pomu does a room review full of Holomerch and name-drops a bunch of them
Holoretard...

>>30518405
>Collabs blocked even before this ever happened
Get new material, sister.

>>30517850
Because Kiara is a moron who always runs her mouth in dumb ways that creates more pointless drama where there shouldn't have been any.

>>30517787
This, hololive is very calculated, they only collab if they gain big from it, and will ghost them if they doesn't gain anything, collab with niji only makes them lose more view

>>30518405
whats wrong with this image though? nothing is a personal attack or insult, its just someone being a retard numberfag

>>30517787
Having fun?

>>30518326
Bae and Miori was nice, sad that she had to ditch Tsunderia for it to happen

>>30518475
>nothing is a personal attack or insult
Thats copium anon
The damage is done
Kiara already told that collab with pomu might never happen

>>30512817
Blame ENMA because the Discord server told us to!

>>30518186
Typical Nijinigger. They stream there’s just not fucking 26 of them to cover 24 hours of a day.

>>30518701
>They stream
You wouldn't get that impression from the state of this board lmao

>>30517836
He isn't wrong faggot. Ball has always been in HoloEN's court, they just have tyrannical management and they're scared they'll lose more fans to NijiEN like they have been for a year now.

>>30517787
HoloEN is the one blocking it. They're afraid of losing more viewers to the objectively more superior English branch. But I've been wanting a Pomu and Kiara collab for a year now.

>>30518701
If they streamed then we wouldn't get constant posts on the catalog about X HoloEN member not streaming.
No, they aren't falseflaggers if they're posting proof of their supers or their memberships.

>>30518088
I don't care either. I don't like EN holobabs. They're too boring and neutered. I want one Pomu and Kiara collab so the rrats stop but after that no more. I don't want Holobronies on my streams.

>>30518467
Mikosisters you told me she never collabed with males, what happened?

>>30518918
TRANNIE DETECTED!!

NijiEN is the blocker, clearly because even Ollie got blocked but she can collab with everyone else?

Those cunts are too busy gossiping about Hololive like little high school bitches so it's 100% understandable.

>>30518792
>>30518837
Do nijikeks only give a shit about collabs so retarded bird woman and dumb elf bitch can have seggs on stream?
Literally that's the only argument and complaint from unityfags about "muh blocked collabs" I've seen.

>>30518312
>It's strictly EN vs EN
The Ollie x Selen collab got canned tho, it's clearly NijiEN management doing this

>>30519096
Well... they're HoloRejects afterall
Imagine them seeing the supposed to be them in holo
but here they are, in Nijisanji's Labor camp

>>30519238
Proof next thread? Why would I trust the agency that puts a 1 hour streaming cap on its newest male livers?

>>30519258
IRyS is a Niji reject you have no power to say what you just said.

>>30518312
Agreed. Tribalist fags in this place keep wanting to blame the other side, but there's no explanation that really makes sense. It really seems like there's just some weird grudge thing going on between the two managements.
The JP brances on both sides should just step in and put an end to this. It's kind of an ugly stain on the good working relationship these companies have had for years.

>>30519287
You mean the stream cap that makes it easier for new people to look at their content and prevents them from over doing it in their first month? That streaming cap?

>>30519338
Nope, IRyS auditioned to both holo and niji
She choose Holo
period

>>30519384
It's been more than a month since they made their debut retard. And there's no streaming cap for ILUNA. I think I know who's valuing their livers more.

>>30519361
the fucking holosubreddit reinforces this tribalshit, what do you think. Tired of this forced unity garbage when niji gets nothing out of it

>>30519403
And to this day she made the worst mistake of her life and when she graduates this year you'll be out of copes. If she did it all over again she could have been Enna and possibly better than she is right now.

>>30519436
>more then a month
>2 weeks
retarded nijinigger anon....

>>30519338
Not much of a brag considering Niji is clearly doing quantity over>>30519361
quality.

>>30519238
Except that Selen is the one who announced that collab was even happening after being given the greenlight from management.

>>30519495
>she could have been Enna
HOLY MOTHER OF COPE!
Sorry anon, she prepares to be HOPE

I'm Pomu

>>30519361
It is 100% HoloEN management if the subreddit isn't enough proof for you. But OK, keep saying that both sides are being tribal and it's clear that there's only just a shot at NijiEN management for WANTING the collabs to happen. But it's no use, maybe there's no use collabing with them if one side's clearly scared of exposing its fans to objectively better livers than Holoshit. But at the cost of getting bronies in chats? Hell no.

>>30519605
Nude Pics of FAKE

I don't watch HoloEN so I don't really care about collabs with them, aside from Pomu and Kiara because they both clearly want to. As for the reason why, I blame a series of retarded decisions by both sides over the last year, and by this point there's clearly too much bad blood between the managements (NijiEN debut sniping Tempus with Iluna, HoloEN making Gura stream over every new NijiEN debut) it won't happen unless there's a management overhaul in both branches. Tribalfaggots claiming their team is totally innocent are retards.

>>30517722
Explain this then. Why did Hololive allow it but Nijisanji delete it?

>>30519516
There's no streaming cap for ILUNA.
Get a better comeback or I accept your concession.
>>30519583
And regrets it to this day. Why cope?

>>30519673
>HoloEN making Gura stream over every NijiEN debut
So THAT explains why she's unhappy and doesn't want to stream? Believable rrat.

>>30517787
NijiEN numbers keep getting better HoloEN numbers keep going down.

>>30519699
>regrets it to this day
Pretty sure that's not the case

Segregation is good

>>30519466
>>30519642
Explain
>>30519698 if it's the Holo subreddit and not the Niji subreddit

>>30519699
iluna is doing absolute dogshit compared to Tempus at the moment so I'm pretty happy.
blame management all you want but nijiniggers are just pathetic for collab begging while acting all uppity

>>30519698
>Please just be supportive of both talents. No more dirt-throwing at either side (or both) whether talent or company
I think we now know who the obsessed ones are and it's definitely not Nijibros. Hell mention Hololive in the Niji Reddit and I doubt people will care. This is why a collab is pointless, why do it when Holotards are the most triggered people in the world that get upset over a simple hello on Twitter?

>>30519869
>iluna is doing absolute dogshit compared to Tempus

In what alternate universe? Ren or Maria get 3x the vod numbers Magni does.

Those screenshots of NijiEN discord killed all possibilities of that happening.

>>30519819
Duh, I know.
>>30519869
ILUNA isn't part of the one restricting their livers just one hour to stream. It is morally correct to shit on Holo management.

>>30519869
tempus is the first starsEN wave and they're doing the same or worse than iluna. Sit down. Holo doesn't value airtime at all and that's why their viewers are tanking

>>30519877
>Hell mention Hololive in the Niji Reddit and I doubt people will care.
So if this is true, why did the post in the Nijisanji subreddit get deleted?

>>30519936
Just further proves how sensitive as fuck the Hololive sphere is to these things. To this day they still think that Sasaki is a bully that caused Yamiyono to graduate.

>>30519869
>muh CCV

Cute bots Yagoo.

>>30512817
Because they give the fans what the want, and EN fans are into retarded tribalism.

>>30520035
Because it was offtopic? Maybe Pomu's POV would have been better for that subreddit?

>>30519936
not really, holos seen it but dont seem to care given Mori refollowed Vox after the fiasco. Its something else and probably just a carry over from NijiEN inception, rather than some discord image or chinese OL cope that came later. If I had to say, HoloEN blocked to prevent their rival to grow big and NijiEN blocked it to prevent their branch from becoming Hololite

>>30519936
Good. I'm glad fungus decided to numberfag like a retard since it made tribalfagging worse, what a miracle.

>>30520077
HOLY SHIT EVEN WITH BOTS THATS EMBARRASSING LMAO. How long until Holostars Gen 2 comes out and they're literal 3views?

>>30518144
I can see Bae collabing with Niji.

>>30518088
Yeah I've never understood this obsession some people have with cross company collabs. Probably the same flavor of absolute basedboy that creams his jeans over crossover episodes on TV. Basically I like X and I like Y, therefor X and Y must like each other and they'll be great together.

>>30519982
>Duh, I know.
You didn't look at the image, the Nijisanji subreddit removed a unity post while the Hololive subreddit did not.
I think both management teams are garbage but the lengths some of you will go to just to claim it's all x company's fault is retarded. Everything at this point suggests a mutual block.

>>30520133
I agree it was off topic, but I also think all the Nijisanji posts in the Hololive subreddit that got removed were also off topic so I dunno why people use any r*ddit stuff as a serious arguing point.
And I see the usual tribalshitters still talking about the discord leak are here and this thread is unsalvageable so I'm out.

>>30520211
Unityfags have this weird obsession with collabs like anyone really gives shit other then chicken woman. Almost none of the girls really care and solo stream just fine.

>>30520235
Because it was offtopic, dumbass. And mutual block my fucking ass. HoloEN management started this shit right around the time Kiara collabed with Nyanners and it was met with a negative reaction from Holofags, so they instructed her not to do it again.

>>30519819
>why nijisanji subreddit deleted picture from a hololive stream?
do holobronies really?

>>30520077
Tempus numbers are completely collapsing. Women got bored of them because they prefer the Nijis while male bro audience is not big enough.

>>30512817
fuck off with your begging

>>30514762
>making sure your talents dont destroy themselves
>black
do u really

>>30518701
>there’s just not fucking 26 of them
When nijiEN was only 10 (Lazulight, Obysidia & Ethyria) aka 1less than holoEN they will streamed less than niji

>>30520360
You don't fucking get it do you. You should be able to post about others' livers in respective subreddits without problem as long as it's on-topic, but for some reason Holofags don't have a semblance of self-control hence why posting Hololive streams as the OP gets deleted.

>>30520386
>>30520395
All the shit that got deleted from the Hololive subreddit was also off topic so what's the difference?

>>30518144
Ollie has wanted to collab since forever, what the fuck are you on about

>>30520420
The only reason Tempus has more view than iLuna was because iLuna's streams overlapped hard from the beginning, if they starting overlap, their true number will show

>>30520487
It's true. Shut the fuck up and call out your shitty management for what it is; tyrannical. There are ZERO streaming restrictions for ILUNA. Tell me again which management isn't black?

>>30518405
ONCE AGAIN
Fulgur did not say anthing that wasnt true or already being said here. And he already said he was a shit and a fuck up for saying this, and that he considered graduating. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID DISCO LEAK.

>>30520553
What are you on about?

>>30520587
vshojo

>>30520377
In case you are completely blind HoloEN girls stream very little and most of the time it feels like they are forced to stream. Meanwhile nijis not only stream much more they do far more collabs and guerilla streams. It's a completely different atmosphere where streams actually enjoy their job and have fun. And the collab culture is one of the reasons why this happens.

If HoloEN girls were allowed to collab as much as niji girls you wouldn't have crap like Gura streaming for 2h a week.

>>30520420
>as he says this vespers zatsu its now 4.4k and rising
lmao

>>30520377
They barely even stream in HoloEN

>>30520139
>NijiEN blocked it to prevent their branch from becoming Hololite
It's probably true that a collab block was in place for the first 6 months/until a certain milestone was reached to ensure they built an audience that wasn't completely composed of holotourists. They've achieved that now though, so the ban is probably still in place on the NijiEN side for some other arbitrary retarded reason

>>30520587
its for their own protection and to have consistency in streaming and numbers. the guys have already said they have blown out their voice from their own carelessness in the streams. but whatever man keep talking about MUH RESTRICKTIONSSS

>>30519877
>evidence that debunks my claim
>see that just proves my point further
schizo-kun...

>>30520377
>Unityfags
Part of the problem is calling them that because that's not what unity is. In the entire time I was on /jp/ and when /vt/ started unity never used to be some all encompassing thing for all vtubers. It was AT MOST company unity. You'd get fucking laughed at if you suggested that someone was anti-unity because they didn't want to see cross-company collabs. Somewhere along the way the original meaning got lost.

>still collab begging after /b/omu
You people are embarrassing, nobody wants you.

>>30512817
kys nijibeggar

>>30520922
that only made me like pomu more, what the hell are you talking about

>>30520525
>You don't fucking get it do you. You should be able to post about others' livers in respective subreddits without problem as long as it's on-topic, but for some reason Holofags don't have a semblance of self-control hence why posting Hololive streams as the OP gets deleted.
Holofags are retards and got deleted, sure. But if we're going that route then the reason the Nijisanji posts in the Holo subreddit got deleted is because Nijifags and Holofags were being retarded in the comments.
I'm fine with blaming Holofags for everything but the original argument was that cover was blocking the collabs because of the deleted posts, not that cover had to delete the posts because the Hololive fanbase is garbage. Everyone can agree on the latter part but there's no proof for the former.

ITT tribalfagging and schizoid rrats

Although I should've expected as much.

I prefer it this way, better safe than sorry. Vshojo being the perfect example on what happens when collabs go overboard. Their Minecraft server is a fucking mess.

>>30520837
Bullshit. ILUNA has all of this and no fucking streaming cap. Bull fucking shit. Enjoy your 2nd branch of Holostars being less motivated than the first.

>>30520673
>If HoloEN girls were allowed to collab as much as niji girls you wouldn't have crap like Gura streaming for 2h a week.
This is cope you hear coming from chumbuds. The truth is that JP Holos have no problem streaming way more than that despite having more obligations and recordings. Gura is just lazy and I'm tired of pretending it's management's fault.

>>30520922
>Pomu was an oldfag
She became my oshi after the leak lmao

>Holodiscords is completely free of Nijis and is all Holo
>Nijidiscords has people with Holo pfps and constantly post with Holo emotes rather than Niji ones
Seems like Holofags ban all Niji content and Nijifags allow it for some reason

Unityfags and their mental gymnastics are really funny.

>>30512817
EN management fears that the fanbases will be stolen.

>>30518446
I'm curious. Do you think doing looking at a fans room and commenting on hololive merch is on the same collaborative level as asking a talent to send in her bag and contents for a stream and reviewing her bag while namedropping her?

>>30520967
How were Niji being retarded for doing their homework well in advance? Enlighten me.

>>30520650
Follow the chain, people use the subreddits deleting posts as being proof one company is blocking another when the reality is that everyone who got deleted deserved to be deleted aa shown by the Nijisanji subreddit also deleting off topic posts.

>>30513012
does it matter?

>>30521232
>Do you think
no

>>30521222
Only Holoshit's lmao

>>30521237
How exactly were Niji doing their homework in any of this?

>Nijiniggers collab begging and unityfagging
>Also Nijiniggers proceed to shit on Holo in general and blame them for everything
And Nijikeks really wonder why no one fucking cares about unity

>>30520211
We're not talking about a kid wanting Sonic the Hedgehog and My Little Pony to crossover, we're talking about the big 2 vtuber corporations that also have collabed in the past but are not letting it happen for the EN side for god knows why

>>30521408
sup Axel

>>30521611
Recognizing the ramifications from collabing with Holoshit for starters? It's good they did that and Holoshit didn't even think about it.

niji gets nothing out of this collab so why would they beg
seriously lmao

>>30521761
No fucking shit I've been trying to tell the Holospazzes this for the past hour now.

>>30513220
>women are brown nosing rule cucks
Everyone knows this and it's such a huge problem God dammit

>>30521741
That would mean that Nijisanji is blocking the collabs and not Hololive which is the opposite of the original argument I was discussing
In the end who fucking cares though because the only collab people want to see is Pomutori and there's no other people who even look like they want to collab

>>30522078
That's not blocking them. That's doing your homework. Holoshit started the blocking anyways. Almost as if it's mutual but Niji never wanted to do it in the first place. Maybe stop begging for Niji collabs after you threw them under the bus before.

>>30521656
I see virtually no distinction between the two situations you just contrasted

>>30520617
>already being said here
considering the pure schizo shit that gets traction on this board, mirroring it is not a good thing.
he did apologize though so good for him.

>>30522181
>That's not blocking them
>That's doing your homework
>Doing your homework is blocking them
>Blocking hem is not blocking them
>Doing your homework is foing your homework
>Blocking your homework is blocking not doing them
>Homework your doing is doing your homework not

>>30522181
Bro even if you call it doing your homework a block is still a block. Anyway we can agree both companies don't want a collab at this point.
>Begging for Nijicollabs
Holofags are entry-level casuals who only watch clips, you think they're the ones begging to watch Niji collabs when most of them don't even know Vtubers outside of Hololive exist?

>>30520617
He should've considered harder. He ruined any and all chances for EN unity.

nothing worth considering because he did nothing wrong lmao

>>30521409
It's been proven repeatedly that nijimanagement is as complicit in banning collabs, zhang.

>>30522774
>He ruined any and all chances for EN unity
Pretty based honestly. Cross company unity does not and should not exist.

Do any nijiEN livers collab with with non-niji EN chuubas?
Do any holoEN members collab with non-holo EN chuubas?

>>30523113
Based. Unityfags deserve the rope.

>>30521083
they literally stream everyday and are always active what the FUCK are you on about my guy

>>30520617
he should reconsider and actually graduate

nina collabed with a random cooking vtuber yesterday. Niji does it on a regular basis

>>30523544
please dont hes the only nijien with asmr and zatsu that i can tolerate

>>30523511
Nijikeks don't watch Holo, anon. They just read rrats and act like everything bad ever is Holo's fault.

>>30520739
>le ccv

His actual views are trash.

>>30521096
EN management is worse.

>>30521096
HoloJP members don’t have the wake up super early for meetings and recording though, management is at fault somewhat for how tired/caffeinated Gura has been recently because they’re too retarded

>>30523658
its about on par with finana, which isn't too bad. again, you cant make me feel bad with numbers as a stars hako. vesper is good and consistent, and i will continue watching him.

>>30523452
Calling them unityfags is giving them way too much respect. True unityfags respect company unity, these new pseudo-unityfags just want to see all their shiny toys share a screen together.

Seriously , has any holoen collab with non-holo vtuber recently ? why you guys say NijiEN is the one who blocking collab lmao

>>30523818
The boys are doing so good especially for a Holostars branch. I'm so happy for them, they've been working so hard and Magni blew out his voice trying to be entertaining today, the boys need rest.

>>30521316
Don’t you know? It’s only bad when hololive does it, people still seem to ignore how somehow Ollie’s failed collab with NijiEN is Hololive’s fault

>>30523818
>its about on par with finana

Finana has one of the lowest averages in NijiEN. Also her ASMR has 120k views.

>>30523956
reread the last part of my post, dummy

>>30523889
and a ching chang chong to you as well sir

>>30523658
Since when do vod views matter at all? His monetization stream made more money than Bae's. A stars member outperforming holo girls. Tempus blew away everyone's expectations and they will continue to do so while you eat out your heart out of jealousy.

>>30523933
me too. i love them all dearly.
>>30523889
hakos collabed with miori recently

>>30523889
Bae and Miori literally did this

>>30523818
They are doing good for Stars standards but people shitpost about them beating Iluna which simply isn't true.

>>30523846
Your right. Actual unityfags don't constantly compare the corpos like one is better then the other. These aren't even unityfags, they're just beggars that read too many rrats.

>>30524042
>Since when do vod views matter at all?

Since forever? Like holy shit vod views are the most important stat on youtube.

>>30524060
>>30524067
Didn't she have to wait until Miori went indie to be able to do that ?

>>30518450
>implying
cope pomudachi. it's an all out war

>>30524060
The boys have been so wonderful since debut, I don't remember the last time I had this much fun watching chuubas. I'm glad they're enjoying themselves.

Hope nothing changes anytime soon. I don't want Kiara to cooperate with Nijien.

>>30524148
I thought it was cumulative hours watched and engagement through various systems like liking/commenting.

>>30519178
She's a fairy

>>30512817
Who cares whether they can collab or not? What benefit would it bring to the talent/liver on either side? Nothing. So why would they even bother?

>>30514738
fr though, why do these faggots want the two branches to collab so much anyway?

>>30512817

>>30524993
I do, maybe get out of here if you don't?

>>30517850
Didn't she say that before Tempus happened?

>>30524708
because Kiara and Pomu like each other and share a lot of interests
it's less wanting Niji and Holo to collab than it is wanting Kiara and Pomu together, there's practically no begging for anyone else

>>30512817
Hear me out, I'll be putting my fucking thin foil hat for this one. My theory is that they are not doing this for the sake of not "mixing", but that they are holding it for as long as possible, basically edging people into expecting the collab, so when it happens people freak out more than they should.

>>30520554
>HoloEN
>Ollie
Bitch you can't be this retarded

>>30525227
im sorry....i will do my reading comp reps

>>30524412
For prerecorded content channels, yes. Streamers care the most about CCW and SC numbers, for the most part they're not getting a relevant portion of their income just from video views. In particular vtubers care the most about merch sales but we don't have access to those, so the best we can do is look at how much paypigging goes on in their streams.

>>30525170
So basically it's collab begging over nothing then?
All this unityfagging is just because fags want 2 retards to collab on stream and literally no other reason.

>>30518766
Because this board is full of retarded thread readers who don't watch streams

>>30525342
Its actually because Kiara has yuribaited a bit over Pomu but otherwise yes. Its literally just KFP wanting to worship another yuri ship (that will sink instantly just like all the others).

As a holochad, I hope Kiara will graduate soon. Her incessant Pomu shilling is disrespectful towards the company and quite frankly, pathetic.
Fuck unity.

>>30525419
Well, shit. That explains everything then...All the retarded post about "muh unity" I've seen always end with "then Kiara and Pomu can finally collab!" and now I know why.
So, unityfags don't actually care about unity and just want their shitty yuri ship to happen that will probably be forgotten after it does.

>>30525419
>Kiara
>Yuribait
Nothing new here.

>>30525516
You can bait better than this anon, you lack nuance.

>>30525342
Yeah, both NijiEN and HoloEN seem content in their bubbles (Enna's a massive deadbeat but I don't think a collab with Mori is attainable)
People just want PomuTori, KFP have always been in Pomu's chat and Pomu is one of the biggest idolfags in NijiEN

>>30525596
Pomu debuted over an year ago. We've been hearing the Kiara x Pomu bait shitpost for around a year straight by now. No fucking shit there is nothing new here. The real question is when will these retards tire of it.

>>30525340
The leaked Youtube Studio page is telling another story. It's a nice income and they don't even have to lift a finger for it.

>>30525786
They won't, because yuribait is okay on their eyes for some god forbidden reason, and these schizos don't get tired of absolutely ravaging their dicks to the thought of a woman talking to another woman.

>>30514762
Your autistic weeb ass should already understand this, but black company doesn't mean what you seem to imply it means.
Just because it's black doesn't mean it's stupid and lazy.
If they made them stream more than they wanted, THEN they would be a "black company" just like in your wapanese anumays.

>>30526282
Anon PLEASE don't tell me you just fell for that bait...

>>30526282
Anons on /vt/ don't know what an actual black company is. They don't know shit about being worked to exhaustion to the point of death, getting paid in peanuts to work long hours, or allowing employees to work till they collapse.

A "black company" to anons on /vt/ are muh evil 1 hour streaming limits apparently. It shows they're terminally online rejects who don't have jobs.

>>30526617
>Anons on /vt/...
Don't know anything at all, they are literally as unhinged you can get, especially the ones who are constantly making new threads and maxing out their post cooldowns.

>>30512817
Who fucking cares about corpo collabs? Why do people keep begging so hard over this?

>>30526860
See this: >>30525419

>>30520587
Holofags are physically incapable of calling their management bad in any capacity

>>30526961
So all this because yurifags want to jack off to orange woman and that niji fairy on stream? For fucks sake, that's not even a good reason

>>30527102
It's insane because not admiting their management is bad makes holo talents look lazy and uninterested, it's actually absolutely hilarious.

>>30526860
They want to see streamers they like interacting without people in suits getting in the way

>>30527145
I could respect it if at least it was because people wanted to see two talents collab based on the idea they would mesh well and make a kino stream, but nah. Literally nobody ever names a pair like that (it probably doesn't exist), its muh carpetmunchers every single time.

JP and ID are cool, Maybe EN are too like Pomu and Kiara but would you really let them freely collaborate when Nijisanji was talking shit in discord about them?

Luckily only Fulgur aka a complete nobody anyway got caught saying crazy shit but it sets a bad predecent.

>>30527363
Can't believe all this unityfagging is because yurifags just want to watch girls munchcarpet, i guess that's why no one ever brings up other chuubas being good for collabing and it's always about orange woman and niji fairy, what massive waste of time

>>30527672
yeah so let them collab

>>30527768
NijiEN's management is justified in not wanting to anger the chinks just so two lesbians can ERP a handful of times on stream. If you're gonna be angry with anyone, be angry with everyone involved in the Taiwan yab.

Basically the only collabs you'd ever have a chance of seeing if the floodgates opened are Pomu/Kiara, Selen/Ollie, Millie/Moona and maybe Pomu/Fauna

>>30527884
Millie/Ollie too... I think.

>>30527873
>anger the chinks

they don't care about the women + management was cockblocking the girls before china was an issue + china never even bothered with HoloEN because Gura's fanbase was "too powerful"

>>30527920
Millie would get along with most if not all of HoloID

>>30527884
>>30527920
Millie would probably hang around with ID. Otherwise you'd see a one off thing with Kiara/Pomu and Selen/Ollie and literally nothing else. If tempus is included then *maybe* they could be in an Apex collab.

>>30518326
Yes, it would be better if EN vtubing is as open as in JP and ID.

>>30512817
The answer is that NijiEN has a massive chink fanbase, and if they collab with hololive they'll have a meltdown.

>>30519923
>vod numbers
no shit, retard. they have more subs than Magni.

>>30513067
jfc i haven't been active on /vt/ in months and people still can't stop posting this shit
it's like this place stuck in a fucking timeloop

>>30528189
>NijiJP also has a chink fanbase
>NijiJP collabs with HoloJP just fine
>Collab ban was in effect even before Luxiem existed
Yeah, not a reason.

>>30528550
Pre-Luxiem NijiEN was struggling, so it made sense for Cover to not give them any attention and try to keep them down.
Post-Luxiem obviously has the chinese question plus overall the EN branches seem much more competitive with each other than the JP ones.

>>30514195
Taiwan owns China

>>30518614
Fucking discordshitters

>>30520837
>their own protection
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30528546
This board's whole personality trait is holding grudges for the longest time

I only want NijiEN and HoloEN to collab because that is what pomu wants.
But having kiara next to pomu would show many holotards how much fun is pomu compared the borefest holobubble.

>>30531090
Because they have nothing more exciting going on with their life. Kinda sad

>>30520077
>Corpo whose male talents can rarely get above 3view range has their EN male branch perform like shit
Shocked, I say.

>>30520077
This is a great pic for a new post, Tempiss is a failure and holotards just deflected to iLuna to hide the reality.

>>30513198
They've always been the problem. It's pretty obvious at this point. We saw how Pomu has to subtly reference Pomu while Kiara can say it outright on twitter.

Why are holofags so obsessed with Pomu? You don't see /nijien/ or the lazulight split talking about Kiara all the time. Is it because the chicken has no real friends in all of hololive? Are they THAT desperate for her to have someone that shares her interests? Like, not even Pomu gives much of a shit about Kiara anymore, she mentiones her like once or twice per month. And now that Maria debuted Pomu has a fellow maid and idolfag in her own branch, she doesn't needs Kiara anymore.

>>30532525
they're literally starved for content to the point that they're invading niji fandom and bringing their holoshit culture with them

>>30525419
>Kiara has to yuribait with people outside of her own company
Oof, that's pathetic. Meanwhile Pomu has been yuribaiting with Elira, Finana, Rosemi and Millie without problems. Why is Kiara such a fucking leech?

>>30525579
At this point both branches have been so inundated in their own bubbles idk if anyone besides kiara/pomu would try and collab anyway.

>>30513849
Except they were blocked from collabs before NijiEN got a big Chinese fanbase.

>>30533104
>Pomu
She gives no shit about hololive anymore. Especially not now that her and rest of Lazulight are gonna be on the main stage in 3D during NijiFES. She got completely assimilated into the Nijisanji culture and has no need to care about people out of the niji bubble. Basically this is yet another tale of Kiara ttrying to get a friend in the vtubing sphere only for her to be thrown aside like everyone else did before Pomu.

>>30519238
>NijiEN management blocking collabs that would 100% boost viewership
Somehow I don't believe that.

>>30532041
how is Niji so good for men
honest, i'm thinking about it

>>30512817
1. NijiEN is run by nationalist chinks and Noor.
2. NijiJP is run by Japanese and NijiID is managed by Indonesians.
3. Since Luxiem, NijiEN has gained a giant chinese fanbase who all hate Hololive because of COVER "hurting the feelings of the chinese" or whatever bullshit they're brainwashed into believing. They would seethe and spam if there was a collab.
4. Some of the girls like Nina are sluts with no filter and Hololive fans don't want to hear them talk about how much they love fucking their boyfriends or how empowered they feel when they cheat on them.
5. There's no interest among core Hololive fans to watch their oshi talk to and interact with the most successful NijiENs, the males.

>>30519495
>And to this day she made the worst mistake of her life and when she graduates this year you'll be out of copes.
It's more of the opposite, she's doing great in Hololive despite the nerfs she had to deal with. If she were in Nijisanji she probably wouldn't get Hololive-tier love from a massive audience, she'd get less outfits than Council, and who knows if she would have that much MVs/albums that Cover gave her.

>>30537636
i haven't watched a single Niji EN, are they really that small that they can't afford outfits? genuine question. I don't know if it's rrats but I saw posts that says they only get outfit on certain subs? I hear more good news in Vshojo than them desu lol

>>30540101
Lazulight got outfits, and Pomu has 2 more in the works. They are also getting 3D in October.

>>30540159
that's cool, but why didn't the purple coco didn't get one? I just want that selanposter to be at peace

>>30540431
pardon the double words, I haven't slept yet kek

>>30532257
It's funny because even the bottom Iluna girls that get shitposted so much completely rape Tempus numbers.

>>30537423
Muh chinks rrat is complete bullshit since they collab with Vshojo all the fucking time.

>>30540101
Nijis get first free alt costume at 100k subs and every EN did that ages ago. Nobody really knows why Obsydia costumes are getting delayed but there are rumors of one of the artists being sick and shit.

And no they are not small this is Selen literally right now.

>>30540759
ehh, that's probably that new niji girl's scraps from her 1 million. If it doesn't pander me, a normie, they're not big enough. They seriously need to give her the outfits though. I was seething about Holox getting shit first before myth and council so I'd know what their fans feel

>>30541704
You people are fucking pathetic, you gain nothing from not watching them. It's your fucking loss.

>>30540594
They consider VshojoJP a different branch.

>>30540594
You can literally just go look at Nijisanji's Linkedin.
Or do you think all the chinese names there are managing/directing/producing the Japanese branch and talents?

>Nijiniggers collab beg and ask for muh unity over retarded knife ear woman wanting to fuck chicken
>thread devolves into bashing Hologirls and Tempus and sucking off chinksanji
Nijiniggers never change.

>>30542465
No only neets with no life lose nothing from watching trash. I lose my valuable time which I can shitpost.

>>30548766
I'm a Holofag, thank you very much.

>>30523113
As a HoloChad
I actually like Fulgur for destroying the UnityFAGS

>>30542465
Would rather watch HoloGirls than that dumpster sluts. The only girl i watch in them is Enna because of her singing voice.

Nijibros, what are we gonna do?

>>30556527
Based Fungus for shitting on unitfyfags

>>30512817
Jesus Christ, kill yourself newfag.

>>30512817
I mean it's not like the retards at holoEN management tried to sabotage NijiEN from the start by forcing their chuubas to stream at the exact same time as their debuts (not to mention those streams were unannounced or reschedules)
also announcing HomoEN auditions at the same time as luxiems debut (yeah I know the auditions have been up for a year now)
I get it who cares if your rival corp streams at the same time as your debut everybody does that all the time but since these 2 corps still haven't had collabs it just paints the action of HoloEN management as an attack rather than sheer coincidence

Yeah you could say it actually an all out war

>>30559754
Gura has streamed over the debut of every single Nijisanji EN wave. In 2 cases, she even did a double-stream just to cover the full time. Today is another example when she streams over Selen's highly viewed meme-stream. And keeps her stream going just long enough to cover the full time.

Gura is being used like a weapon to suppress the viewers in the rival corporation

>>30559888
I really do feel bad any time Gura is obviously getting forced by management to pull those stunts. Unless she's just become numb to it over time, it's gotta kill you inside to do shady shit like that.

>>30518467
Look at all those literal who Nijis trying to leech off Miko. Glad she ditched them

>>30528546
>it's like this place stuck in a fucking timeloop
how fucking new are you? thats it. thats literally it.the same retarded bait, the same retarded responses hell i am 99% convinced some people just go to the archive and copy paste shit sometimes. it was that fucking way on /jp/ and this shithole is no better.

>>30519642
>It is 100% HoloEN management if the subreddit isn't enough proof for you
Niji isn't on topic for the Hololive subreddit. Mods removing off topic posts and posts clearly trying to shill the Nijis doesn't mean they're blocking official collabs.

Kiara showed Pomus bag on stream, Pomu isn't allowed to even say Kiaras name or Niji management whacks her. It's Niji blocking collabs because of their chink audience.

>>30518467
Oh Zhang!

>>30561988
>Pomu isn't allowed to even say Kiaras name or Niji management whacks her.
Totally untrue. Pomu did a room review stream and purposely showed rooms with holo merch and mentioned holos by name, including Kiara, Ame, and Mori. And she didn't get bonked for it.

>>30561988
Pomu mentioned Kiara in hear MGS peace walker stream yesterday

>>30512817
A Nijis capable of not begging or is it in their very DNA?

>>30562396
Then why she can't shown the celebration message video that kiara said she sent to pomu.

>>30517787
Uhhh to have fun? Do you not have fun with friends anonchama?

yeah marine, you're probably not getting your wish. you can thank the pekoclique and the backstabber subaru for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbLSROI5nY
>b-but towa...
towa, mel and choco are probably the only ones who bothered networking outside of hololive for the past two years, kudos to them

>>30561819
Gura could also be a massive tribalfag and just do those streams to fuck with them.
Then again it's equally likely she doesn't even know what Nijisanji is.

>>30512817
One of NijiEN's managers and Omegay have a personal beef and they're taking it out on the girls.

>towa collabs outside of hololive
big news everybody

>>30520386
>HoloEN management started this shit right around the time Kiara collabed with Nyanners and it was met with a negative reaction from Holofags, so they instructed her not to do it again
And yet calli collabs with iron mouse freely