/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30261651
It was a lie? So what was the real reason for leaving Hololive?

DELETE NOW

>>30261724
Black model.

>She even disabled replies
Sanakeks explain?

>it's a real tweet

>>30261765
Wish she'd just admit that this was the real reason. She could even give a fake social justice explanation, like, "As an Asian person, I felt uncomfortable using a black avatar."

>>30261724
No genchink permission

>>30261651
Did she ever mention her back problems? or is it only the roommate. I wouldn't know because I don't watch her
Dark skin and stunted growth is the main reason

>>30262020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd9qVrFl28E

>>30261823
They're just like fandead.

>it's real
now that's fucking funny

Really passive agressive
She has a grudge

Whew.

>>30262147
That's just sad

>>30261651
ahahahahaha
holy fuck what a con

i feel so bad for the suckers she stole money from

>>30261651
>She really left Hololive because she wasn't allowed to stream chink games
Hooooooly shit, what a bitch

>>30261651
so its there more context? this reads like a reply to something else?

>>30262243
https://twitter.com/namgoreng/status/1556185875481915393

What if she just flat out hates vtubers and vtuber fans now. There's fucking Venom in that statement.

>>30262020
she had a full stream (after multiple months of barely putting in effort) claiming she had a back injury which is why she can barely stream for 1 hour without being in horrible pain, during her graduation announcement and her last month she made multiple references to "circumstances" that she talked with council members about which was the reason for graduation. Either she never had a back injury and was just taking the council members along for the ride or her back healed and the circumstances are something else

https://nyfco org/iluna/

Hey sisters lets head back to our discord

>>30261724
>People actually believed the back hoort meme.
Maybe it was true for the first month but anyone stupid enough to continue believing it is a retard. She didnt care about Hololive enough to continue doing it. Cared more about her career as an artist.

>>30261724
Chinese gacha art job > Hololive

>>30261823
so idiots don't go shitting up with the replies with heckin forbidden knowledge

>>30261724
Considering the barely stream and has now streamed gacha twice, I think we all know the reason.

>>30262270
I checked the quote tweets and every single one is kissing her ass so I don't even know who she's being so vindictive towards unless she's still browsing here after graduating and honestly that's pathetic.

>>30262206
He was her biggest paypig too.

>>30261724
Low numbers and shit model. Also lack of Genshin permisions.

>>30261651
What a bad hire
Ina lost her nepo card at least

So... how long until Vshojo debut?

>>30262334
Found the butthurt bread mutt

>>30262505
Next Niji wave for sure, they can play Genshin.

>>30261651
>Quitting holo because she couldn’t play chink shit on stream
holy fucking shit

>>30262505
Vshojo only hires you if you have huge numbers.

>>30262505
Long time. Vshojo only accepts established streamers.

>>30262395
Or so people wouldn't be able to call her out on her lies. Despite how she used to act like a tough cunt, she really has thin skin.

>>30262214
To be fair, she hardly steamed, so it's not like people were able to SC a lot

>>30262577
women are retards, being female and poor is almost impossible but women will find a way

https://nyfco org/vox-akuma-zense/

Omg sisters lets get back to discussing voxy poo, dont forget to make more Calliope threads and shit up her tiktok comments

>>30262458
Yikes

>>30262644
not clicking that link without my seven proxies

>Back healed right after graduation
Unfortunate coincidence haha

>>30262505
Chinks hate vshojo so no

>>30262613
that's still heckin forbidden knowledge faggot

I thought anons said she'll probably have back pain for the rest of her life?

FUCK YOU TEEHEE

>>30262816
https://youtu.be/ZB5ig6vpQug

>>30262334
>>30262644
Sanallites are taking this pretty badly I see

https://nyfco org/mysta-rias-zense/

Sisters lets all get back to the comments section to talk shit about the ID girl fucking OUR man

>quitting because they won't let you play your favorite game on stream
I dont care what your opinion on Genshin is, thats fucking based

>>30263078
Literal tantrum

Woman moment.
Why even bother saying stupid shit like this? Could have just never mentioned it again and wouldn’t have made a difference and not tainted her fans memory of her. It’s not like she’s going to be doing back flips on a trampoline and she just wanted to get ahead of the controversy of everyone calling her out on her back being ok. The tweet was unnecessary

>she unironically quit because she couldn't sit on her ass playing chink shit all day

>>30261724
Contract up and Hololive doesn't extend because she can't even fulfill her duty of streaming a mere 3 times of an hour stream in a whole fucking week

Why no one in the quoted tweets is angry about this, are Sanafags that retarded?

>>30262357
People, actually leddit sois, pushed the back hort thing HARD but couldn't reconcile the fact that someone with actual back issues wouldn't be fucking marathoning some game for hours and hours. They'd be doing short streams, not endurance chunks.
When confronted with this this response is always invective. Typical npc behavior.
I remember when they were pushing the whole
>she's totally working on some great and fabulous work for cover, guise!!1 that's why she can't stream she's BUSY
cope. And a week later it was revealed to be cope coz she wasn't doing shit for the project they were all saying she was involved in. Hilarious of it weren't so pathetic.
I'd feel sorry for sanalites but they had ample warning.
No sympathy for tards.

https://nyfco org/ren-zense/

Omg sisters can you believe hes married?
I cant even
Hey jannies, maybe you should clean up the whole board? The sisters are cranky...

>Nijiniggers chimping out because she's not dying of cancer
If you actually read Cover's statement and watched her streams it was obvious it was a contract dispute.

>>30261651
>Oh look another schizo thread
>I wonder if it's at least an edit of a real tweet or something taken out of context from a longer conversation
>It's fucking real
What. What the fuck? I could understand the "perfectly happy" part if it was in response to people bothering her about her past but how do you rationalize the "healthy" part?
What the actual shit.

>>30262474
Low numbers can be rectified through actual hard work.
Aka streaming your ass off.
>bad model
IRyS. Tempus.
Nuff said about that.
She was just a lazy nepo hire.

>>30261651
I remember when I was almost lynched here for even daring to question the seriousness of her back pains.

>>30263279
They got mindbroken. It's a common thing with vtuber fans.

>>30263279
proper etiquette is to LRT

>>30263279
Is there a reason to? If you care that much Sana disappeared with graduation. If you cared more about the person streaming than the character/company they streamed as/for they will be happy she's around still.

>>30263378
>Actually defending this
How? What she did was probably the worst thing a vtuber could do with her fanbase and coworkers. Also took the spot from someone else.

>>30261651
Jesus Christ, she left a job she didn't want whats soo bad about that.

What happened to the board-wide rule of not talking about VTubers personal lives?

>>30261651
>I don't understand, the water is wet? the fire burns? the light illuminates?

>>30261651
>I had forgotten about her already
At the end nothing of value was lost, I hope she stays happy and healthy that said I'm glad Cover didn't renew her contract

I laff at all weak faggots that gave her goodbye money or bought her rereleased merch out of a sense of pity or fomo.

>>30261724
she couldn't play any of the games she actually liked because of the retarded permission system

>>30263529
>slot wasted on nepotism hire
>takes 1 month off at the start
>back hort excuse to barely stream or do anything holo related
>says the only reason why she can do so much in her gratudation run is because of meds
>1 week later is suddenly completely fine and streaming chink games
Yeah, what's so bad about this?

>>30263569
No one cares.

>>30263529
>my back horts paypigs, shower me with sympathy because I can't stream for 5 mins
proceeds to endurance stream

>>30261724
who knows, maybe she just doesn't cares about making hololive money, i'm going with the rrat that she couldn't play the games she liked, to be honest, a LOT of the games the hologirls play fucking suck.

>>30263735
>enters Hololive knowing she can't play the games she likes
>has a friend working there so she would know what other stuff she would have to do
>goes for it anyway, stealing the slot of someone who would have done a better job
>quits because of stuff she would already have known
Still a bitch

>>30263279
Sanallites are retarded
The instant she announced her graduation they ran to her Ko-fi page to support her during her "hard times"

>>30263735
>a LOT of the games the hologirls play fucking suck.
I mean if you look at the games Sana streamed, it was mostly Metroid, Kirby and Pokemon.
Didn't seem like she had an issue with perms unless Mihoyo games are her true love.

>>30263279
Sanalites make Fandeads look like normal people.

>>30263876
>could've stayed streaming occasionally and showing up for events
>decided to cash out for immediate graduation money instead
yup

Lmao, someone finally questioned it.

https://twitter.com/lunullabee/status/1556197188811665408

>>30264073

literal containment breacher kek

>>30263691
>slot wasted on nepotism hire
how many of them do you want, all your doing is tacking away possible income from the others and even if you do get one worth watching your still going to have to put up with the rest of EN so why don't you go find someone who won't have that problem? HoloEN is only going to keep changing and become less and less like you want it

>>30261651
i wasn't convinced she left for health problems so this changes nothing for me.
if she's happy she's happy.
honestly it's the kind of reply i would expect for persistent trolls hounding her about streaming on her roommate after graduation. i hope she doesn't let them get to her.

>>30263569
>I-i'm spamming report but the jannies aren't doing anything NOOOOOOO HELP ME REDDIT HUGBOX BROS

>>30264073
>check twitter
>check her twitch from there
>Is a vtuber who is currently streaming for 7 ppl
Fuck now I feel bad for closing the tab

>>30261651
I dont watch her even in holo
My gut told me not to watch her Graduation
>My gut is fucking right!

>>30264008
At least fandeads got what they wanted out of their oshi, who literally fucked herself over to prove she was loyal to them. Sanalites got nothing.

>>30264328
>i hope she doesn't let them get to her.
Yeah, imagine if she suddenly put up a passive aggressive vague tweet with comments disabled. Stupid brainwashed dog.

>>30263526
At least it ended in good terms (until graduation), the "lie" to her fans... like everyone knew already, and about the spot taken well yeah, that's the true damage here... but EN 3 is getting closer and closer and we also got Irys as compensation, so that damage, that spot was already filled

>>30261941

Anyone that thinks she just couldn't stream her favourite games on her alt account is fucking dumb.

>>30261651

That sounds really awful. From first glance, it could be interpreted as her trying not to worry her fans. But I don't buy it. She doesn't give off a trustworthy aura.

>>30261765

It's not the skin. It's the derpy face with horrible rigging. Similar to Anya.

>>30262613
That's most people but especially women because they are not used to anyone actually challenging them.

>>30264328
If they didn't make her graduation seem like this unavoidable thing about her not being able to continue as a vtuber (which would imply she wanted to) then people wouldn't be thinking it was about health, considering it was her excuse to do the bare minimum for months.
Any way you slice it, it's a bitch move, because she either got sick of it after not even a year of not doing much.

I still want to know now, how could it have been "much worse" as she put it in her grad stream? Was she going to go nuclear and basically pull a Rushia before someone talked her down and convinced her do to all the collab streams and a proper graduation stream?

Ngl the character model she was given was a massive debuff. There's still a massive power vacuum in brown girl corpotuber character designs, and somehow Pako botched it big time.

She is such a fucking waste of a vtuber in hololive, just imagine if there were literally anyone else that took her spot?

>>30264736
No, Sana being a bad streamer was the biggest debuff.
You can give her the best model in the industry and she still would've flopped.

well, no matter how good the hiring process is, there will always be shit like this passing through, really glad she fucked off now.

>>30261651
Good for her, and good for Cover for yeeting her out the window. Now you guys can wait for EN3 who also won't stream just like the rest of HololiveEN. I'm going back to watch Magni's VOD.

Imagine getting what would be a dream job for a lot of people for shits and giggles and then quitting after a year of doing the least out of anyone.
And then admitting it right before your friends have their 1 year anniversary, where they have to pretend they are sad your lying ass isn't there.

>>30264631
>That's most people
Would agree with this, without the rest

>Selene Wellington is All VShoujo

>>30264736
>the character model she was given was a massive debuff
First debut, plenty of views and subscribers. Susan gutted them, but all she had to do was stream.
>dog died
>back hort
>"work"

>>30264839
>>30264986
Not saying that it was the sole reason, but it was definitely a debuff.
I mean Hololive has a good bunch of people who barely stream, yet still they somehow get a good amount of success regardless.

>>30264496
That's what I'm saying. I hope she just leaves it at that.
>>30264671
There wasn't any specific reason for graduation from what I can recall. I don't really want to speculate too much about it since it could literally be anything else at this point, but I don't see what the problem is with deciding you're not getting what you want out of a role. It's the ability to make such a choice that empowers the worker versus being scared of leaving a job since its your only livelihood.

>>30262369
>implying china is going to exist by the end of this year

>>30265323
>He fell for the memes
I don't like China either, but that's some heavy cope

>>30264830
We might've had another Ollie or Mori, so we dodged a bullet there

>>30265323
Did you buy the "dam is about to break" shit as well?

>>30265243
The thing is, they at least used to stream. Even fucking Ayame put up decent hours once upon a time and built up a fanbase.

>>30265426
>another Ollie
So Bae?

>>30265243
>I mean Hololive has a good bunch of people who barely stream, yet still they somehow get a good amount of success regardless.
Aqua and Ayame streamed a lot during the first few years and build a strong and dedicated fanbase. Aqua is using that to focus more on promotional work and concerts and Ayame is taking it easy

>>30265323
good for the gacha companies since most of them are based in HK and often have to go through a lot of shit to conform to the CCP demands

>>30265426
We don't even know if she would turn out that way since she streamed so little that she acted like she just got out of the collab ban whenever she talked to someone.

>>30261651
gaddamn. she took the opportunity away from an indie, only to quit in less than a year. can you imagine if she got one of the other council positions instead and we end losing one of the current girls because of it. now we will never know what 'Sana' could have been.

>>30263279
Bro, not everyone cares about hololive. Literally doesn't matter at all to me

>>30262020
>>30262125
>>30262324
that stream is now privated btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgzpshmBBQ

>>30265611
What a coincidence

>>30265320
>but I don't see what the problem is with deciding you're not getting what you want out of a role
Let's assume this was the case. She had someone who could describe to her in complete detail what the role was, and still decided to take it.
If she wants to stream chinese games, she knew she wouldn't be able to. Not only was her issues with the job predictable, she used a health excuse not to stream.
Assuming she is now ok, it was a lie because she kept on doing the minimum with everyone assuming it was health stuff.
In the end it was someone with a role that some would kill for, getting bored of it and making a big deal about leaving.
And then she posts this, when she really didn't need to.
And a couple of weeks from now we'll have 4 or 5 people having to pretend that it was sad for her to leave, when she displays this behaviour.
In short, nothing wrong about her leaving, but everything around it is just a dick move.

>>30261651
She'd better explain what the graduation was about then or else she just ends up looking like a massive lazy cunt

>>30265611
>took this down
>also most of Holoscopes
>except the first
>member stream (hot dog onesie)about why she stopped remained
?????

>>30265731
I would be fine with her being a massive lazy cunt. She lied. Twice. That's far worse.

>>30263569
This Twitter account isn't even a vtuber kek

>>30261651
Kek, that tweet straight up screams vitriol. Voluntary graduation my ass.

>>30261724
Management is REALLY bad
>Work on project for days, announce it and even work on stream for it
Management cancels it despite giving OK
>Propose a cool project for weekly streams
Management says no, no renegotiation
>Work on your regular thingy
Management says you can't do it anymore
>Mandatory meetings at most stupid of hours
Discounting the money and company being in hololive is an exercise in patience at best

>>30265682
I think a big thing here is either she lied to her management completely, or they at least let her keep her dignity and gave her an easy out. She could've just waited a few months and made "things are getting better!" tweets every few months and no one wouldve known better. Instead she decided to make this rash spite tweet and throw away a ton of good will for no reason at all.

>>30261724
1. Her art career is prospering
2. She hates omegatranny
3. She saw the dark future of EN

>>30263137
It's a pretty good reason, being forced to play the same rotation of mindnumbing shit games because Cover are pussies afraid of the mere POSSIBILITY that a publisher might C&D a video of someone playing their game (they don't; see: twitch) is faggotry of the highest order
If this is the reason, Sana is based
Genshin isn't the best game to leave over though lel

>>30263279
>WTF people actually like Vtubers for their talent and not the HOLOLIVE BRAND NAME they're attached to?

Holobronies are mentally ill

>>30265838
Then why is this thread allowed?

>>30265847
Yeah... sounds passive aggressive as fuck.

>>30265855
I'm not saying it's perfect but frankly this sounds pretty normal. Maybe niji is just free and better but most people would kill for this level of management. Boo hoo, a few nixed projects. Honestly at this point even kson sounds like a retard with her passive aggression.

>>30265904
Welcome newfag sanakek

>>30264148
>why would you want somebody different
Do you notice how some JP members have similar laziness? It's definitely not as much of a glaring flaw because it's not 80% of the entire fucking branch like EN. There's nobody picking up slack.

>>30265855
Then she could have left with the same excuse as Coco, creative differences.

>>30263569
That's a fucking gay 'rule' anyways

>>30265935
The catalog is filled with dox threads now. Take a guess.

>>30265789
>lied
Why do you brain dead cunts think she's lying about the injury? Because of the tweet that she's healthy and happy?

Should she have tweeted that she's in visceral chronic pain and suicide is an hourly thought? Sometimes I forget the "people" I share a board with are like...

>>30265904
>they don't; see: twitch
So you don't know how anything works, ok.

>>30266041
Why?

>>30266067
>>Should she have tweeted that she's in visceral chronic pain and suicide is an hourly thought?
Yes. I would read that, smile, and never think about her again. Now the stink of her lies will linger over the company forever.

>>30261651
Meanwhile, Watame:

>>30265995
Genuinely the only Sana streams I watched any of were her debut and graduation, but the disparity between the mood of holos vs any other vtuber in existence is pretty stark
Korone bretty basado for circumventing Cover's homoerotic behavior with old games though
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DRAW TAILS ONLY SONIC NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
kek

>>30265913
what is sanas talent? not streaming?

>>30266067
I'm actually just fucking amazed at you cucks' ability to lie to yourself here. Do you have zero social intelligence? Are you in need of a bridge right now? You people are so fucking stupid.

>>30266088
>must...defend...corpos...
The only time there's ever an issue is when there's copyrighted music and even then it's usually just some faggot bot flagging the video
Game companies actively give out keys even to low tier streamers because they understand it helps boost sales for people to stream the games, Cover management is literally retard mode and are the only ones that are that anal about it (which directly helps Niji)

>>30266166
Sheep too good for this world, too good for this bitch that's for sure.

>>30261651
She just hates Holostars EN that much.

>>30265855
>could have renamed Kuso Mondays
>dropped Holoscopes herself because thin skin
>explicitly stated she didn't want to draw much after promising it as member content
>two several month breaks in quick succession not even half a year in
You can't blame management for this.

>>30266146
Because who gives a fuck dude
Oh no I know what some streamer chick that lives 18 hours away looks, the world is ending
>b-but there might be some schizo that wants to kill h-
There isn't and it has never happened

>all of those literal faggots that cried over her graduation
rumao

>>30265320
>>30265682
Okay.
You want my rrat?
Here's my rrat.
She ended up making a lot of assets for Holopro, but instead of being paid for her normal rate as a professional artist, management probably told her it was within her duties as a talent and deciding it was unfair and not worth her time she didn't renew her contract when negotiations didn't work out.
Her mentioning "back" problems was just alluding to how she was carrying aspects of the production. The EN girls seemed genuinely distraught about the news because Sana did help a lot; they say things to such an effect in Smol Councilrys. In her bday message to Owl, she mentions that Council would be most aware of the circumstances.

>>30265865
>She saw the dark future of EN
And is apparently completely blind to the even darker future the changs have in store for her.

>>30266220
>zero social intelligence?
I wonder what percentage of this board's users are actual low functioning autists.

Now that we're shitting on her - holy fuck is she a dog cunt, what an unfortunate looking creature.

>>30261651
How would you guys even know this is Sana

>>30265904
>being forced to play the same rotation of mindnumbing shit games
Korone, Watame, and Subaru prove this is complete bullshit. Sana just wanted to play Genshin.

>>30266359
Why do you come to a VTuber board if you don't want to talk about VTubers? Are you really this fucking retarded?