/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2997286
Pre-recorded on the right

>>2997308
I was going to say this as a fucking joke. But you fucks are actually schizo if you believe that.

>>2997308
Please never change

>>2997308
I belieb it

did something as fucking stupid as this shitty rrat really needed a thread of its own? wtf happened to rrat containment threads?

>>2997286
I don't believe the rrat, but it actually seems like aria's might be prerecorded. (Though apparantly that's pretty normal for ASMR vtubers).

>>2997502
Jannies didn't care enough to enforce them so they never took.

She's streaming from the parallel universe on the aria account.

>>2997571
Nice try schizo, but she's interacting with chat.

>>2997286
Again? Aria asrm could be prerecorded. Deal with the rrat!

>>2997286
Rrat 2: Autistic Bungaloo.
Aria is in fact Haachama's twin sister irl and she was involved in the whole Akai Haato vs Haachama storyline. Basically Haato wanted to introduce her as unofficial Hololive member swapping places with her every time Haachama would need a day off. Sadly higher-ups from Cover corp realized what was her plan and stopped it before it get too big so Aria returned to her actual channel.

>Haachama + Aria = Haachariama
>Buddhist deity of revival and circulating madness

Where have I heard this before???
https://youtu.be/VkjW2oNb5TI

>>2997658
this is the reason for her month break and cancellation. Also, remember when she said she was going to do a stream, then her sister told her it was a dumb idea, and that kickstarted the first voidchama stream and the schizo arc?

Also haachama's sister liked it so she went for Re:Act. She's streaming ASMR from haachama's main PC while haachama sings in 720p in her old one.

>>2997308
Ame commented in her chat and she replied to it.

Also she said she was gonna sing Red Heart and moved on to reading superchats then realized she forgot to sing Red Heart.

>>2997600
I keep checking in and haven't seen her interacting with the chat once but it's possible I just missed it. I can't stand ASMR streams so I'm not going to put myself through one in its entirety just to (dis)prove the rrat.

>>2997743
If only Haachama was skilled with video editing?? And using her shitty laptop because the other PC is doing rendering.

>>2997743
Why would Aria need to use Haato's PC to stream ASMR? All it requires is a mic.

>>2997787
She's literally interacting with chat right now. No need to postpone your rrat's death

>>2997765
Ame is a time traveler

>>2997833
It’s live rendering the chat over 1080p recorded video while streaming. So more RAM presumably.

>>2997833
Thanks, now I'm imagining a dumbass anime girl trying to plug her ASMR mic directly into the ethernet socket in her wall.

>>2997286
Different timezones. Right one was recorded when haachama was in aus

>>2997286
ASMR streams are generally pre-recorded, newfren

>>2997935
now that is some real Voice over Internet

>>2997971
I haven’t seen a live stream that is able to be paused, is that common?

>>2997286
Their faces look really similar.

>>2998002
not very common no

>>2998002
>>2998039
Very common, yes. Literally every live

>>2998002
It's the default, you have to turn off DVR in your Youtube settings to disable rewinding/pausing. Hololive does this because DVR makes things easier for clipfags to clip yabs and also pushes the stream through the Youtube content ID system as it's being streamed.
Sometimes Holos forget to turn it off though, like Coco's latest costume reveal.

>>2997490
Chink retarded meme kys fag

>>2998002
It's a setting you can enable when you stream on Youtube. I see it used pretty often outside of Hololive.

>>2997896
Yep. I just saw her read a comment from the chat, so unless this is some 5head sock puppet planted comment shit then they're different people.

>>2998074
>t. clipshitter

holy shit at least learn Japanese you fucking peanut brain

>>2998116
That guy is everything awful, his name was “funny Internet meme” or something before he change it to that.

>>2997308
Yes

Anyone post this yet

I'm not funny enough to come up with am image idea so I'll pass the buck on that

>>2998483
These fags never deliver, some anon also said he'd eat his own shit if they weren't the same person.

>>2998701
Don't give Chama any more ideas for her next Haachama Cooking stream.

>>2998483
>>2998701
they are the same person you retards

>>2998876
Cope harder you bottom feeding fuck

>>2997286
rrat evolves
aria is haato's sister

>>2999475
This one I can get behind, if only for shits and giggles

>>2997765
I mean, if she was going to make it look like it wasn't pre-recorded the post she reacts to has to come from someone in Hololive.

>>2999475
Can't she just be someone completely unrelated to Haato IRL, but is a fan of Haato so she's practiced a lot to sound like her? Like Pekora's laugh has been copied by both Kiara and Reine and nobody even believes Pekora was related to either of them before they joined Hololive

Imagine STILL being in denial
https://files.catbox.moe/57gy4g.mp4

>>2999593
>YOU'RE RIGHT

>pretending to still believe they're the same person
>falling for it and replying seriously to people pretending to still believe they're the same person
You niggers need a hobby, or a job.

I fucking hate that “@Hi Honey” faggot. He kept spamming she should stream for 24 hours then demanded 72 hours, until eventually she started to cry a bit.

>>2999918
keep coping, you'll reach acceptance sooner or later

Aria’s is obviously prerecorded
>b-but muh chat
Also prerecorded, retard. She set up a few dozen bots to post using an automated algorithm.

>>3000223
kek

>>3000223
the chat isn't pre-recorded, the asmr is. it's like you don't understand how obs works.

>>3000223
I sold Aria the bots, I can confirm this.

>>3000349
it's like someone doesn't understand japanese at all anon, she even repeated my message

>>3000391
she did no such thing schizo

>>2997308
She has an extended bit at the start responding to a random chat member who says they're wearing just a bra schizochama

Aria arsm audio was prerecorded, not haato.
This is also why chammers are using her old pc during singchama...

>>3001699
>This is also why chammers are using her old pc during singchama...
I was wondering about this, that explains it.

After watching today’s streams there are a few things I can say with absolute certainty. I won’t speculate to their meaning.

1. Haachama and Aria streamed at roughly the same times. (At least 30 mins concurrently)
2. Haachama interacted with the Live Chat
3. Aria did not interact with the Live Chat
4. Haachama mentioned that she had 2 computers and was streaming on her laptop in 720p.
5. Aria was streaming in 1080p

Additional Information
1. The classical music that Haachama uses is “Aria on the G Strings” by Johann Sebastian Bach
> https://youtu.be/VkjW2oNb5TI

Analysis of “Revival” stream
> https://youtu.be/vsqCbRLvbOY

>>3002126
>3. Aria did not interact with the Live Chat
But she did?

You could probably come up with 100 ways to fake it, but how many of those ways would be low INT enough for Haato?

>>3002126
I was watch both stream simultaneously and this was the exact moment that Aria’s stream started.
> https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

>>3002126
I was watching both streams simultaneously and this was the exact moment that Aria’s stream started.
> https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

>>3002126
This is a good summary of what happened

>>3002126
>3. Aria did not interact with the Live Chat
She did. your rrat is dead

>>2998091
I don't watch much of her, but the small # of Coco's streams I watched since February were able to be paused/rewinded. I think she just doesn't bother with it.

>>3002536
>>3002647
You didn't even watch the stream, did you?

>>3002675
I did, retard. Maybe you should too

>>3002675
I did. If it wasn't an ASMR stream I'd pull up the archive and point out to you when she read comments.

>>3002126
>>3002675
>replies to a comment praising her singing
https://youtu.be/T5ELpE3QVJs?t=6067
Next rrat, schizo

>>3002871
EOP

>>3002871
Schizos BTFO'd.

>>3002871
That isn't what happens at that timestamp but the EOPs will believe you anyway. I'm sure lying to beat the "rrats" is a noble deed in your mind.

>>3002536
Haachama is not dumb at all, she is very skilled with using video editing software. Every Hololive member has at least one skill that they are exceptional at, it is a prerequisite on the current application. >Music, Art, or Video Production.
Using HoloEN as an example:
>Mori - Music/Art
>Kiara - Music/Art
Ina - Art
Gura - Music/Video Production
Ame - Video Production
Video Production includes Streaming experience.
Haachama started streaming at 16 and even though she is self taught in using Video Editing software, she has 3 years of relevant work experience from being a streamer.

>>3002962
>>3003037
Are you literally retarded? She replies in English. Fuck off and take your meds

>>3002675
>he can't read hiragama and hear the asmr at the same time
kek

>>3002536
Haachama is not dumb at all, she is very skilled with using video editing software. Every Hololive member has at least one skill that they are exceptional at, it is a prerequisite on the current application.
>Music, Art, or Video Production.
Using HoloEN as an example:
>Mori - Music/Art
>Kiara - Music/Art
>Ina - Art
>Gura - Music/Video Production
>Ame - Video Production
Video Production includes Streaming experience.
Haachama started streaming at 16 and even though she is self taught in using Video Editing software, she has 3 years of relevant work experience from being a streamer

>>3002871
Prerecorded comment. Gotta have at least one to fool the gullible

>>3003146
Hilarious

gotta admire the stubbornness

>>3003204

rrats are very resilient and resourceful creatures

>>3003146
All she would need to do is send herself a message at the right time during her stream. She could easily do that from her phone, in between songs or while singing.

>>3003287
you can even check the channel that message came from, it's very clearly a sockpuppet

>>3003287

Imagine running two PC's streaming at once while singing and having a phone on standby to send a perfectly timed chat message

>>3002871
She wasn’t singing.

>>3003425
This was well after Haachama stopped singing.

>>2997914
Haato killed herself and Amelia accidentally imported two Hachaamas instead of one to this timeline

>>3003514

Yeah, but the mental image is funny.

>>3002126
Perfect summary, thanks, anon

>taking requests from chat
https://youtu.be/T5ELpE3QVJs?t=3140
rratbros........

>>3003622
Sorry for deleting the comment you responded to
> This was well after Haachama stopped singing
I was going to delete both and combine them.

>>3003656
Haachama’s singing stream ended about one hour in to Aria’s ASMR stream.

>>3003656
you just linked a random timestamp, didn't think anyone would click it?

>>3003740
you just said some random bullshit, didn't think anyone would click and see her taking requests?

>>3003761
>hurr durr she can't say she'll be taking requests and then proceed to make the same noises she has been for the last hour

>>3003437
It’s odd to switch from Japanese to English to compliment someone’s singing during an ASMR stream.

>>3003802
>hurr durr it's not like she's reading the exact comments being said in chat

>>3003832
nigger i can read kana you aren't fooling anyone

Everybody who still believe this rrat are legitimately mentally ill.

>>3003810
reading random english comments they don't understand then just saying "thanks" is something smaller vtubers do all the time

>>3003849
>it's a random timestamp lol
>actually, she's indeed taking requests
>umm chat is not actually requesting anything
Next cope

>>3003984
You can't read the comments you're talking about, can you?

>>3003377
Yep. The sad truth is even when Chama is done lying to Haatons and graduates in a few weeks, people will still insist she didn't lie to them to take paypig money, they are two different people and it's all Cover's fault.

>>3003984
Haachama wasn’t streaming at that point.

>>3004041
Can you? Or are you just gonna rely on EOPs believing you and not checking what the comments are saying?
>>3004074
She was

>>3004044
You would think all the old Haatons would be happy, she is everything the supposedly want. Akai Haato (loli) that actually streams, with no schizo lore. The only ones that should be mad are the ones that came during the schizo arc, that only want that kind of content.

>>3004142
>Can you?
Here we go retard. I'll do red, you do blue.
>gomu gomu
>mera mera
>goro goro

>>3004254
True Haatons are haachamachama and want to support her whatever she wants to do. You're the opposite, you're an anti

>>3004142
Haachamas singing stream ending roughly one hour in to Aria’s stream.
>Singchama - 9:00 am EST / 1hour 40mins
>AriaASMR - 9:30 am EST / 2hours

>>2997286
They're both pre-recorded, the bra girl in Haachama's chat was Aria and Aria is responding to haachama's chats

>>3004339
Anti what exactly? You don’t even know how to use that saying. You are basically admitting to being a schizo arc newfag.

>>3004299
>No replies
Deniers confirmed EOPs

>>3004339
>True Haatons are haachamachama
Do realize how stupid you sound right now?
>I support her unless she wants to change.
That’s you, that’s what you said.

>>3004299
>let's do the ones she didn't actually say
Yeah no, fuck off
>did the kiukiu request (blue)
>did the suki request (yellow)
>>3004556
nice samefag

>>3004474
And Aria was responsible for all of the SCs that Haachama read at the end, right?

>>3004708
>>did the kiukiu request (blue)
are you genuinely fucking retarded?
you're embarrassing yourself
here eops, google translate what it actually is and laugh at this retard
>モフモフ

>>2997308
It might be right because King arc happened a while ago.

>>3004570
That wasn't me.
Yeah, it's stupid. Whatever. That "b-but old Haatons are beetteeeer..." argument is silly and boring.

>>2997600
The chat is scripted

>>3004870
>b-but old Haatons are beetteeeer
honestly i would be surprised to see any old haaton here. would be fun to check older post and see how many of the comments still have a members badge, just not 5$ worth of fun

>>3004708
>kiukiu
Kek

>>3004870
I responded to the person that said that, I was explaining I am not an “anti”. The only complaint I have seen people have about Haachama is, the Schizo Arc is getting stale and she doesn’t stream anything besides that. The Schizo Arc started about 6 months ago so anyone who liked her before that should hypothetically be satisfied with Aria’s content. If that is the direction Haachama chooses to go in.

>Haachama acquired a Transmogrifier

>>3005001
It’s this

>>3005067
we know fren

>>3005067
Mofumofu.

When we finally come to our senses in a few months, it's gonna be really funny how people ACTUALLY thought Haachama and Aria were the same person.

>>3004993
I only meant people that didn't just discover her in the last 6 months. They seem to be very “attached” and can’t comprehend how anyone else could think differently. To them anyone that doesn’t like the Schizo Arc is an Anti.

>>3005160
Read the thread dummy

>>3005213
yeah one of the problem is that newfags(even back on jp) overused the word anti for anyone who didnt like a chuuba or gen so the word lost its meaning around here

>>3004993
I've been following her since the Gen4 debuts. Schizo Arc was enjoyable up until it was obvious she wrote herself into a hole. It feels like she wants to stop doing it now but thinks she's obligated to keep up the bit to please newer fans.

Graduation might look like her only hope...

>>3005463
She can definitely stop whenever she pleases without much in the way of repercussions. I'm sure she's thought it through, give her a little more credit than that, anon.

>>3004993
Ex old Haaton here, honestly had she stopped the schizo arc a month in, I'd been fine with it, but I just kinda stopped caring about her content when she kept it after the break and with the latest break nu Haatons became so insufferable that I just haven't bothered to see anything more from her anymore, haven't unsubbed yet but only because that would mean going to her channel

>>3006036
The nu Haaton thing is a bullshit reason, but if she's not producing the type of content you wanna watch anymore so be it. Things change, shit happens.

>>3006036
thats depressing to read but understandable, hope you find a chuuba that hit that same spot for you that old chama did

>>2998091
Miko stated at the start of her Nier Replicant playthrough that she only found out about the existence of the rewind feature when she was late for Coco's outfit stream and has had it enabled on every stream since

>>2997308

>>2997286
haato and haachama are two different people dumb dumb
only normie fag retard cia niggers think it's multiple personality syndrome you dumb fucking cia nigger piece of shit
they're fucking doubling their income you piece of fucking shit nigger
hey nigger cia piece of shit this is how a streamer doubles their income dumb dumb

>>2997308
She never answered to any SC. Make of it whatever you want but i believe this rat.

Why would they choose to stream at the exact same time? Seems pretty suspicious.

>>3003425
What if BOTH streams were prerecorded

>>3003739
So she seamlessly shifted from a prerecorded stream to a live one without anyone noticing?

>>3007503
this

>>3011153

New rrat: Aria is Haachama's sister. Haachama helped her out by letting her use their good PC and recorded the initial videos to give her a kick start.

Actually true rrat: Aria is very cute and you should watch her and support her and not harass her about imaginary connections to a hololive member which only serve to demean her as a self-sufficient content creator

>>3011957
She would have been able to add messages to live chat if needed. There was speculation that Aria was responding to live chat. Some live chat was even praising her singing.

>>2997286
Haachama could also use Ame's time travel to stream at the same time, since she's friends with her.

>>3011957
This was the exchange:
>>3002871
and the response given:
>>3003437

>>3011957
30 minutes in to Singchama is when Aria started her ASMR stream.
This is what happened at that exact moment:
>https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

>>3013199
Haato is kinda stupid and even had a mcdonalds commercial accidentally in her last stream you think she could hide this

>>3013231
She's stupid but surprisingly good at avoiding yabs when it counts. Case in point look at how many cooking streams she's done with a live camera feed (something almost no other holos dare to do anymore) and yet manages to never reveal anything she shouldn't even around a bunch of reflective as fuck cookware

>>3013231
That was discusses as well:
>>3003121
That’s not nearly as bad as a Starbucks cup in the last season of Game of Thrones, so I would be too harsh on her for that.

>>3013231
bruh that wasn't an accident, that was sponsored content by mcdonalds.
you're just not seeing the big picture, she's a master of strategy.

>>3013231
>Fixed 2 glaring typos, disregard first posting:
That was discussed as well:
>>3003121 (You) #
That’s not nearly as bad as a Starbucks cup in the last season of Game of Thrones, so I wouldn’t be too harsh on her for that.

>>3013455
In all seriousness if you never underestimate people you will never be surprised. Assume everyone is smarter than you and let them prove you wrong.

>>3003437
>>3002871
I mean she probably just assumed they were talking about her singing stream earlier.

Also her English doesn't sound as fluent as Haachama and is Haachama honestly that good of an actor that she can pretend, as someone with kind of shitty English abilities (though better than most holos) to be someone with a bit shittier English abilities? That seems hard.

>>3013520
Haachama has a very unique style of English that would be pretty recognizable. If she is aware of this she would probably try to overcompensate to hide it.
Compare:
>Aria Promo:
https://youtu.be/xOo9qzL78GE
To:
>Aria Debut:
https://youtu.be/XwBwsYgxB1k
Both are incredibly cute, but almost too different from each other.
This is the third video she released:
https://youtu.be/lGqJNkbK6YU

>>3012972
Aria is the 3rd timeline Haachama the got launched into our timeline, now Haachama and Ariachama both entertain masses in the same timeline not knowing the other -chama even exist

>>3013512
I assume anyone who believes this rrat is a fucking retard.

>>3014038
Or young Akai Haato after having her memories stolen in Revival and sent back in time.

>>3014119
Well don’t worry no one will ever underestimate you little guy.

>>2998178
What's with "Hi Honey" lately?

>>3014171
Take your meds, you retard.

>>3014038
If this were true it would be the schizoid byproduct of lurking here.
Ogey Arc:
Twin Peaks built on a pile of seething rrats.
Schizo Arc:
Building a story using memes from l*bbit and Twitter.

>>3014280
Go back faggot.

>>3014428
They're not the same person, you had fun with this bullshit for a while. It's time to stop.

>>3015123
>this is nonsense!
>you need to stop!
>I am serious, you better not keep believing this!
>why aren’t you listening to me?!?
What are you hoping to accomplish? You are the authority on nothing. Who cares what anyone thinks, especially you. Why does it bother you? You came charging in yelling stop, just think about what you are doing with your life.

>>3015123
Sure thing, Haachama.

>>3015630
That was so much better than what I said. Now I look like a tryhard. Based

>>2997765
https://youtu.be/oSvQDE9rmTg?t=215

>>3015412
Kill yourself faggot.

>>3015695
No, you look like a retarded schizo. And you are one. Cringe.

I feel bad for Aria with all the schizos calling her Haachamma in her comments

The schizos in this thread is wild lol don't forget your meds

>>3016087
>>3016062
You still here samefag?
You need to go back.

>>3016417
You need to kill yourself.

>>3016518
Its funny how much this matter to you. Really struck a nerve.

>>3015123
So I should stop saying this?

1. Haachama and Aria streamed at roughly the same times. (At least 45 mins concurrently)
2. Haachama interacted with the Live Chat
3. Aria did not interact with the Live Chat
4. Haachama mentioned that she had 2 computers and was streaming on her laptop in 720p.
5. Aria was streaming in 1080p

Additional Information
2. The classical music that Haachama uses is “Aria on the G Strings” by Johann Sebastian Bach
> https://youtu.be/VkjW2oNb5TI
3. The exact moment Aria’s stream started
> https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

Analysis of “Revival” stream
> https://youtu.be/vsqCbRLvbOY

This happens 30 minutes in to Singchama right when Aria started her stream:
>https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

Voice Comparison:
>Aria’s Promo
https://youtu.be/xOo9qzL78GE
>Haa-Aria ASMR
https://youtu.be/lGqJNkbK6YU
>Aria/Haachama Duet
https://files.catbox.moe/57gy4g.mp4

>>3017229
do you actually think the song haachama used having 'aria' in the title is indicative of something?

>>3017327
It could be why she chose the name Aria, since she has used that song so often in the past.

>>3017229
Yes you should stop spamming this retarded shit and commit suicide instead.

>>3017575
jesus christ get some help

>>3016703
Yeah, you seem pretty upset that no one is falling for you bullshit.

>>3014119
If you have to rely on someone and you assume they are smarter than you then you are usually in for a bad day.

>>3017592
Your counter point is what exactly?
>Dont.
Why don’t you present some evidence to the contrary instead crying like a little bitch all the time.

>>3017229
Yeah Hachamma singing and talking right when Aria's stream starts really proves she's 2 people

>>3017667
You're a schizo retard. Present evidence that you're not.

>>3017667
>evidence
Schizo rambling is not evidence. You honestly need to see a psychiatrist if you believe this.

>>3017773
Or she was starting the prerecorded stream because:
>Haachama is not dumb at all, she is very skilled with using video editing software. Every Hololive member has at least one skill that they are exceptional at, it is a prerequisite on the current application.
>>Music, Art, or Video Production.
>Using HoloEN as an example:
>>Mori - Music/Art
>>Kiara - Music/Art
>>Ina - Art
>>Gura - Music/Video Production
>>Ame - Video Production
>Video Production includes Streaming experience.
>Haachama started streaming at 16 and even though she is self taught in using Video Editing software, she has 3 years of relevant work experience from being a streamer

>>3017894
Or they're 2 different people, and you are completely deranged. This is a million times more likely.

>>3017894
here's an important question: to what benefit does she do this?
she cant just make asmr videos as haachama?

>>3017919
Why do you care what one person thinks? You seem insanely desperate to prove its not true, but you can’t. You also think one person isn’t allowed to say what they think, just because you say so? If you didn’t come here to say something this would just be ignored, instead you are making a big deal out of it.

>>3017932
Who knows I have no way of knowing that, I just know that if I wanted to deceive someone this is how I could do it.

>>3018108
people with careers to lose dont risk it all trying to deceive four people on a website no one cares about

>>3018108
One stream Live
One prerecorded
Overlay the live chat on the prerecorded stream
Use my phone to send live messages if I planned it out ahead
Seems extreme but if I needed to do this it’s within the realm of possibility.
I have no idea why, that would just be a guess
I am only explaining how you could pull this off with the 2 computers she admitted to using and the skill set she has.
No one freaks out when you try to figure out a magic trick. I have no emotional investment in this at all.

>>3018351
okay, are we talking "could this be possible" or "did this happen" because i think one of those claims is a lot more defensible than the other

>>3018385
The one thing that makes it seem plausible is that odd pause she takes right as Aria’s stream starts.
https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

>>3018460
Holy shit take your fucking meds, you lunatic. Your stupid narrative was disproven. They're not the same person. Nothing was prerecorded. YOU WERE WRONG.

>>3018351
>I have no emotional investment in this at all.
Is that why you've been spamming multiple threads for weeks with your delusions?

>>3018460
i think its incredibly more plausible that she, like any vtuber has done a million fucking times, moved out of range of whatever is recognizing her movements, and it defaulted to a different state
why are you choosing to believe such an unlikely reason over the hundreds of reasons she might've moved differently at that moment?

>>3018572
Someone freaked out and said I had to stop so I refused, fuck them. This is how I phrased it from the beginning. If you draw meaning from it that’s on you.

“After watching today’s streams there are a few things I can say with absolute certainty. I won’t speculate to their meaning.

1. Haachama and Aria streamed at roughly the same times. (At least 45 mins concurrently)
2. Haachama interacted with the Live Chat
3. Aria did not interact with the Live Chat
4. Haachama mentioned that she had 2 computers and was streaming on her laptop in 720p.
5. Aria was streaming in 1080p

Additional Information
1. The classical music that Haachama uses is “Aria on the G Strings” by Johann Sebastian Bach
> https://youtu.be/VkjW2oNb5TI
2. The exact moment Aria’s stream started
> https://youtu.be/AXBMxI0fhdc&t=1616

Voice Comparison:
>Aria’s Promo
https://youtu.be/xOo9qzL78GE [Open]
>Haa-Aria ASMR
https://youtu.be/lGqJNkbK6YU [Open]
>Aria/Haachama Duet
https://files.catbox.moe/57gy4g.mp4”

There is no opinion or guessing it’s neutral observation.

>>3018716
>There is no opinion or guessing it’s neutral observation.
No, you're insane. There is zero reason to think they're same person/

They are obviously interleaving prerecorded and live shows together so they can inject live commentaries before going back into prerecorded performance
this is common stuff

lmao

>>3018773
It is something Haachama has done repeatedly during her Void streams.

>>3018716
All of these things youre pointing out, even taking them all to be true at face value, dont lead anywhere close to the conclusion that theyre the same person, and you pretending like thats not what youre implying by saying "well im not saying anything for sure, these are just the facts" is ridiculous
The aria thing is a joke, are you even sure that between possible buffering, delay, and other factors that you even had the streams perfectly synced? The videos dont do any comparison at all, and if youd listen to haachama doing asmr youll realize they sound VERY different, the only time they sound even vaguely similar is when theyre singing the same song and newsflash: sometimes people sound like other people, especially when theyre both performing the same thing

>>3018922
But why would she make a second channel, risking her haachama identity and audience, to do something she can already do?

>>3019277
I won’t try to tell you are wrong either, it’s your opinion and you are entitled to it.

>>3019371
That would be a rrat and if make that guess I lose the ability to remain neutral.

>>3019371
I can tell you that there was a long thread discussing it, before her first tweet since the sayonara one.

>>2997286
HAATON BROS IT'S OVER ;_;
they're laughing at us again

kinda crazy anons are still in denial, it's just HERposting all over again, I think anyone spamming against it is just being ironic.

I'd like to know what the jap schizos on 2ch/5ch have to say about this.
>but i will never be able to learn japanese.

>>2997286
Now I wonder how much viewers will Aria lose now that is clear she is not Haachama.

>>3019663
They aren't saying shit as they can actually understand Japanese which allows them to be able to properly distinguish between Japanese voices.

>>3019610
Except they actually don't sound the same, dipshit.

>>3019391
>>3019418
"well thats just like your opinion man" is not a good defense for your conclusion being literally riddled with holes
you pretending like you're not implying theyre the same person by saying "well im not saying anything for sure, these are just the facts" is ridiculous
im not sure if you realize youre doing it so ill spell it out for you:
when you see a new vtuber sing a song, and think "wow that sounds a lot like haachama, i wonder if that actually is her" and then finding evidence like stream times, and subtle movements, and then making conclusions, is not actually you finding evidence and making new conclusions, you started with your conclusion first "what if this new vtuber is actually haachama?" and then scoured to find any inkling of a scrap of something that might help prove your case, that you unironically think that the song having 'aria' in the title is indicative of literally anything makes that pretty clear
actually use your brain for like two seconds instead of starting with your conclusion and working backwards
-isnt it way more reasonable that these are just two different people
-why would haachama risk her poisition in hololive to continue doing content she was already able to do there
-why would she stupidly put two streams simultaneously, thus massively magnifying the difficulty of maintaining two different personas
-why do they fucking sound different when they talk?

>>2997286
rratbros. why do we keep losing?

>>3019804
Believing that unrelated details are proof of their delusions is literally, unironically a symptom of schizophrenia.

>>3019277
As far as buffering and delays I was watching Haachama on my TV and laptop at the same time. I have my laptop connected to a smaller TV with DVI cables and have live translations on that screen. I was in waiting area for Aria’s stream on my phone and watched them both at the same time. I was specifically looking for proof that they were two people because of that thread I mentioned earlier. I was very surprised when Haachama made that odd noise right as the other stream went live. I wanted to find definitive proof of either outcome, definitely one or definitely two. Originally they were scheduled to start one hour apart, but Aria’s stream was moved up by a half hour. When Haachama mentioned using her laptop but having a better computer I became more suspicious. It should have been easy to prove they were two separate people. All they had to do was stream at the same time and interact with the chat.

>>3019705
Personally I think Aria's and Haachama's voices do not sound the same going by the timbre they both speak. Aria sounds higher pitched, which is whatI garnered from listening to the side-by-side video. Still, it'd be fun if the rrat turns out to be real. /vt/ would become a certified asylum.

>>3020030
And Im fucking retarded and forgot pitch-shifting has been a thing for decades.

>>3019905
im noticing similar mindsets in the general population, i dont think these kinds of rrats are (always) symptomatic of schizophrenia
or at least i have to hope so or im going to lose it
>>3019930
>I was specifically looking for proof
>I was very surprised when Haachama made that odd noise right as the other stream went live
>I wanted to find definitive proof of either outcome
>I became more suspicious
people make noises sometimes
people use their laptop instead of their main pc sometimes

you're not understanding that there's a lot of baggage involved in assuming them being the same person, its not just a few events that might point to a particular conclusion and then you dont have to think anymore

-isnt it way more reasonable that these are just two different people
-why would haachama risk her poisition in hololive to continue doing content she was already able to do there
-why would she stupidly put two streams simultaneously, thus massively magnifying the difficulty of maintaining two different personas
-why do they fucking sound different when they talk?

please try approaching this from somewhere other than "they are probably the same person, here is some evidence that hints that that is the case"
>>3020030
they dont just sound differently pitched, they have different speech patterns

I just wanted to know for certain, and to be able to prove it. I wouldn’t have paid such close attention if I didn’t think it was possible. I am shocked that I still don’t know one way or the other and that is unheard of. There should have been a definitive answer, the outcome is irrelevant.

>>3020269
just because "almost certain" isnt quite "definitive" doesnt make it reasonable that "almost certainly not" is "plausible"

>>3020269
The japs are schizo/autistic on another level, we'd have heard them shit the bed if this was the case. Surely?

>>3019705
they sound so different man, this guy is really wild kinda feel bad for him

>>3020204
You can’t ask why, without proof of what. There is no motive unless there is something for there to be a motive for.
>Who (we are still here)
>What
>When
>Where
>Why (motive)
>How

I didn't know this season of Ancient Aliens was about Haachama!

>>3020566
i can because one of the assumptions (they are the same person) has already made claims about the 'why'
if they are the same person then the following must necessarily be true:
-it is not more reasonable to assume they are two different people
-there is some reason haachama thinks is worth losing her position in hololive
-she intentionally overlapped two streams, making it harder for herself
-there is some mechanism by which she is making herself sound different

i have no idea where you pulled that list from (probably your ass) but you still have failed to acknowledge that the assumption that they are the same person comes with it inseparable assumptions about what, why, and how it was done.

these assumptions are unreasonable, and it is unreasonable to think its plausible they are the same person.

>>3018716
it's "Air on a G string"

>>3020738
>Aria"sulla quarta corda" or “Air on the G -string" as it morecommonly referred is one of J.S. Bach’s most recognizable melodies

>>3020847
you are not seriously still defending the fucking aria thing
please for the love of god
aria is a type of music, as a word it sounds kinda nice, and its conveniently completely within the bounds of japanese phonetics
i dare you to do a google search for 'aria girl' and count how many different people you see

>>3020696
This is the point to me.If this was true, and Aria and Haato are the same girl, why make it harder for herself by:
>Streaming at the same time
>Mentioning the pc thing on purpose
Then, why would she want to leave cover itself? Or her character? She can create the content she wants here, and the "she wants to drop the skizo act but she can't because muh fans" thing is stupid because most of us - at least, the not braindead ones - will follow her no matter what she creates. And she knows it, by all the messages of support she got everytime she had to take a pause. If the haachama thing weighs on her this much she'd just have dropped it. Therefore I see no reason to start streaming as another vtuber under a different agency while still being in hololive.
To not mention the list of question this brings, from how would she able to pull this off to why would cover allow one of her talents to stream in another agency WHILE still streaming with them. Which makes little to no sense at all.

tl dr, take your meds. This is really something not believable on a logical standpoint, too many holes, not enough reasons, and counter intuitive actions from haato herself.

>>3020892
It’s called “Aria in G”

>>3020914
>i dare you to do a google search for 'aria girl' and count how many different people you see

>>3020928
I am aware it is name. The song that Haachama often uses is an aria that’s all.

>>3020982
why are you trying to correlate these two things when its about a zillion times more likely that she, like the 50 bajillion other people named aria, came up with the name entirely independently?

>>3020928
I am aware it is a name. The song that Haachama often uses is an aria that’s all.

>>3021029
>>3021014

>>3021014
My personal favorite aria is Der Holle Rache (Queen of the Night)
https://youtu.be/CodvdRTX8zo

You all need meds for real

>>3021014
It not common in Japan.
https://www.popular-babynames.com/name/aria

They are going to stream again with an hour of difference, this is on purpose now, she onto us i know it

>>3021239
I welcome you to prove it, I don’t care about the outcome only an answer. I gotta get to sleep.

>>3021202
oh shit, you got me, the most reputable site for japanese naming conventions ever seen, surely this all-english site isnt biased in any way

do you think japanese people are commonly named 'haato' or 'rosenthal' or 'polka'?

>>3021381
should've stayed focused instead of wasting time on this worthless distraction.
it literally doesnt matter how common the name is in japan, which seems more likely:
-haachama specifically picked that name as a reference to some bgm or whatever she uses occasionally as a wink to the viewer who has a chance to find it under a different name, if they have the classical background to find it at all, and that she probably couldnt even name off the top of her head if you asked because its just some occasional bgm, not something highly related to her
or
-someone new to vtubing likes to sing and thought 'aria' sounded kinda cute

Both companies are in on this and both sides have their own tech crew manage their respective stream while Haachama/Aria juggles on both sides with ease during both streams. There's no other way unless both sides are trying to save face for Akai Haato transitioning to another company without becoming a PR nightmare for everyone involve. It was a deliberate ruse to fool fans.

>>3022157
except itd be significantly easier for everyone involved to just graduate her before aria debuted

>>2997286
All versions of Hachama exist at the same time in the continuum space.

>>3022157
Kill yourself

>STILL being in denial

Is she that chinese Aria?

>>3024504
No she's not
And it's Artia

>>2997308
I KNEEL

>>3014261
Suisei said "Hi Honey" in a recent duolingo english learning stream to progress in the program. Suisei saying this phrase sexually awakened the audience (myself included). So people began getting other chuubas to say the phrase and it spread.

>>3014261
reddit

>>2997765
pre-recorded comment.

>>3003121
Also
>Kiara - Trilingual
>Ina - Trilingual

>>2997308
the evidence is simply undeniable

>>3018546
why are you so angry and frustrated about this obvious shitposting anon
seems like you're the one who needs to take meds

>>3019747
they kinda do, no need to lie about that.
more similar than ui and watame, but yes i agrre the differences become clearer on a better sound system.
doesn't mean they don't sound eerily similar, even if they are different people.
take your ear medicine anon

>>2997286
the schizos here will literally say that the asmr is pre-recorded.
give up OP. these guys are too retarded.

>>3029826
ASMR is usually pre-recorded and we have proof that Aria's was.

>>3030057
Chama doesn't pre-record her ASMR. It's not her style.

>>2998483
>>2998701
I'll even accept just something dumb or cute over a shitpost because it's not like it'll be that good I've been needing an excuse to learn gyoza anyway so I may as well burn some for a laugh