/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Anime feet girl doko.

>>29837290
Uncle Nowa thread ah ah ah ah ah

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1554301639615340544
Uproar summer outfits

4541098759087534205873425098374257342
nmbyrs

BASED NOWA OP

yeah, iLuna didn't do as well as expected

>>29837554
Uncle Nowa would want you to be nice to those less fortunate, anon. Please be kind in his thread.

>>29837554
sasuga leader...

>>29837290
Uncle Nowa thread?
Uncle Nowa thread!

>>29837290
Tell me.
Why does he collect these?

>>29837743
You know how warriors in the past collected cut off ears or teeth or whatever as proof of their kills?
Yeah this is the project zombiod version of that

>>29837554
people still play genshin nowadays?

>>29837801
judging from the numbers, evidently not

Selen Maria teetee chu chuing

>>29837834
The numbers mating convergence dance is always beautiful to behold

>>29836699
She has back cancer and is going through aggressive chemo to fix it, back problems is just a cover story to avoid doom and gloom on stream

no interesting news...

>>29837801
Genshin is still doing well but it's reaching that point in a gachas life where new content and oldfags are outweighing the old content. Literally no one wants to watch someone play through the first 3 hours of the dogshit story anymore

I pray that more EN3 will be recruited into Gura's camp and not Calli. Whoever goes to Calli's camp gets shit numbers.

>>29837554
niji incline!...

>>29838026
It's great that Gura decided to join Krofaumei since she drove everyone in Myth away.

>>29837554
>>29837433
OH NO NO NO NIJIKEKS DON'T LOOK

>>29836474
>>29836492
>>29836512
Anons you can't pretend to be a nijifag for laughs, some of them are ACTUALLY retarded enough to have that as a genuine opinion.

>>29838026
Mori camp are full of bad streamers in general. Aside from Irys though but she has her circumstance for joining that camp.

>>29838026
Fuck off
Calli is the true Queen of EN

>>29836474
>>29836492
>>29836512
Unfortunately there are actual nijiniggers who would actually say something like that as an actual cope

>>29837433
> I've worked here for more than TWICE the amount of time that these fuckers have, where's MY new outfit Riku?

>>29837969
The fuck is back cancer lol

>>29838266
should've been born with a penis Selen

>>29837834
Debut buff doko…

>>29838246
Yeah, since Gura isn't even streaming anymore Mori's views are going to be 50,000,000 ahead of Gura's pretty soon.

Why the girls want to be in NijiEN when they know they will get shit number , shit merch and no outfit ?

>>29837290
EN Gen 3 will be 5 witches theme.

>>29838295
Nijis don't have debut buffs anon

>>29838358
Beats working for a living
Unironically

>>29837834
I don't mind Maririn at all so far, i just wish all the leeches in her gen would stop coming to her streams since she's obviously the female standout (as much as one can be in nijien)

>>29838266
I won't pay to develop anything else, not even 3D tecnology.

>>29837969
She got into car accident sometime in August/September last year

>>29838358
Still less shit than being an indie I guess.

>>29838358
If you're a girl who hates "le idoru culture" where else are you supposed to go?

>>29838295
It's been a week, any debut buff potential there once was is out the window now.
From here on out all numbers we see is what everyone is working with.

>>29838411
>Maririn
Who the hell are you calling Maririn? Senchou isn't streaming right now

>>29838358
Atleast they can suck one of the boy's cock. It's a win if you're a whore while simps pays you.

>>29838411
What is her audience anyway? It's almost midnight on west coast and almost 3 am on east coast. Is she streaming for chinks/SEA?

>>29838358
Can’t get into Holo and it’s better than a small corpo

>>29838429
Vsupo

https://youtu.be/_FqLLddXZsE
> She actually said "womb"
kek

I've been away for a couple of weeks: what the fuck happened with Iluna?

>>29838411
>Maririn
kys

>>29838425
If that is the case it would just a simple one time fixed with PSIF if her spine was fractured and usually it won't cause pain for the rest of your life.

>>29838490
Shes Australian

>>29838411
>Maririn
Great, nijikeks trying to steal from Holo again.
Do you freaks not have a single original though in your heads?

>>29838429
Vshojo?
Oh wait, they're only poaching the popular and established Vtuber. lol

>>29838457
Watch streams
>>29838490
iirc she's yet another asian faux aussie so this is her usual stream time so yeah probably chink/SEA. I hope she does more stardew/SoS streams though because they were pretty lowkey and good to fall asleep to.

>>29838532
5/6 are obnoxious fucks and the only one who isn’t is just plain boring.

>>29837801
Yes, but there's nothing to do in the game due to the lack of an endgame content so the majority of players just logs in to run the dailies. The next patch is a new region release and anniversary next month, so the interest will be up in the future.

>>29837554
Wait, ren is already 3k? are you shitting me? You guys said he's luxiem 2.0
also fuck you nijimeido, got sent vacation

>>29838488

100%
Most of them audition holo first, when they don't pass, they will come to nijisanji. Such as Shu

>>29838358
still free money

>>29838595
>Watch niji
no

>>29838358
The thing is that's the exact thought process people had with StarsEN was first announced. I'm sure that the ones that auditioned into Tempus went in with the full mentality that they're going to debut into what's concidered a dead branch.
In a different universe, bizzaro world or whatever, I'm sure all of Iluna have struck gold and get 7-10k regularly every member, while every Tempus member only had 3view numbers.

>>29838582
Seriously though unless you're already established whaat would vshojo even provide? The vwhores will still collab with you if you get big anyway so might as well just stay as an indie

>>29838553
Psif is not a guaranteed 100% success rate anon

>>29838709
I don't think there's a timeline in which iluna strikes gold unless they just hire completely different people

See! Holo girls always talk about/insert Kronii in their conversation. Why do they like her so much?

>>29838709
You know how Yagoo almost always retweets Maglord fan art and out right said that Mag is his favourite Tempus?
They literally didn't expected that /mag/ would be this influential in hyping up the boys
I suspect Maglord initially had a different loading screen but he changed it at the last minute when he saw how fucking massive the MAG meme is

>>29838804
Yep, this is why you hire hungry 2 views.

>>29838532
Nijisanji's scouting department just amounts to going through the list of applicants, looking at who has the highest subs, then signing them all on

>>29838358
It's called a backup option, anon.

>Twitter now show you how much someone Tweet
Huh, has this always been a thing?

>>29838281
>should've been born a holo
fixed that for you

>>29837743
To cope with the stress of surviving in a zomby apocalipse.

God damn at least try to beat Irys' SC reading time

Bae was asking for constructive feedback with regards to how she's doing in her members stream, and I'm trying to write a good comment that would help her. What do you guys have in mind?

Non-schizo posts only.

>>29838524
Can't stop, won't stop

>>29838712
Anecdotally all of the cases I've see are all successful (based on the follow ups), and I've seen quite a number.

>>29839037
Stream better games

>>29839037
More zatsu

>>29839037
no male interaction and mention
idol reps

>>29838889
I wonder how the numbers would look in an alternate universe where they didn't mag. Basically nobody was talking about them before it happened outside of the usual beggars.

>>29839037
unironically find better stream games, find a good timeslot that you can consistently, and I do mean CONSISTENTLY stream in, and just let it work

>>29838411
>Maririn
pathetic dog

>>29838846
She puts out on discord and has low self esteem so she'll cater to whatever fetishes the girls have

>>29839037
Stop being Australian

>>29839037
I don't really see bae but it can depends on how parasocial is she willing to go, or how much GFE she wants to go.
Also don't let her post private discord messages.

>>29839037
less zatsu stream, more collab with JP senpai stream ( be it stars or holo ) also if you're bad at vidya just do karaoke, I love her karaoke stream
godspeed brats

>>29839037
Better games or unironically just spam minecraft zatsus

>>29839037
Don't overlap streams, try to have a consistent stream schedule that is accessible to your core EN audience, stream a game which you know you will be invested in

>>29839037
Overlap less
Try to start a Minecraft storyline, or join Rust
Do karaoke at least once every two weeks
Try doing a 3d dance stream using a vr headset
Stop talking to and about duderinos so much (don't write this one, she won't listen to it)

>>29839037
rotate between minecraft, karaoke, horror games and record more song covers
also stick to a timeslot like Fauna did

>>29838429
ask ollie

>>29839037
mating press, but honestly just ask her to find her own time slot, the one that makes people felt like yep it's this time already time to watch bae and find her own niche

>>29838709
and now starsEN is mogging iLuna six ways from sunday, how the turntables

>>29839037
Bae worries about number? Or she just wants feed back to connect with fan?

>>29838691
Why they don't be like Nene ? Give up too soon lmao

>>29838640
Solo superchat reading streams are a debuff.
Always have been.

>>29839037
1. Play more streamable games, debuffs are fine as one-offs but if you don't balance it with buff games your numbers will go down.
2. Try not to peak your mic all the time, loud isn't always = funny.
3. Pick a timeslot and stream there CONSISTENTLY for a month, auto numbers incline.
4. More JP collabs.
5. Occasional KR streams during KR time. KR learning collabs with members like Ina and Kronii would be free numbers.
6. More Baerys I guess, since that will revitalize fanarts.

>>29839037
Do more audience interaction streams since she's good at those, find a time frame she can consistently stream in instead of jumping all over the place, find some games she likes that she can do relaxed streams with the intention of getting better at gaming, do more singing streams, collab with jp more.

>>29839298
She was sad because the only real way for her to measure how she's doing is her numbers. She's been in a funk the past few months and suffering from imposter syndrome.

Personally, knowing she's dealt with sickness, injury, college, and adopting a stray cat, I think she should be more forgiving of herself, but I can see why she's down.

>>29838358
They're not getting into Hololive when they only accept 5 people a year at best.
And as much as people like to shit on NijiEN they still easily beat Prism or Tsunderia or whatever other irrelevant EN corpos there are.

>>29839037
Graduate and join Vshojo

>>29839037
drop that retarded loud voice

>>29839037
>Consistent schedule at a good timeslot
>Touch buff games
>Collabs
>Limit zatsus or at least hide them behind a game like Minecraft
Honestly dropping the voice is the biggest thing to me but hey can’t force her to do it

>>29838937
I don't know if 'tweets per month' is new, but the total number of tweets has always been there yes.

>>29839037
I think there's a problem with the personality she projects in solo streams
She's much better in collabs

>>29838640
He put SC in the title. He's lucky he got 3k with all the overlap.

None of the big Niji/Holo will stream today, right?
I want Patra gold

>>29839453
This, same applies to Kiara but with her screeching voice

>>29839224
>or join Rust
As one of the members fluent in Japanese she probably should've done this a while ago.

>>29839037
just stop mentioning the homos every stream holy shit
>b-but anon she had already collabed with Roberu before starsEN debuted!
yeah but she didn’t mention him every fucking stream

>>29839254
>horror games
Horror game are the ultimate Bae buff content because her reactions are so sincere and spectacular, but she had an actual medical emergency during Outlast so I don't know if she could ever do this

CHINA

>>29839037
literally just stick to a damn time slot and play more fotm shit, you're supposed to balance out the debuff shit that solidifies your core audience but scares tourists away with shit that keeps the flow of new people coming in
also less zatsus

>>29839037
1. Collab with the JPs, especially Pekora.
2. Learn to control her voice and mic for a better user experience. I am ok with zoomer screams but make it more tolerable.
3. Stream something she is very good at and see how it goes.
4. Choose a slot and stick to it for a year. Stream at least 6 times per week on that slot.

poll

>>29838443
What about Tempus?

>>29839404
>imposter syndrome
Unless i forgot sth but worrying about numbers doesn't feel like imposter syndrome to me unless she feels undeserved.
Or maybe she's talking about feedbacks from fans? Comment section turns into a yesman echo chamber, that I can imagine.

>>29839612
Get a screenshot of 3-4 minutes in, that's not too spectacular so far

It's always funny how most holo fans don't even know about Niji

>>29839037
Please carefully decide how loud you're going to be. I don't mind you being a full blown screamo vtuber but it's honestly jarring that you'll talk softly, suddenly SCREAM and then return to a low voice.

>>29838709
At least for Axel and Nowa, even the worst Holostar JP numbers would've been a massive upgrade to their old numbers.

>>29839515
Kiara has much better lingo though, no "bruhh ,dude , base" all that zoomer shit.

>>29839507
There'll probably be a koshien stream and even if there's not, Pekora will be stream(sponsored stream so it might not be a big one). What's your prediction for Patra numbers?

>>29839037
I mean, after going through her past stream lists, games she's played, and how she's played them, I think Bae overalls is already an amazing streamer in her own right.
She's comparing herself with Fauna, Kronii and Mumei mostly which as much as people will sheit on them and call them a failure Gen, they're still bringing big numbers regularly, it's just Bae getting the smaller piece of the pie when being put next to those giants.

She should try to focus on her own strengths that she rarely uses, she's an amazing singer but she barely streams Karaoke, her Original Song is the one that has the most views out of everyone in council and by far, she's an amazing VA but only used her skills in Valhalla.

Tldr: Stream more regularly, sing more regularly, and plan for her future projects more accordingly, find what her own strengths are and use them more creatively, rather than trying to copy what other Holomembers are doing.

>>29839528
I know, that’s why I mentioned horror games
and yeah I remember that outlast stream, but honestly it’s very unlikely that it was a medical emergency, probably just tachycardia

>>29839623
I wholeheartedly believe Tempus has found a niche for themselves with little overlap with the girls, the only problem will be if one of them accidentally overlaps with the other because they share most of their viewers with magni being one of the outliers that can get 3k while overlapped with Altare's 2k

>>29839037
1. Consistent timeslots, one for NA and one for JP/AUS. Like, stop jumping around from 3pm pst to 6pm pst to 8pm pst all the time (Recommended : Take over Rushia's slot, not many JP will stream at that slot during the weekdays)
2. Voice, upper bounds can be screechy and it hurts the ears
3. Figure out how not to overlap the shit outta each other, especially avoiding overlap with IRyS/Mori/rest of council if possible, since she gets especially rekt in overlaps, or at least space things out so they're not starting right on top of each other
4. Figure out something out that makes her stand out compared to the rest of HoloEN. What that is, is up to her

that's the last I got

>>29839692
Considering she's an ESL from Euro, I don't even think there was a chance for her to even pick up those zoomer lingos

>>29839037
Weaknesses right now:
>Doesn't stream in a consistent timeslot, always jumping around all the time
>Will ALWAYS overlap strong EN girls like Gura or some big collab
>Refuses to spam buff content and instead would rather play obscure VNs until she finishes them
>Jumps on FOTM trends too late after the hype is dead, look at Holocure and Stray
>breaks after a streaming spree which kill off interested viewers.
>Most collabs are not on her channel but on other people's
>JP week, nuff said, probably the worst idea ever done by an EN, wouldn't pander to her KR fanbase who y'know ACTUALLY watch her and are a sizable portion of her fanbase.

What she needs to do:
>Avoid the above mentioned weaknesses
>Do more creative/gimmick style streams like Febaery or her recent PNG stream, those are super fun
>Focus on buff videogames, especially minecraft
>Tell her to focus on the ZATSU aspect/audience interaction while playing simple games so she can build up multitasking skills
>Disguise her normal zatsu streams as minecraft streams

Most importantly, go the Fauna route and start streaming in a consistent timeslot while trying to avoid overlaps whenever she can, do this for a couple of months until she can build up a loyal floor of audience and then she should even think about streaming in primetime NA while overlapping the big hitters.

>>29839756
I have the stream in the background and chat closed.
Not bothering for a poll.

>>29839623
Tempus isn't really working with that much debut buff anymore.
Their issue is moreso how most of their streams so far are from them raiding each other and while the retention is good, it doesn't give a picture of how they'll do if they overlap each other.
IMO, debut buff lasts for 2 weeks, but by the 2nd week you have a general idea of where everyone is going to end up already.

>>29839756
Seems pretty normal (for Hololive).

>>29839813
(me) I also forgot to mention, do more karaokes whenever she can

>>29839037
>Play with Irys, Calli
Shit number
>Play with Gura
Fauna,Mumei ,Kroni tier
You choose your side in the begining , no one can help you now

Will Maria surpass IRyS SC reading before she finishes?

>>29839813
I just realize Pekora do literally every of these thing

>>29838937
Where do you see that?

>>29839884
It is literally under the Tweets tab.

>>29839876
This meme is cruel to both Gura and whatever talent
Gura doesn't really control who she gels with and would probably collab with anybody who can work up the balls to ask her

>>29839935
Yea. It's not a matter of 'choosing', bae is just too zoomer for Gura, who's humor and tastes don't quite line up with Bae from the few times I've seen them interact.

>>29839935
She tried though. I remember in one of those collabs, gura and mumei were making some meme references and it went completely over bae's head.

>>29839876
>Calli
Back to your shithole discord tourist

Moona off to save Mumei

>>29839821
For fuck's sake, IT HAS ONLY BEEN A WEEK SINCE THEIR DEBUT

>>29839935
Holy fuck. Go back.

>>29839813
Pretty much sums it up perfectly
You have to remember that Fauna was a 5k streamer until she found her own timeslot and stuck to it, people underestimate the power of timeslots and consistent streaming.
I'd like to add that she needs to make her streams a bit longer, her stream amount is decent but hours streamed are pretty low because she usually does short 1 hour streams

>>29840052
I wish for an ID-EN Minecraft arc

>>29840069
I guarantee I've been here longer than you, bitch. Post why I'm wrong or shut the fuck up.

>>29839990
Yeah, out of all HoloEN, Bae has the least chemistry with her, even below Sana which is fucking hard cuz girl vibe well on stream with pretty much anyone. (Irys hasn't got any chance to collab with Gura much but i think she would do 100 times better)

>>29839925
Nothing on my end, only see the total tweets at the top of the page

>>29840097
Spoken like a true newfag

>>29839876
>play with SNOT
Did you miss that one Minecraft session where Bae couldn't relate with any of them and then she went silent for 15 minutes before stopping the stream?

>>29840052
it will develop to a guerrilla stream isn't it?

>>29840069
nijiseethe

>>29840097
new to VT, because people get autistic about referring to Mori Calliope as Mori vs Calli.

>>29840167
>VT

>>29839037
>>29840090
Do you think Moona can save Bae by having minecraft EN server autism arc? I wish we had more ID EN minecraft interactions

>>29840122
How quaint. Are you logged in, and if you are have you cleared cookies recently?

My fucking God, I hate this board. Full of newfags that don't lurk.

>>29840160
yea think she's going to stream in like 2 hours.
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1554341331442741248

>>29840121
Irys and Gura are always cute when they call each other in totsus. I'm sure they'll do fine but honestly most collab games suck ass so minecraft guerilla collabs are usually the best.

>>29840212
So fuck off then, you sensitive whiner

>>29840186
Moona would ignore the fuck out of Bae screaming >bruh every 15 seconds.

>>29839935
It is kind of true to some extend. After you established yourself in Hololive you will slowly find yourself gravitate toward one of the big senpai

>>29840052
Mumei: Mog that Rissotto guy and his 3k stream

>>29840236
And letting you niggers take control of this place? No.

>>29840139
Remember that Council Human Fall Flat Collab ?

>>29840186
Condition to be saved by Moona include
>Being an actual Minecraft enthusiast

If you were Omega how would you make another Gura

>>29839876
Bae and IRyS streams get good numbers though.

>>29840306
A fucking classic
Bae just sitting off alone depressed for like 15 minutes

>>29840183
Yes yes I know it stretches back further than that, but at minimum, since y'know that's where we are, /vt/.

>>29840121
The minecraft hunt, BD totsu are great examples that Irys and Gura can have good chemistry

>>29840323
Hire another cunny with a matching voice I suppose. Preferably stable mentally.
There will be a flood of twitter pearl clutchers, which will give attention to EN3 and incline them to the moon.

>>29840160
At 6 jst, she said in the following tweet.

>>29839037
Sell IRyS stock invest In Mumei shipping
Also join SNOT

>>29840407
go Flare's sister go

>>29840407
Go Lain

>>29840186
I don't think Bae even needs to be saved by Moona, she literally hasn't done anything impactful on the minecraft server despite streaming it quite often recently.
Like apart from a farm that doesn't really work, I can't name anything she's done.
At least Sana has a sick tower now and Irys hasn't streamed minecraft in many months.

It's really not that hard to look up a design for a cool house and copy it to get something going. She can even ask for fan designs of what her house could look like because I'm sure there are some minecraft autists in her fanbase.

Thanks everyone for the comments. I've tried to summarize some of the most important things you guys brought up. I don't mind being doxxed since it's a throwaway account, so here's the comment for you guys to give your thoughts before I send it.

>>29840409
Gotta find one that doesn't have that disgusting fake nasal head voice tone they all have. Gura is a very rare breed.

Why does the EN audience not watch JRPGS?

>>29840568
They're insanely boring. But also, if you miss even 30 minutes of the first stream, might as well skip the rest because you'll have no fucking idea what's going on.

>>29840446
Nah she literally can't join SNOT, she just can't keep up with their convo and jokes. I'd have a more flexible schedule (able to delay 1-2h) and stay the hell out of SNOT overlap.

>>29840471
Looks like you did a good job filtering out the schizo out of all those replies.
I don't think the last part is necessary honestly because Bae still streams quite a bit. That's more like criticism for someone like Kronii lmao.

>>29840471
Seems polite and genuine, godspeed to you Anon.

>>29840568
>JAPANESE Role Playing Game
They make it clear it's for Japanese from the get go

>>29840471
Based anon. Godspeed

>>29840471
Good anon

>>29840471
Not terrible, could be much worse.

>>29840471
I guess that takes care of the most important stuff, good luck. Hope she can take it well.

Bae doomed herself with that bayonetta and rat simulator streamer for debut week, and it'll be hard enough for her to find her own niche, unless she goes to the simple gfe route that needs no hard gameplay or weekly gimmicks.

>>29840336
Couldn't get along with genmates ..... after that she begining go out with Irys,Mori and debuff herself

>>29840592
>They're insanely boring
>Meanwhile Elden Ring #50
Lol. Lmao even.

>>29840644
>unless she goes to the simple gfe route
I don't think that is possible for her

>>29840471
Solid enough summation given the schizo stuff that was also present.

>>29838411
Could have called her Marimari, 2Mari, but they all decided on an already used nickname for a much more successful chuba. Impressive.

Jesus, people in here encourage containment breaking now?

>>29840668
Elden Ring is somewhat boring too, but it's easier to pick up than stream #6 of a complex JRPG. Elden ring is just fucking around on a giant open world doing bite-sized dungeons

>>29840471
Add some more examples with rat reviews such as PNG stream, heart rate stream, wife dub and whatnot
Tell her to start her unique minecraft project that she can zatsu over while streaming.
Tell her to play more horror if she can handle it.
Otherwise I agree with the other anon, that last part does seem just a bit too much especially when Bae does sometimes go on a streaming spree, her problem is more timeslot and overlaps which you have mentioned already

>>29840680
If she drops the rrat voice and have constant jwu sex voice, there's hope for GFE

>>29840471
You should've added streaming at 11/12pm jst and become a garbage truck from JPs, but that's a good time for Koreans and NAs to watch streams of they have the time. Better yet, schedule gimmicks on JP Sundays since EN are allergic to stream at that time for some reason.

>>29840052
It's amazing how ID is getting such a boost off of basic MC competency and grinding autism.

>>29840568
Different. Audience. Tastes.
Like, inherent to their design and cultural heritage, jRPGs are, well, Japanese.
It's like asking 'why isn't burger football more popular around the world?!' when soccer is the predominant sport to watch.

>>29840694
Shit is barely containment breaking, no /here/ lingo and rrat shit.

>>29840694
Full of newfags, I'm telling you. Tempus and iLuna brought a lot of people that for some reason think that this is a good thread to spend their lurking. This one isn't so bad at least.

>>29840471
>not addressing the real elephant in the room
she will stay irrelevant lol

>>29840471
This
>>29840716
is actually a very good point
Tell her to take offs on some weekdays instead of the weekends, she should stream during weekends

>>29840761
Holos get so sensitive about their character voices that they just shut down if you mention it, I've seen it a few times in Kiara streams.

>>29840644
>>29840680
She can't, simply because she wants to collab with the males unfortunately.

Bae could be Council leader ..... but she killed herself , now she slowly become Sana 2.0
Too bad her model is S tier

>>29840790
I'm talking about males

>>29840644
She rebounded well during Feburary, but didn't follow up on it at all.

>>29840715
It's not about the voice, she has repeatedly gone out of her way to make sure that her fanbase are filled with people who has no problem with her thirsting for males and the truly devoted ones are just a step away from being militantly against GFE

>>29840790
I think he's referring to male interaction, as if that shit has ever affected viewership long term.

>>29840407
Come home Ange

>>29840466
Irys worked the least in the server but she made the most essential farm, the Melon farm that allows them to actually get emeralds for shit.

Honestly I think people would be more interested in MC streams if the girls actually built things like auto farms, or competent farms than just wandering around doing nothing. Even Kaela knows about this with her basically begging Gura to fucking finish Atlantis.

>>29840668
Imagine doing mostly JRPGs and yet another Elden Ring stream.

>>29840716
I didn't want to bring up specific numbers for when she should stream because those are limited by college and her other real-life commitments. I trust she can figure a good timeslot if she thinks it's important.

>>29840811
>Mori, Kiara, Axel, Regis and Ame is an S tier design
>Still get shit numbers

>Gura, Magni and Vesper is F tier design and rig
>S tier entertainers

>>29840816
Literally not even an actual factor anon, the schizos on this board aren't anywhere close to the general audience. Especially not compared to the other factors, that's like trying to optimize the 1% instead of the 99%

>>29840853
Anon? But yes come home Ange

>>29840790
He's talking about males which is very stupid and isn't the cause for Bae's numbers
>>29840644
Bae's problems are all fixable, she just needs to use her brain and go the Fauna route

>Mumei with a buff game and potential collab
>12k
>IRyS playing some kuso game
>10k
Not bad IRyS. I had a theory that more whorish girls will suffer once Homo English drops and I was right.

>>29840855
Minecraft has limitless potential for storylines that would get huge numbers and even be fun to perform
It just requires the imagination to do it

>>29840407
Pata ikz
>>29840853
That's Lain.

>>29840716
She'd probably get crushed by Watame.

>>29840471
Also add this: Tell her to be fucking shameless and brute force collab with those retard girls, they know they want to collab but no way in hell they will contact her.
Translate this to non-here of course!

>>29837376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvhB00Pu7o

>>29840603
>>29840708
You guys are probably right. I think a problem for her though is more the pacing. She needs to take a lot of breaks because she has a lot of commitments. I'm more worried that her projects in the background are leading to burnout which lead to more breaks.

But you're right and I'll think about editing the last section.

>>29840882
>>29840903
Still red to me

>>29840811
>Bae
>Sana 2.0
Bae actually streams, though?

>>29840811
Mumei has been the voice and Council leader for a long while. Don't really know about behind the scene shit but that's what appear to me.

>>29838493
they'll get converted to idols by brave group

>>29840855
>Even Kaela knows about this with her basically begging Gura to fucking finish Atlantis.
It bothers me more than it should that Gura said she's super motivated now to finish some projects and then she takes a 2 day break.
Even disregarding Gura, no one even tries to start projects in Minecraft except for Fauna.

On the Illuna area we have Maria closing in on 5k
I'm telling you man all Iluna fans need to just huddle together and boost Maria into a 4view, it's the only way they can get some bragging rights whenever Iluna is brought up.

>>29840962
Nothing a broken back can't solve.

>>29840970
moomers or fauna depending on the context
There's no other choice, Kronii is passive and Bae is a kid compared to the rest of them

>>29840970
Mumei ? NO

>>29840879
what does the average vtuber audience look like, are you trying to tell me that most of them are not lonely males from age 16-35 who use anime and vtubers as escapism because the are ugly or fat and can't get girlfriends for those or even worse reasons?

>>29840733
They got saved by Minecraft and they thrive with Minecraft

>>29837554
Why did you CROP Kyo’s numbers lol

>>29841000
She got some funnel from Scarle

>>29840644
Bae was doing fine during February though, and I clearly remember her saying during that month that the more consistent you stream the more you incline.
All she needs to do is find a timeslot and stream consistently, but she better hurry because when EN3 debut it’ll be too late.

>>29840900
It kinda also requires resources, which is why the first thing ID did was create numerous farms for most of them offline.
>>29840986
She did finish that one pixel art with Kiara, so she can be up to it if she has someone tard wrangling her. She loses focus way too fast by herself.

>>29840949
Here are a couple more points I thought of to consider for her if you can
Tell her to not be afraid of going off-schedule and doing a guerilla at a time when no one is streaming if she has a good idea or even just a random minecraft stream.
Mumei does this often + always gets the other girls roped into creative and fun guerilla collabs with her and that has done wonders for her numbers
Tell her to also try pandering more to the Koreans every once in a while if you can

>>29841037
*triggers you into another schizo attack*

>>29841000 (me)
5view excuse me

I love the underdog story of Tempus exceeding expectations. I hope for their success and that they'll be able to develop their own independent Tempus/HolostarEN fanbase. I just love Holo in general. I hope everyone in the company wins.

>>29840970
Are you idiots really doing this "leader" shit again? It's literally just fucking lore you retards

>>29841014
Is that their only buff game? Kinda sad

>>29841037
Kyo's was a collab POV, then again Kyo is one of the good ones... sometimes.

>>29840970
The thing with Council is that they have no Ame to really put in effort for the group. Mumei isn't really seen as the leader because she hasn't done the same amount of work that Ame did for the group and Fauna can barely even tard wrangle them in Minecraft.

>>29841076
B-but who's the leader of Myth thoooo

>>29841004
She SEEM like with. Like the recent Council+Irys collab, she's the one who run thing and addressing/thanking supporter, technical team.

>>29841076
Baffling post. it's not about some loreshit but about someone taking some fucking initiative in the whole gen

>>29841080
no, kaela's zatsudans have triple the audience of reine, it's clearly trickling down elsewhere

>>29841080
Anya has been getting 4k+ on Rust.

>>29841063
She knows..she knows she loses focus easily and is kinda dumb.
Part of the reason she joined Hololive in the first place, because she absolutely needs someone like a manager to needle her behind the scenes.

>>29840900
Cmon man someone just do redstone builds or automated farms, and as a bonus you could probably tour people around your builds in the future

>>29841076
Leader here means the one who propose and organize collab, group project and shit.

>>29841080
No but that is what they are most known for because of Moona and Keala

Two Months left ... Bae
/vt/ can't save you now
You will dead when EN3 come

>>29841000
Haven't check out Maria yet, how's she compare to wave6?

>>29840733
It's called comparative advantage. They just do what the others can't do, even if it's a simple thing.

>>29841118
Council doesn't even have that. Sana wasn't there, Kronii does the bare minimum, Bae is busy with projects, so all you have left is Fauna and Mumei. There's nothing to be a leader to take initiative in anything when everyone's disjointed from one another

Baelz literally called Pekora her sensei once and then proceed to do nothing to further that relationship
Imagine being able to just go to the numberfag prime herself and ask what she should do

>>29841170
Eigo Jouzu!

>>29841190
>Council doesn't even have that.
That is the point some anons are trying to convey, and the closest thing to that is fucking Mumei out of all people

>>29841170
Non-white hands typed this post.

>>29841146
That would work sure, but what I'm thinking of is this.
Fauna, message Gura, Bae, Irys, Kronii, whoever. Say you want to do a war storyline. Decide who's on what side before it even starts. Set up some basic scenario for how it begins, and improv it from there. Then do streams about building forts, gathering mats and weapons, doing the fighting, etc. etc. etc.
This is how every Minecraft streamer who has made millions over the past decade does it.

Mumei hasn't organized enough collabs to considered the leader. She is as lazy as the rest of council.

>>29840816
The only real problem you could say with that is that the way Bae interacts with them comes across too fangirl-ish like Ollie instead of professional like Mori or Suisei.

>>29841075
This is the only Based thing said in this whole thread.

>>29837554
You know what's funny, they probably have such low viewership for Q&A and SC readings because their Chinese and SEA fanbase literally can't understand them. That's funny but kinda depressing. Imagine having to stream and pander to a bunch of ESL 3rd worlders while your competition gets the prime NA audience. It's like when Vox streamed Runescape and literally nobody understood what he was saying.

>>29841177
Cute model girl does cute noises is the way I'd describe it, I haven't hanged around enough to give proper judgement on that.

>>29841248
Her recent collabs and interactions would say otherwise
I don't think she spilled her spaghetti past that one apex collab

>>29841248
>fangirl-ish like Ollie
This, there is barely any professionalism in it.

Bea doesn't care about numbers
She join Hololive just to fuck Roberu

Guys, i think Bae might have asked Mori for streaming advice which lead to her being like this.

>>29841290
I hope she succeeds. I sympathize with anyone who wants to fuck their oshi and Bae has better chances than most.

>>29841080
They should play more SEA fotm like valorant or bootleg fall guys, sit back and watch their numbers incline

>>29841290
Based

>>29840878
Nah, rigging definitely worse but Gura's design is much better than Kiara

Wait the digimon survive sponsorship...is a 2 POV collab between Kronii and Bae? Why, sponsors, why

>>29841302
This is no secret, they all did and Mori proudly told everyone that she told them to chill out all the way from the start.

>>29841302
Should asked Kiara .... she's a numberfag

>>29841302
Seeing as there's now surrogate father figures in EN, this will lead to a net improvement across the board for these girls.

>>29841236
rust is much better than minecraft if you want something like that

https://youtu.be/Aml7mhqsi3I
why the fuck is Mel playing Holocure now?

>>29841290
>you'll never be charismatic enough to make some random girl you've never met fall madly in love with you and follow you to the ends of the earth just to be with you

>>29841290
based
idolfags should actual aim for their idol and be above every other fan

>>29841359
Everyone loves Noir. He is like Yagoo-lite in that no one can find anything to hate him.

>>29841345
>>29841359
I was talking about advice on the way she should stream, content and such... And Mori is probably one of the worst one you can ask of if you want better stream.

>>29841340
And Digimon Survive doesn't even need two POVs, let alone two shills. It's a goddamn Visual Novel with 20% turned based gameplay like Utawarerumono. I swear the marketing for this game outside of Japan is a disaster with how many people still think Digimon = Pokemon

>>29841267
I don't think they give a shit when they're on the golden Chinese SC teet.

>>29841379
Roommate work > Holo work as always for Mel

>>29841118
Tell me how many JP gens have someone like that, it's not important.
These days there's only Gen3 showing up together in their 3D lives and that's up to the one who hosts the 3D live, not a specific leader.

>>29841454
Man I still remember way back then, there's a brief time period when Digimon is just as popular as Pokemon

>>29841402
money can buy what charisma cant
t.poorfag

>>29841454
The shill tweet from Kronii told people to discuss the game on facebook lol...

>>29841340

>>29841379
Mel just be chillin nothing to see here

>>29840986
>It bothers me more than it should that Gura said she's super motivated now to finish some projects and then she takes a 2 day break.
Nigger she isn't on a fucking break, I know it's fun on /vt/ to pretend Holos lie about this shit, but she's been saying for weeks she's doing actual behind the scenes shit like recording and projects. Repeatedly.

>>29841368
NTA, but I do agree on that. I think it could be workable to also have the conflict go from MC to RUST if they want to try and lure some of the MC audience over though. Get them hooked and drag them basically.

>>29841540
>>29841547
Oh god I can't wait the immense disappointment from these two and chat for reading a bunch of text with no gameplay after the tutorial that lasts 5 mins.

>>29841570
Anon, Gura is just like Aqua, lazy as fuck.

>>29840694
There's no schizo shit in there, it's filtered. Learn what actual "containment breaking" means.

>>29841000
I got her on my recommended and had to filter it, so probably a big casual holo audience watching her rn.

>>29840471
Add the FOTM games part. Be the first ones to stream a FOTM game, don't be the #30 of that game among your coworkers because by that time most people already watched the gameplay

>>29841647
She has also been at the top of my recommended all evening, and all I've done is listen to Hololive songs while working. Bullish for her I guess.

>>29841379
She's a genius vampire

>>29841267
QRD on Vox and RS?

>>29841696
He's a big runescape nerd and done multiple streams of it.
Stopped a few months back tho.

>>29841379
smart girl
she's trying to line it up for the late august update when first gen is added

>>29841118
>>29840970
SNOT is better than Council anyway. I don't know why people like to obsess over having everyone in the same gen collab with each other, the mixed gen groups like SMOK, Bakatare, Shiraken are more fun because the girls end up naturally creating those groups on their own.

>>29841491
Wasn't it the opposite a few months back?

>>29841647
It helps she's playing Getting Over it, something that Mumei recently played and in general seems to be one of the games that has good inter-company overlaps.
I know Uto blew up back in the day because of her Getting over it streams.

>>29841570
Honestly this reason would sound more believable if it weren't already used by a dozen different Holo before Gura already

>>29840736
>It's like asking 'why isn't burger football more popular around the world?!' when soccer is the predominant sport to watch.
Because the majority of the world is too poor to play football.

>>29841733
Yea, when he realized his audience didn't fucking understand him and he got middling numbers for it.
Which is....really a shame for him, but that's his call on content and pandering to the audience he ended up attracting instead of trying to carve out his own.

>>29841794
That's a big part of it, but the other part is cultural to an extent (Yes I know rugby is basically the better american football that has much of the same draws, but doesn't suffer from being a poorfag filter).

>>29841762
The idol-like culture
Fan always expect them to stick together like a group because that's how idol group work. Any other grouping are just extra and the gen thing are still their "main" grouping in the audience mind
And not like shit is that popular, more often than not you will find Holo girls who have no grouping at all

>>29841236
Fauna has probably given up on starting any SMP Minecraft arc after she tried to do it spontaneously and Kronii was too autistic to realize

>>29841663
I couldn't figure out how to format this feedback, but I agree it's important. I might edit the comment to include it later.

>>29841811
I actually had quite high expectation for him on his debut when he said he likes playing Smash and Runescape. Look where he got to now, what a shame.

>>29841771
I can't believe she and Ren are making a coordinated effort to leech off Mumei.

>>29840894
>Kusoge
Literally a fanmade game with her in it, these are ultra buff games
Ame got 28K CCV playing smol Ame, Mumei got 20K+ with the Mumei game, etc

>>29842026
Imagine if one of the Tempus boys becomes a Vox. Imagine if Noir starts doing daddy ASMR and that's all his fans turn up for and he stops doing autistic shovelware let's plays.

>>29841773
>>29841611
First of all, Gura did not just stop streaming, she streamed just the other day, second, we are aware of at least several projects she is working on, it is not unbelievable. And before you start with
>HURR, BUT OTHER HOLOS ALSO HAVE PROJECTS AND THEY STREAM 24/7 DURR
what others do does not matter, Gura is her own person and she works at her own pace.

>>29842108
Uncle Nowa will never do that

>>29842108
i want to kill you for writing this out and putting it online

>>29842108
This is where having that meme-tier rigging/model comes in handy, it drives away the coomers.

>>29842108
Nowa is pure.

>>29842117
Woah just tell us that we were wrong. You really hell bent on protecting the shark huh

So it begins, the first real blackship (Uproar doesn't count).

>>29842252
>not really Holostars
>not really Hololive EN
Tempus doesn't deserve to be cursed by the Holostars brand debuff.

>>29842281
>not really Holostars
???

>>29837554
>still immensely better than thousands of 1,2 and 3views
Ok holoJP 1st army fag, chill a bit will you?

>>29842108
while vox was engaged in grooming minors, uncle nowa practised the blade

>>29842281
No, fuck you, it's what makes them even more impressive. That despite being cursed with the greatest debuff of all that is Holostars brand, they still manage to gather a decent amount of audience.

>>29842343
Don't parade around your 4views, it is embarassing to watch.

>>29842347
Kek. Can't believe he made that joke during the Mario party stream.

>>29842307
>>29842350
I believe Oga when he said they're really not Holostars and its true, they're western content creators but with the magic Cover filter.

>>29842343
>Missed the point

>>29842002
Kronii's roommate already has her own Minecraft SMP

>>29842417
I would extend that and say this is true for holoEN too, especially councils.

>>29842117
I’ll go against the grain and make what should be the real criticism about Gura: she’s so afraid of failing she ends up overthinking and “over engineering” her projects, instead of doing a “good enough is good enough, let’s release it”.
You can see that in her collab with Kaela, when Kaela and Gura are in front of the board signs and Kaela kicks her into having to start building Atlantis.

Gura reaction?
>Nooo! Now I’ll have to study what Greek architecture looked back then!
I say she meant it 100% and she is incapable of just fucking throwing some quartz on top of each other in the general classical style, calling it Atlantis and being done with it.

I bet that is the cause for so many projects in the background and so few actually finished and disclosed.
She takes on a project, sets up an immensely high effort high expectations goal for it, loses the momentum for it and the takes on another project.

>>29842461
Shhh I already said that in 2020 and HoloEN fags piled up on me for being right 2 years later

>>29842417
>>29842461
Literal last samurai tier retardation.

>>29841075
their fanbase seems pretty independent, the overlaps with the girls don't hurt them too badly and there doesn't seem to be too much funneling back and forth

>>29842462
Isn't that what happens to her music projects? Ditched a lot of them because she hates it at the end.

>>29842462
Need to have someone able to wrangle her or carry the work like Mori did with Q. Going to have to hope Kaela keeps on top of her for it or Watame actually pushes her on that song on hope omega doesn't get in the way.

>>29842417
By not really holostars, does he mean actually successful?
I don't want to hear sour grapes from the HoloJP boys, their plight isn't StarsEN's fucking fault

>>29842530
Because there simply isn't any standard
1)HoloJP uniformly has
2)HoloJP members don't fail at themselves
3)HoloEN can't meet.

Fucking Gura for example is more of a HoloJP idol like character than Coco ever cared to be, complete with her goals and aspirations.

>>29842350
>That despite being cursed with the greatest debuff of all that is Holostars brand, they still manage to gather a decent amount of audience
Tempus is like Myth back 2020, gigabuffed to max first EN gen that was also collecting clip watchers from JP streams for months.

>>29842530
You’re dumb, all they’re saying is that, despite being under the same umbrella, HoloEN is their own thing with their own style, brand and personality distinct from HoloJP, and that Tempus likewise with Holostars.

If you disagree with that you’re dumber than people thought before (which is hard)

>>29842530
The EN branch aren't bad, but they're like localized anime to suite western streaming compared to JPs. IDs are the off brand third world kind you would outsource manpower from. Not bad, but actually just different and its okay.

>>29842531
Their fanbase is something much much worse than HoloEN watchers. They're FORMER HoloEN watchers checking the hot new thing out.

This is devastating because current HoloEN watchers actually watch shit, so outside of overlaps they'd boost the boys. But former shiny new toy chasing tourists will fuck off naturally, or fuck off to HoloEN.

>>29842582
Culturally different and being closer to HoloEN than JPstars which is kinda right

Marine's sub is still growing WTF

>>29842640
>they're like localized anime to suite western streaming compared to JPs
What does that mean? Obviously they don't stream like japs, but they have all the core hololive aspects that people like about the brand. The brand isn't about
>let's organize a gameshow and loudly react and go EEEEEEEEH
I see no real differences in what they give, even if there are differences in content styles.

I think you are all retarded.

>>29842658
meds

>>29842682
MV broke into a group of people that weren't already watching vtubers.

>>29842658
Anon, to use a local sample: /mans/ isn’t beating 250 ips because former EN watchers.
I say Tempus is attacting regular meatspace game streamer watchers.

>>29842719
And you would be correct

>>29842582
He just said HomoEN isn't like HomoJP that's it. No one fucking knows what he's actually saying cause he doesn't elaborate any further. But as a long time Majin watcher, I don't think he means anything bad.

>>29842719
I'd disagree with you, but I also haven't left this thread.

>>29842719
Agree, am retarded, and am seeing some retarded posting going on right now.

>>29842733
>mans/ isn’t beating 250 ips because former EN watchers.
It fucking totally is? 90% of the thread is people comparing them to the girls and how its so much better here than in the girls generals and how they haven't been so excited since Myth released etc

>>29842719
I can't speak for anyone else here but I'm a 145 iq genius
I just haven't lived up to my potential due to circumstances out of my control, that's all

>>29842658
Maybe if the Tempus boys prove to be better than HoloEN girls then the "former" fans will stay. There are a ton of reasons why the big HoloEN audience from 2020 whittled away to other indies, NijiEN, etc.
Also kinda proves that the accelerate strategy is kinda good for audience retention and brand loyalty for retards who have loyalty and want the fresh shiny new thing

>>29842719
Smartest post in the thread

>>29842658
We've already confirmed this isn't the case. Magni got 8.5k overlapping Fauna's 11k. They quickly jumped to 9.9k after she ended and likely would have gone up to 11k if they were given another hour. So there are like 9k people who would rather watch StarsEN than LiveEN and then an additional 1-2k who will watch Stars if Live isn't live.

>>29842778
all are see are thirsty ass faggots and femanons (self proclaimed) I dont think they made up /vt/'s core Myth peak audience

>>29842806
Please, choke on meds

why the fuck did they make a second rosemi?

>>29842778
I actually pity them. They wanted to enjoy anime-like stuff but never did their reps to fully enjoy the JPs.

>>29842788
Same I don't blame myself for not doing better, I blame my environment and circumstances that made me like this. I could have been a rocket scientist.

>>29842909
Never can't have enough Rosemis

>>29842909
'cause the first has fumbled face first into the ground, might as well give her current fans a replacement.

>>29842882
no u

>>29842434
what point? no one expected iluna to become the number one vtuber group
oh gomen i forgot that for numberniggers you have to be a 5 view otherwise you're a failure lmao

>>29839037
graduation and kills herself

>>29842909
They forgot that they already had Rosemi

>>29842778
>90% of the thread is people comparing them to the girls
I wish I had an imagination this vivid and that didn’t involve meds to stop the voices

And the thread has gone to shit....

>>29839037
Unironically try to build a core audience that understands her and appreciates anything she does at this point because she like Ollie has burned the greater Hololive idol unicorn box

>>29842951
I can say that with absolute certainty: NOBODY expected iLuna to fall below the OG NijiEN girls before their 10th stream.

>>29842530
>Saying anything slightly negative about EN mean last samurai
That is not even negative btw. Stop being so sensitive

>>29842951
holofags always downplay Niji successes while making a big deal out of anything Holos shit out, nothing new

>>29843070
It makes it easier when the shiny new NijiEN wave is being outranked by Holo boys.

>>29842597
Myth is unironically the most talented generation of Hololive, maybe even all of vtubing. It's unfair to compare them to anyone.

>>29843185
>multiple streams vs one stream at the time

now calm down with the falseflagging bait everyone

>29843193
not sure if bait

>>29842951
Lol, don't play dumb
You Nijinigger hyped ILuna up to hype heaven

>>29843227
The whole criticism to the “accelerate” model is exactly that and what you’re trying to cling to as a “cope blanket” is a self inflicted problem: releasing six more streamers in a branch with twenty of them already.

>>29842562
>Watame actually pushes her on that song
Huh?

>>29843280
Gura is the most subbed vtuber of all time. Mori has multiple #1 albums on iTunes and the Oricon. She's one of the best selling vtuber artists of all time. Ina is a world class artist, one of the series she did designs for is getting an anime this very season. Amelia is one of the most innovative vtubers of all time, literally pioneered the 3D chibis and held Myth together in times of struggle. Kiara
So no, it's not bait and you're retarded for ever believing it was bait. Literally refute anything I just said. Anything.

>>29842108
That might be an improvement.

>>29843412
Did you misplace the punctuation, anon?

>>29842951
>before debut
>NIJI NEW WAVE WILL MOG HOLOEN GET FUCKED HOLOBRONIES
>after several disappointing numbers
>no one expected iluna to become the number one vtuber group
why nijinigger always act like this?

>>29843412
No, Mori never had any #1 albums on Oricon.

>>29842971
Now that you mention it.

>>29843459
why do holobronies have a victim complex over nijiEN

>>29843412
We are talking about talent now not numbers and in that case even gamers are superior to myth.

>>29843497
Don't pin this one on just SEA, it's waking hours for Euros too, and we know those fuckers can be just as ESL and bad as SEA at shitting things up.

>>29843405
She's proactive enough in music and not afraid to talk to EN, so she can probably get Gura to do something to completion.
https://youtu.be/u7EWIbzTKAY?t=6921

>>29843564
Talented at what? Sucking cock?

>>29842108
you would like to imagine that wouldn't you, sister

Instead of shitting up this thread my fellow SEAbros, why don't you go with me Library EXP gem field farm in Diablo Immortal instead

https://twitter.com/itoridayo/status/1554290824015278083?t=KL04gfu5m2fCLr0xwTxNVg&s=19

>>29843588
Your obsession with Myth is not really that interesting, the only thing that surprised me is you didn't include your obligatory gokisei hate part.

>>29842788
>>29842917
Same
Damn God really collected us all in ths shithole to laugh at didnt he

>>29843588
NTA, but I wish. Can't get that cat out of my head.

>>29843629
>Immoral
No thank
I'd rather touch grass than playing that trash

>>29843661
Ren just setback the interactions a few months later with one retarded move

>>29843572
>it's waking hours for Euros too
it's 10-11 AM here fucktard, if you want to use EU as your boogeyman at least check the time

>>29843880
yet here (you) are shitposting this early in the morning

>>29843661
Are people really that retarded to not understand why this particular nijiholo interaction is bad? And that's without taking the roommate background in consideration.

>>29843918
>yet here (you) are shitposting
please don't project your stuff into me, thanks

>>29843949
Idolfag bad Incel bad touch grass good