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Kiryu Coco
>2 years of being in hololive
>The most controversial idol who cussed like a sailor
>10/10 in English, was able to communicate with overseas bros
>Her fluent Japanese and English created a bridge for overseas fans because all idols except Haachama at that time didn't know english
>Asacoco, Meme review, and many other hilarious shows she hosted
>shared her apartment with other hololive girls
>Survived the Zhang onslaught
>Highest paid Hololive member
>Decided to leave because she wanted to go full independent and pursue her happiness
>Interview with Yagoo
>An epic graduation ceremony where she had a chat with each hololive member
>Left with a banger song
>Became an unforgettable legend in the vtuber community

Tsukumo Sana
>Gets hired through nepotism, essentially taking an audition spot that got secured by Ina
>Debut was alright but after debut she took a break, missing the most important moment to build her fanbase
>Back pain making her barely stream
>Old dog died of natural death, so had to take a break for a month
>Lowest sub rate compared to other EN vtubers
>Barely any collab with them, including her friend that got her into Hololive Ina. No epic duo like Okayu and Korone.
>She had a secondary job that paid better so she didn't really care about streaming
>Marathons so she could fill her weekly quota and fuck off
>Graduates not even reaching a year of her anniversary
>Graduation was scribbled letters, not even direct contact with each hololive member, songs were alright at the end though

What did Sana achieve through her career with Hololive? What kind of impact did she leave in the hololive community? Coco left a legacy, Sana left a bitter taste, especially since she didn't even earn her spot in Hololive, to begin with. We could have had a streamer that cared about streaming and put passion into it, but it's obvious Sana couldn't wait to jump the ship so she could focus on her career as an artist.

>> No.29687119

>>29687049
auditions will be stricter and demand more commitment, obviously

That's what any of the usual corpos would do

>> No.29687126

>>29687049
>What did Sana achieve through her career with Hololive?
She was in some nice collabs.

>> No.29687184

>>29687049
should have compared coco to kson

>> No.29687268

>>29687049
>10/10 in English
We must be from different timelines.

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>>29687049

>> No.29687307

>>29687049
Her legacy will be Cover making it clear you can't just sit on your ass and not give a fuck.

>> No.29687314

>>29687119
Hopefully no more nepotism

>> No.29687476

>>29687049
Why does everyone shit on Sana for getting hired through nepotism? That spot was reserved for someone close to one of the hololive members anyway. Cover probably wanted to hire someone that was close to one of the EN members, to create an EN version of Korone and Okayu, and Ina gave a suggestion.

This wasn't Sana's fault. Nepotism is fairly common in Japanese corporations

>> No.29687558

>>29687049
>Tsukumo Sana
Who?

>> No.29687612

>>29687476
>That spot was reserved for someone close to one of the hololive members anyway.
This is why you are a burger flipper and not a hiring manager

>> No.29687961

>>29687314
I am fine with nepotism as long as the streamer is willing to commit her time to streams and not take frequent breaks. I also expect to have a special collab with the person that got her into Hololive

>> No.29688301

>>29687307
But Sana gave a fuck

>> No.29688383

No one cared for sana untill the graduation announcement

>> No.29688568

>>29687476
This, it's actually not too rare else where especially in creative industries.

It's essentially part of what you know and part who you know.

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>>29687049
I love Saltana slander

>> No.29689199

>>29688383
First EN member to graduate, proving that Hololive EN was a mistake

>> No.29689267

>>29687049
>Dude be talking shit about people's achievements while they stuck in 4chin

tbf she did
>Debut art
>3D models for the council
>Irys's mascots
It's not much of an impact but the latter two will last for years to come.

>> No.29689269

>>29688383
The Truth no one wants to own up to.

>> No.29689408

>>29687126
thats not an achievement
>she needs a symbolic one, the thing that made her unique
>well its too late now

>> No.29689690

>>29689199
Hitomi Chris proved that Hololive was a mistake

>> No.29690155

>>29687558
Don't be like that anon. It's important to learn from the past.

>> No.29690229

>>29687476
Was there any such things for myth? Curious

>> No.29690233

>>29687314
isn't more than half of holoJP is result of banpire nepotism

>> No.29690293

>>29689408
See>>29689267

>> No.29690714

>>29690233
Gamers is the result of Fubuki's nepotism

>> No.29691011

>>29690229
Probably Kiara

>> No.29691830

>>29690233
No?

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Kiryu Coco
>became kson

Tsukumo Sana
>didn't become kson

gotta go with sana on this one

>> No.29692815

>>29687049
>Coco
Sold out to vshitshow a year later despite saying she'd never go corpo again.
>Sana
Sold out to chink gacha games to do artwork

Yet Sana is better in this regard

>> No.29692914

>>29692815
She meant not join Nijisanji retard

>> No.29693312

>>29687049
If we stop memeing around and we're being honest for a second:
>Sana
Has an actual skill that required years of effort and practice to cultivate that companies are willing to pay her for
>Coco
Has the skill of... appealing to le leddit trannies by being a Pewdiepie-knockoff, and becoming a sad quasi-fleshtuber coomer-baiter despite having just hit the wall

Yeah. I don't know, guys. Tough choice.

>> No.29693464

>>29693312
>Has an actual skill that required years of effort
I didn't know taking frequent breaks and doing a weekly marathon is a skill

>> No.29693490

>>29687314
Recommendations from employees and members are fine as long as they commit

A lot of early holojp was scouting and friends bringing along friends - but they kept to their commitments

>> No.29693676

>>29693312
>Has an actual skill that required years of effort and practice to cultivate that companies are willing to pay her for
>Didn't draw
>Didn't stream
Her strongest skillset is being lazy

>> No.29693964

>>29687268
It's fascinating, but honestly not too surprising how much better her English seemed to be when she was in Hololive. When none of the others were fluent, and the only other girl who was advertised as an English speaker was god awful at speaking it, of course she would appear 10/10 in comparison.

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>>29693464
>>29693676
Seethe.

Your oshi
>can't sing
>can't draw
>can't compose
>no other skills
>can't even be a vtuber anymore
Your fleshtuber oshi should be banned from the board at this point. She's off-topic.

>> No.29694291

Anons, does anyone has copypasta of vsluts' sins, member by member? It was spread widely after Kson's debut announcement, but I didn't save it. Have to show it to some of my dumb friends who still defend them. Google didn't help

>> No.29694682

>>29687314
There's good nepotism and bad nepotism. We just call good nepotism networking.

>> No.29694755

>>29687049
Coco left Hololive a legend, and then spent a year doing streams demonstrating that while Asacoco and her other short/cancelled projects were creative, they really were just fortunately timed and useful outlets for someone that otherwise had little to contribute to the direction cover set out on. I don't think she has the capacity to produce content like she did as Coco without someone else giving her parameters to work within, and I think it's sad that in ten years we'll probably look back and consider the content she made when she was unhappy to be better than the content made with her "creative freedom".
Sana? I expect it was unpleasant for her to see colleagues putting more effort into their roles while she was coasting - especially as the disparity in popularity grew. I don't think it was the case that she didn't care. Giving up something close to a sinecure would be very odd if you didn't care. For me she was mediocre from start to finish.

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29694798

>>29687049
This. it has lots of clips so clippers were able to earn lots of money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVqG5bhjzg

>> No.29694976

>>29687049
>10/10 in English, was able to communicate with overseas bros
I've always been confused how can her English be so fucking bad, she makes mistakes I couldn't imagine any native speaker ever making.
t. ESL

>> No.29695051

>>29687049
>Survived the zhang onslaught

Cope

>> No.29695160

>>29694798 (me)
I wish hololive contract sana to create more of this for other member

>> No.29696448

>>29687049
>>Her fluent Japanese and English
Somehow she doesn't sound native in either of these

>> No.29696544

>>29687049
>Created a bridge to english fans
>Hilarious meme review and asacoco
This is some serious historical revisioning for the reddit dragon

>> No.29696798

>>29696448
Her english was more fluent than Japanese

>> No.29697041

>>29687049
Taiwan is not a country and is a province of the People's Republic of China

>> No.29697751 [DELETED] 

>>29693312
Wow thats some copium. Should've joined holo as illustrator artist than became a chuuba, faggot.

>> No.29697888 [DELETED] 

>>29697751
Yep. Now enjoy your fleshtuber and leave /vt/, then neck yourself

>> No.29697998

>>29688383
She did not give people anything to care about.

>> No.29698172

>>29697998
All her stream lowest ccv never below 2k. Yeah she give nothing for people to care that 2k+ ppl always show up to care.

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>>29697998
I cared.

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>>29687049
>>29687049
>Be Ina
>Korean. Asian jew
>Holo EN debut in 2020 was a huge success
>Fast forward to 2021
>LazuLight debuts
>Everyone is a nigger but notices the market will saturate eventually
>Appeals to Omegatranny but gets ignored
>Jewish autism kicks in
>Device plan with lover to open Cover's eyes
>Lover will debut as next gen Holo and perform so terribly Omegacuck will have no option but to do his job
>"You'll basically get to keep your chink gacha job and also make some free buck"
>Ina sacrifices her nepotism hire for the greater good
>To this point Omegakek has become so incompetent he accepts whatever whore
>Tsukumo Sana debuts on 08/22/21 >"All InAccording to keikaku humu humu"
>Lover's dog mysteriously dies all of a sudden
>In reality, lover came to Canada to have intense raw yuri sex
>Lover arrives to your house
>Sexual tension is so strong you both undress at the doorfront
>Slip finger inside lover's manko
>"Oya oya"
>Lover pulls out a condom and puts it on her 14" chocolate futa cock
>Leans towards you and whispers >"I bought this with my first akatsupa"
>Sister walks by
>Scene is so hot Anenis can't help but masturbate in front of you
>11 months pase
>Omegatranny got yelled at by Cover for incompetence
>Realize no other company comes even close to Cover in terms of quality
>Auditions are a 200% stricter
>Hololive is saved

>> No.29699754

>>29697041
Okay chink

>> No.29699930

>>29693676
Back pain and dog died

>> No.29701214

>>29694976
it used to be a lot better, you forget shit real quick when you stop using a language as your primary one

>> No.29701274

>>29697041
Nice try zhangscum, but you and your tin pot dictatorship of a country will always be an inferior shithole. I'm surprised you have time to have internet temper tantrums, don't you have some intellectual property to steal or some little old ladies to imprison in their homes because they have a cough?

>> No.29704170

In retrospect she should have just dropped streaming games altogether and made her channel a dedicated holo art stream. It is clear it was what she was most passionate about.

>> No.29704347

>>29687049
>What did Sana achieve through her career with Hololive?
She created Bloom and Gloom. I will always remember her as long as those two are around. Ina promised, but a year+ and there still wasn't anything but idea. Sana created those cute fuckers within one stream

>> No.29704534

I really need to stop frequenting other fucking threads, but the gall that you fucks have to throw stones not even a whole day after Sana's graduation. Piss off.

>> No.29704613

>>29704534
>Expecting tact on /vt/
Go back to your safety bubble.

>> No.29704642

>>29687049
Sana shows what a mistake Council is, they will all leave this kind of poor legacy

>> No.29704706

>>29687049
>10/10 in English
try harder baitman

>> No.29704868

>>29687314
>hopefully no more nepotism
nigger vshojo hired kson and [REDACTED]
The entire industry IS nepotism

>> No.29704978

>>29687476
>create an EN version of Korone and Okayu
That's exactly why she gets shat on. JP nepotism got us Korone and Okayu, EN nepotism resulted in a lazy gacha addict that graduated in less than a year and didn't even stream for half that time.

>> No.29705154

Sana's biggest accomplishment was being the first graduated member who wasn't pushed out by Cover management's incompetence. That's pretty big.

>> No.29705250

>>29687314
Nobody tell him about Tempus

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>>29687314
Nepotism isn't inherently bad. Having members who are already friends prior seems really good for interactions. Think Okayu and Korone.

>> No.29706396

>>29694682
On /vt/ we call it nepotism if someone has ever interacted with another member in any capacity prior to recruitment. Actual details of the recruitment process are not required

>> No.29707002

>>29694682
just dont take the bait man these people cant even get bothered to get a job

>> No.29707180

>>29687049
luv Coco
luv Sana
Simple as.

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>>29687049
You tell them how it is!

>> No.29712703

>>29707180
Why do you love sana?

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