/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>29227351
It's because NijiEN has chinese fans

>>29227503
oj yeah? what about nijiJP then? retardchama

>>29227503
VShojo collab with NijiEN, though

>>29227351
>CCCCCCCOOOOOOPPPPEEEE
>You are ...wrong...because...because... you are wrong

>>29227351
>NijiEN can collab with Vshojo
>NijiEN can collab with HoloID
You forgot 2 tiny details, faggot.

>>29227351
Well, yeah, it can be. Disregarding recent events nothing you've listed there means it's impossible that Cover haven't simply put a company wide ban on streaming with NijiEN for whatever reason.

>>29227351
>Nijisanji can collab with Vshojo
>Nijisanji can collab with holoJP
>Nijisanji can collab with holoID
but Nijisanji can't collab with holoEN and somehow, someway it's anycolor's fault
it's a mutual block. it makes no sense otherwise.

>>29227351
yeah it's definitely niji going after cover guys

>Pomu can stream an otaku collection review where she showcases Myth merch and calls them out by name
>basically embedded advertising for Cover
>but it's definitely Nijisanji blocking streams

>>29227351
is cover's management still powerful enough to make chuubas in other companies follow cover's orders?

>>29228877
>Kiara can send a gift to Pomu but she can't show it on stream
>but it's definitely Hololive blocking it

>>29228815
Just saw FalseEyeD's videoa bout the Pomu Kiara collab probably not happening and since I don't follow anything that goes on at Reddit I had no idea that the official Hololive subreddit was closing threads about the new Niji debuts + Tempus tweeting words of encouragement at each other while Nijisanji's official subreddit wasn't.

>>29229108
>Cover won't let HoloENs stream with NijiEN so Kiara sends her a message instead
>Anycolor tell Pomu she can't show it on stream
I think they're both being retarded

>>29227351
Comeback when holoEn can collab with Niji

>>29229373
it really makes you think

>>29228201
>NijiEN can collab with HoloID
No they can't, retard.
Ollie can collab with all of NijiID and Gundou from NijiJP. But she can't collab with Selen.

>>29229373
nijibeggers managed to burn all goodwill over there so they seem to go with a (nearly) 0 tolerance policy now

>>29228201
>NijiEN can collab with HoloID
retardchama

>>29227351
>Niji collab with many indies
>All luxiem collab with ironmouse even after kson joined
>Niji collab with vshojo
>many show merch holo on the pomu otaku stream, even pomu says merch ame is cute
Now just wait for Tempus collab

>>29227726
Chinese hate the Japanese

>>29229373
FalseEyeD is an idiot who can't see the reason behind it. People are fighting and downvoting half the posts in that thread. That's why it's locked.

Vshojo was banned too ever since they announced "that"

maybe worry about your own because holoEN and holostarsEN havent even collabed yet
holoJP and starsJP only happened once and never again

>>29230042
I mean maybe on some but not all. The thread primarily highlighted had 3k upvotes and the top comments were positive. Also had multiple threads that had all been removed because people would see that there wasn't a thread about it and make one only to have it closed.

>>29230163
most well informed retard on here

>>29230163
>holoJP and starsJP only happened once and never again
HOLY EOP

holobronyism enabled by their own subr*ddit lmao

>>29230099
Technically unconfirmed. Mouse has been working on getting Kiara on Speak of the Devil so if that winds up not happening you'll be correct.

>>29227503
So does HoloEN
Gura is still big over there

>>29229968
Exactly, JPs were their target, not EN. They don't have issues with EN. And yet JPs can collab but EN can't.

Just gonna say even if FalseEyeD is small in comparison with any holo/niji EN chuubas and easily dwarfed by 300ccv Indie on twitch streams but
>His video is watched by alot of chuubas
>his videos explode from time to time
>This newest one is already at 60k in 4hours
>Hololive is the "villain" in the video

This is will be a new age of tribalism because one small youtuber took a side
Raise your banner, war is brewing

>>29234139
>war is brewing
war started since lazulight >>29228815

>Nijisanji are collab beggars
>Nijisanji are the ones blocking the collabs
Nice brony doublethink.

HoloEN has always been weirdly restrictive. I remember when Haachama couldn't even visit the EN minecraft server for almost a year.
As always, I blame Omega.

>>29227351
Ollie not being allowed to collab with Selen at the last moment despite HoloID being allowed to collab with NijiJP and NijiID and Pomu not being allowed to play Kiara's video messages proves that the entire thing is Noor's decision.
The bitch has gone mad with power. Just look at the garbage she hired for the new wave.

>>29234682
>First war: HoloEN tactical overlaps during NijiEN debuts
>Second war: /vt/ week long battlefront after nijiEN discord leak that lings to this day
The Third war will be a public one, this time is not containment breach anymore, finally All Out War

>>29236009
Retard holofag, Noor and Ollie are friends.

>>29229373
People really don't understand, that place is so fucking restricted because the NIJI REDDIT IS FUCKING DEAD and they keep trying to merge with the Holo one at every chance they get

>>29236009
It could just as well be hololive upper management blocking it after ID management had it approved because they want NijiEN snuffed out.

>>29236435
>and they keep trying to merge with the Holo one at every chance they get
meds

Because ultimately Vshojo aren't really direct competitors to Nijis and Holos due to operating on different venues. Niji and Holo are competing for the youtube audience while Vshojo is primarily on twitch. If you a person who is mostly on youtube ever get tired of whichever vtuber company you follow, you are unlikely to decide to switch over to twitch just to do that, however a Holo/Niji you are more likely to jump to.

>>29227351
I doubt management's stopping them when the members themselves hate each other, didn't Pomu want to start a war with hololive?

>>29237209
>didn't Pomu want to start a war with hololive
No. Don't be retarded.

>>29227351
nijien's manager is a huge fag, simple as

>>29236737
> meds
for what? denying reality?

>>29227351
Dunno why you faggots have to be so retarded and tribalistic over this and make a thread every other day about it. It could be management on either side, or it could be both, but until you have the facts, you just keep making the same speculations and regurgitating the same verbal diarrhea over and over again.

>>29235589
hello intern-kun
this might confuse you but normal fans are not part of a company management
a part of a company fandom might be collab beggars while the management might be against collabs at the same time

>>29237937
when will we have these facts then

>>29237937
Well what else are they going to do?
Get a real hobby?

>>29237849
Not seeing any talk about "merging" there

>>29238201
cultural merge, getting enough talk about Nijisanji in the holosub and turning it into r/virtualyoutubers.
nijifans are the same as fucking locusts, they can't grow something on their own so they always try to take over existing spaces.
I'm glad they made a rule to keep this filth out, I don't care whose fucking feelings it hurts.

>>29238300
so no talk about actually merging, just your feelings
got it, ok

>>29238300
>holocusts calling other locusts
you're funny, you fucks are literally spamming every corner of the internet like bronies did back in the day

Oh nyo broa

>>29227351
It's BOTH Cover and Anykara's fault but we'll still have shitposters throwing out the usual baitposts.

>>29230099
Mouse recently said shea been working on something with calli, wether its more collabs or something music related who.knows

>>29238039
>Assume direct control over the reddit, mass-banning even the most casual mentions of other companies
>Astroturf /vt/ with retarded mods that forget to take off their tags when being blatant Holobronies
>Accuse others of doing the same
Cover truly are the jews of the industry.

>>29237849
Wow it's like there are people who watch both and don't exist in a vacuum where subjects that would naturally be about both groups can't exist.

I dunno what the major differences between JP and EN management is of either agency since I have always mostly watched JP, but historically speaking from 2018 onward I don't see any sufficient reasons to cast the initial suspicion of "collab blocking" on Niji's side. The EN vtuber scene is pretty gay and retarded in general though so maybe either side's authorities really are just that petty.

I like to believe there's some truth in both sides and seems it's all these trannies fault.

>>29227351
>>hololive can collab with Vshojo
>holos collab with nazuna
>they give her a funny green model
>they call her rushia as a joke

I saw a post somewhere on reddit, said the main reason they went after the dragon was because she was influenced by america, they think the t word was a intentional dig because of that. Maybe holo decided to block to avoid the nijicn fans targeting en.

>>29231613
>>29238615
NijiEN can't collab with Vshojo anymore since they took in Kson.

>>29241846
>says anon as vox was talking with melody on stream when iluna was announced

>>29227351
Nijien has literally said that their managers are the ones stopping the collabs

>>29241846
There has been 3 NijiEN collabs since Kson joined. 1 of which involves Mr. King China himself, Vox. I could see the assumption for the Shu collab since it was announced before Kson was in, but Mysta and Vox weren't and both happened.

>>29227351
>nijisanji can collab with Vshojo
>Nijisanji can collab with Hololive JP
>Nijisanji can collab with Hololive ID
but Nijisanji can't collab with HoloEN and somehow, someway it's anycolors fault.

>>29241999
so rent free in this niggas mind he calls the voices nijiEN

>>29239478
they can use r/virtualyoutubers for that
also you ignored all the shills bringing up NijiEN and other VTubers when there's absolutely zero connection to the OP, like the Polka post and the Holomoms post

>>29237209

I don't care which side is doing the blocking, but they should absolutely keep doing it

>>29242228
>all the shills bringing up NijiEN and other VTubers when there's absolutely zero connection to the OP,
it's pathetic and annoying.
if you searched hololive thread on /v/ archive, you will find these shills ask /v/ to watch nijisanji or vshojo.
imagine shillings vtuber to /v/ who really hate vtuber.

>>29227503
Explain pre-Luxiem.

>>29228815
This needs to be updated with Gura, Stars EN NEEDING to stream at a certain time, and when iLuna debuted. Management in Niji EN is too nice, or maybe they are just letting people notice a pattern in Covers maliciousness.

>>29227351
I think HoloEN management does not want their talents to collab with NijiEN because of the leak and Luxiem's hard incline made them insecure.
NijiEN then responded by banning HoloID and anything related to HoloEN.

>>29247191
>have a special discord to shit talk hololive
>"hololive tech in shambles"
>"council didn't do as expected"
>"all out war"
i'm enjoying the war. thanks to nijien livers for making this happen.

>>29242085
Ollie Selen collab when? None!

>>29247273
Still doesn't explain the Niji EN ban when it was only Lazulight and Obsydia. No wonder Holofags have an easy time rewriting history, they have a memory of a goldfish.

>>29227503
not becuase NijiEN has chinese fan
They FUCKING HAVE Chinese Manager.

>>29246900
>>29247654
see >>29247826

also , either one of you is a redditfags named /u/harming-Health-1312

>>29247913
Do you have proof of the Chinese manager? The only non-vtuber that is known is Noor. Or is it a convenient scapegoat that you have no proof of?

>>29247913
>either one of you is a redditfags
I'm not a Redditor, unlike you which knows Reddit usernames.

When Kson says talent freedom this is what she's talking about. Needing permission to publicly be friends with someone?

>>29248489
can you post some of those talent freedoms. the one about deepfake.
i want to masturbate.

>>29230042
>FalseEyeD is an idiot who can't see the reason behind it
He just reports the news, he doesnt give narratives. "See the reason" is a narrative.

>>29248826
Talent freedom doesn't refer to whore shit. There are plenty of people working for porn companies who have similar restrictions on what they do and who they work with as corpo vtubers. Talent freedom only means not needing to get manager permission for everything. And it means never having manager permission withheld constantly like the holos have complained about.

>>29249009
come aonn.
post the fake kson pron, its diff to type wit one hand.

>>29227503
chung ching

>>29227351
Fucking who cares at this point. It's probably not going to happen and no amount of stomping your feet and pounding your fists is going to change that. Time to get over it and move on

No one ever listens. It’s because NijiEn actually puts out YouTube ads on their wave debuts hoping to attract new viewers. They didn’t want a Salome situation where those new viewers then go watch Pekora, unfortunately for them it happened in the Salome situation.

>>29238730
you really know nothing about niji or holo do you? well here is some free shitposting material for your next shot

>>29259830
Don't act like you know anything beyond the Holobubble. All I posted were facts.

>>29238730
>Jews rejecting money
>Jews not trying to shed the core fanbase for normies

>>29260281
even if that was true, that would still be more than you know my man

>>29228815
Based shark

>>29261199
I've seen Kizuna Ai's channel when it had no more than 5K subs.
You EOPshits got bored of her in barely a few months and forgot all about vtubers until Holo copied Nijisanji's Live2D streaming model and showed it to you zoomie semi-humans.

Honestly, management on both sides is being pretty childish from what I can tell. Early hints from Kiara suggested it was HoloEN management, but then later incidents, like with Ollie/Selen, have suggested NijiEN is also being dumb about it.

Is /vt/ the only place where people till care about the leaked discord conversation?

>>29262796
Do /vt/ contaiment breakers on Twitter and Reddit count? Because the only people who care outside of /vt/ are blatantly that.

>>29247993
>demanding proof while accusing without proof all the time