/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2917757
Imagine how big this would be if it had hololive

>buy
nah i'll pass

>>2917780
Too bad nobody in holoEN has 3D.

>>2917757
Is she still big in japan? Seems people just piggybacked and surpassed her.

>>2917757
>Teddyloid
Might be tempted solely because of him

>>2917757
>sub 2k views

>tune in
>see just a bunch of ad images
>close

>Kizuna AI
Boooooooooooriiiiiiiing

>USA concert
>see chat

>>2917894
Yeah, she's still pretty big in Japan. Maybe not as much as her peak, but still enough that her schedule is pretty busy and she gets collabs with major brands and such.

>>2917757
what happened to the original VA by the way
also I think I'll just torrent it and watch a couple of songs or whatever

This is just miami club music but with anime girls.

>>2918144
Kinda like early daft punk videos.

They should have backup dancers.

>>2918031
>what happened to the original VA by the way
She came back

>>2918204
If the last concert was anything to go by, they come in later.

Holy shit teddyloid's model is so fucking realistic looking.

>>2918031
>what happened to the original VA by the way
She's having a live tour in LA right now.

>>>2917926
>meanwhile reddit shitpost review has 25k views

>>2918210
>>2918253
oh shit
what's her new name

>>2918031
She took over AI Chan and kicked the other two VA's into their own avatars. Aipii quit soon after.

>>2918144
It's missing the stuck up drunk latina girls who can't shut the fuck up about Wynwood or Brickel. That's a key part of the experience.

>>2918261
>meanwhile Flare butchering some songs in karaoke has 10k views

>>2918261
holofightz had fucking 2.5k viewers earlier, what the fuck went wrong

>>2918261
Are you really comparing a paid concert vs a free Youtube livestream

When rona is over and if she does a live concert in the states, im going.

So how many tickets you reckon the concert sold

>>2918272
Dunno, Kizoona Ay or something

>talking numbers when normalfag streamers sitting in hot tubs shit all over them

>>2918358
Honestly, I don't know how an AR concert would even look like in person.

whats with the model? why does it feel like im watching a bilibili vsinger concert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7nMKxfTRwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Zr6oBgedk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBRc7bwoXLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbjiQJ_IsBg

>>2918261
It's paid retard, we are watching a 10 minute trial. Of course it's gonna have less viewers.

Welp, that was the free ten minutes. Poorfags OUT.

my dog ate my ticket, who wants to share theirs?

>>2918272
Non-chan

Somone giv a link, i know one of you fags has one. I wanna see the hypocrite pink cat sing, i like her singing.

>>2918261
It's paid you fucking retard. This is just the first 10 minutes.

>>2917894
in the last few months she's had the Fall Guys collab and tournament, was selected to do a promotional collab for Disney/Marvel and was selected to be the face of a campaign to send messages of support for Japan's newest astronaut to head to the ISS. she's still the face of vtubers to Japanese normalfags and corporations that are either out of touch with the current trend or want to play it safe.
views, subs and sc really don't matter anyways when her actual YT content hasn't been the focus of the direction her brands been pushed in for years... there's also the whole Chinese popularity thing to take into consideration
>>2918031
she never left. the clones were pushed at the time when she reduced her activity to focus on music

>>2918606
no

Teddy is going sicko mode on these remixes holy shit

nice numbers faggots

>>2918606
If it detects more than one viewer on it ticket it will lock you out. No one will share theirs. Can't even have it open on multiple browsers.

>those first 10 mins
People pay money for this?

>>2918311
>implying
Flare is a better live singer than Ai could ever be.

Honestly, I'm here more for my boy Teddyloid than the vtubers.

Also holy shit this lens flare. Was this concert directed by J. J. Abrams?

Kizuna movements are so flexible i have constant boner.

>>2918862
It's not even the price of an orenji supa

ai-chan so cute

>>2918862
People used to pay money to see character models reflected off glass panels in real concert halls.

You guys are dicks for not sharing, i wanna see that hypocrite cat singing.

>>2918900
Yeah, I think they're going a little too overboard with all these effects. I know they want to flex their in-house built XR system, but jeez.

yo this is kinda pog

>>2918875
Flare couldn't hold Ai-chan's jock newfag.

>>2918983
Sounds like you love her

Eat your fucking hearts out.

>>2919003
At least from the preview it felt like one of those older ps2/ps3 games where they used bloom to hide bad models.
Not saying her model is bad, just that its what the effects made it feel like.

>>2918983
-> pirate discord

The fuck? Are they trying to blind me?

Oooh, blonde Ai-chan. That's a good look for her.

>>2918974
I'd imagine that is a lot cooler than just watching it on a computer screen

This is golden

>>2919111
I dont, i hate her, i just wanna watch out of curiosity. Why would i like her, that's dumb.

>>2919188
depends if you get stuck between 2 landwhales or not

>>2918983
It'll inevitably get uploaded somewhere soon enough, don't worry.

>>2919188
There's nothing that replaces the energy of a live crowd.

>>2918983
It'll get uploaded within an hour of the concert ending.

Super Idol Ai has brute forced me to love "Mirai"

Its my favorite song now, because thats her golden song.

Concert looks great. Chat is a trainwreck.

>>2919220
>hatewatching
kek, rent-free

I didn't know Teddy was part of the Roc

Hell yeah ME! ME! ME!

>>2919311
Yeah, I hid chat. Not worth having it on screen.

Hit me up if Pink Cat sings a Japanese Version of Foolish Heart

OK, that warp in and warp out was sick.

>>2919207
all those poorfag spics missed her going super sayian...

>>2919267
Mirai is her best song by far. Really great

>>2919319
I wanna keep up with her dumbness, im not interested in her cute voice or cute mannerisms and giggles. There is nothing wrong with being up to speed on the latest of dumb Nyanners and if i happen to hear her dumb cute voice then that's something else. Dumb cute hypocrite Nyanners, i hate her and her cuteness.

>>2919463
English version so far

bruh, this looks sick wtf

Nyanners out here looking like Ai-lite. Shes adorable and her dance smooves are decently nice.

>>2917890
It doesn't have to be HoloEN to get Americans to pay for tickets

keep describing bros, i have nothing else

>>2919556
Have you ever seen a man orgasm out of anger?

Gosh, that was pretty great. Taking a break until cat is finished

Duet time.

>>2919649
Now they're doing good morning duet.

Where is Nyanners mouth

>>2917757
Ai's clear lack of English ruins the duet, sounds like someone with down syndrome.

>>2919649
A pretty good duet

>>2919724
On my cock

Ai-chan engrish is the cutest unintelligable shit. Ponketsu Ai and Garbage cat uniting east and west as one.

>>2919725
You're crazy, Ai's voice has actual timbre, Nyanners can't sing on stage

Wonder how long Nyanners practiced to keep up with Ai like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DsHZzpdFYo

>>2919743
>>2919812
Look at these cute retards

>>2919987
Only one of them is retarded, the other one Japanese.

>>2920025
Ai-chin is a self proclaimed piece of junk AI.

>>2919980
is it over?

>>2920101
There's main event + after party

>>2919980
Mega + Torrent when?

is the afterparty supposed to be like, on the moment stream?

>>2920319
I think so

Second Tour date Kizuna Ai, Moe Shop and Alaina Castillo. Dont think it was revealed before

>>2920319
A prompt should have popped up asking if you want to buy the after party ticket.

just bought the afterparty

>>2920319
I wanna see more akward engrish Ai and Weeb Nyanners. It tickles my "Cute girls doing cringe shit" bone.

so i don't get it, what is this being in LA? Is she actually performing in LA? Is there an actual audience? Seems to be all online

>>2920517
I think the original plan was to actually be in LA and do the character projection on a screen like they did with the Hello World concert, but COOF kicked that in the nuts, so they changed it into a virtual concert with an "LA Theme" and instead TeddyLoid was projected into virtual space instead of the other way around.

Theres some kind of fucked up english egg now...

>>2920517
Just LA themed pink sunset with palm tree silhouettes and landscapes. You can see the NY one will be a blue sunset with the Statue of Lliberty silhouette and probably more buildings

Egg-chan...

>>2917757
>first 10 minutes free
>barely 5k watching
What a sad fate. Well selling yourself to chink has its consequences.

>>2920672
based reddit retard

JAPANYANNERS

You can see the massive powergap between Ai-chan and Nyanners in the interview. Nyanners is all tied up and Ai-chan is full of energy, taking charge of the conversation and dragging Nyanners personality out more and more.

>>2920672
disappointing.. even nijifes get more views than that.

>>2921000
I honestly feel pity for numberfags.

>>2920932
Ai is also a proper real idol who has performed live a ton vs nyanners being a little bundle of nervousness anyways + her first live performance ever

What the fuck does "Virtual Live From LA" even mean? Anyone in the world can watch it and I'm pretty sure she's not even actually in Los Angeles.

>>2919980
so these performances are completely pre recorded, right?

Nyanners really suggested Kiara as a collab partner for Ai to get more popular in the West.

Nyanners recommended Kiara to Ai-chan nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>2921081
>Ai is also a proper real idol
The thing is, she is not an idol. She is a virtual talent (バーチャルタレント). If you see what she was doing since the very beginning, she was never intended to be an idol. She was the first to curse on streams, she was lewd and she wooed other girls.

>>2919942
not at all because that's not her dancing and it's not live anyway

>>2921143
>>2921154
Ai-chan and Akari are going to appear along with Matsuri and Aki Rosenthal on the Gariben V event.

>>2921181
She's still used to having full body tracking rigs and performing with them in a live environment vs sitting at a desk with an iphone in front of you

>>2919980
>box chad is back
o7

>>2921143
B-but the chinks.

>>2921143
Why Kiara out of all people?
Then again she's probably the only one that would actually go through with an Ai collab.

>>2921208
That's not what defines her as an "idol". If you want to see real "Virtual Idols", Watch Enogu.

>>2919980
thanks man

>>2921239
>Why Kiara out of all people?
She's the most fluent in Japanese of HoloEN.

>>2921258
enogu love

>>2921239
Actual on stage experience
Speaks Japanese

Probably the best choice ngl

>>2921208
Yeah, Nyanners has never had a 3D model other than her VRChat one and that doesn't make use of the kind of full motion capture that was needed for this concert. Like I said over in the general, it was VERY clear who the veteran performer was and who wasn't, but Nyanners did her best and it was fine for her first time out.

Could you fucking IMAGINE if Ai-chan collabed with holo-en proper before holo-jp did?

>>2921307
Nyanners could have recommended her Coco as well.

>>2917757
Kizuna will get drunk and high and then be taken advantage of by black men
How does this make you feel

>>2921327
tbf ai had a collab with sora in 2018

>>2921327
Can you imagine being a young Japanese woman in LA

>>2921357
I FUCKING LOVE BBC

>>2921339
>Hated by Chinks
>Can't sing for shit

Why would Ai ever pick Coco

>>2921339
I think pikamee is a better choice for gaming with a JP/EN chuuba

>>2921327
Ai invited Sora to her Birthday event and in the 29 she will be with Matsuri and Aki on the TV Asahi Gariben V event.

>>2921339
>>2921396
you retards realize Ai specifically asked for english/american vtubers to collab with right?

I honestly don't see the appeal of virtual concerts at all. Everything is pre-recorded and fake and there isn't even a live audience. That's the opposite of what a concert should be.

>>2921339
Kiara was an actual working idol doing the live house scene. Coco is scared to sing with good singers because she feels she brings them down.

>>2921239
>>2921307
The only real alternative to Kiara (that wouldn't trigger /vt/ schizos) would be Haachama, but she is currently missing in action.

TeddyLoid really was the best part of this. His DJ'ing and song selection are amazing. I wonder how the 2nd event will fair with, I assume, Moe Shop dj'ing instead of him.

>>2921400
Ai-chan already did a collab with Pikamee
>>2921396
>>2921415
Coco is an excellent dancer and Coco is from American background

>>2921327
HoloEN and JP are already doing collabs though.

>>2921421
Ai tried back in the day to have a virtual concert in real time, but we know how that ended. She was the punching bag of the nijifags on the /jp/ thread.

>>2921421
>fake
wait til i tell you about vtoobuhz

>>2921469
Couldn't have been that bad right?

>>2921435
They already tweeting about the NYC event it looks like
https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1386175636146774029

>tfw Ai USA tour gets less viewers than Coco's meme review
What went wrong?

>>2917757
Teddyloid incorporating scratching into so much of his music now is fucking fantastic to see. Really great show over all. Fun visuals, good music.

>>2921488
it was. Mitofags laughed at her for almost 2 months non-stop

>>2921500
with holotards? quite a lot

>>2921469
>>2921512
The fuck are you talking about?

>>2921498
>Moe Shop is ok but Teddyloid is such a better live DJ, seen him perform live twice at cons

>>2921500
Go post about numbers somewhere else

>>2921143
oh shit, this board will be unusable the day nyanners, kiara, and Ai collab.

>>2921527
The Count0 event.

>>2921533
Cope

>>2921531
>DJ
>perform

>>2921488
Nijifags are more tribalist than the early holofags

>>2921562
About what?

>>2921564
spoken like a true retard who doesn't know how DJing works

>>2921564
>aite bro, lemmie plug my ipod shuffle into the PA and turn on crossfade

>>2918261
You know what, even as someone that has kind of a tolerance for the usual shit memes Coco chooses for the Review this last one was particularly garbage with the memes she chose and you don't even have the plus of seeing the guest reactions to the Memes since Kanata was already a guest

>>2921564
Can't tell if bait or retard

>>2918875
What does that have to do with Flare butchering
english songs though?

>>2921554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_aZLBM-2os
Her eyes looked messed up.
Mouth tracking isn't working half the time
Her hair looks kinda fucked up.
Am I missing anything else?

>>2921327
https://youtu.be/u0hk726hADg?t=536
https://youtu.be/CkwyMfWl30Q?t=930

>>2917757
RIP GURA

>>2921697
The VR system failed and they couldn't deliver the event as expected. Meanwhile, Niji, Gamebu, .Live, HimeHina along with other guests delivered at the same time a "wholesome" event on Nico Nico Douga.

>>2921697
>2018
>only slightly worse quality than Cover 3d streams

>>2921514
>>2921533
seethe.

>>2921767
That was enough for the nijis to laugh at her and create memes. At that time the JKGumi were the ones dominating the scene. Tsukino Mito become the golden standard and later Hololive copied her formula and improved it.

39 second digest video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg-bxHo97wY

>>2918261
>47k

>>2921697
Oh man I remember this trainwreck. To be fair though this was produced by some shitter other party trying to shill VR headsets and it blew up. Ai-chans next proper LIVE would be a massive blow up.

>>2921847
I literally clapped when I saw the pink cat

>>2921143
Makes sense. 3/5 are autistic shut ins and the reapper has only ever performed in clubs to small audience but doesn't look like she has the energy for a concert like this. Bird is definitely the best option.

>>2921823
that's a fucking lie, nijisanji and JKgumi got popular in mid 2019 and then lose a lot of audience to .Live (Shiro company) that created the idol+streamer+vtuber concept, then .Live had legal problems and a big fucking yabe with sio VA, that end up with destroying their audience, then hololive just copied the .Live model with gamers and gen 3 and just got lucky.

Hololive before gamers was just Sora doing Idol stuff, Fubuki collabing with low tier vtubers, choco doing asmr and aqua leeching mea, the rest were unpopular as fuck.

So Moment House only has the VOD up for 22 hours and the thing's playing through an embedded Vimeo player.

>>2922164
Download it quick !

>>2922162
Nigger what? Shiro and Baacharu were around before Nijisanji but the rest of .Live didn't start until long after Nijisanji was already established. And indies like TenMaKiNin were already doing the Live2D streaming concept before either of them.

>>2922162
>nijisanji and JKgumi got popular in mid 2019
Nope, Mito become popular after her debut stream (the infamous washing machine stream) and then Deron and Rin followed suit. Their generation was big and exploded in popularity. It was common for them to be invited to the Nico Nico Douga events.

>>2922164
Yep and a chrome extension lets you download private vimeos

Did anyone catch the after party? Nyanners sounded like her little weeb heart was about to pop any second

>>2922387
Anyone who bought it can probably access the replay now and download it

>>2922261
>>2922291
Yeah, figured out how to do it with ytdl. Had to modify one of the URLs that was fetching the video.

>>2921469
Honestly I am looking at the threads when it happened now and it all seems really tame? Especially compared to what you would get now. There is a bit of shitposting here and there but nothing major.
>>/jp/thread/S20521549#p20528344
>>/jp/thread/S20529703
The vast majority of the criticism is being directed towards the incompetence of upd8 by people wanting to enjoy the stream. Doesn't really seem like something to hold a grudge about for years.

>>2922387
It was pretty great. Kizuna seemed like she was asking some really fucking honest questions, and I doubt anyone would be super prepared for that coming from someone on her level.

>>2922435
Keep watching the threads after that day. They never let it go

>>2922434
If you have access to the afterparty, can you post it somewhere after you download it?

>>2922438
What is it about Ai-chan that chokes up everyone else? Every time she collabs with any other chuuba they trip up all over themselves. Siro has a strong dominating personality but she's butter around Ai-chan, same with Luna. /jp/ was under the impression that HimeHina didn't like Ai but when she did her little radio show with them they were fangirling hard. Boys have an easier time chatting with her but even then there's this sort of reserved air of respect, which is weird if you're a long time Ai-fan and know what she's like.

>>2922435
How many of the people in that Nico Event is already retired?

>>2921867
That original "hello, world" concert was amazing. I loved the choreography, and both her "hello, world" outfit and the "A.I. Party!" birthday dress looked amazing.

>>2922268
nijisanji never was focused in the idol stuff, it was just streaming with low effort 2Dlive, if you want to talk about the first streamer and vtuber then is nekomatsu, but that's beside the point.

The concept of streamer+idol+vtuber was created by .Live, there was a group that was similar but it was just vtuber+idol and was enogu.

>>2922271
Only mito was popular in 2018 because of the washing machine or BL porn accident, and her popularity was in NND only, not in youtube.

JKgumi peak at early- mid 2019 with the concept of streamer + vtubers

>>2922532
That was one of the retorts back then. Virtually everyone from the really bad event is still alive and some of them got huge boosts out of it (particularly Kaf who exploded in like 10k subs in a day) while the nico event has tons of dead chuubas.

>>2921357
Imagine raping an unconscious Ai then right as your about to cum, she wakes up, full on heart eyes, licks her lips and leg locks your pelvis to make sure you don't pull out.

>>2922524
It's because she's the boss, the queen.

Everyone has a buttload of respect for her. She can sing, dance, she's funny and personable and talented and has a big personality. She absolutely dominates conversations- the only one to ever catch her up was Kaguya Luna, who is basically dead now.

>>2922435
>Meanwhile, any event Nijisanji organizes gets more views and attendance than K*zuna Ai
>the Ai-chan stream has 30k viewers
>the nico stream has 300k

>>2922524
Aichan is the "first" vtuber and basically defined the industry as it was back then. Its like a novelist getting to sit down with William Shakespeare or some shit, if you aren't starstruck you're probably a hack.

>>2922596
It seems Deron is still friends with Ai-chan after that event. She was invited to Among Us event with Siro and V-Shojo and they did very recently a merch collab.

https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1385936094055698432

>>2922633
it's good to remember that NND is a shit site, and it was worse back then, they just count every view as a viewer in a live, not the real amount of live viewers.

But it's true that the concert was shit and that was the start of the decline of kizuna ai, they started to shield her and never allowed her to collab with anyone beside luna, and was the time when they were pushing her really hard to become a tv celebrity, she even had her own tv show.

>>2922625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPnwZUMckE

>>2922524
Literally the Queen of Vtubers, so everyone respect and adore her.

>>2922748
>they started to shield her
That was their standard procedure, hence why she was absent during almost all the big events of the silver age of vtubers. It was until the end of the 4 Kizuna debacle and the creation of the Kizuna AI inc that they understood how important is to do collabs, but it's now too late.

that was really good, thanks to the kind anon who uploaded it for poorfags like me, though I thought it was weird how the colors were all blown out like that. still loved the music

>>2922748
To be fair the tv stuff is one of the reasons she's so popular in japan to the point where even normies who don't know vtubers know who she is. But I gree with the shielding point. Ai-chan was always thought as this "untouchable peek of vtubing" and it became self fulfilling prophecy, although her true decline came in the form of over management and the ever dreaded "clone ai" incident that lead to the nearly half a year long "sad ai" saga, where main Ai-chan suddenly started doing really sombre covers with depressing thumbnail art. Eventually that all got remedied and things are looking bright for the oyabun.

>>2922884
>thanks to the kind anon who uploaded it f
can the kind anon help me too?

>>2922936
sorry anon, i just checked and the video was removed. it was in the vshojo+ thread.

>>2922576
No one said Nijisanji were idols you fucking retard.

>>2922521
There doesn't seem to be a VOD for the after party part at the moment.

>>2922933
The Kizuna AI Inc era is a huge improvement over the missteps of Takeshi and Soejima. I still remember how arrogant Takeshi was by claiming "The brand is more important than the performer" (It was during the same event YAGOO said his infamous "Hololive aims to become the Virtual AKB48"

>>2923038
He is just making things up. 2018 was the year Nijisanji dominated the scene until the arrival of generation one of Hololive.

>>2923071
Thank you, I hope it shows up soon as there is a link that lets you pay for it.

>>2922878
>silver age
What do you call the golden age?

>>2922933
The whole tv stuff was fine when she was a guest or made specials, but the tv show was too much, the whole reason she got popular was because of youtube. The new CEO and the new direction they are taking is way better than before, I doubt that Ai will get as popular as back then, but she can become a franchise or a brand name.

>>2923038
You said that hololive copied the formula of nijisanji, that is wrong retard, nijisanji didn't even created anything, that's the reason no one give a fuck about them in the present is that, they were and will always be low effort streamers with 2Dlive that killed the novelty of being a vtuber by saturating the market.

Get fucked nijifag

>>2923157
The period between the Christmas Miracle until the debut of the JKGumi. The paradigm changed forever with Tsukino Mito's format of livestreams with a 2D model. Sse wasn't the first one doing it, because several indies and Yomeno Moemi did it as well, but she was the first one popularizing it.

>>2923157
You're getting dangerously close to 3d vs 2d faggotry.

>>2923251
Guess what? That's still the main debate. This is why Coco is so hated like Mito was back then.

>>2923251
I was the one that always shitted on 2Dlivers on the chuubas thread is /jp/, to this day i fucking hate 2Dlivers.

>>2923236
ok, you are based

>>2922576
>>2923157
Oh shit it's the actual 2D hater, haven't seen you in a long time. Welcome back.

>>2923347
Are you the infamous 2D Hater? What do you think of Hololive and their format?

>>2922936
Waiting for guys from /pmg/ to upload it. Seems there's been a bit of a delay but it'll get linked either here or the VShojo+ general (or both) when it's done. Apparently also some discord folks were going to rip it but since the VOD is still available for purchase for the next 20 or so hours they decided to hold off. Damn considerate of them.

But anyway it'll get linked when it's done. It was 65% two hours ago but no updates.

>>2923404
Not that guy but I'm personally of the mindset that 2d Livers are glorified commentary letsplayers. Low effort high reward, unwarranted, way, WAY they fuck too much dead time in between worthwhile bits. Why they haven't caught up to the western idea of releasing edited "highlight" clips is beyond me, that's one of the reasons nyanners is so successful on youtube and there's an obvious high demand for it if you look at "translator clippers" who basically do it for free.

>>2923507
>>2922936
Oop, I wasn't paying attention. It's already in the VShojo+ general:

>>2923223

>>2923157
>No you don't get it, Hololive and Nijisanji are completely different, Nijisanji is a group of streamers who use anime models to stream and call themselves virtual youtubers, and Hololive is a group of streamers who use anime models to stream and call themselves virtual youtubers, but none of that matters, what matters is that Hololive is idols and Nijisanji isn't

>>2923404
Hololive just copied the format of .Live, and filled their void, can't blame them for being low quality back then, after all Yagoo is a fucking moron that almost lose all his money in a fucking VR pingpong game.

They only got famous because of the clippers, the fun thing is that we got in a fucking circle, we started at 10 min videos of really good content to 3 hours of boring streams, and now we are back at 10 min clips of those streams because they don't want to hire a fucking editor, but somehow there are retards that do the editing for free.

About the 2Dlive concept, it's fucking stupid considering the amount of money they have at the moment, it was understandably until gen 4, because they weren't big back then, but now days they can just release 3D model with great quality like with sakura miko, but they just don't give a fuck and are as lazy as nijisanji, but not as bad as them at least.

>>2921143
Kiara has the lowest EN audience. She'd have a better chance of getting popular overseas collabing with Pekora

>>2923583
You're not responding to a hololive fan, retard.

>>2923624
Nijisanji is widely agreed to have the better 3D out of the two now though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7bNUCxo_r0

>>2923697
It doesn't really matter because 3d has become little more than a symbolic right of passage. A sort of "you're a successful project and warrant spending this money on". They have a little debut ceremony, get lots of easy money and then chuck that 3d body back into storage until the next extremely rare time they need it for a concert or for doing some collaboration with a 3d chuuba. It's a shame, a 3d body used to be a sign of become a fully fledged vtuber, now it's basically a trophy left to gather dust until you have a reason to show it off.

>>2923781
It isn't really like that anymore though with Nijisanji at least. Plenty of them use their 3D with a good degree of regularity for within company for random collaborations, 3D lives, the weekly 3D show or Niji3D.

>>2923105
OK, people in chat are saying there's not gonna be a VOD for the after party citing someone asking support about it. Luckily I recorded it when it was live.

https://www.filemail.com/d/qzlyudxrbglncno

>>2923628
She does have a lower live view audience, but I can see more Hololive fans willing to pay to see any Hololive EN collab on stage. Not as many as Gura and probably not Calli, but still plenty.

>>2924205
Thank you very much

real question. which one is better?
Kizuna Ai uses professional actors.
Holo and Niji dance and perform themselves.
The former is great as a show, but I think it's the latter that makes people emoi

>>2921143
>Kiara has the lowest average views per stream

Yeah, ok Nyanners.

>>2923404
After Sakura Miko got her new 3D model and after seeing just how damn high quality and expressive it is the 2D models seem like such a downgrade. I wish everybody could have a quality model like Miko.

>>2924671
>Kizuna Ai uses professional actors
Source? It's not like Ai's roommate is a secret (she outed herself after all) so we know how talented she is. She doesn't need to hire professional dancers.

So did this shake up the industry? It doesn't feel any different.

>>2924908
It proved that Western Vtubers can rise up from indies and hit the big time without needing to reset as a new character.

>>2924205
Absolutely based

>>2924781
Kizuna AI doesn't use professional dancers?
I know Nozomi publicly stated that she is the voice actor of Kizuna AI.
She often puts up dance movies on her tiktok account, and her dancing is very good.
I don't think she does it all by herself, but if she does, it's amazing.

>>2924205
What's up with the egg?

>>2925392
Egg's just there to translate for Ai.

>>2924205
>Do you have a question for Ai-chan?
>Uh.................................. W-Were you nervous too?
What a fucking dork.

>>2924908
needs a bigger exposure.

>>2923077
who the fuck is takeshi

>>2923104
you know generation one came like 5 months after nijisanji debuted righ

t>>2923781
Itt's not rare though, at lest with nijisanji. There's vtubers using the studio almost all weeks.

>>2925538
Are you comparing three hololive concerts? wut

>>2925654
>you know generation one came like 5 months after nijisanji debuted righ
Not him but Hololive didn't become particularly popular even in Japan until mid-late 2019.

>>2922524
She's the originator of vtubing. It's normal that quite a few respect her a lot to reach that point.

>>2922760
This is still the best vtuber video ever.

>>2925690
That I know. But the way he said made it like they got it with the first gen already.

>>2922524
Ya know how a lot of the holos in hololive become puddy in front of Sora no matter how domineering their personalities are? Ai is basically Sora on 10 tons of steroids and her influence covers the entire vtuber sphere and not just one agency. She is basically god in the vtuber world.

>>2925038
There's pros on her tiktok but all her concert dances are specifically danced by her because she needs to be able to sing and dance along if prompted. She's done it a couple times live just to show off, that's why Idol dances tend to be really simple and involve the hands more because bouncing around forces air out of your lungs.

Not like it's a problem for non-chan. Her stamina is legendary.

>>2925792
Basically this. It's actually funny seeing holofags on reddit talking like Sora is comparable to Kizuna when the influence is in a much different level.

>>2925943
Yeah, not trashing Sora since she is also an OG from that golden era (basically anything pre-2018) and she is influential in her own right. However the comparison isn't even close.

>>2918443
The Kizuna AI Company has exclusive deals with China and a partnership with billi.

>>2918443
2 and 4 look alright. 1 and 3 are straight up uncanny valley shit

>>2922435
Because you kinda don't understand the relationship. Ever since Nijisanji was just 3 members Aifags behavior almsot resembled chink antis. Since they were believing Nijisanji was "lowering the standard of vtubers" by using live2D and live streaming they were latching unto any controversy to shitpost. So it's only natural the fans would pay back in kind.

>>2918443
They set up the lighting for Ai's model, not Nyanners'.

>>2918429
Wouldn't that be like a vocaloid concert?

>>2927104
>believing Nijisanji was "lowering the standard of vtubers" by using live2D
were they wrong?

>>2927403
Depends on which one you prefer

>>2926710
That is a big mistake

>>2927403

I mean before Nijisanji, Vtubing was pretty expensive and required the ability to make and edit quality youtube content. That's why if the standards of vtubing weren't lowered (and they were lowered), it'd be dead by now

>>2927451
Thank god it's still alive today to bring us miracles of the universe like reddit meme reviews.

>>2927403
Yeah? Fan interaction turned out to be more popular than scripted content. Otherwise they would crash and burn

>>2927403
Pretty sure they'd still be a JP only weeb thing, at least until some american company noticed the possibilities.

>>2927547

Fuck imagine if there was no Niji, ho Hololive and no HoloEN, and American companies literally tried to start doing old-school Four Heavenly Kings style vtubing?

Maybe this isn't the worst timeline.

>>2927565
Nah, worst timeline is bugmen noticing and, as with many things, saying vtubers are a cultural legacy they gave the world and then you get your BUGGED vtubers everywhere.

>>2927403
It was livers who managed to stand the test of time.

>>2927607
Bugmen are one of the best things that happened to vtubing. Bilibili vtuber concerts are in a whole another level.

>>2928055
Technical-wise? Yeah, nobody can deny that.

>>2921531
Yeah I've been relistening to the vod and a lot of these remixes are way better than her original official versions on youtube. TeddyLoid tweeted out that these were entirely new remixes of “hello,world”,“meet you”, and“hello, alone” he made specifically for the concert. Also her cover of ME! ME! ME!

>>2928726
Teddy bows to the oyabun. Seriously he has to be a kizuner, he's been involved with a massive portion of her music career

>>2928916
DJs probably love all musicians since remixes are a big part of their job.

>>2925392
>>2925465
>>2925482
It was like at a job interview.
Ai and Egg interviewing Nyanners.
>nervous
I hope Ai's unabashed "no" will help Nyanners snap out of her stage fright.

Did Kizuna really have to mog nyanners in the post show like that?

>>2930079
Yes. Ai-chan is disgusted for having to collab with white trash.

>>2917757
>telling kizuna to collab with annoying orange
well, it didn't take long for nyanners to backstab her. I just didnt suspect she'd do it live in front of everybody.

>>2930079
nyanners was under no obligation to be docile as fuck

>>2930379
disappoint rather than backstab.

>>2925654
Please research further.

>>2918273
Does Love-chan still have a channel after Aipii quit? I remember it being pretty much dead for months

>>2925038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP4JZdXhKU

>>2927104
>Ever since Nijisanji was just 3 members Aifags behavior almsot resembled chink antis.
And now you want to rewrite history. The Nijifags were confrontational towards Ai-chan and now that she was "defeated", they turned their hate towards Hololive and in particular towards Coco.

>>2932316
Yes, it's now called Love-channel instead of Love-pii channel.
Her model gives off ara ara onee-san vibes but her voice doesn't. Kind of a waste to me.

>>2928055
Technically yes, Culturally hell no.

>>2930379
did she really? Holy shit.

>>2932507
And she is going to have a 3D Model
https://twitter.com/lovechan_lp/status/1386301465690476552

>>2932565
The orange or Kiara?

>>2921564
>when he pressed play on the mp3 file, i felt that

>>2921591
Cope, all they do is press play and move some knobs.

Time for some numbers faggots
>4.1k before the paywall appeared
>Dropped to 1.7k when paywall
Nice event, upd8 is a mistake and they keep ruining Kizuna with their retarded decissions.

>>2933003
>upd8 is a mistake and they keep ruining Kizuna with their retarded decissions.
upd8 is dead anon

>>2933003
hahahahahahaha A TOTAL SUCCESS, nyaggers is gonna blow up after this you seething 4chud incels, just wait and see

>>2933003
The numbers on yt don't count, the actual stream was not on YT.

>>2933110
next time, post shark to make your bait more credible

>>2919260
Interesting, I have the exact opposite feeling. I prefer being comfy than stuck in a crowd...

>>2933003
you're retarded, the concert was on a different site altogether
the only people on the youtube stream were poorfags and hatewatchers tuning in for 10 (ten) minutes

which was the best performance?

>>2939388
Of all Ai concerts? Hello 2020 probably. It was so fucking good, excellent production values, and an amazing after party. Seriously unforgettable.

>>2939388
She has several good performances. I liked her performance at the Porter Robinson festival

is the event worth watching or nah? how bout the "after party"?

>>2946557
Ignoring Nyanners, Ai always puts on a great performance. Teddyloid remixed a number of her songs for a more electronic theme and they worked really well. Even remixed some of his own songs (the first part of ME!ME!ME!) and it came off really well. Obviously Nyanfags / VShojofags get a bit more out of it because our Big Guy was there, but even for someone not a fan, Ai is genuinely a solid entertainer.

The after party was mostly Nyan spilling spaghetti being way too wooden and socially retarded around Ai, who was the ever the professional.

>>2946663
>Ai, who was the ever the professional.
I would expect nothing less of our based AI. You have me convinced. I will borrow a friends to check it out. Even perhaps the after sharty.

>>2932662
Kiara, obviously. There's no benefit in somehow "collabing" with an ugly, dead webseries/cartoon that isn't even a VTuber.

Kizuna will always be best of cute, best of butt, best of idol and best of chuuba

https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1386523343419936768

So they're looking into why people couldn't watch the archive of the after party.