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>>29088517kek
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>64,102: Okayu (Hololive)>54,267: Ema (VSPO)>50,902: Nui (Nijisanji)>46,884: Pekora (Hololive)>44,106: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>43,422: Suisei (Hololive)>42,597: Miko (Hololive)>40,629: Leos (Nijisanji)>34,684: Vesper (Holostars)>34,388: Axel (Holostars)>34,258: Subaru (Hololive)>27,803: Magni (Holostars)>25,806: Matsuri (Hololive)>24,460: Ange (Nijisanji)>22,585: Fubuki (Hololive)>21,880: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>20,725: Hal (Neo Porte)>20,132: Vox (Nijisanji)>19,881: Ars (Nijisanji)>18,599: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>18,480: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>17,158: Hololive English (Hololive)>16,754: Kobo (Hololive)>16,499: Nose (VSPO)>15,679: Chaika (Nijisanji)>15,139: Noel (Hololive)>13,925: Nagao (Nijisanji)>13,858: Botan (Hololive)>13,491: Met (774 Inc.)>13,348: Koyori (Hololive)>12,698: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,543: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,467: Tachibana (VSPO)>12,409: Iroha (Hololive)>12,184: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,735: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)>11,601: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,495: Polka (Hololive)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>11,056: Koyori (Hololive)>10,419: Gatchman (Indie)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)
I hope all of you newfags at least have graduate degrees in mathematics, this is a very scholarly thread
>>29088550Kek
>29088550based
>>29088517He might deserve some respect but Ogayu should be the OP's image so go fuck yourself.
very nice graph so far
>>29088550Based last post
>>29088637Sir, i'm 12...
NIJISIS NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>29088637I got B- at highschool, is that ok?
>>29088690What an amazing retention holy shit
Grandpa Noir doesn't know how to tweet at someone...
>he doesn't know how to tweet
>>29088749Vox-sama...
>>29088638Gato sexo
Local boomer figures out how twitter works live
>Nijisanji start Koshien>Hololive start spamming outfit reveals and 3D livesit's afraid
>>29088638
>>29088740ToT
>>29088690What kinda of fuckery is with YT anyway? Even with a new channel the graph still has these spike, meanwhile for the JP many are smooth as a table surface.
>>29088681okayu's was last op, piss off
>>29088484>more that it's debut week and you simply DON'T FUCK AROUND while it's still happeningExplain first post-debut stream being Zelda then
>>29088749Vox is going to seethe when he looks at the numbers
>>29088870Didn't they start Koshien earlier than usual this year
>>29088817>>29088793
OKAY LEWDS!
>>29088870
>nurushia sub10k>based boomer homo over 10kall is right with the world
>>29088870>Start Both of these thing will happen regardless of the competition so kys
Friend still watching granpaHoly shit what a timeline
>>29088900because it's not the channels, it's the viewers
GO NOIR GOOOOO
>>29088945They was afraid of Holo August...
>>29088945Yes
>1500 bump limit>10k on a homo stream>43 streams on the tallyYeah, CCVid is coming back. This was a monkey’s paw
>>29088916Management can't force them to play games they don't want to play. Regis is a massive zeldafag so maybe his enthusiasm would work and lockdown some women. However, letting 3 of them overlap each other for their first stream is fucking retarded and management should've moved one up by 2 hours at least.
>>29088998I mean, it's FoobsVesper is within her strike zone>Middle aged>Silver fox>GLASSESPoor Oga
What's this, a crossover episode?
ANYER
>>29088998well, you know... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihsr2X6VREw
>>29089050
ENTER DAGGER
>>29088871Don't forget the wave of comments that replied after the coward deleted.
>>29088871Chop chop anon!
>>29088793>>29088817
>>29089050NO HE'S GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MENHERA ATTACK
Okay. Be honest. You weren’t expecting 10k out of this did youBecause I sure as fuck didn’t and jesus this guy is seriously the real deal for zatsus
>>29088998It's almost 3AM in Japan, go to sleep fox
>>29088998Probably he looks like Mads Mikkelsen and Friend is grooming him
>>29089142Kiara bout to join
>he replied to Anya in japaneseyou can't make this shit up
>>29088916Maybe he is going to start homolusting after Link's cock for the fujo audience
If he can keep going for 15 more minutes, he might hit 11I think his mannies want him to end in 2 minutes though
>>29088870So afraid that it started referring to itself in the third person.
>>29088900Anon, learn.It's always been user-side that affects this, and for some godforsaken reason NA vtuber watchers get hit especially hard by this wave/sawtooth.
>>29089142Anon, Anya was present in UPROAR chat during debutID don't give shit about unicorn
>>29089230It started off really slow with all the yawning, but it's been alright after that
>>29089230He's not going to get 10k again, but I feel pretty good about this guy getting at least 2k for zatsus in the future.
>>29089313>He's not going to get 10k againAre you willing to bet some portion of your genitalia?
>>29089240He knows
>>29089230no I said 5k, and I now stand corrected
>>29089230I predicted 6k at most
>>29089240Anya is Japanese. Someone please post that Anya theory pic.
>>29089050About to mindbreak the actual numberfag
DAMN IT NOIR NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
it's already overholy shit
>>29088916How come Zelda isn't a buff game?I know that there's more than one but most of them are considered good right?
>>29089225Would he approve Korone?
>managers telling them to take it easyAAAAAAA FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>29089122Risu finally has her shot to steal Oga away for good. >>29089240Oh man, she's truly made it....Oh, also management is putting limits so they don't burn out in the first month since they're not sure of his streaming Stamina.
>>29089313betting your dick again?
>>29089122>Poor OgaOga unironically enjoys being cucked, he’ll be fine
Management doesn't want him to go over one hour to prevent burnout
>>29089230I predicted 7k since debut buff and europoor buff
As good as this is for cover, I kind of feel sad for Stars JP
MANAGEMENT HATE
>>29089461You want them to get back hort or to have their dogs die?
>>29089354>Am I willing to bet he's not going the get the same number he got for his very first stream? Yeah lol
>>29089461No, there's a difference between"make sure you're ACTUALLY okay going hard since you're not experienced at going long hours" vs"Nah man, just take it easy you don't need to grind at all"One is actually a concern for someone who isn't used to it, and the other is slacker mentality.
Council performance was really just management preventing them from burning out all along
>Daily EU time Zatsushes gonna incline...
>the reason why we barely have long en streams is because management prevents themFUCK EN MANAGEMENT
>>29089530Keked
>>29089527Anon, they're steadily incliningUyu Hatoful Boyfriend got 600-700 ccvGamma drawing stream got 1k
>>29089450She will be uncle's oshi and they would do collab>>29089401>also picrel
>managers telling them to not stream>ayame not stream>sana not stream
>>29089614And they still burn out lol. Look at Kronii.
So, how do you rate grandpa's zatsu ability? I think he's pretty good.
>>29089313Bet
>>29089614Alas, they should've gone HARD after that, but instead they just continued to take it easy.
>He wants to become a dedicated EU hours streamerInteresting
>>29089230they kinda doubled my expectationsI was on the 20k debut and 5k first stream
>>29089650He's gonna something for sure.
>>29089480Oga isn't getting cucked though. He is the one cucking Fubuki with Risu.
An hour passed already? wtf
>>29089614And yet Sana burned out.
How the fuck did we hit 1500 during EU hours???
>>29089354Not him but you really see a male getting 10k consistently for chatting? Is there any example of that or you think he's that big of a breakout hit?
>>29089050You're lucky Mysterio, Noir ended early today.
>>29089713Would fucking watch it again /10
>>29089690>UyuMembership opening and meme voice acting>GammaHe was drawing StarsENNeither are sustainable inclines.
I like that approach, 1h at the start is easier for him an easier to digest for VOD watchers, he will get his subs and some among them will be live viewers
>>29089713He is always been good. Zatsu is his main point
>>29089713Pretty good, a natural or likely honed speaker
mfw noir gained 4k subs this stream
>>29089658No, they are just terminal cases of being lazy or throat hort
>>29089730He KNOWS. Also there's space for at least 1-2 more streamers in that 11-2 timeslot that no-one else takes since Kiara's filtered so many potential viewers.
>>29089713This was him being sleepy and nervous because he just debuted, I can't even imagine how powerful he will be six months in.
>>29089313where's the wager?where's the fun?
RATE THE STREAM
>>29089776And in turn Fubuki is going to cuck him with Noir as retribution
>>29089527it should hopefully trickle down, especially if he does move into this slot since it might result in some of his viewers checking out the other homos who stream around//before now
>>29089793Sana's dog burned out
>>29089461the Sana manager rrat might be right
Okay, now that all is said and done...How do you think this will work out for him? I mean, EU hr debuff is gonna be a constant thing, unlike debut buff
>>29088638>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal22) Gwelu (Nijisanji) - 90,186 - 3D debut23) Luna (Hololive) - 52,218 - New outfit reveal24) Okayu (Hololive) - 64,102 - 3D live>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive10x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha1x: AZKi, Gwelu, Luna, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Okayu, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY131x: Hololive64x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER23x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Salome14x: Kuzuha13x: Miko9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Towa2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Luna, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>29089776>Cucking Foobsroru, rumao even
>>29089225>Vespa was an orc>Ojisan is ofthen being mistaken for an orcTHEY ARE!
altare hit 99k subs. should hit 100 soon.
>>29089799Nah, not consistently, but I sure wouldn't bet my glans that he'll never hit it again
>Magni is the princess of 4chan>Chinman is the princess of 5ch
I wonder if HomoEN's viewerbase will also spill over to HomoJPs like with the girls.
>>29089900If he owns it and makes the slot his own, he could incline after some drop-off.CONSISTENCY is king for this sort of thing.
>>29088638ぺこちゃんのお尻大好き!Everything should be fine the next time Pekora enters the Rust server, Matsuri gave her some gift and even drew a PekoHorse for her. She's gonna explode everything up before the reset though, how kino that will be, I wonder.I just got a warning for that too, what the hell Nijimeido?? >>29082393
>>29089730I want to believe it. Would be perfect for some chill content in the evenings(for me).
>>29089527Don't, of course it's hard seeing somebody mogging you on his first day after working so hard for 3 years, but this is the best that could have happened to themThey will draw attention from EOPs, inclining a bit and that incline will help them to grow in JP thanks to the snowball effect. It's what happened to the girls 2-3 years ago which led them to be as big as they are right now
>>29089930Nijisanji has this month already in the bag.
>>29089966who
>>29089966FUJO STRONG!
>>29089713it's fucking 1 am here but i'd say this is worth my time10/10
>>29089838Uproar’s membership opens tomorrow, not today. They’ll be doing another relay like they did for their monetization enabling streams. Uyu just played Hatoful Boyfriend and that’s it
>>29089713Kneel/10, unironically, that was comfy as heck. He's amazing at talking WITH chat
>>29089838>>Uyu>Membership opening and meme voice actingYou mean membership announcement?I don't see a join button on his channel
>>29089838>Membership openingIsn't it on 25?Are you a time traveler?
>>29089900If he delivers on the EU zatsu promise he will unironically have a 1k floor which is like top 3 in all of holostars.
>>29090026they already are, Gamna and Uyu both got a significant boost just by talking about them, and also Roberu's 2.5k earlier today
Ominous for chicken?
>>29089798Nobody wants to admit it, but EU runs this board.
>>29089900I find it weird that he himself wants to make EU a good streaming time, going against management advice. What does he want to prove though, why not just go for maximum potential or efficiency instead.
>>29089900Pros:+ Dedicated fanbase (2-3k), untapped market something somethingCon:+ No supachat for him
>>29089122The Oga x Risu song broke her. It was the final strawIt’s also why she’s been gambling for hours in Rust
>>29089930So assuming that Marine's 3D is going to get Gold, Holo still need another Gold to make it at least a draw, huh
>>29090106Am I crazy for thinking that none of these dudes will be below a 1k floor? I think they're going to completely throw conventional HoloStars wisdom out
How are 5ch reacting to his stream?
>>29090006>chinmanThere can only be one chinman, and it's the pedo onePetition to call him chindad instead
>>29090106>1k floor on EUThe lack of streams at this timeslot makes it really hard to not get decent numbers. Even Reine has 1.5k right now
>>29090138This guy has a 1000x better voice, Kiara might wanna avoid his timeslot.
funny thread.
lol Vesper passed Axel in subs.Axel needs to stream Apex asap.
>>29090106Yea.I don't think people understand that, at least from a numbers perspective, how utterly FUCKED Kiara is in terms of ability to pull an audience. Between shit content choices, poor personality and voice, she's managed to filter SO many people who'd love to watch someone in this timeslot. Not enough for 5-10k consistently I don't think, but he can definitely own this slot and get 1-2k, that much I can believe.
>>29090140>never watch streams>never donate>shitpost every daySEA-EU Alliance
>>29088517Iluna debut waiting roomshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5fJlz3MxTYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeP98_LYL-U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tON-9I6hXwk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvdpzduo4eQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeOS0CuF0FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgmvwsTzaaQ NijiEN subs growth in the first 24hrs>>28820131 Tempus Debuts streams and Collab>>29044551
>>29090201The femboy will be under 1k if he keep playing zelda and larping as a faggot
>>29090214He's Nowa OjiFuck off with your chinman bullshit
>>29089798 very few new threads got created for some reason, the previous thread lasted almost four hours
>>29090172Maybe he just doesn't want the stress of having to navigate the NA primetime slot, where you have monsters like Gura roaming around but also just in general tons of competitionI could totally see the appeal of trying to stake out some new territory
>>29090026Who knows but apparently all the stars got a 2-3k increase in subs ever since tempus got announced
>>29090138EU fans watching EU friendly stream, what a surprise
>>29090172Because that timeslot is free and I think he's confident of his abilities and he can own that one.
>>29090172He is /here/ and read all those begging posts from EUanons
>>29090138This is when her audience would normally be watching stuff, doesn't surprise me there's some overlap since she's not streaming. >>29090186Which would be weak, but let's be honest you DO need to BUILD an audience up before you can get them to SC you.
>>29090186I will personally superchat every single EU stream he puts out
>>29090006how's 5ch's general reaction to his stream just now
>>29090138This is Kiara's timeslot right? I wonder if she would be affected by this since she's trying to avoid them at all cost kek
>>29089739It's important to see the others now. Yesteday i saw a poll on redit and noir won by a landslide with something like half the votes and there weren't many stream to concurence him, and to the EU market who is desesperate for another EN streamer to complement Kiara.
>>29089713listened to the stream as I was eating dinner, he's honestly so good at telling stories and keeping conversations interesting, plus having a good voice and reading chat a lot goes far
>>29090138Yes, one of the main reasons people watch chicken is because she's the only available choice that's not JP (the JPs are Watame and Fubuki/Korone occasionally)
>>29090138What's this chart exactly? Identified chatters on similar channels?
>>29088517Final /news/ roundup for 24-07-2022>>29076596Recent Clip Numbers>>29059127 >>29059158 >>29059255 >>29059400
>>29090325>UproarProbably because of Kobo collabBut this is a good signal i guess
>>29090191Sana's graduation on the 31th is a candidate.Also I think the 26th was devoid of any of the "safe" niji golds. But there probably will be Koshien streams.
>>29090396List of chatters that chatted on other vtuber streams during a certain period of time
>>29090172If you look at tonight's timeslots, it's a fucking bloodbath. Altare and Axel at 10:00pm, Mori at 11:00pm. It's actually insane
>>29086525Honestly, depends on how he handles his streams.Salami became a one trick Pony and couldn't replicate her charm in other games, and she naturally reclined.Kobo started off at like 3-5k post-debut, and then inclined the fuck up among ID spaces.If Nowa-oji can't keep the interesting stuff going, he will get maybe 2-3 dedicated gachis.If he DOES keep being good though... we could unironically be looking at a 20k avg...
>>29090368All you need to know is that they have a thread about protecting his virginity.>Protecting Uncle Nowa virginity
>>29090236Even Matsuris unlisted is 2k
>>29090172EU times aside, we've seen in Koyori/Mio's case and in the 2 times Ame did Ame in the AM that short morning streams can work.You just gotta make it a routine and let people know it's happening.
>>29090191Pekora may end up going event mode again since she just hit 1.98m earlier and she decided to finally do the Minecraft TNT event stream(so she could literally sprint for it if she wants to). Also she have few collab promises.
>>29089230>Okay. Be honest. You weren’t expecting 10k out of this did youI thought 5k would be an overperformance.I also had it in the background and lasted the whole stream, no gay shit or antyhing
Holostar JP Today>no one under 500 ccv Uyu got 726 ccv in debuff game Gamma 1.3k ccv
>>29090325Wow, I haven't paid attention to stars sub count in a long time and Rad-Migo already passed Temma.
>>29090191Never forget the PeKorone gold that we got stolen
>>29090502*2-3k dedicated
>>29090477What's the yellow bar
Um.. bro, is youtube tryana tell me something?
>>29090053>5 golds from Pekora alone, 3 ahead of NijisanjiN-Nijisis, I...
>>29090498Any chance Gura streams?
>>29088690Where's the Z? Any mountains?
If Noir proves that EU primetime is actually a viable slot, would some of the other HoloEN's move there or is he going to own that space?
>>29088768You're overqualified sir.
>>29090172Is it weird when all of holoEN and homoEN are mandated to stream in PST? Why fight a bloody battle when you can settle on an uncontested timeslot with untapped growth potential?
>>29090026I think if there's a boost it'll be temporary. Most of the EN audience simply cannot speak Japanese, and it takes a particularly rare type of autist to sit and watch hours of streams in a language you can't even comprehendThey might get pity subs from new DDs brought in by StarsEN, but I think they'll be mostly dead subs.
>>29090502>If he DOES keep being good though... he can become Guraok cool it on the hopium
>>29090294Stop shilling
>>29090535that was a buff game for Uyu, he was playing the bird dating sim using his pet bird
>>29090593Probably, but she won't stream in that timeslot
>>29090508kek, the lack critical information
>>29090571>HERES HOW NIJI CAN STILL WIN>Get 2 gold unexpectedly stolen
FBK online.
>>29090572Yeah, you need to tone down that NijiEN gay shits
>>29089230After the debuts I did expect 10k. maybe not in this slot, but for their 2nd stream 10k is reasonable. 2 weeks ago no, I would have been happy with a 20k debut and 5k 2nd stream.
>>29090539Miyabi has been ahead of Temma for months now
>>29090254To be honest, at least she dares to just streams whatever she wants, even if it cause number problem. Imagine if being so scared of having shit number you resort to having jumping on trendy or popular contents all the time. While bringing good views probably not a good judge of one own popularity, at least she knows she is in the 4-5k park.
>>29090621I don't think many would move since they have dedicated audiences at current times
https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/1551267167286358016?s=21&t=5ttRw6K7Ajot2UO2i8krwA>All those replies>GIRLS GIRLS GIRLSD-did he unlock a new audience…
>>29090686wut?
>>29090593She said that she was going to during the Stray stream, so yea I expect a Gura stream at her usual timeslot today.
>>29090621No. HoloEN already have established NA audiences, the homos are a blank slate right now so they can take risks.
>>29090593Almost guaranteed, but it'll be on her usual timeslot
>>29090138Im KFP and hes complement, not a substitute
>>29090529I have no doubt she can pull good numbers for the Tnt-canon event, especially if there is little overlap. However, I don't see nijien debuts slipping.Unless they are now past their peak and people aren't interested in the branch, which I highly doubt.
>>29090686Kyori too.Miko tweeted good night, still is onlone in Rust.They are addicted.
>>29090567members of that channel
>>29090621Everyone is happy where they are except Bae who keeps randomly moving around for no reason. Maybe someone in EN3 will give it a shot.
>>29090502>20k avgI hate you falseflaggers so fucking much.
>>29090621Nah, there's maybe space for ONE more non-Kiara EN in the euro timeslot, and that would probably be best left for EN3 since the rest of the girls appear to have firmly established their slots in the evening for the most part.
>>29090686Miko, Fubuki and Koyori logged back into the server and started gambling, at fucking 3amthey don't need sleep
>>29082179and yet the gold entry isn't that high for a 3D.
>>29090572I also got a gay ad(literally) when clicking on Kronii's stream yesterday when an anon posted the link. Never got the ad before, never got it afterwards either.
>>29090026My biggest hope is that the EN stars will improve the Holostars brand enough for curious japs to give them a chance
>>29090254She felt for the "as long as you're having fun" meme..Personally, i really happy with Tempus mindset to always put the audience's entertainment first
>>29090686isn't it 3 or 4 AM in Nippon?
>>29090783Everyone wants a grandpa
>>29090630They might get nips that wanted to check out starsEN
How did Petra get 3k ccv for a mute piano stream
>>29090737>2 weeks agoMore like 2 days ago lmao
>>29090783Dude, I've been telling you.Husbando chasers. They exist, and NijiEN is too full of faggotry or fullout coombait to make it work.
>>29090783Fatherless behaviour..
>>29090466>signalAnon...
With ILUNA debuts today, how many LGBTQ+ jokes/mentions per streamer can you handle before skipping ?
>>29090783Women love daddy figures
>>29090902Hmm, might be a good strat. Cultivate the soil to prep it for a possible EN3 chuuba that streams during EU hrs
NOIR DOING VOX GOOD
>>29088517
>>29090502>20k avgStop slandering pops you fucking faggot
>>29090783there are a lot of lonely woman out there, anon, lots of them, usually fat or hot but above 30, they like anime dudes.
>>29090983>Husbando chasersIt's yumejoshiStop reinventing new term
I couldn't sit through more than 10 minutes of Vox or Mysta without dying from pure cringe. I just watched that entire Noir stream and didn't even realize an entire hour passed.
>>29090783Ojisan fuckers have existed for a long time now. Just look at Mousey and her love for old men like Aruran, Belmond, Oga, and Bobon
>>29091020I will skip all the debuts since I'm yuro and just look at vrabi and this thread for reactions
>>29090254She said Pekora was her oshi yet doesn’t seem to learn anything from her
>>29090841Only real chance of NijiEN debuts slipping is if Kuzuha plays Koshien and gets 80k again.
>>29088638group distribution (now with the number of streams)
>>29091043KEK
>>29090783Lots of daddy issues in that thread
>>29089527Why? It's not like their audiences overlap much. It's EOP vs. JOP.
>>29090186SC have very little to do with the size of your fanbase, or your streaming timezoneIE : Flare or Kiara
>>29088637sorry fag, I am a licensed engineer. I use math for actual problems and not for theoretical proofs
>>29090983I mean I'm a straight dude but I feel like he's someone I can go fishing with and just talk about random topics for hours on end.
>>29090653Finana play her fanmade game >1,278>857
>>29090621there is only 4 of them, i don't think they have to worry about ownership of slots just yet
>>29091134Now make one on the highest peak distribution per day
>>290909283 am
What's up with the holomem playing Rust lately, isn't it a 10 year old game or am I missing something?
>>29091020It looks like their debut program starts at 5pm PT, so I'll be watching the shark. But I'll keep an eye on the shitposting in case something particularly entertaining happens.
>>29090686GO TO SLEEP FOXU
>>29090627>eu time>growthru ru rumao
>>29091043Good one anontachi I rike it a lot!
>>29090908>isn't that high for a 3D.Anon, here is for a reference: that very amusing AkuShion 3D live from last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xL58zG9k5kwas in the approx same range (65096)For a SMOK variety show this stream SMASHED all expectations
>>29090138KFP were always clamoring for more chill zatsus but she rarely delivers that
Nice retweet FBK.
>>29089562wasn't this guy already a regular streamer before? idk why they need to baby him so much
>>29091020One joke. ONE. I've resolved myself to give them a fair chance and watch their debut but if they cross that line, they're dead to me.
>>29090593>Any chance Gura streams?She'll be reading superchats by the time the bloodbath is at its peak.
>>29091346lmao
>>29088517*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*>35,649: Noir (Hololive)>34,406: Axel (Hololive)>32,338: Magni (Hololive)>20,150: Vox (Nijisanji)>18,451: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,202: HoloEN Official (Hololive)>12,702: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,211: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)>7,477: Fauna (Hololive)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)5. Gura (Hololive) - 20,406 (Chatting stream)6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday Concert)8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,092 (RP ASMR)10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,424 (Youtubers Life 2)11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)12. Sana (Hololive) - 22,793 (Graduation Announcement)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Food Review)14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,552 (Some Chinese Bullshit)15. Fauna (Hololive) - 11,636 (Minecraft)16. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,001 (Dark Deception)17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (1st Anniversary Celebration)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy Review w/Mori and Sana)20. Ina (Hololive) - 12,561 (Minecraft)21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (VR Chat 3D model debut w/Sana, Kronii, Fauna, Baelz, and IRyS)22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (I'm Back return stream. Although he didn't go anywhere and has been streaming everyday. What a fucking weirdo.)23. Magni (Hololive) - 43,574 (Vtuber Debut)24. Noir (Hololive) - 35,649 (Vtuber Debut)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 17Nijisanji - 7Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Gura, Mumei3x: Mysta2x: Vox, Ina1x: Luca, Kiara, IRyS, Sana, Fauna, Kronii, Selen, Magni, Noir>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 29Gura: 23Vox: 20Mysta: 20Kiara: 15Ina: 15Luca: 12Mori: 10IRyS: 9Baelz: 8Kronii: 7Sana: 6Fauna: 6Magni: 6Amelia: 5Selen: 5Noir: 5Uki: 4Shu: 3Regis: 3Axel: 3Petra: 1Fulgur: 1
>>29091097I KNOW it's Yumejoshi, but do you think that a bunch of EOP on an EOP board will understand what the term even MEANS without explaining it using english terms?
>>29091398Fuck people who don't lurk or educate themselves.
>>29091162I know, it's just what that other anon said. You and your friends have been struggling to get 1k+ for years and then suddenly some new people join in and completely mog you in just a few days.
>>29090138Isn't it more omnious for him ? It's not like he want head to head with Kiara. He streamed when Kiara was on break, it's likely that if they went head to head, she would get the very large majority of her audience.
>>29091346Axel is trying to ride the Yagoo meme hard. But I dunno about making it such a big part of his streams. I wouldn't have made my fanbase name a yagoo joke if I were him
>>29091267It’s seeing a bit of a renaissance within the JP community. Holo is actually late to the party.
>>29091393>Hololive
>>29091103Guy seems chill, and has a fun/positive attitude enough to keep people interested in what he says.Was initially shocked they hired a guy with a lisp, but I stopped noticing it through this Stream, so I'm impressed how much my mind filtered it.
>>29088517*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*>35,649: Noir (Holostars)>34,406: Axel (Holostars)>32,614: Magni (Holostars)>20,150: Vox (Nijisanji)>18,451: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,202: Hololive English (Hololive)>16,899: Kobo (Hololive)>12,709: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,211: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)>8,142: Kobo (Hololive)>7,477: Fauna (Hololive)>5,653: Kobo (Hololive)>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)22. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 13,707 (Comeback)23. Magni (Holostars) - 43,574 (Debut)24. Noir (Holostars) - 35,649 (Debut)>GOLD PER COMPANYHolopro - 16Nijisanji – 7Others - 1>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Kobo, Mysta2x: Gura, Vox1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen; Magni, Noir
>>29091097>thinking that yumejoshi are lusting after oji-sans you're no any better
>>29091120There can be many layers to it though. I think Kiara is more a fan of Pekora than someone who respects a senior in a professional sense. There's also the possibility that the things she could pick up from Pekora wouldn't work for her. Pekora is a uniqum in many ways, perfect comedic tiiming, good bants with chat, always talking but almost never dull, perfect reactions, finding and following trends early or even creating trends sometime. Pekora has a natural talent for streaming. That's not something that you can just learn.
>>29091393Fuck off faggotStop stealing my broshi valour
>>29091267>jp streamers made a rust server>some holomens (Towa/Lapu) wanted to play in such server>management said no>they have their own server instead
>>29091441He doesn't need all of Kiara's audience, but Kiara very much does need all of Kiara's audience. Losing 10 or 20% to him would really hurt since her numbers are already so mediocre to begin with.
>>29091398Bruh, the fuck are you on about? That term's been used since forever and if newfags don't get it, that's on them, not us.
>>29091393Wiill the Homos ever get real gold? Not just consolation gold.
>>29091393Should use "holostars" for the entries for the day and "holopro" for the company tally count ala >>29091489
>>29091393>35,649: Noir (Hololive)>34,406: Axel (Hololive)>32,338: Magni (Hololive)>20,150: Vox (Nijisanji)>18,451: Uki (Nijisanji)>17,202: HoloEN Official (Hololive)>12,702: Vox (Nijisanji)>12,211: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,335: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,816: Selen (Nijisanji)>7,477: Fauna (Hololive)No wonder people watched the stars debuts if the EN girls don't stream
Come on Matsuri, kill that whore so Pekora can forgive you for your pettiness earlier.
>>29091517Newfag-chama
>>29089930is anyone besides pekora even trying anymore? aqua is retired and salome was an IPO scam and theyre tied in 2nd for the year?
>>29091571He need all the audience he can get. His number so far follow a worse trend than Noctyx one. They're good for holostars, but they're not looking to be HoloEN tier, not even the worse one.
>>29091571Why do you all think that the eu market can't grow? Even JP vtubing started from the bottom.
>>29091346https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1551260762353860608
>>29091446he's open to changing it if his fans suggest a better one iirc from his debut. the man seriously didn't invest in int and lacks creativity
>most influential continent
>>29090783Get out females....he is supposed to be literally me
>>29091517Anon, unironic ojisan fucker yumejoshis existhttps://twitter.com/b_c_aran/status/1458449379128393735
I can’t believe Reine is steadily holding 1.4K while playing Ace Attorney. The game is so mind numbingly boring.
MATSURI WON LOTTERY. now FBK and Miko are begging for scraps to gable more. This is not good.
>>29091656I mean Miko has WWE.
>>29090783he probably lucked into a combined audience of daddy issues zoomers and catladies
Wait......if Axel = Coco ? Holostar will boom like hololive 2020 ?
>>29091020I'm commited to giving a shot to the marionette girl and the blue hair girl at the very least.
>>29091587Personally doubt it, but I'd be curious to see demographics and donations once they get monetized, since I feel like the Stars are attracting a complete opposite audience from the NijiMales
>>29091684Maybe the EU market can, but Kiara probably can't. Been grinding for 2 years and she is what she is at this point. The few times she streams at later times she automatically gets better numbers even if it's not her normal audience.
>>29091755wow. I'm glad for Aruran for selling merch, but wow.
>>29091517Anon ~90% of women in all of human history have prefered partners older than themselves
>>29091755A-Arupapa?!!!
>>29091656Pekora biggest opponent right now is unironically her throat. It can only take so much and effort won’t cure it
>>29091134these dont look like vaginas anymore
>>29091755First time I see some pizza dad's gachikoi.
>>29091710>>29091446he already set up a poll for it, and so far it seems axelotls is winninghttps://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1551035153405063168?s=20&t=_EBJuuNV19VPC6ebvwrqYQ
>>29090287I feel like he will reign in SC
>>29091671He has a shot at beating the lowest ranked nijiEN girls. Wouldn't that be a hoot.
>>29091787That's how rust group gamba works anon.
>>29091813>blue hair girlanon...
>>29091754I love Reine but I skip maybe 75% of her content because it's so fucking dull. That month she played Elden Ring was like an oasis in the vast desert of boredom.
>>29091810I mean HolostarJP will have foreign viewer more . Yagoo....
>>29091739Get that sinking place out of here, at least use this one
>>29091020As soon as the brown girl refers to herself as Latinx, I'm bouncing.That's also the only one I will watch.
>>29091755Seems familiar... Quick, someone post that yumejos with multiple stacks of Kuzuha albums for comparison
>>29090287>Larping
>>29091587It's possible if somewhat unlikely. If they get a decent audience after all the debut frenzy wears off, and in a year or so from now have a concert or 3d debut, and they luck into a good day with very limited competition
>>29091810People overestimate Coco's role.
>>29091898Best to pick the one that isn't an old timey ethnic slur for Italians.
>>29091489>SILVER PER COMPANYHolopro - 18Nijsanji - 6Others - 0>SILVER PER STREAMER5x: Kobo3x: Gura2x: Vox, Luca, Mori, Baelz1x: Uki, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara, Regis, Axel>BRONZE PER COMPANYHolopro - 19Nijsanji - 5Others – 0>BRONZE PER STREAMER4x: Ina3x: Kobo, Mumei2x: Amelia, Kronii1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki, Fulgur, Magni>MEDAL COUNTMumei: 8 (4-1-3)Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)Mysta: 4 (3-1-0)Gura: 5 (2-3-0)Vox: 4 (2-2-0)Luca: 4 (1-2-1)IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)Ina: 5 (1-0-4)Kronii: 3 (1-0-2)Magni: 2 (1-0-1)Lily: 1 (1-0-0)Sana: 1 (1-0-0)Selen: 1 (1-0-0)Noir: 1 (1-0-0)Mori: 3 (0-2-1)Baelz: 2 (0-2-0)Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)Uki: 2 (0-1-1)Regis: 1 (0-1-0)Axel: 1 (0-1-0)Shu: 1 (0-0-1)Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)Moona: 1 (0-0-1)Petra: 1 (0-0-1)Fulgur: 1 (0-0-1)
Miko and FBK loosing all the time, Matsuri comes and wins big two times.
>>29091898>https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1551221480406777856axelotls won
>>29091876Isn't that why she is ditching jrpg streams for now and is focusing on making high viewer density streams instead? Basically the adinross strategy where the guy have high viewership but doesn't stream too long.
>>29091976Miko GTA vs Coco memeI think Coco win
>>29091877just for you anon
>>29092093kys tatsunocuck. why don't you go watch kson's friends talk about shooting part of their uterus into the toilet after pissing?
>>29091755might set a bad example but this pizza-loving-gachikoi should get 1 on1 dinner date with aruran of course he'd be on big screen with his avatar
>>29090138Kiara is probably the last person who will lose viewers to someone else EVER. If you can stomach Kiara, she's already who you're watching.
>>29091908Kyo Kaneko is a girl, right?
>You all now remember NijiEN didn’t get a single 10k stream outside of debut EVER before LuxiemCloser was Petra, 9.8k with the Mario Party feat. JP boys In my eyes the StarsEN already *not failed miserably*
>>29090172I mean if he is older he might just wanna do it like a day job and have the evening to spend with friends and family. I know some flesh streamers from NA that stream in EU time for that reason.
>>29092093Miko's the first one I saw, Korone 2nd. Coco is in there somewhere but I think 80% of the boom still happens even without her. Without Miko I think it's a radically different scenario even if it still ended up blowing up in another way.
>>29092165
>>29092160Kiara's core audience is people who want a needy virtual imaginary girlfriend to talk to them about stuff for 5 hours a day. I don't think grandpa golf n' fish necessarily has a huge overlap.
>>29092184Suddenly the flashback kicked in...
>>29089520I swear people just straight up forgot Kronii pulling 36k on her first post-debut stream just an hour or so later
>>29091810Yes, it's like going back to 2 years ago.Hololive 2019 Pekora 5K median2020 30K+
>>29092046They will gamble all night.
>>29092271Yea, the overlap would be the non-core KFP and peripheral audience that just tune in to ANYTHING in that timeslot.
>>29090138I'm surprised Kiara's percentage is only slightly higher than the others.This was the peak of Kiara's timeslot so KFP is free and bored because she isn't streaming. Meanwhile everyone else streams the earliest a few hours later so their fans specifically watched him outside of the times they usually watch streams...
>>29092160You sure? I watch her a lot but only because she's often literally the only person streaming, besides maybe Kaela. I don't dislike Kiara and won't watch the Homos over her but if anyone else streamed in that slot except Mori I'd probably watch them over her JRPG streams.
look at the VOD views on PekoMiComet damn that's a lot
Maybe Vesper is playing a REALLY long game. Think about it: by taking over a vacant timeslot he's much more likely to build his own viewerbase instead of overlapping the other guys or leeching from the girls.
>Holostars 4chan meme reviewImagine the numbers. Imagine.
>>29092165kyo obviously sounds like a fag anonchama...
>>29092281Stop comparing stars with holo metric you dumb faggot
>>29089235I wish Friend would groom me...
>>29092324Kiara's audience is smaller than most of the others. Gura's 2nd even though it's 7 hours outside her timezone just because her fanbase is so huge. For Kiara to be 1st it means a big % of them showed up.
>>29092285Hololive 2019 3 view 50% Gen 4 debut no one less than 2k
>>29092165Watch the teaser, it's not a girlhttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1549544615635628033
>>29092281>Gen 2 hype>FGO hype>Sex voice hype>Sex model hype>Roomate hype> 2nd incoming of Gooma hypeYou can only stack so much buff onto 1 Vtuber.
>>29092368I think it makes perfect sense. EU hours are fertile territory, no one has even made a serious attempt at colonizing them except Kiara and, while I like her well enough, she's super niche and not at all indicative of the potential for the slot
>>29092410Unless you're silver-haired ojisan, you're SOL
>>29092335Holy fuck 1M VOD incoming
>>29092312Anon the time he streamed is when Kiara usually ends or is winding down to do supas. Which is when her numbers go down to the core 3k she gets for that type of content. She isn't getting the general audience at that point.Please make your seething less obvious. Its fucking Kiara, no one expect big numbers from her but she has fairly consistent patterns even when overlap happens.
>even Pomu is getting more number than Fulgur
>>29091346Isn't he an actual gay faggot? Iirc from his debut stream, he used to crush on the EVA girls but he prefers picrel now or shit like that.
>1/4th debut retention on Europoor hours Yeah I'm thinking Axel, Magni, and Regis are all going to get above 10k today.
Does youtube allow a channel to see the stats of a specific subscriber/member? like the hours watched, the likes, the comments and stuff.
>>29092489or a shota
>>29092374No real Holo would ever collab with Pippa. HOWEVER, I think the Stars are gonna have to be more open to unconventional collab partners since 8/10 ENs won't give them them time of day. And IDs are kind of busy building their own ID box and can't always be available.
>>29090874Gura has a lot of members if even her EU chatters have a higher member count than the rest.
>>29092046>>29091787Where the fuck are you watching this?
>>29092215Asacoco make clipper and rabbit hole
>>29092638https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Q9BVhvXBw
>>29092638Matsuri unlisted stream.
>>29090138Ehh, not really. When shes not streaming that day at that time Vesper will take them for that day. Other than that hes a nice compliment for her fans to be honest, assuming they arent afraid of an older male who can hold a convo and go on tangents like she can.
>>29092638Matsuli's unlist streamYou can find it on her twitter
>>29092462It's Kyo the one that's an obnoxious faggot? Pretty sure he's the one that doxxed everyone too.
>>29092611I'll cut my dick off if they all get 5views. I'm predicting 9k for Magni, 7k for Regis, and 6k for Axel.
This really has wings
I'm going to bed, I pray for you poor souls who will be monitoring during the Niji debuts.
>>29092637OK so that was Gura members and regulars who were watching that 10 am zatsu for the Holostars grandpa? Yeah that's wild, Gura's fanbase really shows its massive size.
>>29092462Oh God. This is disheartening.And just to rub salt in the wound, Maria doesn't sound very good herself.
>>29092553About VOD, how long did it take Gura bday one to 1m anyway? Pekora one is 1 week now and still not 1m so Im curious.
>>29092764Altare dont look behind you...
Holostar JP next month >median 2k
>>29092755How many dicks do you have ?
>>29092764Regis is probably seething. God I hope management tells him to quit being a twink in group collabs.
>>29092572It's Pomu hours. She's kind of made this dead Kiara-adjacent spot her own, where Holo fans really have nothing to watch. I'm gonna laugh when Holostars start showing up on her chat overlap higher than the dudes from her own company here in a couple weeks.
>>29092554God I wish she would be winding down around this time.She usually winds down at around 10pm or 11pm and barely manages to not stream until after midnight.The recent Mario Bros. stream was an outlier, despite the memes most of her streams are not >50% SC reading (zatsus).
>>29092788Their song is already out and they're all sounds horribleIt's not even in the SOVL territory anymore
>>29092827He will cut it off in 3 parts, starting with the tip.
>>29092683it's a waste that this is unlistednumber is going up as they started gambling together
>>29092683>>29092687>>29092708>unlistedWhy..
>>29092788>Sexy latina model doesn't have a sexy latina accentfucking end my suffering
>>29092764>debut buff>fotm kanaria song>covered by a good singerThis will probably reach 500k in a month or so
>>29092755that's not enough
>>29092683Why unlisted?
>>29092861If it was a Holostars song you would call it SOVL. Fuck off tribalist.
>>29090906>they are all wet for vesperi believe it
>>29092922proof?
That rust yab is fucking nothingburger huh
>>29092709wait, one of them doxxed the rest?
>>29091755>>29091948Yeah, that looks really familiar with the one with Kuzuha. Do nip fujo / yumejo all rent the same love hotel room to take those photos?
>>29092898It was suppose to be a stream for matsuri to talk about the "drama" since she is a dumb menhara that can't help but bite stupid bait.
>>29092845But Fulgur has put something like "last stream before break" in his title.I thought that would boost his number but still get rekt by Pomu.
>>290929222 out of 4 holostars EN can sing, 0 out of 6 wave 6 can sing
That was the least popular homo. If he keeps his numbers and the others are on the same level they could replace the holos as the dominant ens
>>29092974NTA and I don't remember which one did, but yes, they did a Nene
>>29092974yep, did a nene
>>29090254>I don't think people understand that, at least from a numbers perspective, how utterly FUCKED Kiara is in terms of ability to pull an audienceYou keep saying that but when Kiara actually plays a buffgame(for her) only Youtube dying in eu and constant buffering issues stop her from getting 10k+ on Stray
>>29092974Their roommate twitter followed everyone elses roommates
>>29092987Sigh.. What is it now?
So how much did they pay in ads?
>>29092922Fuck off, the only SOVL stars song are PIZZA PASTAAfterall, they're aiming to be idols
>>29090783Looks like a lot of niji fangirls
>>29092971No fucking shit anon. Pekora literally just went to sleep and just threw the Minecraft event frame and everyone forgot about it already. Matsuri really didn't need to do all those shit.
>>29092987What "Drama" ?>??????
>>29092898It is just a gathering materials stream.Unlist it so number fags won't count its number to hurt her average CCV.
>>29092974They "accidently" doxxed themselves
>>29091837Anon the later streams are still at EU times.She just starts a lot of her streams at 3-4pm
>>29092806>>29092839what are you guys talking about, he's not doing that bad either
>>29093039Peko jokingly "accused" Matsuri of stream sniping her. Matsuri felt inclined enough to respond to that, although I'm not sure if that's part of the content or if she is just a menhera. Probably the latter.
>>29092987What drama
Is Rikka the best Stars singer?
>>29093039He's exaggerating. Antis tried to make drama because Pekora got a bit salty. Matsuri didn't like that she made Pekora frustrated, so she decided to gift her a present in-game
>>29093075holy shit why are their numbers always so fucking weird
>>29093075I'm gonna laugh so hard if they don't at least match Noctyx debuts
>>29092683and now they fucking play 4 men pokershould have been a 20k+ stream if she stream it normally
>>290930753 million, it would seemThey really want wave 6 to be a blowout
>>29091587Tempus casual outfits will, mark my words
>>29093127>>29093170>>29079369
>>29092850Her streams typically start at 3-4pm, have about 3 hours of gameplay then 1-2 hours of super chat reading. This only changes for her longer series but often those will start early as well. But usually she only has one of those on the go at a time. Winding down also doesn't mean reading supers, she tends to drop off a few hours in.
>>29093075Cost more than Ridonculus and Voltroons
It's kinda hard to see, but there's a little bump for Reine after Kobo ends
>>29093171Yes. He is very versatile, like sora. They can mash well with others in duets and the like
>>29090382Watame really dominates this slot. Need to hand it to the sheep the last two years weren't for nothing.
>>29092989>Fulgur has fewer viewers than Pomu>Vox has fewer viewers than NoirNot a good day for Manjisanji.
>>29093163It has about a 24 hour lead on release
>>29093284yeah but you guys talk like he's getting fucking burried or something
>>29092611With all the tourists watching niji debuts?
>>29093014>If he keeps his numbersAnon...
>>29093326>tourists watchingyou mean bots
>>29092160She already lost a bunch to Pomu. What's left might be dedicated, but it's small.
>>29093326ALL OUT WAR
>>29093169>>29093138Nahoone
i completely forgot about the nijien debuts. how did it go numberwise?
>>29093260Wait who's Ridonculous?
>>29092989Pomu's really inclined recently, she's getting 3700 just playing Mario Kart with fans.
>>29093320I literally just said dont look behind you. How do you get getting buried from that its more alluding to him being caught up to
>>29093380uh, anon they are in like, six hours
>>29093271It's much more obvious on reine's side.
>>29093390
>>29093326Reminder that Noctyx debuts were in SEA hours, not American. Something worth noting.
>>29093394Good for her.She is the only one I like in NijiEN.
>>29093380Dunno, but they suddenly got quiter on twitter after that one fujo tweet
>>29093075I laugh whenever I get niji ads. They're always shitty quality and I wonder what they expect to get from it.
>>29093423ah shit. fuck timezones
>>29093075Iluna teaser70,000/3,207,145 is a 2% like ratioStars debut PV19,000/222,298 is an 8% like ratioWeird huh, is it Nijisanji culture to not like stuff?
So, which Tempus member will do an orisong with Calli?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HWCMh1ZmzE
>>29093470Fuck /b/omu and fuck her " all out war" shit
>>29093450Noctyx are debut at NA prime time.Stop lying
https://youtu.be/ekwnJHHK_o0>Not even 1k waiting with 5 hours leftAltare and Mag had more people at this point. Is this going to flop that bad?
>>29093431Obviously, but it's still only a couple hundred.
>>29092971Wait and see the next Rust stream, if Pekora goes all out war then something really happened
>>29093369I don't think Kiara lost anyone to Pomu, she basically hands her audience off to Pomu around this time. As far as donors go...maybe, I see KFP donating to Pomu fairly often but they still have the KFP names so they aren't really *lost* to kiara.
You guys are going to watch Iluna later, right? They are going to get good numbers, which is what this thread desires, after all.
>>29093529>Fuck /b/omuYes
>>29093508Anon, youtube counts the ads as view but not likes
>>29093543Nice try Nijiturd
>>29093551the tourists need to drink their juice.
>>29093171Depends on who you ask but most people will say it’s either him, Astel, or Izuru
>>29093369>She already lost a bunch to Pomu.Source ? Kiara get 3K5 - 4K reading SC, her and Pomu aren't even close to be in the same range
>>29093573Fortunately I'll be asleep by then, enjoy though friend
>>29093394leaking nudes = incline, take note holoEN
>>29093551I assume their debut will do well. What they should be worried about is what their views will look like next week.
>>29093519The two that can sing.
>>29093551Chinese ladies are having their beauty sleeps. Wait another few hours
>>29093508At 4 times more likes i expect 160k debuts
>>29092755What are we even supposed to do with all of these dicks
>>29093573No I hate nijiniggers and trannies more than I like numbers
>>29093508View bots != Like bots. Riku couldn't pay extra for those
>>29093519The Mag
>>29092803Gura’s bday took 3 or 4 days to hit 1 million. Pekora is nowhere close to that pace and honestly, it shows that:1. 1M VODs really are insanely hard to get2. Gura really is a dominant force
>>29093606https://www.vstats.jp/leaderboard/2022-02-27
>>29093551Don't worry, the waiting room will be low for hours and when the start is about the start 40k+ people wii appear out of nowhere
>>29093551Never underestimate the power of japanese tourists
>>29093616The thing with Kiara is that she can hit 8-10k+ if she plays buff content even during Euro hours.3-4k is Pomu's max.
>>29093551>official channelI'd watch the first one to debut, which I think is the doll girl? Should start ramping up the closer we get.
>>29093656>SJW coomer troons will get holoX tier debutsoh i am laffin
>>29093075Despite having more subs, their teasers couldn't beat Regis or Axel (the numbers didn't change much since their debuts)
>>29088517now this matsuri stream where they're just fucking around. this truly feels like old school holo home. No 'pro wrestling', just fun game gambling and emote spam
>>29093573I like numbers, but I'm also prone to getting filtered and Nijisanji filters me more than Vshoujo.
>>29093574If they're SCing other people are they really solid core viewers that you can expect to never leave? People only have so much time and money anyway.
>>29093722Yes
>>29093551eh mag had the meme magic build up a lot of excitement and chat spam. I'm predicting similar numbers. Whether that is a success or not I don't know. Tempus have clearly exceeded those with low expectations, but if you believed EN would be different they're fairly in line. What were Noctxy numbers? Also I've given up learning to spell niji wave names and just guessing now
>>29093551So what is anon's guessing about their number?
>>29093573I watch all debuts but I'm skeptical I'll watch any of them normally since Pomu is the only Niji I bother with.
>>29093704>japanese tourists>9 AM JST>FUCKING MONDAYRetard
He got 20k in NA prime time, why is he doing worse in SEA time?
>>29093573I will not be watching the Niji debuts since I don't give a fuck about Niji.
>>29093551No, Niji is tourist central, every event will guarantee big numbers. But the fun part is will they cannibal their Senpai 's viewerbase or not
>>29093765Noctxy highest was Alban with 60k+. If the new wave get less than that its fucking over for them
>>29093753>you can expect to never leavegetting desperate here
>>29093704Niji is aiming NA this time anon.
>>29089230They got 40k debuts and first post debut streams are always a massive buff. They won't keep 10k for sure.
>laugh at these failures tier>they could have done better tier>about what I expected tier>Holy fucking shit I kneel tier>Viewfarm tierAssign a value for each tier for Iluna debuts.
>>29092445That isn't how these numbers work anon
>>29093573i will be asleepit's getting late herebut i will try and catch up on some VODs
Now that it has been confirmed that management interferes with the schedule and the length of the streams can we claim that this is the cause of the Council's failure?
>>29093722A SEA sjw even
>>29093551How are they going to debut? All 6 of them today in 30min relay?
>>29093848Maybe fujos made sure to show up because he was overlapping debuts?
>>29090783I always thought there was true potential for the dadtuber demographic
we should all laugh at kson for kanata ditching her to leech from ado instead
>>29089050>Day 1 debut buff couldn't beat MisteryoDead on arrival
>>29093848Inside drama
>>29093938Didn't people say there is a 2M subs youtuber join niji as wave6 few days ago?
>>2909393820k40k60k80k100k
>>29093978Yes
>>29093956Fuck off Fulgur
>>29093999NijiJP has a dozen of those. But anyways, they won't be keeping 10k for future streams. If they can hold 3-5k it's going to be a massive win.
>>29088517will this matsuri stream get clipped?
>>29093938>laugh at these failures tierBlue tranny>they could have done better tierThe other blue faggot>about what I expected tierThe horny dude>Holy fucking shit I kneel tierroru>Viewfarm tierlatina whore, doll onahole, viet bitch
>>29093883>Kiara is probably the last person who will lose viewers to someone else EVER.Good luck.
>>29093956They are partly to blame, the lack of streams and laziness of the talents doesn't help either
>>29094020It's okay, at least it got this >>29091043
>>29093938sub 30k40k60k80k100k+
>>29093938>laugh at these failures tier<29k>they could have done better tier30k-49k>about what I expected tier50-79k>Holy fucking shit I kneel tier80k-90k>Viewfarm tier91k+
Its been barely over a year since nijiEN entered the market and theyre going to be at 26 members
>>29094036Inside what?His anus?
>>29094180hayai
>>29094059Yes but that faggot is only worth is because of his wife.
>>29093573Sorry corpo slave for nips here. They debut at 9AM JST and I have a lot of paper work to do. So yeah gonna watch Vrabi instead
>>29094078>most hyped ones are last in case the shota kills viewership
>Miko and Matsuri talking shit about management on unlisted streamUhmmmmm holobrossss???!??
>>29093733But that's not how rust supposed to be played
>>29093573I'll watch Maria so I can get fuel for the inevitable Roseschizo threads
>>29094189Sabotage from the inside. Check yesterday archive
>>29093573>watching nijiniggersroru
>>29094180Imagine all the drama that goes on behind the scenes with the sluts and faggots fighting for views and management priority
>>29094180They want to use the same tactic like they did in Japan.Flood the vtuber market with their own vtubers to starve others to death.
>>290941681 up from me
>>29094294>>29088967
>>29094180It is Niji after all.
>>29093039matsuri offered her some 馬田ぱこら fanart as well, it's bound to be a yab...
>>2909418052 members by year 2...At some point it's hard to pretend to be a family.
>>29094242Which one is him?
>>29094294Truly hololive end game
>>29094078Entertainment factory
>>29089448I think people confuse "multi-stream games debuff" for "zelda games are debuff". Unless you're really good, none of the Zelda games are single-stream games.
Why have these threads become so fixated and obsessed with the Holo vs. Niji dynamic at the cost of any kind of serious evaluation of the trends of small corpos or Vshojo?I know there's an occasional anon here or there who will touch on them, but 99% of the threads nowadays is just inane bickering between the big two.
>>29094180Kek forget outspeeding HoloEN, they're outspeeding HoloJP. And it won't stop.
>>29094387>ASMR gamingYeah 6k at best
How can we save her?
>>29094437The horny dudeAnd he's not married yet
>>29094454That's just the nature of the board, most posters are holofags, then you have a bunch of nijifags, and then the small corpo and indie fans don't really come too this thread, preferring to stay in their threads.
>>29094387Mori you better not lose
>>29094387Gonna get a lot of MAGGED shitposting when he beats her with the debut buff.
>>29094437Box clone
>>29094523The glasses one?
>>29094354I bet it fosters vicious internal rivalries. But management might like it that way. In some ways it's an advantage if your talents feel their situation is precarious, I guess. Worried you could lose your fans to the new girl that drops every 3 months? Well better stream harder!
>>29094505>6 hoursWhat is she doing now? Reacting to r/Formula1 posts?
>>29094505Live vibrator stream
>>29089799If anyone could do it, it will be Vesper. Zatsu is unironically going to be a buff for him
>>29094555Well this already happened to kiara today. He will also beat half of council with his ccv but people won't care because schizos hate mori
>>29094505AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Do you think Ex Navy/Soldier Vtuber will sale???
>>29094387>niji and moriWonder if his debut buff can save him
>>29093551We have seen time and time again waiting room dont mean shit for NijiEN events. Viewers just appear out of thin air.
>>29094592Are we talking about Iluna? Because the only glasses one are the viet bitch
>>29094505She's not even doing F1 anymore, self-debuff. I can't tell who she's playing with though. Viewers?
NGMI
>>29094692AHAHAHAH
>>29094454Hololive is extremely dominant and Nijisanji is their only real rival with a chance of winning battles against them. So for the horseracing part, that's where all the fun is. In the quieter hours of this thread (when we aren't having major industry happenings like this week), we get interesting discussion about topics like Isegye and stuff sometimes.
>>29094692jesas
>>29094131>cherrypicking a deflated stream 6 hours in that included a napNow this is desperation
>>29094505This will be Holostars EN in a few months
>>29094180
>>29094505Honest question, since I don't pay attention all too much to NijiJP: what is the long-term outcome for the Niji streamers who get left behind as more and more waves are added?
>>29094692THE ERA OF THE STARS IS HERE
>>29094757Anon, these waiting rooms are meaningless. Nijitourists materialize out of thin air.
>>29094750Her secret valorant discord group
>>29094699>Ex Navy/SoldierJust imagine if nijien has a US soldier vtuber what will their Chinese market react kek.
>>2909393820k30k40k60k80k
>>29094757Bots don't use the waiting room
>>29094454Just the nature of the beast. Hololive is basically the center of the vtubing world and it's not an exaggeration to say that vtubing is currently divided into Hololive vs Not-hololive. The fact that you have startups unironically marketing themselves as either anti-hololive (akioair) or Hololive inspired (Isegye) attest to that. It just so happens that Nijisanji is the biggest stick that most anti hololive viewers can wave, but they themselves don't mind using other companies (VShoujo) if it caters to their needs. If NotRushia was actually averaging her normal rushia level CCV (15k+) you'd see more vshoujo fags shitting up the thread like they did when they thought they had something by hiring a bunch of exholos.
>>29094454Lux created a general shitstorm and were used as a Niji is back sort of thing. The fans were annoying enough to do lasting damage, then shitposters got involved to play both sides. Desuwa had a similar effect. All mixed in with youtube shitting itself and possible yet unverifiable botting.Now things have evened out to normal Holo on top. But you still got retards who like the shitposting part the most, not that shitposting wasn't always common it was just secondary. So now we get people desperate for a fight. Niji vs Holo, EN vs JP, whoever the tard hates vs anyone.
>>29094705>nijiNow this is derangement lmao
>>29094857NothingThey'll be forgotten and abandoned, just like exIDIt's capitalism baby, if you're not making money then you're useless in the eye of Riku
>>29093938>10K>less than 40k>60k>80-100k>anything significantly above that
>>29094729Yeah I though he is a male so no?
>>29094361Starve others of viewers if they're good enough maybe, but even niji can't save all the 2views. Probably not even all the 3views
>>29094966>The fact that you have startups unironically marketing themselves as either anti-hololive (akioair) or Hololive inspired (Isegye) attest to thatwhich company is doing better out of those two, btw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puvpOmoqZYCripple gold for the day
>>29094947You really expect NijiEN to only get 40 fucking k viewers? MAYBE the two traps and the gay bitch but Scarle and Ren are 70k easy.
Gura joins the overlap war
>>29094505Is it normal for a chat to be this green?
>>29094857forgotten and abandoned, leading to either or both of graduation and suicide. It's a harsh world in Japan and they do not rate failures.
>>29093573I don't watch ENsharts, Fujosis. I certainly won't stay up late for your fags and whores.
>151 IPWho are you people?
>>29095088When only your core audience is watching, yeah
>>29094857They hang around forever at 1-2k. Most don't graduate. Most of the people who graduate seem to be the more ambitious sorts that are sick of whatever issue they have with Niji and want to move on with their careers.
>>29095044They arent even trying to save 2-3views given who they brought onboard for wave6.
>>29095134all me
>>29095134All bots
I can't wait for niji en to debut just to shut the holofags in this thread up. This past week tribalfags have been at it's all time worst since the discord leak. We all know nijisanji en going to win the debut the fact people are trying to make this shit an competition at all is pathetic. Instead of being proud that stars are not dead on arrival they have to talk some shit about nijisanji when in the end niji going to win. Also to the person who comparing waiting room just cause we nijisanji livers don't have people slabbing at their computer for debut because unlike holofans actually have lives to live. We wait and join later on when getting ready to happend.
>>29095088have you seen watame's chat anon?
>>29094976>>29095108How often do they end up reincarnating either with a different corpo or as indies? Or do they just stick it out until they decide it's time to finally call it quits?
>>29095065All out war motherfuckers.
>>29095063>Akioair>Bunch of 2-3 view shitters>Isegye idol>Literally beating the shit out of VShoujo on almost a daily basis.I dunno anon, you tell me.
>>29095002Does this looks like a male to you?
Is this homofever going to blow over when EN3 gets announced or will you still be gay then
>>29093573Nah, Im good on the highschool social clique bullshit Nijisanji pulls with their alcohol poisoned livers. Yeah, Im totally interested in the group that has actual trannies and faggots putting them on a pedestal for having a """guy""" that has the nonbinary flag as colors for his scheme. Maybe that one grey girl but shes definitely going to be underwater after a week if he has a shit personality, the wetbacktuber is definitely DOA, dont argue about it with me. Zot, Zotto, Zottranny? He seems alright though.
>>29095134discord trannies
>>29095134/#/ will be in a state of constant glowing for the next month or so.
>>29095063Hahahahahahahahahajajajajaja oh anon im a laughin.. Isegye rules the twitch vtubing horserace (they have their own box iirc). Akioair might as well be air.
damn matsufubu collab is so comfy, reminds me of 2019 era..
>>29094601It is a good and risky strategy, but Westerners are not used to the extreme work culture of the Japanese. This can end in suicides or attacks against co-workers or management
>>29095200So, bots?
>>29095200calm down, nijinig. it's only anime streamers.
>>29094454In addition to what the others have said, you can blame this for kicking the tribal bullshit into overdrive. Seriously prior to this most of the bullshit was flung by the nijiniggers trying to pick fights with holofags, after this you have holofags deliberately scouring niji streams for shit to burn them for
>>29095200Not a single person in this entire thread believes that they will have lower debut numbers than a fucking Stars debut. Of course they're going to be higher; if they weren't, it'd be such an abject failure on Niji's behalf that it'd be paraded in these threads for months if not years.
>>29094505Why would I want to save someone who unironically thinks that trap is a slur?
>>29095263I feel bad for the bird in Akioair, she seems like a huge holofan but her corp left a bad first impression for any hololive viewer who might have given her a shot.
>>29095044
>>2909506530k+I don't really think Gura's "fuck yous" to Nijisanji debuts are intentional, but I'd kneel if the cutesy shut-in shark had such a vicious side
>>29095271Depends on if any of them will stream at EU times. If it’s more NA prime time girls then I’ll be full on homo with my new boomer daddy
>shark overlaps homos the moment management allows itbased. even debut buffed, that will cut a chunk of their numbers and we get to see a glimpse of their real floors.
>>29095326God if only it were possible to meet in the middle of niji and holo en strategies and have chuubas with a healthy amountof motivation. IF ONLY
>>29095381I think it's possible the first girl clocks in lower than the highest Stars peak. Once they get the raids going (if they function correctly, big if) they should stay above it.
>>29095264I'm not a biologist. I am not qualified to answer that question.
>>29094361Shits not gonna work. As Tempus has alerady shown, you can still get good chuubas from the 2view shitpile if you have a really good eye. And Cover's scouting team is the best in the business when it comes to digging out possible diamonds from mountains of shit. Makes me a little more hopeful for EN3.
>>290950655ch's mansan on suicide watch
Serious question: Outside of CCV to judge, do people actually have any other data/signs/events to supposedly gauge whether a branch is inclining or declining? Since Im curious about those "EN is declining" posts, but also want to know outside of their CCV, are there other signs that they decline? Lack of sponsorship or worse merchs (switching to generic keychain or arc stand), perhaps?
>>29095449is she? the homos are starting 2 hours later
>>29095065>Ina -> Gura -> MoriPretty good funnel with 3 hour gaps between them which is around how long Ina and Gura stream.
>>29094655It was a glorified restream of a concert that is still available on her channel. Honestly I am positively surprised she managed to hit 4k with that.
>>29094976Hololive is capitalism as well yet doesn't have the same issue.
>>29095446I doubt Gura gives a shit but I wouldn't be shocked if one of her managers didn't tell her "hey take it as easy as you want for a while, you deserve it, but it'd be nice if you could stream something fun on the 24th at your usual time".
>>29095402Who? Even, what company never even heard of it...
>>29095446They are absolutely intentional and it'd be naive to believe they aren't. It's one of the things I really enjoy about her.
>>29089230Fucking Ollie got less on her first normal stream.
>>29095355I firmly believe that if it wasn't for that screenshot,PomuTori would have been a reality two months ago
>>29095449Retard, Regis and Axel starts at 11 AM JST
>>29095449is her timeslot after all no way she will change that
>>29095538The meme review one was extra brutal. God I love Gura.
>>29095541SC/CCV/VOD are the three easiest things to measure. Sponsorships are a small and inconsistent data set, and merch numbers are often not even possible to obtain.
>>29095355I'm honestly relieved that Vox didn't make it into Holostars, I can see why they turned him down after these dudes debuted.
>>29093573Spaniard here, I will sleep through it
>>29095613>Pays their talent monthly salary>Every talent get their own fair share of attention, including sponsorship and personalized merch>Yes, even starsDunno, seems like socialism to me
>>29095065ALL OUT WAR
>>29095225Are you implying her fans forcibly conscript new members into membership?
>>29094555Not only debut buff but also drawing stream buff.
>>29095745Wasn't it shu that wanted into holostars?
>>29095745It honestly is a shame that the guys like Vox really do taint the pool for everyone. Just goes to show how a single person can completely change the tone and perception of a wave/gen.
>>29095778welcome to membersheep!
>>29095200Yeah, I'll talk major shit about you Nijicopers. It's not that hard to do and you retards respond irrationally unironically. I want them all to do well, but this New NijiWave smells of major cope on their side. The fact Fulgur and even Vox, VOX, couldn't outpace Vesper at a debuff timeslot is embarrassing for Niji and they need to learn to pick up actual talented people instead of getting 24/7 dramabaiting retards.
>>29095778>Membersheep giftYes they are
TBF NIjisanji's new wave not winning the debut would be embarrassing.
>>29091810Times have changed anon.Coco was at a time when EN speaking talents and crude jokes were an EXCEPTION and a CONTRAST to regular chuubas.Now theres infinite number of EN 2views, crude jokes are the norm, so you're far more likely to be successful by just being a normal chuuba.Which is why Nowa-oji stocks are so high.
>>29095770Do the big ones suffer to make the little ones prosper?No? Then it's not socialism.
>>29095745He didn't apply, unless he did it stupidly for regular Hololive like Shu did. Luxiem was recruited before Holostars for real auditions were started.
>>29095541If we go by merch they're only going up, but so are all the other holos. No one has ever switched to generic shit. Sponsorships are a retarded metric since they require the women to accept them. You might say>b-but why would they deny free moneyBecause HoloEN. Even so they are just ramping up the profile of sponsorships to doing collabs with games, cafes, cons etc instead of "buy raid gacha legends" only.
>>29093956they didn't fail though
>>29095264There are 3 males but 2 of them are basically female designs
>>29095065First funnel to holobros and Magni will catch most of it I
>>29095844Dramabaiting is unironically the single fastest way to grow your audience beyond niche groups and will always be a path to success so long as you don't go so far that you implode your channel with it.
>>29095891Spoken like a true burger
>>29095632There's an owl. Her PL was an owl who did a song that got featured by haachama during avant garde phase. Good voice. Something like that.Akioair left a bad taste in my mouth though ngl.
>>29095662This is why it pays to be professional and courteous even when you think people absolutely couldn't be watching. Having a channel where they rant about their competition is just retarded, I would absolutely never participate in such discussions if I was a NijiEN. You never know who you're going to want to collab with, do business with, or even join in the future.
>>29095824I kinda feel bad for Shu because I could see him working a lot more with Tempus' dynamic.
>>29095950What burger?Asperger?
>>29095088>>29095225umaihttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/jwi0GyTiLEchttps://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/channel/UCqm3BQLlJfvkTsX_hvm0UmA.html
>>29095778Can't remember if it was yesterday but I summed up all the gifted memberships + normal memberships sign ups for Watame and Pekora this month. 3k something for Watame and 5k for pekora. Only reason she's so far ahead is because she got like 2k members during her birthday stream.Both watamates and nousagi are deliberately going for gifted memberships over sc.
>>29095950As opposed to a bug.
>>29095613Well, unlike Nijisanji, Hololive has a little weapon called "Holobox"
>>29092093As someone who used to visit /v/, I can tell you that the only vtubers I remember from back then are Kizuna Ai, Miko and Korone, but I had no idea that Coco even existed.
>>29095538This is honestly what makes me think nijis are deluded.>AIEEE SHE STREAMED METROID DREAD IN OUR DEBUT>OH NO A COLLAB ON A SATURDAY>NOOO NOT THE FOTM GAMELike, meme review and fishtank i understand. But "buff stream on weekend in the exact timeslot she always streams in" isn't targeted like, at all. Just...don't debut in Gura's timeslot. This is honestly nothing like rushing your next gen to steal thunder form fucking holostars.
>>29095953ah, was that the girl that did the rap that broken the line?
>>29095923Fails in comparison to HoloMyth, not against NijiEN
>>29096034>Bug>SocialismAgain, spoken like a true white-red-blue burger
>>29096043Dumb headcanon
>>29095971Shu's a complete bore though, he would have been a waste of a spot. If they debuted 5 people he'd be ok as filler. Alban probably would have been better overall if you had to pick one of Noctyx/Luxiem for the spot.
>>29095632Athena, she has done a real good piano cover of one of Suisei's songs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9yaC98Ka4&list=PLXETyUhZ2rJSlVsQiwe687O6PMiQa-kV9&index=7
>>29095968Can you imagine the amount of damage one retard in a group like that could do if they wanted to? You keep it professional in semi-open spaces unless you want to pay the price.
>>29095971>feeling bad for an almost 5viewHe's part of a successful gen and did fine. If he cared that much he would have waited.
>>29094757Not gonna mag it indeed.
>>29096043Nijisanji also has box
>>29096028Watame had more memberships than Pekora. It was mid 5000s or so it was someone else that was in the 3000s, but I didn't save the image.
>>29096028Watame got 5229 gifts in June too
>>29095449It's her slot, none of the homos are dumb enough to encroach on it, to be honest no one is besides maybe Bae.
>>29096141He's also been a pathetic Elira simp for years so he still gets to hang around her.
>>29092989Fulgur specifically did this stream to overlap Nowa-oji.I checked every single one of his streams. There was ONE stream that started at this slot, and that was a fucking collab.This is Fulgur's first EVER Stream at this timeslot.Considering Selen basically admitted that they're competing among themselves and that timeslots etc. are "strategic", it's very likely that this was a deliberate move.
>>29096223nah, not when I counted. but that can have changed the last couple of days.
>>29096099reality hurts, I know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puvpOmoqZYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puvpOmoqZYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puvpOmoqZY
>>29095538This is one of things that made me hate Hololive.They were so desperate to camp the EN market after their dying dead Market in China, courtesy of Coco
>>290960913/5 of them are among the top holoen don't see how that is a failure
>>29096320Maybe I was thinking of June.
>>29096028I get a real mischievous vibe from those two fanbases
>>29096328as is tradition
>>29096348Get magged zhang
>>29096138Seriously, better hope they never have a disgruntled talent who might want to make a big twitter thread with receipts of all the stupid stuff they've said! Does the company NDA cover the unofficial talent ranting Discord?So much easier to just chill the fuck out and keep it professional. This isn't high school, it's show business.
>>29095940Sure, but it always blows up in their faces 9/10 times all the time. I prefer the Holo way of things where they get people with actual talent that don't drama bait. Ironic since my oshi is Mori, (she has gotten better at not responding to bait) but you get the point. Dramabaiters last about a year or two before they fall off HARD and they can never recover unless they can successfully rebrand themselves.
>>29095538>Ethyria barely got 15k~>Luxiem barely got 20k~Man Luxiem really fucking saved NijiEn
>>29096312Why is Fungus such a hard Hololive anti?
>>29096199Forcibly moving your viewers to another stream and them fucking off right away doesn't count as a box Voxsister
>>29090686>>29090861how do you guys know this??
>>29096480He hates idols. He's mentioned it multiple times, he thinks they're fake.
>>29096312He announced his stream before Vesper did though or not?https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid/status/1550996915248144384
>>29096480Complicated feelings for Sana. Her announcement mindbroke him and he turned into the joker.
>>29096388I don't know about watame but the hilarious part is that Pekora doesn't even do alot of membership streams. But I remember hearing something that they get more from membership than from sc? Or it's just a ploy to get more to show up and spam emotes in the preshow.
>>29096312>ALL OUT WAR!
>>29096328Scroll up
>peko vs miko>matsuri vs peko>fubuki vs gambling>niji vs holo>homos vs whores>EU vs NAAll this fighting is very interesting, but Flare is starting to lose viewers after 6 and a half hours. If you could end some more streams for her that would be great
>>29096436Hey was her concert kino? I get some things are never going to change about her, but I honestly just want her redemption phase to stick already.
Ado singing Laplus songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_nc5GGIsI
>>29096558good. fucking knife-ears.
>>29096480
>>29096436You say that, but it's only blown up in the case of vtubers because of the sheer extent of them being true menheras who can't do it productively. In the world of real streamers, nearly every single one of the top dogs is a constant dramabaiter (and they've done so for years and years without issue), and they do massive numbers compared to this little niche of an industry.
>>29096558( ˘ω˘)スヤァスヤァ anontachi.
>>29096560Not a huge Mori fan personally, but it might have been one of the best Holo concerts i have watched. Shit was actually Kino.
>>29096553no
>>29096602Where did this Fulgur Sana meme come from
>>29096423Yeah at the very least don't talk shit on your work accounts.
>>29096544Thanks to free membership now I get to post lightstick pekocheer lightstick whenever Peko says anything with even a slight tune to it
>>29096636it's not a meme.
>>29093075> 70k likes
>>29096539https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/15510686234808360965 hours before Vesper.
>>29096538Strong words for someone with the ASMR blowjob king in his branch.
>>29096560Moris concert was absolute kino, love her new 3D model with absolute passion AND shes putting out an album in December. Im as hype as hype can be. I believe in todays member stream she said that her next concert is most likely at a 10k holding venue were she to get it. I want to to see her at Yokohama and then TokyoDome after for sure.
>>29095538>Gura streaming Minecraft during their debut>StarsEN apperently forced to stream at the late timezone by management, also during their debuts. They're not pulling any punches lol
>>29094089nijiJP who are like ojisans but actually have a decently good design for women, can you name it please i wanna watchexcluding malmoto and yashiro cus i watched them already
>>29096544Watame just does one member stream a month since she doesn't want to gate her content since fans are fans. She'd rather just give members extras like wallpapers, comics or some of her voice training audio.
>>29096538>he thinks they're fakeamazing display of lack of self-awareness
>>29093573I didn't watch the homos live either, since I'm asleep at these hours.
>>29096695With the weird banjo song she was trying to play as well earlier today, god that was both awful and funny.
>>29096734vesper talked about it in his debut faggot
I feel sorry for matsuri>re:start>trying to get back to the box>fucking bored noukiddies have to rain on her parade becasue they dont understand that it's ok to stream snipe holos in rust
>>29096328Real talk, does she cares about streaming at all? And I dont mean those "I love streaming" facade anyone can utters. She didnt stream for a long while and now when the star debut she suddenly streams?
>>29096560Watame, Suisei and Mori concerts were all really good. If people have the money to spare for them I'd always recommend it.
>>29096761Fuck off with your headcannon, Gura wanted to stream Minecraft literally yesterday until management told her not to.
>>29096831>Hey I forgot to mention this while I was streaming but Litterally the start of the tweet. Atleast fucking read Anon.
>>29096755It's funny to me how her new outfits are more "her" but damn her original is so fucking ace design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpvXU9FEiMWell she said "Fuck Numbers" overlapping this shit with Ina so there goes her median for this month
>>29096852Take a hike retard. If you don't follow what a talent does, especially one you get al iteral daily play by play for like Gura, you could try to at least not fall prey to your deluded rrats.
>>29093938I uh... unironically forgot most of them.I remember the spanish chick, she's probably gonna be about what I expected tier, somewhere around 40-50k perhaps.Could not care less about any of the others, way too bland.
>>29096852kys rrat spewer
Holy jesas the day is getting insane with streams
>>29096926He forgot to mention the exact time retard, but he said he wants to do as much guerilla zatsu as possible in the morning
>>29088517>1mil subscribersNot gonna happen
>>29096956>Could not care less about any of the others, way too bland.She's the blandest of the bunch outside of her goddamn model
>>29096852I think she enjoys it, but I also think she would have preferred to have a lot less eyes on her.
>>29093938>laugh at these failures tier20k>they could have done better tier30k>about what I expected tier40k - 50k>Holy fucking shit I kneel tier60k>Viewfarm tier80k
>>29096956She will literally kill her numbers with otome games.
>>29096993Bet your penis on it coward
>>29096991So your head cannon is that Niji heard this and then decided that Fungus of all people should stream the next morning just in case so he could overlap?
>>29096998well yeah I don't really watch Nijisanji but the model is bretty good which is why I remembered her.Also easy to remember that her name is a typo.
>>29096609I think youre right on the chuuba side. Fleshtubers tend to do really well with drama since, well... you can see what they look like and people are very vain about that stuff. I just dont ever see dramatubers making it successful because its all behind an avatar. Everyone wants "what is real"but that doesnt work with chuubas in my opinion. People love the petty ad-hominem garbage. Its a lament I have and its just that I wish people would actually think for themselves but they dont so thats what people who do think when it comes to this stuff push towards...
>>29096993Incredibly unlikely, but a goal is a goal and he made a good meme with it.
>>29096609I think it's mainly because fleshtubers grew up in a different meta than vtubers. Also, the lead horse tends to be the one who sets the pace (meta) of the group.>Fleshtubers like Asmongold, OTV, etc. live off drama and react streams. >Hololive (the current vtuber market leader) operates more on gaming streams and idol stuff.>Nijisanji, back when they were market leader, shifted the meta from prerecorded skits to livestreamsI bet you if the top fleshtubers were skit-focused content creators that didn't like drama that the market's meta would shift to that instead.
>>29096852As someone that's been on her members streams it seems it's mostly management that's keeping her tied down, projects that she's been working hard on randomly get the no go and then the go ahead and they've made Gura go paranoid on her giving any signs of her being "free" to be able to stream regularly. She seemed legit ashamed for leading her viewers like that (personal rrat is that that's why she's doing the weird RP maid stuff recently) and wants to finish her projects fully to get back into the rhythm of streaming.
>>29096538Why doesn't he try to dance like an idol if he thinks it's fake?
>>29097080Call it whatever you want nijisis
>>29095065ALL OUT WAR, NIJINIGGERS
>>29096949Did she really say fuck?
>>29097172No
>>29097131she sounds like she needs Talent Freedom.
>>29096993A boy had the right to dream, anon
>>29095381For reference: the consensus seems to be that nijis will get 60-70k at least (if they're lucky, maybe 90K+). In contrast people were doomposting that the stars would barely make 20k. If even one of the nijis gets lower than one of the stars, that will be a massive meme for this thread
>>29097137He can't even walk 5 meters without dying anon
>>29097131Like anyone else she can turn things down. You don't need to act like she's being forced into it. She's just bad at balancing the two.
>>29097161How the fuck did Bae get NOTHING for her watchalong?
>>29097161TICK TOCKHAKOSHIT BAELZ
>>29096852She can only do 1 thing per day
>>29095065FUCK YEAH GURA FUCK EM UP
>>29097240She got a 1k the first day.
>>29097198I feel like people are puffing up the number so they can grudgepost and say it's a failure. I think 40k is a good floor and I'd be surprised if any of them went over 60k.
>everyone predicted blue and orange would be pack leaders>orange is at the bottomthis color is fucking cursed
>>29097137Fulgur Dance> earthquakes.
>>29097198>90k That'd be more than luck.
>>29095065Thats an hour before Niji debuts right?
>>29097265Anon she also streamed Amongus.
>>29097191HolostarsEN gen 2 should be a spaceship crew searching for the galactic leyline
>>29097287but JP orange man.....
>>29097287It hasn't even been a week since their debuts
>>29097240It was on the official channel why would Bae get subs?
>>29097161Fauna will pass Bae before Sana graduation. You can quote me on that.
We must seize the Holobox and redistribute those viewers to the streamers that need them more (Nijisanji).
>>29097240people unsubbing and people subbing probably broke even
>>29095065She wont win against debuts with Minecraft
>>29097314No, it's right on the debut
>>29097280I can see why you would think a 40k floor, but the number isn't completely crazy. People got that number from a mix of Noctyx' debut being 60k and the twitter hype. Personally, I think they're being overhyped but we'll see.
>>29097324Oh right, kinda forgot she was a part of that.
Will Iluna beat Council's debut numbers?
>>29097366I thought they were between 8 PST and 11 PST
>>29097287Australian are always last (Kiara, Bae, Sana, Axel).
So meme shark gonna visit id huh, might give it a try for once, also what the fuck is that pre chat? Do en pre chat like this or its just gura?
>>29097340>Wow I like this talent let me sub to her
>>29097240Are you serious? Why the fuck would fans go>oh yeah I love the homoslut!That shit's not gonna excite anyone.
>>29097380IT'SFUCKINGMONDAYMORNINGJST/CN
>>29097137Anon his belly lik.....
>>290944541. NijiEN in general filter the casual audience + the weeb audience, which comprise of most of the posters /here/.2. Nijisanji fans tend to blatantly lie about numbers.3. Nijisanji fans shit up this thread every time they with with literal monkey-on-typewriter tier spam (pic related).4. Anycolor itself have shady a f policies, and have they release meme-tier shit in their OFFICIAL fucking documents, like North America(China), "Entertainment FACTORY", "Lie:Verse" etc.VShojofags aren't much better, their shitposting angles are different though.Any discussion about any company is welcome here, it's just that 90% of the time Nijisanji and VShojo are the topic of a post, it's some faggot shitposting.Long posts and genuinely interesting numbers analysis is welcome from any side, it just tends to come mostly from holofan side.
>>29097449I don't disagree, just pointing out the consensus on /#/
>>29097137How long do you think he can runs?
>>29097414>interested in Gura because she visits indo server>broken english>baffled at chat being in english instead of orcspeakkonpagpag!
>>29096093ITS NOT TRUE SOCIALISM