/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28633542
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

thanks baker

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,890: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>45,802: Suisei (Hololive)
>39,934: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,429: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,090: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>36,815: Tsukasa (Indie)
>34,416: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,780: Miko (Hololive)
>32,595: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,350: Laplus (Hololive)
>25,603: Mumei (Hololive)
>18,748: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,910: Towa (Hololive)
>16,491: Luca (Nijisanji)
>15,433: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>14,835: Uki (Nijisanji)
>14,666: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,205: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,186: Reid (Neo Porte)
>12,513: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,276: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,209: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,156: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,914: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,281: Akira (Nijisanji)
>10,257: Sana (Hololive)

Believe in the Mag and the numbers will be good.

>>28633148
They don't want another Ridonkulous massacre
Just think, if they managed to get more CCV than TEMPUS' they don't gain anything because they are against Stars, but if by off chance TEMPUS mags them, hoo boy

>>28633677
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim
1x: AZKi, Kuzuha, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
128x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Kuzuha, Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa, Ibrahim
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa,, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Damn its over, Hololive is gonna lose the EN showdown against NijiEN because they chose to reveal HoloTempus and their shitty design instead of EN3.
I dont wanna lose the all out war bros not like this

The horn dude doesn’t have a bad voice, maybe he can get a few Chinese fujos too.

>>28633725
>ridonkulous massacre
what happened?

>>28633784
>EN showdown
What showdown?

>>28633784
Good thing Magni has 6 hands, one to bitch slap each new niji

>>28633784
I find your lack of faith towards MAGGOTHOOD insulting

>>28633784
The male side of the "war" was never up for debate. Fujos are all in on Niji.

The female side isn't up for debate either, though. More so now, with how Council is inclining. Both parties have found their strong points.

>>28633845
they debuted ranunculus during holofes

>>28633700
If I'm Magni, I'm even more mad after seeing Wave 6 designs. It's not that hard to get a passable design, Cover.

>>28633542
Final /news/ roundup for 19-07-2022
>>28593844

Additional news
>>28594312
>>28594801
>>28595176

Recent clip numbers
>>28580043
>>28580098
>>28580362
>>28580412

Did they change the r/Hololive background to shill the homoENs?
Have they ever done that before?

debut numbers

https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1549558573822226432

What a waste of design for this rigging

>>28633725
they knew it would backfire, i won't be surprise if they delay the debut after cover announce tempus

>>28633845
Riku thought it'd be a great idea to debut them IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING HOLOFES

This is gonna be a fun horserace. Whoever wins, the catalog is gonna implode

>>28633875
The new Holoboys may be targeting males though. It's up in the air at this point. Would be a bold move.

>>28633894
Anon, they avoided debuting them on the same day as Tempura, they're betting everything on those designs.

>>28633894
>wanting soulless designs
ngmi

>>28633942
they did it for holoX, and they only changed it after they made the new holoEN twitter, which was preparation for the stars announcement

whos going to be the first HoloEN to interact with the new nijis on twitter

JWU, I see ACCELERATE is in full force.
>>28633784
If HoloEN management is feeling particularly vindictive they'll drop EN3 in early August and completely suck out any hype from wave 6. If they're content with ignoring the competition and sticking to their schedule, who knows when EN3 comes out.

>>28633524
Would not be surprised, the girls stand out to me more so far but maybe that's just my personal preference kek. I can already easily picture the girls but the only guy I can easily remember is the Korean NTR Manhwa main villain (forma de horn edition)

>>28633894
i honestly feel they skimp out on designs for holostars with a lower budget than their girls which is understandable but rather sad

>>28633784
StarsEN is going to be far better than NijiEN new debut. I will wait for that moment
CAPTCHA: NW4G4Y

>>28633784
Its too early to throw in the towel. HoloTempus could win in the personality and voice department.

>>28633946
Tempest isn't going to stand a chance, but people are going to shitpost regardless.

>>28633972
I haven't been this giddy and impatient since STARTEND saga

>>28633950
>gura-tier booba rigging
heh

>>28633784
Holostars are gunna lose the EN showdown and nothing of value will be lost

>>28633791
if the rrats of who he is are right, he has a girlfriend

>>28633700
Why did Magni become the meme Holostar

>>28633950
do all the nijis get the same siff rigging?
i dont think i ever saw who the rigger was for any niji in the bios unless i was blind

>>28633950
rigging isn't the issue, Niji's live2d is garbage

>>28633950
Jesas...

>>28634134
By having a funny-bad design and being interesting on twitter

>>28634168
No, the issue IS the rigging, and that's because it's done in-house instead of contracting it out to professionals.

>>28633700

>>28634067
>could
it's almost guaranteed at this point. fujos are a very limited market

Unless ILUNA manage to create a box tiny around themselves in one week, after the collab ban is lifted luxnoc/Nina will leech off them strongly

>>28633784

>>28633950
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>28634134
Same reason Anya became the meme HoloID. Bad design/rig so humor is used to cope.

>>28634159
in-house rigging pls understand

>>28634019
Probably Mori but she's busy right now and probably more interested in Tempus anyway. Might be a while before any of them interact and most likely will just be a reply to one of the Nijis speaking to them.

>>28633950
Oh look, another DOA
GGEZ Riku

>>28634000
Honestly, if they are targeting dudes (but with some obvious subtle fujobaiting) THAT would genuinely be a curveball from Cover.

>>28633873
they knew from the start...

>>28633972
The catalog is surprisingly not as shitposty as I expected right now. I think we had more shitposts during the Tempus reveal. Not sure if it's because there's more Hololive antis making shitpost threads or just because most Holo fans don't care about Niji debuts.

NijiEN new Wave will eat into the numbers NijiEN already has and not add back into the pool. NijiEN numbers will go down over all and their attempts to build a box will be ruined as the number of talents without distinct appeal becomes too much for a casual watcher to follow anymore. They will drive potential viewers away with their vapid personalities and tired coomermemes

HolostarsEN will tap into a new audience who actually like them for their personalities instead of for their surface level appeal. They will grow without relying on HoloEN's audience to support them, bringing their own following from their PL to their reincarnations. They will build a new identity for their branch and incline Holostars as a whole through their efforts.

Nijisanji has already lost to both StarsEN and Hololive.

>>28633950
What a fucking waste

>>28634168
The riggin IS THE ISSUE

>>28633542
True average of CCV, 20 or more streams, July 1 to July 14
>>28395887

LIST OF 100K+ STREAMS
>>28429118
>>28429188

Council 30 days true average
>>28552826 :: Fauna
>>28553802 :: Mumei
>>28554518 :: Kronii
>>28554951 :: Bae
>>28555400 :: Sana
>>28582197

Anyone checked Anykara stock yet?

>>28634239
>>28634353
you misunderstand me, Niji makes their rigging bad on purpose to be inline with all their 1st gen chuubas for whatever weird reason

HoloEN is reclining its over...this market...

>>28634067
The new Niji's have terrible voices and we know Magni's voice already mogs the fuck out of them

>>28634134
In a sea of handsome men, being an 8-armed freakshow makes you stand out.
Could be great if he leans into it, and he's doing just that.

>>28633950
Councils is hardly better.

>>28634113
That hasn't stopped Luca.

>>28633700
>>28634241
>>28634246
FOR THE MAGGOTHOOD

>>28634345
>expecting anything from Holostars
Save some copium for the rest of us

>>28633946
The fuck, how was Ethyria that low? Definitely feels like if they debuted now it would be much higher.

End your stream you worthless green whore

From the digging people have done HomoEN has at least one 600k PL andy and potentially a 1m PL guy as well although could be anyone. Niji didn't risk a day to day fight in case the unidentified people are actually popular.

>>28634333
>or just because most Holo fans don't care about Niji debuts.
This is a Holoboard, what do you expect?

>>28634333
That second one definitely.
Also their designs are not too weird so that is already a shitposting avenue that doesn't apply.

>>28634531
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>28634490
Luca throw her under a bus

Fauna still hasn't fallen below 8K despite the start of the triple Minecraft streams. Saplings holding strong.

>>28634290
>targeting dudes (but with some obvious subtle fujobaiting)
Just like shounen manga. But how would you translate that demographic into vtuber's content? What kind of content/stream can appeal to that demographic?

>>28634480
He's clearly pretty good at spinning situations given he was able to salvage Mori's fucking retarded "Mr. Hands" comment

>>28634521
Nah, I'm right. NijiEN blew their load way to soon

>>28634537
The 1M guy is on Iluna

D-did nijiEN really put a debut a day right after tempus? Jesas.. what's with this blantant corpo drama?
Does hololive live rent free on every ENcorpo's inner manegerial?

>>28634452
Except for Salome? Or was she bad too? I have never seen a second of her streams

>>28634579
Kroni is a little outaide her timeslot too

>>28634134
>people not understanding a bad model can make them memorable.
Now he just needs to not bungle his debut. If he is who everyone saying he is and aces his debut then I think he is the star. If he is actually some no name 2view than nvm.

>>28634633
nijitroons actually believe this kek

>>28634589
I can think of two things off the top of my head.

>Shooters
>Party games

These two genres would provide the whole "dudes being dudes" energy they seem to be going for while also giving them space to fujobait.

It's really obvious the new Nijs were pulled from the indie vtuber crowd with how much they're coombaiting right now.

>>28634589
Just be funny. It's not hard, if you're talented. NijiEN has no one who is actually talented so far

>>28634531

>>28633894
Why? He got a so much better design. I wouldnt want some generic souless shit like nijis.

>>28633784
>they release en3 right after and mog nijisanji again
Uh?

>>28634290
Yeah, why bother fighting Luxiem on their turf when you could possibly create a new market in EN?
I mean, we'll see if that's even the plan, but considering Magni's suspected PL it seems likely. (Will be weird if he's the only one in his gen who does this though.)

>>28634712
the demon guy sounds like him bro. and i'd rather not have him in any place, he has a girlfriend (some people are speculating the girlfriend is also in but pretty sure it's just bait)

>>28634650
>D-did nijiEN really put a debut a day right after tempus?
not the first time anycolor did this

>>28634452
Oh.
I mean the reasoning is simple (don't want to be seen as favoring new 'livers') but it looks jank AF.

>>28634589
Anon, NijiJP males are exactly that

>>28634760
Ike has talent but nijien doesnt have the resources to support it.

Does debuting before or after a competitor put you at an advantage?

>>28634807
bait? here? they wouldnt dare

>>28634811
I don't know why they do when it hasn't ever worked out so far

>>28634863
Not that kind of talent, I'm talking Natural Comedian talent. The kind of person who can tell jokes and get laughs to anyone anywhere anywhen.

>>28634867
Depends on the competitor's performance

>>28634867
Hurts the runts of the gen and helps the top, so for example if someone liked one Homo EN but thought the other 3 were shit they would check out the nijis as well.

>>28634861
Yeah but it is somwthing that en market lacks if impossible even.

>>28634452
This can't be true, it would be monumentally stupid. Proof?

>>28634531
Eddie it’s time to move on…. she choose Hololive over you.

>>28634522
Ethyria debuted when the idea of comparing HoloEN and NijiEN numbers was a joke. It's a different landscape from now.
I think this new wave will match Noctyx's debut numbers, at least for the dudes.

>>28634804
It definitely sounds smart, but I would have never guessed Cover would go in that direction.

Honestly, if they do that and it works out, it would give management some major "we know what we're doing" points.

>>28634811
I miss OG Hisui. What a waste of design.

>>28634531
why?

>>28634867
After is always better unless the first group is an incredible success.

>>28635000
Baffling post. NijiEN numbers are STILL A JOKE

>>28634955
Vox in collabs is that but he fell for the fujos

HoloEN numbers atm (+Moona)

>>28634982
But you can translate that into chuuba content easy, Luxiem and Noctyx are just too dumb to follow their senpais example and would rather whoring themselves to CN

>>28634247
Nah.. ILUNA or whatever it's name is a guaranteed flop like noctyx

>>28634867
After rides hype waves and is generally a benefit unless you get absolutely mogged in quality

Honestly, the fact that Fauna's CCV has held on despite the beginning of the collab is pretty impressive. Saplings are impressing me rn.

>>28634867
After, not that it matters anyway because EN3 is still a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if around next month Hololive hot drops them and makes them debut the next day immediately

1 hour and 28 minutes and NijiEN 6 is hitting 10k subs on several accounts

>>28635004
>but I would have never guessed Cover would go in that direction
Why? That's how Stars have always rolled. They've always aimed for the Yumejo crowd instead of the Fujo crowd, they're male idols not manwhores

>>28635090
owakon

>>28634867
After should be better. For example, one of the reasons I am annoyed with Omega is because they announced him on the Council collab, which definitely stole some of their hype but ending up nothing.

>>28635000
still is a joke, do you really think nijien could match a holoen debut?

is it debut relay for both tempus and wave 6?

>>28634537
1m guy is in Niji, his voice is a match.

>>28635000
going to end up like edengumi peak views 1 male > 2 femboy > 3 females

>>28635169
Yes, but Stars came before Luxiem happened.

I was wondering if maybe Luxiem was going to push Cover in the manwhore direction.

>>28634867
I don't think it makes a huge difference but if I had to pick I'd go after.

>>28635195
Tempus got 2 on Friday and 2 on Saturday.
Niji 6 is all sunday.

>>28634811
That just bodes really ill for wave 6.

>>28635141
Already deadsubs lol, they'll never get above 10k CCV on any stream besides their Debut

why name it iLuna tho

>>28635135
fucking saplings spreading like a plague
but yeah seems like once people discover fauna exists they tend to stick with her

>>28635004
Cover already did that, twice even
>Penetrated EN market
>Pried open ID market

>>28634632
>blew their load way too soon
>5 months since the last debut

>>28635186
Council's debut was scuffed since they had to delay it by an entire day, will be curious to see what EN3 would get.

>>28634589
Autismo

>>28635286
5 months too early. Wait a year before saying it's time for a new gen

>>28635253
>comparing HolostarsEN to HoloGen 5
Meds

>>28635235
Manwhore when only mysta and vox are like that

>>28635286
4 months.
Most people were expecting 6months.
Is also 6 people

>>28634333
There's a lot of thread baits that feel coordinated.

>Tempus debut got delayed
>All 4 of them will debut on 23rd
DO IT COVER

>>28635250
3 straight days of debuts...Can any of these effect the actual gold tally?

>>28635235
So far we didn't see any evidence towards that
ILuna on the other hand...
God, what a dumb name. Whoever in charge of naming things in Anycolor should get fired[/spoiler

>doesn't let omega fuck with their JP branch
>lets it fuck up EN branch
i honestly think they hate EN

>>28634867
If the later debut has a comparable performance or even slightly worse it gives an advantage since the mindshare has some recency bias. It also allows you to capitalize on errors of the previous competitors.

For a non vtuber example look at how Sony BTFO Microsoft with the used games fiasgo.

>>28635278
ES market is waiting for you señor Yagoo

>>28634867
The one who debut before set the bar, those whore debut after will always be compared to the one before

HoloTempus can set the bar high if they are actually funny, bank on the meme and have a great personality.
ILUNA is obligated to be better, they have good design but nothing that made memorable yet.
Right now if you say HomoStarsEn you immediately think Magni Deeznut, Alucard or FurryDude.

>>28635286
Cant even give 3d or new outfits beyond 3 people. YES is too soon

>>28635198
You think the femboys are going to do better than the girls? Really, Why?

>>28635277
This kind of loyalty is something special. Especially considering that Kronii has been considered the golden child of Council for a while, and tonight she's only put a small dent in fauna's CCV.

>>28635341
5 months for Nijisanji is a ton of time retard. do you even know which agency you are talking about lmao

>>28635398
remember that time council's debut got delayed one day too

How fucking hilarious would it be if EN3 debuted days after Niji6 and sandwiched it with Tempus.

>>28634760
Elira and enna would actually make a good idol/singer. But, niji "family" forced them to be extras for Manjisanji's content

>>28635286
VOLTACTION just debuted you dumbfuck
>inb4 different market

>>28635407
I'm not sure what they are going against, but i would guess the Nijiboys might have a chance if Noctyx debuts are anything to go by.

>>28635407
NijiEN debuts will probably get 60k again at least so they'll be contenders if nothing big is happening on the JP side.
Don't expect anything from ENstars.

>>28635497
This is the en market

>>28635407
niji debut might

>>28635363
>Only Mysta and Vox
I mean, yes, but the degree to which those two manwhore is pretty much what has defined Luxiem.

>>28635464
Where's the money from, though? Does Mexico+Chile have enough? Is Brazil enough for its own chuuba in a Latin group?

>>28635497
The agency which is dying from oversaturation yes. They would do well to stop doing that

>>28635546
The girls would be slaughtered outright

>>28635474
Why the fuck are you talking about 3D when they are behind more than 15 JP members retard
The outfits arent happening because of rosemi mama needing to be changed so its delayed.

>>28634134
>bad model
>absurd design
>Mori nicknaming him after a man who died from horsecock
>Into bionicles

>>28634811
Will history releat itself?

>>28635464
>no ES market
>no KR market
>went for homo tempus
yagoo...

Did you think that Cover DIDN'T plan for this?

>>28635614
>Muh oversaturation cope.

>>28635589
>nijiEN
>EN market
lmao
how long until one of them does a chinese duolingo stream

>>28635090
Which site is this btw?

>>28634579
Fauna has one of the most stable floors.

>>28635378
sisters doing damage control

>>28635563
It literally is a different market. 90% of the NijiEN audience dont watch or know anything about NijiJP
>>28635589
This is the EN market and is also nijisanji. anyone who expected to not be like that since the beginning are honestly retards.
>>28635614
Not really

wait isnt stars en happening this Friday and Saturday or am i wrong

>>28635638
And that dwell already hit peak

>>28635742
3 weeks tops

>>28635027
Imagine being so fucking insensitive that you stream over your graduating genmate and sucking up viewers that could go to her

>>28635761

It's Vrabi check the numberfag sites post >>28633585

>>28634867
After, but in this case I feel like Nijisanji got baited. Tempus was announced and then they rushed to announce this new wave. Cover could announce EN3 in August or something and Niji will have nothing to counter that with because Tempus scared them.

>>28635729
You think Cover gives two fucks about NijiEN? HoloENs CCV is over double NijiENs.

>>28635739
Cope

Seeing the twitter interaction between Tempus and NijiEN6...yeah, I like Tempus tweets better.

>>28635762
For someone who's currently inclining, that's a VERY good trait to have.

>>28635787
thats correct, FRI & SAT PST

>>28634615
His rumored PL is a comedy channel, it makes perfect sense.

>>28635816
I realize this is the number thread, but jesus you need help.

>>28635852
That's because you're a toxic male incel weirdo.

>>28635852
>LA CREATIVIDAD and SOVL
vs
>Generic coombaits
Yeah no shit

>>28635839
Oh man Reimu is gonna become a 3.

>>28635821
>Nijisanji spooked by Tempus
Lul

>>28635852
no one asked

>>28635141
Bots

finally some exciting new shit to care about after endless strams of shit games from shit game streamers

>>28635729
cover probably don't give a single shit they will do nothing as always while everyone else hurts themselves in confusion

>>28635345
You're right, Tempus is probably going to be more popular and talented than the most forgettable gen in holo history

>>28635821
if you think this was a counter to holostars youre crazy. those things are planned much before and dont change dates out of nowhere like this

Already leeching
https://twitter.com/NinaKosaka/status/1549566717789085696

>>28635852
>making nijitrannies seeth
expected

If magni is who he is, his 1k-2k students might find their way back.

>>28635966
PFFFT NICE JOKE
Dumbass, stop coping

Did Yagoo tricked Riku's acceleration with StarEN?

>>28635852
both are shit, go back

>>28635839
>SNOT at the top
Just realized this.

>>28635235
Why? Cover never forced themselves to copy others. Heck they never gave a shit about their competitors and always focus on their own walled garden. And yet, they always live rent free on other corpo's head, especially on ENsphere

>>28635966
Aren't their YT channels created just last week? On the other hand, Tempus YT channels got created last month.

>>28636030
People who are in the know are already spreading it to the others

>>28636103
It's a great group, they should do more together.

>>28635614
I don't know how you can still say oversaturation when no one's numbers in JP have been severely affected by debuts in the past year.
HoloX didn't really affect other HoloJP numbers. Salome was a CCV whale for a month and she didn't steal anyone's viewers. The new debuts will struggle to carve an audience for themselves, but this idea that that people will lose viewers to them hasn't happened yet.

On the EN side, we're not even close to saturation, people are choosing to skip uninteresting streams like Ame Elden Ring ep20.

>>28635966
right
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1549231166573666304

>>28636103
>leech on gura
>it works
????????????????

>>28636030
What was sen*was ccv before she debuted?

Looks like Fauna's CCV has stabilized at a little over 8K.

For context, rn, she has:

>Kronii overlap debuff
>Sana graduation relay debuff
>Minecraft collab overlap debuff

And yet, her numbers are holding out. Jesus, saplings.

>>28636119
that is how cover typically works. The council channels were created in mid-july last year.

Hey topic, fuck off

>>28635966
Anon, half of ILUNA are Noctyx and Ethyria rejects
This is basically Noctyx 2.0 except much worse

>>28635852
Who cares this is the numbers thread I'm sure that some here prefer Stars twitter attitude but that gets less engagement than the likes of Luxiem and even Noctyx

>>28636156
But I thought chumbuds didn't watch anyone else!?

>>28635839
Bae...

Ngl... Tempus announcement and marketing was more cool. And the manga is being interesting so far... If omega has based the lore on their personality and is using it... They can really do well

>>28635839
Cannot actually come up with a comprehensive comeback so you default to 'cope'. According to #s Nijisanji EN is a failure, if that is the case why aren't they consolidating the branch as they did with IN and KR. If you want to argue the talents are suffering then that'd be a bridge to sell. Because they seem rather happy with what AnyColor has done so far. Objectively, NijiEN is successful.

so
>20) Kuzuha koshien
>21) Sasaki koshien
>22) Gwelu 3D
>25) NijiEN wave 6
>27) ROF-MAO/Chronoir concert
>28) Mayuzumi graduation

gold

https://twitter.com/regisaltare/status/1549565754747637760?s=21&t=Z61vYd3I4a3e6lYDR463HQ
Woah ok who is this
He’s replying to lilypichu’s alt account

>>28635497
>>28635638
Hello noor. Where have you been?

>>28635852
Numbers?

Does it smell like Damage Control in here to anyone else? It feels like the Nijifans are afraid.

>>28636252
You need to stop

>>28636172
Now tell me what her numbers look like when Ina is streaming

https://twitter.com/AiaAmare/status/1549562808442015750?cxt=HHwWjMC-pcLKk4ErAAAA
Yeah okay if this is the type of personality they are hiring for wave 6 Holo doesn't have to worry, they are not competing for the same audience

>>28636252
kys

>>28636165
500-1k

>>28636280
>NijiEN
>Successful

>>28636280
Because it would look bad on their IPO? Are you retarded?
ID and KR branch are older than EN, imagine how the market would perceive it if Riku disbands EN branch not a year into their existence

>>28636337
That's def something

>>28636103
Ina is the Barrier in between Gura and the rest of snot. But yeah council didn’t do as well as expected

>>28636314
Gwelu is on the 23rd and Towa outfit is on the 22nd. Luna outfit is on the 21st and will beat Sasaki (which is funny because she bullied Luna out of Nijisanji)

>>28636242
large amounts dont, but if 10% of Guras 20,000 chumbuds go to watch Faunas 6000 streams thats a 2000 boost
If 30% of Ames 5000 went to watch Fauna that would only be a 1500 boost.

So theoretically more Teamates watch other holos than Chumbuds at least by population size but since theres so many more chumbuds the discrepancy doesnt matter.

>>28636314
>27) ROF-MAO/Chronoir concert
wtf this is a thing? its on the main channel?

>>28636337
Mio v2

>>28635928

>>28635611
Spics don't spend money but when they do they will make look Orca like tame.
t. Spic

>>28636337
He's a former low tier Twitch streamer that's why he knows who she is.

>>28636393
It's like NijiEN only know how to coombaits, it's getting stale

>>28636337
I think we already guessed him as hanbyeol, friends with Shoto and probably runs in the same circles.

Honestly I have a feeling that the girls would still be in the same spot, acceleration or not

>>28636480
22nd anon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL3TxPIrtyc

If NiijEN6 manages to get meme talents, they can beat HoloEN easily.

>White blue cunny
>Purple shota

>But... With horrible voices and rigging
Ah yes

>>28636575
Towa will win

>>28636551
Nah they also know how to pander to Alphabet people.

>>28636361
seems their a little afraid now

>>28636542
would they all be toriyama knockoffs?

>>28634615
Notice how, by salvaging Mori's reply and posting one (1) meme drawing, he has managed to completely silently deflect almost all criticism of his fucked up face and rigging into fun memes about his extra hands. The number of chuubas who could do that either consciously or through unconscious charisma are in the single digits.

>>28636172
>>Kronii overlap debuff
>>Sana graduation relay debuff
>>Minecraft collab overlap debuff
Even if you list it as three differents things, it's basically one collab. The famous "EN overlap hell".

>>28636146

>>28636480
change your frickin timezone

How would you rate their voice, anons? Other than the gyaru, the others are underwhelming.

>>28636632
Again
>coombait

>>28636393
female uki

>>28636551
>>28636393
>>28636632
this fucking zoomer idea of "look at me I'm gay" is so fucking boring. Gimme a camp gay faggot anyday.

>>28635489
It's a "slow and steady wins the race" situation. Fauna is simply more consistent than Kronii, despite Kronii's huge debut buffs. If Kronii took her job more seriously (or alternatively had less menhera woes), the situation would be different.

>>28636624
They got Sweeto and Wolfychu, it's already over. Stars only has Lando.

>>28636692
You get the point, though. She's under a HUGE debuff atm but she's still stable.

>>28636428
Okay, figure out what success means and you can actually have a point.
>>28636439
Are you retarded, school yard insults to feel better about yourself? If you were actual business man restructuring is just a part of raising income. If AnyColor disbanded an unprofitable portion of their business their stocks would rise. If AnyColor disbands a profitable portion of their company then their stock falls. What is NijiEN?
>>28636679
Projection?

>>28636692
Well sana neede to get some viewers from somewhere

>>28636337
What's the difference between Wolfchu and Lilypichu? Different streamers? People are saying they think Wolfchu is one of the new Nijis. Along with Hana Flores.

>>28636772
WAIT THAT'S A FUCKING DUDE?

>>28636314
I'll bite the bait and say what anyone with a brain is thinking right now. NijiEN6 is a rank disappointment. Generic designs, hot dropped, shitty voices, mixed gen, coomerbaiting, no personality or theme, no sense of brand identity. There is no way they have Gold on any day, even on their Debuts. Even if they blow up and crush Holostars, they will be 3views on debut.

>>28636630
>3d debut lost to maimoto's 2020 koshien draft
>3d bday live lost to kuzuha's koshien god run
Twap curse...

If StarsEN also has a Korean talent, does that mean Cover is actually considering KR as a potential market?

>>28636728
Horn guy is the only good one.

https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1549564922152964096?t=1DUVlpitnFMajlsdIjqmQw&s=19
Love their bantz

>>28636728
DoA/10

>>28636728
Also, she is not gyaru you dumb westoid
Learn the word first

>>28636834
You seem a bit mad sis.

>>28636828
>a HUGE debuff
You guys are hilarious.

>>28636885
bro being bros

>>28636728
I don't really have strong opinion of their voice, except brown girl which I like, and the blue boy which I hate because I actually like the design

>>28636834
Totally MAGGED

>>28636361
>Be nijinigger
>ALL OUT WAR
>shaking their legs the moment Tempus seeing some traction from twitter
>T-they must be unto us! REEEEEE IT'S ALL OUT WAR!! R-RELEASE THE NEW WAVE

>>28636815
>Sweeto & Wolfychu
Phew, my boy Axel is safe then

>>28636843
I don't think so. It's just a lazy zoomer.

Don't forget that after ILuna there's a big Niji graduation followed by a big HoloEn graduation. Those will suck the hype out of both new generations.

>>28636885
Magni literally can't stop winning, jesus. God really did give his hardest challenge to his strongest soldier

>>28636815
>Wolfychu
stop pushing this shit rrat

>>28636513
concert prob with free live

>>28636885
Check the shills. >>28636908 >>28636965

>>28636314
Towa is not losing.

>>28637020
Nah, Graduations are a power up for new Holopro debuts. It's a tradition at this point

>>28636834
>If AnyColor disbanded an unprofitable portion of their business their stocks would rise
>What is market sentiment
I'm disappointed Noor, I thought pajeets understand business

>>28636979
Tempus' personalities have been carrying them despite the shaky reveal. I'd wager AnyColor didn't see that coming.

>>28637020
No NijiEN fan gives a shit about the guy that's graduating.

>>28633946
>Floptyx had x3 bigger debut than Luxiem
>Sana had bigger debut than Myth
So.... debut numbers are worthless?

>>28636858
Not really, they've had Ina and Kronii and Iofi who speaks Korean and done fuck all with it. They, like Nijisanji, just prefers to hire westernized Asians for their EN branches whenever possible.

>>28636885
I'm so weirded out because I'm used to male vtubers just being faggots around each other.
This bros being bros thing is strange

>>28637074
fujo invasion

>>28636885
Just guys being dudes

>>28637074
MAGGOTHOOD UNITED

>>28637128
>koyori mogged them all
Yes

>>28637020
Chinese fujos don't even know who Mayuzumi is lmao

>>28636428
Baffling post. Luxiem has a 1 mil sub Vtuber.
Name me Homo with 1 mil subs.

>>28636834

>>28636280
I don't think NijiEn is a failure, but I do think you're retarded for arguing with obvious Nijiantis and now you're all going to shit up the thread.

Funny thread.

>>28637142
This is what I said earlier. In a Post-Luxiem world, it's strange seeing Cover go in the "yeah they're just dudes" direction.

>>28637251
Magni (soon)

>>28637128
They reflect the success of the previous debuts Myth into Council and Luxiem into Noctyx.

>>28637251
Towa

>>28637251
Luxium has no 1 million sub Vtuber though

>>28637268
Man this is bullshit. Council should have gotten their own manga backstory.

>28637074
>everyone I don't like is a shill
what is this angle? I've been seeing it for the last 2 days

>>28637251
Bro kronii?

I keep missing BOOB number on Fauna's stream.

>>28636210
How are them rejects when they are part of the march audition, retard?

>>28637251
A few weeks early, should've just went with a nendo bc no Homo will ever get one.

>>28636361
they fear awesomeness
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1549537696984416256

>>28637338
go back homoshill

>>28637270
Well the obvious baits will end in a couple of weeks, so might as well play with the trolls while their around.

>>28637290
>strange
You mean,"refreshing".

>>28636393
So what kind of audience is she looking for? Lesbians? Cuck males?

So many event this month bros. Don't you think shit is a little bit packed now?

ok this is legit funny
https://twitter.com/regisaltare/status/1549571569982242816

>>28637128
It shows how successful the previous gen was at expanding the brand. Big debuts don't mean much if the talent doesn't have much to offer anyways, just look at Noctyx VS Luxiem.

>>28636393
She has a hot voice too... goddamnit...

>>28637128
Debut numbers are more about how big your company footprint is than about the quality of the talent. If the numbers are going up, the branch is expanding. If they go down, the branch is shrinking.
I do wonder how much EN 3 would be able to pull though. The vtubing boom seems to be past its peak and Council debuts were really high, already pushing the edge of the Holobox.
I'm expecting wave 6 debuts to beat Noctyx debuts

Out of the way Takamori, you've been dethroned as the most forced ship
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1549570914257211392

>>28637363
>march audition
>audition
Funny nijinigger

So, Fauna's already inclining, but what buffs does she need before she REALLY starts exploding?

My only guess is she needs to learn to sing better, which she's apparently working on.

Fuck it. I'm going full homoshill, these Nijiniggers have turned me into one out of spite

>>28637338
They are mad /vt/ love Magni and not their dudes

>>28637549
Welcome to MAGGOTHOOD brother, we could always use a pair of hand, or six

>>28637251
Kuzuha and kanae

>>28637528
No she doesn't, what the fuck is wrong with you? All of NijiEN 6's voices are just plain bad

>>28637539
Yeah, they opened audition on march for no reason anon

>>28637538
If she gyaru is gay that's a fucking absolute fucking waste.

>>28637529
I actually expect it to be less than noctyx.
Noctyx rided luxiem best months. Right now not so much

>>28636501
The thing about Fauna is that she seems to be able to convert tourists into regular viewers. Probably works extra well with Gura since she doesn't stream that often.

https://twitter.com/AiaAmare/status/1549571520338579456
So she is a seadog, a Viet even

>>28637527
>>28637529
explain Niji JP debut numbers

>>28637395
High effort fanart
https://twitter.com/Saruei_/status/1549499319761326081?cxt=HHwWgsCq4f7a9oArAAAA

Also
https://youtu.be/eEG2I9U3IHk?t=873

so how many nijiEN are there now?

COUNCIL LOVE

>>28637520
I really did not expect...nothing
I thought I would get rickrolled

>>28637543
her last unarchived karaoke was pure SOVL tho

>>28637549
i'll be rooting for Magni as the underdog, the shitposting has been great

>>28637663
Fuck

>>28637741
26

>>28637549
the fans of the Nijimales and the EN Homos get along pretty damn well though

>>28636885
i can't hate mag at all bros wtf

>>28637696
Salome got bigger numbers than Edengumi. As for the VTA debuts, no one cares about VTA, they're not new or fresh.

>>28637742
become a single line, become a single line, become a single line

>male vtubers
>no boy bands yet
im surprised no one went down this route yet. does it sound like a good idea?

>>28636772
It's funny seeing Nijis gay baiting by going "look at me I'm gay uwu" while Hololive had two people go to the fucking Maldives for a week and the pavonashi thread became one of the fastest threads in this board at some point.

>>28637785
good, let the nijifemales get buried more and more.

>>28637543
Fauna is like Ina 2.0. She's never going to "explode" because she's just not a dynamic streamer, she's comfy and reliable. Also trying to make her even passable at singing would be a colossal undertaking.

>>28637549
You were doing that from the start. Stop pretending

>>28637785
There is no such thing as a good Selenposter

>>28637742
Man holofans really pushing sana

>>28637644
You have shit taste, I get it.

>>28637829
SUTOPURI is a thing you newfag

>>28637663
DOA

>>28637696
Gimme a qrd, I dont know how the recent Niji JP debuts compare. The VTA thing also messes with debuts because everyone is somewhat of a known quantity. You could compare to someone like Salome, but she was also a unique case with a lot of buffs, normal Niji jp debuts wouldn't be on her level.

>>28637778
too many

Are they testing the waters for the ES market? https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1549573775674314752

>>28637663
Is she Seraphina? Forgot the exact spelling but she's a 2view Vietnamese-American streamer that appeared on Moona's birthday totsu.

>>28637933
Not enough, need to ACCELERATE more

>>28637960
>Latina
ok now im curious

>>28637887
I'll be real, never heard of them until your post anon. but is it a good viable idea for some corpos to do?

>>28637543
>before she REALLY starts exploding
Nothing will make her explode. Fauna is a textbook chill streamer, which means high floors and low ceilings.
To be massive, you either need to be a superstar like Gura or ambitious as fuck. Fauna is neither.

>>28637960
reimu already did that no

>>28637960
Reimu nepotism hire

>>28637663
Oh fuck YAGOO! Don't go into the jungle!

>>28637708
When Korone shilled Saurei's stream by retweeting it I thought she was Russian.

>>28637549
AIEEEEE ANON GONNA MAG!!

>>28637462
Variety is the spice of life
It is boring if all male vtubers are like Luxiem

>>28637960
I mean Reimu did that and she is the runt of the entire branch.

Wave 6's design seems to blend with one another. None of them are going to stand out.

>>28637655
It's possible. Really I'm just relying on NijiEN becoming more of a brand name people recognize, which translates to more event tourists.

>>28637871
FOMO. her graduation is looming, after all.

>>28637960
>testing the waters for the ES market
They could be

>>28638040
is that a boy or a girl?

>>28637960
Her design looked like latina to me so that seems to be the case

>>28638013
You need either a rabid fanbase a la ROF-MAO/Chronoir or good music

>>28638040
Seriously, this is the best Nijisanji could find? Do none of these people have any personality other than fucking Twitch memes that got stall years ago?

we /nijien/ and /stars/ now

>>28638018
>>28638077
Yeah but Reimu isn't latina enough

>>28638040

PLEASE GET THE NIJISPY OUT OF THE STAFF TEAM

>>28638122
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549574817946279936

ACCELERATE

>>28637520
is any other member post their voice sample like this blue boy?
his voice kinda what i not except, but still wait for his debut

>>28638040
God, they're so...tiring
It's like one joke over and over again

>>28637538
Lesbian ship for this model would be an absolute waste, please tell me they're not going to push this shit seriously. Her model is pure sex.

>>28638040
I thought nijiEN could not get worse

>>28638139
Latina vtubers are a disaster

I was not here during holoX debut. Did Cover just drop the trailer and instantly debut all of them within the next 5 days without any builtup?

>>28638040

>>28638159
>>28638180
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28638180
ALL OUT WAR

>>28638159
>>28638180
fuck off fuck off fuck off omega

>>28638159
>>28638180
Who the heck gave Riku the password to the holo twitter account.

>>28637742
If Fauna would just stop playing that boring piece of shit and funnel to her fucking genmates this would be so much better

Dammit I need 8008. Cmon fauna...

>>28638159
i mean is it really a shock? the empty seats in their first group picture felt like a hint of them adding more

>>28638252
Yes, just like ID3

>>28638097
That won't happen. They just murdered their fucking box and shit is going to get worse before it gets better with wave 7 surely already planned in advance of this announcement. People will know NijiEN exists but not watch it because they couldn't keep up, the culture will become even more insular, and inevitably it will break down and collapse like NijiID.

>>28638040
>>28636393
>HAHA Im Gaaaaay
Come on Illuna you're going to have to be funnier than that. Where are your fucking comedy chops and improv skills?

>>28638040
this is sad..
t.nijifag

>>28638252
Yes but people ate it up because it was more than a year since the last HoloJP debut.

>>28638180
Jesas

>>28637989
https://twitter.com/serotinavt?lang=en

20k follower coombaiter twitch streamer. Not sure the voices match or not.

>>28638248
Yes, but they can get them numbers and that's what matters.

>>28638013
Too expensive

ACCELERATE
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549574817946279936

>>28638308
I think it might have been some one they booted