/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2854907
>why did people stop watching her?
Not enough variety in her streams (it’s mostly all gaming). She also needs to upload songs like Calli does in order to pull in new subscribers. Get can get millions per song. Also Gura is still popular, it just faded a bit. I think Gura needs to be a bit more free spirited as well, willing to make edgy jokes or whatnot without feeling restricted by the EN management.

It's almost as if a bunch of people just subbed to her for the meme

>>2854907
Most of her subs are into gaming content. She cannot play Minecraft forever because that will be repetitive and she is not allowed to play the newest exciting releases.

It’s important to understand that Gura is still #1 on Holo EN (she just recently pulled 25k viewers) but has faded like all the other EN streamers. It’s not a Gura thing, it’s about maintaining interest.

>>2854907
Who cares? Hololive is better when they dont pander to normies. Gatekeeping the western audience is something that needs to happen.

Ah yes, another Gura anti thread from the same obsessed schizo.

I do not get the problem. The views on her vids fluctuate between 200k and 1m, most of them being over 400k.
Meanwhile, the other ENs mostly have vids with 200-300k views.

Any guesses on how long they'll post anti Gura bait threads before moving on to the next vtuber to shit on?

>>2854907
yes, and that's unironically a good thing. Her core fanbase it's about 12-15k viewers and she seems to be content with that

>>2855050
>Hololive is better when they dont pander to normies
But just being good by default attracts more people in general. So it’s unavoidable. Perhaps if EN management allowed them to be less kid friendly, then it would be less of a problem? Dunno.

Not a whole lot of big collabs, not a lot of special streams, not enough variety in general.

>>2855050
gura is a "normie" you normalfag

>>2854980
yeah she has what it takes to create original songs too. she really should lean into that aspect.
not sure she'd be able to do parodies sadly, which we know she's good at.

>>2855022
>she is not allowed to play the newest exciting releases.
this also kills her, she has the makings of a variety streamer but isn't allowed to play the games she could want.

>>2855098
Gura increased the length of the stream to increase the amount of views, similar to Korone. But Gura is still doing better than other EN streamers, so the targeting of Gura specifically (excluding other EN) is sus.

>>2855125
>Perhaps if EN management allowed them to be less kid friendly, then it would be less of a problem?
Please god, no! If their managers did not hold them back, Kiara would be like Veibae and Ame would be like she was as an indie.

>>2855046
Ame had more viewers for the smol Ame game (27k max) but in the end it seems like it has to do with the adblock not counting as viewers rrat or the fact that everyone is going back outside for work cause of vaccines and just watch the vod (it's why Gura always beats the other high sub Holos for total views)

>>2855171
>this also kills her, she has the makings of a variety streamer but isn't allowed to play the games she could want.
Agreed.
Is it really that hard to get permissions before a game releases so you can immediately play it on release day?
Cover must realize that the first few days of streaming a new release bring in the most views, right?

>>2855192
>Please god, no!
Then with censorship you get normies who think EN is made for kids. It’s why people jokingly connected Disney to Gura. EN management sucks.

>>2855198
>muh adblock
Here we go again

>>2854980
>willing to make edgy jokes
but anon... think of the children...

>>2855262
You can't argue with them. If a HoloEN says a bad word or makes a crass joke they act like the company will crumble. Retarded burger politics have ruined entertainment for everyone.

>>2855198
Don't lie about something that is very easily verifiable.

>>2855282
>but anon... think of the children...
Right, anime is for kids. I forgot.

>>2855256
>Is it really that hard to get permissions before a game releases so you can immediately play it on release day?
I *think* the problem is that Cover is always looking for explicit permission from the company for their streamers, and don't just abide by the implicit/generic rules that allow people to stream a game.

People seem to forget that vtubing is still a small niche in the west compared to Japan. The fact that they're getting the views they are is huge. EN-haters also love to pretend there wasn't a bug in Youtubes live view count that affected everyone at a different rate.

>>2855262
Gura just said cock on stream by accident and makes a lot of innuendos, I prefer that to what Kiara does and in her position she's more likely to piss off Susan so she's playing smart with the rules meanwhile she also knows she has actual children with their parents watching her so there's a lot of factors to why she filters herself compared to the other EN girls

>>2855297
Wow that's a huge difference

>>2855312
probably not a bug, just some weird algorithms they have for one reason or another, but yes the numbers we have access to definitely don't tell the whole story.

>>2854980
>I think Gura needs to be a bit more free spirited as well, willing to make edgy jokes or whatnot without feeling restricted by the EN management.

You also know JP Holos can get away with dirty jokes and saying dirty things cause they're Japanese, Susan is more evil when it comes down to people who can actually speak English

>>2855305
Couldn’t EN management only require permission for JP collab when it is OUTSIDE of Hololive? This would allow them to collab freely within Hololive. Management makes it harder on purpose.
>>2855333
>Gura just said cock on stream by accident
And Gura spent a long time being worried about it. She seems like she is walking on eggshells over anything being offensive. It limits her potential.

>>2855333
They all have children watching them. Gura is the only one who has said "screw the kids" on stream. She plays it off as big brained but the reality is she's just scared. She talked about cock for twenty minutes yesterday giggling saying "huhaha I didn't say it! did I say it?" like a fucking middle schooler.

>>2855372
She denied it was intentional because of EN management.

>>2855415
Yes cause her being the biggest talent in her company she's expected to be more careful especially with the fact one slip up will make anyone of the anti groups (especially zhangs that have gotten more angry ever since YouTube actually took action against their spam) take advantage of it. It only limits her from talking like your typical Western vtuber which isn't an issue since you have bitches like Nyanners whining about people making clips of her talking about dicks and poop thinking that's what her and Vshoujo is mostly.

>>2855340
Call it whatever you want. They're excluding a sizeable chunk of live viewers for everyone across youtube, and the amount varies wildly between streamers.

>>2855466
Why do you faggots act like there are only two ends of the extreme? If she didn't have to walk on eggshells that doesn't mean she would be Nyanners. Go fuck yourself.

>>2855488
those are junk viewers that should be excluded

>>2854907
Normalfags were always fairweather friends who would move on when the novelty of woman streaming behind moving .jpg wore off and when COVID eased up.
HERfags drifted away when it became clear she was set on staying relatively PG.
What you have now are the leftovers.

>>2855466
>she's expected to be more careful
EN management is more restrictive than JP management, which limits potential IMO.

>>2855125
True, being good does attract more people, but i think its going to attract more nonretards than pandering does. I just want mindless twitter drones to fuck off forever.
>>2855141
take meds

>>2855503
There's this weird dissonance with people who hate western vtubers where they ignore all the crude/offensive shit that Japanese vtubers say but turn their nose up at someone saying fuck or dick too many times in English. Meanwhile, there are several JP holos who have outright told their fans to masturbate to them or that it's okay if they do. That's just one example obviously, but many of them talk about obscene things regularly. I just wish there was a bit more consistency rather than the embarrassingly obvious bias.

Reminder that Gura is a Floridian

>>2855503
>If she didn't have to walk on eggshells that doesn't mean she would be Nyanners.
Correct, Gura without the restrictions wouldn’t be Nyanners, Gura would just be closer to her old self, perhaps uploading funny songs and such.

>>2855539
In what way does it limit her aside from talking unfiltered like HER did? She would still be making the same content adding your typical penis in the pussy joke

>>2855563
I think she stated several times that she comes from Atlantis

>>2855532
>HERfags drifted away
You obviously don't read the chat.

>>2855575
>In what way does management restriction limit Gura’s potential
In the same way that comedy has be nerfed by political correctness. It makes you too busy second guessing everything before you say it, ruining what otherwise would be potentially funny jokes.

>>2855590
So she's from the Bahamas?

>>2855575
I feel like this is just cope. If Gura was allowed more freedom most people would have a positive reception.

>>2855618
Funny jokes that she manages to make it work anyways, Gura has taken the filters she has to put on and slowly has been chipping away at then to see how far she can go, all her jokes like "meatspin lol" along with the sad waffle tweet. Gura is trying to find a perfect balance in the company she likes. Would EN management be lax if they didn't blow up? Maybe, maybe Gura would basically just be Shark HER but at this point it's more exciting to me to see how far she can play around with her jokes before someone gets mad and besides Gura has mentioned that she wanted to make meme clips too but has never gotten around to making them.

>>2855691
From who? HERfags? Cause this fags were already cumming buckets from her singing Cups recently

>>2855738
Sad waffle was not what you're trying to make it be, idiot
>>2855618

>>2855777
No from fucking everyone. If you pull your head out of your goddamned ass you'd realize that people just love Gura. People talk all this shit now about how it's better this way for whatever stupid arbitrary reasons, but I promise you they'd still love her just as much if not even more if the limitations were eased.

>>2855141
How many women have you been around?? Any talent in anything at all pretty much makes her not that.

>>2855816
From everyone who already loves her? Cause from what I can see it's only a couple of people here crying that she can't make blunt sexual jokes while her audience filled with children whines about her video being called "meatspin lol"

>>2855575
Oh yeah, and she's already made multiple "penis in the pussy" jokes, faggot.

>>2855856
How could you ask a stupid question like that then follow it up by confirming you yourself have not been around many women?

>>2855297
The 2 month old video premiering a new game got more views than the video that went up less than 24 hours ago??????? Really makes one think.

>>2854907
Because she's a cunt that throws temper tantrums like a child every 5 minutes. It's like watching DSP, or the game grumps.

>>2855738
>she manages
I’m simply saying she would do better by not being forced to walk on eggshells.
>Would EN management be lax if they didn't blow up? Maybe, maybe Gura would basically just be Shark HER
Well not exactly HER, but perhaps not as far apart either. You know? Just providing more freedom to do what she wants.
>Gura has mentioned that she wanted to make meme clips too but has never gotten around to making them.
I suppose I’m suggesting to you that the reason she cannot as easily make those funny uploads, is BECAUSE pushing the envelope to be funny may not be acceptable by EN management. So Gura probably has stuff ready, but afraid to release without censoring it first, or scrapping it for something more friendly to management. Censorship leads to a lot of potential content loss.

>>2855885
The point is you idiots always come out and talk about how she's somehow great because she is restrained but the reality is that if she wasn't restricted you would also enjoy that too. It's the literal embodiment of coping. It's sad because there's not even a reason to cope over stupid shit like this.

>>2855914
The reason why I posted the image was not to look at VOD views, but to say that Gura had more live viewers. The person I replied to said Ame had more live viewers.

>>2855923
She's made enough jokes that are considered sexual that any joke meme short videos from her wouldn't be a problem, she's just being lazy with it cause at this point a video of her just doing a stare like Ame would get her millions of views

>still mogs even pekora in VOD views
I love this shark.

>>2856022
>She's made enough jokes that are considered sexual that any joke meme short videos from her wouldn't be a problem
I feel like she was testing the waters; however, the amount of accident/apology type of responses afterward, suggests that she is not thinking it’s safe to do.

>>2856079
She's basically Pekora on how she's become an icon for children even though she never asked for it. She should have gone for screw the kids attitude from the start

>>2855439
A few years back when I was still on tumblr people didn't know what Badgers, mushrooms, and snakes had to do with each other.

She may very well have not known.

>>2856111
I think you also can't forget the fact that she doesn't have a good history with clippers when she does something outright sexual by accident, that RFA clip is a good example. She also coped in the end by saying it was just a word and slip of the tongue.

>>2856112
>She should have gone for screw the kids attitude from the start
Was probably worried about losing her job? Maybe she is feeling a bit more comfortable to give pushback now. I mean it’s kind of hard to dump her after the popularity.

>>2856183
>accident
Nigga who the fuck moans like that when they exercise

>>2856230
During cardio no but some mfers sound like they having sex when they're heavy lifting.

>>2856230
Someone who didn't sleep all night and was only on Monster? You know her first RFA stream had her barely moaning and she just sounded like a retard dying when she was doing that RFA stream she said so herself she had no control over herself for that stream

>>2856298
I mean she said herself she went overboard. You have to be naive to think she didn't do that on purpose.

>>2856230
I'm gonna go with the Zomcuck route on Isle 4 and say

"she was just scared"

>>2856523
Like how Ollie was scared when she made orgasm sounds.

>>2854907
I've only been watching less because the community is complete cancer

>>2855297
To top it off, Gura already has 600k total views on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see it at 1 mil in a week or a month by the latest.

>>2856298
>on Monster
It's a fucking energy drink not PCP

>>2856112
I don't know what country your from but screwing kids is very illegal in the civilized world.

You realize having smaller audience is better right, that said her chat is mostly green, which means most of her viewers are members.

She can't be interesting because she was harassed by Brittany Venti and others early on.

Every small thing she did was seen as pedobait

>>2854907
Because she's a twitch thot pretending to be an idol

>>2855532
>relatively PG
You're dumb as fuck. The HERfags have never been happier.

I used to go out of my way these past months to watch all the ens I could. Over the past 2 months or so I've found them all gotten quite boring for me. I really only tune into the mario content and that's it. They're firmly on if no one else is streaming level rn.

ITT: copious amounts of COPE
Gura would be a camwhore if she had tits

>>2854907
SHESN FUCKING BORING PEOPLE ONLY SUSCRIBED TO HER IRONICALLY FOR TEH EPIC MEMES LUL!!!!!!!111!!!!!

the only way to save gura is for her to graduate hololive and to join vshojo as senzawa so she can stop walking on eggshells

>>2857479
BASED

>>2856154
as a former tumblr user everyone fucking knew that song

>>2857552
Problem with that is Gura hates nyanners, sjws, and trannies

>>2857713
You're projecting

>>2856154
No she definitely knows, she's playing dumb in case anyone comes in with some "i've been traumatized" shtick

>>2857404
>freaking out for 30 minutes for tripping over the word clock
Yeah just like the old days dipshit.

>>2857720
Nah, I watch all her streams and have seen all the old stuff. She's also quite racist.

>>2857764
SHE SAID IT'S JUST A WORD!
she said massive cock, by the way.

>>2857792
No you haven't. You don't even know she's personally talked to Nyanners before.

>>2857764
Literally only worried about possibly getting in trouble. It's still there btw since she didn't get in trouble.

>>2857820
Ok tranny

>>2857900
rent free

>>2857861
uh oh her manager is gonna give her a spanker. someone remind me why the ENs treat the manager like their father and not like irrelevant nobodies that work for them?

>>2857934
Because EN Managers apparently have far more say in the going ons of the talents work than JP or ID. Seems was made that way by design because the JP Managers were very frequently disregarded or terminated if the Talents didn't like them (Haachama apparently had 4+, the most recent was an otaku that she didn't like from the get go)

>>2858007
Managers should never have that much control. Upper management in th company? Of course. Middle managers? Fuck no.

>>2857913
You will never be a woman
Fuck off back to twitter

>>2854980
She literally said "cock" in her last stream, what else do you want?

>>2857256
You said Brittany Venti, last message from her about gura was like half a year ago??

I checked her youtube record there wasn't anything new about the issue?

Or did she mentioned Gura from other platform?

Of course she's going to have less live viewers, not everyone can watch her live because of timezones, that's how it's going to be for english vtubers. Her 2 million or so subs are spread across the world in different timezones, but for Pekora's 1 million or so subs they're mostly all in one timezone.

>>2858137
I've found that people like you often have sexual relationships with transexuals

>>2858169
>says cock
>spends half an hour talking about how naughty that was
ohhh ho ho she said a bad word uh oh wowie

>>2858206
You wish. Now kill yourself, freak

>>2858238
What's it like having your anal cavity excavated my a man with breasts?

>>2858169
Watching that stream gives the impression that Gura would be on V-shojo's levels of "comedy" if her manager and Clover weren't strict about what she can and can't say. Thank goodness for that.

>>2858335
Kill yourself and stream it so I can watch

>>2858335
>thank god the Corporates are here to make sure that these people present themselves as my ideal incel girlfriend fantasy instead of letting their own, unique personalities come through
the average holofag

>>2858353
Cope. Your sharkie is shit.

>>2858374
Oh, you are one of those Nyanners fans who thinks "cum" and "pee pee poo poo" is peak comedy, I see. I'm sorry, but I rather they don't become another shitty twitch whore.

>>2858434
You can just enjoy your carefully focus group tested lowest common denominator act. I can't stop you.

>>2855282
I hate children

>>2858335
because she said "cock" once?

Hopefully she gets electrocuted on-stream tomorrow. We could use less she-fags on Youtube.

She isn’t playing more dmc5 rn. That’s why.

gura is boring

>>2858651
>once

>>2858766
True but that's a whole different can of beans

>>2858847
did she say it more than once in that stream?

>>2858914
She said massive cock then somehow pretended it was a slip of the tongue

>>2854907
She got her usual 20,000+ yesterday because SMOL AME

>>2858887
that why people stop watching here like she's just so plain and nothing happens

>>2854907
>>2854980
>>2854980
stop samefagging

and she had 26k and over 500k viewers by the end of her 3 hour stream last night (basically 700k views now). Her sub count went from 2.52m to 2.54m in 24 hours too.

>>2854907
She's going to be eating pizza in her bathtub. I'm waiting for her numbers to skyrocket since she'll be selling her bath water after the stream.

>>2859038

>>2858458
>lowest common denominator.
The irony.

>>2859074
>gamer girl bathwater with toppings

>>2859166
The irony is that you somehow think Gura is above this. you would've been calling her a stupid bitch 7 months ago.

>>2858965
>She said massive cock then somehow pretended it was a slip of the tongue
Because EN management finds the word “problematic”.
>>2859074
>She's going to be eating pizza in her bathtub
Hopefully she doesn’t apologize for it afterward.

>>2854907
Shitty EN management has basically killed HoloEN
They bubble wrapped them to the point where now they're so corporate and dull that they're borderline unwatchable
Pink cat may be bad, but she currently draws in more views with her random bullshit than Ame or Kiara have in months

>>2855434
>giggling like a middle schooler about a cock joke
T-that's kinda cute ngl

>>2854907
The real answer is default Gura has been neutered since new years. Look at how much energy she had in her earlier streams and compare them to now. She still can shine at times, but she's not nearly as entertaining as she was previously.

>>2859196
>The irony is that you somehow think Gura is above this
But I don't.

>>2854907
She kinda feels stuck, like she doesnt play a whole variety of games, most of her streams feel the same, she doesnt ever go outside of gaming, and she seemingly does less and less collabs as time goes on.
I personally dont even watch Gura and even I know she has the tools and simps needed to be higher than she is. If she was more like Calli with the music and Kiara with her variety I think she'd be at 3 mil now.

All she needs is a new outfit where she shows her tummy, get back into ringfit or any dancing game where she huffs and puffs, and see how views double and she reaches 4M subs fast af.

>>2859942
They've all been neutered, but in particular Ame and Gura who both genuinely seem to hate streaming thesedays

>>2860100
>I personally dont even watch Gura and even I know she has the tools and simps needed to be higher than she is. If she was more like Calli with the music and Kiara with her variety I think she'd be at 3 mil now.
But how can she put out videos like her past life, when she has to practically apologize over saying the wrong word today? She probably has some video ideas finished already but cannot upload them because they aren’t deemed appropriate enough. Or maybe she thinks doing rap uploads like in a past life, would reveal too much.

>>2854907
Used to watch Gura a lot, even joined the membership, honestly only for the asmr, but damn her content feels all the same now, I barely even watch her now, I went from all streams to games I’m interested in and now I don’t even look at the screen when I’m “watching” her, I realize I really have to love a game to watch anyone stream unless I find them hilarious or very comforting/ make me feel in peace.

>>2854907
>The billionth Gura numbers thread
>140 posts, 50 IPs
>Posts repeating the same shit for days
>Rampart samefaggotry
Not only you're schizophrenic, you have Alzheimer.

>>2854907
>The billionth Gura numbers thread
>140 posts, 50 IPs
>Posts repeating the same shit for days
>Rampart samefaggotry
Not only you're schizophrenic, you have Alzheimer.

>>2854907
View counts over the past 30 days. For 8 million or more.

>>2860599
>>2860572
>accuses others of having alzheimers when he cant even post on 4chan right
bro your 4chanx?

>>2859289
>>2860599
The worst part is that most of these schizos are nyannerfags and Vshojo shills. Faggots are too scared to post in hlgg, so they hide and repeat their narratives here kek.

>>2855282
https://youtu.be/oMtxwO7sZgk?t=28

>>2861741
So you don’t think holo EN dropped off a bit? Obviously the OP is just hating, but the thread itself has a considerable amount of constructive criticism. It’s not all hatred.

>>2862828
Not the same anon but I do think HoloMyth is kinda losing his charm, maybe gen2 brings new blood and enough change for the girls to stop being lazy and do things different

Sometimes i hate it when Hololive did those pity collabs. If Hololive want to help each other it is ok but sometime it was too forced. Like Hololive EN to Hololive ID, Hololive ID to Holostar. Hololive EN now has the mission to save all the fail projects of Cover. They are only allowed to collab with members has lower subs. That will drag them down.

>>2863805
Almost all the HoloEn girls have less than 900k subs, it's difficult not to collab with someone smaller

>>2854907
EOP viewers are disloyal, simple as

She's cute, but her content is kinda boring.

>>2857208
not france

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She's not well suited to streaming. She has an incredible voice which makes her very good at making song covers and stuff but she's not a very entertaining person, just kind of dry.

>>2855312
>People seem to forget that vtubing is still a small niche in the west compared to Japan. The fact that they're getting the views they are is huge. EN-haters also love to pretend there wasn't a bug in Youtubes live view count that affected everyone at a different rate.
It's not a bug. They stopped counting people using adblock. Some streamers audience just use more or less adblock.

>>2865163
take. your. meds.

>>2865213
This. Joining Hololive was a mistake for her. She was better at uploading memes and songs. Right now she's being restricted to streaming and obviously, that's not where she shines. I don't think going indie is even a solution for her at this point. She should just quit being a vtuber and go back to being a youtuber. If she went back to being Senzawa, I doubt anyone would complain.

>>2854907
>he still doesn't understand the viewbug
She had 50k viewers last night adjusting for it. There were more likes on her stream than the live viewcount.

>>2865395
>If she went back to being Senzawa, I doubt anyone would complain.
She would kill herself if she went back to that painful time of her life

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Here's the reality
>not good at streaming
>the worst chat
>people hype up her singing, when they hear her and are disappointed because her fans are retarded they leave

>>2865627
Then she should just quit being a YouTuber/streamer altogether. If this thing gives her so much pain, then why remain? I'm sure a private life without expectations or obligations attached to life as an entertainer/ public figure is the best for her.

>>2865627
Good. I want her to suffer. It's the only way she can make up for the suffering I felt when SHE left. If she kills herself, she kills herself. That's no problem of mine.

>>2865427
Cope faggot

Anyone can leave a like

Hell, anyone can leave a like even without watching the stream

>>2866071
You're the one coping lmao.

Her VOD views support it, we've known there's a bug since fucking November.

>>2866071
I hope you die slowly and painfully

>>2865839
>it's the usual butthurt cometfag seething that Gura mogs his oshi
Oh boy

>>2866137
>>2866139

This is what happens when you Holoshitters live inside your own bubble, thinking that everyone else is out to get your trash Vtubers

This "bug" never affected Nijisanji, or Vshoujo or any other company

Heck, it doesn't even seem to affect Pekora or Marine

Just accept the honeymoon period is over and that Hololive is falling to irrelevancy

>>2866273
>This "bug" never affected Nijisanji
Who all stream from Japan, dumbass.

>or Vshoujo
They didn't start until after it kicked in.

God you are so stupid.

>>2866400
How the fuck can a "Youtube bug" affect only 1 Branch of 1 company out of a dozen Vtuber companies in Youtube

Imagine the mental gymnastics Holofaggots go through just to attempt to explain that their precious Vtubers aren't irrelevant

Learn to accept that HoloEN was a mistake and waste of money then move on.

>>2866879
>>2855312

>>2865427
Copium on isle 4

>>2866980
>Kuzuha gets 15% viewer drop

>Lamy and Polka get at least 50% drop in viewers

Seems like Holoshitters are unable to retain the interest of their viewers. You're only proving that the Hololive talents are untalented hacks that only managed to coast through because of the brand name


Cope and seethe faggot. And stop posting graphs and numbers that you don't even fucking understand

>>2867188
Ah, ok I get it. (you)

>>2865395
>She was better at uploading memes and songs
She can still do that. If EN management doesn’t like it, she can still do it anyway.
>>2865627
>Gura probably didn’t like drinking, so that means she didn’t like memes and hated herself.
No it doesn’t. Honestly, if anything she would be happier if she didn’t have to worry about what she can and cannot say. EN management is too restrictive.