/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>281774
Evey single time some new media property becomes popular people will chose that they're too afraid of change to learn about it and come up with some copey inductive-reasoning excuse to dismiss the whole thing without getting informed at all.

You show them proof that they're not men and that they're not using voice changers, and also explain that in the case of Hololive or Nijisanji a company holding auditions would ahve no reason to seek out men when they want female talent, and at best they just shut up and don't admit they were talking out of their asses

>implying I'd care if they were actually men
Embrace the illusion, that'st the whole point. The most disgusting fans are the ones who get invested in what their "real life" is like.

I can't believe Oga was a man all along...

>>281774
>>281873
>>281905
>>281992
faggot COPE

those morons bullied Nora the cat because he was a man behind the avatar even though every Japanese fan if him knew that. That's the whole point of babiniku. I hate those EOP fags

>>281774
Fallacious use of flawed concepts like the oral law. Repeat a narrative long enough to enough people and eventually they'll begin to parrot it, snowballing from there, even when it's false most of the time. Everyone with a non-necrotic brain knows what a real voice sounds like.

Babiniku are unironically better and sexier than female vtubers

>the girl pretending to be a boy pretending to be a girl was a boy all along
WTF NO, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

>>282084
Tamaki is wonderful and her art is great. but her obbsesion with traps is strange

Straightfags like this are the reason we can't have cute femboy vtubers. Fuck them.

>>282119
Is it? Is it any stranger than any other mangaka's fixation with one particular trope?

>>281774
You can't just make up people who don't exist and then complain about them here.

>>281873
You have to understand that normies also have their own narratives to protect.

>>281774
Would you rather have more trendhoppers? Its fine if people get filtered

>>281774
It's fringe and unusual so they need a reason to bash it. If a bunch of popular streamers picked up vtubing suddenly you'd see them all talking about how much they love vtubers. Normies only like what they're told to like.

>>282119
Just like tomboys are the top partners for heterosexual males, traps are the top partners for heterosexual females. Think about it.

Who cares all of you are cancer, both the haters and fans

>>282229
Anon why are you still here
this is the containment board for vtuber posters you need to understand this

>>282185
But a bunch of popular streamers did start doing it, even if it's an ironic meme for them or whatever.

>>282158
http://1900hotdog.com/2020/10/fucking-day-hololive/

Here's roughly what normies think of the whole thing. Now, this goes for the "child rapists" factor and not the "homosexuals" factor, but I'm pretty sure it should bring that up too.

This is very normie, mainstream "informative comedy", on the level of CollegeHumor, Cracked and Dorkly (and in fact written by two of Cracked's very prolific actors, one being Seanbaby).

>>282789
That's such a weird way of interpreting it, he is completely missing the actually real and troubling aspects of the relationships between vtubers and viewers for some sensationalist takes about it being some kind of conspiracy to drag children unknowingly into a sex thing.

>>282789
Good lord, you weren't kidding about the CollegeHumor thing, the whole article felt like a timewarp back to the writing style of the 2000's. Glad I was never interested in comedy as a profession. It always moves on, and you either cash out and live a cushy Seinfeld retirement or you end up writing articles for websites that get maybe a hundred clicks a day.

>>283463
There's a specific style of argument employed by the authors in question that I wish there was a name for: they purposefully flex how little they know about the topic in an effort to showcase that they're unbiased about it.

>>281905
>Embrace the illusion, that'st the whole point. The most disgusting fans are the ones who get invested in what their "real life" is like
this

>>282191
The closer analogue to tomboys is basedboys. And in this case, it's absolutely untrue. Women hate basedboys, they generally want direction. Though, basedboys might work out dating tomboys.

>>283923
onions
basedboy
onions sauce
>fml

>>282789
>Needless to say, this is all way more popular than you think — every video in the hundreds of thousands of views, many in the millions — and more profitable than you could ever guess.
seething

I just think it'd be nice to erase the word parasocial from people's brains

>>283923
who the fuck is a basedboy nanora

>>282789
>an actual furry in the comment section
I like to think normalfag don't just stumble into these sites and they're just for other kind of weird people.

>>284039
Work it out.

>>284039
A boy who is based

>>284011
Nah, it's an apt descriptor. But it's being used as a buzzword nowadays.

>>284058
based on what
>>284052
Is this another term for le epic sieg heiling clowns?

>>284078

>>284011
It's kind of odd how much it gets brought up in relation to vtubers specifically, as if its not something that applies to almost kinds of media personalities. Even if it is what is going on you would never see someone harping on about people who love some pop singer or tv star having a parasocial relationship.

>>281774
who fucking cares, don't tell them you like that shit, stop seeking validation from them if they're going to shit on something you like. spend less time on them, more time reaching out to people that share your interests rather than trying to convince others that are immediately going to throw bullshit at you.

and if ALL those people you reach out to suck for some reason (doubtful but possible), work on yourself and lead by example.

>>282789
Why the fuck is society so perverted? Why does everything have to be about sex to these people?

>>284095
>it's para, so it must be something bad
>anime? that weird thing? it applies to them, right?
>what do you mean celebrity worship? it's just fan things
Probably the normalfag thought process.

>>284127
Keep in mind the "anti-pedo game journalists" that were arrested for possession and solicitation some years ago.

>>284078
Let me spell it out for you.

>>282789
>”its cartoons, so it must be appealing to children" in current year

>>282008
Go back

>>281774
your average person instinctively absolutely loathes outsider social reject groups like hardcore anime fans, so the idea that the people who watch vtubers are all being duped by overweight men with voice changers is hilarious to them. people just love the idea that groups they see as socially below them are delusional in some way

>>283463
Saying something is for pedophiles or supports pedophilia is just an incredibly easy way to get uniformed people with no stake in the matter on your side.

>>284150
There's a ton of epic holy crusaders against western degeneracy that get arrested for rape and pedophilia as well, hell, the head polish anti-gay guy was arrested for a gay cocaine orgy

>>284157
I don't get it.

>>281774
>You know they're all men with voice changers, right? Heh. Stop being in denial
I ask them if they want to see my roommates folder

>>284087

>>281774
even if it were true, so what? anime waifus are created and and animated by men, does that change anything?

>>284864
>anime waifus are created and and animated by men, does that change anything?
That is like saying a women was created and rasied by her father so who cares if "she" has a penis

>>282789
Jesus fucking christ, this is headache inducing. Normies have a mental illness.

>>284807
He's talking about Japanese people. Women hate them.

>>284134
It's always been like that. Functionally, there is very little difference between having a waifu and a celebrity crush, except having a waifu is considered less socially acceptable.

>>284961
>Women hate them.
Anime and Kpop turned all the zoomer girls into rice burners

>>284127
Like 50% of the posts on this board are about sex lmao

>>284065
It offers very little to the discussion and is usually just dropped like "aha, the thing you like is parasocial, therefore i debunked it"

>>282789
This article is basically correct, why is everyone seething so hard?

>>284513
Like how everyone on /pol/ jerks off to extreme hentai in their spare time

>>283823
I think the name is 'argument from ignorance'. That their view on it is superior because knowing things about it is for the very people they're against.

>>285131
/pol/ is one big cognitive dissonance central so that is not surprising

>>284513
>>284150
>>285131
This.
There's a name f or it, too.

>>285106
They let you out of your cell to post on 4chan, Dr. Pizza?

>>285131
And they're all really weirdly obsessed with black men's penises

>>285184
>This article is accurate
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO I BET YOU'RE A PEDO PEDO PEDO
What's stuck in your craw?

>>285203
a stormfag walked into one vtuber thread and people told him something to the tune "this is a thread you should've left", he misread it as "this is a lefty thread" and started spamming interracial gay porn because "it's what leftists like". where did he get so much gay porn?

>>285259
I'm just sick of watching actual pedos bitch and moan about pedophilia.
The article is full of projection from people who are historically pedophiles themselves. Agreeing with it reflects worse on you than it does on it.

>>285259
>This article is accurate
>The article is bitching that cartoon avatars are the same as pedophilia even if the woman behind it is 40 years old
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT I'M PROJECTING
Cope, pedo.

>>285307
>a stormfag
wow I haven't heard that one in like 6 years

>>284840

>>282789
>author proud of not knowing a thing about what he's talking about
>t-think of the children!
>people praising the author for good journalism
>actual furry in the comments
>they're all male and using voice changers
This is just bait. Nobody is that retarded.

>>285346
>from people who are historically pedophiles themselves
This isn't really a thing unless you mean the specific people that wrote this article (who aren't journalists as such anyway).

>>285366
you didn't see the thread yesterday where they showed up to simp for china bc it's against human rights lmao

>>285184
Bardbot is so fucking based. When tumblr was going down he just spammed loli on his account

>>285307
I want to belieb

>>281774
its not about normies its about retards that feel the need to hold opinion on things they dont care and/or know about.

>>285444
>wed up to simp for china bc it's against human rights lmao
That was probably me I have posted several times before I have no reason to hate or even dislike China. Also when is the last time you have been on /pol/? They hate China even more than Coco simps because China secretly control reddit and cheated orange man out of the election

>>285346
>>285361
But you're the ones randomly condemning me and accusing me of pedophilia for no reason.
By your own logic, doesn't that make you pedophiles?

>>285555
What an idiotic post to waste quads on.

>>285555
based quads

>>281774
Nothing wrong with this. It's just a sign for you that you need to cut ties with that person for being an absolute fucking brainlet.

>>285653
thanks

>>285555
fucking wasted

>>285346
>>285361
The article doesn't even mention pedophila. The OP didn't mention pedophila either. You just started talking about how you're not a pedophile without prompting. Why do you keep bringing up pedophilia? Is there something you want to share?

>>285555
impressive numerals for a based post

>>285722
The article explicitly mentions pedophilia multiple times, culminating with an allegation that it's a scheme to prey on children. You are just an orangeposter.

>>281774
I mean there are a few that are 100% guys, and a rotten apple spoils the whole bunch as the saying goes

>>285106
The article positions it as if this is some kind of trap setup to drag children into watching them with innocent and cute cartoons and then hit them with some sex thing to somehow suddenly make them start forking over their pocket money? In reality they aren't really all that interested in that demographic and it isn't where the money is coming from. The money comes from males in their 20s or 30s who are being sold a temporary respite from loneliness. While there may be some content that could be considered erotic in nature in the streams themselves that is nowhere near the primary point. Fans might be jacking it to the characters most of that explicitly pornographic content is produced by fans themselves outside of the streams.

>>285555
/pol/'s pretty ambivalent about China. On the one hand they're enemies of the West, on the other hand they're enemies of the international jew. Hard to decide which takes precedence

>>285831
based

>>285760
Pedophilia is not mentioned once. It mentions the concern that sexual content is being marketed to children, but that's a different thing. It's pretty normal concern for an older guy who has the mindset of cartoons=for kids.
You're seriously projecting super hard. No one accused you of being a pedophile until you randomly started accusing everyone else of being one.
The fact that you pre-emptively lashed out against nonexistent accusations makes me think that you might actually be a pedo.
>>285831
The content isn't pornographic but jacking it is 100% the primary point. Look at any thread on this board, or other boards, or the youtube comments, or reddit. Everyone's just thinking about sex all the time. It isn't Robert Brockway's fault for noticing that. His main flaw is assuming it's horny children watching rather than horny manchildren.

>>285922
It's explicitly claimed that it's basically a child-grooming ring.

>>285943
You might be schizophrenic in addition to being a pedo

>>285922
I mean given the target demographic its inevitable that a lot of people will want to sexualise the characters, its a bunch of nerds in their 20s and 30s. But to make out as if that is all there is to it doesn't really seem accurate.

Do you not see people arguing for hours over who the best singer is or bitching because they are playing minecraft for the thousandth time, complaining they are lonely or worried because their favorite hasn't streamed in a while, getting emotional over some "important" event? The reason people even want to sexualise these characters specifically is because of the personalities they make a connection with in the streams.

>>286018
i think its just the skitzo thing mainly because we have a large amout of SEA here and good lord is the skitzo high

>>285433
i mean they are that retarded look at every other boards take on anime atleast one fag unironically believes all vtubers are somehow trannys and anime is a tranny thing and will defend that absolutely wrong oppinon until he dies

>>285100
yeah i think its too often used as a dismissal instead of a founding point for why this parasocial arrangement is good or bad there are positive parasocial relationships and there are nightmare ones

>>286070
That's all true. I just think it's obvious that sexual attraction is a primary motive most of the time and it's silly to pretend otherwise. The personal connections come later. Like with titty streamers, you can say you like their personality and really mean it but everyone still knows you came for the boobs.
An outsider looking into the subculture is going to see all the sexual stuff first and foremost, because it's so present in the fanbase.

>>286213
>That's all true. I just think it's obvious that sexual attraction is a primary motive most of the time and it's silly to pretend otherwise
You're likely a board tourist. The most popular active Japanese vtuber is Korone, who also has one of the highest amounts of art and the lowest percentage of porn in that art.

>>285000
i hate to blame women because its an easy out
but unironicly its women who see anime as a fucking nerd subculture for men and werid girls who dont bathe and therefore they use their influence in their friend circles to make it socially taboo to be too open about your likes or dislikes of specific characters.


meanwhile they enjoy a certain immunity for being obbessed over inane bullshit celebrities and e celebes

>>286269
>use their influence in their friend circles to make it socially taboo
What you guys told me anime was cool now and all zoomys and "ironic weebs" are watching it??

>>286213
for some of them yes for others its more of an escapeism from those adult concepts of sexuality so thick its in your face 24/7 or its a friend simulator

>>286312
i mean its cool on a base level to talk about the series but if you know a character by name or a fucking obscure pusdo hentai unless you are friends witha fujo she is probaly gonna cringe at the very least

>>281774
>le voice changers maymay
You know it's pretty obvious when someone uses it right?

>>286312
also
>ironic weeb
>weeb
>genuine otaku
learn the difference it might save your life
also vtubers get the stigma that while most young women think onlyfans is cool and worth it these girls dont sell their body just a personality and voice

>>286157
That's just regular neo/pol/ posting. They say it's tranny shit because they don't like it, and since they don't like it that means it has to be tranny related. You can't argue with people like that, it's a lost cause.
It's actually amazing how an anime site did a 180 and suddenly hates anime. Even /a/ went to shit.

>>281774
Do you realize how dumb the average person is? Most of them are helpless dumbfucks who can't even into basic critical thinking. Things are truly this bad, anon.

>>286392
Not at all, especially if you are doing a female falsetto on top the software. Download a free trial and mess around if you don't believe me

>>286399
The absolute majority of women don't have an onlyfans or maybe tried it like once. The absolute majority of those who do, have zero revenue or exposure. The absolute majority of those who do, account for about 0.2% percent of revenue. It's a way overblown problem.

>>286255
>Board tourist
This board is 4 days old faggot
>Korone
Krone is one of the least sexualized holos but even she has a large part of her traffic from people wanting to fuck her.
Seriously, I don't know how you can pretend like vtuber fan interest isn't mostly sexual attraction / simping. If it was asexual appreciation male vtubers wouldn't be so unpopular by comparison.

>>286423
What software they usin' tho

>>286392
I linked a Gura fly me to the moon rendition in one such argument and multiple people told me it's one of the most obvious voice changers they've seen.

>>286434
>women on onlyfans suffer from the same issue as men on dating apps
heh

>>286439
Voice mod, MorphVox, Voxal any of those will get the job done

>>286464
they could just be salty fags who dont want you to post it again so they tell you its a voice changer to get you to fuck off

>>286437
The core of this board is migrants from /jp/. The split on genders amongst viewers is close to 55/45 or so. The girls are a lot more popular because of idol culture, they're promoted infinitely more, they're literally banned from collabing with men.

You don't know what you're talking about.

>>281774
Literally who gives a shit about normalniggers.

>>286434
i mean ive had women in my life think it was a worth while career supplement then again that was before the professional thots started doing it and basically cut out the armatures i wouldnt be surprised if it did crash in that way

>>286510
yeah i remember that poll i also remember the femanons who fucking dressed up for ame

>>286478
It's less men on dating app and more the fact that you need to promo yourself extremely hard somewhere that ISN'T onlyfans. Some C-list celebrity made one and instantly became a top earner.

>>286523
its a contempory topic of conversation because they invade our space to shit all over it

>>281905
Idk anon, I don't mind learning about someone's roommate if it's posted, but I won't actively seek it out at all.

>>286542
It's actually not a poll, it's youtube stats

>>286423
Yo can't sing with those things

>>286574
yo yo yo who needs to sing when you can spit fire

>>284078
>being this new
Fuck off back to R*ddit, nigger.

>>286558
So? They won't go away, they never do.

>>286523
I just want to not always have to walk on eggshells and triple-check everything I say and have a normal conversation about things instead. I was made fun of for having Bastion on my Steam account because it's some anime thing back in 2013.

>>282789
This doesn't strike me as normie so much as it does soi R*dditor

>>286594
>>286657
It's painfully obvious that you made both of these posts, which are equally cringe. Can't even spell "onions", and bringing it up as a non-sequitur. What, are you afraid of sushi, fatass?

>>285106
It's written in a cringey and retarded way.
There's no sincerity in the article at all; it's all hyperbole, sarcasm and snark.

>>286683
onions

>>286696
normalfags are incapable of sincerity, since they've been conditioned from birth to do nothing but consume and work 9-5 for their masters. If they were capable of sincerity, there could be a revolution, you know? So they must not be allowed to be sincere.

>>286725
Nah I think normal fags just have a different reality videogames =sportsball
Youtubers and twitch= Hollywood and tv
Anime= cartoons
Any in topic debate= Needs to relate to real world politics or some shit

>>286725
I sometimes wonder what other peoples' definitions of sincerity is.
Where I come from, it's a confident guy who plays sports, bought a house with his gf (and soon to be wife), goes fishing, and prefers to spend time with the lads and away from the computer.
That doesn't mean they're not sincere.

>>286683
>can't even spell "onions"
>he doesn't know about wordfilters
You have to go back
And no, I love sushi.

>>286437
I feel like you are conflating things a bit. Things don't need to be about wanting to fuck for you to prefer listening to a cute anime girl and "simping" isn't necessarily sexual. Look at the times these girls get the most money it's when they have a birthday, they just did a big concert, they reach a new subscriber goal, they have their 3D debut, big milestones in their career. The fanbase is attached to the personalities and seeing them grow as much as anything else. And the popularity of sexualizing them derives from that attachment fostered in the streams. People see some cute and funny anime girl in a clip on their recommendations and they go watch the stream. They aren't being drawn in by some girl bending over showing off her ass when she is writing someones name on the whiteboard for donating.

>>286437
>This board is 4 days old faggot.
Look at this newfag. It's 6 days old.

>>286864
>intentionally misspelling words to bypass wordfilters that exist because a fat retard made up a retarded theory about how a bean makes men women instead of racist and it got spammed into complete insanity
fuck off to /pol/

>>286954
>intentionally misspelling
who said anything about misspelling sóyboy

>"They're probably fat neckbeards behind the camera."
>"They're probably ugly girls."
>"How can you even like watching other people play video games?"
>"You must be a lonely virgin if you enjoy this."
>"Why do they all look and act like children?"

>>287010
short history of the word.

there was a fat retard that lost custody of his children in a divorce that was selling fake shit like masculinity supplements and colloidal silver. he made up a theory that a bean makes men into women and that is why they fail to live up to his ideal as the proper aryan male (fat retard who lost custody of children in a divorce) and you need to take his epic masculinity supplements to become like the fat retard

also the fat retard's masculinity supplements contain the girlification bean

>>281774
>Why are normies like this?
Most of the time it's other weebs who hate vtubers because they're 3DPD or some other bullshit reason.

>casually mention anything vtube-related
Why though?

>All men pretending to be girls.
>When there's fucking money to be made
don't be stupid.

>>286954
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>287052
Why are you seething so hard over a male?

Is it because you are one and don't want to be?

>>286604
That's the sort of defeatist mentality that leads to no one gatekeeping any more, that's why retards get away with posting -oomer, wojak, annoying orange, pepe and twitter screencaps nowadays.

>>281774
Some of them like Artemis are
Most are legitimate women though

>>287052
>tfw Alex Jones name is verboten by some

>>287156
i'm making fun of a fat retard and a group of fat retards who for some reason decided that his embarrassing theory is absolute law. you are a part of said group of fat retards. that is your home. fuck off there. no one cares.

>>287197
Oh I thought he was talking about Joe Rogan lol

>>287197
the fact that he is immensely fat and immensely stupid is paramount to this conversation. surely ubermensch pills would give him a normal weight and normal intelligence at least. and yet.

>>287216
joe rogan is not fat

>>287216
hold on, you literally didn't know alex jones made up the whole thing as a grifting scheme?

>>286778
I noticed that too, I didn't understand people discussing celebs until chuubas came along.

Also yeah why does every faggot over 30 become a political expert these days

>>287207
Have you ever thought that maybe you're the one who doesn't belong here, and that you'll never be a real woman?

>>287252
>why does every faggot over 30 become a political expert these days
Always has been. Politics is basically a shared culture. "Let's shittalk the current president" is a topic universally accepted basically everywhere, even here.

>>287276
does anyone know what the fuck is this retarded stormfag talking about? is this like a pyramid scheme thing where you have to defend the honor of the masculinity supplements online?

>>287225
The amount of snark in your posts just makes me think more and more that you're a tranny and a R*dditor desu
You probably even browse lolcow or crystalcafe

>>287248
>alex jones made up the whole thing
There are studies about sóys effects on testosterone going back to the 50s

>>287317
with this many misses i would simply stop swinging.

>>287279
>Let's shittalk the current president
But I liked the last President, even when he was in office.
Based 45.

>>287320
I, too, cite studies that failed to replicate.

>>287279
You'd think people would get tired after the first couple of switcheroos and realise the whole thing is retarded theatre.
Maybe it's just an ingroup/outgroup thing

>>287372
no one gives a shit sóyboy

>>287399
Based

How is aqua so cute?

>>287354
Well, you have no one to blame for that embarrassing blunder but yourself. Last halfway decent US president was... what, Carter? And that was mostly because of his post-presidential work.

>>287382
America has a somewhat unique situation in that regard because of the red tribe/blue tribe split that's almost 50-50, where people care about politics for literally no other reason other than to own the libs or the magats.

try explaining the concept of rolling coal to a Dutchman. He would call you insane.

>leftoid schizoposting
a true gem everytime
>>281774
because it's an old meme and they think that it's hard to prove otherwise because anonymity and voice changers or something
of course that's SEVERELY underestimating the autism of people who watch this type of stuff and we know the identity of almost every single one of them, but they'd have to know what they're talking about to know this stuff

>>287434
two retards searching for "trannies" under their beds inbetween being scared of a fucking sauce qualifies solidly for schizoposting

>>287459
I take it you are not every familiar with the western scene

>>287399
I love this pendulum between "proven wrong yet again by based science" and "science is inherently judaic and no one cares"

>>287424
Rolling coal is based though

>>281873
low quality normalfags only care about things that are already popular. if it's not popular yet, admitting that they like it might damage their social standing.

>>287527
Yup deal with it

>>287545
i don't think it's that deep. there might be something related to the backlash effect and the pecking order hierarchy bullshit - unironically, toxic masculinity stuff, "by doing this you have failed to be a proper male"

>>287424
>ree drumpf bad
He’s not perfect but he’s by all accounts the best president since Carter, if not Coolidge

>>287649
This is not the board for political discussion so i won't go deep into critique of the le epic caesar rubicon sieg heil god-emperor rubicon man, but congratulations on your failed coup and your plan-trusting lmao

>>287634
>there might be something related to the backlash effect and the pecking order hierarchy bullshit - unironically, toxic masculinity stuff, "by doing this you have failed to be a proper male"
that's all about social standing though. they kinda know theirs is on shaky feet because they honestly have little of interest to offer, so they play it safe at all times and only ever engage in activities that have been deemed acceptable by the mainstream.

>>281774
>Why are normies like this?
Why give a shit?

>>287700
I don't feel like it's that way. There is a pecking order there to an extent, but not necessarily directly correlated to the media's popularity (plus, how many normies watch "whatever is on tv"?)

For example, I had one of these conversations in a server for a 4X game, and not even one of the popular ones.

>>287672
>le epic

>>287797
cringe president for a fail country. a fitting end.

>>286510
>they're literally banned from collabing with men.
Think really hard with your coom brain to figure out why this is a thing in idol culture.

>>287849
Hololive barely even pretends to be an idol group any more, that's the thing.

>>287700
True dat. People who don't have the confidence to show what they like hang onto the most acceptable options not to be excluded.

>>286902
Sure, they are building parasocial relationships and building sexual desire from that but at the end of the day that is what a majority of Vtuber audiences want ultimately. They aren't hoping to be taught a new craft or be educated on the latest in politics. They want to unwind their particular kind of sexual frustration by finding a Vtuber that they are attracted to. Trying to pretend it is about more than that is dishonest at best and delusional at worst.

>>287649
Coolidge was a mediocre president in all respects, half-assing practically everything and mishandling flood relief in a way that would make Bush's Katrina look like a flash of strategic genius.

>>287911
You're acting nearly identically to the normies in the OP, claiming an egregiously wrong thing and then insisting that people who say you're wrong are simply in denial.

>>288086
meant to reply to >>288037, misclick

>>287884
The same sperging occurs with twitch thots.

>>283463
>some sensationalist takes about it being some kind of conspiracy to drag children unknowingly into a sex thing.
>when /pol/ finds your hobby

>>288107
What did I say that was wrong in >>288037 and explain exactly why.

>>286613
>I was made fun of for having Bastion on my Steam account because it's some anime thing back in 2013
grow a spine

>>281774
Easy, just show their roommates to them.

>>288133
kind of inherently funny that the main reason /pol/ types aren't crusading against anime as pedophilic degeneracy is because so many of them are obsessed with it so they'd lose like 40% of their audience easily.

in america anyway. not really a thing in my country so there's a huge "anime avatar = tranny pedo" thing

>>288193
I was deeply offended by that but in the "how can people be so stupid on my watch" sense. just a funny anecdote to bring up

>>285722
>That’s actually a pretty standard anime loophole for creepy nerds trying to confuse their FBI agent.
>Here’s the debut of a worryingly young-looking were-shark girl.

Autistic?

>>286437
I think people can like the aesthetics of cute anime girls without wanting to fuck the girls. It's a "moe" thing. This is an image board so people tend to sexualize shit more often than most people would.

Also a lot of male vtubers are competitive with female ones. Holostars aren't big because most hololive girls don't colab with them and a big draw of vtubers is them interacting with eachother. Nijisanji male vtubers can interact with female ones and there's a lot of successful male vtubers in there.

>>288133
>>288212
>pol/ types aren't crusading against anime as pedophilic degeneracy
You are generalizing too much and are, ironically, committing the same type of error the man in the article did. Some do and some don't and they hardly get along even on their own board. CollegeHumor is also about as far away from /pol/ as you can get. Lefties and righties have both been guilty of committing that idiocy.

>>288212
/pol/ types don't go after anime as much because the far left seems to hate it and jews don't run the industry as hard as they do hollywood or the western game industry.

>>288212
Kinda curious where that is, I was under the impression anime hating was primarily a burger thing.

>>281774
I just show them the doxx pics of my chuubas I saved, to prove they're female (only the pic, not the source so they can't use it for anything in case they actually cared).
Say what you want about doxxniggers, but they at least served the purpose of proving my chuubas aren't trannies.

>>288239
I see. I thought you were the OP. You can't change normalfags. Just do your best so that newfags don't end up normalfags.

>>288280
There's some backlash for sure among statue twitter and the like, but "zoomer-oriented" types are fully content with anime girls with black hats with skulls on them.

>>288286
>because the far left seems to hate it
Keyword "seems" here probably. You need to have literally zero exposure to what people online to the left of, like, Obama are into. That would require spending years hating people you don't know anything about. No one would do that. Right?

>>282191
No, it doesn't work like that. Effeminate traits are just the mark of a decadent and useless person.

>>288289
I'm Russian, actually. Russian fascism grows in part out of football hooliganism and skinhead gangs in general, so there's a lot of hypermasculinity obsession. If you're a man, and your avatar is a cartoon woman, you're a tranny (woman) pedophile (cartoon).


American culture war shit gets imported here though, so anime avatar sieg heilers are becoming more common.

>>288444
I'm the OP, yes.

>>288393
This does not work because they literally just say that's all fake. As I said, backlash effect. I was more curious about why normies make this assumption /to begin with/.

>>288562
>I'm the OP, yes.
I see.
>curious about why normies make this assumption /to begin with/
I think it's >>281873. As much as people say otherwise, anime-style stuff (or even cartoons in general) is still niche and shouldn't be popular in their minds.

>>288527
Tы в кaких eбeнях живeшь? Ceйчac y кaждoгo втopoгo aнимe нa aвe, вceм пoхyй.

>>288393
>saving doxx pics
>caring about people's opinions who miss the point so hard
They don't care, they only hate it because they can't handle seeing a cute anime girl.

>>288562
Also
>normies
It's normalfags.

>>288449
So the people complaining that Uzaki is pedobait and that Nagatoro doesn't look enough like an African American are...?

>>287672
>implying I’m a Q tard
Also thinking what happened was anything more than a riot is fucking stupid
What kind of coup involves no firearms whatsoever
You’re a retard and so are the rioters

>>288665
Я гoвopю o мaмкиных зигyнaх. Уpoды Дeдa Mopoзa и пpoчaя пoдoбнaя швaль.

>>285017
And that's fucking subarashii. Not all of them, though.

>>288759
Weird twitter users that I don't care about, some of which are false-flaggers.

How does that have anything to do with the far left I don't know, unless you think that SJWs are far left any more than the ambient disaffected student.
Literally the sole backlash against Nagatoro in leftist communities I'm in is that some people complain that Nanashi toned the comic down way too much from the web novel, which is an opinion I disagree with but respect.

>>288723
Normie is the original term and it predates 4chan by, I think, a good decade.

>>288763
>What kind of coup involves no firearms whatsoever
a failed one. failed coup for a failed president of a failed country

>>288562
>>288706
Worked in my case. Than again, thoise were just my normalfag friends who are pretty oblivious to the whole thing, not actual antis. The commonon response to first connatact with vtubers was still "they're just men with vioce changers" though.

God help us if there were actually a voice changer that could make me sound like Suisei

>>288165
The onus of proof is still on you. If there was any amount of truth in what you're saying, sexual content would be what carries people to the top, but Choco and Mel lag very solidly behind; instead, it is Korone, Gura, Fubuki and Pekora that rule, establishing the already known fact that what people look for first and foremost is primarily entertainment value.

>>288928
You’re still a massive fucking retarding gobbling up the establishment slop instead of actually using an ounce of critical thinking, though whether you even have any is a question unto itself

>>289189
your reality TV star and real estate mogul is the epitome of establishment slop

>>289218
And your old white career politician isn’t?
The irony is so thick you could use it as a trampoline

>>289189
>simping for the reddit wallman while accusing others of lacking critical thinking

>>289026
To be fair there are quite a few. None of them are really popular though.

>>289250
Who are you talking about? You need to be much more specific than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgm_f6pO0uM

>>282789
Immagine how much of a porn-addicted coomer you'd have to be to take your first look at Hololive and think "this is for jerking off"

>>287382
They switch out usually every 8 years, meaning there's always new retards who never saw the trick before.

>>289330
She can't keep getting away with it.

>>289620
there are countries that are not the US. we're going into our third decade with no switching, systematically denied opportunities for switching, and insistent claims that anyone who wants any opportunity for switching is secretly gay leftist filth.

>>290094
You spell like a faggot.

>>281774
One of the very first stories about vtubers that a lot of normalfags heard of was this guy. Unfortunately most people stick to the very first thing they hear about something and never look any deeper, so when they think of vtubers they'll think of this guy

>>281774
>"You know they're all men with voice changers, right? Heh. Stop being in denial."

They must be influenced by some reading:

https://www.amazon.com/Dads-Queen-VTubers-Vol-manga-ebook/dp/B08BX7TC34

>>282789
Do they really...

>>281774
>Why are normies like this?
Hololive's current audition process is lookng for English singing talent, that includes men

>>281873
Just remember people opposed the concept of a written language at some point

>>282789
>I’m not going to extrapolate out how much they make a year doing this, and say it’s too much. That’s not my business.
Why even write an article if you don't want to spread information?
Youtube takes 50% anyway

>But I will say: You can hold a full-time job in the US today and barely clear 12k in a year
What does that have to do with V-tubers? He just sounds jealous someone found a way to make more money

>>281774
>>290971
I thought normies loves trannies?

>>285922
>jacking it is 100% the primary point
There's definitely a sexual component in the sense that they're supposed to be cute (and sometimes have sexualized designs too) so male viewers will be attracted to them and simp. But to say that "jacking it is 100% the primary point" is silly. I refuse to believe people are watching Korone with a raging boner or wank it to Fubuki's streams (except a for few sad coomers during ASMR I guess).

>>296997
Korone literally forces moans out as she jumps around in the games she plays. If you’ve ever seen her irl streams she acts nothing like that because it would look retarded outside of a sexy anime avatar

>>282789
It reads like satire.

>>282789
This article is pretty accurate, in terms of the girls pretending it’s one thing when it all inevitably turns back around into a sex thing again

>>297040
> Korone literally forces moans out
She literally doesn't. She squeaks in order to be "le kawaii hecking wholesome doggo", but if you think that's sexual, that's on you and your projecting mind.

>>297040
> sexy anime avatar
If you were talking about, say, Choco Mel and Marine you'd have a point. But since this is Korone we're talking about: holy shit please chemically castrate yourself NOW. You're a danger to society.

>>297040
Here's your (you). Now take your bait someplace else.

>>288759
Oh god people aren't actually saying that about Nagatoro are they?

>>286437
>ven she has a large part of her traffic from people wanting to fuck her.
You pulled that out of your ass.

> I don't know how you can pretend like vtuber fan interest isn't mostly sexual attraction / simping. If it was asexual appreciation male vtubers wouldn't be so unpopular by comparison.
Male viewers prefer cutesy female anime avatars? Must be 100% sexual!

>>297584
they haven't seen the swim team tan-lines yet anon

>>297584
>twitter users can't even be bothered to check what they're mad about
Yes they do. Those idiots actually thing Nagatoro is supposed to be black.

>>288449
>That would require spending years hating people you don't know anything about.
Sounds like the average right winger to me.

>>286437
Homo poster pretending to be impartial. No wonder your arguments sound retarded, you're trying to reason backwards. It isn't that the males who use the vtuber gimmick couldn't hack it as a regular male streamer, no it must be that vtuber fans are all sexual degenerates that watch just too coom.

>>287173
That audition general is a cancer, it only attracts the twitter trash onto this board who refuse to integrate.

I remember seeing a face leak of all or most of the Hololive JP girls at one point. They're all women, and some of them are reasonably attractive.

>>297762
>a black girl with Michael Jackson disease
It may be the most progressive show on right now.

>>282789
guys, there are comments...
check this one!
IS. THIS. NIGGA. FOR. REAL?

>>300285
It's like poetry, it rhymes..

a lot of the girls get doxxed all the time, they are real girls, why does somebody need to hate on something just because it's different?

>>281774
Because they're smarter than you

>>300285
>an unironic furry "cyberpunk" (what the fuck) abomination with PTSD can't handle anime girls
this is too good holy fuck

>>281774
Usually they'd ask "Are they using a voice changer?" and then i'll just show them some of the Holostar and Nijisanji boys who can do female voice on a whim.

>>301215
>some of the Holostar and Nijisanji boys who can do female voice on a whim
Prove it

>>286567
there was a poll done for hlgg and it came out about 70/30

>>297040
She's literally barking like a dog

>>285922
If jacking it is the point then why aren't all vtubers just doing the same thing Project melody is.

>>305210
https://youtu.be/w9Mpuk-5wQU

>>282789
https://twitter.com/brockway_llc
>Senior Editor Cracked.com
>That beard and glasses
I would bet that the fucker jacked off to CP.

>>281774
What the hell kind of voice changers can do that?

>>310351
That shit strains your voice though. If someone could actually keep it up without dropping for a 3 hour stream I'd supa them just out of respect

>>282789
Is this guy stuck in pre-2010 internet lmao. This reads exactly like the old "anime is just hentai" tongue in cheek take except it's not tongue in cheek.

I don't think this is the normie viewpoint. This is the "grifter journalist" take. Most normies just see this as another anime thing they don't understand lmao.

>>310914
Oh god he actually looks like a pedo

>>281774
>>casually mention anything vtube-related
>>casually mention
>Implying this happens
I mean maybe if you weren't some cringe-y autist actively trying to bring up and talk about chuubas in normal society, you wouldn't reinforce the normie presumptions around the industry.

>>311445
it happens when you are talking about content you are currently watching hell i have freinds who watch pewdiepie in their late 20 and other things like that then again i dont really like to talk about what i watch

>>287634
>saying "toxic masculinity" unironically
Think you got lost here on your way to Twitter.

>>289189
>>289218
>>289250
But I pick up this, away! Because I don't care about it on a board dedicated to pretend 2d streamers.

>>281774
>mentioning vtubers to normies
ngmi

>>285433
>Nobody is that retarded.

>>311610
The way people use "twitter" as a catch-all synonym for "SJW" because just saying "SJW" is a reliable mark of a retard is funny considering that the likes of Fuentes and Greer are not only active, but verified on it.

Do you have any other academic terms for men being told "you need to be xyz or you're a failure as a man" when xyz is not even sensible or beneficial?

>>282789
>vtubers literally living rent free on the writer head and making him seethe beyond boiling point
Nice. I hope we're still a long time away from vtuber shit becoming popular with normies. It would become a tranny fest. They ruin everything they touch.

>>315430
You are a cretin with a buzzword-riddled sponge where your brain was supposee to be if not for generations of inbreeding.
He noticed a thing he could shit on for views and did so. People in replies here care about the topic more than he ever could.

>>282789
>This article might have just ruined my relationship!
>Saw my fiance watching anime (which I am totally cool with, even if he stares at their boobies, because I am a COOL girlfriend) that seemed a little weird. Here is our conversation.
>“Hey baby, what are you watching?”
>“Oh, it’s this thing called V-tubing”
>At this point, I am slightly anxious but not worried.
>“What’s the website called?”
>“Hololive”
>“W-wh-what do you mean?” My brain is on fire. Is my man watching weird porn with that alien dick thing?
>He says he didn’t know there were porn bits, he just thought it was cute and innocent. I have either pulled him back from the abyss or uncovered a very strange (but maybe still valid?) kink.
>I will update as soon as this story develops.

>>315478
kek you're actually seething holy shit

>>285106
>"Hololive is a collection of real women operating digital cartoon puppets whose identities are controlled by an online talent agency,"
Is correct
>" and whose primary job is to help nerds who have disassociated with reality have an interactive orgasm."
Is not correct.
Thats the main issue with the article. The implication that if you enjoy a medium is because you want to have sex with its characters. Its the same argument for any anime featuring an underage girl.
Do you want to fuck vin diesel when you watch fast and furious?

>>315499
No wonder you're so bad at understanding normal human interaction, holy shit. You have no theory of mind.

There are trannies under your bed right now. Better burn the whole house down.

>>315518
Ah, I was wondering what about my silly post triggered you so much.
It's because I made fun of trannies lmao

>>315518
Fuck trannies.
Fuck niggers.
Fuck kikes.
Fuck faggots.
Fuck plebbitors.
Fuck normies.
And fuck jannies.
Now go the fuck back to wherever the fuck you came from.

>>315536
Nothing you said qualifies as making fun, you're just an embarrassing retard. Le tranny boogeyman is a mark of the beast for the very specific genre of faggot that you exemplify.

>>315479
sounds like mockery to me, but maybe i still have too much hope for humanity.

>>315599
honest question, why are you so mad?

>>315599
Is the wittle baby gonna cwy???
There, There wittle baby. The scary 4chan hacker man cant hurt your feelings anymore.

>>315591
here some rope niggger

>>315430
It already has anon. Seethe some more.

>>315420
>likes of Fuentes and Greer are not only active, but verified on it.
Why are you trying to defend one set of twitter homosexuals by referencing another?

>>288893
>How does that have anything to do with the far left
you mean the wallstreet funded jewish bolsheviks 21st century rich kids like to larp as?

>>315518
>>316019
samefag tranny worshipper

>>315518
No matter how much you try you're never going to get people on this website to support your mutilated pet freaks so just stop wasting your time

>>285555
>secretly control reddit
>secretly
They only literally own it and actively censor anti-chinese discussion of any kind.

>>285869
Considering how living in china is worse than living around niggers currently, the jew is actually the lesser evil. At least the jew doesn't put you in internment camps or sweat shops. Yet.

>>286403
Normalfags flooding in from twitter and r*ddit and bringing their cesspool culture with them. Just look at this fucking board.

>>281774
>Unironically got this response from my IRL friends
>bro, we're fucking 4chan, we WILL know who's a tranny and who's not

>>315479
Found the new copypasta.

>>281905
Even if it's just men with voice changers, lel at least they seems to be pretty nice and chill guys.

>>317099
>and actively censor anti-chinese discussion
lol I wish. I'm so sick of hearing about the poor wiggers

I could believe that a handful of them could be men with voice changers, especially the ones with weirder voices like Coco, Tower or Mori but the people saying that all are men are either stupid or don't mean it. Don't they believe that women exist?

Normies are perpetually stuck about 5-10 years behind the rest of the internet while still fucking over the present.

>>282119
Strange? i think it's based

>>316324

>>317099
The anti-CCP sentiment on reddit for the past year or so has been so overwhelming that /pol/ started supporting China to own the libs.

>>287849
That doesn't make it a sexual thing. I am in love with my oshi, but I would never sexualize her.

>>297040
Okay I thought it was reaching before but holy shit you really are a projecting predator in denial. Get your sex drive in check.