/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27984411
It was my fault, I rarely watched her streams.
Sorry

I guess you could say she needs to take some Space from HoloEN

watch her stream, it's pretty obvious she didn't wanna leave

>>27984472
Wait, she streams?

It's my fault, my cock destroyed her ass and cause the backpain
sorry

>>27984411
It was Covers fault for hiring her in the first place
Council is a failure

>>27984411
>her back was hurt
Was her ass hurt as well so she couldn't sit it on a chair and push the damn stream button?

wait, I just got here. Did she seriously graduate? And based on what you said she explained fuck all? lmao

oh well, now that we have a precedent I have high hopes that Mori finally will have the guts to follow the same path

>>27984411
It's pretty straightforward if you know about her roommate's career.

>>27984635
Not now Fullgut.

>>27984588
dammit fulgar

>>27984648
>push the damn stream button
Its always funny to see people who know nothing about streaming conplain about streamers

>>27984411
Wise words, Anon.

I liked Sana. I did. But when Council debuted, I genuinely ran into a problem of juggling and supporting many of EN. I ended up slowly watching fewer and focusing on my favorites, that being Ina, Irys, and Gura and catching glimpses of the rest.

It didn't help that I seriously could not time with watching her live and I loved watching her dynamics with my oshis.

This seriously genuinely sucks and it feels surreal after Irys got her new mascots and watching Ina return to Elden Ring to this.

This fucking sucks, man.

>>27984648
>She was bedridden.
Do you English?

This. It could be so many different reasons, from disagreement with management to her back pain becoming too much of a crippling factor, to loss of motivation or whatever we don't know.

I know the catalog will be a mess for the next days so keep in mind this. We don't fucking know. It's all speculation and rrats.

>>27984411
Wow, it's so sad her back hurts so much that she had to become a full-time artist. Streaming for one hour three times a week is just too hard on the back compared to drawing 12 hours a day.

>>27984411
Let me fill you in
>Her back was injured
By me
> and she was bedridden.
With me
>She wasn't streaming much.
Sorry, she wanted to live stream her sex with me but I convinced her not to

>>27984635
I think you should blame Ina rather than Cover. Cover believed in Ina.

>>27984411
>We don't know if it was her own fault, Cover's fault, NASA's fault, my fault, your fault, whoever's fault.
Yes, avoiding blame is precisely why they don't give out that information. But if Cover won't give out information then people will come to their own conclusions and they have every right to.

>>27984788
>>She was bedridden.
>Do you English?
So is ironmouse?

>>27984472
you monster

>>27984788
It would not be difficult to set up a monitor and keyboard at an angle so you can stream while lying down. There are lots of people who work while stuck in bed.

>>27984877
Absolutely. But, even if they come to their own conclusions it's important to understand that those conclusions are 100% guesses.

>>27984411
We also know it wasn't something she wanted.
And we know it wasn't some kind of major yab, cause they're giving her the Coco treatment instead of the Rushia.

>>27984788
how can she show up on other people's streams but cant sit down to stream for an hour? is this back hort thing only applicable if she has to stream?

>>27984910
Idk if she's a good example. Love her or hate her, ironmouse seems to be weirdly sturdy mentally. Though back problems handle way different than lung-based autoimmune problems.

I don't think Cover minds them not streaming, so that's probably not the reason she got the boot but a consequence of something else. People here are talking about roommate stuff, I don't wanna go beyond what /vt/ allows but what I mean is, they definitely had a good reason to graduate her. Once the vtuber debuts, the maintenance cost is pretty damn low, and even with very few streams and some merch you can probably make a small profit. So it's usually better to keep them around even if they almost never stream.

>>27985127
She definitely requested it from Cover. They don't fire people for not streaming. Wanting it is a different story, there's a million possible reasons she couldn't stream even if she wanted to.
My guess is she's got too many other commitments and she's clearly not very successful as a streamer. If it was a medical problem she wouldn't be able to do her other job either.
>>27985227
She could be prioritizing those streams if she's limited to a few streams a week.

Even if you didn't watch sana, you should be mourning the loss of the fattest, roundest, chocolatiest titties in hololive.

>>27986130
>They don't fire people for not streaming.
They might fire people for not streaming on their Holo character but still streaming more on their roommate account.
My guess is that she was somehow put in a position where she had to choose between being Sana and keeping her RM's contract work, and wasn't going to be permitted to do both, so she picked the one that actually supports her financially.

I never watched her because her model and voice were off-putting.

>>27986549
Female Australian voices are hot as fuck.

>>27984411
>m-m-muh back
Kill yourself, she was streaming and tweeting on her other account just fine

>>27984718
There's literally a stream button to press anon. I think it's actually labeled "Go Live" on one of the more popular stream recording programs, but pedantry does you no good here.

What will they even say at her graduation stream? She didn't leave anything behind to talk about.

She wasn't streaming much since debut.

>>27986130
>They don't fire people for not streaming.
First year contract has a minimum streaming quota. Multiple JPs mentioned this. Probably didn't renew her contract so that future chuubas don't emulate her. Can't blame them, artists and riggers for council were high profile. Just the model cost a shitload of money.

Jannies are gay and deleted the other thread while I was writing a good post. Why not just made a fucking sticky then. Libertad brethren.

>>27973170
While this post is a rrat I feel like it's the one that makes the most sense out of all the ones I've seen. Or it could be something else entirely. Either way, she's an extremely successful artist and will be just fine.
Not that it will stop people from peddling rrats or jumping to their own conclusions.

>>27984489

>>27986832
Exactly this. People joke that Ayame doesn't stream anymore but that's the key difference here: ANYMORE. She used to be different and has earned her laziness.
You gotta grind before earn your stripes.
I do not feel bad for Sana.

>>27986648
Not hers.

>>27986954
whats her dayjob

Her back is fucking busted whether she has a great job with Hololive or not so why decide to graduate? This obviously wasn't her decision

>>27986648
her streaming voice was godawful though.

I am curious exactly what caused her back to break and how bad was the damage that it hasn't been getting better half year later.

>>27987150
Just genetics and disease. Nothing like a car accident or anything.

>>27986954
Yeah, that's by far the most likely rrat. Both sides seem frustrated but she is leaving on good terms (at least officially), some kind of contract dispute is pretty much the only possibly explanation.

>>27986166
this
i literally came to the board today to look for sana fap material, but instead learned that there will now be less of it

that dead dog really did do a number on her huh

>>27986466
>My guess is that she was somehow put in a position where she had to choose between being Sana and keeping her RM's contract work, and wasn't going to be permitted to do both, so she picked the one that actually supports her financially.
How much does she make as an artist that it pays more than goddamn hololive?
Ame makes enough to fund her own 3d studio just as a side project, despite regularly turning off superchats. Sana must be rolling in gacha dough.

>>27987088
contract artist

>>27987150
probably years of gremlin posture

>>27984411
What we learned is to not trust Ina and believe in nepotism.
En gen 3 better not have any nepotism in it since they can't really be trusted.
>Mori would hire someone from her circle (which is bad)
>Gura would hire one of her whore friends from amateur voice acting days.
>Ame would hire a titty streamer like her.
>Kiara would hire menhera liberal women from the lgbt community.

>>27986648
I'm Australian and her voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Could not understand half of what she was saying.

>>27984411
https://youtu.be/B7_USNaUIqM

Sanna was a real idol who didn't need any gimmicks to be investing and her collabs with Ina were legitimately the best en has ill miss the beg girl

>>27987105
>why don't people work two jobs when they're disabled, they're disabled anyway!
>>27987150
probably being hunched over a tablet 24/7
this is why kyoani does stretch exercises

>>27987341
If only you knew the gigs she does on her RM

Cover has a history of abandoning talents and Holo EN is PISSED.

>>27987150
Since she is a professional artist, probably just chronic leaning over a desk. Things like that will catch up with you sooner or later. A friend of mine works in awkward positions to do wiring as an specialized electrician and his back and neck are completely fucked in his early 30s. He's has spent a few weeks near bedridden this year despite being active and a healthy weight.

>>27987413
>I'm Australian
Gross

I'd probably be sad about her graduation if only the bitch had ever streamed

Without Sanna en livers are doomed

>>27987105
because she has another job that pays more. If you have a limited amount of time sitting around due to back pain and need to decide which job to spend more time on, you would choose the one that pays more and is also your passion (which is art for her)

>>27985365
Since she doesn't stream anyway, just make her an example. It's about sending a message.

she was a no talent, lazy nigger who didn't stream, easy as

>>27987341

she's a head artist for an extremely popular mobile gacha game

>bed ridden
>streamed on roomate account
Ru rumoa

>>27987501
I know but... how much do they pay? Is Sana secretly a multi-millionaire?

>>27987399
Gura nepotism hire would be interesting

>>27986648
This guy is right her and bea voices is pure sex.
>>27987413
whatatalkinabet

I'll ask because I don't think it's really "outing" her, but does anyone have a picture of what her roommate draws (that I totally won't reverse image search)?

>>27987605
link or rrat

>muh back problems
>meanwhile she is having a full-time other occupation
>still streams from time to time to hustle her supporters
thank you for the money and support, retard. Now pay up on the few streams i do until the 31st.

>>27984411
I think its save to assume that Kiara was talking about Sana in this clip almost a year ago now
https://youtu.be/YhKDI0c2odM?t=129

Did polka know beforehand? Did Sana propose to her? Are they having hot sweaty sex right now?

kill yourselves, tranny jannies.

Maybe she works for Team Cherry the creators of Hollow Knight, they are in Adelaide. Australia.

>>27987669
we'd get another ame or a turbo twitch thot

>>27987714
i liked sanna so i will but after shes gone im done watching hololive EN

>>27984910
She has been for most of her life and became Ironmouse partly as a way to cope. It's different when it happens mid-gig.

>>27984411
I know that's all we have. I think we just want to think as if we could have done something different to prevent this, but in the end, we're completely powerless.
We never could have protected her smile.

>>27984411
>NASA's fault

>Sana announced graduation the day we got the first Webb telescope image

Bros...?

>>27987605
>if you have health issues you literally can't do anything, there is no in-between
people aren't unironically this retarded right

>>27987809
Ames the funniest member of myth so this is great in fact fuck it she's the only funny member.

she's joining Vshojo

Such a waste of a good model, in such a lazy person with no talent to entertain. Ina even put in a good word for her. Why apply to Holo of she wanted to work on art more?

>>27987925
not before mori does

>>27987689

Literally who gives a shit she never cared so why should we

i would never watch her but is she actually retiring? what a lazy oz lmao, chicks would kill for income as easy as this

>>27987931
The model wasn't good but I did like the design

>>27984910
ironmouse is just strong not to mention she's been dealing with it longer, but if ironmouse took a break would you point to someone slightly worse and call ironmouse a pussy?
No right? so leave sanna alone back problems fucking suck. depending on how bad the pain was not being able to stream is understandable.

she will be MAMA for holoEN gen 3

>>27988008
>an artist for FGO NA promos
gross

>>27987911
I don't find her funny at all. Watch vox, guys are much funnier

>>27987931
probably miscalculated + unexpected things happening
nobody "lazy" becomes highly accomplished in any craft

>>27987598
>Sana must be rolling in gacha dough.
Do you have any idea how profitable gatchas are? If her contract promises her a percentage of proceeds, then she is probably earning quite a bit more than she makes from Hololive, especially as one of the more poorly performing streamers in addition to Hololive, government and Youtube all taking their cuts from her earnings.

>>27988032
The model actually looked alright when in motion imo. I guess the channel pic and promo art turned people off more

>>27987689

>>27988116
how do you not find tummy hort funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tga76L40THo

>>27987655
Every girl in hololive is a multi millionaire

>>27986166
>>27987303
Men of integrity

>>27988230
Yeah I can see it. I feel bad for never giving her a chance. She seemed like she would be funny, or at least like she would align with my sense of humor.

Sana was a bad hire and took up the slot that rightfully belonged to my beloved Shondo. In a perfect universe Bae had Sana's model and Shondo got Bae's model.

>>27987088
Pink Korone from Arknights, for exmaple

>obviously worst girl retires
why the fuck would she give up the precious pity bucks to come?

>>27984472
same I watched her debut and that was it really. The debuts for all the council streamers were actually really unique

I honestly feel nothing about her graduation. I don't think I watched a single one of her streams.

>>27988143
Wrong. Toriyama Waitwd till last minute for every chapter of dragonball and even submits napkin notes today. Hard work is dead concept.

>>27986763
>Push button go stream haha

Do you watch asmon or any other xqc? Just asking...

I'm so sad. When does the new hire start?

>>27984411
It was Cover's fault because her health was their responsibility

>>27984411
She played genshin tho

I don't understand why people are mad. She had the creative freedom to quit.

Hololive leldit is locked lol

>>27988627
Go back.

>>27988473
Toriyama is not lazy, he is just autistic.

>>27988672
fuck you im staying

great, now who will be the de facto brown muscle girl of hololive?

>>27988753
flare

>>27987733
everyone knew

Honestly, fuck Sana. She knew she had back issues that would hinder he even before applying. That spot could have gone to someone else.

>>27988112
It gets worse, she draws Arknights characters.

>>27984788
>bedridden
>streams genshin on her rm acc
Hmm

>>27988287
is this really actually factual?

>>27988008
Explains a lot if true.

>>27988886
I wonder if these streams are what broke the camel's back (no pun intended).

>>27987733
everyone was told but they had to figure out who was sana

So, is she going to stream almost everyday and do tons of collabs like Coco? Or will she continue to barely stream until the last day?

>>27988076
Ironmouse would also literally have nothing at all if she wasn't Ironmouse, Sana at least has a life and career outside Hololive.

>>27984668
can you explain me anon?

>I love Sana, but I want what's best for her and I want her to be happy
So what do we read into this? Could fit into the "Sana was forced to make a choice between RM activity and Holo activity and chose RM" rrat that seems increasingly likely

>>27989029
She said today that she's doing tons of streams

>>27988886
Zhang apologist then.

>>27988883
just fanart or actual offical? actually got to design an arknight character?

>>27989073
Other girls seem to be able to do RM activities and not get fucking terminated though.

>>27989204
Other girls actually streamed.

>>27989005
Probably. She was full of shit, nobody likes the person who keeps skipping work because they're "sick" and they get caught at a party

>>27988002
Despite her having close friends in that circle and their orbiters, I find it hard to believe Mori would give up her Universal Music contract and splinter from good friends she has in Hololive like Bae and Irys.

>>27989005
>get hired by company that is hated by china
>wants to play chineese gacha on company time
>gets told no for very obvious reasons that are pretty understandable concidering what happened
>plays it on off account out of spite or whatever reason
>isn't streaming on company account cause cant
wee geee no wonder they forced a choice on her and she bailed.
She'd of gotten pounced on instantlyu by the the china schizos if she tried to play genshin as sana.

when your company treats their talent well and they want to stream
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1546681710464614401

>>27989252
That's never been a problem before. If Ayame can get away with it, can't see why Sana can't either.

>>27989064
FGO/ arknights concept artist. She's already got the bag.

Will Sana even bother to have a graduation stream or do you reckon she'll just announce a date and "quietly" graduate after 20~ days of no streams.

>Cover tries to put in a diversity hire among Council

I'm honestly not surprised.

>>27989365
Nijisanji treats Pomu the girls (other than Selen) terribly.

>>27987341
She is one of the top of the top, More successful than ina

Typical black company behavior.
Only a simp would defend cover now.

>>27989457
They have the Council Ender Dragon storyline to finish up. I'd like to think I'm a fully capable adult, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to hold back tears once they've killed it, symbolizing their journey is at a physical and metaphorical end

>>27989397
Ayame goes to Cover's studio to work
She does stuff and everyone there loves her

>>27989473
an asian girl? Yeah that's very odd in a japanese company.

>>27989397
This has been said already if not here then in other threads.
Ayame put int he time and effort at the start to build up to what she has. We can say she steams little but has a fanbase and clout to bring good numbers and money when she does steam.
Sana did nothing of the sort and didn't even try to get back up after she fell. Her drawning gig worked out better for her and she just coasted on hololive. Obviously she can't get away with it when she hasn't earned it.

>>27988192
>Do you have any idea how profitable gatchas are? If her contract promises her a percentage of proceeds
Do you know how capitalism works? You don't get a cut of the profits just for being a good employee. You might get a bonus or a commission, but that's just for your own individual work. The market rate for anime art is incredibly low, because there's a million SEAniggers who grind it out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure she makes a good salary, but it's stupid to think that she's so rich from drawing anime tiddies that the hololive $$$$ meant nothing to her. This is 100% personal, not business.

>>27984489
Inaff

The one thing I'll never understand about Sana is why she never chose to pull out her SSJ art talents. She is arguably the best artist in all of Hololive and she completely kept it in her bag to never use. It'd be like if Suisei never sang, Marine only played games without engaging with chat or if Korone only did short zatsudans.

>>27989397
Ayame streamed for 2 years , Sana gave up on the 3rd month

>>27984411
>I would just like to remind you all
go fuck you nigger post you remind post on reddit

>>27989589
Thye've put so little work into minecraft overall. The boom ended right as they started. Kronii's streams for minecraft was the highlight of council to the point that bunkerronii took over the server as the big hotspot.
Them killing the ender dragon is a forced formality. There's no good build up for it because they didn't really start form scratch nor cared to go hunting it in the first place.

>>27984411
Didn't she have a crack Vertebrae?

>>27989457
30 minute stream (or prerecorded) because there is literally nothing to say about her, even from her genmates. She is leaving nothing whatsoever behind. Even Aloe had a bigger impact because there was all sorts of drama around her short career. Sana came, did literally nothing, and left. What do you even do in a graduation stream like that?

She's probably the last person who'd complain about something like this, but I just have to imagine losing out on growth potential early on and being left in the dust a year later was always a thorn in her motivation. Some of it was her incredibly niche streaming ideas like astrology and bread memes combined with stuff out of her control like the brown debuff. And then ofc doggerino happened. Always felt to me like she wasn't quite prepared for this. Maybe she decided she wasn't quite cut out for it.

>>27988494
are you saying sane is even close to those 2?
you may not like dumb zoomer humour, but lets face it, both of them are popular for a reason

sana was shit, she was the low point of hololive, and with holox and id3 they seem to have learned from their mistakes

im sad, she was fun whenever she was around

doesnt feel any different from kira going

>>27989662
Royalties motherfucker, do you know it?

It's literally the most profitable gacha on the planet. Even fucking Steam gives creators royalties for their in game purchases. There is no reason to assume FGO doesn't

>>27984411
Sorry bros it was my fault. We had extreme feral sex so much her back just kinda gave up.

Another thing we can chalk up to being Coco's fault. If she didn't fuck everything up with China then she could play genshin all she fucking wanted. Coco's influence will forever be a scar on Hololive.

>>27989563
>stream on rn
>only a simp would defend cover
You mean only a simp would believe the bs about back pain

>>27987911
weakest member in en you mean can't do tech support can't game can't even do teetee wtf is the point of her besides pandering to the people who like white girls and retards

>>27989204
It IS possible that it was the other side, not Cover, giving her an ultimatum.

>>27989867
if she was swimming in dosh she would never have joined holo and just continued what she was doing simple as

>>27988549
care to link?

>>27989953
>can't do tech support

She said she would only renew her contract if they let her do kusogemonday and they said no

>>27990095
>friend joins a company doing something that seems interesting
>offers to put in a good word for you if you're interested in trying it out
>implying you wouldn't take the opportunity to fuck around and try to make more money or do something new on the side

>>27990163
Nene should have done the same with Nkodice

Wow congrats on graduating Sana. Now you can move from the most lucrative job in the otaku industry to being paid $600 every 4 months for jpgs in obscure gacha games
Follow your dreams!

>>27990082
Considering she does work for Yostar, a Chinese company, that sounds very likely.

>>27984411
I don't care who's fault or why she is out
What matter is that she will be gone and I will be happy this bitch will not be remembered 1month after her graduation

I hope she gets better, no matter the reason for graduation

anyway, concerning the pic, before it was deleted, the post he was replying to went something like
>/vt/ is going to have a field day
thing is, the board didn't even exist in 2020..
I censored the name cause fuck you

It's my fault, I impregnated her. Sorry Anons I promise I'll make her happy.

>>27990288
>obscure

>>27989867
>There is no reason to assume FGO doesn't
ya know concidering she had double the connection to FGO, she really blew it.
Vtuber avatar designed by one of the major artists for FGO. Both her and Kronii had the ability to do something that no other gacha or franshice has, a collab into FGO.
Pako character, Wada character. yeah it's an insane 1 in a million chance to happen concidering how typemoon does not let outside collabs into fgo but she could of been that 1 in a million.

She did multiple Chinese sponsored >2 hours long streams on another YouTube account while she barely streamed on her hololive account. If you were cover, would you accept that? Probably not.

>>27990436
Oh sorry she may be getting $700 and free gems. Definitely worth it.

>>27984910
What does a vtuber faking her illness and tricking gullible people that it's worst than it really is have to do with Sana?

>>27990485
>a collab into FGO.
you're retarded

>>27990527
There are at least four JPs that do softcore porn on the side. I can't imagine doing a few streams for a chink company would be a deal breaker.

>>27989815
Kys fucking zoomer newfag

>>27990553
if you legitemately think that ironmouse is faking it you're retarded.

>>27990331
It's a rrat but it does have some real merit. Add in the fact she was streaming genshin on main account and someone speaking up was gonna happen.
I'd rrat a bit further and say this might be fallout due to kson. Out ona branch but the timinig is interesting to say the least.

I wish her the best but I couldn't care less about Sana
Sora is about to reach 1 mill
I hope this doesn't ruin the fun

>>27990554

>>27987105
Traveling around like her genmates just did on a whim just for fun would be torture, even when just occasionally for something major. Concerts and 3D in general would be torture. Really, it was only further down hill and continuing to be left in the dust from here if the Togashi rrat is true. I could definitely see why someone would consider just pulling the plug at that point.

>>27984411
>Responsibly
>/vt/
Pick one

>>27989364
she's of chink descent, would they really jump on their own ethnic diaspora?

>>27984411
>girl that took a Holo EN spot just to stream once a month
Good riddance.

>>27990617
It wouldn't be a dealbreaker on Holo's side.

>>27984411
>NASA's fault, my fault
OP confirmed for NASA agent who got Sana graduated because she found out that intelligent alien life has been trying to contact us for years but they're all Jehova's witness of Space Mormon.

>>27990690
EN problems won't touch JP. other than a few people in EN caring over Rushia being fired, like Mori, none of the JP will bat an eye at sana leaving. Likely not even aknowledge it.

>>27990687
If she was streaming on her main account then the bad back is just bullshit. Ironically she probably makes more playing Genshin than being Sana.

>Thought could juggle both jobs
>Couldn't.
Its that simple, even Ina who's entire art sttyyle is SPEED has taken a ton of time off this year.
>>27990930
I'm not saying its bullshit but there are chairs and other things you can buy to minimize back pain for drawing or streaming.

>>27990152
compared to actual management yea can't do shit

>>27990735
Sad if this is the reality, makes you wonder how Ina has fallen victim to the same physical impairments given similar careers...genetic lottery?

Ina mentions bread then starts crying, six days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gu1RLtLRQw&t=3477s

>>27984411
All I know is that she barely streamed and I don't think she ever gave a reason to it.
If it was really health problems, something so bad that she couldn't even sit her ass on a chair to stream, then this is all Covers fault for hiring her to begin with.
Unless this is due to some accident that happened after she was hired, but I highly doubt that.
What I thought was the reason before is that she was being used more as an artist, which I know can take a lot of time of your days, and she did indeed draw some merch stuff for Cover.
But still, she was gone too long to be just that.
Regardless, it's a shame cuz I loved Sana before she started neglecting streams

Nobody said it was easy
It's such a shame for us to part
Nobody said it was easy
No one ever said it would be this hard

>>27990996
>Implying EN has any management
>Disregarding literally the entirety of Kara's 3D the other day

>>27986648
not her garbled chink immigrant gobblygook blabber

>>27990827
Let us remember what how the chinks just reacted to Kson joining Vshojou. I'd beleive she'd get some massive chink hate if she tried to show something chineese related on holo channel.
The bugs do not rationalize, they only seek and destroy.

>>27991146
Kara?

>got discouraged from streaming after 2 months at it
>did not try to learn about VTube culture
>doesn’t know shit about idols
>does not try and get to know her genmates or senpais
>spends all her money/time on gachas for the thrill of pulls

I’ve loved Sana’s art for years but after her first SC stream, it was clear she had no idea what the fuck she was getting into.

it was the jab's fault

the reason is well known now but for some reason mods ban anyone talking about it.

>>27991394
I'm a retarded phone poster.

>>27991437
She thought it would be easy peasy money, so she had an idea what she thought was going to happen. Of course hindsight is always 20/20

she choose her main job and i dont blame her, she is becoming one of the tops in her field.. it still hurts a lot thjo

>b-back pain
>ran to the store for cake ingredients
>played Genshin on rm account for as long as she'd normally stream

>>27990876
Botan, Friend, and hag hawk have all sent something so far.

>>27984411
It's simple, she'd rather stay loyal to her chink overlords - they pay better than her Hololive cuck "fans". So she chose to go back doing what she was always doing anyway when she was not streaming for Hololive - drawing, tweeting and streaming chink gachashit on her roommate account instead

Good riddance to a worthless deadweight that contributed fuckall while she was there anyway. Couldn't have happened to a better person, she did so little in her time that she's the most easily disposable and nothing will change or be really missed

>>27986783
BEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG!

>>27991613
Were Sanalites mean to her or something?

>>27989685
This. The only explanation I can come up with is she was indeed a nepotism hire and she decided to be a vtuber just for fun and nothing more.

>>27991613
On top of this, it took her a month to come up with the back pain excuse. Anyone else would have brought it up immediately

>>27984411
Sana needs back surgery and will need 6-12 recovery time and Cover won't give her that time off since she hasn't done a full year of her contact. This is why Sana graduated.

>>27991584
The thing is though is art doesn’t pay. Japanese mobage pays like 500USD for illustrations, and Chinese ones pay upto 10k. Even if China mobage seek her out for work every month(they don’t), streaming makes more but she just fucking hates it. My rrat is becoming a vtuber was the first time she experienced any negative press and hate and she has bad feelings associated with it now

I wonder how the graduattion will be.
Small quiet affair? Or a big weep fest like Cocos

>muh no streams
>muh ugly art
>muh accent that esls can't understand
That's it, that's literally all the antis have against a bright and cheerful vtuber that made content no one else ever did and is leaving due to health problems. It really is funny how little /vt/trolls know about vtubers

>>27989112
Official. she has two.

>>27984411
Good riddance to her and her giant schnoz! LMAO!

>>27989685
I assume it's because, while she enjoys drawing and does it for a living, she probably doesn't want to do it for TWO jobs. Ina loves drawing at a hobby, but I didn't get that vibe from Sana. She seems like her relationship with drawing had become purely work.

>>27984411
>Still believe the 'back hurt' excuse
Neither Sana nor Cover cited health reasons, for the graduation. Two holostars have graduated due to legitimate health problems and both Cover and the talents were upfront about it.

>>27991963
Then she'll say just that instead of keeping it deliberately vague.

>>27989685
contractually obligated to not encroach ina's turf

>Sana graduating before she could rip a monumental super-brap that creates a new star cluster for us all to admire
It's not fair, bros

>>27992032
ogey

>Joins Council
>Barely streams
>Graduates
There really wasn't ANY better choice to hire for council than Sana?

>>27992092
Cover offically cited that it was Sana's request to graduate.
So yeah, she chose loyalty to the CCP.

>>27992019
she isnt an illustrator she is a character designer

>>27991008
Could be from an accident too you know

>>27992099
Tako's would go full zealot if she tried to overpower Ina.

>>27992173
that's mori's thing

I have not seen one great, memorable Sana clip or funny line or meme or anything. Is there anything of value that came out of this?

streaming 2 hard just quit lolz

>>27988393
>Pink Korone
Excuse me Anon?
Did she make this “Pink Korone?”
Pic pls I beg

This is the problem with non-disclosure agreements. If shady shit happened behind the scenes, she's not even allowed to say why. I wonder if Cover's NDA policy violates western whistle-blower laws.

>>27988886
She's steamed 3 times over two months as her RM fuck off with this rrat

>>27984411
GURA ALLUDED TO THIS ON HER RECENT STREAM
THE STREAMER CULTURE OF BEING FORCED BY XAVIER (COVER) TO DO NOTHING BUT MAKE MORE AND MORE CONTENT
JUST TO STAY RELEVANT
JUST TO MATTER IN SOME ARBITRARY RANKING METRIC
IS VERY TOXIC
THIS WAS GURA'S WAY OF TELLING US WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO SANA
AND WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT IT
SHE WON'T PUBLICLY DENOUNCE HER OWN COMPANY, SHE'S WAY TOO MUCH OF A PROFESSIONAL
BUT BELIEVE IN THE GOOBSTER WHO KNOWS HOW TO GET THIS KIND OF SHIT PAST THE RADAR

Why did they bother to do merch for her? Do they know that a large percentage won't cancel their merch orders or ask for refunds, so it makes it worth it?

Reminder that the laziest one being cut doesn't mean the rest of council aren't lazy and bland streamers! They aren't "finally watchable" or "good" now!

>>27984411
Her dog is also still dead

>>27992032
First one is true no matter you seethe about it.

>>27992346
They expire so expect an answer if it actually was something bad. I'm betting it's not.

>>27992380
So are batman's parents.

>>27986166
Bro the amount of art of Sana and Kronii pressing their fat milk and white chocolate tits against each other will be virtually none now
Very sad

>>27992363
Yeah, kind of fucked to expect your content creators to make content

>the only vtuber in hololive I was slighty interested in is the first to graduate.
This is...

>>27992221
She didn’t design the Chinese characters she’s currently shilling

>>27992032
She also ruined every collab she was ever in, but yeah those 3 are also true

>>27984411
We certainly know health wasn't the damn problem, else she would have gotten this wording instead

>>27992346
>I wonder if Cover's NDA policy violates western whistle-blower laws.
Highly unlikely. NDA's are a massive thing across the board. Every corp has NDA to protect themselves and others. Violating NDA is going to have massive backlash no matter what the company.

>>27992303
Because Sana wasn't really funny. There was the Fauna feet thing and the bread stuff, but none of it was really as clippable or funny as even some of the weaker Myth stuff.

She rarely streamed so who cares?
Most of council should just straight up graduate at this point and bring in EN3.

>>27992363
so is gura retarded or a genius or both

>>27991901
>it took her a month to come up with the back pain excuse.
It took two AND she told Council NOT to tell anyone she was basically out of commission

>>27992303
There's that clip where she told people mad at her to fuck themselves.
I guess in retrospect its not that funny.

>>27992639
>t. Didn't watch Sana

>>27992199
Sana was just there to freeload. Cover asked her to get serious about being a VTuber if she wanted her contract renewed, Sana declined.

>>27992709
To be fair, barely anyone did

>>27992099
But why? Airani exists and Ina even collabed with her a few times specifically for art. Even Marine draws every now and then. Even if she couldn't make it her main thing she can still do it at times.
>>27992248
It seems Ina and Sana are good friends if the first collab is anything to go by. Don't think takos are zealous enough to do that.

>>27992490
Can you be interested in Kronii next

Obviously everyone's right about the failed contract negotiation and the reasons for it but the one thing I don't see anyone mentioning is will she still be partnered with Hololive behind-the-scenes. Like as an artist.

I mean, the one she's fucking over the most here is Pako and she probably doesn't feel the least bad about that.

>>27986648
Objectively incorrect but that’s okay
The model had great porn potential, fitting since it looked like a hentai character

>>27989889
Go home zhang

>>27992821
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1546642818080182272
>wish YOU ALL the best.
She's next. She isn't wishing Sana "all the best" she's wishing "you all" the best.

Man, she really loved that dog, huh

>>27992861
Pako is literally her favorite artist because he drew loli jap hitler for FGO

>>27992330
Her name is Goldenglow and she's actually a cat
She also made a jellyfish bishie boy called Mizuki

>>27984588
I don't think you're sorry, anon :(

>people haven't found a way to blame Mori yet

>>27992821
kek

>>27993049
>Sana does RM stream. Gets fired
>Mori does RM stream. Doesn't get fired
wtf

>>27992303
True. She’s a nice girl and all, but she really was never that interesting or funny. She gave it a year. She never really caught on all that much. Good for her for realizing her time is better spent with her art.

>>27989397
Ayame is literally a trillion times cuter than Sana.

>>27993049
She's too dead from texas heat to do her daily yab.

>>27992303
Her imitating fauna is the only thing I've seen

>>27984910
Ironmouse's bedriddeness isn't because of her back, there's different positions and levels of ability in play here.

>>27992365
She / they probably decided around a month ago or less? I assume all the sadpostings from Council girls 2 weeks ago was because of this graduation, so it's possible that they made the decision after Sana's birthday. Maybe Sana looked at her birthday's stream's number and decided "Yeah, I thought it was fun, but this isn't worth all the physical and mental stress anymore"

>>27992363
ogay.

She's graduating because she got yago pregenent and doesn't want to pay child support.
As is custom for her peopel

>>27990095
there is never ever to much money, ever
its all about the islands in the pacific and amount of doors being rich opens
its like a game when you pass certain level you unlock insane life boosters

>>27984865
>ina
damn did i miss some bigass lore the fuck?

>>27992821
No. Sana was really one of her kind, both because of the discrepancy between her BIGSEXYCARAMELBODY but her goofy nature, and the fact that she was permanently under the 'brown-debuff'. That made for an 'interesting' combination to witness.
The other thing that sold me was the coincidence that she was the best friend of the only other hololive girl with a design that I like before.

I didn't really click with the other girls and considering how the vtuber scene is evolving on the EN side I doubt I'll get interested in any new one. I was already not watching that much anymore what happened in that sphere but with both Kizuna and Sana out of the window and the recent Vshojo 'contracts' I might completely opt out of watching vtubing content. And the feed always gets polluted by people like Shilily and all the new -mommy-milkies- trend girls when you start putting Vtuber in any search bar, it's just annoying to have to filter most of the results.

>>27993307
stress from what she barely even streamed

>>27984489

>>27992363
>gura
>forced
>bitch barely streams
>minimum effort snice her debut
ogey

>>27993307
Imagine finally having all the girls together and having to deal with the one friend that didn't show up announcing that they're quitting.

>>27992365
probably didn't expect her to not renew her contract. I can understand the JP headquarter management having no idea whats going on with the ENs, so this is all on the EN managements fuckheads

>>27986166
>fattest, roundest, chocolatiest titties in hololive.
I dunno man, there is still a good pair of fat, round, chocolate titties in Hololive.

>>27993496
ina and sana are irl friends

>>27992363
>you are expected to follow your contract in the work that makes you lots of cash without any muscle work
oh no... thats so bad

>>27986763
Hey Anon, download OBS right now and boot up your favourite game, then press "go live". Tell me how long you stream before you wanna stop. Doesn't matter if you're 0 viewz or not, just go ahead and try it.
Then imagine doing it with a fucked up back. As a job.

>>27986166
Imagine getting smothered by those things, God damn

>>27992363
ironically gura probably has so much pull at the contract negotiation table she could just literally ask for whatever the fuck she wants, but she still streams regularly. Makes you think hmmmm

>>27993496
Sana is Ina's best friend irl.
Omega is also Ina's irl friend.
I hope Cover learned their lesson and will stay the fuck away from anyone she recommends in the future.

>>27993703
She has no problems streaming as her roommate so the back excuse means nothing

>>27993592
Can we not? Flare specifically stated that she was not brown, she hates it.

>>27992365
If you want to interpret the company in a positive light, they probably wanted to do right by the Sanallites. No matter what you think of the talent, she does/did have legitimate fans who do/did want to have merch. Also, company gets money. Win-win.

>>27992380
can I get a lowdown on what happened to spacedog?

>>27984411
wow they will never hire another nigger
FLARE WON
SANA LOST
AHAHHAHAHAHAH

>>27993829
He's dead

I told my sister about sana the night she killed her self. She said i was a fagot and couldn't stand being related to someone who cries over a png.

>>27992346
You retards always intentionally misunderstand NDA's. Nobody is "not even allowed" to say whatever the fuck they want. They just aren't allowed to say what they want and be entitled to the money they want. You just refuse to accept that all those people picked money over public awareness. I'm a fucking nobody and even I've signed an NDA to get money before, I just never think about it because I keep the different parts of my life separate and that part is over. Was there shady shit in my case? Of course there was. Is anything going to be better if everyone else knows about it? No. Though in the case of this thing with Sana, everyone who cares does know about it since it's all public anyway. We see the shady shit she did.

Don't worry frens. Sana is graduating because she's pregnant with my child and we're getting married next week.

>>27993810
pfft really?

>>27993733
>Omega is also Ina's irl friend.
really?
Anyway, fuck that guy, he spend more time trying to correct how to pronounce holox than building IRyS career

>>27993859
Good thing she killed herself, she's retarded.

>>27986817
Retard, she streamed constantly before the dog incident. She even did an 8 hour member stream

>>27984411
Press F to say ITS OVER

who?

>>27993810
>not brown, she hates it.
Are you daft? She stated she's not a Dark-Elf. Ya know, the historically villainous race in most fiction. She has never had a problem with her skin tone, just people associating her with a race that she is not.

>>27993733
How is Omega connected to Ina?

Wait, so with the timing here, does this mean Sana graduates and Pako becomes Irys' new designer? Did Irys push for Sana to graduate and her to join Council?

>>27994108
Delusions

>>27994158
>Pako becomes Irys' new designer
From where are people getting this rrat?

>>27994108
You can read it in the archives but it's something to do with him originally being her chat moderator or whatever which spun out to him being her boyfriend and pulling strings for her.

>>27993507
she ran into the ayame/shion problem. When you a long uncoordinated hiatus from streaming, the stress from expectations to stream eventually can be overwhelming and feed into the vicious cycle of putting off streaming time and time again only to live with the growing stress of those expectations which feeds into further decreased desire to stream. I'm going to say EN management fucked the dog on this one by obviously giving up on her and not giving her the counsel she needed

>>27994158
Why would IRyS do this???

>>27994217
Irys has refused all new outfits and is getting a new design because she hates Redjuice and Pako is a huge Irysimp. It would work perfectly for everyone. Which is why it's probably not happening.

>>27992925
>nice translation anon

>>27994158
take your meds

>>27988971
If you looked at their income as a whole then yes, they've probably earned at least a million. But, you have to remember, these are women. They're spending habits are not financially sustainable.

>>27984411
I knew a guy online once who had his back fucked up in a work accident and was paralysed for a while
Slowly worked his way back to moving but still had random pains and numbness and all sorts of chronic problems
Then he had bad news from one of his regular appointments where they'd take spinal fluid etc
Then he disappeared a month later, never heard from him again

Have fun with rrats but bad injuries suck man

>>27993853
of natural causes? Or neglect?

>>27994158

pwese gontinyuu

>>27988841
Everyone else in Council is normalfag reddit tier, so I doubt it would've been anyone good

>>27994232
Wasn't that for Ame?

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>>27991102
YOu do know heath problem can develop right, You think Marine started out right this ???

>>27993507
The girls do egosa, anon. It isn't easy seeing yourself being mocked and shat on for your amount of subs, or viewers, or stream frequency, or your beloved dead dog and your back pain.

>>27994395
Sana's manager Old Yeller'd him to as a warning to her if she didn't stream at least once every 2 months.

>>27994260
It probably doesn't help her friends gave up on her. When you hear the countless stories of Holos who wanted to graduate at this stage in their career and didn't, they were all pulled back in by other Holos. Besides Council being so disconnected and full of non-streamers on its own, her best friend who brought her into the company also hates streaming. There's no Subaru-type to cheer her up and bring her back.

>>27994426
Yeah but now Nijiturds can say their HoloEN has more graduations than NijiEN.

>>27994426
She probably took the spot of one of the Nijisanji EN girls.

>>27994382
i was that dude, and i died.
Right after my sister told me about her favorite v-tuber, i couldn't stand being related to png enjoyer so i ended my self.

>>27994435
Die fucking nigger

new vshojo soon?

>>27984411
Is It fucking Chinks again?

>>27994375
Ina makes enough money from her real job and leeching off her family that she doesn't even touch Holo money.

>>27993703
Ironmouse did it for a month

>>27994313
>IRyS gets new better papa
>Council all gets costumes and 3D
>Sana has to watch from across the other side of the universe at what she gave up on.
Wouldn't that be amazing if it happened.

>>27994616

Hope this motivate Council to be better.
Hopefully

It seems her dog orbited a little too closely and crashed into her back, injuring her and killing him.

Sucks because just like we can't have another dragon character because of Coco, we're not going to get another big booby black girl. Imagine if Cover revealed an upcoming Hololive member as a dragon or black girl with big boobs, antis and shitposters would have a field day saying Cover is trying to replace Coco and Sana. Their debut chats would be a disaster.

>>27993703
I've been doing it for going on 2 years, nearly five days a week for around two hours each day.
Low views
Pretty rough on the voice
Some days are rough because i do get a low back pain every now and then and sometimes the voice doesn't cooperate. Sometimes i'm also a bit tired from work.
Some days i do want to quit, but if i did then i know i would never play vidya again. So i keep at it.

>>27993703
Everything is hard, its just some shit is harder then other things. so before you go off with your "streaming is hard work too!" bullshit,
tell me how she is going to fair at her wallmart job with her bad back.

>>27994760
Rest of council has been doing fine. It's not blowout amazing as many would hope but everyone else has been putting in far more effort. Yes there's some lazyness but it's lightyears differance from sana's

I'd settle with Irys officially joining Council so they can have full on 5 girl Council collabs like Myth did. Without Sana Council has been cucked by not having the girls together every month or so to just have fun.

>>27994802
nor we get another succuslut

>>27987501
>>27987598
If she had so much money, why did she enter Hololive? where obviously you will have to sing, move and travel,she sound like a shitty person for having wasted a job like that

>>27994580
And I do remember Ina saying her dad wanted to help her get into stocks but she's the outlier. I bet nearly all the JPs blow a substantial amount of money every week on gatcha. Kiara said she doesn't have a mil, Rushia spent her money as fast as she was given it, Suisei's credit card declined, and there's probably more examples I don't know about.

>>27994969
>Kiara said she doesn't have a mil
>Goes to travel/vacation alot
>Probably buying expensive shit like souvenir's
>Buying Land (which is fucking smart)
>And more Travel

Sana who? oh that fat brown one no one watches who never streams lol

>>27994969
credit card decline doesn't mean much. In japan they have weekly limits of around 10k US on credit cards and then it start auto declining. You buy a couch and the whale on gatcha for 5k because you make a million a year and your card declines. If anything it should show that she's rich.

>>27995143
what she streams?

>>27994899
She's like 2 months before council launch. Having her join a month after Sana leaves would put match up well. She's been counted unoffical as council and grouped with them offical a few times the previous year.
Leaving her alone when there's a spot to fill that she'd slot in nicely would be a wasted oppertunity.

>>27988971
>>27988287
>>27994375
At the very least, Kiara said very recently (within the last 2 months, I don't remember the exact date) that "None of us (Myth) is millionaire". Going by that, at least, Kiara isn't one yet and at worst, well, none of them is.

>>27995185
no she doesn't, I watch all of Council and am membered to 3 of them. Sana never streams.

>>27993718
She can ask for anything except for a new rigger

>>27995120
She also bought the meme land for some titles (which isn't smart), though...

>>27988971
Surely not. Yea, they make serious bank to be able to do this full time, but between youtube, cover, and their respective governments taking a cut, "MULTI" million is a stretch a contortionist would be jealous of.
Consider that most full time streamers live comfortably, but have ads and sponsors plastered all over their shit, meanwhile a sponsored holo stream is only every so often.

>>27994899
this is good lore and irys is great, odds are good they'll spin it like this. Irys will carry on the great hope of the universe

>>27995242
Noel fucking bought like two houses and spends thousands of ultra expensive audio equipment like if she were buying candy at the konbini.
My ass they don't have a million minimum saved up.

>>27992671
>Gura is a retarded genius
This has literally been her entire character from the very start.

>>27992592
kira's case was 100% because of his health but that doesn't mean sana's wasn't influenced by her condition

Sana's Graduation video can't even break 300k views

>>27993703
>Hey Anon, download OBS right now and boot up your favourite game, then press "go live".
There is nothing amazing about doing that. The problem is having a second job that also fucks your back.

>>27984411
>hire streamer to work for your streamer company
>they don't stream
Why the would you not fire them?
>inb4 ayame
She should get the boot, too.

There will be clips of Sana's graduation with more views than her actual graduation lmao

>>27995483
It'll be funny when people try to pretend it was due to her health after this month where she's suddenly streaming as often as she should have been all this time.

>>27995486
it's been less than 6 hours chill, review the numbers tomorrow when people get off work and have had a chance to see the BIG sad news

>>27995564
You don't fire them due to bad PR and morale among your others. You have to work hard to isolate and convince them it's their choice first and then you can decide internally they quit. Ayame doesn't get the boot because they don't pay her as a streamer anymore, her appearances are generally in official content. Something Sana doesn't do and if she did it would be as an artist which does not require her to be an employee.

So I guess Sana graduate because her RM got more stable job and become busy now?

>>27994899
Not a bad idea, her lore already has her lord over the concept of "hope" which while I don't think it really fits with the other concepts of council but whatever, they never take their lore shit that seriously anyways.

>>27994820
I'm sure she is much happier and fulfilled at her "Walmart" job.

>>27995717
Or her back condition worsened and she couldn't afford to juggle two jobs at once anymore. Decided to stick with her artist job since it's less stressful and, since Sana isn't really massively popular per se, probably make just as much money

>>27995717
Maybe she got offers from Mihoyo and they asked leaving Hololive as a requirement for employment.

Busy with too much other work. Can't fully commit to being a vtuber who regulary puts out content for Cover. So both sides decided that its in everyones best interest to part ways.
Seems pretty obvious to me.
The injury just helped everyone make that clear.

She's earned so much from her day job that she built a house years ago way before Holo existed. So many of you have no idea how much contract artists can make these days.

>>27995427
You think Noel's main income is from Hololive?

>>27995594
just saying it's a possibility anon. people meme on the creator of HxH a lot because he suffers from chronic back pain and the guy really took 3~4 years to rest

>>27988008
dang she's good, i'm looking through her archive rn and she's only got like 2 drawing streams, what the heck

>>27996335
Not like she could do that when doing art for big games.

>>27994969
mori fucked up her taxes for years and cries when people call her a millionaire.

>>27996637
Because that means she'll have to put effort into her music when she finally has money behind it.

>>27984411
Is she the first holomem graduate by herself?

>>27984411
is it because the SEA penguin gonna pass her?

>>27997546
Coco?

who cares, i want her to graduate and it happened, now just need to wait for the long awaited callikek graduation.

>>27991815
Someone post that superchat from Sana's dog.

>>27997799
No one cares what you want, fag.

>>27995997
the reason why she isn't popular is because she doesn't stream

>>27995358
Anon that costs like $40.

>>27993497
> Sana was really one of her kind, both because of the discrepancy between her BIGSEXYCARAMELBODY but her goofy nature, and the fact that she was permanently under the 'brown-debuff'.
Just Flare who never streams.